Master Chief Vs Arbiter

Master Chief Vs Arbiter

So a match that has been asked for quite a few times makes it to the site. Just from the gameplay experience, I think this would go to MC.

What say you?

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144 Comments on "Master Chief Vs Arbiter"

  1. cyborg pirate ninja jesus March 19, 2009 at 7:42 am -      #1

    i have always belived that the arbiter would win ….he has his cloaking and superior weaponry….if its covenant vs human tech

    but they are pretty much even in all possible ways except arbi has cloaking and plasma stuff

    thats what i think anyway

  2. hotshot March 19, 2009 at 11:15 am -      #2

    think that the arbiter is stronger ,he was a zeamot and i’m sure that a arbiter has stronger shields than a spartan,if you play the arby in halo 2 an 3 the shield is te same as mc but tha AI arbite in halo 3 has stronger sield tan master chief

  3. Battra Boy March 19, 2009 at 1:34 pm -      #3

    I reckon I’m gonna give this one to te Chief, based purely on gameplay.

  4. Spellca March 19, 2009 at 2:44 pm -      #4

    Arbiter wins. I am sorry but Elites are stronger then Spartans but for gameplay reasons seem the same. Thal’ is badass with duel wielding energy swords and not a bad shot with a Covenant carbine. I can imagine this fight with Halo 3 graphics on “The Pit” and Chief won’t have much of a chance. Arbiter is also a good pilot and expert leader – Chief just has augmentation, some fire arms, back-up and luck.

  5. Thepocalypse March 19, 2009 at 4:19 pm -      #5

    Arbiter (and I am going by Halo Wars, but I assume the Arbiters all have the same abilities) can slice buildings apart with an energy sword. He can single handedly deal with scores of SPARTANs and vehicles without much worry. Plus, the marines actually acknowledge the fact that he respawns in a flash of light after he’s killed with the line, “Arbiter’s dead! Wait… no he’s not!”

  6. kano547 March 19, 2009 at 7:51 pm -      #6

    sorry to not post on topic but i didnt know where to ask at. can someone please explain to me the little gold stars

  7. hellatus March 20, 2009 at 3:10 am -      #7

    arbiter is the same as master chief except for the fact that master chief has superior strength speed skill luck and he has an AI ( cortana ) by his side

    not to mention he has alot more stuff than arbiter in his suit
    a spartan is way stronger than an elite

    if elites were any stronger than a spartan then the humans will have been destroyed already because there are hundreds no, thousands of elites. and there were uhm 30 spartans that were wiped out at planet reach wich the only survivor, master chief the last & greatest spartan eventualy save the human race and caused the downfall of the covenant with some help from the arbiter

    Of course master chief is better than arbiter what made anyone think that elites are stronger than spartans

  8. Thepocalypse March 20, 2009 at 5:24 am -      #8

    “sorry to not post on topic but i didnt know where to ask at. can someone please explain to me the little gold stars”
    They are determined by the number of comments you make.
    I have made 319 comments, so I hold 31 stars and will get one more for this comment.
    You have made 109 comments and have 10 stars.

  9. hotshot March 20, 2009 at 11:15 am -      #9

    Minor elites are weaker than spartans,majorthe same but the otherhigh ranking stronger, elites are also fast and have relexes,smart ,…. they are the alien versions of spartans
    the ariter has better shields,the only reason that the arby and the chief have the same shield in gameplay is for balanced reasons but if you see the AI arbiter in campaign,his shield are stronger mc
    and it sems that an arbiters armor is bullet proof like the one of halowars
    so i thinkth arbiter would win

  10. hellatus March 20, 2009 at 6:24 pm -      #10

    what makes u think that elites have stronger shields than spartans? sparntans shields are just as strong as an elite. Plus the spartans as i have said are quicker stronger and more skilled than elites. all the spartans are really strong there are no low ranking ones all of them are the best thats why there were only a few spartans, because many werent good enough to be one. All of them were trained from the age of 6 ,everyday they did a hundred push ups sit ups and other excersises. did u know that master chief and his team of 5 or 6 defeated a planet of rebels and took thier leader and he was only 14 at the time he didnt have his suit yet.

    master chief has alot more skill, experience agility, strength and luck than arbiter arbiter is like his sidekick that only appeared at halo 3

  11. x on March 20, 2009 at 7:07 pm -      #11

    hellatus are you a idiot? cuz that was wrong so very wrong try to know how good elites are befor saying stuff like that again.Elites are stronger then spartans there traind allmost as much as the spartans read the books use your brain wiki it all helps and it was not a planet they attack it was a Asteroid.

    “master chief has alot more skill, experience agility, strength and luck than arbiter arbiter is like his sidekick that only appeared at halo 3″

    That was a game not the real arbiter fool.

    Anyways i vote for the Master Chief by only a lil

  12. Thepocalypse March 20, 2009 at 7:18 pm -      #12

    “what makes u think that elites have stronger shields than spartans? ”
    The spartans shields are copied from Covenant technology and are not a perfect reproduction, they are inferior.
    “all the spartans are really strong there are no low ranking ones”
    The SPARTAN III project created inferior spartans.
    “Plus the spartans as i have said are quicker stronger and more skilled than elites.”
    Low level Elite ground troops yes, but not Arbiters or Zealots.
    The rest of your comment was difficult to argue with because your facts were fairly straight, but didn’t really prove anything in this context.

  13. hellatus March 21, 2009 at 7:49 am -      #13

    i am talking obout master chiefs batch of spartans not the previous ones

  14. Thepocalypse March 21, 2009 at 9:05 am -      #14

    “i am talking obout master chiefs batch of spartans not the previous ones”
    SPARTAN III came after SPARTAN II

  15. hellatus March 21, 2009 at 9:33 am -      #15

    BTW we are talking abt master chief and arbiter not the other elites and spartans.

  16. Space marine March 21, 2009 at 10:48 am -      #16

    Ok, Winner: Kharn….Wait, WTF?

  17. Matapiojo March 21, 2009 at 12:20 pm -      #17

    “BTW we are talking abt master chief and arbiter not the other elites and spartans.”

    As I read it, you are the one that started involving the other individuals from the protagonists’ sub-class. All that has been done here are counters to your arguments.

    You seem to have one GREAT misconception. As elite as they are, no two spartans are identical. Just like any other human being, their individual traits and skills vary greatly from one Spartan to the next. Even within their same program.

    The inclussion of the Spartan III program in this discussion was unnecesary. Spartan-117 is not the strongest, he is not the fastest, he is not even the most tactically sound even amongst his Spartan II peers.

    You seem to be also under the impression that the Arbiter is a pushover simply because of his plot role. WRONG!

    Thel ‘Vadam (Arbiter) has perhaps more experience than John. One does not attain the rank of Supreme Commander amongst the Sangheili by simply screaming taunts to others.

    Pleaso do stop making ridiculous comparissons based on a video game mechanic/balance. Specially when said game is a ridiculous First Person Shooter. Most importantly, stop thinking you are right. It has been proven you are not many times over.

  18. El Zilcho March 21, 2009 at 4:44 pm -      #18

    First off the argument that Elites are stronger then Spartans is a tad incorrect. In the Ghost of Onyx, the Elites are fearful of getting into close combat with the Spartan IIIs, and one Spartan-III is described as snapping the neck of an Elite in close combat. And Spartan-IIs are far greater in every aspect then the Spartan-III models.

    Many people also seem to be using the argument that the Arbiter is better because he is a Zealot. Go play Halo 1, 2 and 3 only Legendary and see how many Zealots and Brute Chieftains (who are comparable to Zealots) you kill. They aren’t hard to take down.

    The Chief and the Arbiter are meant to be opposite equals. That’s how they are portrayed, even though the Arbiter gets demoted to sidekick in Halo 3 (curse that decision). So who wins? The Chief, on the premises of the luck factor. Oh no, I can hear people shouting at my decision to include the much hated luck factor. To bad it is a factor. The Chief has been described to have this factor in both Halo 3 and Fall of Reach. The luck factor doesn’t equal an instant win for the Chief in battle, but it does give him an edge, particularly in a fight versus an equal (who hasn’t been described to have a luck factor).
    So victory goes the Chief. Or the Space Marine hiding in the bushes.

  19. hellatus March 21, 2009 at 6:05 pm -      #19

    so if arbiter is as strong as u guys say then how come when he was not yet allied with the humans. just kill mc cuz he was in the way and destroy teh humans

  20. Onesidedfight March 21, 2009 at 10:51 pm -      #20

    Ok, first of all, spartans are weaker then elites, but spartans have more closecouters combat traning. In a part of one of the books mc is fighting an elite who has a sowred and trys to hold his hands back, but starts to lose. He then uses a move to use the elites sowred to stap him. Also mc is not the strongest fastest or smartest of the spartans, but what makes him one of the best spartans is the fact that he is not the dumbest, he is not the slowest, and he is not the weakest, and he has luck. Also, in the books, mc’s suit has a natural camo, which is excatley like the arbiters camo, but unlimted. I think it would get close, but it would end up in mc doing a move to stab the aribter with his own sowerd. Oh, and a Spartans shields are better then an elites shield.

  21. Thepocalypse March 22, 2009 at 7:02 am -      #21

    “so if arbiter is as strong as u guys say then how come when he was not yet allied with the humans. just kill mc cuz he was in the way and destroy teh humans”
    Because if he did, Microsoft and Bungie wouldn’t sell any more games.

  22. Onesidedfight March 22, 2009 at 8:16 am -      #22

    He didn’t kill mc because he was the leader of the attack in halo 1, and was not yet the abiter, meaning he thought he would just die. Also, the abiter in halo wars got pwned by forge, I’m preety sure mc could kill him.

  23. Thepocalypse March 22, 2009 at 9:22 am -      #23

    “Also, the abiter in halo wars got pwned by forge, I’m preety sure mc could kill him.”
    This is a difficult thing to explain, but just because he lost to Forge in the game, doesn’t mean he’d lose were their battle to occur in reality.
    Within fiction, there is a sort of law that heroes always triumph, which is why characters like MC always win, everything has to have a nice clean conclusion. When a hero does lose, it is usually in a “realistic” work, or for a sort of shock value, but they rarely die in said battle unless there is a suitable hero to avenge them.
    So, we must compare abilities again, rather than except what is presented to us by the fiction itself.

  24. Space marine March 22, 2009 at 4:34 pm -      #24

    “Or the Space Marine hiding in the bushes.”
    Damn, Found out!

    /Zips to More bushes

  25. El Zilcho March 23, 2009 at 2:03 am -      #25

    @Thepocalypse
    I completely agree with you on that matter, just because Forge defeats the halo wars Arbiter (and I get the feeling that Thel Vadam is superior) doesn’t mean arbiters are weak. However I would like to point out that while the luck factor is used as a way to thinly cover the Chief’s plot shield, it is an actual attribute, and thus still plays a part in the fight.

    @Space Marine
    ““Or the Space Marine hiding in the bushes.”
    Damn, Found out!
    /Zips to More bushes”

    Curses, he’s run off, have to try and find him again.

  26. Space marine March 23, 2009 at 8:37 am -      #26

    You’ll Never catch me!

    /Activates jump pack

  27. Onesidedfight March 23, 2009 at 9:52 pm -      #27

    I know forge wouldn’t really beat arby, but it just amassed me that they would show something that can take hundreds of marines at a time getting killed by a knife and a magunm. However, what the aribter does in halo wars seems preety impossiable, for several resons…
    1) abitly to jump up at least one hundred feet in the air to kill a hornet with no jump pack or boost of any know kind
    2) his abitly to make things blow up with sowerds that as far as I can tell, can only damage living things and does no harm to metal or anything like that.
    3) his abitly to reflect damage back at his foes, espicaly without a shield.
    4) his abitly to heal when a squad is killed.
    Can anyone expilan any of this?

  28. AlphaCommando March 24, 2009 at 12:10 am -      #28

    A little thing called game mechanics, they are wonderful little aspects of games that really can’t be explained by logic or science…or anything.

    And Forge really only beat the Arbiter through trickery…and because the Arbiter seems to lack shields…like all Elites in the cutscenes….

  29. Scout March 24, 2009 at 1:27 am -      #29

    i you read the books it describes a spartan tearing an elite in half, so for that fact, i give it to the chief. but thats not really why im here, there has been somthing annoying the heck out of me for quite a while. Twilight, and in particular Edward Cullen. htis guy is not a vampire, he is a made up wanna be. but everyone is divided. so can i request a dual? a vampier fight: Edward Cullen (Twilight) vs Jack Bauer (The lost boys)

  30. A Man with Clothes On March 24, 2009 at 5:29 pm -      #30

    cyborg prate ninja jesus, have you even PLAYED Halo? MC kills hundreds of thousans of invisible elites. How can you think The Arbiter can beat him, espcially with his LIMIT of cloaking, with his invisibility?

    Not that I wanna be like Little Miss L-W.

  31. A Man with Clothes On March 24, 2009 at 5:41 pm -      #31

    x on, Are YOU an idiot? MC has stronger shields than spartans.

    And what do you mean, real Arbiter? The Arbiter is a made up character!

    Then again, I don’t wanna be like Little Miss L-W.

  32. L-W March 24, 2009 at 9:25 pm -      #32

    “Then again, I don’t wanna be like Little Miss L-W.”

    If you somehow achieved even half of my aptitude, your tiny and inefficient brain would explode.

  33. A Man with Clothes On March 25, 2009 at 3:59 pm -      #33

    Of course, if I meant it in how smart I am, it would be strange I said it, as it would be pointless since my brain is far too immense in size to attempt to compae to your own.

    What I meant was that you are a retard/jerk/fag that always corrects people, and you call people stupid for thinking of who they thought would win the fight.

    Which does not make them stupid; that just shows they do not know too much of the situation.

  34. Lebolud March 25, 2009 at 10:46 pm -      #34

    Well, seeing as the arbiter is just an above average in skill elite with ancient armor inferior to those of his comrades, then i say MC. There’s evidence to show that he is a very capable elite, but MC is a very capable human. In fact, he and others like him are so capable that many allies don’t consider them human.

  35. Matapiojo March 26, 2009 at 6:26 am -      #35

    @A Man with Clothes On

    I usualy stay out of MC fights because of the sort of idiots that seem to gravitate towards them. You sir, are one of those idiots.

  36. Robert March 26, 2009 at 9:34 am -      #36

    the chief and the arbiter are equals. the arbiter DOES have more experiance, while the Chief has luck. based on my battlefield experiance (being a soldier in the US Army), i’d say that is is a draw, but with a little bit of a edge for either one depending on their position on the battlefield, their weapons, ammo count, shield level, who can see who, yadda, yadda, yadda. all these factors contribute to the battle. so, i’d say it is a draw. only BUNGIE can decide the outcome of that battle, and they won’t, or can’t, release that data.

  37. L-W March 26, 2009 at 10:10 am -      #37

    “What I meant was that you are a retard/jerk/fag that always corrects people, and you call people stupid for thinking of who they thought would win the fight.”

    How does the phrase go? The proof is in the Pudding?

    Ladies and Gents, I present the Pudding in all it’s partially sentient glory. Marvel at it’s cumbersome and barely lukewarm intellect. Look at it grasp with the small prehensile glob that passes for a brain.

  38. x on March 26, 2009 at 1:18 pm -      #38

    A Man with Clothes On by the dark gods you are a idiot you need to be shot so know one on this earth needs to hear you again and if i may can i shot him?.

    “MC has stronger shields than spartans”

    First when did i say anything of shields you idiot?? elites have stronger one’s anyways soo nice try fool.

    “And what do you mean, real Arbiter? The Arbiter is a made up character!”

    You fail like only a idiot can fail. The one from the books show’s the true Arbiter soo thats the one i was talking about show’s how smart you are.

  39. Lebolud March 26, 2009 at 4:39 pm -      #39

    @robert

    actually mc has more combat experience because he was kidnapped when he was five years old to train for combat.

    @ x on

    actually spartans have stronger shields than elites. it was an improved version of the captured covie tech because the covenant don’t use their technology to their full potential

    @ a man with clothes on

    MC’s shields are the same as any other spartan’s

  40. cyborg pirate ninja jesus March 26, 2009 at 7:16 pm -      #40

    i know this is off topic but i just wanted to say good bye to all the people that i have spoken to on BankGambling because this will be my last post for a while

    so thanks for the great discussions and so on and best of luck to all of you

    p.s. my pic is different coz i got a new email address

  41. swifterdeath March 26, 2009 at 7:29 pm -      #41

    “actually spartans have stronger shields than elites. it was an improved version of the captured covie tech because the covenant don’t use their technology to their full potential”

    yes but the UNSC took Jackal shields for the energy shields i believe.

  42. x on March 26, 2009 at 7:36 pm -      #42

    @Lebolud

    Maybe the lower elite’s shield but higher one’s noo… and MC is the only one with shields out of all the spartan’s.

    “he was kidnapped when he was five years old to train for combat”

    Y can’t you people get it he was kidnapped when he was 6 is it so hard??

    Anyways i say Mc win’s only by a lil and i mean a lil.

  43. Lebolud March 26, 2009 at 10:14 pm -      #43

    @ x on

    Master Chief is certainly NOT the only shielded Spartan. He wasn’t even the first one with a shielded version of the armor. Also, since the arbiter has armor that is considerably weaker than that of his comrades, you cannot base the decision upon the fact that higher ranking elites have superior shields. Arbiter armor is ancient and has very limited capabilities, therefore chief wins in armor. And chief’s armor is based upon jackal’s hand held shields which is much much more resistant to small arms fire than elite’s shields. I also think that MC wins by a little, and only a little.

  44. x on March 26, 2009 at 10:45 pm -      #44

    “Master Chief is certainly NOT the only shielded Spartan. He wasn’t even the first one with a shielded version of the armor.”

    Name what one fool… Mc was the only one givin a suit of Mk 5 that had shields it was the only one.

    “since the arbiter has armor that is considerably weaker than that of his comrades, you cannot base the decision upon the fact that higher ranking elites have superior shields”

    Ok but you where saying Mc had stronger shields then elites not the arbiter.

  45. Space marine March 26, 2009 at 11:03 pm -      #45

    “A Man with Clothes On by the dark gods you are a idiot you need to be shot so know one on this earth needs to hear you again and if i may can i shot him?.”

    Why do you like shooting people so much?

  46. x on March 27, 2009 at 12:07 am -      #46

    “Why do you like shooting people so much?”

    Y not space marine y not… well i can stab him or beat him to death with a club or i can gut him. It’s all the same too me as long as the idiot died and it was me who did it i don’t care how i do it.

  47. El Zilcho March 27, 2009 at 1:03 am -      #47

    “Name what one fool… Mc was the only one givin a suit of Mk 5 that had shields it was the only one.”
    Actually, nearly all the Spartans got upgraded from Mk 4 to MK 5 just prior to the fall of Reach. The Chief was the only one to be later upgraded to MK 6 (which, among other things, has a more powerful and faster recharging shield, a denser exoskeleton and an on board supply of biofoam)

  48. x on March 27, 2009 at 1:30 pm -      #48

    “Actually, nearly all the Spartans got upgraded from Mk 4 to MK 5 just prior to the fall of Reach. The Chief was the only one to be later upgraded to MK 6″

    I know that but MC was the only one who had a shield in his MK5 the other’s got Mk 5 but it did not have shield’s in them.

  49. A Man with Clothes On March 27, 2009 at 7:13 pm -      #49

    Usually, L-W, you would try to insult me after I say things like that, but I find this strange what you said about… pudding? And now you say that pudding is, basically your idol.

    Either you were acting like an idiot or you need to find a new insult book ( I suggest you try something from 2005 and certainly not 1975).

  50. A Man with Clothes On March 27, 2009 at 7:18 pm -      #50

    x on, I WILL speak my knowledge, and you can not do ANYTHING about it!

    So just accept it and move on with your supposedly violent life.

  51. L-W March 27, 2009 at 8:51 pm -      #51

    Too bad you never have anything valid to add, otherwise I might find you annoying.

  52. Space marine March 27, 2009 at 9:34 pm -      #52

    “Y not space marine y not”

    Do you know how much lead costs these days!

  53. A Man with Clothes On March 28, 2009 at 10:25 am -      #53

    What would there be to add? That the iPod Touch has Internet?

  54. A Man with Clothes On March 28, 2009 at 12:03 pm -      #54

    admin, why is this seperated from the “MC vs…” thing?

    It doesn’t make sense.

  55. admin March 28, 2009 at 12:16 pm -      #55

    @A Man with Clothes On – I suppose I should categorize this match properly…

  56. Lebolud March 28, 2009 at 4:45 pm -      #56

    @ x on

    ”Name what one fool… Mc was the only one givin a suit of Mk 5 that had shields it was the only one.Ok but you where saying Mc had stronger shields then elites not the arbiter.”

    First, i will adress the most retarded part of your comment. I said that MC had stronger shields than elites, and i also said that the arbiter’s armor is inferior to the armor worn by his comrades i.e. other elites. Therefore MC’s armor is superior to the arbiter’s.

    Now, to the slightly less retarded part of your comment. Name one???? are you kidding? nearly every spartan on reach had mk 5 armor, and the surviving spartans were most likely given mk 6.

    ”I know that but MC was the only one who had a shield in his MK5 the other’s got Mk 5 but it did not have shield’s in them.”

    Oh, and this is idiotic. Are you really saying that there only one suit of MK5 armor had shields? hahahahahah, wow. ”The newer Mark V replaced the Mark IV Assault Armor the day prior to the Covenant assault on Reach in 2552, though it was first produced in 2542. The Mark V was the realization of Dr. Halsey’s vision. It had hundreds of minor technical improvements over the Mark IV as well as two major modifications. It could hold an Artificial Intelligence and had energy shields.” Source: halo.wikia.com/wiki/Mjolnir#MJOLNIR_Mark_V.

    Mk5 was made to have shields. your argument is void. owned.

  57. x on March 28, 2009 at 8:15 pm -      #57

    First off how dare you call my post’s retarded.

    “First, i will adress the most retarded part of your comment. I said that MC had stronger shields than elites, and i also said that the arbiter’s armor is inferior to the armor worn by his comrades i.e. other elites. Therefore MC’s armor is superior to the arbiter’s.”

    … I know Arbiter’s shield’s are weaker then MC’s shield it is not how ever stronger then anything above and minor elite’s shiled and its same as the major’s.

    “Now, to the slightly less retarded part of your comment. Name one???? are you kidding? nearly every spartan on reach had mk 5 armor, and the surviving spartans were most likely given mk 6.”

    Ok it looks like i was wrong they all had shield’s i had to reread the book happy now.Also the other’s did not get MK 6.

    “Oh, and this is idiotic. Are you really saying that there only one suit of MK5 armor had shields? hahahahahah, wow. ”The newer Mark V replaced the Mark IV Assault Armor the day prior to the Covenant assault on Reach in 2552, though it was first produced in 2542. The Mark V was the realization of Dr. Halsey’s vision. It had hundreds of minor technical improvements over the Mark IV as well as two major modifications. It could hold an Artificial Intelligence and had energy shields.”

    Like i was saying i was wrong want a cookie for calling me an idiot for the day?

    “Mk5 was made to have shields. your argument is void. owned.”

    HA.HA.HA.

  58. A Man with Clothes On March 28, 2009 at 9:38 pm -      #58

    Oh, so you’re like, ” How dare you!” when you call ME retarded?

    You hypocrite!

    Hypocrites by the dark gods are idiots that need to be shot so that know one in this earth can hear them again and if I may can I shot them?

  59. Lebolud March 28, 2009 at 11:28 pm -      #59

    x on, all i said is that your argument was wrong. i could have expressed it more politely though. my bad

  60. x on March 29, 2009 at 1:12 am -      #60

    @A Man with Clothes On

    Your a idiot im not and your a hypocite!.

  61. A Man with Clothes On March 29, 2009 at 1:23 pm -      #61

    And what made you think I’m a hypocite? What made you think I called you an idiot?

    Do you even know what a hypocrite (not hypocite) is?

    Not that I want to start acting like L-W, or that I want to get him to talk about worshipping pudding, look in a dictionary, and try not to call people things you don’t know the definition of.

  62. Lebolud March 29, 2009 at 1:41 pm -      #62

    i don’t understand how A Man with Clothes On is being hypocritical.

  63. x on March 29, 2009 at 2:15 pm -      #63

    @Lebolud

    It’s fine man.

    @A Man with Clothes On

    I know what it mean’s fool and you did not call me an idiot i did that cuz you are.

    P.S Also the worshipping of pudding look’s like a fun thing to do.

  64. Zach V. March 29, 2009 at 6:06 pm -      #64

    Master Chief takes the victory here. He’s stronger, faster, more durable, has better reflexes, has been training since he was 6, and he always seems to come out on top.

    Not that it wouldn’t be a long and amazing fight, but I think that Mc would eventually win this bout.

    Just like Mata said, “One does not attain the rank of Supreme Commander amongst the Sangheili by simply screaming taunts to others.”

    So it would be very close.

    L-W and Mata are just really smart guys so they feel an urge to correct anything that could be potentially wrong.

  65. Tarbel March 31, 2009 at 8:18 pm -      #65

    MC WINS, I believed Spartans and human soldiers have beaten Arbiters before so they should still be able to now! Also, MC is PRO.

  66. A Man with Clothes On March 31, 2009 at 8:49 pm -      #66

    Diana, why are you involved? It’s mostly a guy thing.

    And do you know a single thing about Internet predators?

    I suggest you get a new gravatar.

  67. A Man with Clothes On March 31, 2009 at 8:49 pm -      #67

    By mostly, I mean it is. All of it.

  68. A Man with Clothes On April 3, 2009 at 3:23 pm -      #68

    x on, you didn’t even answer my question. What makes you think I’m a hypocrite?

  69. the_man_with The_Answers April 4, 2009 at 12:26 pm -      #69

    MC has this in the bag. In Mark 5 armour MC is as strong as an elite. In Mark 6 armor he is stonger duh. MC has heat sensors, this eliminates the cloaking because covenate shield genorators produce heat. Consdering the fact that the MJLNIR combat suit is improved covenant shield tech, the abiter has lower shields.
    The arbiter is slower,weaker,more unfortunate,and out teched(at least in armor) how could he possibly win? MC has taken on 2 hunters, some odd number of grunts and jackals plus elites at the same time, so how could he possibly lose against one ex-shipmaster/fleet master?

  70. Dark Jelly April 7, 2009 at 9:45 pm -      #70

    Watch the cinematic on halo wars. A MARINE kills the arbiter, just after three spartans kill 20 elites w/o breaking sweat. Master chief and the arbiter are not portrayed as equals in combat, but rather equal ROLES of character (that of leaders that excel their own comrades in battle). Why was the arbiter demoted to a sidekick position in Halo 3? Because MC is better and bungie knew it. Maybe if MC and the arbiter armwrestled arby would b victorious, but in battle MC would put a full clip into arbys face before arby even saw him. Why is it the covenant have been hunting the “demon” for years and cant kill him? Why has MC killed hundreds of elites? Because he runs train against EVERYONE, including arby.

  71. Cpt Olimar April 7, 2009 at 9:57 pm -      #71

    “Why was the arbiter demoted to a sidekick position in Halo 3? Because MC is better and bungie knew it.”

    While I dont play halo… I feel it necessary to say that the creators of a game decide who is going to be stronger than who. It’s not like they “know” someone is better. If they wanted MC stronger, they would have it done so. Look at Raider in MGS, they wanted him to kick butt in the 4th game, and that’s exactly what he does. If the creators want Arbiter to own MC next game, they could make it so.

  72. swifterdeath April 7, 2009 at 10:37 pm -      #72

    “Watch the cinematic on halo wars. A MARINE kills the arbiter”

    yes and he killed said arbiter becouse
    1- the arbiter didnt even have shields.
    2- he tricked the arbiter
    3- plot.

    “just after three spartans kill 20 elites w/o breaking sweat.”

    master chief kills alot of elites…but these had no shields mind you. and for some reason carried only spears…

    “was the arbiter demoted to a sidekick position in Halo 3? ”

    it wasent that it was that the game revolves around master cheif. would it be as interesting if you played as the arbiter the whole game? infact in some levels you dont get the arbiter for most of it.

    “Consdering the fact that the MJLNIR combat suit is improved covenant shield tech,”

    jackal shields, improved jackal shields basicly only improved and cover the entire suit.

  73. the_man_with The_Answers April 8, 2009 at 6:25 pm -      #73

    Either way the Arbiter from Halo Wars isn’t the same as the one from Halo 2-3. Still MC has this in the bag. You kill elites in Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2. The Arbiter maybe slightly better than them but it won’t make a very big difference.

    *MC has taken on 2 hunters, some odd number of grunts and jackals plus elites at the same time, so how could he possibly lose against one ex-shipmaster/fleet master?*
    Do I have to repeat myself?

  74. DarkJelly April 9, 2009 at 4:59 pm -      #74

    “While I dont play halo…”
    First off: dont talk about something you dont know about.
    “I feel it necessary to say”
    2nd: No one cares about your feelings
    “the creators of a game decide who is going to be stronger than who. It’s not like they “know” someone is better.”
    3rd: You contradict yourself here…Yes, they do decide who is going to be stronger, which is how they knew MC is better. His character and persona, and how they formed it up until his confrontation with the arbiter, was obviously superior to arby’s. This led bungie to demote arby from the player’s perspective. This is also why bungie will never do what you said “If the creators want Arbiter to own MC next game, they could make it so.” Bungie isnt retarded, and wont compromise the hierarchy of superiority (MC > arby) they have established over the entire saga of halo. (aka they wont contradict themselves as much as you)
    “master chief kills alot of elites…but these had no shields mind you. and for some reason carried only spears…”
    4th: Another contradiction. You make it appear as though these elites are inferior to regular ones…which would imply that the arbiter is stupid and appointed retards to watch his back. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, and assuming your overall argument is that the arbiter is in fact superior to MC and thus somewhat smart…the royal guard are actually not retards and are better than avg. elites…These above avg elites still have a below avg showing against 3 Spartans though–what was the score? (20-0 ?)
    “yes and he killed said arbiter becouse
    1- the arbiter didnt even have shields.
    2- he tricked the arbiter”
    5th: the arbiter compromised his shields for camo tardzard. Sry, but you cant have it all. Also, does trickery not count for something? mental impairment (such as falling for the trick forge offers) comes to affect your overall combat skills at some point bud…seems to me arby is close (intelligence-wise) to the guy that stands up when bullets are whizzing overhead.
    “it wasent that it was that the game revolves around master cheif. would it be as interesting if you played as the arbiter the whole game? infact in some levels you dont get the arbiter for most of it.”
    6th: I cant even make sense of this statement so I cant tell you the degree of how wrong it is.
    7th: MASTER CHIEF RUNS TRAIN

  75. A Man with Clothes On April 12, 2009 at 9:10 am -      #75

    Look, DarkJelly!

    Saying things like “No one cares about your feelings” is acting like a Communist, like Miss L-W.

    Please be careful of acting like a Communist, as it may result in horrible consequences, almost unimaginable.

    Don’t be a Communist.

  76. swifterdeath April 12, 2009 at 11:56 am -      #76

    one moment while i pick though his post of what he is saying to me.

    “Another contradiction. You make it appear as though these elites are inferior to regular ones…which would imply that the arbiter is stupid and appointed retards to watch his back. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, and assuming your overall argument is that the arbiter is in fact superior to MC and thus somewhat smart…the royal guard are actually not retards and are better than avg. elites…These above avg elites still have a below avg showing against 3 Spartans though”

    that makes no sense seeing as i have never directly picked a side. and made sure that i had not picked a side. as another thing. weither or not these where royal gaurd they still failed to have shields.

    “5th: the arbiter compromised his shields for camo tardzard. Sry, but you cant have it all. Also, does trickery not count for something? mental impairment (such as falling for the trick forge offers) comes to affect your overall combat skills at some point bud…seems to me arby is close (intelligence-wise) to the guy that stands up when bullets are whizzing overhead.”

    oh he used camo instead of shields…but guess what? he still didnt have shields which helped for his downfall. wiether he sacrificed them or not HE STILL DIDNT HAVE THEM!.

    “6th: I cant even make sense of this statement so I cant tell you the degree of how wrong it is.”

    instead of just jumping to what i said try and read back a bit. for a quick summary-

    i was saying the chief is the main character. why make the arbiter the best? its about the chief not arby. you dont play arby for the game if you play by yourself. and if you did it wouldent be as fun. so instead they made him ‘the sidekick’ as some people would say.

  77. Onesidedfight April 12, 2009 at 3:23 pm -      #77

    Why does everyone put a tricking factor in someonea ability to fight someone? It shows that the enemy isn’t smart or fast enough to think during a fight, which mc has shown on multiple accounts. ( Rembering a wrestling move he learned when he was 8 or 9 that helped him take out a brute, staping an elite with his own sowerd, etc.) meaning that arby would be taken down quickly, due to a lack of reaction.

  78. swifterdeath April 12, 2009 at 4:09 pm -      #78

    “Why does everyone put a tricking factor in someonea ability to fight someone?”

    i dont. i was saying thats how Sgt. forge beat the arby from Halo wars. he tricked him.

  79. The One Sin April 12, 2009 at 4:35 pm -      #79

    “i was saying the chief is the main character. why make the arbiter the best? its about the chief not arby. you dont play arby for the game if you play by yourself. and if you did it wouldent be as fun. so instead they made him ‘the sidekick’ as some people would say. ”

    yes it would be as fun, playing the savior of a race of aliens completely devoted to war.

    He’s like a predator jesus. I would love that game.

  80. swifterdeath April 12, 2009 at 6:11 pm -      #80

    “yes it would be as fun, playing the savior of a race of aliens completely devoted to war.

    He’s like a predator jesus. I would love that game.”

    my point was of you playing hte arbiter instead of the chief…you have to sit there as the chief does most of the ‘awsome’ work.

  81. Skrunks April 12, 2009 at 8:13 pm -      #81

    OMG! All the Halo fanbois in one place!! Quick! Get a nuke or something!!!

    >.>

    <.>

    Arbiter would win, he has a strategic mind, MC just blows shit up and hopes he didn’t blow up the wrong shit.

  82. DarkJelly April 13, 2009 at 1:41 am -      #82

    “Please be careful of acting like a Communist, as it may result in horrible consequences, almost unimaginable.
    Don’t be a Communist.”
    1) Feelings and communism have no correlation. However, assuming there is one, and communists do have a tendency to be unfeeling, it would b my guess that this characteristic would have been developed due their annoyance with the input of retarded comments like yours.
    “one moment while i pick though his post of what he is saying to me.”
    2) Congrats on another epic fail, swifterdeath, to say anything constructive. Here, ill point out the cause of your argument being invalid. you say:
    “that makes no sense seeing as i have never directly picked a side. and made sure that i had not picked a side. as another thing. weither or not these where royal gaurd they still failed to have shields.”
    3) THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THEY WERE THE ROYAL GUARD. they were, which is why they thought they were hot shit, underestimated their superior spartan counterparts, and as a result, got manhandled. As for why you didnt pick a side, thats because your too naive to see the unimportance of the presence of royal guard/arbiter shlds. It simply wouldnt have mattered–they wouldve gotten pooned all the same.
    “oh he used camo instead of shields…but guess what? he still didnt have shields which helped for his downfall. wiether he sacrificed them or not HE STILL DIDNT HAVE THEM!.”
    4) Nice, a proclamation that holds no value because it was based upon a completely WRONG argument.
    “nstead of just jumping to what i said try and read back a bit. for a quick summary-”
    5) Backtracking and futhur analyzing something you said would prove worthless due to the fact that nothing you say holds meaning.
    “Arbiter would win, he has a strategic mind, MC just blows shit up and hopes he didn’t blow up the wrong shit.”
    6) OH SWEET SKRUNKS. Your so cool because your not a halo fan. YA LETS NUKE US ALL MAN! itll b awesome. Skrunks, is your life so leet that you like to take time to comment on a forum that regards things that obviously dont interest you? Are you also so smart that you remain naturally inclined to share your thoughts on things your obviously uneducated about? YA SWEET DUDE
    The sooner ppl stop making unavailing contributions, such as those ppl responsible for the quotations ive included above, the sooner all nublets sadly misguided (those that think Arby stands a chance), shall c the light. In other words, plz make semi-intelligible arguments so I can destroy them.

    MC RUNS TRAIN

  83. swifterdeath April 13, 2009 at 1:30 pm -      #83

    wow i cant beleive you came back for another go…i feel sad for you.

    “2) Congrats on another epic fail, swifterdeath, to say anything constructive. Here, ill point out the cause of your argument being invalid. you say:”

    really a epic fail? where oh yeah i see it yyou must have been talking about yourself.

    “that makes no sense seeing as i have never directly picked a side. and made sure that i had not picked a side. as another thing. weither or not these where royal gaurd they still failed to have shields.”

    “3) THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THEY WERE THE ROYAL GUARD. they were, which is why they thought they were hot shit, underestimated their superior spartan counterparts, and as a result, got manhandled. As for why you didnt pick a side, thats because your too naive to see the unimportance of the presence of royal guard/arbiter shlds. It simply wouldnt have mattered–they wouldve gotten pooned all the same.”

    i didnt say they werent royal garud. i simply said royal garud or not they failed to have shields. i didnt pick a side becouse i didnt care much for this battle. and shields are very importent.

    and no if they had shields one can not say they would have been ‘pwned’ becouse we never saw what would have happened if they had shields. your suggestion is very likly becouse of plot develpment but still supposition.

    ill finish this later.

  84. Skrunks April 13, 2009 at 5:15 pm -      #84

    “6) OH SWEET SKRUNKS. Your so cool because your not a halo fan. YA LETS NUKE US ALL MAN! itll b awesome. Skrunks, is your life so leet that you like to take time to comment on a forum that regards things that obviously dont interest you? Are you also so smart that you remain naturally inclined to share your thoughts on things your obviously uneducated about? YA SWEET DUDE”

    I appologize if I offended you, but I said that because of the pointless bickering that Halo fanboys seem to be typical of around this parts, as can be seen between you and swifterdeath. I’m actually quite the Halo Fan, I’ve played all three games and enjoyed them all very much. I even still play Halo 3 online, and the Halo Trilogy is one of my all time favorite games. Don’t judge someone because of a simple comment.

    And I really do believe Arbiter would kick MCs ass.

  85. DarkJelly April 14, 2009 at 12:05 am -      #85

    Plz repeat yourself more swifter
    and, skrunks, your seriously misguided if u think mc would win based upon your theory that
    “Arbiter would win, he has a strategic mind, MC just blows shit up and hopes he didn’t blow up the wrong shit.”
    Its undisputed that MC showed strategical prowess over the course of the games, which is why they were so successful.

  86. hotshot April 14, 2009 at 4:13 am -      #86

    Thel Vadam is stronger than the one of halo wars and john forge really beats the arbiter through trickery,if he had no combat knife he would be dead ,than the arby would fight against the 3 other spartans

  87. Just A Gamer April 17, 2009 at 8:39 am -      #87

    First of all the whole “Arby is stronger, has better shields, and can turn invisible” doesn’t really count for anything. How many Elites has MC’s killed so far? They were all stronger with better shields and could turn invisible.

    Secondly the Arbitor does not have better shields, his shield are weaker than any other elite simply because he is an Arbitor. The Arbitors are disgraced warriors who are given this “ancient” armor and sent into suicidal battles in an attempt to reclaim their honor. Point being the armor offers far less protection then the armor worn by every other covenant elite.

    In my opinion Arby’s only advantage is the energy sword he so often starts with, but countered by MC’s shotgun, I’d say he’s still fucked.

    Besides what kind of demented F***-up would vote for Arby over Master Chief?!?!?!?

  88. swifterdeath April 17, 2009 at 9:16 am -      #88

    “Besides what kind of demented F***-up would vote for Arby over Master Chief?!?!?!?”

    never did vote for arby. never voted for chief. never voted for either.

  89. DarkJelly April 18, 2009 at 4:24 pm -      #89

    “Arbiter would win, he has a strategic mind, MC just blows shit up and hopes he didn’t blow up the wrong shit.”
    MC has been educated and trained in the art of warfare since he was 7. Also, he has an A.I. with him most of the time that can compute things organic beings cannot. Theres no way an ex-shipmaster thrown into the arbiter position could hold a strategic/tactical advantage over MC and, even more likely, an MC/Cortana combination.
    Plus MC just runs train. MC>arby no doubt.

  90. swifterdeath April 18, 2009 at 7:23 pm -      #90

    “he has an A.I. with him most of the time that can compute things organic beings cannot.”

    except its been said that cortana wouldent technicly be with master chief.

  91. crippleberry May 4, 2009 at 12:40 pm -      #91

  92. 117 June 19, 2009 at 2:04 am -      #92

    Nobody wins. Master Chief and Ariber is team.

    Master Chief is Leader. Y’all wouldn’t understand unless u already read Halo Novel books.

  93. TMek June 30, 2009 at 11:57 am -      #93

    A Man with Clothes On,
    Why are you picking fights you little retard?
    1) MC doesnt have stronger shields than other spartans nor other elites for that matter, spartan energy shields are reversed engineered from the covenant jackal shields. on halo 2 most elites have the same shields as MC, its just the game would be harder if elites were like MC.
    2) WTF is an insult book? This suggests you obviously own one instead of using that thing you call knowledge

    Eventhough Arbiter is powerful with his energy sword and camo, MC is faster and has more agility (proven on halo wars cutscene), MC saw arbiter while in camo on halo 3 openin scene.

    Also MC is a good sniper while arbiter might not be a good sniper as MC

  94. Captain Epic July 6, 2009 at 7:45 pm -      #94

    @admin

    What wepons doe each fighter have?

  95. admin July 7, 2009 at 12:11 am -      #95

    MC: Shotgun and Sniper
    Arbiter: Sword and Sniper

  96. elitezealot July 15, 2009 at 8:38 am -      #96

    These ar mine arguments why arby is stronger (sorry for my grammar errors, ik just 14 years old and i come from holland) in therms of hand to hand combat

    1. I dont know if you guys notice, but in the cutscene of floodgate u see that the arbiter is wielding a 55 kg weighting weapon with just one hand

    2. MC may be kidnapped when he was 6 years old, and then trained for the rest of his life. But the arbiter was a zealot and to attain a rank like that, u most have killed countless enemies. And the arbiter is a elite, and like saiyans, the whole race is in the militairy.

    3. MC is a spartan II supersoldier. He has enhanced strength,reflexes and speed. But he will only hit as hard,jump has high, and run as fast in the game with his mark 6 suit. Because he has a liquid crystal layer which improves his strength and reflexes. But without it he will be a little weaker than he is in gameplay. But arby only has a ancient armor wich exist of some armorplating and some kind of panty. And he can jump as high, hit as hard, and run as fast as masterchief. So if MC is naked while he fight arby, he would stand a little chance in hand to hand combat.

    4. Look at the anatomy and pscygologie of arby and MC. Arby is more masculair than the chief and taller. And look at the form of arbys legs. They have more joints so he can run faster,jump higher and survive great falls, but with legs like these, they arent good at glimbing

    So for short, Arby is stronger in terms of strength,speed endurance. But MC has better reflexes (0,2 seconds) with his mark 6 battle suit. So it may be just a tie.

  97. wtf bomber July 25, 2009 at 10:06 pm -      #97

    In SC, this wuld go under destined fights. MC would stand a good chance, but if its about stealth, Arbiter. Wait, is it Halo Wars Arbiter?

  98. REAPER3fitty August 5, 2009 at 12:24 am -      #98

    whoever says that spartans are stronger than elites is WRONG. do your research and find out that they are evenly matched. but elites do it without armor and genetic modification. also cortana would do no good in a fight but as a distraction

  99. Alex August 11, 2009 at 2:09 am -      #99

    If you are talking about the Master Chief and The Arbiter in the games, then you guys need to cool it down. In the games the Chief and The Arbiter are equally matched because they both have energy shields, they both have superior abilities, and both of them have access to every weapon and almost every vehicle in the game! The only real differences in the game between them are, the looks, the cloaking , and the flashlight. If you set up a real life deathmatch, the winner would be the one that actually uses tactics to their advantage.

  100. Tevastator September 19, 2009 at 5:30 am -      #100

    u guys r dumb mc will kill the arbiter he has cortana strenght speed skill and luck and arbiter has his camouflage which is useless against cortana their shields are the same the 17 arbiter lost 2 a captain on halo wars and mc will kill the captain so u do the math.MC WINS ARBITER LOSES DEAL WITH IT.

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