What if…Dark Samus corrupted the Flood with Phazon?

Dark Samus corrupted the Flood with Phazon

Would a Dark Master Chief be born?
Would Gravemind mutate into a stronger form?
Would there be a new Metroid Prime?
Would Space Pirates join or fight the flood?
Would Samus and Master Chief be able to stop it?

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38 Comments on "What if…Dark Samus corrupted the Flood with Phazon?"

  1. JoshMcFace March 6, 2009 at 4:17 pm -      #1

    :O My idea!! Thank you :)
    Personally, I don’t know enough about the flood to judge this, but the galaxy/galaxies could be under a severe threat if new leviathans were made by space pirates and the flood were running round in hyper mode.

  2. Cpt Olimar March 6, 2009 at 4:52 pm -      #2

    If the change in durability of phazon infected creatures in Metroid Prime 3 is even remotely similar to the change that would occur with the corruption of the flood, then I think that they will overpower the humans. This would require a Metroid Prime 4 though, lol.

  3. Scenario March 6, 2009 at 10:14 pm -      #3

    If the Flood are corrupted, then everything they infect will be corrupted, too. Even the basic infection form will grow more powerful. Dark Samus orders the Flood to keep away from the Pirates, but the Pirates experiment with them anyway and manage to create new forms/pirates.

    Gravemind is corrupted through his minions, but keeps from succumbing to it. Dark Samus and Gravemind go into a (mental) battle for control, which Gravemind wins. He is unable to control DS, however, and she offers him more power instead of splattering him all over the walls. Gravemind accepts, and is mounted on another Leviathan ship capable of launching mini-seeds loaded with corrupt Flood.

    The Future Remains Uncertain…

  4. JoshMcFace March 7, 2009 at 3:15 pm -      #4

    Wow Scenario that’s amazing. I wonder if Gravemind could keep from succumbing to phazon corruption however, something that even creatures like Ridley couldn’t do. Gravemind could end up as a puppet to Dark Samus, or even vice versa. I like your idea though, I think that Gravemind could end up becoming ‘Dark MC’ unless Samus warned MC away from a direct confrontation in advance. But if a Dark MC was made, there would be little hope for the universe. It would end up as Samus vs Dark Samus and/vs Dark MC.
    And with such mass Phazon corruption around the universe, there would be powerful fighters and hunters being turned ‘dark’ constantly.

  5. Scenario March 7, 2009 at 7:54 pm -      #5

    Well, the Pirates and hunters seemed to retain a bit of their personalities when corrupted, so something similar might happen to Gravemind. He’d be…’influenced’, but not necessarily controlled. I think he’d still be in control of himself, like Samus at 99% corruption, but taking orders from DS.

    Scary thought: Dark Lt. Avery Johnson

  6. Thepocalypse March 7, 2009 at 8:46 pm -      #6

    “Scary thought: Dark Lt. Avery Johnson”
    His body would probably reject the Phazon just like it did the Flood infestation.
    It would be a bad@ss villain though.

  7. Skrunks March 8, 2009 at 1:00 am -      #7

    Dear Lord almighty. If the Flood was corrupted by Phazon?!?!?!?!?!?!

    It would literally be unstoppable. The only thing that would have a Chance would be Samus with all her Hypermode goodies. But even then……

    Naturally the Flood infect everything with a single mind. They function more like a single macro-organism with the Flood as it’s control. Their biggest weakness is thier inability to evolve technologically. They infect ships, but on thier own they’re limited to a single biosphere and the biomatter there.

    Phazon is an organic highly mutagenic goo. It is all symbiotically tied to the living planet Phaaze. Phazon reproduces naturally without any help and certain phazon based creatures like Leviathans can produce massive amounts of Phazon to corrupt not only organic matter but inorganic matter as well. Given enough time, Phazon will corrupt an entire world into a literral macro organism and launch more Leviathan’s to the stars.

    Think about it….

    Flood’s weakness: Lack of Mobility
    Phazon’s weakness: Symbiotic connection to Phaaze

    Flood’s Strength: Hyper-evolving bioforms, consuming biomatter, advanced strategic movement from a highly advanced sentinence
    Phazon’s Strength: Ability to reproduce in any environment, severe mutagenic properties, uncontainable

    Phazon + Flood = Unstoppable. Leviathan’s containing millions of Flood Spores. Living planets with trillions of auto-morphing flood. Good grief…… ultimatly, the only way to stop it would be to destroy Phaaze, since all the Phazon would instantly ‘die’ and take the Flood with it.

    The universe would be screwed.

  8. JoshMcFace March 8, 2009 at 9:54 am -      #8

    I wonder if the chief could somehow, very unrealistically be given a PED suit…then there would be a small chance.
    The Halos could possibly be used against Phaze (if it could be found), but there would still be millions of flood leviathans to deal with, a widely infected population, flood infected aurora units, flood infected Mother Brain, awesomely powerful flood infected phazon metroids, and Gravemind merged with Dark Samus, capable of moving from planet to planet to FEED.

    Someone make this in to a game.

  9. EnigmaJ March 8, 2009 at 1:23 pm -      #9


    The Covenant have enough problems with the flood already. Combing the flood with phazon would be overkill in either respective universes

  10. Who? March 8, 2009 at 7:57 pm -      #10

    Wow Scenario, that was just… Just… I don’t have words for how glorious that prologue was. It brought a tear to my eye. Kudos my friend. Kudos

  11. Spartan G44 March 9, 2009 at 8:29 pm -      #11

    Okay I am alittle confussed w/ the scenario but I think Chief, Samus, Arbiter, Elites, would team up. No I don’t think the Space Pirates would even join the fight They would be like the Covenate with the flood, Holy crap a flood infected Ridley?!?!?!?!

  12. Phazonaddict March 24, 2009 at 3:35 pm -      #12

    Wow, interesting scenario.

    The flood and Phazon are stupidly powerful by themselves, but if they both combined it would be the end of everything :V

    Sure, chances are Phazon would override the flood’s ‘programming’ but they’re still flood, they’d just be enhanced beyond belief.

    Imagine flood infection and combat forms able to go into hypermode (or even a hypermode Gravemind), and start firing blasts of Phazon (possibly filled with infection spores?) matter.

    Then there would be flood-infected leviathans, not sure how that would turn out. Chances are it’d create an entirely new breed of being, more closely meshed than before. I’m not sure what would be in control, in that case. They could easily be one macro-organism, instead of 2.

    Unless Samus, Master Chief, and all uninfected forces in the universe teamed up to stop it, the universe would likely be consumed within a (relatively) short time.

  13. sangheli_special_ops_elite April 10, 2009 at 7:08 pm -      #13

    between the galactic federation, U.N.S.C. ,and arbiter and his elites they could hold of the phazon flood from several planets if they convince the other graveminds(yes there is more than one gravemind) that the phazon flood are a threat to all “pure” flood thus starting the first ever FLOOD CIVIL WAR which the again i say “pure” flood might win because they are literally endless as suppose the phazon flood that number in the millions but all the flood in the universe number in the zillions maybe more

  14. OriginalA April 23, 2009 at 1:31 pm -      #14

    Would a Dark Master Chief be born? No, Dark Samus was born from the Metroid Prime entity mixing with Samus’s Phazon Suit and DNA. John’s suit operates completely differantly so the effects cannot be repeated by recreating the same cause.

    Would Gravemind mutate into a stronger form? Phazon corrupted Gravemind… scary thought.

    Would there be a new Metroid Prime? Game? Sure if Nintendo and Microsoft/Bungie teamed up and did this crossover. If the question was about the MP Entity, maybe. There might have been a second MP on Phaaze because you can find an exoskeleton of one, but there isn’t any fight with another MP. So there is a chance there is another MP moving around somewhere (if all Phazon things didn’t explode that is).

    Would Space Pirates join or fight the flood? Depends on the time this occures. If this is during MP3:C then the Space Pirates are corrupted by Phazon and would follow Dark Samus’s orders and probably join the Flood as they too are now Phazon corrupted. If this is at another time then the Space Pirates would just capture Phazon-Flood, study them, and use them as bioweapons. I don’t think the Space Pirates would every directly attack the Flood with the intention of wiping them out, even if the Flood nearly destroyes the galaxy(ies). At that point though I could see the Space Pirates attacking the Flood to wipe most of them out and keep a few select samples on the side.

    Would Samus and Master Chief be able to stop it? I think it would depend on how far the infection gets before they start to really get busy on stopping the Phazon and Flood team. If Gravemind gets a foothold that cannot be easily assulted then it is quite possible that the universe is doomed.

  15. guns_talk_louder April 24, 2009 at 11:19 pm -      #15

    At that point though I could see the Space Pirates attacking the Flood to wipe most of them out and keep a few select samples on the side.

    that would’nt be easy at all the flood have a home world that no one knows where it is the only clue is flood refer to it as the grave world and they are the mind of that grave hence the name gravemind plus the flood if attack in enough force will overwhelm anyone no matter how strong pirates are in different shapes and siezes they won’t kill zillions of flood if even one space pirate died the flood could posses that body and everything the pirate knew their tactics, plans, goal, etc. gravemind would know and flood are expert tactisions since they’ve eaten alot of tacticians the space pirates will have to fight while gravemind is in their head preaching about the advantages of being a flood or bragging about how it devowered fleets twice their size.if only one gravemind is present so yea pirates don’t want to fight flood but definatley want to ally with them since flood can be reasoned with prime example the halo 3 level THE COVENANT were the flood help instead of eat you

  16. JoshMcFace April 25, 2009 at 5:29 am -      #16

    The Space Pirates exist like an insect colony, following the strongest master without question. I don’t think that Gravemind’s mental influence would be enough to overcome that of Mother Brain, Ridley, Dark Samus or the High Command, especially since I believe Mother Brain and Dark Samus also have mental connections to their minions and would most likely be working to USE the flood.
    If Pirates were able to get information on this Flood home world, then it wouldn’t be difficult to corrupt it, as their leviathans are able to produce and travel through worm holes.

  17. guns_talk_louder April 27, 2009 at 7:42 pm -      #17

    I don’t think that Gravemind’s mental influence would be enough to overcome that of Mother Brain, Ridley, Dark Samus or the High Command, especially since I believe Mother Brain and Dark Samus also have mental connections to their minions and would most likely be working to USE the flood.

    there is actually more than one gravemind when flood reach a certain mass all the information of the combat forms are piled into one large flood creating a gravemind so one graveminds mental influence might not be enough but dozens of graveminds will make bend everyone to its will except all those people you listed plus flood don’t just stay the same they evolve not just mentally but phiysically they can already hack computers and work enemy ships but after they get enough food (body fluids) they get bigger flood hunter forms are a prime example, and that’s just a stage flood never stop changing they just get mostly killed before they evolve I’m not saying they’ll win but space pirates have a serious problem on their hands if they ever decide to raid a flood ship

    btw im not sure a metriod could do much to combat form every time they latch on flood there would be an intense fight for control over the host and if the metriod won the flood would scuttle of for another body and in the of chance they take over a ship they’ll spend months killing spores and disinfecting all that……….stuff on the walls play the level cortana or floodgate on halo and tell me that space pirates will even be able to use those ships for nothing more than a trash can unless they don’t mind popping thousands of spores with dozens of flood, debugging the controls literally they might as well blow it up from how recked the ship will be after they disinfect it

  18. Scenario May 3, 2009 at 8:24 pm -      #18

    Flood+X-Parasite+Phazon+Metroids= ???
    “…I am [name withheld] of the Biologic Space Laboratory 2.0…We discovered

    wreckage of … lab…SR-388…intact…
    …miles underground…dormant state… pressure induced…
    …inert phazon…exposed to metr- …….. energy and living flesh

    new species…spore based…

    …final clone… hatchling…-essful…absorbed…infected…corrupted
    *transmission lost*

  19. Who? May 3, 2009 at 8:37 pm -      #19

    Awsome Scenario…

  20. sangheli_special_ops_elite May 4, 2009 at 8:53 pm -      #20

    but seriously this scenerio several holes in it if flood got infected by phazon a pychic and physical war between flood and pirates would errupt and since space pirates don’t have any advatages to use on flood my last comment explains what would happen if a flood ship was raided the pirates don’t know and can’t find the flood homeworld only graveminds know and they are powerful psychics who won’t let such information spill plus if a pirate was infected it would be a hyper mode combat form alligned with the graveminds since they’re combined influence will turn anyone to thier will however the pirates have better fire power which wouldn’t really work too well against the flood shape shifters who can take alot of punishment and invisibility wouldn’t work since flood are blind anyway the only way pirates could win is if they outnumbered the flood in naval and ground battles cough..fat chance…cough however the flood would have problems if one gravemind turned then the flood would actually have to defend their homeworld which would suck so bad for them they’re made for assulting and devouring not dug in trenches and defences so if even one gravemind falls to pirates which is unlikely the flood are doomed

  21. Scenario May 4, 2009 at 10:14 pm -      #21

    For a serious (and relevant) prediction:
    Phazon enhanced Flood would be much more powerful than normal Flood, so they’d likely win a civil war, especially with Pirate help. They’d likely gain a ranged attack that could corrupt and infect. And with Phazon’s tendency to cause mutations, it’ll shift the Flood’s evolution into overdrive.
    A Flood filled Leviathan could warp to any planet, and the Pirates could mount defenses on it (firing phazon covered spores, of course).

    The Galactic Federation uses powered armor, so spores wouldn’t be a problem. They’d have to be infected manually. Luckily, that would require the Flood to deplete their shielding, thus limiting their effectiveness. The GF’s PEDs would protect them for a while, but they’d be overwhelmed eventually.

    If MC got a PED, he could charge his shields with non-weapon phazon like Samus, but he would have limited ammo because his body can’t produce phazon. But I doubt he could get a PED, so he’ll most likely be corrupted. As he doesn’t use energy weapons normally, they won’t be enhanced.

    Ultimately, however, I think Samus can prevail. The Flood can’t infect her and her weapons can wipe out everything, down to the cellular level. She’s good at clearing planets of life. And if all else fails, she’ll blow up Phaaze again.

  22. sangheli_special_ops_elite May 14, 2009 at 7:14 pm -      #22

    Samus is tough But even if she did destroy gravemind he is a psychic and physical creature. Remember at the end of cortana when blew up the ship gravemind was in he was still alive……….sorta he sent flood in dispersal pods down on halo so he could rebuild himself with the body’s he sent and he was still talking in your head after you killed him.

    If gravemind does ally with the pirates which I doubt they would have a full fleet guarding Phaaze If they learned how phaaze being destroyed would affect them. I have no doubt samus can destroy anything question is how many flood can she destroy at a time. Samus can only destoy flood so fast. Unlike most of the enemies samus fights flood don’t come in groops they just all out swarm you. The spike shooters weaken you and make you take cover while combat forms and hunter forms finish you off with powerful melee attacks that could dent a tank. Samus could loose a full bar of health with one swing from a hunter form. She would have to actually get help to beat the flood if they were enhanced by phazon.

    If samus, chief, arbiter, and a naval fleet composed of elites, UNSC, and galactic federation broke through the flood and pirate fleets they would have a chance but even then that’s rolling the dice since flood are very strong when there normal.

  23. hitman8 July 3, 2009 at 3:26 pm -      #23

    what if samus , master chief , the arbitur , the covenant and the unsc crossed technologies. i mean if there is this big universes cross over there would be some cool combinations of things . like a cross between a spartan mark 6 armor samuses armor elite armor and brute armor. it would be kick ass . not to mention the species crossovers and what if master chief and samus had a kid. he would be the ultimate badass. and what most of the universe(S) would do (i think ) would be to hide in the shield worlds activate the halos and wait a while before comeing out to see what was left. imagine master chief and samus’s kid with super armor on. kick ass

  24. the_man_with The_Answers August 12, 2009 at 11:48 pm -      #24

    The Flood are incredibly dangerous to any life form on their own. Making them stronger by any means will doom anything that encounters them. You could put those newly changed forms into any universe, and it would be destroyed.

  25. East Dragon August 20, 2009 at 6:24 pm -      #25

    “what if samus , master chief , the arbitur , the covenant and the unsc crossed technologies.”

    dont forget the GFeds: they have ped’s.
    (master chief and the arbiter would use the tech of unsc and covenant btw, so there rly is no reason to mention them.)

    somehow fuse the wraith and the tank, and then give it a ped system.

    but can u imagine a scarab that can go hypermode?!?

  26. hitman8 August 22, 2009 at 2:38 pm -      #26

    that would be epic. and how about my master chief samus kid threory

  27. Scenario August 23, 2009 at 3:40 am -      #27

    I believe Master Chief was mentioned to be sterile, and Samus might be, too. She’s got 3+ DNA signatures, not counting the DNA absorbed from X-Parasites. If they managed to have a kid, he’d be a part bird, part energy draining monster, and part human. No suit would fit, but the child’s skin would be armor enough. It could fly with wings or levitation, drain energy, and be really freaking fast.

  28. East Dragon August 24, 2009 at 7:10 am -      #28

    with what scenario said about samus, i dont think a mc+samus baby is safe………

  29. orber August 26, 2009 at 5:29 am -      #29

    old topic is old proberly but still.

    am I the only 1 who thinks this whont work out?
    why would darksamus and gravemind work together?especialy darksamus is a loner who whant dominance alone.

    what i see happening is as suggested before a mindstruggle between darksamus and gravemind over the flood.darksamus will be trying to give the corrupted flood orders and to do her will while gravemind is doing everything to free the flood from darksamus.this will result in the corrupted flood being locked in the mindstruggle which will leave them unorgenized and proberly wild and uncontrolled thus leaving them open for a attack.

    unless some1 gives me a good reason why darksamus and gravemind will work together i believe my theorie to be correct.

  30. East Dragon August 26, 2009 at 6:39 pm -      #30

    you have a good point there, orber.

    well here’s one scenario that i can think of:

    dark samus discovers one flood group and observes their ability to infect.
    she becomes spotted by them and they attack, which she wards off easily.
    as the last one comes to assault her, she corrupts it, and then it lays there, changing into a “phaze flood,” as i will call it.
    further observing her new creation, ds (using my imagination here) sees that this phaze flood can now corrupt AND infect.
    astonished, she goes to find the source of the flood and finds a gravemind.
    of course, as soon as it felt this new energy coursing through one or its flood drones, gravemind learned of the potency of corruption and its abilities.
    mentally, gravemind and ds should be equal, in my perspective, and, when both see that they are, after the mental confrontation, of course, ds and gravemind come to a conclusion that they shall merge and become one being, one mind. Agony. (corruption and infection both cause it. get it?)
    this new being then travels to phaaze, where there, Agony may send phaze flood leviathans to the planets it knows other graveminds exist, to create other agony beings and more phaze flood.

    now one more thing (mostly directed at admin:)
    what if dark samus discovered mother brain?

  31. East Dragon August 26, 2009 at 6:47 pm -      #31

    hm…i may like this wavatar…

  32. Scenario August 27, 2009 at 12:50 am -      #32

    I think Gravemind will end up working for Dark Samus if only because of his ability to sense any flood form. One of them gets corrupted, and the phazon has the opportunity to go through this link and corrupt the Gravemind. It’s done similar in the past. Of course, then every single flood connected to him immediately gets corrupted, too.

  33. orber August 27, 2009 at 8:52 am -      #33

    scenario is right proberly.anything that has a mental link with something that gets corrupted will get corrupted aswell.i dont think gravemind and darksamus are equals everything that tried to mentally fight darksamus falls into madness right away.darksamus has some forf of intelect yes but i think its mind is made of something completely different something that really is absurdly powerfull.

  34. East Dragon September 1, 2009 at 8:55 pm -      #34

    so…would a forced merge be acceptable?

  35. KrazyCrismore October 7, 2009 at 10:23 pm -      #35

    Hasn’t Mother Brain been destroyed before Dark Samus enters the Metroidverse. If not, then the hyperbeam mixed with the corruption and devastation of phazon would be unstoppable. However, I do not think that even Mother Brain could stand up to the corruption of DS.

  36. Zervziel December 4, 2009 at 2:44 am -      #36

    As pointed out by a few people here, the Flood combining with Phazon is a truly scary thought especially considering that once the Phazon Flood gain enough biomass, there’s going to be a Phazon Gravemind. The last thing the Galaxy needs is Phazon and Flood to be controlled by a hyper-intelligent malevolent and nigh indestructible being whose sole goal is to consume everything.

  37. Envoy December 5, 2009 at 8:03 pm -      #37

    I think grave mind would end up better then AU313, in that he would be working for DS but keeping his personality, that and theentire flood would try to spread phazon instead of themselves as their No.1 priority.

  38. LadyRamkin January 18, 2015 at 12:20 pm -      #38

    Cant the Gravemind mentally connect with regular people? Isn’t that why you had the stupid screen bluryness during Halo 3? If that’s the case couldn’t a corrupted Gravemind link to every other non Flood mind and subsequently corrupt them?

    Pointless bump of dead thread.

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