Here is a match between Goku and the Hulk that sets up to lay waste to whatever and whomever is nearby. The amount of destruction these two would inflict battling would be tremendous to watch…
…who wins?
Goku Vs The Incredible Hulk
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That doesn’t seem likely,infact i would say goku at best could knock him into orbit.
Ofcourse this would only make him mad.
“That doesn’t seem likely,infact i would say goku at best could knock him into orbit.
Ofcourse this would only make him mad.”
Yes, Goku can KO Hulk, because when Goku is about to die, he became more stronger and powerfull same when he is about to lose & the more he battle he became even stronger, Remamber the Battle of Goku vs Broly:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ1EJleuzXs.
Goku beat Broly the legendery SSJ that destroyed a galaxy & is a super powerhouse.
And remember the battle of Goku vs Lord Slug:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohTUdLS92QQ.
See when Goku was about to lose(died) & look at all the things he love and protect been destroy in his very eyes, & he snap!!!! whit rage and became way powerfull.
So all that are my fact to Goku that he can beat(KO) Hulk.
Goku for the FP awards.
I’m inclined to give it to goku. . .Only because he could blow the Hulk’s head off.
“Yes, Goku can KO Hulk, because when Goku is about to die, he became more stronger and powerfull”
The way i remember it they have to come back from defeat.Whereas Hulk’s will continue to grow.
“Goku beat Broly the legendery SSJ that destroyed a galaxy & is a super powerhouse.”
DBZ movies aren’t canon.I could have sworn we told you this in Superman vs Goku
@Marche
“DBZ movies aren’t canon.I could have sworn we told you this in Superman vs Goku”
You think he reads what we actually post? Well, he does but only remembers what is convenient….
Goku could just hit him with a planet buster, shouldnt that knock out the hulk?
Why would goku planet-bust?He can’t survive in space either.
Thats also not his M.O
Marche is correct, Goku cares for the earth and its inhabitants he would sooner die than destroy it…unless you remove CIS.
Goku has launched plannet busters and not destroyed the earth, he just pointed them towards the sky. He did it against cell who could regen from his legs. Hulk regen’s as well, why wont Goku do it against him? He could also blast him with a mountain or a moon buster.
I read somewhere that The Hulk can withstand the weight of tectonic shifts…I doubt a mountain would harm him…just saying.
I think Goku has the speed and maneuverability to duck Hulk and what not indefinitely since Hulk doesn’t have the FTL speeds that Supes beat Goku with, but short of a direct planet busting attack (which might not even be enough) I don’t think Goku really has anything to 86 the Hulk with for good.
But I admittedly am lacking some knowledge on the Hulk (and even Goku, been several years since I watched DBZ), he could be stronger or weaker than I give him credit. I’m still pretty sure Goku at the very least has speed and aerial maneuverability on his side, which could go pretty good for him.
Planet busting isnt Goku’s top, Cell claimed he was able to destroy the solar system with a kamehameha, Gohan
I say let the thread die. As it will as soon as I post. fuckers.
@Envoy
And Cell wasn’t GT?
But if Goku hit Hulk whit a teleporting Kamehameha(the Kamehameha that Goku use to destroy Cell, but Cell regenerate at 100%) and desrtoy Hulks body like Hulk’s arms, chest & head(Like cell ends by Goku’s teleporting kamehameha) Hulk isnt gana regenerate because his death rigth there.
Hulk wins for two reasons
1. He has time on his side and Goku will continue to pound him until he get madder and madder and once Goku slows down with fatigue Hulk will mush him.
2. Today’s my Birthday and what I say goes lol jk
Have you watched the show?
DragonBall happened then DBZ then the non canon DBZGT, cell apeared in the cell saga, which happened in DBZ and before the buu saga.
@Envoy
Yeah I skimmed through a few episodes of Cell and Buu’s sagas, so I didn’t know at what point in the show (DBZ or GT) they occurred.
“I read somewhere that The Hulk can withstand the weight of tectonic shifts”
Skaar abosrbed the earths kinetic energies and hit the hulk with it,sending him from D.C to West virginia.
Hulk comes back and beats the shit out of him afterwards however.
Still, hitting Hulk with highly destructive blasts should work well. Unless he casualy takes planet busters like pb&j.
“Still, hitting Hulk with highly destructive blasts should work well. Unless he casualy takes planet busters like pb&j.”
Getting hit by Thor constantly through out the years, being able to hold off Sentry who depending on interpretation of “he has the power of a thousand suns” is equal to Thor and Hulk in power out put, and being able to survive every conceivable weapon Marvel has thrown at him, I say it would take more than a planet blast to finish him off. Hulk is a being that strength is immeasurable if he is able to keep conscious and getting more pissed off at the moment.
A being like Superman has a chance, his his base strength is at planet destroying levels and he is a FTL being. He could take out Hulk theoritacally by speed blizting him the moment the match starts, before Hulk could get pissed off enough to withstand those blows.
Goku however, is not FTL (he just teleports, there is a difference) and his base strength output is no where near Supermans. This of course means that even if Goku is slightly stronger than Hulk, he has no way of killing Banner; this means of course, that Hulk would still be conscious and very upset at this “man who thinks he is strongest!”.
– pf
“, I say it would take more than a planet blast to finish him off.”
Goku should be able to nuke a solar system at least.
My vote still for Goku.
I’m thinking Goku could be killed easier. But the hulk would never lay a blow on Goku.
Goku could teleport hulk to a peaceful planet somewhere. Or destroy the planet their on and teleport himself and let the hulk drift in space. etc.
goku could defeat hulk because while hulk can get stronger as he gets angrier this does not mean he is invincible. look at wrath of the dragon goku beat hirudegarn in one blow and he was huge. goku could simply turn super saiyan if needed and get hulk with a kamehameha. master roshi could cut the moon in half with that attack and goku is at least 50 tomes stronger than him. hulk can stop missiles but look at another movie the return of broly and gokus son… his son! goten could lift a giant dinosaur with one arm with the greatest of ease. imagine how strong goku is? i believe goku has just won the battle.
goku would definently win goku can kill hulk with a spirit bomb and goku can go to super sayian 1,2,3,4 and mabey even more possible goku would win
“goku would definently win goku can kill hulk with a spirit bomb and goku can go to super sayian 1,2,3,4 and mabey even more possible goku would win”
It can’t be proven Goku can do it via brute force. It’d be out of battlefield removal that Goku can win. Or blowing up the planet they’re on and teleporting out to leave the Hulk to drift listlessly through space for eternity.
Hulk smash spikey haired man!!!!!!!!
While that would be unlikely the banter back and forth between these two would indeed be very hilarious.
“the banter back and forth between these two would indeed be very hilarious.”
The banter between Hulk and ANYBODY would probably be hilarious…..
Given the attacks given to Boo and Cell – both of whom can regenerate at the cellular level – and how Goku was strong enough to keep up with Oob at the end of the series in his base form – Oob being implied to be every bit as strong as Kid Boo – I’d say Goku would rather easily be able to blast Hulk down to relatively nothing. At least, too little to actively regenerate from.
I vote Goku.
Martial arts almost universally trumps brute strength. Hulk also needs to be angry to pull off his better feats. Goku will begin the fight with vastly superior speed, strength, and combat skill. I don’t see how this doesn’t end up being OHKO for Goku unless he goes easy on Hulk at first. Just replace Superman with Goku in the one versus they did that had Superman one punching Hulk and that’s pretty much how this fight will go.
He’s just too slow, and too poor a fighter to be able to become strong enough to challenge Goku before this ends.
I vote Goku too.
@CIDE
lol, very true,
@Sauroposeidon
Yeah, not gonna lie, Goku can OHKO Hulk np. There’s a problem attached to this matchup though: BankGambling vs’s remove PIS and CIS, yet Goku is a character based on The Power of Love, Inner Strength and Friendship – and that links up with CIS.
When Goku gets pounded into oblivion he sees his loved ones threatened by his defeat and increases in strength.
Additionally, his pureblood saiyan nature will almost always tempt him to contend with a superior force, meaning he could allow Hulk to rageroid up to the point where a OHKO would require more energy than he currently has available, a la Vegeta and imperfect/Perfect Cell.
The above isn’t guaranteed, of course. When Goku arrived to save Gohan and Krillin from the Ginyu Force, the desire to take the opening Recoom exposed was too overwhelming to pass up for his martial arts trained mind and saiyan desire.
So, how do we remove CIS from Goku who is pretty much its avatar and genuinely stupid otherwise? I need some info on what Goku would do if CIS is completely removed before I vote.
On an unrelated note, what’s with all the casual profanity and semi-literate fanboyism on the site nowadays? I’ve lurked for years before I made an account and I’m seeing a lot more of that in recent posts. Or am I wrong?
Then Lobo came holding a container of popcorn and a large can of softdrink, as well as a lawn chair.
But seriously,
Here’s something to think about…
Goku can fly…
As such he can fly higher than Hulk can jump (correction os highly appreciated)
And so he can simply wait for Hulk’s anger to subside.
Bah. Wish that was how it would go. Hulk’s anger is like that of a tantruming toddler. If he can’t get to what he wants (Goku’s prettyboy face) do you think he’s going to calm down?
And on the jumping range, someone mentioned it somewhere (this thread?) – that’s all dependent on his raged-up powerlevel, so….
How epicly hypocritical can you people be? You rave on about how you need evidence and want proof and not opinions and to be logical. Yet whenever someone says something in favor of goku which is logical and COMPLETELY TRUE, you tell them to go away and stop spouting nonsense.
@spellca: let us review: frieza destroys planets without thinking, SS1 goku beat frieza, goku in goku vs cell is infinity times stronger than goku in gokuvs frieza, goku can’t beat cell (by cell I mean perfect cell), but gohan can. They don’t make black holes because they don’t have that type of energy, but they have the power, and because they are good people and black holes are bad. Back to my first point, even if goku loses, gohan wins.
Plus, who says goku can’t go SS10? They can breathe in space, destroy galaxy clusters in single blasts and are pretty much in destructible.
Somebody seems upset……
The more goku hurts bruce, the more pissed he gets, the stronger he gets, the more lopsided this gets. goku’s best chance is to chill until hulk takes a nap and then sneak up on him… but if that doesn’t work he gets more pissed, stronger and this match becomes once again lopsided.
First of all, where are they? Are they on earth, in acity, on a deserted planet, etc? It matters a lot. If the planet is empty, goku destroys it. And to anyone who says “no, hulk regenerates”, he cant if he just got blasted with a universal spirit bomb. Also, goku does move ultra fast, he just doesn’t want to fly to other planets so he instant transmits.
Ok I’ve seen some of your posts and you say that Hulk will keep getting angrier and thus stronger. You also bring up that when hulk is strong he can hold together or destroy planets. So it sounds like you think that Hulk can get that angry by being hit. He can’t, there’s only a certain level of anger and will you can get in a fight. Whenever Herod those amazing feats, he would lose everything if he didn’t. It doesn’t matter how much he gets hit, he’ll never get that amount of anger, the stimulus just isn’t enough.
Where does it say hulk can survive a planet buster? saying he can is no limit fallacy.
Hulk smash spikey haired man
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“Where does it say hulk can survive a planet buster? saying he can is no limit fallacy.”
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Nova blast
johnny storm’s supernova isn’t planet busting and it only creates temperatures near a super nova . oh and i forgot goku is probaly past planet busting if we powerscale he’d be +solar system busting so try agian
“Nova blast”
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Proof that it busted a planet? Last I recall Torch’s attack was just named that because if he hit Hulk with the Nova blast, he’d have destroyed the planet.
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Goku busts the planet, Hulk floats endlessly in space.
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Goku wins by BFR.
“Proof that it busted a planet? Last I recall Torch’s attack was just named that because if he hit Hulk with the Nova blast, he’d have destroyed the planet.”
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I think i heard here it had the power of a our star
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Anyways given Goku can’t survive in space or survive planetary explosions as far as can be proven
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Hulk smash
“if we powerscale he’d be +solar system busting so try agian”
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If its a reference to the ‘Cell is a star system buster’ thats a hyperbole, try again
“I think i heard here it had the power of a our star”
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Either way, it’d have destroyed the planet but didn’t.
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“Anyways given Goku can’t survive in space or survive planetary explosions as far as can be proven”
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Instant Transmission.
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“Either way, it’d have destroyed the planet but didn’t.”
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And i think he withstands attacks from Silver Surfer who can bust planets with ease
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“Instant Transmission.”
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Range and how do he do it after blows up the planet and dies?
“If its a reference to the ‘Cell is a star system buster’ thats a hyperbole, try again”
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how was it a hyperbole? he claimed he could do it and was about to do it until gohan stopped him
“how was it a hyperbole? he claimed he could do it and was about to do it until gohan stopped him”
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Because it was a statement and hes never demonstrated said capability
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Like how Sentry is claimed to have the power of 1,000,000 supernovas
Why would Cell need to bluff about that? The Z Warriors knew full well just how destructive the blast would have been because they all can sense the ki energy.
why is this a power battle? instant transmission the hulk into space where all of his strength will do no good and he floats until BFR comes into effect because of it.
Goku sings a lullaby. Game over.
@Mike
Well mostly it’s just to prove the potential power Goku has. I just can’t let it slide when someone says a Solar System busting attack was just an exaggeration.
LOL at people thinking Cell and Goku can’t bust solar systems. At the start of the series Piccolo was a planetoid buster with out even using the Special Beam Cannon. Frieza could easily obliterate entire planets and even when he wasn’t holding back he couldn’t beat Goku. Brolly wiped out an entire galaxy (although over time I think, but still.) and we all saw how he suffered villain decay. Piccolo reached his peak during the Cell Saga and he was vastly superior to himself at the start of the series. Beyond Frieza, beyond Brolly. He was still no match for Perfect Cell. At what point is bringing down a sun particularly difficult for these beings, exactly? Because a hero does no engage in wanton acts of destruction now means that he physically can not achieve such? how is SSJ3 Goku not able to take down a sun when just powering up to that state he has greater effects on the planet than Hulk did at the greatest we’ve ever seen him? These guys are extremely powerful, fast, and tough.. and most importantly, display expert martial arts as well. Even if Goku weren’t able to just instantly KO Hulk, it’s not like he doesn’t have other techniques or the martial skills to take him on.
If, for some reason, Goku does go easy on the Hulk long enough to make him mad to the point where he might possibly withstand Goku’s attacks, couldn’t the latter simply put him in the sun?
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Goku takes this with a hop and a skip. Or maybe without those, but still.
Yeah. Goku would have to go out of his way to lose. Unless he knows Hulk gets stronger over time I don’t see him taunting or playing with Hulk for very long either. Hulk has no chi and does not start out very strong in comparison. I mainly see Goku apologizing for what’s about to happen and promising that he’ll send King Yama (or whatever the fellow’s name is, I can’t quite remember) a voucher to go easy on the poor guy to make up for what’s about to happen.
@admin
on this site can we please use DBGT goku since its basically a continuation of DBZ
No, please, not GT. Please no.
GT wasn’t recognized by Akira Toriyama as canon I think.
“No, please, not GT. Please no.”
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why not? Goku is revelatic in speed
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“GT wasn’t recognized by Akira Toriyama as canon I think.”
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he designed ss4 goku
and besides he’s credited as a author in the credits images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/0/04/ToriAuthor.png
Because GT is sooooo bad. I can’t sit through it. It’s terrible. I don’t care how strong Goku gets to be. It’s awful, and if I recall we’ve seen a SSJ3 move at relativistic speeds before when one (I think it was gotenks?) was going around the planet repeatedly.
@Sauro
That was actually SS Gotenks and it was over a period of half an hour. I believe he went around Earth 8 times. You can probably figure out his speed based on that.
goku in GT flew across a 4th of the world in a second
“LOL at people thinking Cell and Goku can’t bust solar systems”
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Do you mean in one blast? Because that is kinda crap. They CAN bust planets, that’s been shown time and again, and they could go from planet to planet, but one blast destroying an entire solar system? I don’t think that has ever been shown. And you can’t just say “power scaling” because we don’t know how much their power scales, and how powerful that makes their attacks.
“That was actually SS Gotenks and it was over a period of half an hour. I believe he went around Earth 8 times.”
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-and took a nap of unknown length.
“Do you mean in one blast? Because that is kinda crap. They CAN bust planets, that’s been shown time and again, and they could go from planet to planet, but one blast destroying an entire solar system? I don’t think that has ever been shown. And you can’t just say “power scaling” because we don’t know how much their power scales, and how powerful that makes their attacks.”
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-cell stated he could with a kamehameha, goku is much much stronger than him at the end of dbz, even a whole new level of SSJ.
“-cell stated he could with a kamehameha, ”
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I know that DBZ people can destroy planets. I completely agree, and I even did in my last post.
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“goku is much much stronger than him at the end of dbz, even a whole new level of SSJ.”
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I know he’s stronger, but that doesn’t mean that he can go from planet-busting to solar system-busting. The sheer volume that a solar system takes up compared to a planet, and the fact that the blast would have to destroy multiple planets means that it is too large of a jump.
“I know that DBZ people can destroy planets. I completely agree, and I even did in my last post.”
-no, this was in response to you not thinking they are solar system busters. cell stated he could blow up the solar system with a kamehameha.
“cell stated he could blow up the solar system with a kamehameha.”
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I’m pretty sure that it was just the planet, at least in the Kai version. I know that it isn’t the original, but I assumed they didn’t change much. If I could see him saying this…?
@mike
rand stated that with the chodan kal he could destroy the planet, ut you refused to elie this saying that theres no way rand could know how much it takes to destroy the planet
proe cell knows how much power is needed to destroy a solar system
@fallstar
-you fail so completely.
-first, to claim something you must have an idea of the scale of what you are going to destroy and what kind of power it would take
-second, it was not destroying the world in the conventional sense, it was using balefire, of which has no destructive yield to measure and also has an unknown level of it to be used to unravel reality(which is what is stated to do), even when it was first used it was stopped because everyone on both sides of that war were afraid of it destroying the world.
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-so basically, rand is an idiot.
sooooooooooooooooo goku?
@Aelfinn
Vegeta’s Final Flash reached far into space, swereving it through a bunch of planets on the way would be easy.
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You seem to think that Cell was going spread his blast as wide as the solar system. The didn’t even make City wide blasts until the Buu saga.
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Cell was mmost likely planning on shooting the sun and blowing up both the sun alongside the surounding system.
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Also, original Manga and Anime both said Cell was blowing up teh solar system.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWcgZZ_GRhM&feature=player_detailpage#t=93s
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www.goodmanga.net/dragon_ball/chapter/416/4
Watching the scene. Gotenks is traveling around the planet in anywhere from 0.5 Seconds to 0.75 Seconds. That’s just guessing though. If you want to actually time it be my guess. I just say “1 locomotive” when I see him and count when he appears on screen again as having circled the world.
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Light travels at just over 29,978 kilometers a second. The Earth is a little over 12, 756 kilometers in diameter. Gotenks is CLEARLY flying beyond the surface of the planet, massively increasing how far he’s flying. In fact it’s pretty clear that the Earth’s diameter is maybe a third of what he’s doing. But I don’t want to bother with specifics so we’re just going to go with Earth’s Diameter here. As we can see from the numbers alone, even if Gotenks was flying around the planet once per second he is still going at relativistic speeds. If he’s going around it once every half a second, he’s damn near going the speed of light. If he’s doing this at the altitude we see then he’s pretty much going like .90% the speed of light. So lower range estimate just from quickly watching the scene, 40% speed of light, upper being 90. I think we can rest now that SSJ3’s can move at relativistic speeds. We don’t need GT for them to achieve this.
@sauro
the calcs for gotenks speed are actually much simpler than that. he went round 8 times over the course of half an hour. the diamater of the earth is 7926 miles. multiply times 8
63,402, now double for miles acheived in an hour aka mph. 126,816
He pretty clearly did it in less than half an hour.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=voUtB7-K7Tw
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Here’s the scene, for the record.
9 revolutions in 7 seconds. lol ok that increases his speed a bit. that puts him at 256,802,400mph
Oh and he’s not even SSJ3 in that. Knowing Goku at SSJ3 is superior to Gotenks in the same state, and that they achieved this feat with out being SSJ3 I think is the final nail in the coffin. Goky doesn’t need GT to be relativistic.
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@Sauro
The reason why we said SSJ Gotenks did it in half an hour is because after his little trip he went to confront Buu immediately afterwards and became separate before confronting him. It’s all in the manga.
Oh he also took a nap for an unquantifiable amount of time.
“http://www.goodmanga.net/dragon_ball/chapter/416/4″
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So it was just how much power was behind it, not actual solar system busting? I mean if it were in itself solar system busting wouldn’t it have destroyed the part of the planet he was on just by firing it?
Also isn’t Cell pretty boastful, couldn’t that have just been him exaggerating?
@Dr. Lowk
Bringing logic into a DBZ fight is ill-advised. Regardless of how energy blasts work, Cell knew exactly how much power was stored in the Kamehameha. Ki sensing ability proves this to be true.
“Bringing logic into a DBZ fight is ill-advised.”
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Well Gohan did manage to at least match it cuz he “believed”, so I guess you’ve got a point…..
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Last question, whatever happened to scouters?
Scouters couldn’t reliably gauge their Battle level after a certain point without blowing up.
so yeah GT is canon though and SS4 goku can be used right?
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off topic broly destroyed a galaxy though
Didn’t Broly do that overtime and not in one instance though?
@SS
Its unknown how he did it and how long it took, but he certainly never one-shotted it
“so yeah GT is canon though and SS4 goku can be used right?”
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Since when? Don’t bring that garbage in here. Not that GT changes feats at all. If anything GT made most characters weaker.
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“off topic broly destroyed a galaxy though”
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Negative. Not only does it have no bearing on the debate (non-canon movie) but we see in that movie that there were entire systems still intact when Goku traveled to Broly’s location. Also, this was brought up in a series of youtube videos on the subject; most of what american fans know of brolly were all fucked up translations.
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“Didn’t Broly do that overtime and not in one instance though?”
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He didn’t do it. Period.
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““so yeah GT is canon though and SS4 goku can be used right?””
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It wasn’t even writen by Akira Toriyama
“Since when? Don’t bring that garbage in here. Not that GT changes feats at all. If anything GT made most characters weaker.”
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STFU Akira was a writer for GT and last I checked Goku was a deminsion buster
“Goku was a deminsion buster”
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Is this guy for real?