Cloud Vs Link Vs Kratos Vs Sauron Vs Thor Vs Richard Rahl Vs Ganondorf Vs Rand al’Thor

Cloud Strife Vs Link Vs Kratos Vs Sauron Vs Thor Vs Richard Rahl Vs Ganondorf Vs Rand al'Thor

So here have a battle of heavyweights that would prove to be a fun match. At the risk of feeling L-W’s wrath (through logical reasoning on his part), I would pick Richard Rahl for the victor in this match.

Yes, I know Thor is a god, as well as Kratos. I know certain characters can only be killed with special weapons. While all the characters possess great strength and intelligence, I think it’s Rahl’s instincts to solve the problem instead of worrying about what the effects are would carry him to victory. He’d think of ways to temporarily outsmart his other opponents while buying him time to figure out what he needed to do in order to win.

So, I’ve drawn my line in the sand. What say you?

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633 Comments on "Cloud Vs Link Vs Kratos Vs Sauron Vs Thor Vs Richard Rahl Vs Ganondorf Vs Rand al’Thor"

  1. GuardianAngel1911 July 1, 2013 at 1:11 pm -      #601

    the correct one is in 597 though I don’t think it’s reaction.

  2. GuardianAngel1911 July 1, 2013 at 1:12 pm -      #602

    nevermind, it is one, we were discussing that one in Thor vs Superman.

  3. GuardianAngel1911 July 1, 2013 at 1:20 pm -      #603

    and found the calculation we had later, we calced Thor’s reaction time at around 2.54×10^-8 s which is faster than microseconds but not quite to nanoseconds.
    sorry for triple post.

  4. Aelfinn July 30, 2013 at 7:31 pm -      #604

    “we calced Thor’s reaction time at around 2.54×10^-8 s ”
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    How was this calced? I’m looking at multiple sources of information for black holes, and I’m seeing nothing indicating that Hulk would be moving at the speed of light or anything of that nature.

  5. GuardianAngel1911 the Ten Tails Jinchuriki July 30, 2013 at 8:09 pm -      #605

    @Aelfinn
    Marcel calced it in Superman vs Thor I don’t remember exactly which page now though.

  6. GreatApocalypse February 17, 2014 at 8:31 pm -      #606

    Wow this is a dead thread. Anyways, I’m with sauron on this one.

  7. Shgon Dunstan February 28, 2014 at 9:55 am -      #607

    @GreatApocalypse
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    Sauron’s got no chance here. Not only is he massively outclassed in raw power, but even with his corruption, most of the other guys are ether A. highly resistant/out and out immune, or B. would be like trying to “corrupt” rotting mold…
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    And LOL at the very idea that his brand of immortality is going to help him at all in this fight. :lol:

  8. GreatApocalypse February 28, 2014 at 1:03 pm -      #608

    Well, he certainly capable of killing Ganon, link, and cloud, he will just rape their minds. I personally think he’s very capable of conquering some of the bigger players minds here as well. However, he isn’t very much of a physical threat to Thor or al’thor.

  9. Shgon Dunstan February 28, 2014 at 8:34 pm -      #609

    @GreatApocalypse
    “Well, he certainly capable of killing Ganon, link, and cloud, he will just rape their minds.”
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    Doubtful. I don’t know Cloud, but Ganon probably has better mind-rape feats then he does, and Link not only has feats Vs Ganon, but a mind/soul that’s not just pure, but down right bleached…
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    “I personally think he’s very capable of conquering some of the bigger players minds here as well.”
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    Don’t know about Kratos or Thor, but Thor being a long running comic character from a setting with a lot of telepaths… I doubt it, but like I said, I don’t know.
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    Pretty sure Rahl has some good mental defenses, what with one of his main opponents being a SoT dreamwalker who LOLz at Sauron’s ability to mind-rape, and I know that Rand’s mind is well defended by the Pattern/Creator(not really clear in the books who/what is doing it), and that’s on top of there being a reason his called “Zen” by fans.
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    …Not that Sauron is actually going to survive long enough in this fight for any of this to even matter…

  10. Commander Cross February 28, 2014 at 8:45 pm -      #610

    If I am not mis-recalling, Ganondorf is also very much capable of Weather Manipulation via way of his Sorcery, during the events of ‘The WindWaker’, which is the first game from the timeline when N64 Link wasn’t available, actually.

    If I recall correctly, it was when WW/PH Link and his Ship found an Island that was cursed, actually.

    Somewhere around (2:00) of the following vid, actually.

  11. Jake_Uzumaki March 1, 2014 at 12:28 am -      #611

    well Thor is able to cancel out telepathy with lightning..as to corruption Mephisto tried messing with his soul once…and got burned by the purity.

  12. Zazax March 1, 2014 at 1:23 am -      #612

    He’s got nothing on Cloud either. Pardon the game-speak (it’s literally all we have for Cloud’s magic), but Cloud’s got stuff to protect against status effects like Confusion, which could help. At the very least Cloud’s a bullet-timer capable of one-shotting Sauron either physically or with magic (gotta love the Death spell).
    I’d actually go so far as to say that Sauron is probably the weakest combatant here, unfortunately. Thor almost certainly wins, followed by Rand. I’ll be a bit controversial and say that optimally-equipped Cloud is probably the next best, although Ganondorf’s up there too. Cloud’s already beaten composite Link (and, unofficially, Rahl) on this very site, at least.

  13. GreatApocalypse March 1, 2014 at 2:16 am -      #613

    But here’s the deal with the ring. I’m all for it that Sauron is one the of the weakest physical combatants here. The ring however, gets to you no matter how “pure” you are. Even with the likes of Thor. If we’re doing this by physical embodiments gone first, then yes, Sauron is down pretty early. The only one able to withstand stand the ring is Tom Bombadil and he’s on another level of power compared to ANYONE on this list.

  14. Negative Zero March 1, 2014 at 2:59 am -      #614

    Ganondorf could babyshake Suaron pretty handily.

  15. Commander Cross March 1, 2014 at 3:25 am -      #615

    Total Composite Ganondorf is just insane to deal with, nothing beyond what Rand al’Thor or 616 or MCU Thor can fight, but a lot of everyone else would be hard-pressed to stop him.

    Everyone is a dangerous nutcase in some respect or another in a fight like this, being in the position of anyone in the way of such ferociousness would be very bad for anyone’s health, generally speaking.

  16. Shgon Dunstan March 1, 2014 at 8:00 am -      #616

    @GreatApocalypse
    “But here’s the deal with the ring. I’m all for it that Sauron is one the of the weakest physical combatants here. The ring however, gets to you no matter how “pure” you are. Even with the likes of Thor. If we’re doing this by physical embodiments gone first, then yes, Sauron is down pretty early. The only one able to withstand stand the ring is Tom Bombadil and he’s on another level of power compared to ANYONE on this list.”
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    Only the Ring just flat out wouldn’t work on Rand, and I’m, though I mainly only know him from Vs, rather doubtful it would on Rahl ether, and more to the point… With both of them, the ways they’d both likely kill Sauron, those being Balefire for Rand and Sub-Magic for Rahl, are both fully capable of destroying/dealing with the Ring right along with, and in the same attack as, Sauron himself.
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    Like Zazax said, Sauron is likely the low man on the totem pole in this fight.

  17. Jake_Uzumaki March 1, 2014 at 12:37 pm -      #617

    @GreatApocalypse
    Yeah Satan (well Mephisto) thought the same
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    Thor was in Loki’s body (long story) but just touching the body containing Thor’s soul caused him pain. Thor revealing his soul fully to Mephisto forced him to retreat for a while
    i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorNobility01180.jpg
    i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorNobility02181.jpg
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    Another time Mephisto goes up against Thor’s soul, tries to consume it to make it his….but Thor doesn’t like that idea
    i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorDurability26a-Nobility381.jpg
    Note the universal level satanic corrupter saying “I cannot break him”

  18. GreatApocalypse March 1, 2014 at 12:45 pm -      #618

    I tried Sauron, I tried…

  19. PrimusxPilus March 1, 2014 at 12:49 pm -      #619

    Again Rand can break ANYTHING that is not straight up indestructible in Canon. In his Canon there is ONE thing that can’t be balefired, so don’t say NLF. The Ring is NOT immune to EVERYTHING. If you want to continue to say Rand can’t then deathgate would take the ring far away, skimming portal you lose it forever, create a gate to the World of Dreams, rag doll Sauron inside then will it broken, etc. Sauron, AGAIN, is the weak link

  20. Shgon Dunstan March 1, 2014 at 1:00 pm -      #620

    @PrimusxPilus
    “Again Rand can break ANYTHING that is not straight up indestructible in Canon. In his Canon there is ONE thing that can’t be balefired, so don’t say NLF. The Ring is NOT immune to EVERYTHING. If you want to continue to say Rand can’t then deathgate would take the ring far away, skimming portal you lose it forever, create a gate to the World of Dreams, rag doll Sauron inside then will it broken, etc. Sauron, AGAIN, is the weak link”
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    There’s also just cutting it with a gateway, or, thanks to site rules putting it there, gating it into Mt. Doom… Hell, it would be interesting it see how the Ring reacts to Rand’s sword of the Light. :D
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    Honestly, there’s actually a lot of different things Rand could do to the thing, he might even be able to just use the OP to destroy it’s “will” and so get to keep it’s “power”. Such a feat should definitely be possible in the WoD if nothing else. :lol:

  21. GreatApocalypse March 1, 2014 at 1:04 pm -      #621

    The ring could only be destroyed by casting it into Mt.Doom, and it WILL get to Rand, anyone equal to the power of a Maia (basically a lesser diety) will be corrupted by it’s power. It is physically impossible to throw it in willingly. Although throwing it in from far away with some telekinesis power might work.

  22. PrimusxPilus March 1, 2014 at 1:14 pm -      #622

    @apoc
    Lolno. If the Dark One’s (Satan, THE Big Bad) taint and madness failed, what makes you think Sauron, who is NOT their Big Bad (that’s Melkor/Morgoth), can do any better? And Melkor again was just a Valar “archangel” (Lucifer) to Eru (God), making Sauron a base angel to Dark One’s counter to the Creator (God). Rand literally had his brain/will infected With the Dark One and the Creator actively counters it permanently. Yeah…. God is in Rand’s brain protecting him :p

  23. Shgon Dunstan March 1, 2014 at 1:20 pm -      #623

    @PrimusxPilus
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    To say nothing of Zen-Rand having crazy mental control as shown in his dealing in WoD, and his complete an utter control of his own deams(even more so then is normal in WoT metaphysics… WoT not exactly being a place Freddy Krueger would want to rent a summer home to begin with :lol: ).

  24. Shgon Dunstan March 1, 2014 at 1:25 pm -      #624

    Oh, and just to note, the One Power does have containment/sealing weaves(both the one used on the dagger, and the ones used on the wounds in Rand’s side), that are rather easily applied to the Ring, particularly given the daggers nature as “the Ring, only with more “I’m going to kill you” “.

  25. Commander Cross March 1, 2014 at 1:38 pm -      #625

    Sauron is what we often coin ‘The Devil’s Lieutenant’ more than anything for a reason.

    Still a very lethal, powerful and deadly threat in their own right, yet a lot of the people in here are capable of smashing Lieutenants like him.

    Add to the mix that even then, Not All such Lieutenants are created equal, and it doesn’t seem best to blame Sauron if he cannot keep up.

  26. Jake_Uzumaki March 1, 2014 at 2:09 pm -      #626

    Rand Richard and Thor have all resisted the power of bigger fish than Sauron, much bigger.

  27. GreatApocalypse March 1, 2014 at 3:47 pm -      #627

    Now a good fight would be to replace Sauron with Melkor… But now yes, I think ol’Sauron is out of it:(

  28. Shgon Dunstan March 1, 2014 at 7:23 pm -      #628

    @GreatApocalypse
    “Now a good fight would be to replace Sauron with Melkor… But now yes, I think ol’Sauron is out of it:(”
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    Don’t really see it changing much.
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    Honestly, barring maybe an unlikely light-speed hammer to the face from the word go, Zen-Rand could likely take this, thanks to overdrawing from Callandor, rather easily… For a MAD, what with doing so being deadly… God-Rand? God-Rand is… God-Rand… Phenomenal Cosmic Power!!!… And a self lighting pipe… Yeah. :?

  29. GreatApocalypse March 1, 2014 at 7:34 pm -      #629

    Melkor could easily, easily swat these combatants aside like they were mere flies (except maybe Rand, with that damn bale fire)

  30. Shgon Dunstan March 1, 2014 at 7:44 pm -      #630

    @GreatApocalypse
    “Melkor could easily, easily swat these combatants aside like they were mere flies (except maybe Rand, with that damn bale fire)”
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    …Melkor? “Easily swat aside” 616-Thor? LOL… Even high end Melkor.. No, just no.
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    Besides, Melkor is less then an ant to WoT’s Dark One, and Zen/God-Rand overdrawing from Callandor was able to out and out manhandle the Dark One, only not killing it because he chose not to.

  31. GreatApocalypse March 1, 2014 at 8:05 pm -      #631

    Melkor is the 2nd most powerful entity of tolkiens legendarium, short of only eru himself. While his powers wre extremely vague, however the prophecy says that during the Dagor Dagorath that a man named Turin will slay Melkor, finally ending evil itself. Melkor would destroy authors mind so very easily, either that or he’ll just corrupt him with power. And remember, Melkor is when he is at his strongest. He raised mountains many times higher than Everest, and he bore the searing pain of the sun threefold on his head for thousands of years! However, I have yet to read WoT, even though it looks really good. Sorry if I’m being stubborn, but I’m a diehard Tolkien fan.

  32. GreatApocalypse March 1, 2014 at 8:07 pm -      #632

    Sorry, autocorrect messed it up. Authors is meant to be Thor.

  33. Shgon Dunstan March 1, 2014 at 8:10 pm -      #633

    @GreatApocalypse
    “Melkor is the 2nd most powerful entity of tolkiens legendarium, short of only eru himself. While his powers wre extremely vague, however the prophecy says that during the Dagor Dagorath that a man named Turin will slay Melkor, finally ending evil itself. Melkor would destroy authors mind so very easily, either that or he’ll just corrupt him with power. And remember, Melkor is when he is at his strongest. He raised mountains many times higher than Everest, and he bore the searing pain of the sun threefold on his head for thousands of years! However, I have yet to read WoT, even though it looks really good. Sorry if I’m being stubborn, but I’m a diehard Tolkien fan.”
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    The Dark One is more like an Evil-God, or Eru to use Tolkien. It is the equal and opposite of WoT’s God(the Creator), and has the power to destroy an entire multiverse with a thought, and then, if it so chooses, remake it to it’s will.

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