What If…Darth Vader, Count Dooku & Saruman joined the Imperium?

What If Darth Vader, Saruman and Count Dooku joined the Imperium?

Who would become the strongest?
Would the Chaos Gods choose new champions?
Would this swing the balance of power?
What other implications would this have?

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24 Comments on "What If…Darth Vader, Count Dooku & Saruman joined the Imperium?"

  1. hellatus February 26, 2009 at 7:47 am -      #1

    1st post :D vader on this 1 since he has the force and he is the one who killed dookoo and he is the chosen one

  2. Locutus February 26, 2009 at 8:57 am -      #2

    I highly doubt the balance of power in the galaxy would be affected. It would be like the Imperium gaining 3 medium level psykers with some different abilities. Nothing much would change.

  3. Rob (Expertimp) February 26, 2009 at 9:06 am -      #3

    nice matchup. I would say its a tough battle.. But I would say Varder could beat Dooku. and I would see them tag teaming it up on Saruman to defeat him and then Varder could take out Dooku.

    Winner: Darth Varder

  4. Jwlynas February 26, 2009 at 9:13 am -      #4

    Saruman – High level Psyker… and thats about it. Might eventually fall to Tzeentch in his quest for power and to improve his magical abilties above that of Gandalf. All in all though, not thta much of an impact is likely. His knowledge of tech would be laughable in the context.

    “I have created this machine, able to hurl rocks great distances”
    “Uhuh…And why not just use the Battlecannon. able to hurl exploding shells a greater distance, more accurately and with more impact?”
    “…I also have this Palantir, able to contact other palantirs across great distances”
    “…So, a commlink then, but less useful?”

    Darth Vader – Mid to high level psyker, if we presume the force is a psyker abilty. basically though he’d just be a relatively powerful Librarian. His willpower against temptation seems quite low, and again tzeentch seems the most likely to prey on that weakness.

    Count Dooku – I know little about him, so I’ll let someone else ponder his effectiveness

  5. JoshMcFace February 26, 2009 at 12:46 pm -      #5

    Saruman is technically immortal. He would keep coming back to annoy everyone.

  6. Thepocalypse February 26, 2009 at 3:27 pm -      #6

    I’d have to stop putting off buying some 40k.

  7. Thepocalypse February 26, 2009 at 3:28 pm -      #7

    “nice matchup. I would say its a tough battle.. But I would say Varder could beat Dooku. and I would see them tag teaming it up on Saruman to defeat him and then Varder could take out Dooku.

    Winner: Darth Varder”

    This is a what if scenario, not group combat. He said “what if they joined the imperium” as in the Imperium of Man from Warhammer 40000. Varder lol.

  8. Thepocalypse February 26, 2009 at 3:38 pm -      #8

    “I highly doubt the balance of power in the galaxy would be affected. It would be like the Imperium gaining 3 medium level psykers with some different abilities. Nothing much would change.”
    Saruman descended from the heavens as an Istari, he has the power to stand against Sauron himself. As seen with Gandalf (who was a lesser wizard) he can resurrect himself (or is saved by the Malar). He could do battle with many 40k characters and triumph.
    While Dooku really isn’t much, Vader could do an immense amount of damage and would be a great enforcer for the Imperium.

  9. The One Sin February 26, 2009 at 4:41 pm -      #9

    Well, Darth vader is pretty much a lesser version of marneus calgar, being rebuilt and all.

    I don’t know, in a civilization numbering in the ball park of 500 trillion, I don’t think these three would make much difference, except for Saruman maybe, I could see him as some sort of adviser to the god emperor.

  10. Locutus February 26, 2009 at 6:00 pm -      #10

    “As seen with Gandalf (who was a lesser wizard) he can resurrect himself (or is saved by the Malar).”

    He was saved. He did not ressurrect himself.

    “Vader could do an immense amount of damage and would be a great enforcer for the Imperium.”

    Maybe. He still wouldn’t be considered a high level Psyker though. Again, it wouldn’t change much for the Imperium.

  11. Locutus February 27, 2009 at 2:52 am -      #11

    “except for Saruman maybe, I could see him as some sort of adviser to the god emperor”

    I don’t think he would go that far up. He would probably serve in the Inqusition.

  12. JoshMcFace February 27, 2009 at 11:23 am -      #12

    Gandalf was returned to his mortal body, his spirit would have lived on either way. And is Saruman was still able to contact Sauron he would have one VERY powerful advisor.

  13. =[BF]=JimmieRox February 27, 2009 at 2:09 pm -      #13

    No major change would occur. In the end they would all fall or join the traitorous legions of Chaos.

  14. L-W February 28, 2009 at 4:33 am -      #14

    All three would be martyrs for the Golden Throne, part of the Emperors daily diet of Psyker sacrifice.

  15. Space marine March 7, 2009 at 7:41 am -      #15

    All three would be martyrs for the Golden Throne, part of the Emperors daily diet of Psyker sacrifice.

    Actually yes, Except dooku, He isn’t a psyker.

  16. Vavle March 15, 2009 at 6:53 pm -      #16

    Dark Vader and Dooku would become crapy IG officers. Nothing special here.

  17. L-W March 15, 2009 at 8:54 pm -      #17

    “Actually yes, Except dooku, He isn’t a psyker.”

    True, he would be burned alive as a Heretic.

  18. guns_talk_louder April 28, 2009 at 8:45 pm -      #18

    how is he a heretic? he’s not evil enough to be chaos marine or strong enough to be a space marine so he would be a Imperial guard psyker so would vader they have the same powers so they would both go topsyker school

    WHITNSS YOUR DOOOOOOOOOOOOMA LOL

  19. Whacko December 7, 2009 at 5:53 pm -      #19

    No real impact at all. Saruman’s powers are, like the rest of LOTR, not purely destructive, and he’s too weak to make a dent in any other way too.

    Vader and Dooku are weak Grey Knights unfit for GK work, and wouldn’t have too much to offer apart from being a help in mose close combats.

    Still, all of them have “fallen” to another power before. They would be Tzeentch food in no time.

  20. shaun182 December 7, 2009 at 6:02 pm -      #20

    i think the first thing on arrival would be dooku and saruman trying to get over the fact they look identical.

  21. Whacko December 7, 2009 at 6:24 pm -      #21

    Or the fact that they are the same guy, to be exact. Scary stuff.

  22. shaun182 December 7, 2009 at 6:28 pm -      #22

    do you think they will do the whole human mirror bit, where one raises his hand whilst the other does the same, and this would be freaking vader out, until he cant stand it any more and lops one of their heads off.

  23. Whacko December 7, 2009 at 6:32 pm -      #23

    Yeah, that would be awesum. Or instead, he attacks, and they counter attack at the same time. Vader hits and takes out both, while both of them land a blow in his face. Epic.

  24. Paladino November 28, 2010 at 5:33 pm -      #24

    Inquisitor Vader. Find you Lack in faith……
    Saruman will be watched by Ordo Hereticus…..
    Count Dooku will become the Next Jaq Draco…..

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