Green Arrow Vs The Punisher

Green Arrow Vs The Punisher

Please welcome Green Arrow making his first official appearance on this site, as I don’t know if he’ll like his stay. Despite his powers, I’m not sure how well of a chance he stands against Frank Castle…

I think it’s the Punisher’s match to lose – what do you think?

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46 Comments on "Green Arrow Vs The Punisher"

  1. Matapiojo March 31, 2009 at 7:31 am -      #1

    Nice match.

    This is a tough one for me to decide outright. I think Green Arrow has the superior skill, but Castle is far more ruthless and has access to more devastating armament. Hmmmmmm, tough.

  2. monokid March 31, 2009 at 9:05 am -      #2

    While punisher may have access to more devastating armament, GA makes up for that with accuracy and his trickarrows (wich also includes explosives etc.). So for ranged i’ll have to go for GA.

    As for meleerange, Punisher is a master of martial arts (so i hear) while GA is an expert in swords and had training in martial arts also.
    My vote would go to GA again.

  3. Rob (Expertimp) March 31, 2009 at 11:59 am -      #3

    Yeah this is a tough match up. Green Arrow is very tough with his abilities and long range attacks. But if The Punisher would make it close range or depending on his weapons he has on him he could really turn the tables in his favor. I would have to go with Green Arrow though because I just don’t see Castle being prepared for his attacks..

    Admin – There should always be Place, knowledge of battle, and weapons at disposal defined in each battle.. if not it leaves a lot of things up for chance depending on the battle.

    WINNER BY ARROW THROUGH THE A$$: Green Arrow

  4. admin March 31, 2009 at 12:03 pm -      #4

    @Rob (Expertimp) – Some matches are more defined by choice. Most times the matches are open-ended since placing characters in one environment might favor one over the other in that particular match. Just as there are discussions now for the lack of a “battle setting” I think the same would be true the other way around as well.

    My suggestion is that for matches with specific conditions, post them in the Battle Requests section.

  5. Matapiojo March 31, 2009 at 12:41 pm -      #5

    Im agree, there is no reason for matches to be pidgeonholed by determining parameters all the time. I like the fight being open because it gives maximum potential for each side of the fight to get creative with their arguments.

    That said, I don’t see what would be the problem with re-posting previous fights with new outlines in the scenario. There is no reason why we couldn’t see a GA vs Punisher fight again. Maybe next time around, they each have access exclusively to the other’s weapon, or they are both blind-folded, or whatever else you can come up with.

    There are two places for you to suggest fights of that nature. Either slap them on the Battle Requests and let admin decide which is best for him to post, or we can create a new section in the forums for you to post fight alterations.

    I think the Forums might be a great location for this sort of endeavor. For example, you could have another of our infamous Ghost Rider vs Spawn topic. In there you can set a new stage where the fight takes place in a Dead Zone where both characters loose their Heaven/Hell powers.

    /shrug

    Could be interesting.

  6. kano547 March 31, 2009 at 2:15 pm -      #6

    bow vs ak-47? i dont think so.that robin hood wanna-be would’nt last 5 minutes, he would probably have enough time to nock an arrow and pull it before punisher puts a round in his head. punisher wins this one hands down becuase he can quick-draw a pistol faster than green arrow(btw anybody know why he is named that?)can draw a bow.

    “another of our infamous Ghost Rider vs Spawn topic. In there you can set a new stage where the fight takes place in a Dead Zone where both characters loose their Heaven/Hell powers.”

    if they dont have alighnments then maybe spawn would have a chance to take that fight if gr’s fire didnt do any special damage against him then it would probably be a good fight and not just gr laughing at him for awile then just wipeing him out with ease.

  7. Thepocalypse March 31, 2009 at 3:03 pm -      #7

    “bow vs ak-47? i dont think so.that robin hood wanna-be would’nt last 5 minutes,”
    Do you realize how many armed assailants Green Arrow has taken down? He can ready, aim, and fire an arrow faster than you can blink. He has some of the greatest martial arts skills known to man, and has held his own against Superman. It’s exceptionally difficult to aim a gun when you’re impaled with an arrow that has begun seeping tear gas into your face.
    Green Arrow could quite easily take Castle at close range, as he is a master swordsman and martial artist, and is capable of getting a good shot with his bow even when practically face to face with his opponent.
    Castle would probably take an arrow through the head before he even realized the battle had begun. An explosive arrow.

  8. marche March 31, 2009 at 3:20 pm -      #8

    er,i think you are underestimating the green arrow there.

  9. Rob (Expertimp) March 31, 2009 at 3:29 pm -      #9

    @Matapiojo … lol..You don’t want to get into the whole Ghost Rider Spawn thing again do we..hehe.. Either way I like the suggestion about having the open ended battles and then also have more defined battle scenarios in another section…. It means you could have multiple battles between two characters in several scenarios.. endless possibilities
    @Thepocalypse…. Agreed Castle doesn’t stand a chance…

    I think there’s a green arrow movie coming out either this summer or next but the pilot of it sounds pretty good.. So I’m looking forward to that.

  10. Cpt Olimar March 31, 2009 at 3:33 pm -      #10

    “He has some of the greatest martial arts skills known to man, and has held his own against Superman.”

    Is there any superhero which hasn’t held their own against superman? It’s not to slight his power, but it seems that just about every superhero has done so.

  11. Rob (Expertimp) March 31, 2009 at 3:33 pm -      #11

    @admin… that battle request pages takes too long to load… maybe there could just be a new section called “Staged Battles” or something and then we could have whole rehashing of great battles under certain conditions.. like Xena and Conan trapped in a dungeon cell with no weapons and no food…hehehe also how about a BankGambling vs another website section???? like BankGambling vs ign… stuff like that

  12. admin March 31, 2009 at 3:36 pm -      #12

    @Rob (Expertimp) – Been working in a solution to reduce the load time on that page, it should be resolved alongside a potential site re-design

  13. marche March 31, 2009 at 3:46 pm -      #13

    “Is there any superhero which hasn’t held their own against superman? It’s not to slight his power, but it seems that just about every superhero has done so.”

    idk,but after the crisis he was powered down serverly,but his power has been steadily increasing.

  14. Thepocalypse March 31, 2009 at 3:46 pm -      #14

    “Is there any superhero which hasn’t held their own against superman?”
    Most have randomly found Kryptonite or were covered by Hero Shields. GA has done it in the same manner as Batman, with precision and planning.

  15. Thepocalypse March 31, 2009 at 3:47 pm -      #15

    As for battle requests, why not create a new page? You could archive the original and restart it, removing the long load time.

  16. kano547 March 31, 2009 at 4:02 pm -      #16

    www.cracked.com/article_16983_11-most-retarded-fictional-weapons.html

    number 8 says it all

  17. Rob (Expertimp) March 31, 2009 at 4:17 pm -      #17

    haha nice link Kano.. very nice read…

    I believe batman has practice catching those batrangs for hours though

  18. marche March 31, 2009 at 4:35 pm -      #18

    um,the ultimate nullifier works through violation of the law of conservation of mass.
    also its not like anyone can use it.

  19. Thepocalypse March 31, 2009 at 4:40 pm -      #19

    As nice as that may be, it adds nothing to this thread. While unorthodox, that type of arrow does serve a purpose as a nonlethal alternative to pointed arrows.

  20. L-W March 31, 2009 at 7:36 pm -      #20

    As other have mentioned, the Green Arrow will never always resort to using lethal force, instead he will always determine a means of safely (To himself and others) and efficiently incapacitate his opponent.

    The fact is GA is an experienced combatant, dealing with Supers and Mutations on an almost monthly basis with nothing more than his superhuman speed and agility, proficiency in hand-to-hand combat and an almost finite variation of arrows he can nock, draw and fire far faster than any Human can instinctively draw the trigger of a firearm.

    Robin Hood wannabe? This man is the God of Archery.

  21. kano547 March 31, 2009 at 7:45 pm -      #21

    “While unorthodox, that type of arrow does serve a purpose as a nonlethal alternative to pointed arrows.:
    yeah making me laugh so hard i cant fight back

  22. x on April 1, 2009 at 3:45 am -      #22

    Im voting for Green Arrow.

  23. flyboy51 April 11, 2009 at 11:55 pm -      #23

    Im thinking in a hand-to-hand fight its about equal. With high explosive and high rate-of-fire weapons, Punisher wins. But GA would win otherwise due to his speed and efficiency. The Punisher simply wouldnt be fast enough to dodge his arrows.

  24. Kenny C. June 9, 2009 at 11:48 am -      #24

    There is a reason why arrows are now considered obsolete. It’s called the gun and the various bigger cousins of it.

    Okay, so the Green Arrow is the greater archer ever. wow.

    Does that really make up the fact that Castle can just… I don’t know… shoot him!

    If you’re gonna bitch and moan he has faced other enemies with guns then good for you… heres a question… how does a man with arrows beat a man with a automatic GRENADE LAUNCHER, or a sniper rifle that can shoot somebody a mile away, or just for the hell of it a gatling gun….

    Waiting for completely unsensible responses as to how Green Arrow would survive….

  25. Jwlynas June 9, 2009 at 12:49 pm -      #25

    Lets be honest here, Green Arrow is what batman would have been had he an irrational fear of Robin Hood.

    There would be no-one saying Punisher could beat Batman, so I reckon we have the same deal for Green Arrow.

  26. Kenny C. June 14, 2009 at 11:32 pm -      #26

    @ Jwlynas

    Waiting for actual reasons as to how Green Arrow wins………

  27. Thepocalypse June 15, 2009 at 4:54 am -      #27

    @Kenny C.
    I laughed for a long time at your post. How many men with Grenade Launchers has he beaten? I couldn’t count them all. It’s hard to fire a gun with an arrow exploding between your eyes. And… automatic? You can’t carry an AGL, they’re for vehicle or mounted use. What, did you think he could just stuff all of those grenades in some tiny little shoulder mounted deal? Yeah right.

  28. Monokid June 15, 2009 at 11:25 am -      #28

    One well aimed arrow can be more deadly than a barrage of bullets and GA knows how to aim.

    And before anyone goes about how punisher knows how to aim also, GA aims faster ^^

  29. Kenny C. June 16, 2009 at 10:03 pm -      #29

    @ Monokid

    How the fuck does that make sense?

    @ Thepocalypse

    Yeah a AGL is at little over the top, but so far only one of the weapons I’ve discribed has been discounted….. so, PUNISHER FOR THE WIN.

  30. kano547 June 17, 2009 at 1:12 am -      #30

    theres also the fact that the punisher is pretty much green arrow but with guns and no silly qualms about slashing a fool all over the wall

  31. Monokid June 17, 2009 at 2:56 am -      #31

    Well Kenny C. let me say it this way, when it comes down to a quickdraw, it isnt the person with the more devastating gun that wins, its the person with the best/fastest reaction, speed and aim that wins.

    This isnt a quickdraw, however the same rules applies and GA is the better/faster of the two.

  32. Thepocalypse June 17, 2009 at 5:01 am -      #32

    “the punisher is pretty much green arrow”
    Minus the skills.

  33. Jwlynas June 17, 2009 at 6:32 am -      #33

    Ah, fine. Lets list ways Green Arrow could win.

    More varied weaponry and tactics (GA has weapons that obscure vision, pin people down, deflect other projectiles, would, kill, explode and pretty much anything else. Punisher has bullets… and explosives…)

    GA has better training, having spent most of his life actively improving his skills, his aim and his equipment. Good old frank castle fights meaningless “mooks”, and occasionally fails to capture a mutant. What a phenomenal resume there…

    Punisher is a borderline psycho, whose main tactic is “Throw more bullets at it!”, wheras GA is actually tactical, intelligent… hell, even Coherant.

    being as these matches involve no outside help, Punisher is without his faithful sidekick, as is GA. Punishers sidekick sorts out his weapons, tactics, entry points, past history and future of the target. GA’s sidekick is Speedy, the Robin to his batman, and no less useful, but ultimately a protegee rather than an assisstant.

    Please, enlighten us as to how Punisher wins.

  34. kano547 June 18, 2009 at 12:03 am -      #34

    @MONO

    so your saying that GA could take his bow of his shoulder,adjust his grip into firing position,draw an arrow,noc said arrow ,aim,pull the string and let go in less time than it takes a man who has been training with guns for at least as long as GA has with a bow, to draw his pistol aim it and sqeeze the trigger?

  35. Monokid June 18, 2009 at 4:50 am -      #35

    Kano547, we’re not talking about a real live archer who has to adjust like you said, we’re talking about a comicbookarcher who’s that good he can grab his bow in firing position and draw and shoot his arrow in moments time.

  36. Jwlynas June 18, 2009 at 2:33 pm -      #36

    “so your saying that GA could take his bow of his shoulder,adjust his grip into firing position,draw an arrow,noc said arrow ,aim,pull the string and let go in less time than it takes a man who has been training with guns for at least as long as GA has with a bow, to draw his pistol aim it and sqeeze the trigger?”

    A merely competent archer can do that in little under three seconds.

    Good archers can have that done in under two.

    Excellent ones can do it that fast while moving.

    Fantastic ones would already have another arrow notched before the first one had gone more than ten meters.

    Green Arrow is Phenomenal. He’s faster, more accurate and doesn’t show-boat until after he’s fired the first shot.

    Punisher is good, but thats it. if this was a match of Green Arrow versus Hawkeye, or Bullseye, I’d have a harder time deciding on a winner. As it is, Punishers advantage is guns, Green Arrow has everything else his own way.

  37. Kenny C. June 23, 2009 at 1:14 am -      #37

    @ Jwlynas

    Okay…. the statements you’re making is creating a black hole of stupidness that is devouring this entire thread… so stop.

    Where the hell is all this Punisher info coming from…. you must be basing all your info off the Punisher in Spiderman the animated series…. that guy was nothing compared to the real punisher.

    Sure Castle has his moments of…. insaniety….. but he is capable of rational thought.

    For instance, he learns that he is facing a man with a bow and non lethal arrow heads…. what would a man trained in the Marine Corp do?

    Let’s see….. he would realize that it would be better to take GA out quickly, so he gets his trusty M-16 climbs to a roof near a bank robbery, waits for his prey, and procedes to empty said rifle into GA. Why? Because Castle has a FUCKING GUN.

    No matter how you whine or debate, a bullet moves faster than an arrow. Castle is a good shot….. let’s make that a very good shot as he is still alive after everything he has done. Okay so GA has trick arrows…. wow. Let’s see…. what’s more harmful: a boxing glove on a arrow or a bullet designed to rip your organs to shreds….. it seems pretty obvious, but somehow you still cling to your beliefs.

    “A merely competent archer can do that in little under three seconds.

    Good archers can have that done in under two.

    Excellent ones can do it that fast while moving.

    Fantastic ones would already have another arrow notched before the first one had gone more than ten meters.”

    -Wow… I hear they’ve been able to do that with guns, but…. you know…. only better.

  38. Jwlynas June 23, 2009 at 5:02 am -      #38

    “For instance, he learns that he is facing a man with a bow and non lethal arrow heads…. what would a man trained in the Marine Corp do?”

    So the two people know of each other then?

    If you have someone known to be a great sniper and at the very least with Marine training, would you decide to wander down a street with no cover and make sure there is always higher ground above you? from which a sniper could easily keep you in their sight?

    Or would you decide to move in cover, on rooftops, and play the deadliest game of cat and mouse ever?

    “what’s more harmful: a boxing glove on a arrow or a bullet designed to rip your organs to shreds….. it seems pretty obvious, but somehow you still cling to your beliefs.”

    …I’d say the exploding arrow head with a delay after it hits, penetrating inside the body and then exploding.

    Whats more easily detected? An arrow fired from a bow, or the distinctive sound of an M16 being unloaded at a high velocity.

    Now, if we presume Frank Castle knows of the match when Green Arrow doesn’t and has taken up position somewhere like a mile away, from a vantage point that can see all of the surrounding land regardless of buildings, there are no vehicles or cover around and Green Arrow has popped out to buy some milk, then yes Frank Castle wins this easily.

    If however we make this an even vaguely fair match then its at least 50/50 either way, and probably more chance to the master archer than the marine trained gunner.

  39. Matapiojo June 23, 2009 at 8:10 am -      #39

    So,

    Have we determined that Green Arrow cannot fight against skilled oponents with guns?

    Well…
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    Or…
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    Or…
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    Or…
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    Or…
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    You must be right. Its not like he could dodge bullets from multiple gatlin guns…
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    Or…
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    What? The fight got to close combat?
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  40. Kenny C. June 24, 2009 at 7:53 pm -      #40

    Mata…. you know there is no way to dodge a galting gun when your’re only human.

    Still…. Punisher for the win.

  41. Marche July 9, 2009 at 3:05 am -      #41

    Regular humans in comics are far from actual regular humans.

  42. Kenny C. July 18, 2009 at 5:40 pm -      #42

    That I should be able to make a super gatling gun to counter balance above average humans by your own logic, correct?

  43. ss July 25, 2009 at 12:52 pm -      #43

    way to much fanboyism going on here
    look at the facts, they are both highly skilled combatants
    yes, green arrow has alot more options at his disposal because he can afford so many different varieties of arrows, that said he also has a huge disadvantage due to the fact that the punisher will be looking for a kill in the beginning, an will not be stopped without lethal force, which GA is unlikely to even consider using lethal force until, he is either badly wounded by castle, or is out of other options, which, it has stated, he has alot off. that said the punisher is one of the most underated heroes i know of. this is not just some guy with a gun, this is a trained, experienced, and ruthless aggressor and tactician who never does anything without multiple backup plans, and is willing to die for his cause. I would say that they are both skilled hand to hand combatants with different styles, but this fight considering both styles, is highly unlikely to be close quarters. Also the punisher does have a few options ol’ ollie does not have, such as a sniper rifle for long range or a shot gun for close range, plus in a place with corners or cover, grenades bounce and bullets ricochet, this is useful for getting behind the enemies cover without harming ones shelf. in a worse case scenario, the punisher can reinact suicide run and strap himself or the battle field with explosives, thus noone wins.

  44. ss July 25, 2009 at 12:55 pm -      #44

    ugh way to much fanboyism going on here
    look at the facts, they are both highly skilled combatants
    yes, green arrow has alot more options at his disposal because he can afford so many different varieties of arrows, that said he also has a huge disadvantage due to the fact that the punisher will be looking for a kill in the beginning, an will not be stopped without lethal force, which GA is unlikely to even consider using lethal force until, he is either badly wounded by castle, or is out of other options, which, it has stated, he has alot off. that said the punisher is one of the most underated heroes i know of. this is not just some guy with a gun, this is a trained, experienced, and ruthless aggressor and tactician who never does anything without multiple backup plans, and is willing to die for his cause. I would say that they are both skilled hand to hand combatants with different styles, but this fight considering both styles, is highly unlikely to be close quarters. Also the punisher does have a few options ol’ ollie does not have, such as a sniper rifle for long range or a shot gun for close range, plus in a place with corners or cover, grenades bounce and bullets ricochet, this is useful for getting behind the enemies cover without harming ones shelf. in a worse case scenario, the punisher can reinact suicide run and strap himself or the battle field with explosives, thus noone wins. wow i wrote a ton lol had to repost from my email

  45. Gizmo January 20, 2011 at 5:36 am -      #45

    what are you guys tryin to do,kill Frank Castle! A mentally unstable brute with guns and a scary thirst for violence,seriously he doesn’t stand a single chane against The All-Technologically advanced GreenArrow. I bet one trick arrow from GA’s arsenal is as destructve as Frank’s entire arsenal.

  46. Amm0vamp1r3 January 29, 2013 at 12:46 pm -      #46

    So what does new 52 arrow bring to the table against Frank?

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