Published on April 23, 2009, by admin - Posted in Duels 57
Here’s a match that I don’t think would take very long for Batman to win. While you could argue that they are both freedom fighters, I think that Batman just has too much experience to lose this match.
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i think that batman would win but it would take a fairly long time just simply becaue in the movie V got shot about 100 times and still managed to kill everyone before they could reload with knives and all he had for defense was a relatively thin peice of armor
but i think batman just has to much tech on his side to lose.
if it was hand to hand tho V would win
However, I don’t see Batman loosing this one.
V wins this. He’s even better at stealthy combat than Batman, and could slit the dark knight’s throat before a single batarang was thrown.
no contest all v has are knives and bombs whereaes batman not only has 3 bat-a-rangs for every knife v has bats bombs are way more explodey not to mention all the other crap he has in his tool belt.also v is a ripoff of phantom of the opera and like him wears that mask for a reason mostly becuase he looks like zippy the pinhead under it.batman however doesnt have any problems like that and gets all the chicks not to mention catwoman who no matter the actress or who drew her(halle berry is the best one though)batman got a kiss from her which means he is cooler than even superman. now excuse me but my brain has melted at the thought of catwoman and i must recover
“v is a ripoff of phantom of the opera and like him wears that mask for a reason mostly becuase he looks like zippy the pinhead under it.”
Please…stop. Aside from both owning masks and being human males, how are they in any way similar?
NICE! This would be an awesome fight to see. Batman’s tech gives him the advantage though…he would win.
However, If Batman was unexpectadly attacked without much tech, V could take him down.
This would be a magnificant fight but in my opinion, V would come out on top. While batman is highly trained, V is superhuman. He was injected, and survived a deadly substance that inhanced all of his attributes. Batman is a highly resourceful guy, but you cant beat a half-immortal being.
One man cannot stop V. You could not do this with 10000 Spartans, it is folly.
“One man cannot stop V. You could not do this with 10000 Spartans, it is folly.”
Explain please, I understand V is strong but from what i’ve seen he would lose to Batman and he would certainly lose to 10000 Spartans. In the film he does some impressive things but nothing anywhere near that impressive combat wise.
“Aside from both owning masks and being human males, how are they in any way similar?”
ok maybe rip off was a little strong but he is based on him they are both badly disfigured (never really said so in the book but im guessing from her reaction to him removeing his mask) so they wear masks both are architectural geniuses who like to blow things up and in the original the phantom could throw knives very well even cutting down a chandalier to stop police pursuit
“he develops Olympic-level reflexes, increased strength” i copied that off wiki it never said anything about him being immortal and with all his training supposedly batman has olympic level speed and reflexes
That’s… that’s a joke, buddy.
“That’s… that’s a joke, buddy.”
Sorry I didn’t realise because it can be hard to tell when someones joking when what their saying is written in typing.
To expand on what Diana said, V has done all his work without the luxury of a mansion to run to and a sea of fancy equipment. The fact that he’s managed to free an entire nation from oppression in one year while it took Batman a longer time WITH all of his weaponry in DKR and DK2 proves that V is the superior force here. He’s like smoke. Smoke Batman’s going to choke on if he isn’t careful.
“Sorry I didn’t realise because it can be hard to tell when someones joking when what their saying is written in typing.”
Yeah, it’s also hard to tell when people are just playing around and when they’re angry since you can’t see their face or hear their voice. It’d be nice if we could fix that somehow, as I really think it impedes the progress of the internet. BTW, I was reading Mike Wallace’s book “50 Years From Today” and the creator of Google genuinely believes that we’ll be connecting other planets and colonies to the internet by 2058. A ways off for some older members, but I’ll apparently still be youthful as they also say we can pretty much slow aging to a near-standstill by re-capping cells as they degenerate. Lifespans could jump from 76 to 140 or 200.
Batman!!!! R u kidding me? V dies, Batman lives…!!!!! And even if Batman somehow loses, there’s always another Batman to take his place (Batman Beyond) & oh yeah Robin, also known as Night Wing. After V, that’s it…ENF
“V dies” and?
He still managed to fight in peak condition despite being pumped full of bullets.
“Even if Batman somehow loses”
Hey,guess what? If Batman ‘somehow’ loses he stil LOSES.Therefor V would be the winner,regardless of Nightwing or Terry replacing him.
That idiocy aside,I think V could win through sheer willpower.
I don’t know who would win. but I would much rather see them engage in a political about law and order(Batman’s position) vs. Anarchy (V’s position).
Uhh, no way. Batman is the most powerful non-metahuman ever because of his genius level intellect, superior fighting ability, and his many other skills. He’s the best fighter that ever lived and mastered most fighting styles. Batman wins hands down.
“to whom many people believe it granted enhanced strength, reflexes, endurance and pain tolerance”
better than batmans ill bet, did you see how fast he was? when you kill that many people in the time it takes to reload a gun(a few seconds) with knives, thats superhuman, and better than batman
Well, if V is limited to Olympian reflexes and strength, he would be only a little more powerful than Batman. If he’s superhuman, he will have an immediate advantage. It really depends if Batman gets the prep time to utilize his greater strategy and arsenel in order to win.
it was not stated that he gets prep time so he does not get prep time
v wins this one i think
V is super humanly fast. The disease had changed him, making him far faster than human biology normally allows.
Taking down half a dozen trained soldiers while they reload with only knives and cracking someone’s neck with only one’s hands is a fair bit more than what batman is capable of.
Ok through all of this fanboyism I’ll have to go with Batman out of the facts, ok every time they put Batman against ANYONE Batman HAS to win, it could be supes on steroids and red kryptonite and somehow Batman will use his quick wit and save the day, and everyones acting like Batman never took out guys with guns before, pick up a comic lately? And as far as V being better in stealth thats totally preporsterous, you have a man whos suit is MODELED after a bat, a creature who conveniently LOVES in the dark, excuse me if that doesn’t count for something. Lastly, the willpower fight is contestable as well, there have been many instances where Batman has had to fight without his suit or gadgets and manages to win as always.
To those who think V is smarter, faster, and much stronger, i belive they are equal in almost every way. I’ve seen Batman lift people up with one hand in several of his movies as V did. In Batman Begins when he’s in the shipyard, Batman takes on 10-15 thugs with weapons at once in a very short time as V did. And Batman is a genius with or without his fortune and would still pull off the vigilante hero without all of his gadgets. Don’t let the Matrix slow-motion or slight superhuman strength fool you (V couldn’t be stronger than Spider-Man let alone Superman) both are evenly matched hand-to-hand or with gadgets. Only difference is Batman doesn’t kill. I see the outcome as a draw, both dying or both failing to defeat the other. You have to love geek conversation ; )!!!
For those of you who say V loses, don’t just watch the movie, read the graphic novel. V’s a freedom fighter, Batman being hellbent on defeating crime, V fights for freedom.”People shouldn’t be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people.” While Batman is getting a batarang, V would have already had Batman pull an exploding hand out. Then he would slice his neck, yes despite the shocking ability of the suit. The movie screwed everything up, turned it around, and made it a fourth matrix pretty much.
V wins, so does anyone else agree with me?!?
Honestly, no. V fought against dogs of the Government. Batman fought guys stronger, faster, with more powers ranging from freezing you to shape shifting, and a guy who makes all these villains afraid of him. Batman recovered from having his back broken. Crippled for months when it takes normal men years.
Batman is used to fighting guys like V. V, on the other hand, dealt with normal people with guns. He may have the so called Super Human Strength and Speed, Batman had a lifetime of training thanks to the fact he was rich. He also has technology not seen in V’s world, which also gives him an edge over the limited and primitive weapons V possesses.
I don’t know if you read graphic novel or not, but V planned and destroyed the facility he was in from manure! He stood naked in the flames, survived the experiment, which yes did give him superhuman abilities, which is an edge to this fight, and V can win for 1 more reason, he can blow up the batcave, or his mansion. Even if Batman is not there, but all of Batman’s tech will be destroyed, then V would be able to kill Batman much easier.
-If there is no prep time, then V wouldn’t be able to plan out for anything and would simply have to figure out how Batman fights. And considering the people V fought compared to the people Batman fought, he’ll have a harder time getting used to someone who fought against people similar to him.
-If there is prep time, then V would have to use the time given to figure out who Batman is and how he works. This is also time Batman can use to figure out V, and when Batman figures it out, he usually has a Gambit that is usually successful. And as you said, it took him a year to plan everything out to free the government. It takes Batman less time to defeat his foes.
(Un)Natural talent can only get you so far. And Batman fought against people who can leap across rooftops, rip steel like butter, and even a guy who can calculate every move a person makes down to the second.
And V saved people from an oppressive government, instead of being a hellbent man against crime, and who will stop at nothing but his 1 rule to stop it. V has no rules!
V fought a government filled with soldiers with basic training. His main targets (the government leaders) had little to no training. If this was a group battle I would think V would win. If V was fighting against a super villain government then I may think otherwise.
This is a one on one fight. A type of fight Batman has training for. With V, he used the fact he has super abilities to surprise his targets. Batman won’t be surprised to see someone with those enhancements.
Before Batman draws batarang, V would have killed him. End of discussion. for other discussion, would it be in dark, or broad daylight, because V has experience in both.
What proof do you have that the situation would happen? Do you think Batman would just stand there and pull a batarang out in the open in front of his opponent?
And considering he still got shot, he’s not faster then a bullet. He’s faster then people’s reloading time, which is not really a good indication of speed.
Me thinks that Rorschac is a fanboy. But that’s just me…
WTF! Why would I be a fanboy. V moved that fast after they emptied their magazines into him. Batman should just throw his batarangs into V, and his bombs. Then this might be a fight Batman could win.
Batman loses. He doesn’t kill so V will get him eventually.
I see what you’re doing. Your point will get across.
Blood Dancer that damn rule need to be changed. Its irk my nerves not by the fact that I like the characters but from the fact that people only use it when their favorite character is about to lose. So Either it goes for all or none of them. There can be no flip floppy rule base cause that leads to chaos.
I remember this debate, good times Blood Dancer 8)
The rule doesn’t need to be changed, all we need to do is change match conditions for certain characters so instead of a death match, they only need to incapacitate the opponent.
No it needs to be changed since people only use it when it suits their needs. So either do away with it or don’t make the matches cause its gay and a waste of bandwidth. You notice how the only time these little rules comes into someone argument is when they’re losing and its their favorite character. I forgot that rule existed until recently then I began to notice the trend.
“No it needs to be changed since people only use it when it suits their needs.”
Changed in what way?
“So either do away with it or don’t make the matches cause its gay and a waste of bandwidth.”
Didn’t you just say it needs to be changed?
I mean’t gotten rid of or don’t put the characters in Deathmatches.
No killing I mean. CIS can stay but not to the point where it makes a character lose just because he doesn’t kill. It doesn’t make for good or interesting matches since 9 times out of 10 the character they’re up against would kill them as soon as look at them.
We can only hope that Admin listens to you.
They both represent some heavy ideals. This one is a draw for me. They are both very intelligent,skilled, powerful and resourceful. Their will is unbreakable. There is no telling what would happen in a clash of these monsters.
V. simply because he could fight in what appeared to be peak condition after taking something between 150-200 bullets in the chest, arms and legs. and the makeshift “bulletproof” vest he was wearing was useless, made apparent by the multitude of bulletholes when he pulled it out.
The fact that puts batman at the harsh disadvantage is that V is a much more elaborate planner than Batman. Batman’s actions are almost entirely reaction based. That mean’s he would have to know that V is planning to kill him. And V is just as if not more stealthy than Batman. All the tech batman has would be useful in discovering V’s plan, but ultimately there is very little tech Batman has that would be useful in bringing V down in a fight if it was necessary.
V is the superior planner to Batman as well as physically superior because Batman is as physically strong as a person can get, V’s body is beyond human limits. This gives him the fighting advantage. His intellect and drive would also give Batman’s a run for the money, but ultimately the problem exists within the fact that V would kill batman immediately.
no offence to batman but V would just win. first of all, v would see the deed through while batman would knock v out then walk away. second, batman wouldn’t even be able to hit v in the face because of his mask. all v would have to do is throw a knife at batman’s exposed mouth or face and batman would be done.
No offence but Batman has fought enemies far worse than V. That gives him even more fighting experience than V. If you guys think batman will just be standing there and pull out a batarang then get stabbed by V from behind you’re wrong batman has encountered stealthy enemies before like ra’s al gul’s ninjas. He was able to outmatch them with such ease. Plus not to mention Batman has not only a batarang for the situation but also smoke bombs which will hide him or anesthetic gas (he uses them on crisis on infinite earths) to make it even more difficult for V to get him.
Bats carries batarangs which can cut into a skull when throw, explosive that can be left around as trap or fired from a minu luancher, and handheld/guantlet laser.
On top of that he is a master of multiple martial arts, wears armor, has various modes of detecting(sonar, thermal, etc), and has fought off enhanced human assassins even without his gadgets or armor.
I think v would win this fight , but it would not be an easy one . Come on he got shot more then 70 times ! And he still moved at break necks speeds. In that scene he said ‘l’ll kill you before you have reloaded “.
He was also wearing armor when he got shot… I’m pretty sure that helped him survive.
Batman has fought aliens with far more advanced tech than V surely the Dark Knight can beat V as well. Plus Batman operates stealthily as well as V it all falls on the situation
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