Goku Vs The Incredible Hulk

Goku Vs The Incredible Hulk

Here is a match between Goku and the Hulk that sets up to lay waste to whatever and whomever is nearby. The amount of destruction these two would inflict battling would be tremendous to watch…

…who wins?

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2,703 Comments on "Goku Vs The Incredible Hulk"

  1. L-W February 25, 2009 at 11:35 pm -      #1

    This really doesn’t seem that fair, after all, what can Goku do to tickle, let alone actually hurt the Hulk?

  2. Baron Somebody February 25, 2009 at 11:56 pm -      #2

    Something tells me that Goku could win, but Hulk might be too durable

  3. cyborg pirate ninja jesus February 26, 2009 at 3:11 am -      #3

    i think its actually pretty close im a huge hulk fan but goku is heaps stronger than frieza and frieza destroyed a planet so goku could probably do more……so i think if he could somehow concentrate all of that destructive ppower into an attack that hits the hulk he would probably win but if hulk lives its all over coz goku would be too worn out to fight back

  4. Thepocalypse February 26, 2009 at 6:13 am -      #4

    I suppose if Goku really let loose, he could smack Hulk around a bit, but beyond that, he’s not going to have much luck. The Hulk’s healing factor would keep him coming back stronger and stronger until he was invincible and could simply rip Goku apart. Maybe if this is GT Goku he’ll have a chance, but otherwise, naw.
    So I’m gonna throw in my money with L-W and Baron S.

  5. hellatus February 26, 2009 at 7:44 am -      #5

    Goku can actually destroy a planet but i know that it takes alot to kill or hurt hulk

  6. Jwlynas February 26, 2009 at 8:56 am -      #6

    As long as he’s kept at range, Hulk can’t do much to Goku.
    Problem is, alot of people have tried to keep Hulk at range, and it never works out too well for them.

    Hulk wins, after repeated Kamehameha’s to the face. He goes on to beat the rest of the DBZ/GT universe to death, and then a deux ex machina appears and he gets wished back to his own world.

  7. Rob (Expertimp) February 26, 2009 at 9:04 am -      #7

    Goku only gets stronger with each attack.. he would win

  8. Matapiojo February 26, 2009 at 9:18 am -      #8

    I KNOW this will flood with Goku fanboys at some point, which in turn will plunge this match into a progressively escalating debate, so I’ll make this simple. Before doing anything in this match, go research Gamma-ray Bursts.

    Done? Ok.

    THATS what the Hulk could do if the struggle escalates enough, which I am sure it will. I know you will bring about all the points of Goku destroying planets and yadda, yadda, but a Gamma-ray Burst would be the equivalent of a Gogeta-SS4 Kamehameha x1,000.

    This is how the fight would go:

    1 – Goku gets pummeled.
    2 – Goku resorts to blasting Hulk with everything hes got.
    3 – Hulk keeps coming, quite angrier.
    4 – Goku unleashes a blast that destroys the earth.
    5 – Hulk survives.
    6 – Hulk becomes more enraged that he has ever been as everything he knew was destroyed.
    7 – Goku gets vaporized by Hulk’s Gamma-ray Burst.
    8 – End of fight.

  9. L-W February 26, 2009 at 9:44 am -      #9

    Since Goku cannot survive the vacuum of space, destroying the planet would be a moot point as it would kill Goku, but leave the Hulk unharmed and free to push his way towards the nearest Planet.

  10. JoshMcFace February 26, 2009 at 1:10 pm -      #10

    Matapiojo I did not know Hulk had that much destructive power! Even as someone who has liked DBZ for a while, I can see how a GRB could defeat Goku, especially as it would be so foreign to him in comparison to the Ki energy attacks that he puts up with, which makes blocking almost impossible.
    The ONLY way Goku could win this is in my opinion is if he could somehow make a universal spirit bomb. Though this is out of the question as Goku would need so much time.
    And btw for future commenters arguing for Goku, no he cannot use the dragonballs to “wish Hulk out of existence.” That is complete speculation!!

  11. Thepocalypse February 26, 2009 at 3:47 pm -      #11

    “Goku only gets stronger with each attack.. he would win”
    So does Hulk, to a much greater degree. FAIL

  12. Matapiojo February 26, 2009 at 3:49 pm -      #12

    “Matapiojo I did not know Hulk had that much destructive power!”

    Yes, you are that powerful when you are a manifestation of an endless energy reaction/conversion loop. Piss Hulk off enough and the possiblity of the entire universe getting exterminated is not out of the question.

    This is a quote by L-W in the Hulk vs Thor that fully applies to this situation and is full of rightous correctness:

    “…Then the Hulk can just keep coming back, stronger with each passing second that Thor allows him to live. There’s a reason why Richard Reed and the Sentinel stated that at the end of time, the only thing left will be the Hulk and what remains of the universe.”

    Ironically enough, the only way others have managed to effectively deal with the Hulk is by sending him away, but Hulk just comes back to excert his rage on the ones that dismissed him. That of course, is not the point of these matches.

    Goku would do well to try to befriend this monster as an alternative, even if it kills him in the process.

  13. The One Sin February 26, 2009 at 4:35 pm -      #13

    I knew you couldn’t resist this one admin.

    “This really doesn’t seem that fair, after all, what can Goku do to tickle, let alone actually hurt the Hulk?”

    A friend and I debated this. I explained the abilities of the hulk but he stood by the strategy that goku would blow up the planet with a spirit bomb and do instant transmission to namek.

    But after a wiki search it said that the hulk could survive extended periods in space, in their exact words. It never said how long exactly. But I guess this could work if depending on how long the hulk can survive in space but it is all pretty doubtful to me.

    But in a one on one fight Goku would lose after they redefine the word “epic”.

  14. Thepocalypse February 26, 2009 at 4:56 pm -      #14

    Hulk VS Kharn please.

  15. marche February 26, 2009 at 6:32 pm -      #15

    may i also add that goku gets stronger when he recovers from near death.
    the hulk would beat him down so quick……
    nevermind.

  16. Cpt Olimar February 26, 2009 at 7:31 pm -      #16

    ironically, isn’t goku pretty good at making friends with weirdos. I mean just look at the crew, lots of…. interesting people. The Hulk might just be another green friend :)

    @ mata/L-W
    (BTW, I am NOT a dbz fanboy or a marvel one, but how strong do you think goku is in marvel terms. I mean… he is like WTH strong. Not to start another Superman vs goku thread, but is goku around superman’s strength? or not that strong.)

  17. EnigmaJ February 26, 2009 at 8:20 pm -      #17

    I have to disagree with L-W and the others at this moment… though I have a feeling I might be proven wrong =(

    “Since Goku cannot survive the vacuum of space, destroying the planet would be a moot point as it would kill Goku, but leave the Hulk unharmed and free to push his way towards the nearest Planet.”

    Just wondering. Its widely accepted that Saiyans cannont breathe in space. However, what really reveals this? I mean, haven’t there been plenty of moments where saiyans have been able to breathe in space ( Bardock vs Freiza, Vegeta destroying Arylla or whatever that planet is called, and Broly on quite a few occasions ) Vegeta even attempted to bust Earth the first time he fought Goku. Would he be that stupid as to attempt to blow up the planet in a “last ditch” effort to defeat Goku when it would kill him too. This wasn’t even a “last ditch” effort as later on he revealed he could effevtively increase his power ten-fold by going Great Ape. If all these other saiyans could apparently breathe in space, then why not Goku?

    “This really doesn’t seem that fair, after all, what can Goku do to tickle, let alone actually hurt the Hulk?”

    What version of the Hulk is this? Does he have any special items?

    If this was World War Hulk (Green Scar? World Breaker?), then theres nothing Goku could do to stop him. This is the kinda guy who can lift mountains, punch at mach speeds, and with great enough force to punch through dimensions. Goku will go in for the kill, and inadvertantly find himself ripped in half. This guy fought one on one with the Sentry, who could match if not exceed Goku energy output.. Goku would find that none of his attacks would work. The only moves he has ever used that could kill this monster is his Spirirt Bomb ( But Hulk has to have evil intentions. But I’ve read your past arguments for what is actually evil, so I think you might disagree. ), which usually kills you if your bad and his Big Bang Kamaheha x100 which destroys the being at the molecular level I think. However, he can only use this when fused with Vegeta, an option he doesnt have. This is for the WorldBreaker.

    However, I don’t see how any other version of the hulk could kill Goku however. Goku could fly for one thing. How is Savage Hulk supposed to fight this. Goku was able to release enoguh energy to blow up the planet by the end of the Saiyan Saga ( This can be assumed because he was able to clash with Vegeta’s blast, which was supposed to be able to do so. ) This legitamacy of what Vegeta said is debatable, but there is no doubt that Goku by the Buu Saga is able to planet bust.

    You say “destroying the planet would be a moot point as it would kill Goku”

    Goku doesnt have to blow up the planet. The idea is that Goku has the capacity to release enough energy to blow up planets, if he had to. This means that he could potentially level cities, mountains, and moons if he wanted to. This suggests that he could focus a small amount of that energy to destroy the Hulk. This of course is assuming the Hulk can’t withstand such a force. Now I know WWH/ Maestro could probabaly tank those shots, but any other Hulk forms dies. You might want to comment on this…

    Now also is the strenght factor. WWH can supposedly ( from what I’ve heard ) stomp and destroy the entire east coast, pull continents into place, and can literally break planets if he has too. ( Elaborate please. I’m not sure on this. ) The best feat Goku has is holding up a city I think in GT. Most if not all Hulk forms are much stronger then Goku.

    However, this is somewhat moot ( Except for WWH ) , if you consider thier speeds. Goku is arguably faster than light. Apparently, thats not widely accepted by either you L-W or Matajio since it hasn’t been mentioned. I somewhat beleive in this myself, and I definately don’t have the ability to debate this with you guys and win =\. However, from what seems blatantly obvious to me, Goku is faster than the Hulk. He is atleast sound speed ( Considering Nappa cruised alongside a jet once ). Too fast for most of the Hulk forms to do any significant damage.

    What do you have to say???

    I think Hulk in World War Hulk ( or Maestro ) version wins this. Savage Hulk or any other version loses badly….

    And I don’t know if the Hulk has any items. Could you elaborate on this.

  18. EnigmaJ February 26, 2009 at 8:26 pm -      #18

    w00t, two Stars!

    Admin, is there a limit to how any stars you can get?

    And when do you decide to put up new matches? When you feel like?

  19. admin February 26, 2009 at 9:14 pm -      #19

    @EnigmaJ – no limit to the number of stars you can get.

    There are always at least 2 matches posted per day, sometimes more.

    Admin

  20. L-W February 26, 2009 at 11:00 pm -      #20

    Where on earth do I start with this one? Well, the beginning would be the most logical choice.

    1) There have only ever been a few instances in which Saiyans have bypassed the atmosphere to enter space (Frieza does not count since his species have somehow attained the ability to replicate an aura simulating their natural environments), but these have often been brief and often fatal ventures attributed to non-canon or retconned ventures.

    As I mentioned, Frieza could accomplish this because his race can survive in the vacuum of space. Buu could do it because he can survive in the vacuum of space. The very reason Frieza blew up Namek was the fact that Saiyan’s cannot survive in the vacuum of space while he can. Face it, if Goku goes into space he dies. In fact the entire “Frieza saga” was based on the premise that if he could destroy the planet he would kill Goku, forcing him to flee via ship.

    It is established in every canonical source that Goku’s “Shunkanidou” technique is actually teleportation. For example, when King Cold and his cyborg son Frieza arrive on Earth, Goku teleports back to Earth through the vacuum of space via a Ki teleportation marker. We know that Saiyans cannot survive in space (anime filler aside), so Goku could not have traveled through it. He must instead have teleported.

    Whilst certain Saiyans have survived briefly survived the Vacuum of space (The duel with Boss Rabbit on the moons comes to mind), saying that Goku can do so when evidence dictates that he cannot is nothing more than conjecture.

    2) What you need to remember is that there have just been so many different Hulk incarnations over the years that Marvel has had to continually retcon the current canonical depiction. There’s Grey Hulk, Professor Hulk, Joe Fixit, Savage Hulk, Banner Hulk, Guilt Hulk, Devil Hulk, I could go on and on and on.

    But World War Hulk is Banner’s current “base Hulk”. It’s just the most dominant incarnation at the moment and therefore the basis at which all other Hulks work from and around.

    3) The Hulk has withstood far worse punishment long before his WWH incarnation, let’s see:

    a) There was the Mjöllnir impact that he took to the face courtesy of Thor.
    b) A direct and concentrated Nova blast from The Human Torch that is said to be greater in output than our nearest star.
    c) Deflected the sub-atomic wave beam of the Gladiator (Kallark) with his bare hands, a beam so powerful that even on its lower outputs can split structures at the molecular level.
    d) Dissipated the Power Cosmic with his bare knuckles.
    e) Withstood several direct planet ending blows from Galactus, returned to normalcy and continued to pound him with greater ferocity.
    f) Withstood the voice of the Black Bolt, which is capable of undoing the entire universe on a molecular level.
    g) Laughed off an attack from the ultimate nullifier, nothing merely laughs off an attack from the ultimate nullifier.
    h) Stopped a second miniature universe from spawning by clasping his hands around it.
    i) Was pulled into a black hole, which he managed to literally fight his way out of by wrestling with the core.
    j) Absorbed and saved the universe from a spawning alternate dimension by swallowing it whole.

    The Hulk can survive undue levels of punishment, and even the Celestials mentioned that it would take the power of a million stars combined to just temporarily slow him down. The word “temporarily” cannot be stressed quite enough here.

    4) Those exploits of strength listed were some of his “low end” epic feats. Whilst holding a planet together, lifting a tectonic plate, throwing a mountain, destroying a coastline, lifting Thor’s Hammer, obliterating an Asteroid twice the size and density of Earth and stopping the Juggernaut in his tracks with a decapitating punch are actually quite impressive. It is ultimately nothing when you consider the fact that the Hulk single handily held together the fabric of space and time of the known universe when trapped in a time storm, or once supported and divided the force between matter and anti-matter, a proponent that as of which is physically irresistible.

    5) I never considered speed simply because it is not an issue.

    In the past, the Hulk has dealt with opponents who can travel faster than light or even teleport, and has often come out on top on almost every occasion imaginable. He once yanked the Silver Surfer out of the sky and threw him violently into the Earth, he managed to backhand the Flash (Who was at the time attempting to vibrate him into an alternate state of existence at FTL speeds) and once caught Kallark in the midst of teleportation (Literally yanked him out of thin air) and partially fragmented his molecular structure upon re-entry.

    Speed has never been a real issue for the Hulk, who treats it more like a game than a challenge.

    – – –

    I must finally reiterate a point that been continually repeated until nausea on this thread and many others. The Hulk is the ultimate definition of the term infinite, he is after all powered by a “Pocket universe” that never ceases to output the energy necessary for him to not only survive but to be the biggest and strongest there is. He is an example of perpetual motion, an unstoppable force that will ultimately find a way to be the best there is.

    Superman can fly faster? The Hulk will just continue to mutate and grow until running at the speed of light is nothing more than a trivial enterprise of his total abilities.

    Galactus too strong? His rage will only increase until he’s strong enough to crush Galactus and swallow him whole.

    Is a second Big Bang threatening to destroy the universe? Just clap it out of existence you big green brute.

    Is David Banner getting in your way as per usual? Just kill him until there is nothing but the Hulk.

    Is life just getting him down? Don’t worry, Hulk will be last thing there is the entirety of existence. Or as he put it:

    “Hulk is…Only one…There is. Only one…There…Is”

  21. marche February 26, 2009 at 11:03 pm -      #21

    @cpt olimar superman is in fact many times stronger.

  22. Matapiojo February 27, 2009 at 8:36 am -      #22

    I don’t see how this match had room for argument past post *, but L-W’s post 20 puts the proverbial titanium nail in the coffin.

    I am sure that somehow the Goku support will continue to provide “escalating” examples, but I have a feeling that everything will be shut down with a simple reference to post 20.

    Hulk fought his way out of a Black Hole, one of the most destructive forces known to man that go well beyond epic…

    …nuff said.

  23. EnigmaJ February 27, 2009 at 4:13 pm -      #23

    Ok…. you win. WWH wins. Not much more I can say.

    But as for the other versions. I mean, I know that regardless of the version, the Hulk has the capacity for a limitless amount of strenght. But doesn’t that still take time. You even brought up Galactus ( I think you just mentioned him to bring up a point but still… ) Hulk is definately powerful, but far from lifting a mountain or holdung the universe together at base form. ( As calm as he could be Hulk state)

    Galactus and Goku shouldn’t have a problem killing him off at the start of th match. ( Right? ) I mean, it’s kind of hard to keep fighting or get stronger when your vaporized. What do you say???

    I mean, all that stuff you said were amazing but how long did it take for the Hulk to get that far ( I’m asking )… and one more thing. How could the Hulk clobber Galactus?? Isn’t he ” a force of nature”. Galactus must have been starving.

  24. Matapiojo February 27, 2009 at 4:41 pm -      #24

    The problem is that even “starting off”, Hulk has proven to be , for lack of a better term, unkillable. Which is what starts the chain reaction of Hulk going critical.

    -Hulk minds his own business.

    -Goku comes along and lands a devastating blast.

    -He then gets pummeled in the face by a punch that crumbles mountains before the dust settles.

    Hulk is no alien to being cheap-shotted by pretty potent beings, but all they do is make him angrier.

    “How could the Hulk clobber Galactus?? Isn’t he ” a force of nature”. Galactus must have been starving.”

    Im not sure you have been following 100%, but the main point of this argument is that Hulk is in fact one of these “Forces of Nature”. He is Rage incarnate.

  25. JoshMcFace February 27, 2009 at 7:04 pm -      #25

    So what would it take to destroy the Hulk? If anything?!
    Goku’s strongest attacks destroy the very cells of a being, but I can see the Hulk somehow dramatically getting out of those attacks midway, or throwing them back.

  26. L-W February 27, 2009 at 7:44 pm -      #26

    Are you kidding me Enigma? I just explained to you that the Hulk tore apart the bonds between matter and anti-matter, which by all known scientific principle is physically irresistible. If the Hulk can disable the inherent laws of physics with his strength alone, attacking and destroying Galactus was nothing more than a chore at best.

    Let us not forget that whilst Galactus is the embodiment of a “force of Nature”, the Hulk has also clobbered and destroyed the Marvel equivalent of “Death” and “Eternity”. Why may you ask? Because the Hulk is the embodiment of “Infinite strength” (Or rage as Mata righteously put it).

    Also, here are just a few examples of scenarios in which the Hulk was caught off guard at his “base” form:

    The Fantastic Four decide to land a cheap shot only to regret it one panel later:
    i139.photobucket.com/albums/q311/Lew88/609630-942fe486_md_super.jpg

    The man of steel tries to catch man of green off guard:
    i139.photobucket.com/albums/q311/Lew88/hulk-vs-superman.jpg

    Admittedly wandering beneath a mountain was not their best idea to date, but when Team Marvel realize they are seconds away from death they leave the relatively calm (For now) Hulk to do the heavy lifting.
    i139.photobucket.com/albums/q311/Lew88/Hulk-mountain-Secret-Wars-4.jpg

    Look at Iron Man just sit there and do absolutely nothing, what a jerk!

    They almost had Hulk calm enough to reason with, until the Human Torch decided to unleash a Nova burst. What a Hot Head!
    i139.photobucket.com/albums/q311/Lew88/Human-Torched-World-War-Hulk-02.jpg

    Finally, I added this one purely for the awesome artwork.
    i139.photobucket.com/albums/q311/Lew88/Planet-Hulk-tectonics-Incredible-Hu.jpg

  27. EnigmaJ February 27, 2009 at 9:13 pm -      #27

    Ok, you win.

    Goku’s going to attack the Hulk and doom his whole universe =(

  28. Cpt Olimar February 27, 2009 at 9:22 pm -      #28

    hmm. Man before I came to this forum I just thought that the Hulk was just this powerful dude. The real specifics arent very mainstream eh? Do you have any idea why they made the Hulk so “over”powered if you will.

  29. Matapiojo February 27, 2009 at 10:14 pm -      #29

    Because like every character worth anything, Hulk’s limitations lie within himself rather than an outside force. He is an example of a tortured soul that can do almost anything he wants, with the exceptions of his own inner demons and their individual desires.

    Only Hulk can kill Hulk.

    Which is why I’m so excited about Planet Skaar. I hope they make it a good one.

  30. L-W February 27, 2009 at 11:03 pm -      #30

    Marvel had attempted to use Captain America as their “go-to” guy for too long, and considering that DC’s golden era Superman could juggle planets, Marvel needed a super counterpart who could outclass him in every respect.

    Originally the Incredible Hulk was just as you described, an incredibly powerful mutation akin to the likes of Spiderman. In the first few comics the Hulk was fighting solely human targets, but as the series progressed the demands for greater antagonists grew, and so the likes of the X-Men, Abominations and the Fantastic Four were thrown at him.

    The Hulk still won. Even when DC and Marvel pitched their Supers against one another, it was pretty conclusive that the Hulk would obliterate Superman on almost any occasion given the evidence presented.

    What you have to remember is that the motto for the Hulk series is:
    “STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!”

    When they created the “Pocket Universe” theory, they pretty much gave the Hulk free reign to kill whoever he pleases whenever he pleases. Just look at this scan from where he fights Thor just to reinforce my previous point.

    hulkspace.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=2108&d=1060659651

  31. Cpt Olimar February 28, 2009 at 12:38 am -      #31

    Now I have no idea which characters belong to which companies (that probably puts me in the minority on this site) but could the opposing comic company just have their hero be even epic and so on. I mean, what prevents superman from being able to …. i dont know…. EAT THE HULK. Yea… that was dumb but, you know what I mean. (I wonder if yoshi….that egg…. nevermind)

  32. L-W February 28, 2009 at 4:28 am -      #32

    Whilst being the proverbial man of steel, Superman is still limited to his humanoid physiology. Meaning that he can juggle a planet or destroy the sun with a single gust of air, but stretching his digestive tract to accommodate anything larger than himself or safely unhinging his chew to consume large masses are beyond his means.

    This is the opposite for the Hulk, who once ate Galactus following their second confrontation, absorbing his power.

    “but could the opposing comic company just have their hero be even epic and so on.”

    DC could, but they choose not to. Instead they are now limiting Superman to new constraints in order to enhance the drama of the current narrative arc. Thus they’ve been gradually weakening the character (He’s now dying of cancer) over a period of time to remove his moniker of “Man of Steel” and create a fallible and wholly more Human character.

    Whilst Marvel has been gradually intensifying the Hulk, because just as Matapiojo pointed out, the drama of the Hulk character stems from the steady separation of his own humanity from the inevitable domination of the Hulk persona. Only the hulk may kill the Hulk, thus the dilemma.

  33. Matapiojo February 28, 2009 at 8:35 am -      #33

    The Hulk and Supes met in another occasion to do battle on the cross-company event Marvel vs DC (or DC vs Marvel).
    upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a7/Dc-vs-marvel.png

    Like it is always in these sort of events, companies will never trully agree on one of their beloved characters being outclassed. In that instance, DC could not let his top dog get upstaged by a often “vilanous” character from their competing nemesis. In this case, the event shows superman beating the Hulk.

    However, that is far from realistic. The fight took only a space of a few panels as the event was done in just a couple of issues and it had some other fights that were just as important (Silver Surfer vs Green Lantern, Batman vs, Cpt. America, etc). The fights in that event HARDLY give either character due justice.

    This dude also goes into detail to an event that was somewhat overlooked.
    www.typepad.com/t/trackback/1049684/26405140
    Once again, the companies just were not up to the challenge of mixing these two up propperly.

    While a true slugfest will most likely never happen, by most acounts of knowledge of physics and cientific probability, Hulk should deffinitely win a match against Superman. Specially so if it becomes a prolonged engagement.

    That will never happen, though. Superman holds too much fan-suport for that reality to ever be portrayed in an official medium. It will fall onto places like this, with people like us, to set the record straight.

  34. Matapiojo February 28, 2009 at 8:36 am -      #34

    Sorry for the double post, my second link didn’t work. I hope this one does:
    comiccoverage.typepad.com/comic_coverage/2008/02/friday-night–1.html

  35. Cpt Olimar February 28, 2009 at 1:21 pm -      #35

    “Whilst Marvel has been gradually intensifying the Hulk,”
    was it really gradual? The Hulk I “know” (I dont really know him…) like I said before is this super strong dude. Somewhat like the juggernaut I guess. Although I don’t know specifics on either.

    L-W you said that the Hulk started like I imagined. How quickly did he actually go from strong green man to uber crazy strong. Was it really slow? Or did an issue just have him smack superman up out of nowhere?

  36. EnigmaJ February 28, 2009 at 3:26 pm -      #36

    I dont know, but something like that should happen gradually. It’d be kindof wierd if one day Captain America ate some power cosmic induced fries and became more powerful then Galactus overnight.

  37. HHIIII MEEe February 28, 2009 at 3:59 pm -      #37

    Goku would win because he can go super saiyan 1 though 6 and the big monkey guy in 4-6. says my bro and in my opinion if goku did befriend the hulk then he would just wait for banner to turn to normal then just spirit bomb him while hes sleeping and just end it all i that’s against the rules then the hulk definitely would win unless he wished an anti-hulk hulk

    (stretching for it in the end)

  38. marche February 28, 2009 at 4:01 pm -      #38

    “It’d be kindof wierd if one day Captain America ate some power cosmic induced fries and became more powerful then Galactus overnight.”
    reminds me of dr manhanttan,or molecule man(but atleast molecule mans power came from another dimension.)

  39. L-W February 28, 2009 at 4:34 pm -      #39

    There are literally thousands of various Hulk issues, with hundreds that are not in my possession. Essentially different writers for different series have created a vast web of differing timeliness for the exact same character. You seem to forget that this is a character whose origins stem from the early 70’s, with an evolution that has spanned multiple decades.

    You’re both making massive and inconclusive leaps of judgment based on a character that you’ve both admitted to knowing absolutely nothing about and only continues to be malformed with each respective post. Especially when Mata and myself have practically fed you this information already, which you somehow seem to be deliberately ignoring.

  40. marche February 28, 2009 at 4:37 pm -      #40

    “Goku would win because he can go super saiyan 1 though 6″
    in canon goku only goes to ssj4,and GT is barely canon.

  41. The One Sin February 28, 2009 at 6:58 pm -      #41

    HHIIII MEEe:”Goku would win because he can go super saiyan 1 though 6 and the big monkey guy in 4-6. ”

    L-W:” There was the Mjöllnir impact that he took to the face courtesy of Thor.
    b) A direct and concentrated Nova blast from The Human Torch that is said to be greater in output than our nearest star.
    c) Deflected the sub-atomic wave beam of the Gladiator (Kallark) with his bare hands, a beam so powerful that even on its lower outputs can split structures at the molecular level.
    d) Dissipated the Power Cosmic with his bare knuckles.
    e) Withstood several direct planet ending blows from Galactus, returned to normalcy and continued to pound him with greater ferocity.
    f) Withstood the voice of the Black Bolt, which is capable of undoing the entire universe on a molecular level.
    g) Laughed off an attack from the ultimate nullifier, nothing merely laughs off an attack from the ultimate nullifier.
    h) Stopped a second miniature universe from spawning by clasping his hands around it.
    i) Was pulled into a black hole, which he managed to literally fight his way out of by wrestling with the core.
    j) Absorbed and saved the universe from a spawning alternate dimension by swallowing it whole.”

    I used to think L-W was just being harsh when he said people can’t or won’t read previous posts, but I guess there is a point to that claim.

  42. Matapiojo February 28, 2009 at 7:36 pm -      #42

    “I used to think L-W was just being harsh when he said people can’t or won’t read previous posts, but I guess there is a point to that claim.”

    No kidding, mate. No kidding.

  43. JoshMcFace February 28, 2009 at 7:51 pm -      #43

    The Hulk broke Thor’s hammer?! Damn…
    L-W that artwork is awesome, I’m tempted to try something like it myself now. Anyway, Hulk beats Goku. He’s just seriously too strong. For most people.

  44. HHIII MEEe February 28, 2009 at 9:48 pm -      #44

    Goku would blow Hulk away with a Instant Transmission Super Kamehameha

    Scenerio:Hulk and Goku going full force in a fight,
    Hulk:”Hulk angry!!!”
    Goku starts a Super Kamehameha Hulk starts to run at him full
    speed and Goku sits there charging the Kamehameha ,it is almost halfway,and laughes a little.
    Hulk:”Hulk kill man with big hair!!!!!”
    Goku:”Hehe”Hulk is three feet away,two one and then BANG he dissapears
    Hulk:”HUH????”He looks back and forth,back and forth,then suddenly Hulk hears
    Goku:”HAAAAAAAAAA”
    Hulk+”HAAAAAAAAAA”=Hulks going out with a big,big BANG!!!!!!!!!!!

  45. marche February 28, 2009 at 11:16 pm -      #45

    well,im not gona bother explaining what was wrong with that post,just look at comment 20.

  46. camzarcar March 1, 2009 at 12:47 am -      #46

    goku would win :)

    Lets think about it for a second, Hulk is no match for goku because:
    at the start of dragon ball z, in the first few eps, piccolo basically dodged raditz’s attack which was the speed of light, and his power level was around 350 , or something and since super sayain is 180,000 then uhhhhh, goku could power up kamahama and instant transmission right next to help an bam! hulk is gone. In the canon, I agree that hulk is very strong, but goku is in a different league. Broly even destroyed a galaxy, and some people say that ss4 goku would just have a chance, no, he would destroy hulk with a fingertip.
    Also, Hulk has to actually fight back against the humans to have a fighting chance, when the dbz villans dont even fight back, an example is cell, he didn’t even fight back when loads of missiles, tanks and helicopters thought they got him, but no, with one blast they were all gone.
    Also Hulk can’t get any stronger if his body is blown off by goku’s attack.

  47. L-W March 1, 2009 at 3:35 am -      #47

    Camzarcar, can you please *try* and put together a coherent argument, so that in future I may have something even remotely substantial to work with. I’m not asking much, just that you wrangle as much of that gray matter you can and converse on a reasonable level.

  48. Thepocalypse March 1, 2009 at 9:07 am -      #48

    “goku could power up kamahama and instant transmission right next to help an bam! hulk is gone.”
    No kamehameha could ever hope to destroy the Hulk, he could regenerate if you threw the sun at him. You need to do more research obviously.
    “some people say that ss4 goku”
    Are “some people” the same as the phantom “they” that seem to support every idiot’s arguments against people who actually know what they’re talking about.
    “he would destroy hulk with a fingertip.”
    Evidence or a reason why? And no he could not. Hulk regenerates from everything.
    “Hulk has to actually fight back against the humans to have a fighting chance”
    Hulk uses his power through his body rather than energy blasts, that’s why. It takes no true effort for him to destroy military technology.
    “Also Hulk can’t get any stronger if his body is blown off by goku’s attack.”
    He’ll grow a new one from matter created by his internalized gamma radiation. You have no real idea what you’re talking about.

  49. Darksalad March 1, 2009 at 9:58 am -      #49

    okay one there are several versions of the hulk (comic book, old film, new film) but only one version of Goku, and since no one can hate Goku anyway due to the fact that he is inherently likable the Hulk would not be able to reach his optimum anger level leading to his defeat.
    Also due to the big pile of confusion that is dragon ball Z Goku’s actual strength can never really be defined, but he is basically supposed to be as strong as the human mind can dream up, however the hulk is just supposed to be unstoppably stong which is weaker, Goku never loses to marvel characters:)

  50. EnigmaJ March 1, 2009 at 1:09 pm -      #50

    -“Goku never loses to marvel characters”

    Can Goku defeat Odin, Galactus ( or even any of heralds ), Thanos etc.

    DBZ doesn’t match up to the higher cosmics of Marvel or DC

    -“Also due to the big pile of confusion that is dragon ball Z Goku’s actual strength can never really be defined,”

    Your right about that.

    “but he is basically supposed to be as strong as the human mind can dream up”

    Where did you pull this from?

    “and since no one can hate Goku anyway due to the fact that he is inherently likable the Hulk would not be able to reach his optimum anger level ”

    So the Hulk is going to want to sing and dance with GoKu while he’s blasting away at him? Would you like him if he was charging a kamaheha at you or landing his fists into you face a couple of times a second?

    ——

    L-W explained pretty well why Goku would lose.

    So can Goku do any of these?

    L-W:” There was the Mjöllnir impact that he took to the face courtesy of Thor.
    b) A direct and concentrated Nova blast from The Human Torch that is said to be greater in output than our nearest star.
    c) Deflected the sub-atomic wave beam of the Gladiator (Kallark) with his bare hands, a beam so powerful that even on its lower outputs can split structures at the molecular level.
    d) Dissipated the Power Cosmic with his bare knuckles.
    e) Withstood several direct planet ending blows from Galactus, returned to normalcy and continued to pound him with greater ferocity.
    f) Withstood the voice of the Black Bolt, which is capable of undoing the entire universe on a molecular level.
    g) Laughed off an attack from the ultimate nullifier, nothing merely laughs off an attack from the ultimate nullifier.
    h) Stopped a second miniature universe from spawning by clasping his hands around it.
    i) Was pulled into a black hole, which he managed to literally fight his way out of by wrestling with the core.
    j) Absorbed and saved the universe from a spawning alternate dimension by swallowing it whole.”

  51. Thepocalypse March 1, 2009 at 3:18 pm -      #51

    I was pretty much going to say what EnigmaJ did, Goku has no hope against such a power. Hulk has no limits. He can beat anything short of omnipotent gods. I’m talking DO ANYTHING kind of omnipotence as blinking him out of existence is the only way of stopping him I’d think.

  52. hitman8 March 1, 2009 at 8:36 pm -      #52

    how about goku turns super sayian 4 charges up a spirit bomb and vaporizes hulk and every thing else. oh and since the thing about goku vs superman was a tie and superman killed the hulk in marvel vs dc goku wins.

  53. Matapiojo March 1, 2009 at 11:55 pm -      #53

    “superman killed the hulk in marvel vs dc”

    You must have received a new variant of that issue, cause that is NOT what the rest of the world saw.

    We also explained this phenomena, but I don’t expect one such as you have the common sense to actually read a few posts above you.

  54. Zenkai March 3, 2009 at 4:56 am -      #54

    Uhm, the writers said the Hulk couldn’t withstand a blast from Nuclear Warhead if it was in direct contact with him. I dunno how powerful Goku’s blast is but if it’s stronger than a nuclear warhead he could probably kill the Hulk. Unless he tried to fight the hulk with fist first. Hulk would just grab him and rip him in half.

  55. Matapiojo March 3, 2009 at 10:24 am -      #55

    @ Zenkai

    Well thats the beauty of the industry. One or more writers MAY have said that, but MARVEL clearly disagreed:
    www.incrediblehulkonline.com/nukereistance.html

    It is not uncommon to have conflicting creative opinions in this sort of media, but the fact remains that the event was actually published. Hulk DID survive a Nuclear blast. He has survived worse sinse then.

    I still don’t get how you can argue your opinions against solid facts that L-W and myself have provided…

  56. kano547 March 3, 2009 at 8:31 pm -      #56

    i vote no more hulk vs anybody matches because no matter who it is they will get theyre butts handed to them but only if the hulk was nice enough to give them back

  57. marche March 3, 2009 at 10:11 pm -      #57

    “i vote no more hulk vs anybody matches because no matter who it is they will get theyre butts handed to them”
    not exactly,i can name 5 off the top of my head that would beat the hulk.
    he is just a beast.

  58. kano547 March 4, 2009 at 12:54 am -      #58

    and who would they be i think we just established that a guy who accidently blew the moon i half would get stomped

  59. marche March 4, 2009 at 7:33 am -      #59

    besdides the obvouis ones(man or miracles,Living tribunal.)

    Saint of killers.
    superman prime(one million)
    majin dark schneider
    spectre
    master mogul.

  60. Matapiojo March 6, 2009 at 8:13 am -      #60

    *continues list*

    Ghost Rider

    …………..what? Don’t tell me you didnt see that one comming.

  61. kano547 March 6, 2009 at 6:39 pm -      #61

    i have never heard of any of these people bear in mind i had a life until recently and on the subject what about marvel vs dbz?

  62. Matapiojo March 7, 2009 at 8:28 am -      #62

    “marvel vs dbz”

    Marvel would completely dominate.

  63. Marche March 7, 2009 at 1:28 pm -      #63

    ““marvel vs dbz”

    Marvel would completely dominate.”

    hell thanos,hulk,and galactus is all they need.

  64. JoshMcFace March 7, 2009 at 3:11 pm -      #64

    Galactus could possibly handle it by himself. Black star Shenron MIGHT be able to cause a problem to him, as he had the least limits in power out of all the Shenrons, and his dragonballs are scattered about the universe, making his absolute destruction hard to achieve. Yet he would only be of use if he had his own will, which I don’t think he would. So Galactus dominates.

  65. KiraMasteroftheNote March 7, 2009 at 6:55 pm -      #65

    Goku would win. Instant Transmission to space. He dies. Then comes back to life AGAIN.

  66. Marche March 8, 2009 at 1:43 pm -      #66

    “Goku would win. Instant Transmission to space. He dies. Then comes back to life AGAIN.”

    i hope your joking.

  67. L-W March 9, 2009 at 3:08 am -      #67

    I somehow doubt it.

  68. Matapiojo March 9, 2009 at 8:34 am -      #68

    “I somehow doubt it.”

    Lets see, who made………………

    *looks at name – KiraMasteroftheNote*

    Ah.

    Yea, I agree with L-W

  69. Vicious 117 March 9, 2009 at 8:02 pm -      #69

    REALLY!?!?!
    is this seriously what im hearing???
    Goku would completely destroy hulk in no time!!
    hes friggin GOKU!!!!
    hulk cant destroy planets, goku in SSJ3 will destroy earth and the moon in 2 seconds. If goku went super saiyan 4……… REALLY>???????
    noooooooooooo
    hulk will be no match! if superman can take Hulk, and GOku destroys superman,……..REALLY??????
    no way goku is just too powerful. Hulk is indestructible against human weapons like guns and tanks, and even nukes i think………..but a friggin spirt bomb is a Nuke times…………INFINITY!!!!!!!! no wayyyyy does hulk win….

    whats this about Marvel vs DBZ???? really?????/
    come on Fanboys dont let it go too much to your head to where you dont have any common sense anymore (no offense)

    god there are sooooooo many DBZ warriors that i can think of that will R@P3 any marvel character out there!!!! Krillin is the Hulks match, heck maybe even the Androids……..but no way does the Elite DBZ fighters lose to friggin marvel, when marvel characters cant even destroy a whole state, let alone a planet……
    Plus all the Super Saiyans in DBZ can destroy a planet with no effort if they were super saiyan 1……think about 2 or 3 or need i say 4…….

  70. Vicious 117 March 9, 2009 at 8:15 pm -      #70

    god ok ……..people act like Goku doesnt keep getting stronger as well.
    Just because the show ended doesnt mean anything. If goku went from a puny human lvl saiyan (lvl5 start of DB) to who the hell knows what (SS4 end of GT) all in 30-40 years………then what?????
    besides he was a kid and still had his power until he grew up again at the end of GT, which means he obviously pushed the limits of SS again!
    wow, if he keeps pushing it and getting stronger, and then he fuses with vegeta or some other infinite powered being in the universe, hulk really has no chance.. usually i have better supports but this is a battle that makes me wonder what the heck people are thinking when they say hulk wins. I just dont know if its even worth it because………… i mean………….. see,…….. im speechless to this battle. Hulk or even Marvel for that fact against a DBZ character….????????
    NOOOO wayyyyyyyyy
    this baffles me how anyone can see that hulk wins.

    “oh but hulk fought out of a black hole”
    friggin……. i bet if goku wanted to he could destroy hundreds of black holes, if not create them by being so damn powerful…
    If goku Tied with superman, and superman destroys hulk, not to mention Superman Holds BACK black holes………..really???????

  71. L-W March 9, 2009 at 8:51 pm -      #71

    Does anyone else want to field this? Just scanning a single sentence of his unfathomable stupidity was enough to cause a migraine.

  72. marche March 9, 2009 at 9:34 pm -      #72

    @ Vicious 117

    i hope you were joking,because you were wrong with your ENTIRE post.but ill let someone else explain it better.
    i just want to concentrate on this portion.

    “god there are sooooooo many DBZ warriors that i can think of that will R@P3 any marvel character out there!!!! Krillin is the Hulks match, heck maybe even the Androids……..but no way does the Elite DBZ fighters lose to friggin marvel, when marvel characters cant even destroy a whole state, let alone a planet……
    Plus all the Super Saiyans in DBZ can destroy a planet with no effort if they were super saiyan 1……think about 2 or 3 or need i say 4…….”

    really?because silver surfer would rape half of DBZ,galactus the other half.
    now about marvel not being able to destroy planets…..

    The surfer.
    img260.imageshack.us/img260/1787/annihilationsilversurfemi9.jpg
    img183.imageshack.us/img183/4227/annihilationsilversurfegj7.jpg
    img260.imageshack.us/img260/7697/annihilationsilversurfekt9.jpg

    Drax
    i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/drax/draxplanetbusting.jpg

    Galactus destroys planets on a regular basis.
    i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb260/DarkCrawler90/Galactus%20Respect%20Thread%20II%20Energy%20Manipulation/002-Decimatesworldsatwill-Thor162.jpg

    then their is Mad jim jaspers,whose weaker reality self messed up the universe so bad,it had to be destroyed.

    www.marvel.com/universe/Mad_Jim_Jaspers

    their are so many cosmic beings that would own DBZ single handedly.
    again,i sincerely hope you were joking.

    P.S the rest of your post mentions things i have shot down,no proof the goku got that strong,so we use the goku we know,unless you want to use a hulk thats been enraged for decades

    *wink*

  73. Skrunks March 9, 2009 at 10:07 pm -      #73

    Allow me to Illustrate for all those who don’t get it.

    s32.photobucket.com/albums/d10/Skrunks/?action=view¤t=gokuvshulk.jpg

  74. Who? March 10, 2009 at 1:06 am -      #74

    “Allow me to Illustrate for all those who don’t get it.”

    Nice.

  75. JoshMcFace March 14, 2009 at 8:25 am -      #75

    -Skrunks…that is brilliant. Lmao the hair just does it for me.

  76. Vicious 117 March 15, 2009 at 6:24 pm -      #76

    P.S the rest of your post mentions things i have shot down,no proof the goku got that strong,so we use the goku we know,unless you want to use a hulk thats been enraged for decades

    *wink*

    and how is there no proof goku got strong enough to go ssj3 or 4?
    when he and Vegeta fuse while SSJ4 they do get that strong???

    oh yay you showed me pics of battles where the area around them had destroyed earth in it….

    Bardock, The Legendary Super Saiyan, caused havoc in different galaxies and was unstoppable. Goku still beat him and he was only SSJ1…… so how would he not be able to destroy entire galaxies when hes SSJ4 combined with another SSJ4???

    really? when have you heard of hulk destroying a galaxy? i never even heard of hulk destroying a planet yet.. if its out there someone please send me a link to the exact proof of this….

    all goku needs is a spirit bomb, and if that doesnt do it just go SSJ4 and doa 10x Kamehameha…..

    -L-W say something and prove me wrong, instead of calling me stupid… we arent 10 year olds here…..

  77. Vicious 117 March 15, 2009 at 6:29 pm -      #77

    ok Galactus yes…… he would probably take goku, but not the hulk…… no way

  78. Spellca March 15, 2009 at 6:58 pm -      #78

    @Vicious

    The post you did before was nothing more then dragging on with nothing but half truths and faulty canon – Hulk beat Superman! Hulk was able to wrap the Man of Steel in mid-air and slam him into the ground. If you say Superman is on par with Goku (which I agree) then Hulk would be capable of killing Son Goku. Allow me to lay out what Hulk has done dented Captain America’s shield, ripped Wolverine in two (both involving the “unbreakable” metal which alludes my mind at this point), has been able to have reactive evolution avoid needing oxygen, has kept positive and negative ions seperate, destroyed the tectonic plates of a planet, regenerate from nearly anything and absorb radiation.

    Hulk would tear Goku to shreads. It would be a long fight but in the long run, Goku is still mortal and is not all powerful, despite the cries of fanboys, and can be killed, as even fanboys know. Hulk can just come back for more and that is what needs to be understood – if Wolverine can survive an explosion that burnt him down to a corpse then Hulk could and would survive a nuclear payload. If there is one thing capable of killing Goku easy it is Hulk. Grab the gi wearing saiyan, jump upwards to the outerlimits of the planet’s atmosphere and slam him into the ground – killing him and decimating the tectonic plates of the world. Then once that “Hulk Smash” is done…hmmm anyone else can line up.

  79. Spellca March 15, 2009 at 7:01 pm -      #79

    And on your “destroy a planet” challenge, look up “Planet Hulk” for a moment.

  80. Marche March 15, 2009 at 7:32 pm -      #80

    “nd how is there no proof goku got strong enough to go ssj3 or 4?
    when he and Vegeta fuse while SSJ4 they do get that strong???”

    im talking about being strong enough to create black holes,care to explain that
    “really? when have you heard of hulk destroying a galaxy? i never even heard of hulk destroying a planet yet.”

    good grief,mata posted a site that shows his feats of strength,i suggest you look at it(the same link to his nuke resistance.)

  81. L-W March 15, 2009 at 8:45 pm -      #81

    No one mentioned the Hulk destroying the Galaxy you fool (In fact you are the first to mention it – How embarrassing), he destroyed and ultimately absorbed a pocket universe during the Post-Onslaught era. Pocket universes are a type of compressed singularity or parallel universe. They are sometimes “attached” to a larger parent universe, making them literally pockets of space, but this is not a necessary feature and the name generally just refers to their small size. Their scale can be relative and subjective, however; some pocket universes are large enough to contain entire Galaxies, as in the case of the Hulk.

    This version had a pocket dimension linked to the Heroes Reborn universe (as verified by Dr. Strange and the Surfer) that allowed him to absorb an infinite well of energy to further propel his actions throughout the universe. At this point he unarguably became a true force of nature equal to the Celestials themselves (Which allowed him to defeat Galactus and his Heralds).

    So, do you have any actual proof to support your wild speculations, or is it nothing more than virulent conjecture as I suspect? Come back when you have a point sufficiently cogent for comparative debate.

    P.S. Why the overuse of ellipses? Do you have an issue regarding memory loss or a form of neurodegenerative that materializes and transpires even online?

  82. dbz March 16, 2009 at 6:32 am -      #82

    Actually goku is immortal if you have seen when he absorbs all the dragonballs. he could just wish hulk dead lol

  83. Matapiojo March 16, 2009 at 9:49 am -      #83

    “Actually goku is immortal if you have seen when he absorbs all the dragonballs. he could just wish hulk dead lol”

    Ugh, go away.

  84. JoshMcFace March 16, 2009 at 12:01 pm -      #84

    Ok not only has that guy got the Hulk wrong, but dbz too.
    Bardock was definitely not the legendary super saiyan. That was Broly. Bardock was killed by frieza’s finger for gawds sake.
    And seriously, don’t you think it’s slightly strange that everyone but you agrees on the Hulk’s planet/galaxy destroying capabilities? I would not make myself look an idiot by asking for proof…
    I’ve always liked dbz, but I still know that Goku could not beat someone with literally unlimited strength that grows with anger. Goku’s own strength grows only AFTER harsh battles, or after healing from near-death wounds.

  85. Vicious 117 March 16, 2009 at 7:03 pm -      #85

    ok i did make a mistake and said bardock…my bad.

    gokus strength comes from a desperate time of need….
    so if hulk keeps getting stronger so will goku.
    One thing i dont get is how can goku not beat hulk when he tied with superman, and superman can destroy hulk????
    …………………….
    someone please explain that to me.

    ha ha woah what the hell am i doing?
    Im arguing over who would win between goku and hulk, with nerds who have their Marvel tighty-whiteys up in a bunch. No offense, but i feel like a super nerd at the moment, A) for arguing over imaginary characters “who would win” and B) im still arguing. This was all fun and games to me, thats why i have been posting over and over, without regard for my English skills, but it doesnt matter to me so i dont really care, nor do i come close to caring. I remember i used to enjoy this site but god damn how many nerds out there spend all day fighting over “OH NO THE INCREDIBLE HULK WOULD DESTROY EVERYONE BECAUSE THE CREATORS OF HULK KEEP MAKING UP DUMB STUFF THAT MAKES HIM STUPIDLY STRONG!!!”

    ha ha so yeah im done with this site, i feel like i have been beaten by the “geek squad”
    Yes i admit, you all have great proof, and i can respectably accept defeat, fair and square, i had no proof. Everyone else had great proof, so its all good. WOW! talk about getting a life??!?!??

    Great website, keep it up admin

  86. L-W March 16, 2009 at 8:58 pm -      #86

    That was the biggest mess of a post I’ve seen in some time, just attempting to read that made me nauseous.

    Come back when you’ve:

    A) Grasped the English language.
    B) Stopped being such a whiny child.

  87. DX March 17, 2009 at 12:33 am -      #87

    Again…

    The Hulk wins.

    Im really don’t care about Goku.

  88. Spellca March 17, 2009 at 6:37 am -      #88

    @ Vicious

    I am so sorry that you are incapable of defending your points as well as can bearly grasp the English language. I will give you a free shot! If you can definitively (look a word you might not know) prove Hulk will lose to Son Goku then I will not post on this figth again.

  89. Spellca March 17, 2009 at 6:40 am -      #89

    “…CREATORS OF HULK KEEP MAKING UP DUMB STUFF THAT MAKES HIM STUPIDLY STRONG!!!”

    Please…either leave quietly or post something worthwhile. I honestly would enjoy it much better if you didn’t exit the site acting like an anime fanboy. “Used to enjoy the site” You have less then 10 posts? How much enjoying could you have done to this point?

    But anyway, Hulk has the endurance and physically strength to kill Son Goku.

    (Giving that so an intellegent person can continue the debate)

  90. Vicious 117 March 17, 2009 at 5:51 pm -      #90

    Yeah i should really prove myself to people who have no faces (aka internet)
    i used to be a constant poster to this site, but then i quit, came back, and then i realized ” why am i arguing over fantasy characters and getting so serious about it?”
    so you all can go on and give me the whole “learn english you idiot” speech, but all in all…….im going to be out doing something with my life, while you guys sit and argue over “HULK IS MY HERO BECAUSE HE’S IN MY DREAMS AND I SEE HIM WINNING OVER EVERYONE!”

    so which sounds better?
    not caring for how your english works on an online forum, or staying on that forum all my life because im probably 30+ years old, and i still have no life to call my own….

    Resolved: Anyone still posting about me being an “idiot” and stating proof of why that is , is still a nerd who probably lives with their mom and or girlfriend. If not the above 2, then instead of calling me the child, maybe some people should look in the mirror and see who is still spending their life arguing on the internet over who would win between a hulk person and marvel person.

    @ spellca

    i think an intelligent person would look at his posts and ask himself “what the hell made me think about even debating over some BS nerd crap like this??? where did my life go? Hmmmmmm maybe i should get it back before i end up like most people who post on here”

  91. Vicious 117 March 17, 2009 at 6:04 pm -      #91

    nd how is there no proof goku got strong enough to go ssj3 or 4?
    when he and Vegeta fuse while SSJ4 they do get that strong???”

    its AND, and you never start off a debate with AND. Also you did not capitalize the W in When.

    Bardock was killed by frieza’s finger for gawds sake.

    gawds is an english word for sure!!!! good job!!!

    @ Vicious

    I am so sorry that you are incapable of defending your points as well as can bearly grasp the English language. I will give you a free shot! If you can definitively (look a word you might not know) prove Hulk will lose to Son Goku then I will not post on this figth again.

    you mis-spelled BARELY and FIGHT …….OH LOOK A NERD MADE A MISTAKE!! THE WORLDS GOING TO END!!!

    Please…either leave quietly or post something worthwhile. I honestly would enjoy it much better if you didn’t exit the site acting like an anime fanboy. “Used to enjoy the site” You have less then 10 posts? How much enjoying could you have done to this point?

    But anyway, Hulk has the endurance and physically strength to kill Son Goku.

    (Giving that so an intellegent person can continue the debate)

    h aha intelligent people know how to spell INTELLIGENT!!

    anime fanboy?? im having fun, laughing as you guys constantly think you know me by , like you said, 10 posts. So you’ve read my posts on here and all of a sudden your reality is i am stupid and dont know english very well…..
    I see its your Intellegece right……….BTW im mocking you for spelling intellegent like that. One more time for the big guy……INTELLIGENT

  92. Vicious 117 March 17, 2009 at 6:18 pm -      #92

    BTw i think this is completely useless and a real outcome can never be decided. The main reason is this: the Marvel guys were little whiny kids who wanted someone to surpass Superman, and they make the hulk stronger and stronger, so much to the point that, if he has no limitations from a villian then how can he be an interesting character to follow?

    All you will see is awesome artwork and the big green guy getting more stronger by the comic book…What conflict does he face? Please dont pull “he has to face himself” out of the @$$ because every hero has to face their inner demons just as every man does.

    It is like a big group of LARPers and Hulk Fan Boys getting together and creating a character that is supposedly so strong that it is stupid strong. Yeah i admit he’s powerful, but eventually who will take this characters comics seriously when they know the writers will just make up some new crazy idea that makes no sense?

    P.S if you say “hulk person vs marvel person……HULK IS MARVEL” then i want you to know that i did that on purpose so that you will wake up and get a life.
    This reminds me of Carlos Mencia “if you are at home and you say “THAT wasnt real Klingon THEN YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE!”

  93. Spellca March 17, 2009 at 7:16 pm -      #93

    Wow. You spewed sh!t for three posts. If you are so much better then me then don’t associate on this site. Simple as that.

    You are the one defending Goku. If you were so much higher then me in that regard you would have left this site and not cared. But still…you wanted to prove something. Two, don’t call me a god-damn Trekkie (no offense to Trekkies)…I have more of a life to you most likely. I post on this forum when I am able to in my free time between school and my life – I don’t wake up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night worrying if Hulk will survive a Spirit Bomb.

    Just get a damn life and stop going after people or get the hell of this site.

  94. L-W March 17, 2009 at 7:27 pm -      #94

    Once again, nothing but a Childish diatribe built upon a foundation of whinging. You’ve lost the debate, so naturally you could only assume an aggressive and purely hostile stance in an attempt to berate others and draw attention from your own stupidity.

    An example of which is your willing participation in this thread until you were proven wrong, which ultimately led to some major neurological decline since your attitude from that point betrays your vulnerable position; you have nothing intelligent to add, nothing of importance to discuss, thus you must finally resort to the ecumenical cowards approach in the face of a failed debate:

    Claiming Hulk is overpowered, Marvel is unfair, we’re all nerds with no life and a distinct overabundance and misuse of capitalization. Why don’t you just complain about how your Parents never hugged you and paint this picture we’ve all seen coming?

    But I have a question (Not that I expect a reasonable response), in lieu of your Holier-Than-Thou attitude and both a noticeable claim of admission and resignation (“ha ha so yeah im done with this site”), why are you still here?

  95. marche March 17, 2009 at 7:59 pm -      #95

    “nd how is there no proof goku got strong enough to go ssj3 or 4?
    when he and Vegeta fuse while SSJ4 they do get that strong???”

    its AND, and you never start off a debate with AND. Also you did not capitalize the W in When.”
    wrong,you dont start a sentence with a conjuction(most of the time) ,however in this case it was a quote,i took it directly from your quote so you are the one that didnt capitalize it.

  96. Vicious 117 March 17, 2009 at 8:31 pm -      #96

    @cpt olimar superman is in fact many times stronger.

    ha ha good job with english…….

    Im really don’t care about Goku.

    and you…….

    He’s just seriously too strong. For most people.

    Good job for putting 2 sentence fragments together……

    not exactly,i can name 5 off the top of my head that would beat the hulk.
    he is just a beast.

    you too!

    and who would they be i think we just established that a guy who accidently blew the moon i half would get stomped

    ahh yes and you….

    Shall i continue finding all of your mistakes in grammar as you did mine???

    friggin hypocrits,,,,,,,see look i made the same mistake and misspelled Hypocrit ……
    ooops did it again

    in canon goku only goes to ssj4,and GT is barely canon.

    actually GT is Canon….

  97. Spellca March 17, 2009 at 8:36 pm -      #97

    Thank you L-W, I apologize for assaulting him back. But I do find it funny that he claims MArvel made Hulk overpower when Goku gains a new super ability every time a new saiyan comes to his doorstep. I just find his claims, ironic and stupid.

    But moving on, can Hulk kill Son Goku? I think that is the question. I think I already proved that but anyone else oppose?

  98. Vicious 117 March 17, 2009 at 8:40 pm -      #98

    @ -L-W

    i see where you are coming from but no you guys are wrong. I dont think i am better than anyone , and actually i was the one targeted….

    it all starts at post 71 and then on.

    No i am not trying to get attention nor am i defensive, i am merely stating my own 2 cents which is what people do on this site, correct?

    Why don’t you just complain about how your Parents never hugged you and paint this picture we’ve all seen coming?

    …….what do you call that post? you accuse me of knowing nothing about anything, yet you know nothing about me.

    Just get a damn life and stop going after people or get the hell of this site.

    like i said, i was not targeting anyone, i was targeted by -L-W who still uses very meaningful words in hopes that i feel stupid about myself. I just expressed how i felt about this battle and because people feel like Hulk would win, they targeted me just as many other DBZ fans in the whole battle (read every post and you will see that they target people, not me)

    n lieu of your Holier-Than-Thou attitude and both a noticeable claim of admission and resignation (”ha ha so yeah im done with this site”), why are you still here?

    I dont know, i guess i could use a good argument and take notes on what helps and doesnt help in a good debate……

  99. The One Sin March 17, 2009 at 8:42 pm -      #99

    “…CREATORS OF HULK KEEP MAKING UP DUMB STUFF THAT MAKES HIM STUPIDLY STRONG!!!”

    All caps will make you gain credibility. F#CK! That’s the trick isn’t it? Regarding your statement, the CREATORS(see what I did there?) make things up about the hulk because that’s how they make their living. The hulk is overpowered and no one is really denying that, but if the creators have conceived these abilities and put them forth through media than it is canon. If you can’t grasp that than I suggest topix.com as the place for you to rant and make yourself look pitiful.

    And most of us do have lives. I can’t speak for everyone because I don’t know them personally and neither do you. So how do you know if they have a life or not?

  100. Vicious 117 March 17, 2009 at 8:46 pm -      #100

    One more thing….
    you guys seem to have not understood that i admitted defeat on the case that i do not have any solid proof for goku. I also said i admit defeat at nerds, yes. What am i wrong for you guys being nerds? You do not think arguing over who will win all day is nerdy? It is your fault for taking it offensive, not mine for calling you what you are. I am a nerd for things, you are nerds for things, everyone is a nerd for something out there. That does not mean i am saying i am better than you. Just because i say i am wasting my life arguing , you all assume i mean to say i am superior but that is not the case. Case is you see and hear what you want, but it may not always be what i am saying.

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