I thought I’d start March with a brutal fight: Incredible Hulk against Kharn the Betrayer. This match would certainly be epic in nature with crushing blows delivered by both sides. With a battle like this, it might come down to endurance, and in that case, that might favor Kharn…
…or would it?
Who wins?
i think the hulk. im not sure wat kahn can do but hulk get increasingly more powerful as the fight goes on and can take almost any attack without getting hurt but can someone please tell me what kahn can do that would damage the hulk
There is no possible way to determine a victor of this match.
I have no doubt there will be many comments from newer users trying to sway this match one way or the other, but two of the most powerful entities in the omniverse of modern lore have met here.
Both combatants are capable of damaging each other, but neither can kill the other.
As has been shown time and time again, Kharn’s own bloodlust and the blessing of Khorne make him impossible to defeat by physical or psychic means.
Hulk has regenerative abilities beyond that of Wolverine or any other being on Earth.
He has survived internalization of solar heat, impacts that would shatter a planet, nuclear weapons and lasers have been shown to have no effect whatsoever on him, and he is immune to psychic control by most beings. (He actually managed to resist the powers of Onslaught himself) He has adaptive regeneration, meaning that he can adapt to defeat whatever threat struck him.
Both have incredible offensive abilities as well:
Kharn hold’s mighty gorechild, tipped with dragon’s teeth and blessed by Khorne, it can saw through all manner of armour and organic matter.
He holds a plasma pistol (one of the strongest imperial weapons) capable of annihilating even the most well armoured enemies.
Hulk holds literally limitless strength. He just keeps getting stronger the longer you fight him. He is more powerful than most immortals who have walked the Earth. He once held an entire mountain range aloft while bystanders escaped.
His lower body is strong enough to allow him to jump into Earth’s orbit or clear entire continents, allowing for incredibly powerful kicks. He wields weapons from the gladiatorial pits of the violent planet Sakaar, where he was hardened into a leader and warrior.
I see this battle raging for all eternity, Kharn driven by bloodlust and Hulk by anger, both empowered by these feelings. Neither would ever tire or ever fear the collateral damage caused by their battle. Earth would almost certainly be destroyed. Solar systems or even galaxies could be wiped from existence.
The longer the battle raged on, the more gamma radiation would blast from Hulk’s body, possibly adding matter to the universe at a high enough intensity.
This battle could be the end of all things.
Seeing what Matapiojo and L-W said about the Hulk in Goku vs The Hulk, I’m going to go with The Hulk on this one.
I uuummmmmmmm……
hhhmmmmmm……..
well………….
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This match has me speechless. I am sure I will muster some words later, but right now I will just take a moment to absorb this example of pure awesome.
I suggested this BTW. Do I get RECONZ?!
Yays, thanks for doing one my suggestions admin =D
I think Hulk wins this based on what L-W and Mata said before….
So I dont think Khorne would intervene becuz the Hulk isnt doing anything “cowardly” (magic)
“Kharn’s own bloodlust and the blessing of Khorne make him impossible to defeat by physical or psychic means.”
Thats great and all but I’m not sure Khorne ever thought that Kharn would ever go up against something that can match him move for move, any move, constanttly.
“Thats great and all but I’m not sure Khorne ever thought that Kharn would ever go up against something that can match him move for move, any move, constanttly.”
It’s still quite something to have a god on your side. Especially a god that will just resurrect you if you’re defeated.
“Especially a god that will just resurrect you if you’re defeated.”
Whats the point if the guy your fighting is twice as unstoppable when you come back?
“Whats the point if the guy your fighting is twice as unstoppable when you come back?”
Kharn would be more unstoppable than ever as well. That’s why I said this battle is futile for both sides as they’re so evenly matched. Neither one can hope to win, nor can they fear a loss. It’s almost a paradox of logic. It’s like they’re both immovable objects AND irresistible forces. I can only say, god help the bystanders.
This is a pesky one. The only way I can see this having a resolution is if Hulk banishes the Eye of Terror himself, because neither the Lords of Chaos or Kharn himself could keep the Hulk down.
“The only way I can see this having a resolution is if Hulk banishes the Eye of Terror himself”
hulk does some impossible stuff,i wouldnt be surprised if he clapped out the warp.
Could Khorne take Hulk as his new champion because he sees how badass he is?
“The only way I can see this having a resolution is if Hulk banishes the Eye of Terror himself”
I doubt the Hulk would be able to fight off the powers and taint of Chaos.
And do you think the Hulk could make his way through the Fortress of Khorne, The Maze of Tzeentch, The Palace of Slaanesh, and The Garden of Nurgle and then defeat thier respective Chaos Gods?
Although I have no doubt as to whether or not the Hulk could defeat the Chaos Gods, would it really be necessary? Just sealing the barrier between the Warp and the realm of the Materium seems just that bit more feasible to me.
Let us not forget that he once held the fabric of space and time itself, and clapped a universe out of existence. Closing the Eye of Terror should be a doddle.
Here is just a quick doodle I did during some down time at the Office of what I believe best represents this match.
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Here is the Hulk telling it like it is, readying himself to devour Kharn.
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Admittedly I screwed up Kharn’s armour, but I’ve never been too adept when depicting as many moving parts as that of the Space Marine power armour.
I could see him doing it. It would be difficult of course, but Hulk does have the capabilities.
I was about to ask if you think he wouldn’t be sucked in but then I remembered he onced climbed out of a black hole lol
“i think the hulk. im not sure wat kahn can do”
…KAHN!
nice art…..hulk even refer to kharne’s axe as a puny axe!
“hulk even refer to kharne’s axe as a puny axe!”
Maybe, but I am certain it would go more like “Axeman hurt Hulk, Hulk smash axeman!”
Given that Gorechild is what it is, the weapon can and would inflict massive injuries to the Hulk.
…not like he couldn’t regenerate the damage, but far from “puny”.
Hehe, I can see Khanr cutting off Hulks arms, only for Hulk to regrow thewm moments later.
Hey, admin I think Jugernautt vs Kharne would be good since both are protected by gods
I remember an issue of the Hulk (I think it may have been Incredible Hulk #388) in which Speedfreak, one of the faster Marvel villains, sliced Hulk along the stomach with a pair of Adamantium blades (The type used by Ultron) that cut directly through his midsection.
Just as the blades passed his mid-section, the wound had already healed behind them, and the Hulk’s molecular structure evolve, adapted and reconstituted itself so that before the blades could complete their intended path, they shattered within his mid-section.
There are definitely some more impressive examples of Hulk’s regenerative abilities (Such as when David Banner shielded his friends from a nuke by leaping on it), but this one stuck out in my mind.
anybody that says Kharn is officially gay. give me a break…you are retarded if you say Kharn wins.
They both can unleash a sh*t load of damage on eachother. I can’t say who would win. The populations of the planet they are fighting on would definitely be the losers.
i say hulk becuase his healing abilites make him near imortal whereaes i dont think kharn could reatach severed limbs hulk can
The only way I can see this fight ending (other then L-W’s suggestion of the Hulk sealing off/destroying the Eye of Terror) is Kharne losing Khorne’s favor due to repeated deaths at the hand of one enemy and the inability to causes any lasting damage to Hulk. This loss of favor would mean that Kharne will lose his ability to be reincarnated, ending the fight with a victory for the Hulk.
However, this is all just conjecture on my behalf so there’s no really evidence to clearly name one character as the victor.
“anybody that says Kharn is officially gay.”
Pick a better statement. You sound like a ten year old.
“They both can unleash a sh*t load of damage on eachother. I can’t say who would win. The populations of the planet they are fighting on would definitely be the losers.”
More like the population of the galaxy!!! If not several….
“More like the population of the galaxy!!! If not several….”
The intense outburst of gamma rays could be The End.
The end of you, of me, of everything bound by basic laws of reality.
Hulk would keep fighting until he was a god (a la Hal Jordan and Thanos’ state in Green Lantern VS Silver Surfer) Then murderise Khorne.
y would khorne be allowed to resurect kharn in this match that would make it 2 on one
“y would khorne be allowed to resurect kharn in this match that would make it 2 on one”
Khorne is not actively interveening in anything. His blessings upon Kharn are a simple afterthought. This is what you get for being the top butcherer of life in a universe filled with trillions upon trillions engagen in enless war. Kharn is simply above them all.
I’d have to go with the Hulk on this one. I would NOT wanna mess with someone who has launched themselves from the earth to the moon without the benefit of a space shuttle launch and punch The Watcher of all people in the FACE.
“I’d have to go with the Hulk on this one. I would NOT wanna mess with someone who has launched themselves from the earth to the moon without the benefit of a space shuttle launch and punch The Watcher of all people in the FACE.”
Well, (aside from the ridiculousness that punching Uatu was) the one to do those feats was Rulk. Note to mention that he jumped to the moon while DRAGGING one of the strongest beings in the planet (Thor) from an impossible to move object (Mjolnir).
Again, that was not Hulk. The Hulk did beat Rulk, though. So I get where you were going with that.
@Mata
Yeah, Rulk was pretty much Hulk, but he generated more gamma rays instead of getting stronger, so theoretically, those feats would be a small task for the true Hulk.
I am aware of the technicality of the statement. I was just clarifying the facts.
What exactly would happen if the Hulk “banishes” the eye of terror?
By banish, do you mean close it up???
toss some prozac down hulks mouth then when he turns in to banner cut his head off and before you pound the sarcasm button and say why didnt any other villian ever think of that its becuase all supervillian are unnecisserily complicated just look at mojo jojo
Could Khorne take Hulk as his new champion because he sees how badass he is?
No, Thats dumb…..Khorne chooses his champions for the bloodshed they cause for khorne and I doubt that the hulk will Obey anyone…. >.>
“toss some prozac down hulks mouth then when he turns in to banner cut his head off and before you pound the sarcasm button and say why didnt any other villian ever think of that its becuase all supervillian are unnecisserily complicated just look at mojo jojo”
My, you’re a perpetual migraine aren’t you?
The Hulks rage stems from a perpetual energy absorption/conversion reaction, an internal universe that provides an instant and infinite source of energy that eternally fuels his strength. His body can withstand the core of a black hole, survive the duress of the most durable materials in the entirety of existence and is immune to any disease, venom, toxin or drug ever known. His body was once described as being so hostile, that no toxin (No matter how resilient to heat and pressure) in the known universe could endure his bloodstream.
What do you propose a dose of Prozac is going to do to a being who once digested the Power Cosmic, survived and walked through a nuclear blast (To the face) unscathed and whose blood was used to wipe out AIDS.
So hands up who here is stupid enough to think that Prozac would have an effect on the Hulk? Apparently just you Kano.
sorry about that please ignore half of what i say my sister is using my name on this and i think hulk would win because i think he can heal faster and do more damage to his enemy
“Note to mention that he jumped to the moon while DRAGGING one of the strongest beings in the planet (Thor) from an impossible to move object (Mjolnir).”
i still cant get over that,its complete bs.falling with it was one thing,but moving it(with energy coming out) is something completely different.
if its any consolation,thor beats down rulk later on.
“i still cant get over that,its complete bs.”
S’all good, marche. S’all good. Rulk will get his now that he is facing the Professor in the current arc.
I am currently looking for individuals willing to help with a Respect Thread for Kharn, The Betrayer on the forums. If you are interested in providing factual information and reference for the betrayer, you can contribute to the discussion here:
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i say………jummmmm, yes is very very very very very difficult.
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The Hulk wins.
i was wondering wouldnt the match end if the hulk killed kharn
even if kharn gets resurrected he still lost…
im thinking that if its the first to put the other out of commision then hulk wins but if kharn can get rezzed then it goes to him
“i was wondering wouldnt the match end if the hulk killed kharn
even if kharn gets resurrected he still lost…”
I don’t think so. We’ve always gone by the rule that it isn’t over until a fighter is permanently destroyed.
“I don’t think so. We’ve always gone by the rule that it isn’t over until a fighter is permanently destroyed.”
Yes, this is one of our unspoken rules.
There is logic in what cyborg suggests, but BankGambling is not a corner that shows leniency or favors circumstancial victory. Play for ultimate wins, or go home!
put it this way a bloodthirster the favored daemons of khorne could contest with hulk and kharn is way stronger than a bloodthirster so hulk would eventually start to lose hulk isnt invincable if blow dart could peirce his skin watch hulk vs wolverine the movie im sure a chain axe with dragon teeth for blades and possesed by a daemon could hack his arms and legs off at least
@sangheli_special_ops_elite
Hulk vs Wolverine is a non-canon film. Hulk cannot be stopped with such weapons in modern continuity. If you were to slice his limbs off, they’d grow back in less than a second.
where did you hear that from hulk is bullet proof but i never heard of him replacing limbs like he’s lobo or somthing
even so hulk would lose limbs and keep growing them back but kharn would be swinging so fast hulk couldn’t react fast enough hit back. This constant blood shed would distract khorn from even the most bloodiest battles and khorn would watch with such intent he would favor kharn and hulk and maybe even gift hulk since kharn is already khorns current favorite and won’t risk making him a spawn kharn may end up fighting the most dangerous spawn of chaos since foulspawn himself in which case the fight would last until khorn stepped in and personally congradulated hulk and kharn for making khorn so powerful with emotions of rage and blood shed
Have you ever heard of the humble comma? Or his older brother, the full stop?
Reading one of your posts is nothing more than a trial in nausea.
Eventually the Hulk would have to become human for some time, That is when Kharn would get him. This would be a match of epic proportions, But gut instinct tells me Kharn gets this one.
“Eventually the Hulk would have to become human for some time”
No he doesn’t.
@ LW — “Eventually the Hulk would have to become human for some time”
No he doesn’t.”
Actually LW, that’s not entirely true. It depends on which incarnation of the Hulk this is Hulk can and does grow tired, especially if this is the Prof Hulk. Also you mentioned that:
“His body can withstand the core of a black hole, survive the duress of the most durable materials in the entirety of existence and is immune to any disease, venom, toxin or drug ever known. His body was once described as being so hostile, that no toxin (No matter how resilient to heat and pressure) in the known universe could endure his bloodstream.”
#1 – Hulk has never endured a black-hole. It’s a common misconception. You’re probably referring to the Defenders series where Hulk saves Strange, Namor, and SS from being sucked into what looked like a Black-hole. It was a “singularity” that had felt like swimming through water. If you’re aware of an issue where Hulk does survive a blackhole, I’d like to hear about it, as I have yet to see this in action.
#2 – Hulk has not only been poisoned on numerous occasions, but has also been knocked out by mere gas on numerous occasions as well. If you’d like issue numbers on the stories, I’d be happy to provide. . So your claim that no poison known could survive his bloodstream is quite simply not true.
Sorry, Hulk is my favorite character by far, but I don’t want to see him represented either. I agree with you of course that Prozac would be like Gatorade to Hulk. Something a bit more powerful would certainly be needed.
“i never heard of him replacing limbs like he’s lobo or somthing ”
He does it quite often.
Considering most modern incarnations of the Hulk have total control over the Banner persona, it hardly matters anymore.
LW – I would think accuracy matters to you, as you love proving others wrong and beating otehrs over the head with facts and demanding others keep their facts straight. Shouldn’t the same apply to you? . Well, in this case you are the one who is wrong, and here is teh evidence for any to look it up to verify:
Issue number 347 – Hulk Poisoned
Issue #367 – Hulk poisoned (The first sentence of the issue starts out with “Hulk sits unmoving in his chair – Poisoned.” The Leader and Jailbird thought the Hulk had died from the poisoning.
I have a few others and direct you to as well. Hulk can and has been adversely affected by poison, gas, and more. In fact, as stupid as the premise sounds, isn’t that how Batman knocked out the Hulk in that terrible crossover? Gas capsule, and a kick to the solar plexus to force him to breethe it in.
#364 V2 – Sorry, was looking at the wrong comic – #364 V2 is where it begins, and I see it continues in 367 as well. Extends beyond that as well in fact.
And now I know that.
See what happens when you inform others of your intentions or demands and don’t just assume that they are going to respond in kind due to circumstantial events? Magic ain’t it? Several million years of evolution and we’re capable of communicating our desires to one another rather than assuming that our demands are going to be met despite passive intentions?
Who’s learning about the basic comprehensions of intra-human communications? You are! Yes, you are! Who’s a good little boy…
*Rambles into incoherent baby gibberish*
Haha – It’s funny to see LW act like this. Hey, waiting for you on the Hulk GOKU thread. You have yet to back up your statements over there LW. Come on now.
Looks like someone just got owned.
Getting back to the actual purpose of this thread….
If this match-up were to happen, I got one word.
DRAW
Chaos powered madman who can’t die, and has a axe that can chew through anything VS. A very pissed off green muscle man… who can’t be beat and heal rapidly.
It who go on forever until Kharn gets pissed off and decides to leave and find something he can kill for his god.
I still like the idea of hulk gaining the favor of khorne as a matter of fact he may be elivated to daemon prince status just for being so filled with anger which is the one thing khorne gains power from
hey yeah if they were too fight wouldnt the favor of the chaos gods move to the hulk just because he is basically pure rage
@Sangheli & Cyborg: No, because Hulk does not worship Khorne – those gifts can only be bestowed upon worshipers lest they be used against the god.
Besides, I agree with Kenny to some degree – Kharn isn’t stupid for all his betrayal and blood lust. Kharn would forfeit… after a few thousand years or so xD
although he doesnt worship khorne maybe eventually after all of the resurrections and so on he will be so strong that khorne wil worship him BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!……….evil…
kharn would forfeit out of pain because it would really take a toll on you getting repeatedly torn apart limb from limb
Well, Now that the rules say latest incarnations, Hulk is savage banner? If so, Kharn is more likely to win.
Nope kahrn loses.
Isn’t this whole fight dependant on Hulk strenght at the start of the fight? Hulk, at his base level, will not be able to bring down Kharn. On the other hand, when his energy increases, he’ll crush Kharn with a single punch, as he’s got no upper power limit whatsoever.
BUT Gorechild rips out souls, and this equals sending them completely unprotected into the Warp, as far as i see it? Inside the warp, with no body, Hulks power is irrelevant, some big nasty daemon, or a god, will eat him anyway. And when your soul is EATEN, you’re effectively very very dead, no matter if you have shown being able to work without a soul for a while.
Is this assumption correct, or am i missing something big time here?
You may have something there.
It seems logical to me at least. Nothing in 40K seem to have a chance of continuing with the soul devoured, so i’d guess Hulk would struggle a bit when he is eaten, leaving a empty body behind.
well I don’t know anything about recent incarnations of Hulk, but when Kharne sees a puny Bruce Banner in front of him, he probably wouldn’t even waste time with Gorechild and just shoot him with his sidearm. Bruce would then get angry enough to Hulk out while he’s burning from plasma scoring.
well I don’t know anything about recent incarnations of Hulk, but when Kharn sees a puny Bruce Banner in front of him, he probably wouldn’t even waste time with Gorechild and just shoot him with his sidearm. Bruce would then get angry enough to Hulk out while he’s burning from plasma scoring.
“And when your soul is EATEN, you’re effectively very very dead, no matter if you have shown being able to work without a soul for a while.”
This doesn’t sound right. If your able to fight without your soul, that means that your body can continue functioning without it all together. Why does if the soul is eaten if it doesn’t even have to be present?
@people talking about hulks soul
im pretty sure that hulk doesnt have a soul, banner does but he has been removed from the hulk before and hulk just went on rampaging
I don’t know if its canon but when Bruce was removed from the Hulk all that was left was the hulk and he was unstoppable until they put Banner back so if that’s canon Kharne would only make thing worse for himself. Besides Kharnes weapon doesn’t absorb souls anyways its just a really powerful chain axe.
@midnight
i think on some other posts people have said that it flays souls or something like that.
anyway if they remove banners soul then you have an unrestrained hulk that keeps getting angrier that kharn keeps getting ressurected then he gets so pissed off he jumps into the 40k universe and punches khorne in the head
You guys keep talking about how Banner was removed from hulk like “hulk” is some exo-suit for banner, you use “remove” so lightly. If Gorechild flays and eats at the soul then “hulk” would meet the same fate as banner. Although I don’t understand how it is not one entity. But “hulk” can’t be souless, otherwise if banner was “removed” like you say then logistically hulk would just drop dead. You got to remember hulk is not some super hero suit or symbiote, if you kill the soul the very essence of Banner/hulk then they die, none of this silly “unrestrained hulk” stuff
“i think the hulk. im not sure wat kahn can do”
…KAHN!”
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I think that Kharn would still take the hulk.
Granted, the Hulk is awesome, and gets more powerful the angrier he gets, his greatest potential is only unlocked when he has some mass emotional source to fuel his fury.
The Betrayer would kill him swiftly, because he brings all of his immediate strength to the table, which is, while his physical power is comparable to hulk’s, he also possesses ten thousand years of constant warfare on battlefields so horrible you can scarcely perceive, and has not perished since the Storming of the Gates of Terra, when while he stood atop a pile of corpses of the Lapdogs of the False emperor, a wall roughly 75 stories high and made concrete and steel landed on him.
@Emprah It’d be a good fight but Hulk would not go down so easily like that. He keeps fighting him like that, he will make him more pissed off. True, his power starts out as a certain limit but as long as he keeps fighting Hulk like that, he will piss him off more and his strength increases more dramatically than you think. Kharn is bad-ass, no doubt but I wouldn’t want to underestimate the Hulk.
@Grand Papa Typhus The “unrestrained Hulk” is not silly. Yes, it is true that Hulk is not souless if he’s separated from Banner but Banner and Hulk are one in the same being and without Banner in Hulk’s conscience, he’d be all rage.
I think Hulk wins this one because in the WWH Comic, Hulk became more overpowered strong and became in to World Braker Hulk, that he owmust sunked North America, for only 3 steps of him, and if I remember correctrly WWH/Worlrd Braker Hulk, whit one punch he destroy half of the marvel world:
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By the way the mader hulk gets, the stronger hulk gets.
Hulk for the FP award.
So how is it Gorechild is going to not only pierce the flesh of the Hulk but also steal the soul of a still living entity–something Gorechild has never been shown to do– in order to ensure a swift victory?
Khorn will shit bricks and watch the fight intently
Here are some random scans I found for The Indestructible Hulk.
The Indestructible Hulk tanks a blast that can re-melt adamantium:
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Hulk Speed blitzes a robot:
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Hulk’s destructive power:
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Kharn doesn’t stand a chance in hell against the current Hulk.
I really don’t see any advantages Kharn has over Hulk
Like the adamantium this robot, Kharn gets torn in two:
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Hulk smash puny Kharn!
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