Druss the Legend Vs Conan the Barbarian

Druss the Legend Vs Conan the Barbarian

Here we a match with two fighters who are used to winning. While it might appear on the surface that Conan has the advantage, Druss has yet to be bested in single combat – so, who would win?

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122 Comments on "Druss the Legend Vs Conan the Barbarian"

  1. Blood Dancer December 23, 2010 at 8:01 am -      #101

    That remark was only made because YOU (you inbred whoreson) stated that the Katana had a greater reach. I had the decency of correcting an error induced remark made by me. Now, why don’t you go hang yourself or dunk your head in bleach?

  2. sukz December 23, 2010 at 8:14 am -      #102

    Stupid and ignorant people always resort to insults – especially as they are losing an articulate debate!

    lol as much as i have enjoyed verbally sparring with you I think i will let you pick up the dummy u just spat out and continue to live in babyland!

    So if i said u wore a nappy and shat urself every 2 hours u would agree with me? I think not! U just did not have a clue about wot u was talking about. And did not have the hindsight to check BEFORE u sent ur reply!!!

    Anyway nice chatting to u! Was a pleasure!!

  3. Jwlynas December 23, 2010 at 8:17 am -      #103

    I try not to be overly confrontational unless someone is unreasonably stupid/ignorant. You seem like my kind of guy, and I always appreciate a difference of opinion. Dancer is usually far more relaxed than this, but then as of late I suspect the sheer number of fools around has been wearing thin.

    Do try to keep that mostly polite tone (Calvin and hobbes style impersonations of idiocy aside) and you and em are just fine.

    As to the match, I agree for the most part. Its a hellishly difficult match to call. Annoyingly we rarely see Druss engage in any lengthy battles, or indeed in many axe-based duels. Sure, he punches people to the ground a lot, but his Duels tend to be more along the “Moron Challenges Druss, Moron dies on the first strike” variety.

    So I’m game for wondering who’d win between Gemmellian Characters. I don’t think this match garners enough attention to be awarded a… well, an award.

    So lets see.. Pagan? The guy i always picture as Denzel Washington ala Book of Eli/Wesley Snipes ala Blade 1?
    Would love to see it, would be an amazing match!

    Better yet, lets get every Axe-wielder in on the action. and Annanais While we’re there!

    Bison, Beltzer, Viruk, Druss, Rage… Oh the carnage…

  4. sukz December 23, 2010 at 8:26 am -      #104

    Blood dancer – I apologise if I have rubbed u up the wrong way. I will be the bigger man and take fault here.

    Truly I just want people who loved Gemmell like me to find other books to read that are almost as entertaining – Conan books are good reads. Also Peter V Brett (new author) has written 2 books that I found a really good read! not as fast paced as Gemmell but he is going into a different concept. David Eddings – Belgariad (5 books) more of a storyteller but has some fantastic characters!

    @Jwlynas An all out rumble – last mn standing with these characters wud be awesome! Lets add Dace to the equation!!!!!

  5. Blood Dancer December 23, 2010 at 8:27 am -      #105

    @Sukz

    good gracious……Let’s call a truce. It’s christmas and as of late everything seems to be slotting right into place in my life. Right girl, right muse, right novel. So…yeah. While I might come off as a jerk, I really am not as many here would attest. I just don’t like to be patronized.

    So..I apologize, I was rude.

  6. sukz December 23, 2010 at 8:31 am -      #106

    @ Blood Dancer- Thanks

    All – Any suggestions of a good novel? In the Gemmellian style out there?

  7. Blood Dancer December 23, 2010 at 8:35 am -      #107

    @Sukz

    Try George R.R. Martin. With Game of Thrones Tv Show scheduled for April, I say we introduce Gregor Clegane!

  8. sukz December 23, 2010 at 8:41 am -      #108

    Thanks – Just as a thought – A lot of Gemmells books are based on real life history – Ulric = Gengis Khan, Skeln Pass = Leonidas (300 spartans) vs Persian immortals etc etc Gregor Clegane – could he be The Moidart?

  9. Blood Dancer December 23, 2010 at 8:47 am -      #109

    Could be. There’s a medieval theme to Martin’s story. But if we do Introduce Clegane it will have to be after the Show Debuts otherwise it will be a fluke. Most pilers aren’t that much into reading and if they do they prefer futuristic settings. although SoT, WoT, Inheritance Cycle and LOTR seem to be fairly popular. On a lesser degree, Percy Jackson, Narnia, Potter. Other than that it’s Video games, comics, cartoons, movies and whatnot. We’ve even had Big Mac vs Whopper

  10. Jwlynas December 23, 2010 at 8:48 am -      #110

    If you’re looking for similar works, I’d recommend the following

    -Conn Iggulden
    -Bernard Cornwell
    -Megan Whalen Turner
    -Gav Thorpe
    -Joe Abercrombie

    Especially Joe Abercrombie

  11. sukz December 23, 2010 at 8:53 am -      #111

    Thanks all – Have a great xmas and new year!

  12. Blood Dancer December 23, 2010 at 9:18 am -      #112

    Aside from those tha Jwlynas has listed, I’d add John Marco. His is not my preferred take on Fantasy. Magic, warships which i cannot tell whether or not they are modern. Barbara Hambly is also good though I have only read one of her books.

  13. moeraw August 17, 2011 at 6:23 am -      #113

    I love both Gemmell and Howard, for their imagination and their writing prowess. I also equally love Druss and Conan. BUT!!!   Is there no one who remembers that Druss’ axe Snaga was demon possessed????

    The reason why Druss could not be killed or defeated in battle was because of the ’ENCHANTED – DEMON POSSESSED AXE’.  It wasn’t a battle wound that killed Druss either, it was a Poisoned Blade.

    Now…a battle between Conan and Druss???  I think a battle between these two warriors would NEVER happen.   WHY??  Because they each understand and recognise a warrior born, they may trade blows and gauge the others skills but I think mutual respect for the others prowess will win through.  They are intelligent warriors and not mindless killers.  At the end of a ‘training’ session they will both trade stories of their adventures to cupfuls of ventrian red and mead.

  14. EMOboy August 17, 2011 at 9:02 am -      #114

    “The reason why Druss could not be killed or defeated in battle was because of the ’ENCHANTED – DEMON POSSESSED AXE’.”
    The demon in the axe was exorcised when he was rescuing Rowena from the void and at that time he was 23-24 and had been fighting in the Ventrian war for over 6 years eventually becoming the emperors champion (he was known at the time as Druss the sender by the Ventrian’s) after the demon was exorcised it was just a very well made weapon.
    Between then and when he died at the age of 60 he constantly fought in wars around the world including the battle of Skeln pass earning titles like “the Axeman”, “Deathwalker”, “The Captain of the Axe”, “Silver Slayer” and finally earning the title “legend”.
     
    He even needed to sharped Snaga after every battle:
     
     
    For eight terrible days Skeln became a charnel house, littered with swelling corpses and the foul stench of putrefaction. Gorben threw legion after legion up into the pass, only to see them stumble back defeated and dejected. The dwindling band of defenders was held together by the indomitable courage of the black-garbed axeman, whose terrifying skill dismayed the Ventrians. Some said he was a demon, others a god of war. Old tales were recalled. The Chaos Warrior walked again in the stories told around Ventrian camp-fires. Only the Immortals stayed aloof from the fears. They knew it would fall to them to clear the pass, and they knew it would not be easy.
    On the eighth night Gorben at last gave in to the insistent demands of his generals. Time was running out. The way had to be taken tomorrow lest the Drenai army trap them in this cursed bay. The order was given and the Immortals honed their swords. At dawn they rose silently, forming their black and silver line across the stream, staring stonily ahead at the three hundred men who stood between them and the Sentran Plain. Tired were the Drenai, bone-weary and hollow-eyed. Abadai, the new general of the Immortals, walked forward and lifted his sword in silent salute to the Drenai, as was the Immortal custom. The blade swept down and the line moved forward. To the rear three drummers began the doleful marching beat, and the Immortals’ swords flashed into the air. Grim were the faces as the cream of Ventria’s army slowly marched towards the Drenai. Druss, bearing a shield now, watched the advance, his cold blue eyes showing no expression, his jaw set, his mouth a tight line. He stretched the muscles of his shoulders, arid took a deep breath. This was the test. This was the day of days. The spear-point of Gorben’s destiny against the resolution of the Drenai. He knew the Immortals were damned fine warriors, but they fought now for glory alone. The Drenai, on the other hand, were proud men, and sons of proud men, descended from a race of warriors. They were fighting for their homes, their wives, their sons, and sons yet unborn. For a free land and the right to make their own way, run their own lives, fulfil the destiny of a free race. Egel and Karnak had fought for this dream, and countless more like them down through the centuries. Behind the axeman, Earl Delnar watched the nearing enemy line. He was impressed by their discipline and, in a strangely detached way, found himself admiring them. He transferred his gaze to the axeman. Without him they could never have held this long. He was like the anchor of a ship in a storm, holding the prow into the wind, allowing it to ride clear and face the might of the elements without being broken upon the rocks or overturned by the power of the sea. Strong men drew courage from his presence. For he was a constant in a world of shifting change – a colossal force that could be trusted to endure. As the Immortals loomed ever nearer, Delnar could feel the fear spreading among the men. The line shifted as shields were gripped more firmly. The Earl smiled. Time for you to speak, Druss, he thought.
                   

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    With the instinct of a lifetime of war, Druss obliged. Raising his axe he bellowed at the advancing Immortals.
    ‘Come in and die, you whoresons! I am Druss and this is death!’ *


     
     
    The Immortals hurled themselves on the Drenai line, and the clash of steel on steel sounded above the insistent drums. Druss hammered Snaga into a bearded face, then sidestepped a murderous thrust, disembowelling his assailant. A spear cut his face, a sword-blade ripped a shallow wound in his shoulder. Forced back a pace, Druss dug his heel into the ground, his bloody axe slashing into the black and silver ranks before him.
    Slowly the weight of the Immortals forced back the Drenai line. A mighty blow to Druss’s shield split it down the middle. Hurling it from him, the axeman gripped Snaga with both hands, slashing a red swathe through the enemy. Anger turned to fury within him. Druss’s eyes blazed, power flooding his tired, aching muscles. The Drenai had been pushed back nearly twenty paces. Ten more and the pass widened. They would not be able to hold.
    Druss’s mouth stretched in a death’s-head grin. The line was bending like a bow on either side of him, but the axeman himself was immovable. The Immortals pushed towards him, but were cut down with consummate ease. Strength flowed through him. He began to laugh.
    It was a terrible sound, and it filled the veins of the enemy with ice. Druss lashed Snaga into the face of a bearded Immortal. The man was catapulted into his fellows. The axeman leapt forward, cleaving Snaga into the chest of the next warrior. Then he hammered left and right. Men fell back from his path, opening a space in the ranks. Bellowing his rage to the sky, Druss charged into the mass. Certak and Diagoras followed.
    It was suicidal, yet the Drenai formed a wedge, Druss at the head, and sheared into the Ventrians. The giant axeman was unstoppable. Warriors threw themselves at him from every side, but his axe flashed like quicksilver. A young soldier called Eericetes, only accepted into the Immortals a month before, saw Druss bearing down on him. Fear rose like bile in his throat. Dropping his sword he turned, pushing at the man behind him.
    ‘Back,’ he shouted. ‘Get back!’
    The men made way for him, and the cry was taken up by others, thinking it was an order from the officers.
    ‘Back! Back to the stream!’ The cry swept through the ranks and the Immortals turned, streaming towards the Ventrian camp.
                  

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    From his throne Gorben watched in horror as his men waded the shallow stream, disorganised and bewildered.
    His eyes flicked up to the pass, where the axeman stood waving Snaga in the air. Druss’s voice floated down to him, echoing from the crags. ‘Where is your legend now, you eastern sons of bitches?’ Abadai, blood streaming from a shallow cut in his forehead, approached the Emperor, dropping to his knees, head bowed.
    ‘How did it happen?’ demanded Gorben.
    ‘I don’t know, sire. One moment we were pushing them back, and then the axeman went mad, charging our line. We had them. We really had them. But somehow the cry went up to fall back, and then all was chaos.’

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    In the pass Druss swiftly honed the dulled blades of his axe.  ‘We beat the Immortals,’ said Diagoras, slapping Druss on the shoulder. ‘By all the gods in Missael, we beat the damned Immortals.’
    ‘They’ll be back, lad. And very soon. You’d better pray the army is moving at speed.’ With Snaga razor-edged once more, Druss looked to his wounds. The cut on his face stung like the devil, but the flow of blood had ceased. His shoulder was more of a problem, but he strapped it as best he could. If they survived the day, he would stitch it that night. There were several smaller cuts to his legs and arms but these had congealed and sealed themselves.

  15. EMOboy August 17, 2011 at 9:16 am -      #115

     
     
    But i am also a Conan fan and while i cannot find the book itself to get the exact event for you i do know that in Conan the Avenger while heading across the various kingdoms to rescue his new Queen he becomes a pirate again to gain passage closer to his goal, a younger pirate captain takes offense at all the many crew flocking to him because of his reputation and challenges him.
     
    The Pirate captain is said to be a master with the rapier and lightning fast and thinks he has a easy kill when conan draws out his long or broadsword (i cannot remember what one he was using but both are very heavy weapons compared to a rapier) , anyway to make a long story erm well less long conan literally fencing the guy one handed all the time smiling and enjoying himself so after the pirate starts tiring he draws a dagger with his free hand while still fencing and throws it at conan, conan easily plucks it out of the air with his free hand and”returns it” unfortunatly the pirate was not as good a catch and takes it pointy end first in the throat.
    Conan would have been between 45 and 50 at the time.
     
     
    So yea i love Druss stories but conan is no pussy especially in the books.

  16. moeraw August 17, 2011 at 7:11 pm -      #116

    @EMOboy

    The demon in the axe was exorcised when he was rescuing Rowena from the void and at that time he was 23-24 and had been fighting in the Ventrian war for over 6 years eventually becoming the emperors champion (he was known at the time as Druss the sender by the Ventrian’s) after the demon was exorcised it was just a very well made weapon.

    I agree, but an object even after having an enchantment removed or demon removed is no ordinary object.  That object has a ‘memory’ of power still attached to it, it will never be deemed as ‘normal’.

    Druss is a powerful man and is reknown for his fighting prowess.  But it is his fighting spirit that encourages men around him to ‘pull finger’ and fight.  It’s his indomnitable spirit that frightens people.  There’s nothing like having your back to a wall and nowhere to go.   What would Druss do???  Fight like a man and die standing or shrivel into a sniveling mess of a coward.  Ummmmm??? 

    Conan has ‘no morals’ to say of but more opportunistic.  He will rescue a ‘damsel in distress’ if she’s ripe for the ‘plucking’ and his  fighting spirit is more to the description of “I will bow to no one and I am the the maker of my fate’.

    Each one has leadership qualities that anyone will follow: – strength, success, luck, ambition (drive), dexterity and courage.  Even peeps in the modern age I think would follow mindlessly. 

  17. EMOboy August 18, 2011 at 10:25 am -      #117

    “I agree, but an object even after having an enchantment removed or demon removed is no ordinary object.  That object has a ‘memory’ of power still attached to it, it will never be deemed as ‘normal’.”
     
    This will require proving bud as i can recall no material in any of the books that support it.

  18. Blood Dancer August 29, 2011 at 9:25 pm -      #118

    “I agree, but an object even after having an enchantment removed or demon removed is no ordinary object.  That object has a ‘memory’ of power still attached to it, it will never be deemed as ‘normal’.”
     
    And Druss wouldn’t notice it? As far as I am aware, enchanted weapons on Gemmell’s stories have an effect on the users. Skilgannon himself was aware of the effect the swords had on him.
     
    Other than that, I am with emoboy. It’s speculation at best.

  19. al July 2, 2012 at 5:03 pm -      #119

    Good evening all

    My first post here.

    Much has been posted which I agree with but …… I think that there is a point missed (which might just mean that it has been made and I have not read it properly, apologies of so)

    Conan is a bully* and Druss exists to slapdown bullies. The Cimmerian will be sliced up in passing as Druss heads off to look at or for something else and dies unnoticed.

    * ‘what splutter gasp’ I hear. But he is. He takes what he wants from those who are physically weaker. He does good by accident whilst looking to enrich himself. Possibly one might make a case that Conan is at least loyal to his friends and companions.

  20. trikie August 5, 2012 at 7:54 pm -      #120

    Druss would say something like ” prepare to die laddie” and cleve Conan in two in one stroke his axe is Snaga the Blades of No Return so bye bye Conan

  21. mick the legend October 25, 2012 at 6:10 pm -      #121

    Yeah, sorry but Druss wins this one. EMOboy is right, the blades, once the demon was removed, became just blades. However they continued to possess magical qualities. This is evident in the fact that Druss had the axe for almost 40 years once it was exorcised and it never had a dent or mark on it. Also in the battle of Skeln, Druss reveals that he faced the Kahlith once again, this time without the demon possessed axe and was able to wound it a second time. No ordinary blade can wound such a creature, as quoted here:
    1st Chronicles of Druss the Legend. Page 276

    The Kalith of Numar
    The Chaos Beast, The Stalker, The Hound of the Invincible, whose skin no blade of man shall pierce. Where he walks, death follows.

    That’s just so I can clear everything up for Dancer and EMO. Yes it loses the ability to never go dull but it is still enchanted. It will never break or dent, and can still wound demons, unlike normal weapons.

    Druss wins this one guys.

  22. Amm0vamp1r3 October 25, 2012 at 6:13 pm -      #122

    Because his sword doesnt break?

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