Zat (Stargate) Vs Blaster Rifle (Star Wars)

Zat (Stargate) Vs Blaster Rifle (Star Wars)

Another match taking a little twist. For this match, which weapon has the better performance? And in the hands of a n expert, which one would could produce the most damage?

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48 Comments on "Zat (Stargate) Vs Blaster Rifle (Star Wars)"

  1. L-W May 3, 2009 at 3:28 am -      #1

    I cannot quantify a fair comparison on the Zat since my knowledge is limited to the fact that it is a three phase plasma weapon (First shot stuns, second kills and the third disintegrates) considered weaker than Goa’uld Staff weapons.

    The E-11 blaster on the other hand is a light (Weighing half that of an M16) and compact rifle, with an ammo capacity of five hundred shots and an effective range of 300 meters; which comes equipped with an extendable stock, a targeting sensor, a quick-detach sight rail with a thermal imaging and 2x optical scope and a hip mounted attachment for prone and waist level firing.

    It has three available power modes (Stun, kill and “Explosive”) and an automatic and semi-auto fire setting; on average a Blaster is capable of literally frying an Organism from the inside out (Look at Greedo as an example) or blowing torso sized chunks out of duracrete. At higher outputs it can destroy durasteel prison walls, blast doors or even cause metals in the nearby environment to spontaneously combust.

    – – –

    Me personally? I find the design of the E-11 Blaster to be more “familiar” in contrast to modern Carbines, plus it appears to be far less cumbersome than the sheer awkwardness of the Zat.

    I really cannot put a quantifiable value on respective firepower levels until I hear from someone who is far more versed in Goa’uld technology, but for comfort and familiarity alone I have to stick with the Blaster for now.

  2. Space marine May 3, 2009 at 8:29 am -      #2

    *Looks at zat*

    WTF?

  3. Albert Wikowonkavitz May 3, 2009 at 2:47 pm -      #3

    (throws guns at each other)
    (guns drop on the floor, and one shoots off)
    (jumps up)
    Yikes!

    …well now…

    :P

  4. Who? May 3, 2009 at 3:13 pm -      #4

    (takes hat off in remembrance of Greedo) I miss that smelly bastard…

  5. Locutus May 3, 2009 at 4:10 pm -      #5

    I don’t know if the Zat can disintigrate or not. I read that the producers took that feature out of the canon or something like that.

    “on average a Blaster is capable of literally frying an Organism from the inside out (Look at Greedo as an example) or blowing torso sized chunks out of duracrete.”

    Solo’s blaster did this, not the E-11.

    We get a good idea what a direct hit from an E-11 can do to an unarmored person in RotJ. Go to 6:13 (also see Solo take advantage of the situation at 6:18….)

  6. Baron Somebody May 3, 2009 at 4:18 pm -      #6

    That Zat just looks totally stupid, I mean come on who would use that?

  7. Who? May 3, 2009 at 5:03 pm -      #7

    “We get a good idea what a direct hit from an E-11 can do to an unarmored person in RotJ. Go to 6:13″

    That wasn’t a direct hit, just grazed her shoulder garment. Otherwise, her arm would be vaporized. Or if her arm were to survive, it would still probably have to be amputated. The bolt did impact the wall behind her though, which caused that explosion.

  8. Locutus May 3, 2009 at 6:42 pm -      #8

    “That wasn’t a direct hit, just grazed her shoulder garment. Otherwise, her arm would be vaporized.”

    It did not graze anything.

    img4.imageshack.us/img4/1174/121lsrhit.jpg

  9. Cpt Olimar May 3, 2009 at 7:01 pm -      #9

    Isn’t that the scene where the star wars fanboys get angry about? Well make that the entire endor part lol.

  10. Who? May 3, 2009 at 7:57 pm -      #10

    “It did not graze anything.”

    It didn’t hit her shoulder directly, it grazes past her shoulder, hits the wall behind her, and causes a spark that ignites her sleeve. Considering the fact that these weapons blasted off chunks of the durasteel walls in Cloud City, to even think that Leia took a direct hit from an E-11is ludicrous. And it clearly doesn’t. But L-W will correct us both soon enough…

    Ha ha! Make that the Sail Barge scene too Captain…

  11. L-W May 3, 2009 at 9:54 pm -      #11

    “Solo’s blaster did this, not the E-11.”

    I’m aware of *that*, but the disparity between each blaster is insignificant only in that the DL-44 utilizes armour piercing bolts with a limited accuracy over greater ranges.

    But this has been covered. Real-life soldiers are trained to fight large numbers of enemies, hence they try to conserve ammo by default unless there is some particular reason to do otherwise. Therefore, stormtroopers would logically use the lowest setting on their blasters that can still reliably kill someone, so they can get more shots out of an ammo pack.

    Criminals, on the other hand, generally don’t get into the kind of combat that soldiers do, and they’ll prefer something that has a lot of stopping power and dick-waving appeal. Han, by default, loves to wave his dick about.

    As for the E-11, the power of this gun is nearly as difficult to quantify as its range, but we’ve seen that it has much more knock-down power than a modern SMG or even a carbine. It can heat stormtrooper chest-plate armour to red-hot, it can blast grapefruit-sized chunks out of the Bespin walls and small pockmarks out of Death Star bulkheads, and it can even kill a man with the explosive shockwave from a near-miss.

    This latter capability indicates high-velocity fragmentation from the explosive power of the impact, and it was demonstrated twice in ANH: once during the Death Star detention centre break-in, when an officer was killed by a hit to the wall behind him, and once during the “Tarzan scene”, when Leia fired at a stormtrooper on the upper level, hit the wall directly behind his head, and killed him with the resulting shrapnel (it must have pierced the large flexible rubber section just beneath the back of his helmet).

    However, it can’t penetrate the armour of Death Star blast doors or the forcefields used in Death Star garbage compactors. The explosive power of a blaster rifle shot may explain the utility of stormtrooper armour; like modern infantry body armour, it protects against shrapnel and glancing hits (unless they happen to hit a flexible joint area), but it can’t stop a direct hit.

    i139.photobucket.com/albums/q311/Lew88/armorhole4vi.jpg

    But just looking at that poor Trooper, there’s a fist sized (Glowing) hole directly through the chest-plate of military-grade Phase II-III armour. The material of which it is constructed is designed to withstand and dissipate inordinate levels of heat, yet it explodes violently (It often produces a two meter diameter flash of molten material) upon Blaster impacts.

    – – –

    “It didn’t hit her shoulder directly, it grazes past her shoulder, hits the wall behind her, and causes a spark that ignites her sleeve. Considering the fact that these weapons blasted off chunks of the durasteel walls in Cloud City, to even think that Leia took a direct hit from an E-11is ludicrous. And it clearly doesn’t. But L-W will correct us both soon enough…”

    Considering that mere moments earlier in the same scene, a blaster bolt literally guts the inside of a tree, it would either mean that:

    A) Leia has a cyborg arm secretly hidden under a layer of syntheflesh.
    B) It struck the Bunker wall, causing a spark that incinerated her clothing.

    An energy weapon requires certain conditions to be met in order to be explosive, one of them being a very rapid input of energy in a very small period of time. An energy bolt won’t necessarily blow someone apart (at least not very violently).

    But we see what blasters do in ROTS to organics, the Jedi aren’t armoured, and they’re leaving large, charred holes in the body. Ki-Adi-Mundi even appears to have a bolt shot entirely through his torso (frame by frame revealed to me that there is a charred hole in front and back) so it seems that blasters can inflict kills by severe and instantaneous thermal transferal with minimal explosive effects or by creating a tremendous explosive effect as well, or both.

    I should note that in the TESB novelization a Wampa is incinerated by the Probe droids blaster weapon set to maximum power, and WEG always mentioned maximum settings “vaporizing” any material upon contact.

    – – –

    The way I’ve analyzed the output controls (through the WEG) on an E-11 described the selector switch on a real Sterling SMG performs the same function on the E-11: Safe, semi, and full-auto. Some versions of the E-11 can fire a two-round burst in semi if you depress the trigger further, which explains the occasional double-tap in the OT shoot outs. The power settings are another switch that is a little less ergonomic because you can’t put it right there like the safety selector without getting in the way and you wouldn’t change settings often anyway.

    A simple stun, kill (unarmored personnel), kill (armored personnel), and “fuck-shit-up” series of settings on a switch would be sufficient. And we know blasters drain power packs faster on the higher settings and likewise experience cooling problems when firing fully-automatic, so it would make sense to only use as much power as necessary to conserve ammo and avoid damage to the firearm in question. We also have canon statements that E-11 blasters can be set to vaporize objects as large as a humanoid corpse (In “Tales of the New Republic”, the Wolfman vaporizes the corpse of that woman he met in the cantina so the Imperials won’t find it).

    – – –

    But blasters of all kinds have demonstrated remarkable energy outputs and the varying effects upon organisms.

    1) Blasting through two to one inch thick Droid armour.
    2) Gutting an armoured apartment sized Sandcrawler.
    3) Destroying torso sized holes in Duracrete.
    4) Pocketing holes in durasteel walls.
    5) Han Solo at “Star’s End” has the burning, which is a blaster set on low power used to burn the flesh off of a body until only bone remained (usually starting with the legs and then to other limbs) as a form of torture.
    6) The novel also had a number of instances where blaster fire was set to “needle beam” for very precise (small holes), such as when Rekkon was killed.
    7) The “Tales from Jabba’s Palace” had a blaster whose mode was changed from “explosive bursts” to a “cutting beam” and then proceeded to cut through a Krayt Dragon’s armoured hide to reach the stomach and retrieved jewels (Which included vaporizing the flesh as well as cutting).
    8) “Shatterpoint” and The ROTS novel both mention steam explosions from “Deep tissue hits” burning/boiling the flesh. And causing explosive (mechanical) wounds (such as the removal of limbs).
    9) Medstar has blasters blowing legs off, but the wound is left cauterized.
    10) “Betrayal” has heavy blaster rifle blowing away part of the head and some of the upper chest of a man (And putting a torso sized hole in the wall behind him), as well as another shot putting a “dinner plate sized” hole through a woman’s torso.
    11) “Tyrant’s Test” had a blaster bolt making a blackened crater in the “upper third” of a human body.
    12) “Krytos Trap” has blaster fire that would have vaporized Corran Horn’s “heart and lungs” and reduced them to ashes if he’d not ducked – E-11 carbines were used there.

    – – –

    If you thought there was only one setting to the E-11 Blaster, you were wrong. They blow open doors with those guns, they blow huge chunks of concrete out with those guns, and they put tiny holes in rebel shirts with the same firearm. Sounds like power settings to me.

    If Leia was hit in the arm by that bolt, it would be causing a lot more agony than she let on, since the bone and muscle in her shoulder would most likely be vaporized upon contact rather than slightly singed.

  12. Who? May 3, 2009 at 10:23 pm -      #12

    I only hope that your post spreads some light for certain individuals L-W…

  13. L-W May 3, 2009 at 11:03 pm -      #13

    Well what is certainly interesting to know is that to vaporize and desiccate the heart muscle requires continuous incineration at 1150°C over the course of two hours, the heart being the densest muscle often means that the Crematoria often has to pump up the juice to get rid of it entirely.

    Whereas a single Blaster bolt can do the same over the course of milliseconds, so it certainly puts the thermal output of the firearm in perspective.

  14. Space marine May 4, 2009 at 3:53 am -      #14

    Heh, Storm troopers…Always fun guys to be around…Until An ASS namely Luke Skywalker comes along and blows a hole through your buddies chest when he didn’t even do anything!

  15. L-W May 4, 2009 at 4:33 am -      #15

    “Isn’t that the scene where the star wars fanboys get angry about? Well make that the entire endor part lol.”

    Endor doesn’t annoy me, it was the aftermath that just struck me as ridiculous.

    Even as a seven year old child with a barely coherent grasp of military politics, I could tell you (And I did – I nagged my parents about the ending for a week) that an Empire composed of millions of worlds, trillions of troops and countless powerful starships (Each one capable of ending all life on a planet within the hour) doesn’t just disappear overnight due to a single military defeat that cost them barely a single percentile of their total galactic strength (In fact only 0.04% of the fleet was lost at the battle).

    What happened to the all the ambitious Admirals? The power hungry Grand Moff’s looking to take the reigns of the greatest military Juggernaut in the galaxy? Did the next person in command just decide that the staggering loss was too great to recover from? Was there a general consensus that without the Death Star the Empire couldn’t function?

    Sure, Vader and the Emperor were both blown up, but that wouldn’t destroy the Empire any more than blowing up the Pentagon would dissolve the USA. What it does do is create a horrific power vacuum, in an empire with fleets of Star Destroyers and trillions of pissed-off troops roving around the galaxy (even more pissed off if the payroll office and all of their checks were in the Death Star).

    Soon these power-hungry military officers would no doubt form factions and destroy entire planets in their brutal attempts to seize power. Eventually Palpatine would simply be replaced by a new Emperor, possibly even one competent enough to devise a plan that can’t be foiled by developmentally stunted bears throwing rocks.

    Sure, the Death Star was taken out, but that didn’t exactly stop them last time. Not to mention that by the time they reach phase twenty-six of their patented “Let’s just throw Death Stars at the problem until it goes away” strategy, someone’s probably going to decide that maybe the ship doesn’t really need an unguarded, torpedo-shaped hole on the outside, thus allowing the Empire to swiftly conquer the entire universe.

    Guess what bub, there was an Empire *long* before the construction and after the defeat of the Death Star, and it was running smoothly enough without an oversized Orb with a laser that would have been suited to a smaller vessel.

    – – –

    Lest to say it was a few years before I picked up the Star Wars literature and discovered that it took nearly a century of continuous fighting for the Empire to finally fall into decline; but before that I was one perturbed child, even at the age of seven I had declared myself to be “Nowhere near as retarded as Lucas”.

  16. Matapiojo May 4, 2009 at 9:20 am -      #16

    Much like L-W, I don’t know the true specs of the Zat. What I have been able to determine from the shows is that this light and compact weapon utilizes a form of electromagnetic energy to shoot bolts that have a cumulative effect.

    The weapon is often used to either power or short out electric equipment, and can relay its power through conductive materials.

    The most notorios power of the weapon is to produce three separate desired effects depending of the number of shots fired in quick succesion.

    The first shot will stun, debilitate, and render victims unconscious. Note that some victims have died from a single shot.

    The second shot was always deadly to the target.

    A third shot would completely disintegrate the target, leaving no trace behind.
    —————————————————————————–
    I have no idea what the science is behind this weapon. That is probably because it was a plot solution the producers/director came up with just to explain or cut corners on certain episodes. They just couln’t undo what they had done.

    I would say that both weapons are incredibly versatile and powerful (if in different spectrums). That said, the mere fact that the zat disintegrates matter as well as being incredibly compact for more covert operations I would say that it gives this weapon the advantage in my opinion.

  17. AlphaCommando May 4, 2009 at 5:50 pm -      #17

    Actually; they decanonized the disintegration feature as of season 3, mainly because the producers felt it was a silly feature that they regretted putting in for a one-time plot point.

    This makes the Zat less powerful than the Blaster, that feature was the Zat’s one saving grace but since its decanonized I will give this to the E-11…

    I had to go back and watch my season DVDs and do some backchecks to confirm that, that’s why I delayed.

  18. L-W May 4, 2009 at 10:21 pm -      #18

    Plus the Zat really doesn’t look that threatening, which whilst being an effective aesthetic attribute for attending antique auctions and a child’s birthday party; if I were to stick the Blaster to someone’s head, I can expect them to be somewhat more serious about the potential possibility of their instant demise.

    Unless I was using Padme’s purse sized Pocket Blaster, then I’d come across looking like a girl.

  19. AlphaCommando May 4, 2009 at 10:36 pm -      #19

    That girly blaster could still fry any man in modern body armor like a chicken in an oven…

    Make of that what you will.

    I think the works “book” and “cover” come to mind, but I get your point.

  20. L-W May 5, 2009 at 2:10 am -      #20

    I agree with you in that respect, but whilst for most of the series Padme conducted herself admirably with heavier carbines, rifles and even mounted Blaster weapons, throughout the Siege of Naboo she was caught woefully under equipped with this:

    images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/9/98/AmidalaBlaster.jpg

    Cheap and compact, but with a capacity of only six shots, a range of three meters and a lifespan measured in hours, it is designed primarily for concealment and low firepower, basically the galactic equivalent of a derringer.

    Personally I would rather holdout for a ELG-3A, a T-6 or preferably pay an extra five to seven hundred credits and get my hands on an E-11.

  21. Matapiojo May 5, 2009 at 7:38 am -      #21

    “they decanonized the disintegration feature as of season 3, mainly because the producers felt it was a silly feature that they regretted putting in for a one-time plot point.”

    Yea, it was a really stupid idea. Yet even without the desintegration element, the Zat still has some very important attributes the Blaster does not.

    As powerful as the E-11 is (because it is) this weapon is not always immediately lethal. Like many other weapons designed to inflict as much damage as possible, the outcome is contingent on the quality of the shot’s accuracy. Meaning that the blaster can blow away a limb with a grazing shot, but that person could potentially continue being a player in the fight. Maybe that felled oponent’s counter shot is what blows away the E-11’s wielder.

    On the other hand, should the Zat hit a target on the same limb its results will not vary. The target will be just as incapacitated by being hit in the head than it would be if hit in the pinky. There is no such thing as a grazing shot with the Zat.

    Hell, the Zat doesn’t even need to hit the actual person. We would see exactly the same effect if the weapon hits the target’s own weapon. The fact that the second shot is the lethal one is no issue at all when your target is rendered immobile and out of the fight with the first.

    In addition, its light and compact nature make it perfect not only for concealment, but for wielding two Zats at once. Sci-fi Gunslinger from hell. Also, the Zat doesn’t have a “battery life” as far as I know. Regardless of the quantity (and I know its a lot), the Blaster still needs to switch its Power Pack at some point. That should also be taken into consideration.

    You know me, I love the Blaster, things that make other things go boom always get an A++ in my book, but I still think the Zat has an overall advantage here.

  22. Syrtees May 8, 2009 at 7:36 pm -      #22

    L-W are you everywhere on this website?

    E-11 vs. Zat’ni’katel
    Thats a new one, well E-11 provides a higher chance of hit than a zat, but zat is instant knockout on first shot, taking that knockout as an advantage leading to kill, “IF” you can hit your target, zats are so inaccurate, and i stress the “so”.
    Sorry stargate fans E-11 wins this one.

  23. Space marine May 8, 2009 at 8:13 pm -      #23

    L-W are you everywhere on this website?

    Yes he is.

  24. L-W May 8, 2009 at 11:25 pm -      #24

    Everywhere is a hyperbole, I merely respond to the threads that appear on the index to the right.

  25. syrtees May 10, 2009 at 11:44 pm -      #25

    Why do i even try?

  26. L-W May 11, 2009 at 12:09 am -      #26

    The important thing is that you did try.

    Here, have a piece of candy.

  27. syrtees May 11, 2009 at 3:07 pm -      #27

    -.- What kind of person do you take me for?

  28. Matapiojo May 11, 2009 at 3:44 pm -      #28

    “What kind of person do you take me for?”

    One that doesn’t take candy from strangers.

    Clearly!

  29. Syrtees May 11, 2009 at 4:48 pm -      #29

    Why do you guys repeat a message before comenting on it?

  30. syrtees May 12, 2009 at 3:22 pm -      #30

    A question I ask myself about the Zat, does the ability for successional effects depend on the zat or the object being “zat’ed”. Therefore, would an object/person shot by three zats in rapid succession incinerate or simply be stunned as if being shot by one zat. I have speculated that it will be as if shot by one zat three times. But what if a target was shot by three zats at the same time, would it jump to instant incineration or somthing unforseen (at worst a quantum sunqularity forms and destroys the planet………the Ori win). last of all, if it did jump to incineration from three shots at the same time, what would happen with four zats doing the same thing?

    —-

    The E-11 has somany features that all i’m gonna say is read L-Ws posts, it is practically a swiss imperial assault rifle. But as in this match I’m gonna have to gowith the E-11, it has a far higher rate of fire and a better kill rate, not to mention more user friendly and more accurate, which is what i would prefer in a fight like this.

  31. Matapiojo May 12, 2009 at 4:28 pm -      #31

    “Why do you guys repeat a message before comenting on it?”

    If you notice, your messages will have a waiting period to be approved by the admin before being officially posted onto the discussion. This means that you may be mistaken in beleiving you are the one that will be directly below the post you are responding to. Once the messages have been approved, a good number of posts may be allocated before yours.

    Quoting the post that is being responded to help sort out confussion amongst posters.

  32. Syrtees May 12, 2009 at 4:48 pm -      #32

    “Why do you guys repeat a message before comenting on it?”

    “If you notice, your messages will have a waiting period to be approved by the admin before being officially posted onto the discussion.”

    Yes but it does make it sound slightly taunting

  33. Matapiojo May 12, 2009 at 5:53 pm -      #33

    “Yes but it does make it sound slightly taunting”

    If that is what you get from quotations, you will have serious problems in this site…

  34. Syrtees May 13, 2009 at 11:28 am -      #34

    “Yes but it does make it sound slightly taunting”

    “If that is what you get from quotations, you will have serious problems in this site…”

    Hahahahaha
    I meant it differently than you put it. I’m a sucker for MMOs, and usually when someone repeats what your saying, what they say next won’t be a compliment.

  35. Matapiojo May 28, 2009 at 8:01 am -      #35

    “Hahahahaha
    I meant it differently than you put it. I’m a sucker for MMOs, and usually when someone repeats what your saying, what they say next won’t be a compliment.”

    Really just don’t read into them too much. It is just a basic solution to site mechanics, not to mention a common protocol from message boards.

    Take it all in stride, my friend.

  36. The One Sin May 30, 2009 at 12:39 am -      #36

    The blaster is a homage to a sub machine gun, and I cannot for the life of me think of what it is called. Damn!

    /looks at the zat

    where is the handle?

  37. L-W May 30, 2009 at 1:57 am -      #37

    “The blaster is a homage to a sub machine gun, and I cannot for the life of me think of what it is called. Damn!”

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterling_submachine_gun

  38. AlphaCommando May 30, 2009 at 5:44 am -      #38

    Alot of the weapons in Star Wars are real only with sci fi-like bits welded on…

    That way they look both futuristic and practical at the same time.

  39. The One Sin May 30, 2009 at 10:13 am -      #39

    Thanks for the link.

  40. Belisaurius June 1, 2009 at 2:28 am -      #40

    True, the Zatnukatel (sp?) has impressive stopping power and flexiblity, but lacks a key feature that is taken for granted by those who shoot E-11.

    Automatic fire.

  41. David June 9, 2009 at 2:35 am -      #41

    man that ZAT thing just looks like a really fucked up fish

    At least the E 11 looks something like a gun

  42. Megaraptor18 June 14, 2009 at 7:27 pm -      #42

    Blaster Rifle at least looks like a weapon the Zat… WTF

  43. George June 25, 2009 at 11:04 pm -      #43

    The Blaster Rifle shown above was movie-fabricated out of a deactivated British “STERLING” model sub-machine gun. (With a few modifications and add-ons. )
    (GOOGLE search for the pic )

  44. AKC October 9, 2009 at 2:04 am -      #44

    ???

    These two weapons have completely different purposes. Comparing them isn’t easy.

    The Zat is for rendering someone unconscious or killing or disintegrating.

    The Blaster is just for killing. I suspect it has far greater range.

    If your purpose is to capture someone or get rid of a body, the Zat’s the way to go.

    If you’re looking to equip an army with decent range energy weapons, the Blaster’s the choice.

  45. atlantis January 5, 2010 at 5:57 pm -      #45

    “if your purpose is to capture someone or get rid of the body the zat is the way to go. If you’re looking to equip an army with decent range energy weapons the blaster’s the choice” I am going to have to agree with you on this one.

  46. Dartagn August 10, 2010 at 10:09 pm -      #46

    Come on, if you look at the use of the two weapons you’ll see that your comparing the wrong things.

    the Zat should be compared to a stormtrooper’s side arm, not his main weapon. you should be comparing the Jafa Staff weapon to the E-11; in which case the E-11 would def. win because of being compact and WAY more accurate. But the Zat would so beat the side arm, I don’t care what “blast pistol” you choose because of the zat’s versatility, it wins.

  47. NemoVonUtopia August 14, 2010 at 8:02 pm -      #47

    Here is a slightly random vid showing off the zat
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5RcDSPc_IA&feature=related

    Zats have the advantage of infinite ammo, the ability to hit anywhere, and (maybe) ignore armor. The Gafa seem to have metal armor so I don’t know if they’re only vulnerable because of that.

    Blasters have more power and can destroy thing but can graze and have limited ammo (although 500 shots isn’t very limited).

    I would choose a blaster mainly because I can’t imagine aiming the zat, I guess the Gou’ald in all their godhood overlooked sights, I mean how can you ain a 5 foot pole?

  48. Zervziel February 2, 2011 at 8:03 pm -      #48

    Is Zat a weapon or an adult toy? *ba-dum-tish*

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