Druss the Legend Vs Conan the Barbarian

Druss the Legend Vs Conan the Barbarian

Here we a match with two fighters who are used to winning. While it might appear on the surface that Conan has the advantage, Druss has yet to be bested in single combat – so, who would win?

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123 Comments on "Druss the Legend Vs Conan the Barbarian"

  1. kano547 April 3, 2009 at 3:59 am -      #1

    i dont know who druss is but he will be hard pressed to stand up to the cimmerian.btw i hate to be a nit-picker but this is in the sword fighters section but in both pics they’re wielding axes.

  2. Joe Brosnan April 3, 2009 at 6:30 am -      #2

    I think Druss will win this. He took out a whole army. Conan just killed a big snake in the film with Arnie. Victoire, Druss! Vous gagnerez!
    (French for: Victory, Druss! You will win!)

  3. admin April 3, 2009 at 10:28 am -      #3

    @kano547 – true the pics don’t have the using swords, but I was going with the notion that since they are melee weapons, that could fall into the Swordfighters category.

    But, if you look real close, both of them have a sword as attached to their belts…

  4. Cpt Olimar April 3, 2009 at 1:28 pm -      #4

    haha admin got you good Kano o_O

  5. monokid April 4, 2009 at 6:47 am -      #5

    Druss wins this fight. He’s the better fighter.

  6. Matapiojo April 16, 2009 at 7:08 am -      #6

    “haha admin got you good Kano o_O”

    Schooled

    Totally got what he deserved, hehehehe

  7. TheMountain April 22, 2009 at 4:08 pm -      #7

    Druss is the greatest warrior his world has ever known.
    Most people know what Conan has done, and they are some great feats indeed. But Conan has been beaten in single combat. The only person to be considered capable in Druss’ world died half way through the book.

    Conan’s greatest asset was his fighting skills, honed over decades of battle.

    Druss’ greatest asset was his fighting SPIRIT. He was certainly a deadly warrior, but he also had reserves of inner strenght that made Death itself hold a grudge.

    He’s fought demons, wizards, shamans, werebeasts, other great warriors, poision and even killed numerous opponents while having a heart attack.

    Druss is THE MAN…

    NUFF SAID

  8. kano547 April 25, 2009 at 6:59 pm -      #8

    @the mountain hm sounds pretty cool whats the names of the books that druss was in because i would like to read them also conan killed a dragon with one sword throw and mostly as an after thought be cause it was between him and a really hot chick somewhere i would not like to be even if i was in a baneblade

  9. monokid April 29, 2009 at 5:47 am -      #9

    @ Kano547
    The books i know of where Druss was in are: “The first chronicles of Druss the legend”, “Legend” and “The legend of deathwalker” (by David Gemmell)

  10. josh May 15, 2009 at 10:15 am -      #10

    idiots. to attack druss and his hhuge axe you must come into its range. Gemmel didnt call it Snaga the sender…The blades of no return for no reason.

    close fight but a sword up against an axe that hasnt gone blunt in 1000 years is going to leave a mark

  11. Blood Dancer May 20, 2009 at 3:04 pm -      #11

    Druss wins hands down. and if things got sticky skilgannon would probably jump in as he did during the fight with boranius but that’s 50 year-old Druss. If we’re talking about the one who raised Hell and Chaos to save his wife, well… Conan is dead before the fight even begins

  12. Jwlynas May 20, 2009 at 4:19 pm -      #12

    …How did I miss this. Druss the legend, Captain of the axe, Deathwalker, versus Conan the Barbarian!

    Druss wins, but by the Source, what epicness…

    Actually, this is one of those matches that could end in a draw. its often said that the only way to kill Druss is to get past his axe, and Snaga moves so fast that to do so is to invite death. But would Conan accept that, and would he live long enough after the fatal axe to the throat to take a stab at Druss?
    I’m betting not personally, but its a possibility.

  13. Bunta May 21, 2009 at 5:04 pm -      #13

    Druss has probably killed a hundred Conan’s… No one has ever bested Druss.

    Barbarians perish in history’s dust. Legends never die.

  14. Blood Dancer May 24, 2009 at 7:45 am -      #14

    Druss The Silver Slayer,Druss The Captain of the Axe Druss The Legend. The man is a living legend in his world even his fifties he still raised Chaos and made a mockery out of (much) warriors than him. The only one who could perhaps match his skill as a warrior was Olek Skilgannon another living legend in the drenai world albeit for different reasons than Druss

  15. Jwlynas May 24, 2009 at 10:25 am -      #15

    Ooh, another Gemmel fan. That makes a good few now. Hurrah for more of them appearing on this site! (Please?)

  16. eliot June 22, 2009 at 6:40 pm -      #16

    Eeesh. You chose a bad picture for Druss. You chose the crappy depiction of him on the American cover of the book. In the pic he looks like average size, but in the books he is alot bigger and has a bigger beard!!!!!!!

  17. Radkal July 22, 2009 at 9:57 pm -      #17

    DRUSS for sure! Conan is a wuss in comparison!

  18. Blood Dancer July 28, 2009 at 12:08 pm -      #18

    @Radkal

    respect for the cimmerian, he fills the imaginary world of many who are unknown to the wonderful drenai world that gemmell created. but, hey, i agree, The Captain of the Axe is just too much for Conan to Handle

  19. Brucifer July 31, 2009 at 6:40 pm -      #19

    When he stares, valleys tremble; When he walks, beasts are silent; When he speaks, mountains tumble; when he fights, armies crumble!

    Or in the words of Druss while he raises Snaga, ” I AM DRUSS AND THIS IS DEATH!”

  20. AHEM July 31, 2009 at 9:54 pm -      #20

    I don’t know either of these in very great detail, but by their character concepts I think Druss would win this. He seems by his very nature to be an inhumanly powerful warrior(especially if he can match Skilgannon), while Conan is simply a very powerful human barbarian.

  21. billy friedlander August 2, 2009 at 9:02 am -      #21

    Druss is the don I’ve called him a legend before chapter 2 in his book
    very touched by it conan is less realistic!!!

  22. StormRaiven August 14, 2009 at 3:08 pm -      #22

    Druss. Legend. Deathwalker. VS Conan. Barbarian. Bane of wizards.
    I am first and foremost a Druss man, but i should add, i grew up on tales of the indomitable Cimmerian as well. This would be one helluva fight to witness, IMO it would be very close, Druss and his axe against Conan, and his broadsword. As other posters have netioned, to come within reach of Snaga’s terrible blades, is to die. One would have to attack Druss in the sure knowledge that one WILL die. Conan has allso alot of merit to him, whenever a fight goes badly for him, his barbarian rage spurs him to greater efforts, yet he doesnt lose his head, he still keeps his cool. I think, that the two would fight each other to a standstill, basically kicking the smelly stuff out of each other, then burst out laughing about it and go get outrageusly drunk together, before going to pick a fight in some war somewhere. :)

  23. Steve September 1, 2009 at 1:44 am -      #23

    In the world of mortals, Conan is first class and would be great in any fight. But in the world of immortal legends, there is only one Druss. The man was 60+ years old and held back the greatest army the world ever seen. Legend killed multiple joinings when other heros might kill one or two. There are three things that Conan could not over come: One, his courage, strength and skill, two, his Indomitable spirit and three, his code. The discipline to keep the code made him something no one could conquer. Druss the Legend is the greatest warrior any fantasy series has ever known. I am sad that Mr. Gemmel will not be writing any more.

  24. Charles Lewis September 24, 2009 at 5:07 pm -      #24

    I think it would be a close call as well but in the end Druss would edge Conan out. Now when Howard created Conan he developed the blueprint of what a fantasy hero should be like. But in his own rite I think Gemmell fine tuned that formula,and Druss was the product. Here are two larger than life characters who I could say if I were in a battle facing a savage enemy and the odds were against us I would be more at ease with either one at my back. But this battle has to go to Druss because of his spirit alone. Skill and strength wise both are mighty and able warriors but it’s Druss’s spirit that gives him the edge over our brawny Cimmerian.

  25. Connor October 8, 2009 at 5:13 am -      #25

    Druss for sure! I mean the dude literally went to hell and back again, he’s got every he’s like the perfect hero, Hercules and Achilles couldn’t kill him, you want a real match p put Druss against Waylander, then you’d have a puzzle, I mean druss is great and all, and you could shoot himm with a shotgun and he’d still survive, but waylander fights to survive, which means he fights dirty. Druss is too honourable for that and he’s used to fighting either in single combat face to face with his enemies or on the battlefield.

    Waylander would just keep shooting him before he could come close. sorry bit off topic, but Druss would kill connan easily.

  26. JAZA October 11, 2009 at 4:57 pm -      #26

    Druss would win any day. He would beat conan in his sixties! never mind in his prime. I like conan… but druss is somthin’ else!

  27. Jwlynas October 17, 2009 at 1:53 pm -      #27

    I’m having a gemmel day, so I’ll add a little here too.

    If we’re going by BankGambling rules, the “current” verions of these heroes has to be used.

    Currently, Druss is in hell. Voluntarily.

    He’s not there because he’s to be tortured, he’s there fighting demons and the evil souls of the world who pass through and helping the souls of lesser heroes achieve heaven/paradise/gemmelian equivalent. Because in the afterlife its the srength of your soul rather than body that matters, Druss is if anything stronger here than even before. He’s tireless, because his willpower is almost limitless.

    I don’t know if thats the version we use in this match, but if it is… Conan is screwed.

    Otherwise, I think it’ll go to sudden death and luck.

    He has a nice house, and his wife is there.

  28. GE October 20, 2009 at 4:17 pm -      #28

    Druss is good But I would give it to Conan
    In one book Conan went up a magical sword made with the souls of six or eight (can’t remember) master swordsmen. Which made whoever held it have their skills. First encounter he held off one fella while not really trying to harm the person (though hard pressed). Second encounter a superhuman doppleganger made of clay had the sword which he defeted. Though I admit he really didn”t beat him sword to sword he held him off then tossed a brazier at him or something (and being made of clay and not wanting to melt) it through off his game and Conan tossed him over an edge into a arena or something with fire in it. Many other books he has been know for his skills also.

  29. wheylander October 30, 2009 at 7:25 pm -      #29

    druss would slay conan as easy as splitting a melon

    sorry but the man walked to dros delnoch at over 50 just to show the men there what true spirit is.

    best writer ever will be surely missed

  30. James November 6, 2009 at 10:05 am -      #30

    As they say in druss the legend book it isnt a matter of skill with druss…who ever is in the range oif the axe there dead plus conan doesnt have any weapons that are possesed by a demon :D

  31. Blood Dancer November 10, 2009 at 8:48 am -      #31

    “onan doesnt have any weapons that are possesed by a demon”

    snaga is no longer possesed by a demon. Druss says so in White Wolf, therefore by the time of Legend Snaga is just an axe. it pains me to say it though

  32. GE November 29, 2009 at 11:06 am -      #32

    Indeed. I believe he got the demon out in the book Legend of Deathwalker. So he didn’t have the demon in there long and even with it out the axe still has it’s qualitys (always sharp, no rust , etc ).
    But lets not forget Conan also is noted for his feats at a later age.

    one on one combat – Conan
    outnumbered – Druss
    luck – Conan

  33. GE November 29, 2009 at 11:10 am -      #33

    opps
    also

    unarmed – Druss maybe by a little

  34. Jwlynas December 3, 2009 at 9:43 am -      #34

    “snaga is no longer possesed by a demon. Druss says so in White Wolf, therefore by the time of Legend Snaga is just an axe. it pains me to say it though”

    It still doesn’t require sharpening, its as sharp as the day he found it, and it still cuts through bone and armor with just as much ease.

    Its ability to block spells is likely dropped, and the bloodlust isn’t as strong, but Snaga is still a very special axe indeed.

  35. Blood Dancer December 3, 2009 at 10:26 am -      #35

    “It still doesn’t require sharpening, its as sharp as the day he found it, and it still cuts through bone and armor with just as much ease.

    Its ability to block spells is likely dropped, and the bloodlust isn’t as strong, but Snaga is still a very special axe indeed.”

    i know, i didn’t say otherwise.

  36. Jwlynas December 3, 2009 at 10:32 am -      #36

    Ah, misinterpreted “snaga is no longer possesed by a demon. Druss says so in White Wolf, therefore by the time of Legend Snaga is just an axe. it pains me to say it though” to mean literally just an axe.

    No problem Dancer, sorry for the mix-up

  37. AHEM December 8, 2009 at 2:30 pm -      #37

    “He’s not there because he’s to be tortured, he’s there fighting demons and the evil souls of the world who pass through and helping the souls of lesser heroes achieve heaven/paradise/gemmelian equivalent. Because in the afterlife its the srength of your soul rather than body that matters, Druss is if anything stronger here than even before. He’s tireless, because his willpower is almost limitless.”

    There’s no way Conan could beat that. Could mortal weapons even hurt such a potent spiritual being?

  38. Blood Dancer December 9, 2009 at 3:54 pm -      #38

    “He’s not there because he’s to be tortured, he’s there fighting demons and the evil souls of the world who pass through and helping the souls of lesser heroes achieve heaven/paradise/gemmelian equivalent. Because in the afterlife its the srength of your soul rather than body that matters, Druss is if anything stronger here than even before. He’s tireless, because his willpower is almost limitless.”

    this lays it down, Druss for the award.

  39. Jwlynas December 9, 2009 at 4:09 pm -      #39

    +1 nomination for Druss.

    God, I hope a Gemmell Character actually gets to win a match here… poor Skilgannon.

  40. Blood Dancer December 9, 2009 at 8:23 pm -      #40

    “God, I hope a Gemmell Character actually gets to win a match here… poor Skilgannon.”

    don’t worry J, his time will come. let’s put him up against xena or some other character within his reach

  41. Jwlynas December 9, 2009 at 8:28 pm -      #41

    That would almost guarantee him victory… But would the fans care.

    Now, we throw him in against Wolverine and give him the Masamune… *Evil Cackle*

  42. Blood Dancer December 12, 2009 at 7:06 pm -      #42

    “That would almost guarantee him victory… But would the fans care.”

    they would.

  43. Steyn January 7, 2010 at 1:16 pm -      #43

    Anyone that has ever read any of the David Gemmel books which featured Druss would know that although Conan might be able to put up a good fight it would only be a matter of time until he joins the legions of warriors who have succumbed to Drusse’s axe. In the picture Druss is shown as a skinny warrior dressed in brown, where in Gemmel’s original descriptions he is always described as a powerfully built man in black & silver.

    Druss wins in 5 min without breaking a sweat.

  44. Lee16192 January 27, 2010 at 7:16 am -      #44

    Druss would win! He fought Nogusha who was a legend himself (and he was a swordsman like conan), he was as strong and powerful as druss just never had the fame, and druss beat him, if Nogusha’s blade wasn’t poisoned druss would of survived easily because it wasn’t a deep wound. And on top of that Druss still lived for days after gangrene had set in and should of killed him and still killed ten warriors!

  45. AHEM January 27, 2010 at 12:00 pm -      #45

    I third the nomination for Druss the Legend.

  46. Pat Tolkien February 2, 2010 at 11:53 pm -      #46

    i’ve read all the comments, and, although Conan WOULD put up an amazing fight, there’s no way Druss can’t be beaten within the range of its axe, heck, I would even say, without its axe (his willpower is just so strong), but give Conan some credits for having the guts to face Druss xD

  47. sir-enity February 6, 2010 at 5:52 am -      #47

    druss would win without a doubt….r.i.p david gemmell ur storytelling will be sorely missed ..but what they be like if they made an alliance …conan,druss,and slaine the horned god ….the trio would be unstoppable..

  48. Simon March 12, 2010 at 9:04 am -      #48

    Conan is a prince amongst warriors, but Druss is the empereor!

    Druss toppled empires and turned the tide of massive battles all by himself.

    Whereas Conan is primarily a thief and an adventurer Druss has spent his whole life as a professional soldier, most often in battles against outrageous odds!

    No other fighter compares to the big man. As others have said, even at sixty after a lengthy siege, he soundly beat the 2nd best warrior of his age who would probably outmatch Conan himself. At his best other warriors were at best an annoyance!

  49. Nay of the Ether March 13, 2010 at 11:36 pm -      #49

    There is no contest, Conan is a chump compared to Druss. The man is a walking god basically. I used to read Gemmel’s books so much the binding fell apart. Druss has beaten Lords of hell and beyond. The man trul is a Legend. Conan has done his share of worthy deeds, but Druss trumps them all.

  50. rafafrog March 16, 2010 at 5:42 pm -      #50

    sean connery should have played druss the legend in the nineties when he was still able to move around well

  51. Legend March 16, 2010 at 11:57 pm -      #51

    I guess most fo the Druss we speak abotu was when he was over 50 , he would still give Conan a run for his money, now if it were the young Druss who fought in the tournament against men bigger,stronger and faster and still came out victorius , then Conan woudld be dead before he even knew it .Don;t you think so laddies?

  52. Blood Dancer March 27, 2010 at 1:20 pm -      #52

    “I guess most fo the Druss we speak abotu was when he was over 50 , he would still give Conan a run for his money, now if it were the young Druss who fought in the tournament against men bigger,stronger and faster and still came out victorius , then Conan woudld be dead before he even knew it .Don;t you think so laddies?”

    Thing is, this is the last incarnation of Druss, which means it’s the 50 year old who made a mockery of warriors half his age.

    But all in all we all agree that Druss has this one in the bag.

  53. Jwlynas March 27, 2010 at 1:43 pm -      #53

    “sean connery should have played druss the legend in the nineties when he was still able to move around well”

    Please. Brian Blessed should play him in his later years. Can you imagine that guys booming voice shouting and waving Snaga while saying the immortal words “I AM DRUSS, AND THIS IS DEATH!”

  54. wide traveller April 18, 2010 at 8:14 am -      #54

    ok i am a druss fan and a conan fan having read all 36 of hrhowards conan books and evry david gemmel book i can get my hands on. conan in the series of book has defeated numerous demons and magi taken part in more wars than chronicle in drusses exploits and killed three gods from what i remember(it was three years ago that i read the series. he was born in battle( as the orriginal story goes) and was trained in all melee weapons not just a sword. his last book had him at age 66 when he destroyed a dark god physical incarnation befor he took off to conquer new lands( suposedly south america during the hyborian age). his exploits were long and detailed but in the end after reading them all a bit unrealistic (and repeatative).
    druss on the other hand felt real and as discribed welded an axe as fast as a sword
    in a straight up arena fight i say he would win. but saying that conan by his discription in his books would use his surrounding or even retreat and use other mean to take out and enimie so in a city or in the wilderness i say he would find a way to defeat druss. drusses code of honnor(a good one) would fail to conans cunning. but that would not stop druss and you know he would never give up.
    and interesting match would be druss vs wolverine
    i would like to see what people think of this post as it is the first time i have submitted one

  55. Blood Dancer April 20, 2010 at 8:08 pm -      #55

    “and interesting match would be druss vs wolverine”

    yeah…NO!!!

  56. VladimusPrime April 22, 2010 at 2:53 am -      #56

    Druss hands down.

    Conan is epic, however he isn’t on Druss’ level.
    i agree with Charles Lewis’ post, Conan was the rough mold of what made an epic hero. Gemmell, took that mold and carved out the details, gave it an axe, then breathed life into it in the kiln of High Fantasy.

    Druss wins.

    I love how Gemmell fans are rallying here.

  57. ALIFELESSORDINARY May 5, 2010 at 4:04 am -      #57

    Druss gots my vote …plus he had sieben to tell his chronicles and not some crazed mage who couldn’t get up in armor :)

  58. jwlynas May 5, 2010 at 10:45 am -      #58

    Admin, How about we get a BankGambling Award for Druss?

    Poor guys seen his mate Skilgannon get beaten, lets let him have this one, as most of the commenters seem to agree with,

    please?

  59. Blood Dancer May 7, 2010 at 2:52 am -      #59

    @Jwlynas

    I agree with you that Druss is due his award.

    While Skilgannon is sure to lose against Sir Dan and Rand Al’Thor, i firmly believe that he can best the Drow, even if it’s a phyrric victory.

  60. Blood Dancer August 2, 2010 at 10:05 am -      #60

    +1 Nomination for Druss the Legend

  61. widetraveller August 2, 2010 at 9:55 pm -      #61

    to blood dancer(nice pic by the way) the reason why i put foward druss vs wolverine is because in a marvel what if where all marvel characters went toe to toe as the universe ended the last two fighting were wolverine vs conan and guess who one with a broken sword. so if conan can beat wolverine why not druss with a magical demon axe?

  62. Blood Dancer August 3, 2010 at 11:18 am -      #62

    “so if conan can beat wolverine(…)”

    First of all, I don’t think that was canon. Wolverine would tear Conan limb from limb with relative ease.

    “why not druss with a magical demon axe?”

    Snaga no longer lodges a demon. Druss said so in White Wolf. I don’t recall the exact words but he said that he lost it when he entered the void.

    Here’s the passage:

    ” ‘She’ll be fine when she’s rested. What do you know of the Old Woman?’

    ‘Too much and too little,’ answered Skilgannon. ‘I have never believed that evil is linked to ugliness. I have known handsome men who are utterly without souls. But the Old Woman is as evil as she is ugly.’

    Druss sat silently for a moment. ‘Aye, I expect she is. But she also once helped me bring my wife back from the dead.’

    ‘I’ll wager she wanted something from you.’

    Druss nodded. ‘She wanted a demon that had been imprisoned in my axe. I later found out she had plans to transfer it into a sword she was making for Gorben.’

    ‘Did you give it to her?’

    ‘I would have. But the demon was cast from Snaga when I walked in the Void.’ ”

    It’s part of a conversation between Druss and Skilgannon

  63. jwlynas August 3, 2010 at 11:35 am -      #63

    This match has been won for Druss, so lets discuss wolverine/

    Depends if Snaga still has that magical sharpness. If it does, a case could be made to it cutting through Adamantium (Magic beats Technology… I think. Unless magic blades have already been used and failed against wolvey?)

  64. Blood Dancer August 3, 2010 at 11:49 am -      #64

    @Jwlynas

    I remember reading an issue back in 2002/2003(?) in which some creatures that were coming out of portals or gates from around world had magic infused claws that slowed Wolverine’s healing factor. As for cutting through adamantium, I’d wager for either Skilgannon, Boranius or Decado but I doubt it. I’m not saying that Druss can’t, but without demon the only traits that Snaga keeps are its sturdiness and sharpness.

  65. Levi August 25, 2010 at 4:54 pm -      #65

    Druss is yes one badass mofo, but nobody is really giving conan his credit,
    Conan slayer of men- demons – Gods – born on the battlefield (literately born on the battlefield) master of many fighting techniques – good with any weapon – fights in the ranks or as the commander – won battles against odds of 10 to 1 – won countless wars and campaigns – traveled into demensions – defeated the greatest evil sorcerers in the world – willing to learn new things – able to survive in the worst conditions – king of thieves – becomes king of the greatest empire by his own hand – defends his kingdom from many surrounding enemies…. and more lol. so lets give Conan some more credit, i think it would be a damn good fight, pretty even.

  66. Levi August 25, 2010 at 5:36 pm -      #66

    i agree with stormraven they would fight for a while, Druss with the edge, but they would pry get along and go settle it over a pint lol, tell each other tales of there adventures, and perhaps go crush some enemies. lol

  67. Blood Dancer August 29, 2010 at 6:40 am -      #67

    Druss has slain men, fought a demon, went into the void to ge his beloves, led the charge at Skeln Pass, held Dros Delnoch against the horde….so yeah, aside from the slaying of a god (which shouldn’t be one to begin with since he/she can die) and having his own kingdom, Druss has doen everything that Conan has.

    But allow me:

    “Conan slayer of men”

    – So many have fallen to Druss and his axe.

    “demons”

    – Druss has fought a demon too, matter of fact his axe held a demon in it.

    “born on the battlefield (literately born on the battlefield) master of many fighting techniques”

    – Druss was born a farmboy and with no formal combat training killed five mercenaries, if we are to take in to Gemmel’s lost short story.

    “good with any weapon”

    – All Druss needs is Snaga the Sender

    “fights in the ranks or as the commander”

    – Druss is the vanguard itself, to unleash him unto an enemy is to unleash death itself.

    “won battles against odds of 10 to 1″

    – At the battle os Skeln Pass, the Drenai were outnumbered ten or maybe 20 to one.

    Passage from White Wolf:

    ” ‘I still dream of it,’ said Naslyn, after a while. ‘It was one of those impossible moments where, when you replay it in your mind, you are convinced the outcome will be different.’ He turned towards Skilgannon.
    ‘We couldn’t lose, Lantern. We were the best. Not only that but we outnumbered the enemy ten – perhaps twenty – to one. There was no way they could stand against us. No way.’
    ‘The Drenai are fine warriors, they say.’

    ‘Aye, they are,’ snapped Naslyn. ‘But that’s not why they won. Three men were responsible for our downfall that day. And the odds against what happened are so enormous they are incalculable. The first was Gorben, bless him. I loved that man – even though the madness was on him at the end. We had taken losses in the eastern battles and he promoted fresh recruits to our ranks. One of these was a young soldier named Eericetes – may his soul be cursed to wander for eternity, the coward.’ He fell silent and stared out at the silhouetted mountains.

    ‘Who was the third?’ asked Skilgannon, though he knew the answer.

    ‘The Silver Slayer. Druss. They call him Druss the Legend now. Man, but he earned it that day. We struck their line like the hammer of Heaven. It buckled and damn near broke. And then just as victory was in our grasp . ..’ Naslyn shook his head in remembered disbelief ‘.. . Druss charged. One man, Lantern. One man with an axe. It was the pivotal moment. He was unstoppable. The axe blade clove into
    our ranks and men fell. He couldn’t have stood for long. No one man could. But then the coward Eericetes threw down his shield and ran. Around him other new recruits panicked and did the same.
    Within a dozen heartbeats the line broke and we were all retreating. Unbelievable. We were the Immortals, Lantern. We didn’t run. The shame of it burns like fire in my heart.’ ”

    “won countless wars and campaigns”

    – Druss’s life is war itself.

    “traveled into demensions”

    – Went into the Void(Hell) to get his beloved Rowena back.

    “willing to learn new things”

    – Not much of a feat if you ask me. Human always want to learn new things.

    “able to survive in the worst conditions”

    – Druss claims that he wasn’t strong enough to live in his farm and that’s why he sets out to war.

    “king of thieves”

    – Another passage: “I am Druss. Sometimes called Captain of the Axe. In Ventria they call me Druss the Sender. In Vagria I am merely the Axeman. To the Nadir I am Deathwalker. In Lentria I am the Silver Slayer. But who are you? You dung-eating lumps of offal! Who the hell are you? I have a mind to set an example today. I have a mind to cut the fat from this ill-fated fortress.”

    “defends his kingdom from many surrounding enemies”

    – Druss was 60/70 if I am not wrong when he helped defend Dros Delnoch against the Nadir horde. He died but he was hailed has a true hero by both parts.

    All said and done Druss the Legend is a force of nature incarnate

  68. jwlynas August 29, 2010 at 7:50 am -      #68

    He was early 60’s. He’d been moving from war to war since he was 16-17, and Dros Delnoch was in his 45th year of fighting.

    Plus, if we’re going with most recent incarnation, that’d be Druss, with all his millenia of fighting experience from living in the void, in his cloned self’s body.

  69. Blood Dancer August 29, 2010 at 8:08 am -      #69

    @Jwlynas

    But J, the only time Druss truly returned to his cloned body (Harad) was in that final battle in which he rallied the troops and went on to slaughter the Eternals army of hybrids and men.

  70. jwlynas August 29, 2010 at 9:13 am -      #70

    Harad, that was the name!

    While true, its still the most recent incarnation. Spirit Druss is the most recent Druss, but having Conan fight a non-corporeal being would be harsh. That said, Conan “Dying” and being sent to the void to fight the Drenai worlds greatest warrior, Druss, is a hilariously fun idea, which should be fanfic’ed immediately, if not sooner.

  71. Blood Dancer August 29, 2010 at 9:16 am -      #71

    So it’s Conan up against the Spirit of Druss incarnate in a 22 year old body (Druss’s own in actuality) and add to that the experience he gained from a millenia of fighting demons in Hell….yeah, Conan is screwed, no matter how many feats people list.

  72. Blood Dancer September 5, 2010 at 9:28 pm -      #72

    Druss for the FP award

  73. The Mountain October 29, 2010 at 12:01 pm -      #73

    Druss vs. Wolverine
    Nothing cuts adamantium, at all. Marvel succeeded in making somethng as tough as Superman.

    For all of Druss’ toughness, Wolverine can match and surpass as he never truly tires. In the 90’s he was forced to fight non-stop for well over a day, continuously.

    I love Druss, but he cant beat Wolvy. There are few melee characters that can striaght up. Druss would take a huge hunk out the mutant, but you cant sever his head, or rupture blood vessels before they close.

    Druss would tire eventually, and loose.

  74. EMOboy October 29, 2010 at 1:51 pm -      #74

    Better image of Druss:

    digilander.libero.it/9999dgl/Druss_file/Druss2.jpg

    Druss beats Conan as he is just too deadly.

    The only warrior i can think of who could kill Druss in a face to face fight in his prime and from the same world is Decado the ice killer and he would die in the process.

    There is some evidence from the books that Druss is the decendant of a human who had joining magic used on him just like waylander was (revealed in “hero in shadows), his family history certainly seems to support it. His oldest ancestor we know of is Angel (or Old-hard-to-kill as the nadir call him) and one of the psychic sisters that waylander rescued.

  75. Blood Dancer October 30, 2010 at 3:29 am -      #75

    Soooo…..

    +1 for Druss the Legend?

  76. nathan November 5, 2010 at 10:31 am -      #76

    Conan would win.
    Firstly, lots of people posting don’t seem to know very much about either character or have based their view of conan on the 1982 arnie film. I loved the film but that isn’t a fair picture of the conan from the stories.

    I’ve read all the conan stories and all the druss books.

    Druss is a simple man who really just wants a quiet life and if no-one upsets him he won’t bother anyone. Of course, he happens to be an incredible warrior. He has three big adventures and hands out great steaming piles of ass kicking in each one.

    Conan is the warrior born – there’s no poxy quest to avenge his family – he’s in it for the glory and is bloodthirsty to a fault. He has many many adventures and his agility, strength and ferociousness are described in near superhuman terms. He’s taken on elder gods and swum oceans.

    Both Gemmel and Howard wrote their characters to be the hardest thing since sliced bread and I love them both. However, the fact remains my mum as never heard of druss but everyone in the English speaking world know about conan, nevermind the film.

    On sheer notoriety and amount of different adventures it’s conan. He”s the orginal big bad barbarian, he defined the genre Gemmel adopted and he’s the hardest of all time.

  77. nathan November 5, 2010 at 10:34 am -      #77

    PS –

    No-one ever killed Conan.

  78. Blood Dancer November 5, 2010 at 11:14 am -      #78

    “However, the fact remains my mum as never heard of druss but everyone in the English speaking world know about conan, nevermind the film.”

    Appeal to popularity fallacy… also, I am Portuguese and I have read Gemmell’s works? How’s that for renown?

  79. Jwlynas November 5, 2010 at 12:42 pm -      #79

    Everyone in the free world knows who Arthur Dent is as well, are you telling me he could beat Conan and Druss?

    Everyone knows who Bill gates is, and even I could take him down. Fame does not necessitate skill of arms. Conan, amazing though he is, and yes its still is because as you rightly say, he never died, didn’t actually accomplish the same sort of victories as druss did. Conan was faced with some twelve men and knew he was destined for death (Phoenix on the Sword, Pg 37) and was saved through luck, rather than skill. He still came closer to death than Druss ever was between his learning to fight and his heart attacks (Plural) at Dros Delnoch.

  80. Blood Dancer November 5, 2010 at 1:11 pm -      #80

    In Legend Druss was the only one the Nadir feared…just saying.

  81. Jwlynas November 5, 2010 at 2:47 pm -      #81

    And in Deathwalker he was sent, for the second time, into the depths of the underworld to face off against demons, with only three others by his side. He stood with the father of the Nadir people and gained the respect and fear of the future leader of the entire race.

    He fought a man powered by insanity and Druss’s own magical axe, and beat him handily, even after having been imprisoned for years and nigh-withered.

    Druss is the very personification of inhuman endurance.

  82. Blood Dancer November 5, 2010 at 2:55 pm -      #82

    “Druss is the very personification of inhuman endurance.”

    Druss, like Skilgannon, is a force of nature incarnate.

  83. Ging November 10, 2010 at 11:44 am -      #83

    druss would have defeated connan of that i have no doubt aint read all da posts yet but few things ! snaga even with out demonic possesion is a little more than “just a axe ” as some1 qouted 2 wolveriene has not got adamantium and hasnt had 4 many years (i knw they kinda restarded alot of marvel but tht not the point) oh and most importantly back to the whole point of thread connan was trained and was mighty indeed druss was born a warrior the grandson of a legend who became a monster druss had unnatural senses he saw the battle almost as in slow motion i truely think the idea of these 2 battlein is epic but a no brainer connan like the nadir barbarians would fall under snagas might!!

  84. Blood Dancer November 12, 2010 at 10:01 am -      #84

    @Ging

    Read posts 31, 34, 35 and 36, boy. Don’t spit non-sense.

    And second Wolverine has got his adamantium coating back…do your research before patronizing.

  85. sukz December 22, 2010 at 1:19 pm -      #85

    I am a huge Gemmell fan. Especially Druss but a lot of the posts have absolutely no idea of who or what Conan is! If you did then u would not believe that the fight would be so simple!!! Conan also is a force of nature! He battled in every known kingdom of his world – Created as many legends as druss, Killed great warriors, evil magicians, werebeasts etc and fought his way to become athe king of the mightiest western nation of his day. In conan of Aquilonia he was also an old man but he travelled the length of the world fighting various evil powers and winning along the way. He does not know defeat, even in chains he still believes that he will succeed.

    So for anyone to say Druss hands down hs not got a clue as Conan has never lost either. Druss is just Gemmells version of Conan. Conan Is as strong and inhumanely fast as Druss with the same indomitable will. U say Conan would have to come in range of Drusses Blades and therefore definite death … it could be argued that Druss would have the same problem – Conan also uses Axes and he is proficeint in many many weapons! Some one with a broadsword and greater strength and speed would easily beat an axeman – otherwise in history the armies of the world would all be axemen!! Have u heard of an army or a legion of axemen in the worlds greatest armies in anceint history? Macedonian, Persian, Roman, mongul, Hun? So please wake up and smell the coffee!!!

    The fight would probably go like this – Conan swings his mighty broadsword, Snaga comes up like quicksilver blocking the blade witha a mighty crash, sparks fly. Druss delivers a counter act but is met by the barbarians broadsword. There is no budge in either fighter and they look at each other with grudging respect.

    In my opinion they would both cancel each other out and victory if there was one would be strictly down to bad luck…a slip on uneven ground etc!

    And remember I am a Huge Druss fan – He is my all time favourite ut this is down to Gemmells writing style! I grw up on reading Conan and believe me if you all read his books u wud realise it is a much closer match than ya all think!

  86. Blood Dancer December 22, 2010 at 2:34 pm -      #86

    Druss has far more experience than Conan. We’re using the most recent incarnation. Druss’s would be when he takes over Harad’s body in the battle against The Eternal’s army. As for your warfare example think on this. Back in the 13th Nuno Alvares Pereira led 6000 portuguese against 30000 spaniards and won. Does that mean that every nation in the world should have fought the spaniards with just a small force? Doubt it. Another example of portuguese badassery. We steamrolled the japanese, and their mighty katanas, with rapiers and muskets. Did the japanese adopt the rapiers? No. The whole point of the axe argument is range. Conan has a sword and Druss has Snaga therefore Conan would have to get close and that means death. If decides to hurl the sword, Druss can just parry it. If did that to an arrow, he can do it to a sword.

  87. Jwlynas December 22, 2010 at 4:19 pm -      #87

    “In my opinion they would both cancel each other out and victory if there was one would be strictly down to bad luck…a slip on uneven ground etc!”

    I’d go with that to be honest. but if I have to pick a person to win, I’m going to go with the guy whose spent his entire life fighting with only axe and fists, rather than the guys who diversifies.

  88. sukz December 22, 2010 at 4:30 pm -      #88

    So you are arguing with imperical historic evidence? Simple facts – Axemen do not feature in any historic army simply for the fact that it was not a great weapon! Your example has absolutely no relevance to the point! Against a trained warrior of equal strength and speed the swordsman would always win! Far more variations of use and killing ability!

    Also The reach arguement is totally spurios – It suggests that a bum with a longer reaching axe could kill a skilled swordsman! Therefore Harad would easily kill Skilgannon? I think not!!!

    I think the muskets may have been the reason why the portugese won (something to do with long range?) Dont think even Druss, as much as I love him, could stand against a musket!!! And the Japanese did adopt the muskets so once again ur arguement holds no water!

    Also remember Conan used an axe, spear, broadsword and a bastard sword (far more reach than an axe). The question has always been who’s strength of will is stronger because physically they are equally matched. And even on will on paper they are evenly matched. So a draw is the most likely scenario.

    BTW getting into range does not necessary mean death! Conan is strong and fast enough to parry or block druss’s strike with snaga. Just as druss is strong and fast enough to do the same to conan’s strikes. Like Druss, Conan uses brute strength to power through his enemies therefore mortal men’s blocks are swatted away as easily as a childs!

    Both are legends in their own rights. I do suggest that you read conan books tho because if you liked Druss then you will probably like Conan. Gemmells writing style gives you more affiliation with druss’s character and he has some classic lines that leaves goose bumps on you but some of the conan books are quite good.

    I always loved the line in Legend when Druss was trying to convince some run aways to go back to dros delnoch when one of the guys he had a wrestling match with draws his sword….

    Dorian attaked!
    And died.

  89. sukz December 22, 2010 at 4:37 pm -      #89

    And try reading the conan comics – then u will understand that conan is also desribed as near enuff invincible killing machine!

  90. Jwlynas December 22, 2010 at 5:24 pm -      #90

    “Simple facts – Axemen do not feature in any historic army simply for the fact that it was not a great weapon!”

    Simple facts, they really do. The Francisca was a trademark weapon for the franks for centuries, and numerous nations have used them as throwing weapons and anti-plate armour weapons due to their far better penetrative power when compared to swords.

    Hell, Richard the Lionheart was famed for his Battleaxe.

    The reason its not quite as well used as the sword is because its not a great group weapon. The necessary swing, coupled with its relative lack of stabbing capability makes it a dangerous weapon to use in a shield wall, and that formation dominated most of the early worlds wars, hence Roman domination of “lesser” tribes despite having generally less impressive physics and arguably less individual skill.

    However, one on one an Axe is a deadly weapon. Its far harder to block than a sword due to its heavier blows (the majority of the weight being in the axe head means a far heavier blow when compared to a sword made from a similar amount of metal) but in the hands of someone who, for example, wielded it their entire lives, boy to man, was no slower and, due to the nature of force, was a far better weapon at slamming through armour.

  91. Blood Dancer December 23, 2010 at 5:08 am -      #91

    “I think the muskets may have been the reason why the portugese won (something to do with long range?) ”

    I believe I know my country’s history better. The muskets played a great deal yes, but when the samurai came close it was up to the main-gauche and the rapiers, no more no less. And we still trounced them. And the point was, our fighting style was far superior and they stuck with theirs.

    “Therefore Harad would easily kill Skilgannon? I think not!!!”

    With Druss inhabbiting his body? Yes, Harad could kill Skilgannon. Conan, on the other hand, would die. And Skilgannon would trounce Conan any day of the year.

    “BTW getting into range does not necessary mean death! Conan is strong and fast enough to parry or block druss’s strike with snaga. Just as druss is strong and fast enough to do the same to conan’s strikes. Like Druss, Conan uses brute strength to power through his enemies therefore mortal men’s blocks are swatted away as easily as a childs!”

    That just shows how stupid and ignorant you are. An axe blow carries for more strength behind it, Conan parrying it would result in him losing his sword and giving Druss the chance to Shoulder-Charge him.

    Shut up and go home.

  92. sukz December 23, 2010 at 6:12 am -      #92

    Durr there is no medicine for ignorance and stupidity! U know nothing about Conan but are still willing to make sweeping statements. I guess next u are gonna suggest that an axe would be a good tool for a brain surgeon!

    Before u say something then learn something about the subject you speak of!

    First off Conan Is a bigger, stronger, quicker and more highly trained version of Skillganon – if we base it on the charachters depicted in the books! He was trained by the grandmasters of many nations in a Gladiator camp. Therefore he was training all the time and not for short times with a master as Skillganon!

    He was also the king of the theives – which shows his dexterity and the fact that he was second to none in everything he tried!

    You talk about Franks in comparison to Greeks, Romans, Persians, monguls?!? PLEASE! And get ur facts right!! The Frank carried a sword, shield and 1 axe. The axe being short handled and was used as a throwing weapon to shatter shields! Look it up sunshine – its clearly written in numerous sources!

    U r talking about getting in range of a heavier and longer weapon as basically signing ur death warrant but in the same breath u talk about how the rapier and fighting style being better than the katana! DURRR smaller weapon but fighting style wins?!?

    An axe man is weilding a heavier weapon and having to use a wide arc swing whereas a swordsman can kill with a thrust! Simple physics again – travelling a shorter distance takes far less time and is more effective!

    I guess u will try and argue this as well – before u do then consider boxing and its development. 2 equally sized opponents with the same speed – u r suggesting that the boxer that attack with a jab against an opponent that only uses a haymaker of a hook can not land a jab without getting hit? TOTAL NONSENSE!!!!

    Also u r not considering the nuances of 1 on 1 battle – a swordsman can lead with a feint – axeman swings and misses leaving himself open! Just 1 technique (hence the success of the rapier which in essence was a strecthed nitting needle against heavier longer blah blah weapons)

    Anyway I dont have time to argue with someone who has no knowledge about a topic and uses arguements that are contradictory.

    Simply put – based on being a fan of BOTH parties and having read ALL the books by David Gemmell, R E Howard, Le Sprague de Camp and Robert Jordan (both who also wrote Coan novels) the story of Druss v Conan would go:

    Hand to hand – DRAW
    Axe to Axe – DRUSS WINS
    Sword to Sword – CONAN WINS
    Axe to Sword – DRAW

    My last comment as I really have better things to do than talk to someone with no knowledge on this topic and who doesnt have the capacity or willingness to want to learn!

  93. Blood Dancer December 23, 2010 at 6:23 am -      #93

    “U r talking about getting in range of a heavier and longer weapon as basically signing ur death warrant but in the same breath u talk about how the rapier and fighting style being better than the katana! DURRR smaller weapon but fighting style wins?!?”

    You ass. The fighting style was obviously superior otherwise we wouldn’t have won. Plus the range advantage that the Katana has is not that great and both weapons were clearly best suited for cqc.

  94. Jwlynas December 23, 2010 at 6:42 am -      #94

    …You know both characters well, and then claim Druss spent time training with Skilgannon?

    Druss was already the legend amongst men he ended up as by time he’d met skilgannon, and they never duelled. Druss was somewhat of a surrogate father to skilgannon for the very short time they knew one another, but no-one had any doubt about who would win that occasion.

    Yes, in real life, a swordsmaster will beat an axeman handily. But in the real world, no-one would be able to kill a 20-30ft giant lizard by throwing a sword at it.

    In the Gemmellverse on the other hand, Druss is frequently stated to be faster than any man his size should really be. He’s won duels against many men, some of them half-wits too in love with their own legend, but others Masters of their art.

    Heck, when he was 60-70 he duelled the Nadir Champion. A people numbering in the millions, all with serious love for war, and he beat their Champion while weakened from serious heart defects, and having been poisoned.

    I’m not saying Conan isn’t a great warrior, he’s amazing. I’m saying that its Druss’s whole schtick to beat men like this. See Post 12 for my basic view of this match.

    Now, if you want to actually teach me something, why don’t we adopt the idea here thats starting to take off elsewhere on the board. Cite me some proof, I’ll do the same, and this match can be called due to evidence. Sounds good?
    With the reams and reams of stuff written about conan, you should do just fine on that, no?

    (And as an aside, I was reminded of an argument along the lines of “Conan never doed, Druss did” some time ago. Lets be fair, Druss was seeking death. He was too old for a man of hs age, and everyone he’d ever cared about was long dead. He’d wandered off like Conan, but Death wouldn’t claim him.So he went on one last adventure, one sure to end his life)

  95. Blood Dancer December 23, 2010 at 7:03 am -      #95

    SCratch what I said. The Rapier did have the range advantage as your average Rapier was a meter long in length whereas Katanas ranged from 60 cm to some 75. The Nodachi on the other hand was longer than the rapier.

  96. sukz December 23, 2010 at 7:16 am -      #96

    @Jwlynas its good to hear from a non aggressive person ;)

    I think u may have misread me. I was talking about Conan’s training with grandmasters of different nations in a gladiator camp(therefore all day) whereas Skillganon trained with Malanek after doing other studies etc.

    Conan was also much faster than a man his size should be. Druss was 60 when he died btw. As the seer in the first chronicles of Druss the legend told him. When he first met Sieben the poet. The source priest said he would die beneath the gates in the fourth year of the Leopard which Sieben said was 43 years away. Druss was 17/18 at the time.

    I would suggest reading Conan of Aquilonia to understand how good Conan was – many people dont realise that he was the chosen warrior/defender of the light (by the good gods of that world) aginst the evil powers/gods. Even at a ripe old age he was indomitable facing and destroying the greatest magicians and warriors of that age.

    As I said I absolutely love Gemmell and most especially Druss. My favourite hero of all time – I just wanted people to understand that Conan in the writing of R E Howard is technically the same as Druss in all ways – Speed, strength and even stare!

    My heart would say Druss wins but my mind says that on paper it is too difficult to call.

    However I do say that Pagan may have been a good fight for Druss – not sure ur views on this? (colleague of Tenaka Khan – Black dude that killed tons of Joinings by himself and shocking Annanais!) And would the original Decado have beaten Skillganon?

  97. Blood Dancer December 23, 2010 at 7:36 am -      #97

    No…….the Gregor Clegan might be good against Druss.

  98. sukz December 23, 2010 at 7:37 am -      #98

    LOL Blooddancer #93 and #95

    My point exactly – u cant even get ur own facts right!!!

    But hey whateva floats ur boat mate!

    As I said b4 Druss is my all time favourite but that does not change the facts – so please read some conan novels coz u may enjoy them!

    For all fantasy fans another good author is Peter V Brett. Well worth the read….Still trying to fill the gap that the loss of Gemmell has left!

  99. Blood Dancer December 23, 2010 at 7:45 am -      #99

    @Sukz

    I did get my facts right in post 95, you ass. You were the one who originally claimed the Katana was longer and I just countered that with my people’s superior fighting prowess. However, the Katana has a shorter range than the rapiers and yet the samurai (who are supposedly the greatest history has to offer) fell to them.

  100. sukz December 23, 2010 at 7:53 am -      #100

    OK mate woteva floats ur boat! u obviously googled it after u made ur statement on #93!

    Your words:

    “Plus the range advantage that the Katana has is not that great and both weapons were clearly best suited for cqc”

    You really r making urself look intelligent! Good on ya!

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