Published on March 29, 2009, by admin - Posted in Uncategorized 238
Having played both games it’s hard to pick a clear winner since each has their own unique powers that they bring to the table. Set as a universe match, I think Gears of War would win out.
What do you think?
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is this thread dead yet? if not then I’ve been doing some research about the brotherhood of steel and the might be a bit more then peak human as they are given various implants (as to what kind or how many I don’t know) however some of these implants consist of regenerating (although slow) health, increased endurence, strength, agility, or better damage resistance. That and their standard T-51b power armor is made out “plastic composits” with a reflective coating allowing lasers to bounce off (they’ve apparently been known to be able to wipe out whole town idk when this happened but I’ll do some more digging) so the BoS and perhaps the enclave is bring a bit more to the table then just power armor and lasers
so i guess fallout wins after a very long and bloody war
Although It’s also fair to say that Gears will tear Fallout a new one in close combat. Fallout has some nice close combat weapons, but Gears has bigger than average people running around with chainsaws on their guns.
This is a pretty fair fight actually, considering Lambent, Brumaks, all those giant Gears bugs
well tell that to power fists,displacer gloves,thermic lances and rippers
which are useless against the swarms of polyps infecting your allies and
even if you do hit them you’ll die in the explosion
Sorry, I mean I know Fallout has some original and very powerful close combat weapons. However Everything in Gears is pretty much made for Close Combat.
Chainsaws on Guns
Big Mr. Universe sized soldiers
Lambent that blow up when you kill them, you really want to punch a big “acid” grenade?
the explosions caused by regular lambent never seem to be that impressive the only 3 that have a more then fire cracker range are the gunker the brumak, and the berserker
another thing I don’t understand is why does everybody assume the gears are like super big? from what I read they’re at peak human no more no less they aren’t augmented in any way and if they are I’d like proof
also close quarters doesn’t count for much when your enemy is packing rail guns and lasers
Peak Human pretty much means each one is a Mr. Universe right? just more balanced.
Everyone in the Fallout universe, except maybe a few surviving Enclave, are in some form, irradiated. They have small mutations, are undernourished, and generally on some drug.
The Gears men certainly aren’t eating like kings, but they seem to at least have enough calories to support their muscular physique. They also aren’t really irradiated, they may have Imulsion poisoning or some crap, but they don’t seem to show any environmental defects.
Individually, the Gears are much more physically fit and aren’t irradiated their entire lives. I still think Fallout has the population to win, not to mention some really snazy heavy weapons, but Gears has, in my opinion, better soldiers and very powerful Locust & Lambent creatures that would scare some Fallout people bad.
I’d like to see a Brumak versus Liberty Prime (only one bomb) match!
considering the things wastelanders see from time to time the locust probably wouldn’t surprise them as much as you think…it’s probably be long the lines of “holy shit those super mutants popped out of the ground”
I’ll agree that the gears are in better condition due to non radioactive food, and a more abundant supply of food (which isn’t saying much) however it seems that fallout has a much better standing in terms of medicine such as being able to cure radiation or lessen it’s effects where gears haven’t been shown to have any treatment for rust lung.
as for the mutations and such while yes the majority of fallout would have radiation related mutations of some sort the two power armored groups (which seem to be fighting force behind fallout at this point) are said to be the only pure humans outside the vault the only apparent exception would be the capital wasteland brotherhood of steel as they’ve been recruiting from the irradiated population of DC for quite some time
also a brumak vs. liberty prime with one bomb would end fairly horribly for the brumak
I’d think it depends on how powerful the LP lasers are to a Hammer of Dawn I guess. Although I’d jsut love to see a Brumak tackle LP and hear him yell out “Get off me you stinking Communist bastard!”
I know they wouldn’t be too afraid of the small Locust, but the Corpsers, Brumaks, those Catapult things, Leviathans, etc. would probably soil more than a few pairs of pants.
Also, the Gears Mortar would be quite effective i think compared to an Incinerator. Just a thought.
Fallout medicine is a factor i had forgotten about, Med-X and Stimpaks will be quite powerful I think. It’ll certainly lower the rate of living casualties.
Do we have a real account of durability in Power Armor? Like is it invulnerable to small arms? or explosions? Do we have that sort of info?
Another thing, wouldn’t it be quite deadly for an Enclave (although they are mostly dead aren’t they?) or BoS member to take off their suits outside? Since they are “pure” wouldn’t they end up like the Quarians?
“Another thing, wouldn’t it be quite deadly for an Enclave (although they are mostly dead aren’t they?) or BoS member to take off their suits outside? Since they are “pure” wouldn’t they end up like the Quarians?”
I distinctly remember fighting Enclave Officers outside in Fallout 3…
by pure I meant there isn’t 200+ years of radioactive breeding to weaken their numbers I’m sure the BoS and enclave do alot of rad-X and rad-away to keep radiation to a minimum
as for power armor durability not sure…the visors are said to be bullet proof but I remember knight captain dusk comment on how an armor piercing .308 could pierce advanced power armor mk. 2 helmets but maybe she was just assuming.
I just looked up the T-51b on the vault and according to that it can absorb 2500 joules of kinetic impact and has a silver coating that can reflect laser fire and radiation without damaging the composites beneath it
I know, I was wondering how they could accomplish such things
The visors are certainly bullet-proof, according to the game anyway.
What’s the joules of a standard Gears weapon? Do we even know what bullets they shoot?
““Another thing, wouldn’t it be quite deadly for an Enclave (although they are mostly dead aren’t they?) or BoS member to take off their suits outside? Since they are “pure” wouldn’t they end up like the Quarians?”
I distinctly remember fighting Enclave Officers outside in Fallout 3…”
Enclave guys are all over North America and they could be found outside as well as inside.
“by pure I meant there isn’t 200+ years of radioactive breeding to weaken their numbers I’m sure the BoS and enclave do alot of rad-X and rad-away to keep radiation to a minimum”
Weaken…? Because Ghouls, Super Mutants, Deathclaws, Uber bears, etc (the list keeps going) are weaker… Yeah. Never mind the fact that even in their poor shape transgenics is readily available from ‘garage scientists’ in the fallout universe.
“I just looked up the T-51b on the vault and according to that it can absorb 2500 joules of kinetic impact and has a silver coating that can reflect laser fire and radiation without damaging the composites beneath it”
What sources did hte Vault have? Since that is a wiki. I’m curious for my own reasons.
the wiki usually gets it’s stuff from the games I’ll check on that in a minute
ok that didn’t take as long as I thought so sorry for the double post
the source for the power armor comes from a holodisk in fallout 1 called “Power Armor Specs”
“The T-51b Powered Infantry Armor is designed with the latest passive defense features for both civilian and military disturbances. The back-mounted TX-28 MicroFusion Pack generates 60,000 Watts to power the HiFlo hydraulic systems built into the frame of the suit. Made of the latest poly-laminate composite, the T-51b shell is lightweight and capable of absorbing over 2,500 Joules of kinetic impact. The 10 micron silver ablative coating can reflect laser and radiation emissions without damage to the composite subsurface.”
that’s the holodisk contents if you’re interested
to sum things all up the fallout wiki is very careful as to what they put on the site and most of the information comes from a fallout game or book they make sure speculation, wanking, and false information is dealt with quickly
Gears win after a hard battle, can we all agree about that?
have we been over the various creatures in the wasteland and how ridiculous they are
Is Liberty Prime in this?
I don’t think so if we’re using current incarnation then liberty prime is done I don’t know if we’re including orbital strikes but I don’t think we are since the power of one mothership zeta blast causes an impossibly huge explosion
^ That’s the down side no sane person would fire the motherships gun on the planet as soon as the battle starts nobody is dumb enough to do that they would be killing much GOW units and their own but unlike the hammer of dawn satellites they can’t control the blast area and don’t have ability to reduce the large area of affect, the ship would be only good as a last resort and if the COG don’t blow it up with the HOD’S before fall out team uses it.
Anyway I beat GOW a few months ago if we go Post-GOW 3 they lose if we go during or before GOW-3 the Gears Of War universe wins.
Liberty Prime get’s shit stomped by
It took several dozen hammer of dawn strikes + several dozen magazines to it’s mouth to kill it.
Gears Of War for fact pile award.!!!!!!
(THEY WIN CAUSE THEY HAVE LAMBENT!)
I don’t think the HoD you fire in game is charged up fully since we’ve seen it destroy cities and boats but a single shot from it doesn’t kill a beserker
Mothership Zeta vapes anything Gears has.
I am hoping that we could revive this thread once again so that we can find a true winner in this battle.
Anyone with me?
Current GOW is Gears Of War Judgment which is a prequel in year one of E-Day
Max power Hammer of dawns would take out Mother Ship Zeta, not to mention now pretty much 3/4′s of the GOW factions are in their prime (C.O.G.,U.I.R.,Locust but minus Lambent which are still technically present)
The Enclave lost to the BOS and the BOS has lost to the NCR which in tern have lost to Caesar’s Legion
(Does anybody see a pattern in Fall Out?) which ever faction that has the higher number usually wins.
“Current” doesn’t necessarily mean last GW, just latest timeline, so GOW is post-3.
ahh, well this is a no brainer lol GOW easily clears it with the Lambent
At best Fallout stalemates them they just don’t have the brains or time to take out the final stage lambent.
So what factions are meant to survive in the fallout games? It would all depend on player choice right? I mean, if you assist the brotherhood of steel in fallout nv, they multiply in numbers and take over the region.
Do we take into account the legendary weapons like the nuke shotgun? That could wreck face easily.
Pssssh an army of Lambent Bersekers steam roll everything in the fall out verse.
Lambent Humans,Ghouls,Death Claws,Cazadores,ect
And alien motherships with death rays?
Technically there’s only one ship right now and they only know how to fire the main cannon which won’t stop the lambent from infecting the entire planet and winning the battle
The lambent can bleed the Fallout verse dry, you may have a space ship but the crew will run out of food and supplies eventually dying of dehydration or starvation (as they don’t know crap on how to operate the ship) as the Lambent thrive on the planet.
Oh also I’d like to add the Death Ray’s control room is Inaccessible after finishing the Mother Ship Zeta quest so there goes Fall out’s only hope.
[This is one of many areas of the ship that will not be accessible after the player has completed the main (This Galaxy Ain't Big Enough...) quest.]
If those lambent berserkers can be shot and killed with machine guns to it’s core, I doubt it would survive a mininuke explosion. Now, how about an army of powered armored soldiers all armed with launchers that shoot clusters of like 20 mininukes per shot.
If you want to play the game play mechanics card lol then you shouldn’t even be able to shoot the death ray because you destroy the power sources
1.That’s after it was weakened by two hammer of dawn blasts and got shot with thousands of rounds in its weakest spot,
2. The MIRV is a unique weapon that can shoot 8 mini nukes (so no) the regular Fatman can only shoot one mini nuke at a time (BOS hasn’t even shown the resources capable of mass producing mini nukes)
3. Supermutant Behemoths can survive mini nukes and they are not even as durable as a Lambent Berseker
4. A Lambent Bersker can take a One Shot to its exposed core and still be capable of fighting, nothing living in the Fallout verse would survive that type of attack.
4. Fatman’s are useless because they will kill the user if not shot from a long distance, Lambent Stalks allow the Berskers to be transported safely around the battlefield and close to their enemies I REALLY doubt that Fatman’s would be game changer at all since the blast radius would kill them
5. The Lambent population outnumbers the power armor users population (If the Brother Hood Of Steel was so powerful and has Fatman’s how’d they get their asses horribly kicked by the significantly less dangerous NCR that use ballistic weaponry and have no power armor or energy weapons?)
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