Published on March 23, 2009, by admin - Posted in Mecha 25
While the fanboy in me wants to give this victory immediately to Prime, I’m not sure it would come to him. RahXephon presents attacks in way that I’m not sure Optimus could counter.
Who do you think would win?
I’m sorry, but the pic RahXephon just screams win with a capital “W”.
Feel free to argue this, fellas. Just my first instinct.
It screams inefficient design…it has a fricking head…HEADS ON ROBOTS ARE BAD!
“It screams inefficient design…it has a fricking head…HEADS ON ROBOTS ARE BAD!”
Agreed. I’ve often wondered why creators feel the need to always create humanoid robots. We have so many flaws that could be perfected; Our heads and necks are vulnerable, our pelvis position makes severing the legs easy, our ribcages can jab our organs during an accident, and we have to turn around to see what’s behind us.
Much in the same way that Children play with anatomically correct Dolls and Figures, Humans as a whole are obsessed with our own image, our own design and construction.
As a rule, the recognition of oneself has always been the first sign of sentience, in fact the first intelligence tests ever performed on Animals were intended to gauge whether or not an Animal could possibly recognize it’s own image. By imbuing a machine with our likeness (Whether or not it was practical or efficient) we imprint our belief in consciousness, sentience and the sense of soul onto what is essentially inanimate matter.
We are ensnared by the desire to create life, small Children will often pretend to rear Children and Families using Toys that although seem innocent, are mere paradigms of the entire process of creation.
It’s fascinating to read up on the subject of Robotics in regards to the human image and modern art, a recommended read for A.I. buffs such as myself.
wow L-W that was very……depressing.but i do think you have a point there and thats even more depressing.i always thought the reason for heads on robots was for a surveillance and comunicatiion hub but i guess they could just as easily stick that stuff in the chest,plus in my opinion its just awsome
“i always thought the reason for heads on robots was for a surveillance and comunicatiion hub but i guess they could just as easily stick that stuff in the chest”
They could stick that stuff anywhere. Why should “it” have a chest in the first place?
Even if they stuck to a humanoid design, if you would come face to face in contact with a robot in a combat scenario, and you had knowledge of the head being the location of all information gathering equipment, would you not just try to go for the head in order to effectively neutralize a superior combatant?
It just makes tactical sense to not have all those devices culstered together into such an obvious location.
There have been a few mech series to try and explain all that. In gundam wing the Oz foundation were building mobile suits based on the aesthetics of a humanoid combat machine, I guess tanks aren’t scary enough. So it could be as L-W said or it could be a psychological weapon built with the intent of being humanoid and not turning out that way based on our subconscious.
But I agree with mata and Kano, important components should be kept in a more well armored spot and out of the exposed head. Heck, just put large LED lights inside the head and the enemy won’t know the difference and will be thrown off when they destroy the head and it doesn’t make a difference.
That explains why the Star Wars Magnaguards can work with no heads
ah but thats the point.making the head a weakness like a humans is. i think the object is another quest for power see if the giant robot is humanoid with the same weakness’ humans have then the pilot can identify with the robot and start to see himself(or her)as part of it. come on you can imagine how godlike you would feel if you thought of yourself as an extension of a giant metal monster capable of leveling cities with that firepower at your finger tips.its an egomaniacs dream.still i like the mechwarrior robots better because their more realistic.
I would feel better if my giant god-like robot suit didn’t have all its essential optical or other electronic systems centralized in a single weakly armored head and would prefer if they where spaced through the internal structure, possibly granting 360 degree vision and enhanced protection.
And while I’m on that topic, giant legged robots are actually incredibly combat inefficient by design, thus I would rather be in command of some god-tank than some mistake of engineering.
i got to agree with you there but thats because im a nerd and i have actualy thought about it in detail but a normal person would probably think the way i said. and to get it out of the way i think having all that stuff in the head without at least backups all through out the body is a moronic idea.although i wouldnt want a god tank i would want some kind of super fighter jet myself
Ah, but humanoid robots are easier to relate to! So they make better video game/cartoon characters that way!
The most efficient machine we could ever reproduce would be a Sphere like A.I. construct that can directly correspond with others of it’s model, thus allowing individual constructs to gauge and manipulate their environment on the basis that each entity functions as a (Self-replicating?) swarm of unified intelligence.
Of course the technology for this is untold Eons away, but the most efficient shape for mass is a sphere.
Well I want SPIKES on this sphere, Spikes that shoot mind bullets and has the added ability to cloak itself and make smoothies.
Or maybe a Huge Beard robot, That maintains its power supply by collecting special oil on its beard. The Aim for this robot is collecting oil to Maintain its “Beard” and keep it bushy so you can unleash A DEVESTATING Beard missile that does something an- Ah screw that.
Okay Matapijio, Can you top my “Spiky ball of DOOM!?” Design?
self replicating do you mean a von neuman device?
about your ai sphere .your probably right, but thats not what im talking about right now im talking about…well just read olimar’s comment thats basically it.
waitaminute(no spaces to make it seem like i said it really fast)sphere of doom??that sounds like some kind of death star. and plus some sort of intelligent self-replicating sphere of doom is just asking for another terminator movie and i already want to kill someone for making a fourth if i have to live it im gonna go off.
Not self-replicating in the sense that it reproduces components (After all, how would a smooth sphere capable of only electromagnetic manipulation replicate itself?), but in reference to the original quote:
“each entity functions as a (Self-replicating?) swarm of unified intelligence.”
Whilst each Sphere has an individual A.I. construct (Thus it learns from it’s environment by itself) it replicates this experience so that when clustered together these Spheres act as a cohesive group that can repel damaged Spheres, create complex structures and reorganize on the basis of experience developed and collated as a collective. Essentially, whilst each construct is unique, it can determine the most efficient means of developing complex structures whilst working as a single cohesive element.
thanks L-W now i wont have nightmares about giant(?)spheres of doom taking over the world because we would still be in control of building them.then again i suppose if its a sphere of doom (thank you very much space marine now i cant stop saying it)it could just use its doomyness to enslave the human race.great now im gonna have nightmares.by the way can anybody suggest a cool super plane for me to fawn over? it must be fast, moronicly over armed,have stealth capabilities(well it doesnt really need that cause if it were me piloting it why would i need to hide?its a SUPER PLANE),and the ability to travel space.
Maybe a Super Duper doom plane that shoots Massive 500 caliber Diamond tipped gold plated bullets at a round of 1000 RPM and It is red because we all know
The Red Wunz Go Fasta!
It Can cloak itself By using a Mcguyver Limited edition cloaking device. A Giant DOOM Looking face The has “Teef” the Crunches up and down on the front of the plane that eats other planes and the tounge will be a Pit full of machine guns.
The Engine will be a suped up Kustom job by a few of the best Meks You can find.
It will go a top speed of WAAAGH!!!
It will have super dupa opa Machine guns on the side that will shoot anything that moves ( Yes, even your ex wife) And there you go.
You have a plane Of DOOM!-Ness!
DOOM-ness!!!! WOOT man that sounds badass how much is it? see i need a new super plane to wish i had because that douchebag blew up the SDF-1 macross (why whyyy *cries*).you might think its strange i liked that one because it didnt have stealth mode(as far as i know) but why would you need to hide when it turns into a giant robot with lasers.ill say one more time GIANT ROBOT WITH LASERS.
Oh and laser shooting robot?
A sphere would provide optimal armor as well. Besides one weak spot, the rest of its armor would act as sloped armor on a tank. But what are and where would be the weapons. By saying electromagnetic manipulation, do you mean a type of magnetic weapon. Also, they would be entirely A.I. if I understood you right, so
@ Space marine
that first one looks like some kind of cadillac plane classic looking. and the other pic is the coolest thing ever(besides punisher war zone)being a giant robot with a gatling gun and a chainsaw. thank you very much im going to try to buy those online
Rahxephon has this, easily.
As for the design, The mechs in rahxephon are based around the concept of:
Creatures came to earth with these machines and created us in thier image(hence the rahxephon looking similar to us, as well as rahxephon himself(this specific mecha from the series being the most powerful, and most humanoid). Being that we were created in thier image, it makes sense for the mecha to look similar to us(since they were created in their image as well.
Optimus Prime is a FIRETRUCK, screw that! Gundam owns.
Only one optimus was a fire truck and gundam’s have squishy people brains running them in squishy people bodies Prime wins when he squishes the pilot
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