Halo Wars Vs StarCraft

Halo Wars Vs StarCraft

So, Halo Wars had a midnight release of which I attended at my local GameStop. Unlike the release for Halo 3 where there were about 300 people, last night only had about 20 people tops, and that included the 3 store employees.

As I walked in the store, it was mostly what I expected to see – one group of guys hanging out by the Rock Band display playing Weezer, and another group standing near the cash register – keep in mind it was a midnight release and we still had about 10 minutes to go.

When one of the clerks got my attention, he asked if I had my receipt so that he could verify it. I strolled up to his section of the counter and gave it to him. Like they always try to do at Gamestop he was trying to sell me the guide that goes with the game. “It’s 30% off the $20 price! Do you want it?” with a Joker like grin plastered across his face. I shook my head and told him that the only reason I was buying the Limited Edition version of the game was so that I could get the 3 maps for Halo.

He looked at me with shock as he slowly placed the guide down and simply said “Ok, then…” That’s when I knew that he was a RPG/PC gamer, and not a FPS/console gamer, so I shot another barb – “I played the demo and it’s just like playing StarCraft.”

By the look on his face you’d think I just punched his mother.

“No way” he started, “StarCraft allows for more troops and storage depots with custom…” I cut him off with a “Whatever”, can I make a payment on Halo: ODST?”

Anyways, sorry for the story, I thought it was an interesting look at the passion all us gamers have, but to also take it with a grain of salt.

I hope Gamestop clerk reads this – StarCraft for the win.

What say you?

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59 Comments on "Halo Wars Vs StarCraft"

  1. Rob (Expertimp) March 3, 2009 at 10:31 am -      #1

    I haven’t played halo wars much but I played starcraft and saw a lot of videos of the new Starcraft 2. Just by seeing the videos of the new Starcraft 2 coming out. I can tell you that it is going to be a way better game then Halowars. But Halowars is a great RTS for console and probably the best of its kind in that style of game play. But Starcraft 2 will be better then any RTS game even dawn of war 2.

    winner: StarCraft

  2. hotshot March 3, 2009 at 12:36 pm -      #2

    I have halo wars and like they said,the controls are amazing and it’s the best rts on a console,i have never played star craft so i can’t whi is the winner but the cutscenes of halo wars are the best that i ever had seen in a game

    halo wars is a rts for rts beginners or people that never played a rts and starcraft for hardcore,i’m not a hardcore rts player

  3. Thepocalypse March 3, 2009 at 6:08 pm -      #3

    I’ve only played a bit of Starcraft, so I brought in a friend of mine, who’s a massive Starcraft fan, and sat him down with the Halo Wars demo. This is a guy who maintains that the Zerg are the coolest fictional race ever created and scoffs at all games other than RTS. He played for about twenty minutes, then made a strange noise. I said “Why’d you do that?” He simply responded, “My reality has been shattered. This. Is. EPIC!

  4. L-W March 3, 2009 at 11:29 pm -      #4

    Halo Wars? Average at best.

    As an RTS addict (There are never enough of them in the world, to be frank), I was more than delighted to receive my cheaper, pre-ordered copy of Halo Wars in the mail and spend a good two hours or so before University started. Unfortunately that’s how long it took to finish the entire game, and leave me bemused as I started my Car and drove off to the city.

    Halo Wars offers high quality cinematic presentation (Better than the FPS titles) and a simple control scheme that makes the game easy to pick up and play without wasting time utilizing a difficult and unnecessary learning curve. But the limited amount of units, extremely short campaign, and dearth of multiplayer modes make it ultimately feel stripped and almost impotent.

    Throughout the entire Campaign it felt as though something was missing, as if the game was only half finished or under-utilized, nothing could dissuade the voice in the back of my head that kept saying “Is this it? Is this the best they could do?”. Ultimately, after returning home to complete a few Skirmish maps I came to a realization, Halo Wars is an RTS lite, it’s a console strategy game designed for kids and teenagers; and whilst only barely twenty myself, the game is as shallow as a puddle.

    I may play it again just for the gorgeous cinematics alone, but the game is ultimately unfinished and threadbare. Recommended if you’re looking for an easily beaten Warcraft clone (The Granddaddy of the genre) that takes the “Strategy” out of Real time Strategy and slaps a Halo sticker on it.

    My rating: 6/10

    Unfortunately this game is going on the shelf with the other dust gatherers (Glances across at Dead Rising, now coated in a thick and impenetrable layer of debris), likewise my thirst for a decent RTS will have to wait until “Empire: Total War” hits the shelves tomorrow and shows us the realm meaning of strategy.

    I cannot wait.

  5. Cpt Olimar March 4, 2009 at 1:19 am -      #5

    What’s your fav RTS L-W, as a wc3 Frozen Throne player I am quite obviously biased towards it, but knowing blizzard, Starcraft 2 SHOULD be the best (among the blizzard RTS games) once it finally comes out.

    Considering the idea of Halo wasn’t exactly a revolutionary step forward, L-W’s assessment of Halo Wars does not really surprise me.

  6. L-W March 4, 2009 at 2:06 am -      #6

    My favourite RTS games ever made are:

    1) Dune II: The first real RTS.
    2) Warcraft III/Frozen Throne: Excellent game, involving storyline, brilliant unit balancing and the the most valuable expansion pack in history.
    3) WarHammer 40000: The closest thing to the 40K universe since…Ever.
    4) Rise of Nations: One of the best territory/economic models I’ve ever seen in a game. Very experimental, very original.
    5) Homeworld: Undoubtedly the best space based RTS ever made.
    6) Starcraft: Responsible for my entire childhood.
    7) Empire Earth: Real time Epoch system. Enough said.
    8) Age of Empires: Where do I start? What got me addicted to gaming was Age of Empires and its sequels. Strategy games will always have a special place in my cold lifeless heart.
    9) Command & Conquer Red Alert: One part action game, one part strategy game, and one part B-Movie.

    Finally.

    10) Rome Total War: The most engaging, satisfying and strategically stimulating games that I’ve ever played. Total War is the God of RTS games.

  7. Matapiojo March 4, 2009 at 2:53 pm -      #7

    Tho I love RTS games, I can’t say that I have too many under my belt. I have only played:

    -Warcraft 1 – 3 and all pertinent expansions
    -Starcraft (no-brainer)
    -Dawn of War (Winter Assault and Dark Crusade) This one is my favorite by far
    -Lords of Everquest (terrible)
    -Company of Heroes and xpac (phenomenal)

    I doubt I will explore Halo Wars any time soon as I have too many games on-deck already (DoW: Soulstorm and DoWII included). By the time I try these games out, Starcraft II will be released and that takes SUPREME prescedence in my book to Halo Wars.

  8. EnigmaJ March 4, 2009 at 3:49 pm -      #8

    Age of Empires 3 is badass

    I can’t wait to get the Asian Dynasties Expansion pack =D

    RTS games rulez!!!

  9. marche March 4, 2009 at 4:12 pm -      #9

    starcraft,if not for the campaign,for the multiplayer.

    “Tho I love RTS games, I can’t say that I have too many under my belt.”
    have you played age of empires?
    that,starcraft,and warcraft were my childhood games.

  10. Baron Somebody March 4, 2009 at 4:30 pm -      #10

    All of you should try out Heroes of Might and Magic 3, best strategy game I have ever played…I went around killing pixies with my army of undead (which had like 5 million skeleton warriors in it so 1 hit KO…or my 20 thousand dread knights that occasionally do double damage…wish I still had that game)

  11. The One Sin March 4, 2009 at 4:49 pm -      #11

    Halo wars was somewhat over hyped but I love he game. I’m thinking that maybe they will make another series out of it chronicling different battles and maybe even covenant or forerunner history. I’ll be buying mine soon. I can see where you guys re coming from about it being shallow compared to other RTS games. But then again considering that the units featured in the game are pretty much all there is in halo there was really no other way it could have happened. Just a thought.

    BTW, I found the quickest way to win in skirmish
    .Play as UNSC
    .Build four supply pads and upgrade them
    .Two reactors anda field armory
    .Buy mac rounds
    .Move a warthog behind the enemy base and pray they don’t have turrets yet.
    The warthog will give you the sight range to destroy the enemy base in one move.

    Do this as quickly as you can and you will catch the other player off guard and beat them swiftly and easily.

  12. admin March 4, 2009 at 4:58 pm -      #12

    @The One Sin – Thanks for the technique – I’ll try it out tonight…

  13. lololol March 5, 2009 at 1:52 am -      #13

    history is on starcraft’s side, i mean its already 10 years and people are stilly playing it like hell, I would like 2 see Halo war stand up to that, I mean if it was made ten years ago it might have all the flaws people are complaining starcraft does

  14. Thepocalypse March 5, 2009 at 6:15 am -      #14

    I love the bonuses in Halo Wars, I can go online with my decal warthogs and honor guard wraiths to pwn n00bs in style! You also cannot beat the packaged cards, badge, maps, and graphic novel (waaaay better than the MK VS DC comic).

  15. Matapiojo March 5, 2009 at 9:18 am -      #15

    “I really hope Starcraft 2 could give us more cutting edge gameplay & graphics as well as a more profounding campaign….”

    Well the campaign is going to be so massive that they are splitting the core game three-ways (one for each race). Note that those are NOT expansions, they ARE a composite of the core campaign.

    As for cutting edge gameplay, just go to their site. You will see all sorts of goodies there.

    Here is a quick link for all of you that are ignorant to the upcomming greatness of Star Craft II:
    www.starcraft2.com/

    @marche – “have you played age of empires?”

    Sadly, I have not, but that franchise is on my on-deck list I mentioned to be above Halo Wars.

    Top RTS games/franchises for me to check out in loose order before Halo Wars are:

    Dawn of War: Soulstorm
    Dawn of War II
    Supreme Commander
    Age of Empires (all)
    Star Wars: Empire at War
    Command & Conquer (all)
    Total War (all)

    Like I said above, by the time I get through all of these, Star Craft II would be out along with its expanssion(s). When I invest in a game, I am into it for life. I can’t just pick up a volume and keep on trucking. I have to play from the first release up to its latest sequel.

    These takes SO much more precedence than Halo Wars. Specially because I don’t own a 360. I am not really interested in trying out an RTS on a console before I explore all the franchises that have been calling to me for some time.

    In any case, I think that I am jumping on the Age of Empires bandwagon as soon as I finish Soulstorm.

    …..yet, Star Wars or Supreme Commander might be easier and faster to check off the list…

    SEE MY PLIGHT!!!!???

  16. Wraith March 5, 2009 at 5:11 pm -      #16

    tell you the truth, I see a lot of similarities between SC and Halo wars. Terrans = Marines. Zerg = Flood. Covenant (with the Arbiter’s race) = Protoss.

    As I’ve only played Star Craft, thats where I cast my vote.

  17. L-W March 5, 2009 at 7:37 pm -      #17

    Don’t worry about Halo Wars, RTS on the console has always been…Lackluster, to say the least.

  18. marche March 5, 2009 at 9:16 pm -      #18

    “tell you the truth, I see a lot of similarities between SC and Halo wars.”
    a sci-fi formula when invovlving 2 races.a third(and often parasitic) race comes into play.
    usualy invovling Humans(ie terran/UNSC) advanced race(predator/protoss) and beastly/parasites(alien/zerg/flood)

  19. Only The Nose Knows March 5, 2009 at 9:35 pm -      #19

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who got the LE for the Halo 3 maps. Orbital is freaking awesome.

  20. HaloWarsEliteDotCom March 6, 2009 at 4:13 am -      #20

    LOL that was a great story….

  21. Thepocalypse March 6, 2009 at 6:15 am -      #21

    @Only The Nose Knows
    Have you played Outside Orbital? It’s great. I’ve got a map on the way called Dig, which uses all three levels of the map, it’s fantastic.

  22. Matapiojo March 6, 2009 at 9:45 am -      #22

    “Hey guys! why didn’t you include the Command & Conquer franchise?!”

    Read post #17 a little closer.

  23. Matapiojo March 6, 2009 at 9:48 am -      #23

    “Don’t worry about Halo Wars, RTS on the console has always been…Lackluster, to say the least.”

    Those are my sentiments exactly, which is why all those franchises take precedence to Halo Wars. However, this MIGHT be the title that finally makes me decide to get the console at all further down the road.

  24. L-W March 6, 2009 at 9:51 am -      #24

    I mentioned Command and Conquer: Red Alert, in fact it’s number nine on my list.

  25. hotshot March 7, 2009 at 6:27 am -      #25

    The halo 3 mythic map pack is awesome,especially sandbox

  26. Space marine March 7, 2009 at 7:08 am -      #26

    “But Starcraft 2 will be better then any RTS game even dawn of war 2. ”

    Woah……WOAH, Wait just a minute there buddy. I have to say that DOWII Has got to be one of the best RTS in history, Instead of defeat in campaign, You just fall back and gain less experience for your units.

    Then when you attack again the enemy is more heavily entrenched.
    BTW DOWII has the ‘Nids.

    Fun AS!

  27. Cpt Olimar March 7, 2009 at 11:03 am -      #27

    I was never a big fan of Age of Empires. I liked it and all, and its not like I didn’t get enjoyable hours out of it, but because the combat system is more realistic than warcraft, i.e. units die fast, you can’t really micro them back to save them and stuff. It just ends up being a large attack move of your units and hoping you win. Sure, I am exaggerating it, there is skill, but I prefer warcraft for that reason, and because warcraft’s world editor is absolutely amazing, yet obscenely difficult the first time you look at it.

  28. Matapiojo March 16, 2009 at 11:45 am -      #28

    WC3 is pretty brutal. Shadow Hunter + Farseer FTW! I used to be failry decent with those two, but my micromanaging skills would only be able to work those two guys at once. I was never able to work those two at the same time as a couple shamans and witch doctors.

    BTW, I play Orcs (hehehehe).

    With all the twists and turns and events in WoW, I wonder if Blizz is even thinking of a possible fourth war. They will be hard pressed to find a new mechanic to re-define the genrge like they did with WC3.

  29. StarCraft Guy!! March 18, 2009 at 12:08 am -      #29

    I think StarCraft will be the best out of any RTS. I love DOW II. I love Age of Empires, and I definitely like Command and Conquer. But StarCraft I like best.

    What I don’t like is Halo Wars. It’s not even a real RTS. Okay, you simply build a supply pad and….what…you dont have to do anything but let it collect resources?

    Also, skirmish is so cheap on Halo Wars.

    1. Play as UNSC.
    2. Build an Elephant and four supply pads.
    3. get Elephant to Covenant base.
    4. Initiate a lockdown on the elephant and train flamethrowers/marines.
    5. the Covenant base will go down pretty easily.

    And that is the stupidest thing ever..

  30. Onesidedfight March 18, 2009 at 9:58 pm -      #30

    Aribter, probhit, and chieftien go beast mode and kill Starcraft…
    Is what everyone in halo wars is thinking as they get torn to pices by statcrafts pure betterness.
    The only thing I like about halo wars more then other RTS games is huge turnarounds which I can mange in halo wars but not other games.
    And finaly, think I hate most about halo wars would either be it’s lack of custom games or the endless rushs that can only be fought off by rushing your enemys rush.

  31. Cpt Olimar March 18, 2009 at 11:54 pm -      #31

    “WC3 is pretty brutal. Shadow Hunter + Farseer FTW! I used to be failry decent with those two, but my micromanaging skills would only be able to work those two guys at once. I was never able to work those two at the same time as a couple shamans and witch doctors.”

    Ha mata, I play wc3 all the time now :/ If you even wanted to play with me… :)
    I’m also an orc player, but I go Blademaster and Shadow Hunter for the hex and roflstomp crits :D It’s funny, because I love playing as orc, but every race seems to have a huge advantage over them, whether it be caster strat on human, or Undead nukes. I’m pretty OK against elf though.

    Now that I think about it…. I don’t really play wacraft.. just DotA lol. It’s too addicting :(

  32. Onesidedfight March 21, 2009 at 11:00 pm -      #32

    Oh, and in halo wars my warthogs seem to like to vanish off the map, but still be alive. So even though I can select the warthog, I can’t even see it, or half of it is in the ground. Yey for glitches!

  33. the_man_with The_Answers March 28, 2009 at 10:51 am -      #33

    Star craft wins. Star craft started out rts. halo wars went from fps to rts.given enough time and effort bungie could actually make a great rts game from halo wars.

  34. zealot027 March 31, 2009 at 3:33 pm -      #34

    I’ve played both StarCraft and Halo Wars. Each has its ups and downs.
    Halo Wars
    Pros-
    -Co-op campaign is a good addition to my RTS library.
    -Halo is my all-time fave when it comes down to Sci-Fi shooters, so I’m pretty familiar with the units and their strengths and weaknesses.
    -Great cinematics.
    -Plenty of difficulties for different people.
    Cons-
    -Campaign kinda-I mean, REALLY sucks. It’s only really that fun on Co-op.
    -Multiplayer is either win or lose. No Map editor either.
    StarCraft
    Pros-
    -Campaign is long and satisfying.
    -Multiplayer is great once you understand a bit of one race’s tech tree.
    -Decent cinematics for 1998/1999.
    -Brood War is nearly a total sequel-and when you put both games on your computer so you don’t need the discs, you can access both games from one menu!
    Pros-
    -Graphics are outdated (but you can look past those.)
    -Too many hackers online.

    Well, look at my list. You can tell what I think

    STARCRAFT 4 LIEF!!!!!

    Has anyone looked at it this way though? What happens when a StarCraft FPS comes out? Same sorta thing may happen.

  35. the_man_with The_Answers April 5, 2009 at 10:50 am -      #35

    It sucks in Halo Wars how SPARTANs are grossly under-powered.

  36. DeathBite66 April 6, 2009 at 9:32 am -      #36

    well starcraft is a classic game, yea it has out data graphics but it was made in 1997? or 8 and brood wars was made is 1999. over all . the mother ship and make F#$%ing black holes and it can suck up halos univers.lol
    but starcraft is my faviret games, and DOW (dawn of war).
    come on a black hole lol.

  37. Cpt Olimar April 6, 2009 at 1:01 pm -      #37

    “It sucks in Halo Wars how SPARTANs are grossly under-powered.”

    That is, unless you are the Covenant o_O

  38. Simka April 9, 2009 at 5:06 pm -      #38

    Guys stop boasting about campaign and non competitive lvl of play

    if you play seriously you can see that DOW2 is so unbalanced and has 0 depth in strategy, atleast thats what good players day…

    starcraft is mother of all RTS not because it was one of the first its type BUT because it is still the most balanced RTS out there and in the strategic depth.

    and ofcurse starcraft is unarguably the most demanding RTS from player, it requires the most speed and brain capacity to play it succesfully, i mean 350+ apm you have to think about million things at once, its impossible to do everything unlike in games like WARCRAFt or DOW etc..

    ofcurse any game is hard to win in highest lvl and dont argue me with stupid shit about campaign and playing against AI you NEVER EVER play against AI to analyse a RTS in most RTS its easy to win against AI unless they have handicap(bonus recources etc)

  39. the_man_with The_Answers April 10, 2009 at 8:02 pm -      #39

    LOL you got tat right Cpt. I like all the new vehicles in Halo Wars. Too bad you can’t use them in Halo 3. I think there should be a Halo 4 similier to battlefront 2 were you fight the massive armies instead of controlling them. Add maps thet are HUGE, forge from Halo 3, all the vehicles from Halo 3 and Wars, make the forge buget even bigger, and I think it would be a real kick-ass game.

  40. the_man_with The_Answers April 19, 2009 at 11:38 am -      #40

    I tink if SC was gonna come out as another game, I think it would be better as a third person shooter because you arn’t exactly the hero of the game but rather an expandable soldier.

  41. Sapper007 October 14, 2009 at 2:50 pm -      #41

    Starcraft FTW…

    need more proof?

    “Nuclear launch detected”

  42. JMT October 20, 2009 at 9:18 am -      #42

    “LOL you got tat right Cpt. I like all the new vehicles in Halo Wars. Too bad you can’t use them in Halo 3. I think there should be a Halo 4 similier to battlefront 2 were you fight the massive armies instead of controlling them. Add maps thet are HUGE, forge from Halo 3, all the vehicles from Halo 3 and Wars, make the forge buget even bigger, and I think it would be a real kick-ass game.”

    Except for minor spelling errors, that post is full of win.

  43. Anti_Halo_Fan_Boy October 24, 2009 at 11:45 am -      #43

    You called down the thunder…. now reap the whirlwind.
    Nuclear launch detected.

    Yay FireBatHero =)

  44. mc pwns November 21, 2009 at 8:47 pm -      #44

    all it takes to beat starcraft is 10 spartins 5 marines 1 pyro marine 2 hornets and 1 scorpion tank

  45. Megaraptor18 December 8, 2009 at 12:30 am -      #45

    Starcraft is alway been my favorite RTS so I’m going with it.

  46. midnite marauder December 8, 2009 at 1:32 am -      #46

    @mc pwns-My god where do you trolls spawn from? I get so sick and tired of the trolls I think I’m about to put together a major strikeforce together, track down what ever filthy hole you little bastards spawn from, and burn it until the earth is scorched

    As for the match at hand the only advantage Halo Wars has is graphics. The gameplay most definitley goes to Starcraft. As for the better series gaming wise? Put it like this. When Starcraft 2 comes out the production from whole of South Korea will ground to a halt and every worker there will go on holiday.

  47. OriginalA December 8, 2009 at 3:29 am -      #47

    Well my total time playing StarCraft amounts to about 15 minutes, so Halo Wars pretty much gets an automatic vote from me. Despite the flaws in Halo Wars, and the fact that it is an RTS lite, it really isn’t all that bad of a game. It’s fun, if easy, and simple to control. These two things are notably the most saught after and often elusive components of a console RTS title, so my hat goes off to Halo Wars for actually being fun and all that.

    Incedently I never got far in StarCraft because I couldn’t find a balance in resource manegment and unit production. *shrug* I guess I just suck at RTS games, but strategy games were never my strongest genre [action and action/adventure are].

    Personally I prefer Total Annihilation and Supreme Commander over both StarCraft and Halo Wars. … At least in SupCom you KNOW when a Nuke goes off without having to be told about it… although the game will say “strategic launch detected” anyways though.

    You can’t do THIS in either of the games in this match, which is why my vote goes to SupCom.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7NrmyjIuxU&feature=related

    And if you don’t like that then you can just…

  48. SiggyMansz February 1, 2010 at 7:42 pm -      #48

    Total Annihilation FTW!!!!!!!!!! (only RTS that i know of that your units can actually miss in)

    my RTS games
    Total Annihilation
    C&C (all)
    total war (all)
    Dawn of War (all)
    Halo Wars
    Warcraft 3 + TTF + over 1 thousand custom maps (replay value much???)
    Rise of nations
    Starcraft and Brood War (starcraft was the birth of DOTA)

    those are not in any order but i like TA Starcraft War3 and DOW the best 8)

  49. chaosLord February 1, 2010 at 7:58 pm -      #49

    RED ALERT TWO AND ONE AND ALL THE CIVILIZATIONS THOSE WERE BEAST halo wars was 7/1O

  50. Kaelius537744 June 17, 2010 at 5:58 am -      #50

    I’m a pc gamer so the image of console fanboys fiddling around with their controllers and trying to click on the right unit in an rts makes me laugh. Seriously, how do you guys even play an rts? With horrible controls, no wonder nobody purchased the game.

  51. starsteam June 17, 2010 at 6:00 am -      #51

    They did make the starcraft for the N64 just fyi :D .

  52. CIDE September 28, 2010 at 8:33 am -      #52

    I got a few hours into Halo Wars and had to put it down later to sell it. THAT is a bad sign as I can tolerate some pretty bad guys.

    Starcraft on the other hand I love despite being HORRIBLE at it.

  53. Chaplin of the Emporer March 21, 2011 at 5:49 am -      #53

    my poinion halo wars and command and conquer kanes wrath are the best rts games
    cac and halo wars have great story lines,characters and game play

  54. Chaplain of the Emperor March 21, 2011 at 5:54 am -      #54

    sry 4 spelling………………….

  55. Paramedic March 21, 2011 at 6:18 am -      #55

    I agree Chaplain. I like games all the way around, however; I am seriously a console gamer more-so than a PC gamer. Halo Wars has my vote for more than one reason, but one of the top five reasons is due to the graphics. I’ve got a good laptop, but it can’t support StarCraft 2 in anything other than the ‘Low’ settings. Halo Wars, even though I am quite good at both PC and console gaming, I find the controller format more comfortable than StarCraft 2.

    Not getting into a different debate, should Halo Wars ever be pitted against StarCraft 2, I am confident I can keep up with and challenge the PC gamer even though I have the Xbox 360 controller. This is substantially because I am more comfortable with the layout and know how to work the controller to be just as fast as a PC gamer would manipulate hotkeys and keyboard manuevers.

    Characters were excellently portrayed in Halo Wars, while StarCraft and StarCraft: Brood War hold my vote in storyline, StarCraft 2′s storyline seriously came up short with me.

    John Forge is easily the Jim Raynor of the Halo RTS world. It’s a shame he had to give his life, but in doing do, saved humanity for than even the Master Chief did. Without John sacrificing himself, those things would’ve annihilated humanity without so much as a pause.

    John Forge earns my respect in the sense that he’s not a drunk. Raynor is quite an honorable man and a potent strategist, however; in the profession I am in I can tell you right now, should Raynor be a real person, drinking five or six times a day or more for four years… Jim’s lucky he can stand up, let alone function, his liver is well on it’s way to cirrhosis, his reflexes are so dull he’d be lucky to catch a paper ball thrown at him, and his judgement would be severely impaired. So here’s to you John, upholding a healthy body and mind in the fight against the Covenant.

    Jim Raynor earns my respect for the simple fact he’s lived through the things that he has. Jim’s lost his wife, his son and his home. All of his friends were slaughtered, the one true love he’d found in his life since the death of his wife, was infested and nearly wiped out the entire sector of the milky way galaxy. Kudo’s to you Jim, here’s the award for strongest heart!

  56. WaffleTosser March 21, 2011 at 7:02 am -      #56

    Laptops kinda hate starcraft…. Its meant to be played on PC. And even a lower end cards (4850) will still put you too high with a framerate of 50 on a 32″ TV. And we never even see the halo wars dude when hes not in combat, as far as we know he could be drinking his head off when we can’t see him.

    Keep in mind a drunk raynor still can stand up, give effective orders, and run no problem. This is a testament to his power.

    And chaplian, your playing RTS on console, so stfu.

  57. CIDE July 27, 2011 at 4:43 am -      #57

    SC for the FPA?

  58. Paramedic November 21, 2011 at 12:34 pm -      #58

    It’s been awhile. Ahh yes, I remember reading something about a brawl between John Forge and Spartan Douglas-042, alcohol was involved and it was said to involve several broken chairs and a few shattered bottles.

  59. Paramedic April 28, 2012 at 1:32 pm -      #59

    lol SC indeed for the FPA

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