Hellboy & Dante Vs Venom & Spawn

Hellboy & Dante Vs Venom & Spawn

Well, this should make for a fun match. All of these characters on their own can present trouble for any opponent. Paired up with a common objective, which of these teams do you think would win the match?

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143 Comments on "Hellboy & Dante Vs Venom & Spawn"

  1. OriginalA May 24, 2010 at 8:35 pm -      #101

    Bah, sorry. I completely missed you huge post. How about this to keep the fight interesting:

    Spawn as he was after throwing away the powers of god, but before the suit rejects Al Simmons.

    Does that sound like it might be a decent fight?

  2. Darkbladex96 May 24, 2010 at 8:40 pm -      #102

    “So the ending of the fight sapped his powers completely? There is litterally no power fluctuation between what he was before/during the fight and then being powerless after it?”

    literally nothing, after the fight he started to try and regain his humanity and everything went terrible. he gave up everything, then rejected the suit..went thru hell to make sure everybody survived then he killed himself.

  3. OriginalA May 24, 2010 at 8:51 pm -      #103

    Well it is nice to know that at least somebody wanted to have him do some character development instead of just punching the next bigger bad.

    Also I completely forgot about Venom and Hell Boy. Not that they matter against god-spawn.

    Welp, good show Spawn, you soloed this match.

  4. Darkbladex96 May 24, 2010 at 9:05 pm -      #104

    “Spawn as he was after throwing away the powers of god, but before the suit rejects Al Simmons.

    Does that sound like it might be a decent fight?”

    that would be King of hell power level i believe. he didnt lose those powers he simply lost the title. but thats the level ive been describing. the power of god gave him the ability to screw around with heaven hell and earth simulatenously.

    The heap, a being from purgatory, gave spawn the power of transmutation, control over elements, total awareness of all things in earth realm, and the ability to exile people to the Grazer realm.

    his hell powers are mostly in Hell save for summoning hellfire and breathing hellfire and blasts of it. but thats not a problem since he can teleport him self and anything he touches anywhere in earth, hell or heaven realms.
    and his range is undefined with the chains and cape since their length responed to his will and they can extend as for as him power limits them which is infinite and has always been limited to his imagination.

    its hard to find a power level of spawn that would make this fair. at his weakest when he fully accepted his hellspawn nature he could fire a blast and eradicate dante or hellboys soul in ansingle blast. he could use his cape or chains to turn hell boy and dante into fine red mists similtaneously.

    he could harden his armor or cape to tank bullets and explosives of human, demonic and divine nature.

    there isnt really a weak enough incarnation (not counting his depowerment) of spawn since anything he couldnt do willingly would occur as reflex, instinct, or as the symbiotes direct interference.

  5. Darkbladex96 May 24, 2010 at 9:18 pm -      #105

    “Also I completely forgot about Venom and Hell Boy. Not that they matter against god-spawn.”

    its a shame venom was my favorite marvel character it would have been nice for him to get some action. but
    1. he McGargon now and alot more powerful then brock ever was.
    2. Eddie is currently Anti venom who needs some matched on FP.
    3. the teams were kinda mismatched because hell boy is actually pretty freaking weak.

    it would be more interesting if it was two high powered characters and 2 medium characters, say if it was. spawn and venom vs Laharl and Dante.

  6. dead stroke1234 May 27, 2010 at 1:37 am -      #106

    well hello guys its been awhile but im back!i still dont know really tie i guess or maybe 1 wins no 2 gaw its just a hard decision for me i still barley know any thing about spawn though some one fill me in here?

  7. Darkbladex96 May 27, 2010 at 1:45 am -      #107

    just read through youll see all the things spawn can do.

  8. Soldier's Shadow January 3, 2011 at 11:52 pm -      #108

    Ignoring Spawn in this fight as he brutally rapes the other team alone without trouble; Venom would still be unable to incapacitate or kill as neither Dante nor Hellboy have any high frequency sound devices or extreme heat that can harm the symbiote.

    Venom outclasses Hellboy in strength as I don’t recall him ever being able to lift 40 tons and he definitely outclasses him in speed. Hellboy durability is ineffective here against Gargan as the symbiote outspeeds and overpowers him and he’ll be hit constantly and painfully as his blows to Venom, if they land, would be useless.

    Venom matches well with Dante in the speed department as he’s capable of dodging bullets at point blank ranges quite easily but is outclassed in strength going by Dante’s feats against the Savior. With his ESP/Pre-Cog, Venom will be one step ahead of Dante the whole time until Dante adjusts to it with time and will be sending webbing and blows his way. Dante’s very durable with his quick and powerful regen but that’s rendered null by Venom being immune to all of his attacks that are brought forth due to his healing and the lack of high noise or extreme heat. If Dante had Ifrit or Pandora, he’d be able to defeat Venom but without them, he’ll eventually fall or possibly be corrupted by the suit if that’s allowed. With SE, Dante can’t vanquish Venom.

    Well that was my attempt to give Venom some justice in this fight as he was seemingly neglected the whole time…for good reason though as Spawn’s here and, yeah….

  9. Chuck inglish January 3, 2011 at 11:56 pm -      #109

    “Venom matches well with Dante in the speed department”

    no just no… dante’s easily hypersonic

  10. Soldier's Shadow January 4, 2011 at 6:53 pm -      #110

    Dante has hypersonic reactions and potentially hypersonic movements thanks to Chrono Heart and Quicksilver but most of his attacks are sub-sonic as clarified by OriginalA. Sub sonic attacks are well within Venom’s reactions and considering SE fucks Dante over here by depriving him of any weapon that can harm Venom, he can tank all of Dante’s blows and keep on coming.

  11. Soul Eater :) January 4, 2011 at 7:47 pm -      #111

    @Soldier’s Shadow.

    do you think that a battle betwen Spiderman vs Dante will be awesome?

  12. Soldier's Shadow January 4, 2011 at 7:58 pm -      #112

    @Soul Eater

    Dante would stomp Spiderman. Spidey’s much weaker than Dante is, slower than Dante is and nowhere near as durable. He maybe able to hang for a bit but Dante will crush him in time once Spidey can’t run anymore.

  13. Based God January 4, 2011 at 8:05 pm -      #113

    “Dante has hypersonic reactions and potentially hypersonic movements ”

    no he has hyperspeed movement considering he goes toe to toe with blitz
    darkblade already proved it

    “Venom, he can tank all of Dante’s blows and keep on coming.”
    no just no,dude venom gets hurt by spider-mans(class10-15) attacks
    one well placed attack from dante’s(class100+) rebellion or its shockwaves cleaves venom in half

  14. Based God January 4, 2011 at 8:13 pm -      #114

    “r but most of his attacks are sub-sonic”
    are you serious? go watch the intro of dmc 3 where Dante and Vergil were fighting that raindrop feat puts them at hyperspeed in combat speed

  15. Soldier's Shadow January 4, 2011 at 8:27 pm -      #115

    “no he has hyperspeed movement considering he goes toe to toe with blitz
    darkblade already proved it”

    That’s nice but his attacks are still capable of being reacted to as they are laregly sub-sonic for the most part as proven by OriginalA.

    “no just no,dude venom gets hurt by spider-mans(class10-15) attacks
    one well placed attack from dante’s(class100+) rebellion or its shockwaves cleaves venom in half”

    Venom has taken on the Juggernaut before and Dante is not as strong as Juggs is. Even if he cleaved Venom in half, what of the symbiote that would still exist? Would those shockwaves generate enough heat to destroy it before it corrupts him? Venom also has pre-cog which will keep him a step ahead of Dante and will allow him to avoid plenty of Dante’s sub-sonic attacks. Shockwaves require charging as proven by the Drive attack in DMC3 and DMC4 and there’s no calculation if it’ll generate enough heat to destroy Venom, suit and all.

    Spawn solos this so long as his incarnation has his powers, no problem. Post #4 on this page proves it.

  16. Based God January 4, 2011 at 8:53 pm -      #116

    “Shockwaves require charging as proven by the Drive attack in DMC3 and DMC4”
    dante simply generates a shockwave with a simple sword slash without even charging www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLdIPhblcIk (21:19) which slices the hindges on the windows and in the manga a link were young 18 years old dante cuts his building open with one www.mangafox.com/manga/devil_may_cry/v01/c005/11.html and he didn’t have to charge

    “Venom has taken on the Juggernaut before and Dante is not as strong as Juggs is”
    what the fuck is that supposed to mean… its not like he tanked it then laughed at it

    And once dante kills eddie the symbiote wont be able to give dante any trouble thus leaving dante as the winner

    “That’s nice but his attacks are still capable of being reacted to as they are laregly sub-sonic for the most part as proven by OriginalA”

    once again go watch the intro of dmc 3 that raindrop feat puts his attack speed in the hyperspeed range

  17. Based God January 4, 2011 at 9:45 pm -      #117

    oh and considering this is DMC2 Dante.. this means he gets all of his amulets and weapons from Dmc 2 which means he gets Flame heart which when equipped, gives Dante’s attacks the flame attribute

  18. Soldier's Shadow January 4, 2011 at 9:45 pm -      #118

    Does the shockwave have the sufficient heat power required to destroy the symbiote?

    “what the fuck is that supposed to mean… its not like he tanked it then laughed at it ”

    Venom fought Juggernaut to the point where Juggs couldn’t put up with Venom not being able to stay down so he got fed up and left. Will find scan for vs Juggs. He also apparently took a blow from the Hulk:

    img338.imageshack.us/f/venom3jl9zn1.jpg/

    “And once dante kills eddie the symbiote wont be able to give dante any trouble thus leaving dante as the winner”

    MacGargan is now Venom, not Brock. The only one that I believe separated Venom and his host was Carnage and I believe that was due to his symbiote being stronger as the only reason, not brute strength that could come from anyone. Hopefully a Spiderman expert can clarify on that one. ‘Venom’ is both the symbiote and it’s host, you have to destroy both to destroy Venom and/or Carnage.

    “once again go watch the intro of dmc 3 that raindrop feat puts his attack speed in the hyperspeed range”

    Look closely at them in the intro; they are standing in place while Dante’s moving this fast. Venom will not be standing in place for Dante to take whacks at him so sub-sonic it remains until shown that Dante can attack at a hypersonic speed while on the move.

  19. Soldier's Shadow January 4, 2011 at 9:47 pm -      #119

    Just read the flame heart part so that should allow him to safely hurt and eliminate Venom when he can lay a hurting on him.

    No matter, Spawn still solos in the end so long as his incarnation has powers.

  20. Based God January 4, 2011 at 9:56 pm -      #120

    “No matter, Spawn still solos in the end so long as his incarnation has powers.”

    i know i was just proving to you that venom can’t beat dante

  21. Based God January 4, 2011 at 9:58 pm -      #121

    go read post 17

    “Look closely at them in the intro; they are standing in place while Dante’s moving this fast. Venom will not be standing in place for Dante to take whacks at him so sub-sonic it remains until shown that Dante can attack at a hypersonic speed while on the move.”

    I was only telling you his combat speed is hyperspeed

    and please show me if venom can survive being cut in half… dante isn’t going to be hiring him with blunt attacks( punching and kicking) he’s going to be hitting him with piercing attacks (slicing stabbing) so please show me proof on how well venom will be doing against stuff like that

  22. Soldier's Shadow January 4, 2011 at 10:19 pm -      #122

    “i know i was just proving to you that venom can’t beat dante”

    No worries, bro. I was just stating the obvious with the Spawn thing.

    “I was only telling you his combat speed is hyperspeed”

    It is but he was still standing in place when fighting Vergil and Venom’s not going to be standing still for long for that to happen.

    As for the piercing sharp attacks, Venom took on Wolverine in an issue or two and that’s a bit self explanatory for sharp and piercing attacks. I’ll still try to find the scans though…

    Btw, how hot is the fire from the Fire Heart? If it’s not extreme heat like the fire from Ifrit, it won’t hurt Gargan as only extremely hot heat can do so now going by the info presented by Darkblade in Wolverine vs Dante.

  23. Based God January 4, 2011 at 10:33 pm -      #123

    and considering carnage got ripped apart by sentry an died (carnage is watt more powerful than venom) shows you that venom can’t survive decapitation or being sliced in two

  24. Soldier's Shadow January 4, 2011 at 10:48 pm -      #124

    @BG

    Big difference between Sentry and Dante though. Sentry is far stronger than Dante is and there’s no denying that. Much like Dante has a healing factor, so does Venom so decapitation would not be so easy though it’s still possible as is being sliced in two.

  25. Based God January 4, 2011 at 10:59 pm -      #125

    there’s a big difference between Dante and venom too. dante’s far stronger considering dante’s 100 ton class and venom only a puny 11 ton.. meaning Dante could give venom the same treatment sentry gave carnage

  26. Soldier's Shadow January 4, 2011 at 11:27 pm -      #126

    Venom, as of current incarnation, can lift 40 tons. Dante is not a class 100 as that’d put him on equal footing with the likes of Savage Hulk, Thor, Sentry and the list goes on. The little feat against the Savior isn’t even solid proof as it’s still debatable on what the statue was even made of. If anything, Dante’s a 65 ton or higher.

    Can Dante break Venom in two with sheer brute force like Sentry did? No because the amount of force Sentry can commit is far greater than Dante’s so the argument is null.

  27. Based God January 4, 2011 at 11:52 pm -      #127

    the savior is made of solid stone and Egnima J already calculated that Dante lifted over 50,000 ton when he lifted the savior’s dead weight and where did you get venom can lift 40 ton?? he’s classified as 11 ton at the marvel database

  28. Soldier's Shadow January 5, 2011 at 4:37 pm -      #128

    On what thread is Enigma’s post that says this?

    As for Venom’s strength, here you go; “Class 50; Gargan as Venom at his regular size is strong enough to lift 40 tons, but it seems his strength is however variable depending on his size and amount of muscle mass.”

    Gargan is current incarnation, not Brock who was able to lift 11 tons.

  29. Based God January 5, 2011 at 4:42 pm -      #129

    “On what thread is Enigma’s post that says this?”
    Wolverine vs Dante

    if gargan isnt lifting over 100 ton he gets ripped apart by Dante

  30. ka-tet19 September 19, 2012 at 2:35 pm -      #130

    well im about to pop my anti dante cherry. team two wins

  31. ka-tet19 September 19, 2012 at 3:43 pm -      #131

    did you guys know their is a fucking spawn cross over comic with sonic the hedgehog?

  32. Amm0vamp1r3 October 30, 2012 at 7:37 pm -      #132

    Hellboy isnt completly useless in this one.

  33. Richard Rider August 3, 2013 at 3:04 pm -      #133

    Spawn could probably solo depending on the version that is being used.

  34. Soldier's Shadow August 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm -      #134

    Hellboy not useless here? Being voiced by Ron Pearlman is the only thing that makes him relevant in this fight.

  35. Amm0vamp1r3 August 3, 2013 at 3:14 pm -      #135

    Lol I don’t really know what my thought was when I said that

  36. Commander Cross August 3, 2013 at 3:29 pm -      #136

    I’d say there might be a wee bit more to it than that, Shadow.
    In any case regardless, Who let the Overkill out!?

  37. renzo December 18, 2013 at 9:01 pm -      #137

    Dante automatically wins

    Good>Bad guys

  38. PrimusxPilus December 18, 2013 at 9:35 pm -      #138

    Lolno. Spawn is FTL.

  39. Jake_Uzumaki December 18, 2013 at 10:11 pm -      #139

    So much fail.
    Current Venom, aka Flash Thompson is a super hero not villain, he also uses guns and military gear on top of the powers of Venom.
    Spawn is a hero, a very dark hero who kills and slaughters his enemies and has hell based powers, but then again Dante can relate there can’t he?
    So aside from that fail comment about bad guys…which is PIS which is ignored anyway…which if you’d bother to read the site debate rules you’d know. then again why should I be surprised when you didn’t even read the rules.
    Plus as PrimusxPilus said…FTL Spawn.

  40. Jake_Uzumaki December 18, 2013 at 10:12 pm -      #140

    that should be didn’t even read the comics involving these two.

  41. Chuck inglish December 18, 2013 at 10:34 pm -      #141

    Spawn isn’t FTL. Where’d you get that from?

  42. Jake_Uzumaki December 19, 2013 at 2:23 am -      #142

    Well for sure I know one of his incarnations is, though I’m not sure which one it is or which one is in play here.

  43. renzo December 19, 2013 at 5:05 pm -      #143

    what?

    why hellboy?it should be Vergil and Dante

    if team one is the two, it will be an epic win for me

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