Master Chief vs Gordon Freeman

Master Chief vs Gordon Freeman

A long time in the making, finally got to this match. While both have sutis/armor that are designed to withstand damage and dish out punishment as well, it’s hard for me to see how MC would lose this fight.

What say you?

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96 Comments on "Master Chief vs Gordon Freeman"

  1. Tim March 13, 2009 at 5:43 am -      #1

    Finally, I’ve been looking forward to this one. I think this would be a very close fight and I’m still not sure who would win, although I do want Gordon Freeman to win as he one of my favourite video game characters. Most of Gordon’s weapons are better then Master Chief’s equivalent ones, but Master Chief’s physical abilities are far superior to Gordon’s so if he get’s close he could just beat him to death.

  2. L-W March 13, 2009 at 9:24 am -      #2

    Is this even a fight? I wasn’t aware (Despite the myriad of weaponry presently available) that Gordon Freeman had much of a chance worthy of even considering it to be a contest.

  3. Thepocalypse March 13, 2009 at 11:25 am -      #3

    Two men who nearly single-handedly took out alien empires.
    Master Chief definitely wins in combat, but we cannot deny that Gordon Freeman is the cooler character. He’s just so mysterious and you feel like his emotions are yours.

  4. AlphaCommando March 13, 2009 at 12:39 pm -      #4

    I would hardly make that much of a paradigm comparing both MC and Freeman’s achievements, MC has fought exponentially more foes armed with far better armor and technology, Freeman took on a city’s worth (and some additional) of what amounted to slightly beefed-up humans with modern weaponry (for the most part)….

    Look at how many enemies you come across in the game, a cluster of more than like…5 guys in HL2 can mean big trouble, MC walks away from an entire platoon unscathed….Now that’s a simple analysis but MC being built for battle is a far, far superior combatant.

    And the whole reason for the mysterious feel is to allow you to connect with the character so you can imagine yourself as him, that’s why he never talks or does anything, you’re suppose to fill in the dialogue and emotions by yourself (if your mind works like that).

  5. Thepocalypse March 13, 2009 at 1:58 pm -      #5

    Freeman did it with a crowbar, sub-par weapons, and a flimsy suit of armour that Marcus Fenix would scoff at.

  6. L-W March 13, 2009 at 7:59 pm -      #6

    And? Mario undermined an entire Empire leaping on the heads of his opponents. The thematic standpoint of a protagonists unraveling of an overt Alien force (Gordon has yet to actually fight the Combine themselves) is not sufficient.

    That’s hardly a distinct analytical standpoint to form an argument. What we have to take into account is the variables present (Ordinance, armour, respective strength and durability etc.) based on canonical and observable evidence.

  7. Locutus March 14, 2009 at 1:56 am -      #7

    I would say Master Chief would win this one.

    But in the end, Half-Life pwns Halo.

  8. Thepocalypse March 14, 2009 at 1:22 pm -      #8

    “But in the end, Half-Life pwns Halo.”
    Amen to that. I don’t like the gameplay near as much as Halo’s, but the story is so epic it’s like the greatest movie ever made and you’re the main character. Also, I can’t help but love PWNing the authorities.

  9. Locutus March 14, 2009 at 3:41 pm -      #9

    The Halo games just bore me. Yea it may be the greatest console game or whatever, but to me(a PC gamer) it’s just another one of those medicore FPS games that I’d play for a few hours and then forget.

  10. Thepocalypse March 15, 2009 at 10:11 am -      #10

    Single player yeah, but Halo 3’s forge is an epic inclusion for us Non-Haxxorz.

  11. DeathBite66 March 15, 2009 at 2:02 pm -      #11

    i say the gorman why he can like use his gravidey gun and trow things like saws explodeind barrels…head crab…….and my be steal MC weapion….and them trow them at him…i don’t know

  12. Master Arbiter(Spartan G44) March 15, 2009 at 3:57 pm -      #12

    Ilike both games….. But I will say Master Chief because he has much better tech and more wepons. But it would be close.

  13. L-W March 15, 2009 at 8:17 pm -      #13

    “i say the gorman why he can like use his gravidey gun and trow things like saws explodeind barrels…head crab…….and my be steal MC weapion….and them trow them at him…i don’t know”

    …Ok? I presume you mean the Gravity Gun? Even if that were the case, don’t you think Master Chief would respond in kind if he witnessed his opponent slowly drawing objects towards the pintle of his rather cumbersome device?

  14. Onesidedfight March 15, 2009 at 10:25 pm -      #14

    The only chance that gorden has is with the blue gravity gun that can pick up or blast a way anything and everything, if he does have it, I’m not sure if it would pick the chief up or if it would just blast him away.

  15. L-W March 16, 2009 at 1:38 am -      #15

    The Dark Energy Zero Point Energy Device? The one created as a result of a nearby Dark Energy reactor core going partially critical and unleashing torrent upon torrent of Combine energy?

    The weapon would be incredibly effective against the Chief (I’ve used it in the past to lift and toss Antlion Guardians, Combine armoured Vehicles and even Gunships), but the incidences under which this weapon appears are almost too circumstantial to even consider.

  16. El Zilcho March 16, 2009 at 2:27 am -      #16

    I think DeathBite66 means the beefed up version of the gravity gun at the end of HL 2 (the blue one). However, there still a couple of flaws with this plan:
    a) The Chief weights a half ton in armour.
    b) It still doesn’t take much to kill Gordon (anyone notice the lack of head protection, someone hasn’t been reading the safety first manuals).
    c) The Chief has a humongous advantage in accuracy and reflex time
    d) The much loved/loathed luck factor. While many people are completely against this abstract attribute, he is stated to be lucky by the in-game opening of Halo 3 and ridiculously lucky in the novels (I think the Fall of Reach). While I understand luck only goes so far (it isn’t going to help him take on the Hulk) it does help vs Freeman.

  17. Thepocalypse March 16, 2009 at 6:08 am -      #17

    Just a thought: Normally, humans are not affected by the gravity gun, but since most of MC is just the Mjolnir armor, couldn’t Freeman toss him around with that? And if that didn’t work, he could use the physics gun and totally control the chief.
    I got the idea from Halomen 2.

  18. L-W March 16, 2009 at 8:22 pm -      #18

    “I think DeathBite66 means the beefed up version of the gravity gun at the end of HL 2 (the blue one).”

    Yes, that’s why I referred to it as the Dark Energy Zero Point Energy Device as in my post.

    “but since most of MC is just the Mjolnir armor, couldn’t Freeman toss him around with that?”

    The Gravity Gun is extremely limited to the mass and density it can manipulate, including that of organic bodies. If it cannot lift, manipulate or even budge an 80Kg Washing Machine, how do you suppose it would fare against a 500Kg armoured Organism?

    “And if that didn’t work, he could use the physics gun and totally control the chief.”

    The Physics Gun is a non-canon developer tool hidden in the source code and unlocked via mods or the manipulation of the developer code only. Not a part of Gordon’s arsenal.

  19. Thepocalypse March 17, 2009 at 7:24 am -      #19

    “The Physics Gun is a non-canon developer tool hidden in the source code and unlocked via mods or the manipulation of the developer code only. Not a part of Gordon’s arsenal.”
    GMod is an official product now. You are granted the physics gun while playing as Gordon Freeman. That’s good enough for me.
    “it cannot lift, manipulate or even budge an 80Kg Washing Machine”
    Um… have you even played HL2? Multiple puzzles include the movement of larger objects than that. You simply use the push function rather than the grab and throw maneuver. If it can move a pick-up, it can at least knock over the chief.

  20. L-W March 17, 2009 at 9:25 am -      #20

    Gmod, although sold on Steam, is not official canon, therefore the Physics Gun is not officially a part of Gordon’s arsenal. Not only have I played the game, I seem to have a better understanding of it than you.

    “Um… have you even played HL2? Multiple puzzles include the movement of larger objects than that. You simply use the push function rather than the grab and throw maneuver. If it can move a pick-up, it can at least knock over the chief.”


    Clearly I’ve played Half-Life 2 since my conception of the abilities therein associated with the Zero Point Energy Device is sufficient enough as to gauge its output. It can nudge a vastly stripped down pick-up or a few scattered Cars (Which after ten years of exposure weigh nowhere near the same amount as the Chief), yes, but only at point-blank range and with only enough force as to budge it slightly away from the nuzzle.

    Master Chief has the advantage of not only weighing half a ton (As I mentioned, the heaviest objects pushed in the game do not compare to the chief in weight) but being an Organism. Now in the case of lighter Organisms such as Headcrabs or Antlions…

    (Despite their size, Antlions would be incredibly light in mass and density – They are Insects after all.)

    …There is a noticeable effect of the ZPED actually manipulating the gravity field of an Organic structure, but in larger and far more dense Organisms, such as Combine Overwatch, Hunters, Combine Synth Crabs, Vortigaunts and Antlion Guards it is a fruitless effort, it seems an Animal with sufficient mass suffers no obvious grievance. Where the ZPED is concerned, size does matter.

    A fact that Master Chief could exploit by, standing there and doing nothing, since the device would have no effect beyond embarrassing Freeman moments before death.

  21. Assboy March 18, 2009 at 10:24 am -      #21

    Is this a joke?MC would easily kill Gordon!!!I haven’t played Half-Life but I’m sure that MC wins!One slash with the sword and Gordon is dead.

  22. Thepocalypse March 18, 2009 at 12:58 pm -      #22

    Yeah, that explains why I can shoot a car like five meters over a cliff from at least 6 decimeters away.

  23. L-W March 18, 2009 at 6:32 pm -      #23

    Considering I’ve never budged a scrap Car more than several feet, or shifted one of the stripped down in-game vehicles such as the Air boat or the 1969 Dodge Charger beyond the slightest of nudges, I would say that you are either:

    A) Lying.
    B) A victim of hyperbole.
    C) A victim of a glitch.
    D) Telling the truth but fail to see the bigger picture.

    Either way, it still does not take into account how a large, bipedal organism would be effected by the Gravity Gun. when smaller or even more heavily armoured opponents (A Hunter can sustain two Rocket blasts, multiple Shotgun rounds and around three full chambers of Magnum fire – On medium difficulty) are impervious to being manipulated by the Zero Point Energy field.

  24. Thepocalypse March 18, 2009 at 7:55 pm -      #24

    I do not like being called a liar. My personal philosophy of morality denies me the privilege of falsehood. It is unjust.

  25. L-W March 18, 2009 at 8:40 pm -      #25

    Good for you and your absolutist and unfeasible morality, too bad you have yet to prove anything.

  26. x on March 18, 2009 at 9:18 pm -      #26

    Master Chief wins

  27. Thepocalypse March 19, 2009 at 6:15 am -      #27

    “Good for you and your absolutist and unfeasible morality, too bad you have yet to prove anything.”
    It isn’t unfeasible. I do not tell pointless lies that don’t get me anywhere. Were it necessary to spare someone’s feelings or avoid a nasty scenario I would. But I see no point in lying to people to win an argument. I suggest you think before you jump to conclusions in future.
    I had no further point to make. I was merely asking that you trust me, as I will not lie here. What would be the point?

  28. L-W March 19, 2009 at 9:17 am -      #28

    Anthropologically Humans are deceptive animals, a trait that has evolved in parallel with our altruistic tendencies to cope with a fledgling hierarchical order through primitive Tribalism. Even our own Brain deliberately fools our sense of conscious, by creating false memories, habitual regressive behaviour, logical fallacies (The perception of luck is the most common of these) false sensations and even cobbles together various images to form sight even when you are totally blind (Did you know that every time your eye moves the Optical nerve literally shuts down for less than a milisecond? To compensate the Brain creates an image of what it thinks should be there).

    Deception is not uncommon or something to be shamed of, because most of the time you don’t even realise that you’re lying, you literally cannot consciously verify whether or not you’ve told the truth.

    So whenever you hear someone claim that they never lie, you know they are lying.

  29. Only The Nose Knows March 19, 2009 at 3:54 pm -      #29

    I wear my dads dirty socks

  30. Thepocalypse March 19, 2009 at 6:21 pm -      #30

    I do lie, but not for trivial reasons like winning an argument. I can’t bring myself to do it. It’s worse than losing the argument because of the guilt.

  31. The One Sin March 19, 2009 at 6:39 pm -      #31

    “I wear my dads dirty socks”

    Not if wear them first.

  32. Thepocalypse March 19, 2009 at 7:05 pm -      #32

    “Not if wear them first.”
    Too bad for both of you, I’m already wearing them.

  33. kano547 March 19, 2009 at 7:40 pm -      #33

    i only lie to women cause that the only time the truth can cause me physical harm

  34. Only The Nose Knows March 20, 2009 at 7:36 pm -      #34

    I miss my dad cause he is never home :(

  35. kano547 March 21, 2009 at 5:28 am -      #35

    i dont lie pathologically only when women ask me questions and most of the time even when i tell them what they want to hear i still get smacked upside the head. explain that to me

  36. kano547 March 21, 2009 at 5:31 am -      #36

    and i almost never really lie its just im good at seeing the truth as i want to. and telling what happend just not all of it.

  37. Thepocalypse March 21, 2009 at 9:06 am -      #37

    “i dont lie pathologically only when women ask me questions”
    Always lie to women. It’s easier that way.

  38. Space marine March 23, 2009 at 12:34 am -      #38

    I agree….With thepocalypse
    It is always easier to lie to women. I think i will be called a Certain Name starting with G…>.>

  39. a nerd May 22, 2009 at 6:53 pm -      #39

    HELLO, has every one forgoten half life1?! gordan freeman was taking on giant tentacled horrers right and left and had almost no combat training or any idea what was going on.
    MC, however had a life time of combat simulations on a known enemy, meaning that acsept for the flood, he knew every thing the covies were thinking, as well as thier mothers maiden names.
    again with the HL1, freeman was taking on enemys that would put a pack of hunters to shame useing a crowbar and a Ph.D….
    Freeman wins, and you should do more research on your enemys.

  40. Marche May 22, 2009 at 9:07 pm -      #40

    That…….doesnt prove anything actually.

  41. TheSorrow May 22, 2009 at 9:35 pm -      #41

    Yeah you need better comments than that to get people on Freeman’s side. Also, I have played Half-Life and the monsters in there are nothing like compared to hunters. They might be a even match for grunts.( That’s right, I said it.)

  42. Atl June 11, 2009 at 1:23 am -      #42

    Actualy, if Gordon had the dark energy gun, he could easily throw the chief. Even though master chief is an organism, his suit would be his downfall. Just like how it could grab combine elites, who are primarily armor and machinery, he could pick up MC’s suit and throw him around. Now the weight issue. The dark energy gun could easily tear a very large console and monitor from the wall, as well as fling them at least 100 feet. I don’t know if it would instantly kill the cheif as it I’d the combine, but it could throw him quite far. However the normal gravity gun would only knock the chief over. Without the dark energy gun, it would be very hard for Gordon to win, unless of course he had his RPG. We must remember that Gordon can carry far more weapons than the cheif. Let’s compare:

    GF. MC.

    The crowbar vs. Sword. Sword wins in power, but the crowbar doesn’t run out of ammo.

    Pistol vs. Pistol about even

    Magnum vs. Revolver. The magnum in half life 2 is extremely powerful and accurate, but has a slow reload and ammo count, though still manages to win.

    SMG vs SMG. The halo SMG has a faster firing rate and is more accurate, but about the same on power. However, the half life SMG has a grenade launcher, so I have to give it to HL2.

    Ar2 vs Assault Rifle. The Ar2 is stronger and more accurate, but has a smaller ammo count and firing rate. However, the Ar2 has the combine ball launcher, which incinerates enemies on touch. Give it to the ar2.

    Shotgun vs assault shotgun. When it comes right down to it, they’re both shotguns, so a tie.

    Crossbow vs Sniper Rifle. The crossbow kills enemies no matter where you hit, but has a lower scope, slower reload time, and the bullet travels slower, so the sniper rifle wins this one.

    Rpg vs Rpg. The half life rpg is laser guided but slower. Equal on power. Tie.

    Grenade vs standard grenade. Tie.

    Bugbait vs… uh… skip that one.

    So the tally is Half Life 3, Halo 2.

    But let’s compare the aliens they fought now.

    Heacrabs Vs. Flood. There are usually more flood, but headcrabs don’t die on impact. Plus, aside from the regular breed, there are poison headcrabs which bring you to 1 health temporarily, and fast headcrabs. The non zombie versions have headcrabs as the victors.

    Now the standard zombie in half life is slower and cannot use guns, but is a tiny bit more resilient because their limbs can’t fall off. Still, this goes to the food.

    Poison zombie vs. Exploding flood. The poison zombie can hurl up to 3 poison headcrabs very far, and takes a lot to kill. The explosive zombie hurts more on impact, but the flood it releases are much less threatening. Point to headcrabs

    I don’t know what to compare fast or zombine to, so headcrabs win. (that’s only 1 point overall though.

    Now, grunts vs metrocops. Grunts are stupid, have shit aim, sleep on the job, run away, don’t use anything to their tactical advantage, don’t use team tactics and pretty much die by just looking at them. Metrocops chuck explosive barrels, don’t run, use squad tactics, have okay aim, and at least require you to look at them. Metrocops all the way.

    Elites vs elites. In halo, elites are a force to be reckoned with. They can cloak, use swords and are much stronger. Halo elites win, no doubt.

    Hunter vs. Hunter. They both are fast, have deadly weapons and travel in packs. However halo’s hunters are much bigger, so of goes to halo.

    Strider vs brute. Striders are bigger, have machine guns and über penis cannons, and can impale people by stepping on them. To the strider.

    However, the covenant has a much larger army (that we’ve seen so far) so halo wins there. (not gonna talk about antlions, nothing to compare them to.)

    So weapons, half life wins, enemies halo wins. One last tiebreaker

    Suit vs Suit

    Chief’s suit wins

    In a fight, MC would win, even though I prefer half life. But I think you are all missing the point. The two would team up and beat every other videogame character in existence. The end.

    And I can totalynsee Gman and Kortana hooking up.

  43. John June 28, 2009 at 9:45 am -      #43

    ok gordan can kill master chief because he has a gravity gun (F*** that). master chief will own with any other type of guns, MC will definitely beat the hell out four-eyes hand to hand, and who ever said that a crow bar can beat a energy sword how dumb are you, really. why would they even say this is a good fight

  44. TheSorrow June 28, 2009 at 12:57 pm -      #44

    You can’t compare the Striders against the Brutes. It has to be Scarabs which they totally dominate the Striders.

  45. x on June 28, 2009 at 1:51 pm -      #45


    LOOK! its a noob.

  46. John July 2, 2009 at 7:51 pm -      #46

    @ panda fucker (x on)

    x on-“LOOK! its a noob hehehehehehehehehehe im so funny”
    don’t be mad that you suck hairy balls a halo ok you little gay f@g

  47. Defnist47 July 3, 2009 at 10:43 pm -      #47

    Even if Gordon can’t pick master chief up he could always take his weapons to disarm him and kill him :P

  48. Kaith July 8, 2009 at 2:42 pm -      #48

    In a fair fight, most likely MC would win. However that’s only if you assume that Gordon Freeman can’t use the Dark Energy Field Manipulator. Given that it can easily chuck cars around like toys, even if Gordon can’t pick him up, MC would be sent miles away with a single punt. Not to mention that the radiation it emits is instantly lethal upon contact with any other organism. Excluding that, MC has the best chance. Then again, I would like to see how MC takes a fully charged Tau Cannon shot from the original Half Life…

    I’m also wondering if we’re considering their allies as well. I don’t think any of MCs dime-a-dozen marine buddies could stop a few angry Vortigaunts, let alone the Gman. The Arbiter could come in handy though. But then I’d give Gordon Freeman the help of Adrian Shephard and… This wouldn’t just be a battle, it’d be a full scale war. ;)

    But of course, the real answer is that neither would win. Both would be consumed in the explosion of awesomeness that would result from them being in proximity of one another.

  49. A Man with Clothes On August 3, 2009 at 10:34 pm -      #49

    “MC vs. Gordon Freeman”

    When I read this on the choice thingy, I thought at first it said Morgan Freeman.

  50. Marche August 3, 2009 at 11:30 pm -      #50

    Morgan would destroy MC with ease.
    His power is too great,pretty much omnipotence.

  51. Captain Epic August 21, 2009 at 11:05 pm -      #51

    I take back what I said awhile ago. After beating Half-Life 2 and seeing the Physics Gun I belive Dr. Freeman has the advantage. Gordon ftw.

  52. Troy October 15, 2009 at 11:44 pm -      #52

    it seems to be a pretty hard match up, never played Half-Life though, but from what i read it seems the gravity gun is pretty effective, but, everyone has forgotten (at least most of you) that master chief has 4X the regular reflex time of a human with his armor, and his genetic inhancments, when he was 12 he beat 4 ODST’s in a fight, and im pretty sure that he killed 2, so even if gordon took his weapons, he would still have super speed, strength, and reflex time, so MC would win

  53. Baron Somebody October 16, 2009 at 12:24 am -      #53

    “I think i will be called a Certain Name starting with G…>.>” -Space Marine


  54. Anthony V. October 19, 2009 at 1:15 am -      #54

    It’s pretty amusing to see people here enhancing their argument by using unnecessarily larger and more complicated words. It’s kind of silly when you consider how the outcome of this doesn’t really matter. But don’t get me wrong, I love an intellegent conversation. Anyways, I would choose Freeman. Master Cheif, in my opinion, has a character that simply boils down to a generic military hero, a stereotypical form of character that we all have seen in many different characters in movies, games, and other forms of media.

  55. RoflcopterXpress January 4, 2010 at 8:23 pm -      #55

    Let’s face it. Master Chief isn’t as smart as Gordon. As Thepocolypse said, Freeman massacred an entire invading alien army, some beefed up alien worms and a Ninilahnth (spelling fail), with barely any help. Then he fights an army of combines, and MORE aliens, with a crowbar, a machinegun, and a pistol, all being kinda cruddy. Master Chief massacres a whole army of aliens, and some parasite, with an army of humans, an army of allied aliens, and sgt johnson. He used Assault Rifles, shotguns, magnums, crazy alien weapons, and has NO PHD. Master Chief had it easier than Gordon. Besides Gordon has the gravity gun. ;)

  56. BRAlNlAC January 13, 2010 at 10:44 pm -      #56

    @RoflcopterXpress actually i would have to say that Master Chief is smarter. While Gordon Freeman did get a Ph.D in theoretical physics from MIT and is obviously of very high intelligence, Master Chief is not only an extreme example of man kind’s physical capabilities, but also extremely intelligent and has access to far greater technology. At the age of 10 (or 12) the SPARTAN IIs were being taught trig and philosophy. Also when coupled with his MJOLNR Mark VI armor MC is able to harbor ship grade A.I. which communicates with him through a direct neural interface. Allowing nearly all prevalent combat information to instantly be at his access.

    I also did a a few calculations, assuming the zero point field manipulator can shoot a 80lb toilet at 75 feet per second the gravity gun is capable of exerting close to 10,000 joules of energy. Master Chief’s Sniper Rifle shoots 14.5x114mm rounds(same as the PTRS) exerting (with today’s tech) 32,000 joules.

    Anyone who says that Master Chief has it is easy against the covenant/flood is deceiving themselves, ODST provides a unique perspective on how difficult the enemies truly are, and how powerful Spartans truly are. I feel that in a duel master chief would devastate Gordon, unless Freeman had the dark energy grav gun. Even then if they started at some distance from each other freeman would have no chance.

  57. Me April 9, 2010 at 6:32 pm -      #57

    As an excessive player of both games on all levels of difficulty, Master Chief wins (though Gordon Freeman is my favorite of the two). The blue gravity gun has a downfall of range. Master Chief could just use his sniper rifle or battle rifle. Also if Freeman uses the blue gravity fun and pulls Chief towards him Chief is now two feet in front of Gordan’s defenseless face… Chief can flip a tank what do you think he will do to Freeman’s face?

    In addition, Chief and Gordan are equal (give or take a few decimal IQ points) in intellect.
    Isn’t Gordan more than just a MIT graduate? He’s some sort of Mercenary for the G-Man. Both have military training.
    The real advantage is strength and speed. Master Chief is much stronger and faster.
    – How are these characters comparable? Different people make them based in different time eras. Anyone can make up someone stronger than someone else’ character. So I say Chuck Norris wins.

  58. qwerty888 May 19, 2010 at 12:23 pm -      #58

    And what about the laser guided rpg? or the Pulse-rifle with dark matter orbs? it can disintergrate something the size of a hunter, it will disintergrate the cheif.

  59. Anders Ho May 19, 2010 at 12:25 pm -      #59

    Doesn’t Gordon Freeman have the pulse rifle with secondary Dark matter orbs? it can disintergrate a hunter, it will disintergrate the cheif.

  60. Patrick May 22, 2010 at 11:50 pm -      #60

    Gordon could use the Gluon Gun or Tau Cannon against master chief also.

  61. Adam M. June 1, 2010 at 5:46 pm -      #61

    I’ve seen this question being posed all over the place, and I must say, it’s a painful choice to make. As much as I love the bespectacled doctor, all evidence seems to point to Master Chief being the better of the two. I’d like to take a detailed look at their armor and ordinance to truly decide who is better.

    Master Chief in his prime wore the Mk. 6 MJOLNIR variant power armor. It’s got a full heads-up display, energy shields over a half-ton of reinforced alloy, and neural implants that allow for communication with an AI. The suit’s power seemed to be infinite- however this may be unclear, as the Mk. 5 sustained heavy damage and power failure by the end of Halo: Combat Evolved. Whether or not the Mk. 6 has a marginally longer power source is unknown.

    Gordon, in Half-Life2, receives his Mk. 5 HEV Protective system. Gordon’s model lacks the helmet- some of which were seen on the Lambda team members on Xen. The suit protects Gordon from radiation, hazardous waste materials, and other threatening environments. It also has a full HUD and user-health monitor system. The suit can be electrically powered to absorb ballistic damage and concussive force. However, it must be periodically recharged to maintain this function.

    The two armor suits are equally matched in many respects, but the MJOLNIR Power Armor has a considerably longer charge life for his shields- And has head protection. Point to Master Chief.

    Melee: Gordon’s trademark crowbar is a symbol of the rugged durability of human strength. It stands for ingenuity and multiple uses, as well as simplicity and reliability. But how does a steel lever stand up to an energy sword, or a gravity hammer? The truth is, Chief takes the cake on this one. Focused plasma could easily conquer the crowbar, as well as the concussive force of the Hammer. Iconic as it is, the crowbar is an improvised weapon. Point to Halo.

    Handguns: Gordon’s pistols in both games are underpowered but have high mag capacity and rapid fire. Pistols in the Halo Universe have undergone many changes. There are those with high power and range, with low capacity and rate of fire (Halo 1, 3, and Reach) and those that are weaker with faster rate of fire and larger mags. (Halo 2 and ODST, though Chief never uses the ODST variant). Gordon also uses a magnum revolver in all games. No points awarded, both series’ have too many sidearms to choose from.

    Submachine Guns: Halo 2 saw the debut of the M7 Caseless SMG. It first appeared as a bullet hose, inaccurate, and high mag capacity and rate of fire. In Halo 3, its range was cut even more to give way to more damage. Gordon wields an MP5 in Half-Life, which has medium range, decent damage and rate, and a large magazine. The MP7 from all subsequent games cuts the range, increases rate, and has slightly less power. However, it brings with it a redeeming alternate fire- an attached grenade launcher. Point to Half-Life.

    Assault Weapons: Gordon is at the disadvantage here. Master Chief employs more assault weapons that are comparable to the only one he has to offer. The Assault Rifle is another dynamic weapon in the Haloverse. Chief uses two different models throughout the series. Additionally, the Covenant Plasma Rifle is also considered an assault weapon that Master Chief uses. Gordon has a single assault weapon to speak of- the Overwatch Standard Issue Pulse Rifle or OSIPR. It has a low mag capacity, good range, and heavy damage. It also has a black-energy charged bolt which can be fired to disintegrate almost anything it touches. The Assault Rifle and the Plasma Rifle are both short range, medium damage, low capacity guns. (The PR actually has a battery charge, but automatic fire causes it to overheat rapidly- equivalent to the quick expenditure of a magazine.) I’m gonna have to call this one a tie, for the same reason as the handguns.

    Precision Assault: Here, Halo offers up the Battle Rifle and Covenant Carbine. Half-Life’s most comparable weapon would be the Tau Cannon, due to it’s similar range and power. Both Halo weapons have mid/long range with medium sized magazines and high damage with an acceptable rate of fire. The Tau cannon has long range, high power, and incredible accuracy. It also has an alternate fire which charges a high-power bolt that can destroy many enemies in one hit. It has a considerable kick, however, capable of launching Gordon short distances as it discharges. These weapons are evenly matched as far as performance, but Halo must win this one, as the Tau Cannon’s ammo is notoriously rare. (Depleted Uranium is not very abundant.) Point to Halo.

    Focused Beam Weapon: The Sentinel Beam and Spartan Laser against the Gluon Gun. The Gluon Gun also uses the same rare ammunition as the Tau Cannon, but the chance of finding it is equal to that of finding a Sentinel Beam or a Splaser. So, they tie in that department. The Sentinel Beam fires focued energy in a continuous beam, with low damage, and fast overheat. A fully charged weapon will be depleted very rapidly with automatic fire. While it decimates flood, it is ineffective against other foes. The Spartan Laser has approximately three seconds to charge, then fires a single ray of devastating energy. However, it too suffers from quick ammo depletion- it only has five shots. The charge time also hinders the user somewhat. The Gluon Gun on the other hand shoots a spiraling coil of blue energy that has something to do with subatomic particles called Gluons which pretty much hold matter together. Whether it messes with them or fires them along a focused beam is unknown. But it deals massive damage just by firing in short bursts. Ammo is drained relatively slow even if fired continuously, and holds enough to last long enough to rip any enemy into red gelatin. Point to Half-Life.

    Sniping/Precision Weapons: Master Chief carries a high-powered sniper rifle in every game, capable of dispatching any enemy with one or two shots. It has a 5x and 10x zoom and, therefore, unspeakable range. The magazine is limited to four shots, with a short delay between each one. It also has a longer reload time than most weapons. Gordon has no proper Sniper Rifle, but instead carries a crossbow with a scope on it. It equals the sniper in range, but falls short on damage. It also has a cumbersome reload time and limited clip. Along with this, each projectile has a rather slow velocity- twice the time to reach a distant target as any other ballistic firearm. Point to Halo.

    Missile Launchers: Both games have their respective “Big Tube That Makes Stuff Go Boom” weapons. Halo has the Rocket Launcher and Half-Life the Rocket Propelled Grenade, or RPG. They are equal in damage, but the RPG must be reloaded with another payload after each fire. The Rocket Launcher has a two-rocket disposable barrel which has a long reload time. Pretty much equal on fire rate then. The rockets are very ineffective at long range despite the x2 zoom. They have a slow velocity and are easy to spot at long distance. The RPG however has a much faster missile, which can be guided by a laser. The RPG is superior. Point to Half-Life.

    Shoot. It’s Halo: 3 to Half-Life: 3. So, it looks like arsenal alone isn’t enough to decide the victor.

  62. zane June 5, 2010 at 7:16 pm -      #62

    gordons the awesome unlikely hero, who beats stuff up with a crow bar, but master cheif is stronger faster and more experienced ( if gordon went through all three halo games it would be a lot tougher). my vote goes to mc

  63. Project Pandora June 8, 2010 at 6:35 pm -      #63

    Dark Energy Gordon has a pretty good chance of winning. The Dark Energy Zero Point Energy Field Manipulator can pick things up from a longer distance than the normal Zero Point Energy Field Manipulator and throw them farther. Virtually it will pick up anything. Also Gordon’s HEV Suit will become charged with dark energy and at full power can deflect a combine energy ball and a direct shot from the Dark Energy Gravity Gun Itself. All Gordon would have to do is shoot Master Chief with it and send him flying. Of course Gordon would have to take him by surprise to better his chances.

  64. ironman July 6, 2010 at 10:40 pm -      #64

    i likes both but i reckon MC will win just got better amour and stuff like dat + SL(spartanlaser) can pwn any enemy there done and dusted MC will win

  65. Sean August 12, 2010 at 1:28 pm -      #65

    over all here’s my analasis after reading every comment
    MASTER CHIEF: He was bred for combat battle hardened sence he was a younge boy and has a tactical awareness and prowess un matched by any being in (!!HIS!!) universe. His body armor alows him to fall from hights as high up as 13 story without being hurt, due to the fact that upon impact a gell layer within his armor would lock up sealing his armor allowing him to survive the impact grant it his armor would sustane great amounts of damage and would hardly be in working condition afterward. Plus he benafits from a sheild wich will deflect all damage until it goes down to to extreme energy depletion. He also benefits from the ability to activly pick up and utalize any weapon on the feild wether it be human or alian technology.
    GORDON FREEMAN: Gordon is a certified scientist with a nac for finding his way through any obstical now he doesnt have as effective of armor. His recources are way more limited than MC’s so people would automatically assume that he is more effective at combat. His main weapon of choice is a trusty and well known weapon that you shuold all know about. The !!!!!!CROWBAR!!!!!! Now He is smarter than master chief that is unparraleld, But he is far more wee.
    Analasys:In combat master chief Would obliterate Gordon with his own Crow bar 8(.
    But in a fight of wits Gordon woul have an even chance to win with master chief.
    Conclusion: MC is the supirior combatant and would most likely win if they were pitted against each other.

  66. Liozamu August 20, 2010 at 2:08 pm -      #66

    basically, they both have great achievements by their name, but MC has definitely done more and would most likely win with about as much of a challenge as it was for him to take down 2 hunters alone, overall they are both equally awesome but chief would win.

  67. aceofqueens September 9, 2010 at 2:08 am -      #67

    i don’t think i even have to explain when I say Gordon gets his ass beat, however I would be rooting for Gordon the whole time.

    Gordon actually has skill, cunning, and good survival instincts. He unraveled the combine despite having no military training, he’s a physicist for gods sake.

    Master Chief is overpowered and lucky that he has a suit more powerful than jesus and genetic modification.

    Gordon is way cooler and has, for who he is and the conditions, better achievements.

    Half life > Halo

  68. Silent hunter October 19, 2010 at 9:53 am -      #68

    oh yea one more thing, g-man the guy in the grey suit and always spies on you) has plans for gordon and he is indestructible (trust me, I have tried). So g-man will protect freeman, so master chief can kiss his head goodbye

  69. Silent hunter October 19, 2010 at 9:54 am -      #69

    oh yea one more thing, g-man the (guy in the grey suit and always spies on you) has plans for gordon and he is indestructible (trust me, I have tried). So g-man will protect freeman, so master chief can kiss his head goodbye

  70. SquishyPanda November 4, 2010 at 10:41 pm -      #70

    I have not played HL for a while, but I do think Gordon would win if he had the Dark Grav Gun. Although I’m not sure, because the reason may be due to game mechanics.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but when you grab an enemy with the Dark Grav Gun and then throw them, don’t they disintergrate? Using the same animation as when hit with the combine ball?

    However since the Dark Grav Gun is not standard load-out, I think that MC will win. Because Gordon doesn’t wear a helmet…one headshot and its game over for Freeman D:

    @Silent Hunter
    Thats counted as outside help

  71. JoeBob November 8, 2010 at 7:27 pm -      #71

    I’ve made this comparison before, and people often fall into bias loopholes. Okay, so maybe I do too, but I’m much more logical about it. I’m gonna admit straight out, HL brought me to the world of gaming when I was nine (poor household, or I would have been in way sooner), and so has a special place in my heart. Halo is one of my more favourite games also. Both I like more for the story than the gameplay, although I love them as games. Obviously any fight is going to depend as much on luck and circumstance as anything else, so it’s impossible to predict the outcome flawlessly, but this is a rough outline of the major strengths and weaknesses the two have.
    First, the issue of luck. Like I just said, this is important above all else. As has been noted by several people above, Freeman does have a lot of luck. As Cortana points out, MC was chosen above the other Spartans for his outstanding luck. As we’ve yet to define a unit of measurement for luck, or any means of measuring it, we’ll have to take it as given that the two are equals here (although I point out that MC is left at the end of Halo 3, and later at the end of Origins part 2, drifting through space in half a ship with his beloved AI pretty much at the end of her life, with hints of her dying in the later of those. But I digress).
    Next, we should probably discuss the armour. Okay, so I’ll admit it, MC has the advantage of recharging MJLONR (I’ve missed a couple of letters there, haven’t I?). So in theory, he can survive an infinite number of hits, given time to recover. But which is the stronger armour? Based on the fall damage from the first game in each series (as CE is the only halo game with fall damage that I’m aware of, this seemed like the most fair comparison), MC suffers a 30% loss here (approximately. It’s difficult to judge exactly in this instance). Admittedly, both suits differ from game to game, but this is only ever going to go in Freemans’ favour. MCs’ armour seems to get progressively worse throughout the game, although the recharge does get better. This said, that’s only the combat angle on the suits. Environmentally, MC is better off, of course, as his suit protects him from radiation, fall damage, electrical damage, etcetera (which is ironic, as Gordons’ suit is the one sold as a Hazard suit). Of course, Gordon has the advantage of a sprint ability, and arguably a long jump module, but I think MCs’ ability to jump several times his own height balances that out. Let’s not mention either of their flashlights, yeah? They both suck. For the minute, their suits seem fairly well balanced, if suited for different things. Eugh, the part I want to avoid talking about is the helmet thing. I hear this from both sides of the argument a lot. ‘Gordon has no helmet, he’s exposed to head shots!’ ‘MCs’ helmet is jointed at the neck and has a semi permeable front, he’s exposed to headshots!’ While Freeman is never portrayed wearing the helmet, we can deduce from the fact that the option of a helmet is clearly possible, as seen on corpses in Xen, and from the fact that Freeman has an optical zoom in his suit, some form of rebreather or air tank, and his head isn’t affected by the radiation in the Citadels’ reactor, he wears his helmet up part of the time. MCs’ helmet has a big electric shield protecting it. Both are protected from headshots, let’s not argue about it.
    Combat experience next? Okay, so MC has full on military training. Freeman only has basic weapons training, as far as we know. However, both seem perfectly capable of fighting through flocks of alien hordes. Clearly Freeman is the faster learner in combat, and at the end of the day, isn’t that the most important part of combat? To learn your opponents weaknesses before they learn yours? Besides, what more combat training does one need than destroying a few hundred aliens?
    Okay, my favourite part of this discussion is weapons, because this is the part I think really wins it for Freeman. Before I even start looking into a comparison of similar weapon types between the two, I’m gonna remind you that MC can carry two weapons (okay, dual wield aside), and a handful of grenades. As far as we know, there’s no limit to the number of weapons Freeman can carry (in my opinion this is one of the main features of the HEV suit. Whether you consider this some form of design, or believe this to be some kind of portal technology involvement, it’s up to you), we know he can carry, what, at least 20 weapons, based on the first game? This puts him at a 10-1 advantage straight off the hook with weaponry. Again, I’d like to point out the irony that MCs’ battle armour is less equipped for battle than Freemans’ Hazard suit. I think I’m the only person ever to notice this ever. But anyway, you want a blow for blow analysis of the weaponry, right? Melee – Freeman has the crowbar. It’s more iconic than serviceable, I’ll give you that, but it gets the job done. Don’t judge. By my count, he’s most likely had five different crowbars by the end of episode two, six, if you consider Uplink to be canon, but that’s probably not important. MC, on the other hand, generally uses the but of his gun. Not as good as the cutting power of a crowbar really, right? …Oh, the energy sword? The big hammer? Good point, I guess he does have the tactical advantage with those. Although they both have limited ammunition, which really defeats the point of a melee weapon, but hey, you only need one shot, right? In close quarters, MC wins, it seems, on weaponry. If he can get close enough, that is… Small Firearms – I like Freemans’ choice of weaponry here. Glock 17 and the good old magnum. The glock’s a serviceable weapon, waterproof, reasonably accurate, fast fire rate, fast reload. Nice. The magnum offers the power. A single shot to most enemies and you’re done. As opposed to MCs’ pistol (note, this is firearms only, not plasma weaponry. We’ll get round to that later). It’s, um, accurate, right? I guess it balances out quite well against the glock in the original HL. But it doesn’t look so good against the magnum, I’m afraid. Faster shooting, maybe, but it just doesn’t have the kind of power needed. Freeman takes this section, for diversity, if nothing else. Shotguns – Freeman gets two distinctly different shotguns through the course of the game so far (I’m discounting Annabelle, don’t worry). The shotgun from the first game is probably the better of the two, for its’ range. I swear, it’s more a semi auto rifle than a shotgun. It also has the slightly larger ammo capacity, which is nice. MCs’ shotgun, on the other hand, is useful at about, ooooh, three feet? Maybe less? It’s a glorified melee weapon. I’m not going to make an official judgment on power as I’ve not had the chance to properly compare them (I’m not so low as to use the shotgun much in halo), but from my experience, the shotguns in half life never take more than one shot to kill an enemy in range. I’ve seen the halo shotgun fail epically on a number of occasions. I’m giving this round to Freeman, based on range and diversity. Oh, and ammo capacity. Sub Machine Guns – Heh, okay, so I’m splitting this into two sections. First, the comparison of the SMG and the MP5 from HL against the assault rifle from halo. Do you really want me to bother? Let’s look at it like halo has two assault rifles, one with 32 shots, the other with 60 (I know technically they’re the same gun, but it makes easier comparison this way). The 60 shot compared to the MP5? Larger magazine, lower accuracy, lower range, n impact grenades. MP5 takes the title. 32 shot against the SMG now? Smaller magazine, equal range and accuracy (more or less), no impact grenades. Yup, SMG is the better weapon. Freeman is totally kicking ass here. As to the second part of this, we’re looking at the AR2 against the battle rifle. They’re both pretty accurate and have excellent range (I’ve been known to use both of them as a makeshift sniper rifle when need arises), The battle rifle does have a nice zoom and a slightly higher ammo capacity, but then the AR2 is just more powerful, and isn’t inhibited by the damned burst fire. It’s nice and all, but I have a manual ability to fire bursts, it involves simply not holding the trigger down. Plus, you know, the AR2 has its’ alternate fire. I think Freeman takes the crown here, well and truly. Snipers – Okay, straight out, this is the sniper rifle versus the crossbows. Freeman has the choice here of the tranq dart bow, which offers him faster shooting, a larger clip and a shorter reload than MC, but overall less power, or the crossbow, which offers him a smaller clip, but faster reload times, faster shooting, and arguably a more powerful shot. They all have excellent range and optics, but the sniper is an awful mid-close range weapon, whereas I’ve used both crossbow and tranq darts at close range, mid range and long range. I’ll confess, arcing and shot delay in the crossbow could be a hindrance, but It’s not a massive problem. Especially the arc, it’s so easy to work out where it’s going to hit anyway. Personally? I think this is Freemans’ round. But if you really wanna argue the point I’ll confess it could go either way. Grenades – Freeman can hold 5-10 grenades. They explode. Bang. MC can hold, what, 8-16 grenades is it? I forget. Lots. They have various different functions. Mostly, they explode. Some are sticky, some bounce. Freeman has explosive packs, and wall mine things (I know, they have a name. It’s almost five in the morning for me, give me a break). MC has some grenades that can heal him. And some that can disable his opponents shields (which I assume would do the same to the HEV suit). And grenades that explode in various other pretty ways. I don’t think I’ve missed out any important features, right? That round goes to MC, I must confess. Rockets – Heh, people have noticed already that Freeman has the advantage here, I see? Freeman has guided rockets, an invaluable asset. I know halo 2 has a targeting system on the rockets, but let’s face it, it’s rubbish. Great for taking out banshees, but easy to dodge for someone on the ground. Especially if they had a sprint function in their suit. Also, Freemans’ rockets are, as a general rule, more powerful. Oh, did I mention the bazooka and the RPG fire faster than MCs’ rocket launcher, and have faster reload times? That too. Okay, admittedly the brute shot has its’ own tactical position, but nothing makes up for the lack of targeting. This is totally Freemans’ realm. Anomalous – So both are well known for having some less than usual weaponry. I think we can safely say that we have a pretty interesting balance on both sides, with plasma rifles and the like playing out against Freemans’ Gauss canon and the like. It would take forever to go into the intricacies of both sides. Suffice to say, while MC has a better variety of weapons here, Freeman makes up for this by having weapons that can rip a man to shreds in a single shot. But Freeman has some special little weapons that I’d like to remind you all about that MC has nothing comparative to. Firstly, snarks. I love snarks, not only because they can do so much damage to an opponent, repeatedly attacking them, then exploding, doing yet more damage even in death, but mainly because of those annoying little moments when you can hear that last marine around somewhere, but didn’t see where he went. Throw down a snark, and instantly you have a location. You may have noticed I didn’t mention MCs’ radar yet? This is why. If Freeman is 15 yards away or more, or if he stands still, MC loses him. All Freeman has to do is throw down a snark, and he’s instantly guided to his opponent, who will already be taking damage when Freeman finds him thanks to snarks. Snarks are a massive tactical advantage. The other weapon I need to mention is the gravity gun. Which is amazing, and unique. And also has a dark energy variant, which would spell insta-kill for MC at a long range, without the need to aim. Also, Freeman has the external weaponry. Mines, hunter-chopper mines, turrets, hoppers, magnusons, all of which would make him a fearsome opponent. This is totally Freemans’ finest advantage, if you ask me. As you can see, each of Freemans’ weapons stands up well to MCs’, usually out performing them, or at least matching them. Now let me remind you of this one more time: Freeman can carry all of these. MC, can carry but a pair, along with a few grenades. Looking good for Freeman right now.
    Hmph. Now I have to move onto the bits I don’t want to discuss. Because people always want vehicle comparisons and ally/enemy comparisons. And I don’t consider these important in this issue, but I’ll give them anyway. So vehicles. Um, I guess it may come as no surprise to you that Freeman may have the tiniest of disadvantages here. True, his vehicles are indestructible, but they’re also not as serviceable, nor does he have the selection MC has. Basically, Freeman has three vehicles worth taking into consideration: the skipper, the buggy and the car. The skipper, when armed with the hunter-chopper gun, is fairly well comparable to the ghost. The vehicles seem equally maneuverable, and the skipper takes advantage from having a more powerful, better distance weapon, but this is outweighed by the impracticality of the recharge rate, in my opinion. Then again, part is totally opinionistic, the mud skipper has lots of positive points that let it hold true against the ghost, as I pointed out. The buggy compares okay to the warthog, I guess. The buggy of course can be used one man, which is a massive advantage, but the lack of maneuverability of its’ gauss cannon compared to the warthogs machinegun or big rockety thing is inhibiting. There again, the turbo is nice, and the charging feature on the gauss cannon does make it useful as both a machine gun and a high powered rifle type weapon, making it a fair match for both the warthogs possible weapons. I dunno, maybe it’s just an opinion thing again, but I’d prefer the warthog, personally. This leaves us comparing the car to the mongoose. So, neither are useful as a one man vehicle in a fight. Unless you’re gonna run each other over, of course. The car has turbo though, right? That’s something, I guess. I mean, it can go slightly faster, if it needs to, and has pretty awesome breaking power? Yeah, I don’t know who I’m trying to fool, neither of them are worth anything in this fight. And of course, MC still has his most powerful vehicles still unrivaled… The banshee, the scorpion tank, the wraith… I mean, sure, Freeman could just whip out his RPG and tear any of them to shreds, but as the vehicles go on their own, Freeman just doesn’t compare.
    You wanna know about their allies? Sure, I guess. So, um, Freemans’ allies are much more of a gorilla force. Security guards and scientists from the first game, revolutionaries and vortigaunts from the second. But don’t let their appearances deceive you, they are a well oiled fighting machine! Anyone that’s played HL should realise that, actually, security guards are pretty nifty against marines. Hell, I’ve seen a security guard running solo take out a small squad of four or five marines on his own. Admittedly, when they come up against snipers they come rather unstuck, but MC doesn’t use a lot of snipers. They could whip the asses of the regular marines MC uses. Then we have the scientists. Okay, so not much use in combat maybe, but they make okay medics. Well, that is, they can take the edge off the pain. Still, MC doesn’t have medics. Score one to Freeman, I guess. Also, Freeman has actual medics. So, I guess he has this whole healing thing covered from lots of angles? Then there’s the rebels. Maybe not as amazing as the security guards, but way up in numbers. This is what Freeman will be relying on in the main UNSC vs rebel battles, I have no doubt. Not really as a powerful force, but as the cannon fodder. I dunno, every extra pair of hands, right? I guess they’d be useful against elites and all. Especially armed with shotguns. I don’t recall, can they use secondary fire on their weapons? I don’t think so, but if they could, they would be totally awesome against elites. However! I have left the main power of the rebels ’til last! The one weapon that will completely tear through the ranks of the UNSC! The vorts are clearly unstoppable. Arguably, we should include antlions here too. There’s, um, lots of them. Having lots of something is always useful. But the vorts! With the range of a sniper, and an ability to do damage to so many near by targets at once, a small group of vorts could easily wipe out a core of hardened marines, or even a large patrol of elites, off the face of the planet. And marine snipers? No problem! Vorts have an excellent range. Of course, I can’t really offer you much to go up against the UNSC air support. Rebels.., with RPGs? Yeah, not really many of them, they probably wouldn’t cut it. Then again, so long as there’s more rebels, they can always just go pick up the RPGs from their fallen comrades, I guess. So there was a use for having lots of rebels after all, see? Next we’ll look at the protagonist allies. Because, you know, every army needs its’ superhero type generals to lead the battle. MC has, um, let’s see, I count Johnson, Arbiter… um, does Jacob Keyes count? He’s an okay fighter in the first game, I guess. I suppose there’s Cortana, but she’s a non-combatant. And doesn’t have a body (but the body she doesn’t have is pretty smoking, I’ll confess). On the opposite side, we have Alyx, whom I’ll pitch up against Keyes, and claim a clear win for Alyx, Calhoun, who I doubt would have any trouble putting Johnson down, considering the number of marines he kills without even thinking about it during the course of Blue Shift, and Dog, who gets to fight Arbiter. Okay, so Arbiter can go invisible for short periods of time, given. Dog is a giant robotic dog, who fights stalkers and dropships singlehandedly. My money is on Dog, I’m afraid. Okay, so MC could in theory call on a lot of Spartan IIs (and arguably Spartan IIIs), but I’d put those in with the elites for skill level. They can go suck my vortescence.
    Time for me to talk about enemies? So as I see it, each basically has four enemy groups. Covenant/Combie, Forerunner artifacts/marines and black ops, flood/head humpers, ambiant wild life/Xenians. I’m going to treat each in the equivalent pairings I’ve put them in, because that’s much easier than trying to do it as one massive group. Combine vs Covenant. On the small scale, the combine seem pretty powerful. Jackels, grunts and drones are all comparable to the various CPs and combine elite and the like. As the weaponry here is the same as the section above basically, we can assume the combine have the advantage with weaponry. Plus, I’ve never seen the combine turn tails and run when their leader dies. This makes the elites and brutes comparable to hunters. Now, let’s face it, hunters are scary to come up against. The first battle with them in episode two is, in my opinion, the hardest and most terrifying part of any of the games. Also one of the most fun, but that’s not important right now. Without seriously heavy weapons, they’re tough to take down. A brute with a brute shot may be a good match in combat, but fletchettes are nasty. And their charge is easily equal to an elite with an energy sword. In general, my money’s on the hunters. This leaves halos hunters to fight striders. Okay, so both have pretty powerful weapons. But hunters lack maneuverability. Striders would rip them apart, simple as that. Banshees? They can take on the might of the gunship, I think. That seems like a pretty fair fight to me, I’m of the opinion that, if they could get a long ranged fight, the gunships would win, while a banshee would take the crown in a close up fight, seeing as they would need to use their rockets, which are far too slow at long range. I’ll put the two types of dropships against each other, and say that’s a fairly fair fight, if you don’t mind. Finally I’m going to put ghosts and wraiths against, I forget what they’re called, the big tank like things. Personally, I think that’s a pretty fair fight. This doesn’t even begin to consider advisors. Advisors would mess shit up. Of course, if we take the larger scale into accounts, it’s quite a different picture. I mean, on the one hand, the covenant can glass an entire planet. On the other hand, the combine use teleportation a whole lot, and could really mess them up. I dunno, I leave that undecided, as we don’t know enough about the combine. Forerunners vs marines. So, basically, we’re talking about sentinels fighting marines, yeah? Not much more to it than that. I mean, a few black ops, sure, and the occasional oracle, but nothing we should really worry about to distinguish it from that. So, what does it take to kill a sentinel? A couple of shotgun shells? A round or two from an MP5? A single, well aimed, impact grenade? Yeah, um, I personally think marines have things well covered here. Oh, also? The marines have choppers and bombers, remember? And a nuke. And medics. And a portal gun. And snipers. And, well, you get the picture. Zombies! So the flood have the advantage of numbers, I’ll give you that. But headcrabs do have one or two tricks up their sleeves. I’ll confess, the flood have the advantage of speed in all cases. And the advantage of stronger attacks. And better range. And numbers. And better health (except the infective form and carrier form). And they can rise from the dead again. But headcrabs have something the flood don’t! Big momma! Yup, that’s right, big momma will make things alright! …Yeah, not even I’m buying that, the flood totally win this round. Xenians vs ambiant wild life. Okay, so considering how useless the random animals encountered in halo are, I’m not even gonna bother. Really, I should have compared the Xenians to the flood, and zombies to the animals, but it was way too irresistible to pitch zombie against zombie. I’m sure you can work out how that one would work for yourself, personally I think Xen would be well matched to the flood, but it’s open to interpretation.
    So there you have it! Hope you all enjoyed that, and that at least one person actually read all the way to the end! Constructive criticism is welcomed!
    tl:dr? Freeman rocks, he can carry more than two weapons, giving him a massive tactical advantage.

  72. Malaika Mizaati November 12, 2010 at 11:06 am -      #72

    OK here’s the thing. Dr. Freeman all the way. Master Chief is a cyborg or android. Go back to the very beginning of halo. The Chapter name was Cyborgs and A.I’s first. Though people tend to deny this fact. Dr. Freeman is smart enough to outdo a machine.

  73. Really? November 13, 2010 at 4:32 pm -      #73

    I doubt Freeman would win.
    1.) Freeman uses his super gravity gun to chuck the Master Chief 100 miles away into a cliff. Master Chief fell from space (on fire) in Halo 3, got up, stretched and went to kick an entire Covenant brigades ass immediately afterward. Point to the Chief.
    2.) Armour: Freeman’s Armour lacks a helmet yet is incredibly advanced. The chief’s Armour survived a fall from space, gravity hammers and years of galactic warfare. Point to the chief.
    3.) Gordon has a PhD and is very clever (apparently). Master Chief outsmarted invisible elites with energy swords and a thousand year old super intelligent gravemind. Tie
    4.) Freeman has insanely overpowered weapons with all manner of attachments. Master chief does not. Point to Freeman.
    5.) Gordon Freeman has an iconic crowbar. Master Chief has inhuman reflexes, years of brutal training and the ability to kill a 10 ft armored gorilla with an elbow to the face. Point to the Chief.
    6.) Freeman seemed to have saved Earth, and destroyed a small alien society. Master Chief won an intergalactic war, against two different species, whose numbers were in the millions and is called “The Demon” by his enemies. I think that one goes to the Chief.

    Side note: Freeman is incredibly witty, and might somehow say, find a way to hot wire a garbage compactor to try and kill the Chief. But the Chief can flip a tank and then smash it to pieces with his fists. He also killed 2 ODSTs (soldiers who would put the Navy SEALs to shame) with his bare hands when he was twelve. I admire that Freeman could adapt to his situation and ultimately become the victor using his wits, but the Chief was raised and modified to do what Freeman did without breaking a sweat.

  74. JoeBob November 15, 2010 at 6:06 pm -      #74

    About Master Chief’s so called uber armour…

    Also, the HEV suit can survive being hit by a train, and take an RPG to the chest. It can survive a LONG time directly exposed to fire, as well as other environmental hazards such as radioactive sludge.

  75. JoeBob November 17, 2010 at 9:55 pm -      #75

    According to the Halo Encyclopaedia the following weapons posses these listed effective ranges, with the effective ranges of their real life counterparts marked beneath (with the year they were introduced listed in brackets):
    1) UNSC MA5 Assault Rifle (2500): 300 meters
    M-16 (1963): 550 meters
    M4 carbine (1997): 500 meters
    FN F2000 (2001): 500 meters
    2) UNSC M41 Vulcan cannon (2500): 100 meters
    GAU-8 Avenger (1977): 1.2 kilometres
    M61 Vulcan (1959): 1.1 kilometres
    3) UNSC M301 40 mm grenade launcher (2500): 30 meters, in comparison, modern soldiers are expected to be able to lob grenades 35 meters.
    M203 under-barrel launcher (1969): 150 metres
    4) UNSC .30 calibre light machine gun (2500): 30 metres
    FN MAG (1958): 800 metres
    M60 LMG: 1.1 kilometres

  76. scumdog4life April 6, 2011 at 4:49 am -      #76

    master cheif aint a machine he is a super human the same as all teh spartans. and to be fair ill go with MC cos im sorry but the guy can flip tanks and weighs 2 tons AND is the last/strongest of all the superhuman soldiers. i do like GF but i just dont like the general character.

  77. jellybelly424 August 27, 2011 at 10:17 pm -      #77

    Gordon Freeman fights an alien race that took over earth in 7 hours (with a crowbar), completes a seemingly endless string of tasks just to pull a lever, and he has no info on what to or where hes going.  Master Chief on the other hand has a space bitch to tell him everything, doesnt outsmart anything just shoots in the face, and the blue grav gun doesnt just pick people up it immediatly kills the on contact.  personally i think the superior weaponry is with gordon because he has the ability to call an army of swarming antlions, a crossbow with red hot bolts, pulse rifle with energy balls that instantly kills any humanoid individual, a guidable rocket launcher, and a shotgun for good measure. MC has the entire UNSC to back him up + the elites (mostly the arbiter).  GF has the resistance, a couple of vortigaunts and Alyx Vance.  Plus i would like to see MC take a missle to the face and get back up.

  78. Carmine September 15, 2011 at 3:53 pm -      #78

    Well Gordon took on weak sauce enemies like this

    While Master Chief took on this


  79. SgCombine September 15, 2011 at 4:22 pm -      #79

    Thats gameplay mechanics, Gordan can only take those shitty grenades launched from SMG’s, thats not a real missile anyway. MC has more heavy weapons and better armor, and its no wonder the resistance sucks so much without Freeman, their main weapons are pistols and smg’s, and they use fucking Crossbows to snipe, SERIOUSLY, CROSSBOWS! WTF. I really dont see the crossbow doing any real damage to MC. The USP .45 is also pretty useless, so is the MP7, in fact, I think the only weapons he has that can kill Chief is the RPG, Energy Balls, and the Mines.(maybe I left out some new ones)
    MC definitely takes this.

  80. Ripa Ragnaramee October 6, 2011 at 10:58 pm -      #80

    How in the hell does anyone say that Gordon wins this one?!?!?!?! that is completely beyond me

    Master chief is a genetically, cybernetically and technologically enhanced, 7ft odd, super strong, super fast, super reflexive super soldier, with mjolnir armour and a huge range of weaponary and equipment is at his disposal.

    come on people, stop trying to Halo Stomp…..face it, the Chief wouuld end Gordon in about 3 quaters of a second

    done, move on

  81. Commander Cross October 16, 2011 at 1:50 pm -      #81

    Gordon is epic enough to hold his own against the Chief, even.

  82. SgCombine October 16, 2011 at 2:08 pm -      #82

    That’s debatable… not saying charging into a crowd of aliens with only a crowbar isn’t badass or anything, he just doesn’t have that many feats, plus he’s got Gman covering his back so that’s a -1.

  83. Commander Cross October 16, 2011 at 2:10 pm -      #83


    But how could this fight not be potentially epic, if everything else worth noting gets consideration? :sad:

  84. tugboat45 January 29, 2012 at 3:14 pm -      #84

    MC only can carry two weapons and if we are going by trademark weps then he has the battle rifle/ assault rifle, while gordons Tm’s are shotgun, crowbar, and the gravgun (blue or not). MC’s weps are cool and all but neither of them have anything on the gravgun. I do agree that most of GF’s weps would be mostly noneffective, but the gravity gun would at least beat the shit out of MC if MC won, but if it was supercharged GF doesn’t need anything else to win.

  85. tugboat45 January 29, 2012 at 3:21 pm -      #85

    and why is gman a bad thing?

  86. Whatthecell January 29, 2012 at 3:37 pm -      #86

    Half-Life is the infinitely better series. But yes, Master Chief wins more often than not due to ridiculous book feats.

  87. Whatthecell September 24, 2012 at 9:50 pm -      #87

    I’ll also point out that the Tau Cannon can destroy tanks in single shots, and is basically pinpoint-accurate. Gordon can also survive multiple RPGs and grenades right next to him and shrug it off.

  88. Whatthecell September 24, 2012 at 9:51 pm -      #88

    Also, Gordon Freeman does, in fact, have a helmet, and is seen carrying it on one of the game’s box-arts.

  89. Archangel 1 November 24, 2013 at 10:19 pm -      #89

    Ok i see how the ending would go…
    Gordon breathing hard, having wasted his entire arsenal,he was now left with a crowbar.
    the chief came in with an energy sword for the death blow….Gordon then quickly scurried into a ventilation duct. Chief started stabbing the ducts in effort to kill him.Gordon then burst out of a duct and jammed the crowbar between the cheif’s helmet.knowing the helmet was sealed onto his armor,gordon then pushed down..Hard and the helmet flew off with such not only snapped the cheif’s neck…it ripped his head off…Gordon then went back to the car(this is during ep 2 in a building on the way to white forest Alxy stayed in the car)leaving the chief’s head on pike and taking the helmet for a trophy. “where’d cha get that helmet?” alyx asked. Gordon winked at her and they both drove off

    and so thats how the ending would go.
    in the end gordon’s strength and crowbar was enough to stop the cheif.of course I’m thinking of a SMOD story where gordon has his Smod arsenal and kick

  90. Archangel 1 November 24, 2013 at 11:06 pm -      #90

    Ok don’t wanna create a story so here’s the skinny

    Gordon(smod) Master chief Hev suit applies Armor doesn’t
    morphine. have the Hev
    Kick is a powerhouse suit medical
    Gravitygun is more capabilities.
    enhanced. Only has can
    Arsenal is now more carry 2 guns at
    powerful then master chief’s a time.

    Gordon= analytic fighting style and powerhouse weapons can easily outmatch chief’s brute force style.

    Chief=More combat experiance but armor cannot apply morphine to increase speed or apply antidotes to deadly posion.As stated previously he can only carry 2 weapons at a time

  91. Commander Farsight November 24, 2013 at 11:15 pm -      #91

    “Ok don’t wanna create a story so here’s the skinny
    Gordon(smod) Master chief Hev suit applies Armor doesn’t
    morphine. have the Hev
    Kick is a powerhouse suit medical
    Gravitygun is more capabilities.
    enhanced. Only has can
    Arsenal is now more carry 2 guns at
    powerful then master chief’s a time.”

    What? That was completely illegible. Mind typing that again? More carefully?

    To the point, Chief puts a bullet in Freeman’s delicious, exposed cranium a half second info the match.

  92. Glutinous-Bicarbonate November 25, 2013 at 1:41 am -      #92

    ” apply morphine to increase speed”

    It’s one of those days.

  93. EA_Destroyer_Of_Franchises March 20, 2014 at 7:56 pm -      #93

    I misread this as MC vs Morgan Freeman, either way i think MC would lose.

  94. EA_Destroyer_Of_Franchises March 20, 2014 at 8:02 pm -      #94

    Just kidding, MC would whoop Gordon’s ass to kingdom come.

  95. OberHerb March 20, 2014 at 8:31 pm -      #95

    I honestly can’t tell which side Archangel is rooting for. O.o

  96. Lowk March 20, 2014 at 8:35 pm -      #96

    lol, that name.

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