Predator Vs Boba Fett

Predator Vs Boba Fett

As you might have guessed, Boba Fett is easily one of my all time favorite characters, so he gets some good face time on this site. Here’s a match that could either last for quite some time, or it could be over in a heartbeat. As long as the Predator knows he’s being hunted, it would be a great battle of strategy. Otherwise, it’s a slaughter.

What say you?

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289 Comments on "Predator Vs Boba Fett"

  1. L-W May 1, 2009 at 3:48 am -      #1

    Well, optical camouflage would be useless in this fight thanks to Boba’s helmet, as would the majority of his opponents plasma based weapons. This is a duel reserved solely to close range or melee combat for the Predator, giving the Fett man a definite advantage.

  2. Baron Somebody May 1, 2009 at 7:59 am -      #2

    That is a badass picture of Boba, and yes he kick’s the Predator’s ass

  3. Albert Wikowonkavitz May 1, 2009 at 8:35 am -      #3

    Well, there’s more than one Predator, and he has more impressive things from him.

    Predator: Killed and skinned a trained military unit, killed Aliens.
    Boba Fett: Found Han Solo, got knocked into the Sarlaac Pit.

    But of course, in the expandede universe, they decided to make him absolutely ludicrous, killing Jedis when he was 12…f**k the expanded universe…

  4. L-W May 1, 2009 at 9:38 am -      #4

    “f**k the expanded universe…”

    You don’t have to like it, but it exists.

    In my hierarchy of canonical feats, dueling with a war band of Yuuzhan Vong in hand to hand combat is so far above defeating and mutilating a conventional human force in so many scales, that it essentially becomes incomparable.

  5. Matapiojo May 1, 2009 at 10:15 am -      #5

    Fett holds too many advantages over your standard Predator to lose. Even if the fight got to close range, the neural darts on the generally exposed Predator skin leaves makes this a rather easy match for the Bounty Hunter.

  6. Albert Wikowonkavitz May 1, 2009 at 10:40 am -      #6

    It exists, but it’s sometimes ridiculous and self-contradictory.

    Predator grabs him by the mailbox flag on his head…okay, maybe not. I think Boba Fett is very overrated in terms of what he did in the movies…

  7. Albert Wikowonkavitz May 1, 2009 at 10:40 am -      #7

    Darth Vader could beat the Predator, though.

  8. marche May 1, 2009 at 10:51 am -      #8

    “his fate is quite laughable as to his demise in Return Of The Jedi that he is just been eaten and digested for a hundred years”
    Boba survived the sarlacc pit actually.

  9. demongrave May 1, 2009 at 11:42 am -      #9

    That’s a first. How’d he survuve? This is the first time I’ve heard of this.

  10. L-W May 1, 2009 at 11:54 am -      #10

    “The predator has slain countless aliens….it just so happened that they found earth and found some few worthy opponents….”

    I would put money on Fett having a larger collection bounties than any amount of Predator trophies, with the majority of them being far more dangerous than anything the Predator clans have yet to encounter.

    “Though Fett has a bunch of plasma weaponry, still, the predator has a last card to draw and that is his nuke…..all the predator need to do is to set the time and evade as much as possible then toss it to fett….POOF! there you have it….”

    If a human could outrun the blast radius, I’m quite positive that a Jet pack traveling in excess of 100km/h could easily evade the explosion.

    I really cannot fathom how anyone could possibly support the Predator in this match, not only does Boba Fett posses technology superior to that of his opponent, thereby disarming the Predator of every advantage it ever had against conventional enemies, but has probably taken more bounties in his comparatively short life than the Predator has had hot meals.

  11. Matapiojo May 1, 2009 at 12:02 pm -      #11

    “That’s a first. How’d he survuve? This is the first time I’ve heard of this.”

    He butchered the Sarlac from within by blasting the hell out of the creature. His incredible Mandalorian armor was able to withstand most of the acid damage while he climbed his way up from the dead creature.

    A fellow bounty hunter that was salvaging materials from the wreckage found Fett and took care of his injuries. Dash Rendar is the closest thing Fett has to a coleague.

  12. L-W May 1, 2009 at 12:03 pm -      #12

    “That’s a first. How’d he survuve? This is the first time I’ve heard of this.”

    He taunted the Sarlacc from within the psychic web (It is a sentient being after all) before dousing it with a quick blast of his jet pack. Whilst momentarily freed from its grasp, he uncoupled a thermal detonator and tossed it further into the gullet of the Sarlacc, climbing out of the pit with his bare hands just before the detonation.

    Upon first exiting the pit he passed out and fell back into the gaping maw of the of the Sarlacc, which upon reawakening he greeted with a hefty dose of napalm. Injured, scarred and bruised, he managed to escape the desert on foot, until he could find suitable passage to Slave-1.

  13. Albert Wikowonkavitz May 1, 2009 at 12:06 pm -      #13

    “I would put money on Fett having a larger collection bounties than any amount of Predator trophies, with the majority of them being far more dangerous than anything the Predator clans have yet to encounter.”

    That’s the thing. You only “put your money” on it.

    “If a human could outrun the blast radius, I’m quite positive that a Jet pack traveling in excess of 100km/h could easily evade the explosion.”

    A jet pack that easily malfunctioned when hit with a stick…

    “I really cannot fathom how anyone could possibly support the Predator in this match, not only does Boba Fett posses technology superior to that of his opponent, thereby disarming the Predator of every advantage it ever had against conventional enemies, but has probably taken more bounties in his comparatively short life than the Predator has had hot meals.”

    Again, “probably”, but not definitely. And apparently some armor, a faulty jetpack, a laser gun, and a ship that looks like a shoe are “superior technology” to a shoe, claws, a disc, a nuke, explosives, a ship, cloaking, heat-seaking vision…

  14. marche May 1, 2009 at 12:08 pm -      #14

    He used the sarlacc’s stomach acids and his jetpack to cause an explosion.

  15. Albert Wikowonkavitz May 1, 2009 at 12:10 pm -      #15

    The whole “mystique” of Boba Fett is based on speculation. He’s like Bigfoot or something. You hear of the great things Boba Fett does, but you actually SEE what Predator does.

  16. AlphaCommando May 1, 2009 at 12:13 pm -      #16

    “A fellow bounty hunter that was salvaging materials from the wreckage found Fett and took care of his injuries. Dash Rendar is the closest thing Fett has to a coleague.”

    Wasn’t it Dengar?

  17. Matapiojo May 1, 2009 at 12:31 pm -      #17

    “Wasn’t it Dengar?”

    YES!

    Sorry got my names mixed up (not the actual characters, mind you). Dash Rendar is FAR from Fett’s buddy….

    Now I’m embarrassed.

    “You hear of the great things Boba Fett does, but you actually SEE what Predator does.”

    Well, we are telling you what we have seen. I fail to see what sort of point you were making with this silly statement.

  18. marche May 1, 2009 at 12:35 pm -      #18

    “Some armor” is made from one of the toughest materials in Star wars.
    That ship that looks like a shoe is packed to the brim with weapons,sheilding,and misc. objects.
    That “laser gun” isnt the only thing boba has up his arsenal.

  19. L-W May 1, 2009 at 12:42 pm -      #19

    “That’s the thing. You only “put your money” on it.”

    Apparently the concept of betting is new to you. By placing an allocated sum of currency on my behalf, I increase the stakes by meriting either the most potential gain or the greatest deficit from any conceivable loss that may incur.

    By betting my own money, I place a greater faith in the likelihood of a single outcome rather than multiple.

    “A jet pack that easily malfunctioned when hit with a stick…”

    Actually it was Vibro tipped Force Pike, a weapon used by the Senate Red Guard that is capable of amputating limbs with only the slightest of taps.

    Thanks for playing, try again.

    “And apparently some armor, a faulty jetpack, a laser gun, and a ship that looks like a shoe are “superior technology” to a shoe, claws, a disc, a nuke, explosives, a ship, cloaking, heat-seaking vision…”

    You’re clearly new to this, so I’ll fill you in.

    1) His armour is actually composed of Mandalorian Iron, an alloy that is useful in deflecting low yield Blaster shots or even sustaining contact against a lightsaber for brief periods. The construction and design of this armour places it only several tiers below that of a Dark Trooper’s Phase III compositie exoskeleton.

    Not only is it incredibly durable, but it dampens even the blows from the fists of a Gen’dai such as Durge without the user incurring too much physical harm. It even acts as a hazard suit, is vacuum sealed for space travel, has excellent heat dissipation and even enhances the performance of the user.

    2) Actually it’s a high energy hybrid particle beam/electromagnetic energy weapon, but other than his Blaster this infamous bounty Hunter comes equipped with an arsenal capable of making any military blush in shame.

    Czerka ZX miniature flame projector, Dur-24 wrist laser, DXR-6 disruptor rifle, several dozen MM9 mini concussion rockets, a variety of tipped darts (For each occasion) and enough Thermal Detonators to devastate a small town.

    3) Whilst not the prettiest ship in the galaxy, there are very few who can compete with Salve-1. Just look here if you need more proof.

    factpile.com/slave-i-vs-enterprise-d

    4) Claws? Fett has taken direct strikes from Yuuzhan Vong amphistaffs with only minimal wounds. What do you propose claws could accomplish?

    5) Just some information on his helmet.

    “Fett could control weapons, sensors, and his jet pack with verbal commands. His helmet’s HUD (heads-up-display) featured information on the surrounding environment as well as a 360-degree field of vision. The HUD’s data streams could be controlled by eye movements and blinking. In addition, an advanced penetrating radar allowed his HUD to provide information on nearby rooms, and could be used to scan the HoloNet and connect with databases, allowing him to perform tasks which would normally require a computer terminal, such as searching databases for individuals or even trading on the stock market and buying real estate, from anywhere that was accessible through the HoloNet. The macrobinocular viewplate could be magnified to allow Fett to see great distances, and was equipped with, among other things, an infrared scanner that could be magnified up to 50 times. The infrared scanner magnified light up to 100 times or displayed heat gradations.”

    In future I would recommend utilizing the internet to perform some basic research on a topic, before resorting to such blatant misuse of hyperbole.

    – – –

    Don’t forget, this is the same Boba Fett who dueled with the likes of Durge and several Yuuzhan Vong with nothing more than a vibro blade. I have confidence that he could compete with the Predator in melee also.

  20. Matapiojo May 1, 2009 at 12:50 pm -      #20

    “That “laser gun” isnt the only thing boba has up his arsenal.”

    As a matter of fact, its not even the most powerful. It looks like it is already doing its job by fooling this guy. It has the same effect on his actual oponents (those that don’t know of him, of course), often being underestimated.

    His sawed off E-11 is but a versatile distraction. Foes may think they have the upper hand by disarming Fett from this weapon, but they get desintegrated, flamed, rocketted, darted, clawed, detonated, light-sabered, etc. into oblivion in short order.

  21. Albert Wikowonkavitz May 1, 2009 at 12:51 pm -      #21

    There are the movies and there are the expanded universe things. Pretty much all I’ve heard officially is that anything that doesn’t contradict the movies is canon and that Boba Fett was said by Lucas to be dead…

  22. Albert Wikowonkavitz May 1, 2009 at 12:55 pm -      #22

    I’m pretty sure I’m not the super expert who can look up what’s made of what, but I do think what I’ve seen of Boba Fett in the expanded universe (the most badass hunter ever, apparently) got a bit ridiculous compared to the Boba Fett that was in the movie(a bit character who looked kind of cool)…

  23. Albert Wikowonkavitz May 1, 2009 at 12:57 pm -      #23

    I’m basing my perception of these two on their movies, and not say, an overinflated, semi-official fanfic about how wicked awesome some dude is…

  24. Matapiojo May 1, 2009 at 1:05 pm -      #24

    We have discussed this far too often to go into detail right now.

    He fell into a hole. PERIOD. That is all you saw. That does not = death.

    Lucas said that he considers him to be dead, true, but his company accepts the subsequent events of the character in the EU to be canon. Everyone places him on a high pedestal, but Lucas is just inconsistent with it all.

    The truth is that he didn’t expect Fett to be so popular, so he is cashing in on that. As long as Fett continues having so many fans, he will be running around for a long time. He is A-OK with anything the company does as long as it doesnt directly contradict what happened in the movies.

    Crawling out of a hole hardly contradicts the events involving Fett.

    Stop using this argument, people. Find legitimate ways of defeating this man.

  25. AlphaCommando May 1, 2009 at 1:13 pm -      #25

    @Albert Wikowonkavitz

    If you want to ignore EU then by all means; do so, it sure as hell won’t get you anywhere tho.

    Anyway, if you really want an analysis of why Boba Fett has superior technology please refer to any of the SW-related threads where we needed to explain power and output levels, the rapid fire blaster is far superior to the weaker and more slowly firing plasma canon. There is too much stuff here that we have gone over, guns, weapons, armor, the Slave 1 for us to copy-paste you everything.

    The jetpack was damaged by a vibro-axe, which is perfectly reasonable considering the power of vibro-weapons…

    Cloaking is negated by the numerous sensors in Fett’s helmet, which includes sonic, thermal, ultraviolet, etc..
    And while the melee weapons that the Predator brings to bear are considerable you have to remember just how tough Fett’s mando armor is.

    EE-3 blaster, DXR-6 disruptor rifle, backup pistol, Slave I recaller on belt, Z-6 jetpack with concussion missile, flame Projector, a Flechette launcher, toxic dart launchers, Wrist Lasers, wrist-mounted vibro knife, a Plasma Flail, neuro-whip, multiple in-built Plasma launchers and a full blown arsenal of various Thermal Detonator models…yes Fett has so few weapons.

  26. marche May 1, 2009 at 1:25 pm -      #26

    When Lucas made boba,im pretty sure he had a plain character in mind.
    He was just supposed to be another bounty hunter.

  27. Thepocalypse May 1, 2009 at 2:26 pm -      #27

    This one goes to Boba. If it were movies only, Predator would have it, by the expanded universe has screwed Boba up beyond belief, he’s so skilled it isn’t even interesting anymore, as you know he’ll get away in the end.

  28. Spellca May 1, 2009 at 2:31 pm -      #28

    Here is how I see it…the Predator and Boba Fett are both highly experienced. I am going to use a Predator that has killed his far share of Aliens, humans and more drifting into the Star Wars galaxy (Galaxy Far Far Away) looking for a new target. He spots the Slave-I in a dogfight with an X-Wing squadron and is intriged by one ship’s command over the band of fighters. He tails Fett after the bounty hunter leaves the fighters as molten slag.

    Fett lands in Gall Spaceport to refuel and rest. The Predator lands also and watches Boba go about his underground venture from a far using his cloaking device. Soon…Boba learns of a Rebel spy, a Bothan…to be exact, carrying information through the canyon. The Imperial bounty is high so he decides to take a quick run. Boba takes off with just his basic weapons, gadgets and jetpack flying above the twisting rock formations searching for the Bothan. This is when the experienced Predator decides to go for the kill…with Boba pre-occupied with the other man, he would be off-guard.

    Boba lands and aims his EE-3 down upon a resting Bothan holding some sort of case. But then a rock cracks, the hunter turns to see the Predator uncloak holding a glaive. The weapon is swung but Boba ducks and shoots the beast in the mask with his blaster carbine. With its mask damaged and its HUD ruined, the Predator disguards it quite fast. “Ugly beast…” The weapon swings down and cuts through the gun. But Boba kicks the glaive away and it tumbles down the cliff. Wrist blades are deployed and the Predator moves in again.

    The fight goes on until both begin to tired. Both become wounded and Boba decides to end it fast…he already fired off his missle and lost his best gun. He flew back then bursted at the Predator at his highest speed. He grabbed the monster but the blades pierce the front of his damaged armor. Blood…spews out but Fett just roars out in pain. He goes out over the cliffs towards the center of the canyon and then deactivated his pack. Aiming perfectly…Fett usesw gravity alone to smash the Predator into a rock formation. Fragments of rock and slits of stone rip into the flesh of the Predator and leave Boba Fett sore. The bounty hunter walked over from the crying Predator.

    Boba finds the Predator’s glaive not far from them and retrieves it. He returns to find the Predator trying to activate its self-destruct mechanism. But, with two broken arms and reptured organs…pain is delaying it. Fett notices the possibility of alien suicide and chops off the arm with the bomb. But the red numerals flashed…”Crap.” Fett grabbed his jetpack and bound the arm quickly to the strap. Then the pack flew up towards the upper atmosphere and exploded as the bomb went off. Predator tried to get up and crawl away. But Boba placed the strange metal blade under his neck and swung like a golf swing.

    Guess who won…?

  29. Matapiojo May 1, 2009 at 2:54 pm -      #29

    “If it were movies only, Predator would have it”

    Even IF we were to use only the movie versions (ridiculous as it is), that still doen’t negate Boba’s gear. He is a walking tank.

    The Predator on the other hand was defeated by both Arnold, and Danny FUCKING Glover. Do you guys really want to use THAT as an argument?

  30. G2 May 1, 2009 at 3:54 pm -      #30

    Albert Wikowonkavitz

    Most people here are so brainwashed that they think the seperate universe is canon fact. Don’t even waste your time.

  31. x on May 1, 2009 at 4:54 pm -      #31

    @G2

    It doe’s not matter if you think it is not fact it is so deal with it or shut up. No one is brainwashed your just mad that you lost cus of it.

    I vote Boba Fett win’s.

  32. Who? May 1, 2009 at 5:22 pm -      #32

    “Most people here are so brainwashed that they think the seperate universe is canon fact. Don’t even waste your time.”

    That’s right G2, and we want you to join us… Join us G2, join us… Join us damn it!!! I hunger for yer brains!!!

    Please…

  33. fooby May 1, 2009 at 5:30 pm -      #33

    this is a classic BankGambling fight…..

  34. AlphaCommando May 1, 2009 at 5:33 pm -      #34

    Yes despite the fact that LucasArts did release information stating that the EU is indeed fact, including a scale marking certain works in levels of canonocity.

    Its more along the lines that you don’t want to believe it exists.

  35. AlphaCommando May 1, 2009 at 5:36 pm -      #35

    Sorry not LucasArts, its LucasFilm; LucasArts is the video-game subsidiary.

    I was playing Force Unleashed so that was stuck in my head…

  36. PaPPa JUDAS May 1, 2009 at 8:11 pm -      #36

    Boba survived and escaped sarlac

  37. G2 May 1, 2009 at 8:27 pm -      #37

    Expanded Universe facts are not the same as the true Star Wars universe facts.
    Fett is dead to Lucas. Sure he accepts him being alive in the EU,, but not in his universe.

    Expanded Universe Fett would kill this Predator.
    True SW Universe Fett would most likely have his skull added to the Predator’s collection.

  38. AlphaCommando May 1, 2009 at 9:24 pm -      #38

    What don’t you get about LucasFilm stating that the EU is canon?

  39. L-W May 1, 2009 at 11:27 pm -      #39

    “The Predator on the other hand was defeated by both Arnold, and Danny FUCKING Glover. Do you guys really want to use THAT as an argument?”

    Yep, an adolescent Predator in his prime was defeated in hand to hand combat by a forty-four year old Police Detective with no formal military or combat training. Not exactly the proudest moment in Predator history.

    – – –

    Anyway, let’s analyze the three major advantages that the Predator possesses over conventional human opponents:

    1) Physical strength and vitality: In terms of strength, resilience, agility, precision and endurance, a Predator is far superior to humans. Brushing off wounds that would not only be fatal to us, but dishing out inequitable levels of punishment to us weaker bipeds.

    2) Advanced weaponry: Compared to primitive human slugthrowers, their plasma based weapons are nigh unstoppable, bisecting humans and destroying even vehicles with only one to two bolts.

    3) Tracking technology: During the hunt, the Predator utilizes a light altering cloaking device to scout and monitor enemy positions with relative ease, which it continues to use during the hunt itself to maintain an element of surprise.

    Here are the counters:

    1) Boba has gone toe-to-toe with tougher opponents than a Predator and has usually come out on top thanks to his armour and wrist mounted vibro-blade. In a direct conest of physical aptitude, Fett could quite easily level the playing field with anyone of his close ranged weapons.

    2) Compared to primitive Predator Plasma, their particle beam based weapons are nigh unstoppable. In the Star Wars universe plasma is seen as an archaic excuse for real Blasters, which would most likely turn the exposed Predator to charcoal briquettes with a single shot. I wouldn’t be surprised either if those plasma spitting Shoulder Cannons were nigh useless against his armour.

    In a contest of firepower and technology, Boba Fett brings home the gold.

    3) As Alpha mentioned, said cloaking device would be negated by the sensory options available to his built-in HUD, or his belt mounted gravfield jammer designed to deactivate nearby cloaking devices.

  40. x on May 1, 2009 at 11:34 pm -      #40

    @AlphaCommando

    I think its everything. He doe’s not like EU cus it help’s Star Wars win battles that he wants his guys to win.

  41. Matapiojo May 1, 2009 at 11:50 pm -      #41

    Why must these matches always revert to moviesEU?

    Cant you find anything better to argue for?

    “Expanded Universe Fett would kill this Predator.
    True SW Universe Fett would most likely have his skull added to the Predator’s collection.”

    Again, if we stick to your “strictly movies” arguments, the Pred is just as easy to kill as your opinion of Fett. Glover killed one with no weapons and no armor. He just snatched up a Pred weapon, then gutted the thing.

    How hard can that be for a galactic bounty hunter that is notorious in the movies for his disintegration methods?

  42. G2 May 2, 2009 at 3:26 am -      #42

    “He doe’s not like EU cus it help’s Star Wars win battles that he wants his guys to win.”

    Wrong. I don’t mind EU. I just hate it when people mix it up with the true SW universe.

  43. JoshMcFace May 2, 2009 at 11:01 am -      #43

    Judging from what I learnt about Fett in the Fett vs Samus battle, I’d say Fett could take a Predator relatively easily.

  44. Who? May 2, 2009 at 1:03 pm -      #44

    Well actaully G2, Lucas himself expressed the fact that he accepts the EU as long as it doesn’t contradict with the movies themselves. And since most of these “side storys” are officially liscensed by LucasFilm, they are officially canon, (The infinities are in fact non-canon.) Lucas is somewhat edgey on expanded universe, which somtimes confuses the fans. However, Lucas has used many aspects of EU in his films, such as: Aayla Secura, General Grievous, (one of my personal favorite characters) Commander Bly, and C-3PO’s creation.

    “After Star Wars was released, it became apparent that my story—however many films it took to tell—was only one of thousands that could be told about the characters who inhabit its galaxy. But these were not stories that I was destined to tell. Instead, they would spring from the imagination of other writers, inspired by the glimpse of a galaxy that Star Wars provided. Today, it is an amazing, if unexpected, legacy of Star Wars that so many gifted writers are contributing new stories to the Saga.”
    ―George Lucas

    It’s all the same universe.

    “Fett fights for money….while the Predator fights for trophies and honour”

    Fett only accepts jobs that fit in his harsh sense of justice, his honor cannot be bought…

    “Fett kills anyone who interrupts him, be it the strong or the weak…..The Predator only kills those who are worthy enough to become his trophies…..Plus the Predator doesn’t kill ladies…ahihihi”

    He pimp slaps women who don’t give him his cut by saturday, but doesn’t kill them… Although he has virtually killed anything that moves.

    “Judging from what I learnt about Fett in the Fett vs Samus battle, I’d say Fett could take a Predator relatively easily.”

    Instant disintegration.

  45. L-W May 2, 2009 at 10:39 pm -      #45

    “However, Lucas has used many aspects of EU in his films, such as: Aayla Secura, General Grievous, (one of my personal favorite characters) Commander Bly, and C-3PO’s creation.”

    Don’t forget Coruscant. Without the EU the Galactic city would never have existed.

  46. Thepocalypse May 4, 2009 at 4:48 am -      #46

    “Don’t forget Coruscant. Without the EU the Galactic city would never have existed.”
    Incorrect. In one of the last unused scripts for Star Wars, many of the scenes on the Death Star took place on Coruscant. These were cut due to budget constraints that made a large system of hallways a more realistic setting. So, that’s Lucas you can thank.

  47. L-W May 4, 2009 at 8:36 am -      #47

    Actually, Alderaan and Coruscant were interchangeable in the original script (Since it was the original Death Star target), it just did not become Galactic City UNTIL it was depicted in the latter prequels.

    Owning the Star Wars scripts, I know this personally.

  48. L-W May 4, 2009 at 8:45 am -      #48

    Damn, I hit the post button accidentally, well here’s the rest of post #51.

    On a side note, Coruscant first appeared in the Expanded Universe and was called such for the first time in Timothy Zahn’s Heir to the Empire in 1991. Coruscant wasn’t seen on screen until the 1997 Special Edition release of Return of the Jedi, and then later appeared in The Phantom Menace. Coruscant is therefore one of the few EU elements that made its way in to the films.

    Coruscant, which was then called Alderaan, was to appear in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, but the budget wouldn’t allow, so a lot of action on Alderaan was moved to the Death Star and Alderaan became the name of Leia Organa’s home planet, which is destroyed in the film. The concept of seeing the Empire’s home world, renamed “Had Abbadon”, came up again in Return of the Jedi, and the concept of the entire planet being a city came up for the first time. However, it was realized that such a city on screen would be impossible given the technical limitations at the time, and so the idea was abandoned.

    Here is a list of other expanded universe elements that have later appeared in the films, which should silence all the “EU and Film canon should remain separate” naysayers out there.

    starwars.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_C-canon_elements_in_the_movies

  49. Locutus May 4, 2009 at 9:07 pm -      #49

    “One character that frequently comes up in the Canon Civil War is the ever-popular bounty hunter, Boba Fett.

    We’ve already touched on Lucas’s trampling of the various EU origin stories for Boba Fett, including whichever one LLP had decided was “canon” to them. Beyond that, however, there’s the apparent death of Boba Fett depicted in Return of the Jedi.

    In the film, a love tap from a stick wielded by a blind Han Solo activates Fett’s jet pack. This causes the smooth operator’s jets to fire, rocketing him away on what the script describes as his “last flight”. After some distance he slams into the metal side of Jabba’s barge, at which point he falls a couple of stories into the sand near the Sarlacc monster’s pit. He then rolls without so much as a scream “directly into the mucous mouth of the Sarlacc”, to which the Sarlacc responds with a belch. If that weren’t bad enough, at least two extra minions of Jabba are flung in behind him. If that weren’t bad enough, the crashed remnants of Jabba’s floating barges are then piled on top, after the very large explosion which destroys them.

    So, most people assume that Boba Fett is dead. However, Boba Fett became a very popular character, and appeared repeatedly in the EU. Lucas, in a 1997 MTV interview, said “I don’t know why. [Laughs] I’m mystified by it. He is, he’s a, I mean I think he’s a, he’s a mysterious character, he’s a provocative character. He seems like an all powerful character, except he gets killed. Although he’s gotten killed, the people who write the books, and everybody else, the comics, are all ‘We cant kill him, we gotta bring him back!’, you know, ‘He can’t die! We refuse to let him die!'”

    This idea that Boba Fett was killed in RoTJ is reinforced by the RoTJ DVD commentaries, in which Lucas refers to “Boba Fett’s death” and calls it “a misstep that we wouldn’t make more out of the event of his defeat”. Lucas did not identify just which of the many bad things that happened to Fett that day actually did him in, but he’s very clear in that, as far as he’s concerned, Fett is dead.

    In the Expanded Universe, however, Boba Fett was shown to be alive after the time these events would’ve occurred. The importance of this cannot be overstated. If Boba Fett is dead in the Canon but alive in the EU Continuity, then we have a clear example of the parallel universe idea in action. To put it another way, Lucas simultaneously accepts two separate and unequal fates for Fett. It is therefore an independent confirmation of the parallel universe concept Lucas has espoused in interviews and elsewhere. Separate histories mean separate timelines, and separate timelines mean separate universes.

    EU Completists have objected, rather amazingly, that Lucas’s opinion on the matter is irrelevant. They believe that since we do not technically see Boba dead in the film, then it can be assumed he is still alive. This prevents any contradiction between the film and the EU.

    However, that argument is wrong on many, many levels. Besides everything that happened to Fett in RoTJ, there’s the simple fact that it doesn’t matter. Even if we could step into the Star Wars universe, beam Fett out of the Sarlacc, and check for a pulse . . . it simply wouldn’t be of consequence whether we found one. Why? Because Lucas thinks he’s dead in his movie. Five years after Fett’s return in the EU, Lucas was talking about how he got “killed” in the movie. Five years after that, it was still Lucas’s opinion: “in George’s view — as far as the films go — the baddest bounty hunter in the Galaxy met his match in the Great Pit of Carkoon where –unfortunately for Mr. Fett — the ghastly sarlacc made its home”, as Sansweet noted in 2002. So, despite the fact that “Lucas also approved Fett’s comeback in the expanded universe”, Lucas nevertheless continued to believe Boba to be dead in his film universe for at least a decade. Even when, with the Special Editions and DVD editions, he had the opportunity to change it, he explicitly decided not to per his DVD commentary. (And this is not a man scared to change his films . . . witness the changes to the Han and Greedo encounter in ANH.)

    And so, Lucas simultaneously accepts two separate and unequal fates for Fett. Thus, despite the objection, we find ourselves at the original conclusion. Separate histories mean separate timelines, and separate timelines mean separate universes. We have it straight from Lucas and confirmed by Sansweet that these separate histories exist, and have been acknowledged as such for over a decade.

    Therefore, the facts of one universe are not necessarily the facts of the other.”

    -G2k

  50. Cpt Olimar May 4, 2009 at 10:05 pm -      #50

    that’s interesting, parallel universe of Star Wars. I could see him saying that Boba is dead as depected in his movies, yet he lives on in the expanded universe to go on.

  51. L-W May 4, 2009 at 10:13 pm -      #51

    Nothing to see here people. Just a very bitter person.

  52. Locutus May 5, 2009 at 1:56 am -      #52

    “Nothing to see here people. Just a very bitter person.”

    Oh noes he’s so bitter! Bla bla bla.

    Boba Fett is dead to Lucas and dead in the true canon of the SW universe. Face it.

    “In the case of Boba Fett’s death, had I known he was gonna turn into such a popular character, I probably would’ve made it a little bit more exciting.”
    – Lucas

  53. L-W May 5, 2009 at 2:16 am -      #53

    “that’s interesting, parallel universe of Star Wars.”

    That just seems like grasping to me. Desperate grasping.

  54. L-W May 5, 2009 at 9:16 am -      #54

    Too bad he’s alive in C-Canon, thus actually being alive in all canon.

    We went over this matter quite succinctly in the Samus Vs. Fett debate, do you *really* want to go over it again?

  55. Locutus May 5, 2009 at 4:03 pm -      #55

    Perhaps you missed the part of the post where Lucas himself said he was DEAD. Your C-canon is wrong.

  56. Who? May 5, 2009 at 6:23 pm -      #56

    “Perhaps you missed the part of the post where Lucas himself said he was DEAD. Your C-canon is wrong.”

    It was annoying for awhile, then sad, but now I find his rejections of EU to be hilarious.

  57. Spellca May 5, 2009 at 9:07 pm -      #57

    This Canon issues with Movies and Expanded Universe is complete bs. If you like star wars you take what is said as canon is canon. People use this debate to kill off characters so they can prove another one is better. Boba Fett lives, he gets out of the sarlacc, has a child, becomes Mandalore and dies of old age. Get over it…I am sick and tired of reading over moronic claims that the movies show higher truth then the novels and comics due to the fact that they are the films. Everything that is licensed as canon is true and usable…stop saying “Movie Fett” and “EU Fett”…they are the same guy. Get over it, find a better point to use and if you can’t do so, face the loss and suck it up.

  58. L-W May 5, 2009 at 9:30 pm -      #58

    Until Lucasfilm Ltd. releases a second Holocron index that declares:

    “C-Canon and G-Canon are not interchangeable and shall forever remain so”

    Then I’ll continue to state that you are doing nothing more than grasping (Pathetically) at straws; we know that both G and C are compatible, we know that elements of G and C often change hands quite frequently over the course of the series, we even have statements from the head of the company stating that the C-Canon EU *is* official Star Wars canon.

    Mr. Chee (Leland Chee, maintainer of the Star Wars Holocron, which is an internal continuity database which is kept secret from the public and which informs Star Wars authors what they must stay consistent to) further clarified with this when emailed by a member of the Star trek community attempting to disprove the validity of canon material:

    “The quote you provide makes it sound like the EU is separate from George’s vision of the Star Wars universe. It is not.”

  59. Who May 5, 2009 at 10:42 pm -      #59

    Man, it seems like this sort of canon debate occures in all the Fett/StarWars related threads… It gets old real fast, and deteriates the the thread’s main debate.
    I think I’m starting to hemorrhage out my ears…

  60. TheSorrow May 5, 2009 at 10:44 pm -      #60

    Seriously, just admit that Predator has absolutely no chance at beating Boba Fett, EU or not.

  61. Who May 6, 2009 at 12:42 am -      #61

    “Seriously, just admit that Predator has absolutely no chance at beating Boba Fett, EU or not.”

    That’s a given bro. I’m not sure if he was even argueing that…

  62. Locutus May 6, 2009 at 2:43 am -      #62

    Leeland Chee can say all he wants about the seperate EU.
    Lucas clearly stated Boba Fett is dead. Boba is and will continue to be dead in the one true SW universe until the creator says otherwise.

  63. L-W May 6, 2009 at 8:53 am -      #63

    Yes, because I’m sure your opinion and a few flimsy quotations count more than that of a man who Lucas, as the chairman of his company, legally hired to solely maintain and review the canonical status of his product; who states the exact opposite of everything you just said.

    My god, I thought you were just being stubborn on the other boards, now you’re just clearly delusional.

  64. Who May 6, 2009 at 5:28 pm -      #64

    “My god, I thought you were just being stubborn on the other boards, now you’re just clearly delusional.”

    You’ve noticed that too? Ah well…

  65. Jumpy McGee May 12, 2009 at 7:48 pm -      #65

    If Arnold could beat Predator, Than Boba can beat Predator.

  66. x on May 12, 2009 at 9:42 pm -      #66

    Boba win’s here with ease.

  67. fight May 15, 2009 at 7:23 am -      #67

    ALL YOU ALL HAVE EVER SEEN IN BATTLE ARE SIMPLE HUNTER PREDATORS there for a hunt not for war YOU ALL SEEM TO FORGET THAT THERE is a mightier class of predator the elders the head hanchos somebody talk about them yesh get off the star wars thing and get back to the fight (ha) OK so bobo vs an elder badass predator an elder remember all has the ability to live for hundreds and hundreds of years so just think all that knowledge and skill vs bobo hmm who do you think is gonna win that preator duh OH AND PEOPLE I HAVE TO POINT SOMETHING OUT THE REASON DANNY GLOVER WAS ABLE TO KILL THAT HUNTER PREDATOR WAS BECAUSE THE PREDATOR HAD BEEN SHOT LIKE10 TIMES WITH A SHOT GUN got back up by the way THEN HAD ITS ARM CHOPED OFF THATS THE ONLY REASON HE WAS ABLE TO WIN THE PREDATOR WAS IN A VERY WEAKEND STATE AND IT WASNT AN ELDER NOW TRY KILLING ONE OF THEM HEY COULD BOBA SURVIVE ON A PLANET for a 100 years with 1 eye and a spear and nothing else fighting 100 years worth of huge bad ass aliens nahh dont think so anyway bobo loses predator wins ha ya bunch of star wars basement dwelling weirdos ok well have a nice day :)

  68. Who May 15, 2009 at 11:26 am -      #68

    I’m sorry, I couldn’t understand you. I’m to busy being hand-fed hotpockets by my mom.

    In all seriousness, I couldn’t understand a single word in your post. Perhaps if you wrote in a more coherent style.

  69. AlphaCommando May 16, 2009 at 3:54 am -      #69

    Huh?
    *reads post*
    /facepalm

    Nice use of subtly and actual semantics in that post there. Hope you don;t start clogging up the site with posts of that caliber.

  70. Who? May 27, 2009 at 1:33 am -      #70

    I feel compelled to nominate Fett for another award, so I will. I nominate Fett for the award.

  71. Matapiojo May 27, 2009 at 8:13 am -      #71

    “I feel compelled to nominate Fett for another award, so I will. I nominate Fett for the award.”

    And who am I to argue this nomination?

    /agree

  72. Who September 20, 2009 at 5:08 pm -      #72

    I forgot all about this thread. Hey Admin, is there enough valid points to give Fett the award?

  73. nijuka September 29, 2009 at 5:23 pm -      #73

    i dont see any valid reason to why predator would lose to fett. on the alloys used by predator are unknown to man. ships made out of the can travel into a sun and not be destoried. the predators technology makes him hidden for sensors . only other predator technology can detect him. aswell predators alloy can easily cut into fetts armor. and to add his caster is far more powerful than your given it credit. honestly i think you have to be crazy to give it to fett. or you have no knowledge of predator whatsoever

  74. Who? October 1, 2009 at 2:14 am -      #74

    “i dont see any valid reason to why predator would lose to fett.”

    Really? Perhaps you should read over the posts once more…

    “on the alloys used by predator are unknown to man. ships made out of the can travel into a sun and not be destoried.”

    And yet a xenomorph’s stinger was able to pierce it with ease. Not to mention xenomorph acid can chew through it. I can almost gurantee Fett’s moleculer acid, which can chew through SW grade tank armor like nothing, will make very short work of Pred.

    “the predators technology makes him hidden for sensors . only other predator technology can detect him.”

    What do they call this? No limits fallacy? Anyway, the pred’s stealth field was a light bending mechanism, and never had sensor jammers as far as I’m aware. Hell, It was somtimes very noticable to the naked eye itself. Not only does Fett’s HUD locate cloaking devices that actually do jam most sensors (Bothan tech, etc.), Fett had a belt mounted gravfield jammer that could shut down said cloaking devices.

    “aswell predators alloy can easily cut into fetts armor.”

    I’m not so sure about that one… Fett’s armor is made out of Mandalorian iron. This substance can take untold amounts of punishment from the heaviest of SW grade weapons. Even lightsabers have very little effect. Granted the pred’s blades are made from an unknown substance that has shown it to be nigh unbreakable, I just don’t think they have what it takes to break through Fett’s beefy shell…

    “and to add his caster is far more powerful than your given it credit.”

    Still doesn’t make it any less primitive in the eyes of most Star Wars denizens. Plasma weapons were outdated a long time ago in their universe. Hell, many armors (including stormtrooper armor) soaked up plasma attacks like a sponge as if it were nothing. Sure the shock of the impact might throw them back, but the the wearer is still reletively unscathed. It is now the way of the paricle beam my friend. EMBRACE IT!!!

  75. nijuka October 1, 2009 at 1:05 pm -      #75

    comparing to a xenomorph? that armor wasn’t that alloy its not used by new bloods besides the spear and disc.and i am confendent that a xenomorph could do the same to fett if it got the chance. with the sensor comment that was based on the ship should of elaborated which cant be picked up on any sensors read up. so in a ship fight fett hasnt a chace. it still wouldn’t be farfetched to say he could use that masking tec on himself aswell

    “Mandalorian iron” is still iron preadators alloy could stand toe to toe with wolveriens claws and is compairable to his if not stronger as stated its the hardest alloy known to man harder than diamond only down fall is high levels of raidiation flooding it no quick brusts would rust it and make it brittle. which would kill a man as in fett where as preadator is highly resistant if not imune to it as larger versions of their plasma canons made for war preduce levels of raidiation that would kill a man in seconds. keep in mind all weapons are made out of this.

  76. Who? October 1, 2009 at 3:42 pm -      #76

    “and i am confendent that a xenomorph could do the same to fett if it got the chance.”

    I sincerely doubt it.

    “with the sensor comment that was based on the ship should of elaborated which cant be picked up on any sensors read up.”

    Ship eh? That makes a lot of sense. Predator infantry grade cloak fields never jammed sensors as far as I’m aware. SW infantry cloaking devices did however. Even then, many tools could still reveal the target in more than one way…

    “so in a ship fight fett hasnt a chace.”

    Even if predator stealth tech was SW level (doubt it), Slave I has sniffed out similer ships before. Not to mention the fact that it has taken on star destroyers before and survived. If Slave I’s shields can take direct turbo laser strikes (teratons of damage) and remain unscathed, I have my doubts that anything in the Pred’s ship could damage it. Not to mention Fett’s ship was shown gutting kilometer wide asteroids with ease in Episode II. Check out this link that a good friend showed me:

    home.att.net/~tomjlee/starwars/index.html

    ““Mandalorian iron” is still iron”

    Iron that can dissapate terawatts of power with apparent ease… Did I mention that it can make the might of a lightsaber yield for extended periods? This is no ordinary iron.

    “which would kill a man as in fett where as preadator is highly resistant if not imune to it as larger versions of their plasma canons made for war preduce levels of raidiation that would kill a man in seconds. keep in mind all weapons are made out of this.”

    And its still plasma based. As I said, plasma based weaponry is outdated in the SW U. Did you know clone trooper plasma sidearms operate in on the low terawatt calibur to disperse 4.2TJ of energy? These guns usually blast straight through droid armor (and the droid itself on a reguler bases), and a single charged shot can disentigrate an entire regular battle droid and even a good portion of the mighty super battle droid. This is a clone’s small outdated plasma sidearm alone… A single charged shot from Han Solo’s particle beam pistol can disentigrate an entire three meter tall heavily armored battle droid. Care to guess what Fett’s modified arsenal can do?

  77. Who? October 1, 2009 at 3:54 pm -      #77

    Must have mistyped my email…

    This is somewhat embarissing, but I put up the wrong link!

    www.stardestroyer.net/AOTC/Revelations-2.html

    That other link I posted was a joke.

  78. Who? October 1, 2009 at 4:06 pm -      #78

    Where did mah posts go?!

  79. Who? October 1, 2009 at 4:08 pm -      #79

    Oh wow… That’s trippy…

  80. chewie6000 October 1, 2009 at 4:17 pm -      #80

    its the BankGambling aura-it messes with your head. allot.

  81. Who? October 1, 2009 at 4:21 pm -      #81

    @chewie6000

    Indeed, I’m already never somone who I once was…. Wait, what?

  82. chewie6000 October 1, 2009 at 4:28 pm -      #82

    I am that but so much more and less.
    nooo ITS HAPPENING AGAIN
    /hides in corner until BankGambling fever passes.

  83. Who? October 1, 2009 at 4:36 pm -      #83

    AH! MAH HEAD!!!

    “Who’s mouth starts to foam”

    AARRRRRRRGHHHHH!!!!!!!

    “head explodes from facpile virus”

  84. nijuka October 3, 2009 at 2:02 pm -      #84

    i still say it wouldn’t be a easy fight for fett. his metal alone could rip into his armor one net gun and he would be a goner

  85. Who? October 3, 2009 at 2:39 pm -      #85

    “his metal alone could rip into his armor”

    I think I’ve been over this, but I could be wrong. Fett’s current armor has made lightsabers, vibroblades, forcepikes, and Vong amphistaffs stop dead in their tracks. All of these weapons have been shown to tear though most metals. Especially the lightsaber and amphistaff. The slightest nic from a vibroblade becomes a gaping wound. A mere tap from a forcepike can amputate limbs. Did I mention Fett houses retractible vibroblades of varying lengths in his wrist gauntlets? Or the fact Fett has his own lightsaber collection? I still highly doubt a Predator’s blade could rip into Mando armor.

  86. Who? October 3, 2009 at 5:50 pm -      #86

    But with all the ranged weapons Fett carries at his disposel that can blow apart heavily armored individuals in one shot (let alone completly disentigrate), I have my doubts that the battle would even get that close. In “Death, Lies, and Treachery,” a reguler shot from one of Fett’s pistols was capable of blowing an armored biker “clean” (not really…) in half. It was later shown to blow limbs of pirates off. The lucky victims just had the bolt run clean through their bodies. This is Fett’s sidearm…

    The EE-3 has been depicted in “OverKill” as to breach thick tank armor (and likely hit a fuel line) in one shot, and caused it to explode. It is not known whether or not this shot was charged, but judgeing by the fact he was shooting it in rapid fire succesion against Kyber’s soldiers before and after the tank incident, it was most likely a regular shot. In “No Disentigrations Please” (the same story where Fett single handedly wiped out an entire Imperial garison), the EE-3 was shown to breach stormtrooper armor at a whopping 300m distance with little effort.

    The DXR-6 would absolutely pwn the Pred in one shot, no questions asked. Even a glancing shot either kill or seveirly cripple the target. A direct shot would vaporize Pred, he’d be lucky to have a pile of ash remain. Did I mention it’s capable of breaching warship grade plating?

    These are just three of his standard weapons…

    The Triumvirate pretty much killed this debate several months ago…

    Admin, what are your thoughts on this match?

  87. nijuka October 7, 2009 at 4:50 am -      #87

    his metal highly out classes any of thoughs weapoms yeah his armor is good with energy but a better alloy always wins an that is in the history books……..say im wrong he hasn’t been hit with metallic alloy close to that of Woverine. his armor is iron nothing more or less just good with none metallic alloy close to that of Woverine and energy weapons. with all of predators weapons are made out of a net that is like razor wire and can be cut open with a knife. the inner levels of the sun cant phase this metal so i dont know if a light saber can help. the disc would cleave thourgh his fancy iron. he doesn’t need to us his plasma to kill…

  88. L-W October 7, 2009 at 6:01 am -      #88

    Nijuka, learn to correctly form sentences. Judging from the last post I’m struggling to determine as to whether or not you could be classified as sentient.

    1) “his metal highly out classes any of thoughs weapoms yeah his armor is good with energy but a better alloy always wins an that is in the history books”

    I have doubts as to whether you’ve read a book son.

    Whilst the Predator alloy is strong by modern standards, it is far from being adamantium you twit. It can be breached by modern firearms (Predator 2), can be heated to a red hot glow by laser optics (Predator 1), penetrated by the tail of a Xenomorph and can be vaporized by Predator plasma weapons.

    A blaster bolt would more than easily turn it to scrap.

    2) “with all of predators weapons are made out of a net that is like razor wire and can be cut open with a knife.”

    Can be cut apart with a normal military issue blade and requires seconds of consistent pressure to even lacerate human flesh on contact. Hardly what you would call a killing blow to a heavily armoured human covered from head to toe in a denser than titanium alloy.

    3) “the inner levels of the sun cant phase this metal so i dont know if a light saber can help.”

    Back that statement up.

    4) “the disc would cleave thourgh his fancy iron. he doesn’t need to us his plasma to kill…”

    The only thing we’ve ever seen it cut through was an unarmoured human in a sealed body suit, provide evidence or at least an intelligible argument that the micro-blades can cut through Mandalorian Iron or get the hell out.

  89. Who? October 10, 2009 at 12:22 am -      #89

    Why do I get the feeling Nijuka didn’t read a single word in my posts… It saddens me, really. Hopefully you put the final nail in the coffin L-W…

    Fett/award

  90. Who? November 1, 2009 at 9:11 pm -      #90

    How many more votes do ya need Admin? Not that it matters, but this thread kind of seems due for an award…

  91. AHEM December 2, 2009 at 1:43 pm -      #91

    I second the nomination for Boba Fett.

  92. alfieboi13 July 22, 2010 at 12:22 pm -      #92

    Third the nomination.

    Is it just me, or would Boba versus 10-20 Predators be a better fight?

  93. Anime Hero Kevin July 22, 2010 at 12:56 pm -      #93

    boba fett got this in the bag because he can use his acid blaster or just fly up whit his rocket pack and shoot the predator whit his blaster. But again the predator have his invisibilite armor to hide and attack Boba whit his plasma gun or whit his other weapons that can kill Boba, So I have to give the FP award to……………… is so hard I cant deside who wins so is tie.

  94. Negative Zero July 30, 2010 at 1:52 pm -      #94

    I like the pedator as much as the next guy but can he really stand up to Boba Fett. Remember Boba is gonna be packing the following things.
    Sawn-off Blaster Rifle
    Wrist Rockets
    Posion Kamino Saber Darts
    Wrist Flamethrower
    Jetpack
    Jetpack Rocket
    The Slave-1
    Oh and I’m pretty sure his helmet can let him see an invisible Predator.
    Boba Fett for the BankGambling award.

  95. Negative Zero July 30, 2010 at 2:14 pm -      #95

    Anybody else agree?

  96. Negative Zero July 30, 2010 at 2:27 pm -      #96

    “I like the pedator as much as the next guy but can he really stand up to Boba Fett. Remember Boba is gonna be packing the following things.
    Sawn-off Blaster Rifle
    Wrist Rockets
    Posion Kamino Saber Darts
    Wrist Flamethrower
    Jetpack
    Jetpack Rocket
    The Slave-1
    Oh and I’m pretty sure his helmet can let him see an invisible Predator.
    Boba Fett for the BankGambling award.”

    I forgot to mention that he has cables and wrist blades(he basically has everything that Jango had).

  97. Negative Zero August 2, 2010 at 8:49 pm -      #97

    I found an awsome picture that relates to this fight.
    media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0h7eg5BnY1qb9fo9.jpg
    Boba for the BankGambling award.

  98. overlord August 2, 2010 at 8:51 pm -      #98

    I’m inclined to disagree. The predator is just too smart and its weapons are too powerful.

  99. MEGADOOMER August 2, 2010 at 8:52 pm -      #99

    Oh NO! The Pred poked out Boba’s eyes!

  100. MEGADOOMER August 2, 2010 at 8:53 pm -      #100

    I’d think that Boba would be smarter than the Pred, plus he has many more hidden weapons than the Pred.

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