Superman Vs Thor

Superman Vs Thor

You know it’s a major fight when each combatant only has one name, and no one will get confused as to who is being talked about.

I think the knee-jerk reaction is to give the victory to Superman – but would that be the ultimate outcome?

What say you?

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627 Comments on "Superman Vs Thor"

  1. Krypto Lowk March 20, 2013 at 7:53 pm -      #601

    “or transmution are also valid options for Thor, right?”
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    I gave an example of Supes resisting transmutation about 2 pages ago.

  2. Krypto Lowk March 20, 2013 at 7:54 pm -      #602

    Well, 3 pages ago now.

  3. GuardianAngel1911 Warden of Demonreach prison for Eldritch Abominations March 20, 2013 at 8:01 pm -      #603

    also draining heat vision would work completely
    i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir145b-EnergyAbsorptionAve.jpg
    if he could drain all of X-Ray’s energy as well as what was blasted, why couldn’t he do the same with Supes solar radiation, same principle but different energy.

  4. Kitten Lord March 20, 2013 at 8:01 pm -      #604

    @Vunder

    You miss the point, if their operating under rule of cool and not physical law you cant use math to find out their force and power and you have to logically use their universes power level.

    And I am not talking about Bayonettas powers more so how she can do things like headbutt skyscrapers and other crazy things, as you said, rule of cool.

  5. VunderGuy March 20, 2013 at 8:05 pm -      #605

    @Kitten Lord

    Yet we are, so kindly, drop the subject because, if you bring this up, the majority of arguments/victories on this site wouldn’t hold true even though most of them do.

    Gameplay mechanics?

    What IS her strength level?

  6. GuardianAngel1911 Warden of Demonreach prison for Eldritch Abominations March 20, 2013 at 8:14 pm -      #606

    @Lowk
    Superman:
    powered by sunlight
    super strength to rival Thor
    Heat Vision
    etc.
    Hyperion:
    see Superman’s power set
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    so same powers as Hyperion, if Supes uses up his reserves and has to go above the clouds contrary to your opinion Thor is smart enough to put the connection together. Hyperion and Supes are identical in powers, Thor has been able to notice the subtle similarities and differences in the powers of the various Hyperions he’s fought before and Hyperion explained that just like Superman his only required nourishment is Sunlight. Superman is identicle in every aspect but name and costume, Thor is smart enough to if nothing else assume Superman is yet another alternate Hyperion, one that since he is attacking Thor is likely another psychotic evil Hyperion. Your insulting Thor’s deductive reasoning as being on Hulks level if you think otherwise.

  7. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets March 20, 2013 at 8:14 pm -      #607

    “I thought bloodlust was on for BOTH of them.”
    Blood lusted meaning Warrior Madness Thor? Well, multiply every strength feat Thor has done by ten.
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    @Amm0 I’m going to guess solar system, possibly galaxy, seeing as these two can literally lay waste to anything smaller.
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    @Lowk So, no counter to the intangibility thing? Cool.
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    @Aelfinn I only know of one other time, but that time Thor was helped out by Loki. According to the wiki, he does have it though, and invisibility apparently.
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    According to this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkwtHpPx6SI while Thor may of lost the ability to go back or forward in time, he still has the ability to stop it. Does Supes have a counter to that?

  8. VunderGuy March 20, 2013 at 8:18 pm -      #608

    @CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets

    Bloodlust meaning that BOTH are going all out to kill each other with their NORMAL set of powers (unless you can prove that Warrior’s Madness is something Thor regularly has access to at present).

  9. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets March 20, 2013 at 8:18 pm -      #609

    “I gave an example of Supes resisting transmutation about 2 pages ago.”
    My bad, so no transmutation.

  10. Kitten Lord March 20, 2013 at 8:21 pm -      #610

    @Vlunder

    If you calculate math concering things that dont abide by physical law then your simply making a fallacious act. Nobody would have to use those calculations if their from nothing.

    And no not true, a lot of arguments/victories on the site have better gauges than our basic math for feats.

    Bayonettas strength level? unknown, hard to say, its just not mathmatically calculable but I guess you can just point out the things she can do and compare them to another, you dont need math to always determine who is stronger.

    Just some things, like the Asuras wrath universe look stronger than they really are.

    @Allergic to bullets

    “he still has the ability to stop it. Does Supes have a counter to that?”

    This line of thought is interesting, I like crhonomanipulation.

  11. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets March 20, 2013 at 8:28 pm -      #611

    “This line of thought is interesting, I like crhonomanipulation.”
    Yup. I’m surprised no one’s brought them up before. On the Dark Schneider vs Thor thread the first page had Guardian and Harbinger post a lot of time controlling feats for Thor.

  12. Shgon Dunstan March 20, 2013 at 8:35 pm -      #612

    @CH1C4N0444
    “Yup. I’m surprised no one’s brought them up before. On the Dark Schneider vs Thor thread the first page had Guardian and Harbinger post a lot of time controlling feats for Thor.”
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    While I’m no expert in Thor, I’m pretty sure that the reason it hasn’t been brought up, is that those powers were expressly striped from him years and years ago….
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    But like I said, I’m no Thor expert, I just seem to remember it being talked about in one thread or another.

  13. Krypto Lowk March 20, 2013 at 8:36 pm -      #613

    ” New Hyperion has told Thor his powers are based on sunlight absorption, weaker ozone’s give him more power.”
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    Supes isn’t Hyperion. Superfamily so far has shown that all pure sun juice does is make you grow/develop quicker. After that they recharge pretty quickly just by being out in the sun.
    ===
    ” If they are fighting below cloud cover and Supes does start to weaken”
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    Clouds have not have not shown to be that much of a hindrance to Supes absorption. Thor would have to get him underground or someplace light can’t reach.
    ===
    “then when Supes flies above clouds instead of continuing the Battle Thor”
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    Or again Superman does something less subtle then “I’M GOING TO GO THE SUN TO CHARGE K?”, he can be more subtle.
    Like
    -Punching Thor hard enough to go flyin up into the sky(he’s actually done this to Kara when she kept being violent). Then follow up with another attack to make it seem like he was just an attack.
    -or dodging while engage him until he positions himself in a better location.
    -Even using Thor to knock him away would help.
    He has a few way of getting Thor there with him realizing sunlight=superman. Hell the fight itself is probably going to open up a lot of space for sunlight to get through. He doesn’t need to break combat to get sunlight when the combat itself can help achive that long before he get’s drained.
    Both these guy are probably going to be damaging the surrounding enough that chances are they’ll be airborne anyway.
    Supes may not be a strategic genius like Batman but he’s not stupid.
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    “Your thinking of Hulk if you think Thor is dumb enough not to put two and two together.”
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    No I’m thinking that Supes doesn’t need to brake the fight and drop obvious clues to what he’s doing .
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    “There’s still just sucking the life force out of it and leaving deadmummy in Supermans place.”
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    Well Graves could do something
    simplydcu.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/justice-league-10-wonder-woman-suffers.jpg?w=762
    Admittedly at first it worked on Supes. However, seems it only worked due to spirit pretending on be his parents.
    When he realized they weren’t he resisted the life sucking.
    www.the-medium-is-not-enough.com/images/JL12_10.jpg

  14. GuardianAngel1911 Warden of Demonreach prison for Eldritch Abominations March 20, 2013 at 8:41 pm -      #614

    Hyperion sinister doesn’t get affected by a full force hammer blow
    i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHyperion01Avengers070.jpg
    Hyperion supreme/good does get affected, Thor realizes there’s something off about that and comments and all it takes is Hype g to say they’ve never met for Thor to realize this is the other Hyperion, since at the time there were only two
    i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHyperion03280.jpg
    since Thor has met a third now, the powers are identacle if not the suits, and Thor isn’t dense he should be able to figure out Superman is either just a guy with the exact same powers or yet another alternate version. Not many mortals have actually matched Thor, half of them being Hyperions.

  15. GuardianAngel1911 Warden of Demonreach prison for Eldritch Abominations March 20, 2013 at 8:44 pm -      #615

    @Lowk
    Thor just rips it out like he does other energy, doesn’t need mind tricks.
    second link doesn’t work in that post fyi.
    -
    Also if there’s storm clouds over the entire planet, he doesn’t immediately go out into the upper atmosphere, how will he get more sunlight.

  16. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets March 20, 2013 at 8:46 pm -      #616

    @Shgun Dunstan www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkwtHpPx6SI This video explains it. His forward/backward time powers are gone, but not the ability to stop it.

  17. Commander Cross March 20, 2013 at 8:47 pm -      #617

    @CH1 at #616

    Funny enough, your post is the number of the Main Marvel Universe in the Comics.
    Funnier than that, its one of the numbers of the Beast. :lol: (AHEM brought it up to me one time when he was still around, actually!)

  18. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets March 20, 2013 at 8:50 pm -      #618

    @Cross Tis true. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkZqFtYtqaI

  19. Krypto Lowk March 20, 2013 at 9:04 pm -      #619

    “Thor just rips it out like he does other energy, doesn’t need mind tricks.”
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    The mind trick were they only thing keeping him busy. Without them he just resisted.
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    “Also if there’s storm clouds over the entire planet, he doesn’t immediately go out into the upper atmosphere, how will he get more sunlight.”
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    1. Why would Thor immediately do that.
    2. Light still gets through Clouds.
    3. There are other ways he has other then just leaving for sunlight.
    4. 5 days at the center of earth. He wasn’t under clouds or in some building, he was in a place where sunlight couldn’t reach him. Lasted 5 days still had hit powers.
    Your telling me clouds and the surroundings are going to be left with these two exchanging blows?
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    “Also if there’s storm clouds over the entire planet, he doesn’t immediately go out into the upper atmosphere, how will he get more sunlight.”
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    Let’s see he looks nothing like him, dresses nothing like him.
    Not to mention superhuman strength, speed, durability isn’t exactly uncommon in marvel.
    He could be an alternate version of an asgardian or a fellow god. There also Count neferia, Smasher, and Gladiator.
    But your telling me Supes is going to just break off to go to the sun to charge even though he doesn’t need to, that would leave him open, Thor knows exactly to think he’s fuctions similar to hyperion, and that Supes has no other way of getting sunlight?

  20. Shgon Dunstan March 20, 2013 at 9:08 pm -      #620

    @CH1C4N0444
    “This video explains it. His forward/backward time powers are gone, but not the ability to stop it.”
    -
    Video would be better if the pages in it were readable, and “he used time-stop all of once ten years later=he still has it” seems like a bit of a weak argument to me, but…. Meh, like I said, don’t know a hell of a lot about comic Thor, so I’m not well equipped to get into a debate on the matter.

  21. Krypto Lowk March 20, 2013 at 9:22 pm -      #621

    “Does Supes have a counter to that?”
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    Punching him while he’s trying to prep to do that ability. He seems to require spinning the hammer.
    Also judging by the last scan the time stop seems to have been reduce to a short range so not exactly useful here against someone with the speed supes has.

  22. Krypto Lowk March 20, 2013 at 9:33 pm -      #622

    “and that Supes has no other way of getting sunlight?”
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    Meant “of getting to sunlight or sun getting to him.”

  23. Marcel March 20, 2013 at 10:40 pm -      #623

    @ Vunderguy
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    “I thought bloodlust was on for BOTH of them.”
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    It is, but Superman is WAAAAAY faster than Thor. So Thor still needs to figure out how to slow Supes down.
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    Also about the physics deal, me and Kitten’s point is not that the feats themselves aren’t usable, they are just very broke. Physics still works in the world of Superheroes, the writers just give them ability to break the laws of physics, turn them inside out, and pretty much use them as their doormat. It doesn’t take away from anything the characters have done; it just shows how comic writing can get out of hand.
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    @ Ammo
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    “I think so,since it helps Superman work at his max”
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    Actually, a blue sun makes him at max, but yellow is the most logical choice, seeing as we have basically no feats for New 52 Supes outside of a yellow sun…
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    @ Aelfinn
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    “Now, I question I must ask is how fast is Thor’s RT? I posted scans a while back demonstrating very slow RT, and if the gap between Thor and Superman is big enough, Thor’s strength won’t come into play.”
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    I did a calc for Thor blocking what looked to be a laserbeam a while back. The feat put him at about ten times slower than nanosecond RT, and hundreds of times above microsecond RT. Still, Supes has fought with and hit the Flash, which has femtosecond RT.
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    @ Guardian
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    “Very well then, I shall block the sun’s ray’s from his body with the might of the storm god”
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    How fast can Thor create cloud cover, exactly? And what’s to stop Supes from ripping through it before the lightning has a chance to tag him?
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    @ Cross
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    “Funny enough, your post is the number of the Main Marvel Universe in the Comics.”
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    Only you would notice that so quickly, lol
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    “Funnier than that, its one of the numbers of the Beast.”
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    Actually, the mark of the Beast is 666. However, I find it interesting how close it is to the number 6116 (which is Romans 1:16, depending on how you divide it up). :)

  24. Amm0vamp1r3 March 20, 2013 at 10:44 pm -      #624

    Ahh yes he is Maxed with blue,but yea what you said makes sense

  25. Marcel March 20, 2013 at 10:46 pm -      #625

    @ Ammo
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    And in some ways, blue sun Supes would be close to Odinforce. Not cool.

  26. VunderGuy March 20, 2013 at 10:50 pm -      #626

    @Marcel

    And the real legit Superman Prime (not that Super Bitch prime whiny halfwit murderer) would be swallow the Odinforce whole. Even not cooler.

  27. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets March 21, 2013 at 1:17 am -      #627

    “I did a calc for Thor blocking what looked to be a laserbeam a while back. The feat put him at about ten times slower than nanosecond RT, and hundreds of times above microsecond RT. Still, Supes has fought with and hit the Flash, which has femtosecond RT.”
    So, if tagging Flash gives Supes femtosecond RT, does trading blows with Silver Surfer give Thor nanosecond, possibly faster RT/Movement?
    media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/35192/1292558-marvelcomicspresents001fk4_super.jpg
    Not that it’d fully close the gap, but still closes the gap nonetheless. Of course, that is if you guys accept this as something to use for Thor since he’s regularly traded blows with him.
    hero-envy.blogspot.com/2012/05/thor-vs-silver-surfer.html
    Website with a list of their fights.

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