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  1. Galen Marek
    Feb 11 - 2:05 am

    Well Boba Fett definatly has better equipment, and I think if he took this fight from a medium to long range fight he would definatly destroy samus. But if it was a close range fight I think Samus would win, but even if it starts close range Boba always has the jet pack to get him out of that situation.

  2. Darkforce
    Feb 11 - 2:34 am

    WOW i agree this is one of the most well match fights i have come across, but i tooo have to go with samus aran.

    she has more wepons and beter amor. thats not to say boba fetts isnt amzing, it is made of beskar or mandilorian iron as it is more often called which can take a huge amount of punishment before giving out. and he is a walking gun locker.

    on the ground samus will win. but if the fight becomes a ship tto ship battle boba takes the edge. in the other secton of this site it pits slave 1 (boba’s ship) vs samuses gunship.

    the fact seem to show that slave 1 would kill and win. so if she can get to the planet she will win. 9 samus is good at crash landings)

  3. Locutus
    Feb 11 - 3:04 am

    Win for Samus. She would completely overwhelm Fett.

  4. hellatus
    Feb 11 - 5:17 am

    samus wins since mc is better than boba and samus is better than mc

    just freez boba then shoot him till death baba aint that fast

  5. Thepocalypse
    Feb 11 - 6:20 am

    Hm. I suppose it depends on whether or not ion cannons can disable Varia armour. If they can, Fett could retreat to Slave I and fire the ions from afar, but he still runs the risk of being shot down by Samus’ hunter class gunship, and trust me, it is more powerful than it looks. In a ground confrontation, Samus simply has a superior arsenal of weaponry, especially if you allow her to use the weaponry from Halo CE and UT3 (which she appeared in through mods). She has dark and light beams, and the omega blast would destroy Fett instantly (I know it isn’t instant kill in Smash Bros, but that’s for gameplay. A laser that large and intense would fry you.)

  6. Tim
    Feb 11 - 10:13 am

    Samus should win this fight, her armor and weapons are far superior to Boba Fett’s and what she’s done is far more impressive.

  7. Matapiojo
    Feb 11 - 11:15 am

    “samus wins since mc is better than boba and samus is better than mc”

    You sir are a plague. Mc has been beaten by both these oponents.

    “Samus should win this fight, her armor and weapons are far superior to Boba Fett’s and what she’s done is far more impressive.”

    Superior armor, maybe. Superior weapons, no. More impressive feats, arguable.

    “Hm. I suppose it depends on whether or not ion cannons can disable Varia armour. If they can, Fett could retreat to Slave I and fire the ions from afar, but he still runs the risk of being shot down by Samus’ hunter class gunship, and trust me, it is more powerful than it looks. In a ground confrontation, Samus simply has a superior arsenal of weaponry, especially if you allow her to use the weaponry from Halo CE and UT3 (which she appeared in through mods). She has dark and light beams, and the omega blast would destroy Fett instantly (I know it isn’t instant kill in Smash Bros, but that’s for gameplay. A laser that large and intense would fry you.)”

    Slave-1 is a FAR superior vessel to Samus’ Gunship. If the fight goes there, Fett wins it easy.

    MOD arsenals are completely out of the question. You wanna do a search of how many MODs include Boba Fett?

    Fett’s own weapons would not only equal, but surpass Samus’ own. Samus has some pretty fancy upgrades, but they do not compare to Fett’s disintegrator gun. If the match is not to collect each other’s bounty, Fett would be quick and lethal.

    As oposed to Galen Marek’s statement, even at close range Boba is better equipped to deal with his oponent. Samus better keep this fight on the move if she hopes to survive. And that is still a big IF.

  8. JoshMcFace
    Feb 11 - 2:33 pm

    Perhaps Samus’ screw attack and speed booster would come in handy if Fett had her outmatched with weapons, although her variety of suits, beams, missiles, bombs , abilities and combo weapons should not be underestimated. I know little about Fett however, could someone list his main equipment, as it doesn’t give much away on the wiki.

  9. Cpt Olimar
    Feb 11 - 3:28 pm

    I have a question, If samus shoots a super missile at boba and it hits, how many of his blaster weapons would be destroyed. I mean, are his actual weapons that heavily armored? Samus’s arm cannon is essentially part of her suit, but are boba’s just typical blaster material? If this is the case, then all of his weapons are very vulnerable (something she would know by scanning him).

  10. Thepocalypse
    Feb 11 - 3:46 pm

    No, Samus could eliminate Slave I from the ground. It’s called a darkburst, look it up. The omega beam is 10x any weapon Fett has, and a hunter-class could stand it’s ground against Slave I anytime. Also, Samus could attack from the ground while Adam controls her ship.

  11. Locutus
    Feb 11 - 4:52 pm

    When did this battle include their ships? I thought it was just Samus vs Fett. Their ships would be in the Mecha battle category.
    Anyways, Samus’ weaponry is far superior to Fett’s mere blasters and disintegrator. How is Fett going to fight someone that can move at supersonic speeds? How is Fett going to survive groups of heat seaking missiles or charged beams of plasma that would engulf most of his body? I can’t see Fett winning this battle.

  12. Cpt Olimar
    Feb 11 - 5:52 pm

    samus is NOT going to destroy the Slave-1 anytime soon. This isn’t some space pirate transport ship which is lightly armored and flies right next to you, this is a highly advanced piece of equipment which can take a crap-load of punishment.

    However…. Samus MAY be able to destroy his remote control for it given that Boba brings it into use, but she CANNOT touch his ship.

  13. Thepocalypse
    Feb 11 - 6:01 pm

    “When did this battle include their ships?”
    It includes their ships because they’re equipment used by them constantly.

  14. The Chosen One
    Feb 11 - 7:02 pm

    I think Boba can own Samus but he would have to run Samus Over with Slave 1 to do it

  15. Who?
    Feb 11 - 7:21 pm

    “When did this battle include their ships? I thought it was just Samus vs Fett.”

    Since they both can command their ships from a far, I would consider them to be a part of their arsenal.

    “No, Samus could eliminate Slave I from the ground. It’s called a darkburst, look it up. The omega beam is 10x any weapon Fett has, and a hunter-class could stand it’s ground against Slave I anytime. Also, Samus could attack from the ground while Adam controls her ship.”

    The darkburst is pretty powerful, but is slow and meant for infantry, not ships. Thats why it’s not all that effective against pirate skiffs or frigates. I don’t recall any omega beam in the Metroid series. Do you mean the hyper beam? if so, that is not a constant weapon in Samus’s arsenal. Most of the other stuff you said is made up and or has been thwarted by Matapiojo. in the end, Samus’s own suit is her downfall. It relies on one system that controls weapons, HUD, etc. which could most likley be eliminated by Fett’s portable ion cannon. To me, Samus has a better chance in her zero suit because of this reason. But I think they shouldn’t fight. They should either form the most badass bounty hunter team of all time, or get down and make the ultimate bounty hunter, little Sam Fett.

    Also Matapiojo, have you heard about the first Star Wars horror story titled Death Troopers yet? if not, look it up, should be really cool.

  16. Galen Marek
    Feb 11 - 7:36 pm

    Well first off if Samus’s beams consist of plasma, she has no chance of even phasing fett if she fires them at him. He could easily just walk straight through them without so much as even sweating from the heat. Plasma would just hit his armor and bounce off harmlessly.

  17. Scenario
    Feb 11 - 8:22 pm

    Fist off, there is no Omega beam. It is called the Omega Cannon, and it’s comparable to a nuke. Second, the Plasma beam is the only weapon that uses plasma. The Power beam is supposedly a kinetic energy weapon, Wave beam is energy waves that pass through walls, and I don’t know what the Ice beam is. Possibly supercooled plasma, which now defeats my previous point. Oh well, there are still the Light, Dark, Annihilator, Nova, Spazer, and Hyper beams…

    And then:
    Volt Driver: Homing electricity
    Battlehammer: Rapid fire micronuke
    Magmaul: Superheated magma
    Judicator: Supercooled plasma
    Imperialist: Sniping laser
    Shock coil: High density neutrino’s

    I like listing things.

  18. Baron Somebody
    Feb 11 - 9:02 pm

    If Samus did the Final Smash thing she could pwn him…but I still think Samus’s weapons do more damage

  19. Who?
    Feb 11 - 11:33 pm

    Ok, so I looked up the omega cannon and found out that it that it is one of the most powerful weapons in the game (the only reason I diddn’t know about it is that I have never played hunters.) However, It vanishes so Samus obviously can’t use it. If she did somehow have it, there’s no doubt in my mind she could defeat Fett if he stood still long enough. But then again, Fett would be zooming around the battlefield too quickly to be hit directly and his filters would probaly keep him pretty safe from the radioactivity. Half of the other weapons you mentioned aren’t applyed with Samus, but with the other hunters. The other stuff Scenario mentioned like the light and dark beams are valid with Samus, but it really depends on what time period this takes place. Echos period, Super Metroid, etc. Fett is usually in top shape carrying all his weapons, too many to count at once, but if Samus fought the half-insane Fett during the Dark Empire series, then she probaly wouldn’t have much trouble. But with all trouble Samus gets from those light creatures that disrupt her visors, Fett’s ion cannon could easily knock out her systems, if not temporaly. And he probaly wouldn’t need it with his Sacros beam ( I don’t care if it’s from the Holiday Special, that thing obliterated an Imperial patrol craft with a single shot!). As I said, she would have a better chance in her Zero suit. Also Baron, as cool as her final smash is, i’ve seen Mario survive it. Would you bet the Fett-Man could too?

  20. Thepocalypse
    Feb 12 - 6:38 am

    I’m talking about the Final Smash, who.

  21. Thepocalypse
    Feb 12 - 6:42 am

    Samus goes light speed and dashes through Slave I, the overrated hunk of metal gets blown sky high. Fett stands NO chance against her. She has superior weapons, she’s faster, and she’s got metroid DNA. He’s royally screwed.

  22. Scenario
    Feb 12 - 8:20 am

    The weapons I mentioned do belong to the other hunters, but Samus steals them for her own use.

    Also, Fett can use a weapon from a holiday special but Samus can’t use one from a canon game?

  23. Matapiojo
    Feb 12 - 8:22 am

    Ships are included in this particular fight because both combatants have remote access to their crafts. They are as integral to them as their other items.

  24. Baron Somebody
    Feb 12 - 9:08 am

    Well Samus’s weapons are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more powerful, Boba’s just shoot lasers

  25. Matapiojo
    Feb 12 - 11:05 am

    “Boba’s just shoot lasers”

    Simply incorrect, and am far too tired to repeat all of Fett’s arsenal stats. Be bothered to research at the very least within this site before looking like an absolute baboon. Other fights involving SW’s top bounty hunter talk about his arsenal extensively.

    “Also Matapiojo, have you heard about the first Star Wars horror story titled Death Troopers yet? if not, look it up, should be really cool.”

    I have not. I will indeed look it up.

    “Samus goes light speed and dashes through Slave I, the overrated hunk of metal gets blown sky high. Fett stands NO chance against her.”

    Arguing this completely retarded statement would actually make ME look stupid. Suffice to say that you are simply wrong.

    Disagree? Feel free to prove otherwise here:
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    “Also, Fett can use a weapon from a holiday special but Samus can’t use one from a canon game?”

    Those weapons you listed are indeed valid since they are part of her current canon, but the Final Smash is just a gimmick for an entirely different game. That one I would not consider to be part of her arsenal.

    Samus indeed has a vast arsenal, and I do mean vast. One that dwarfs Fett’s in quantity. However, it does NOT equal quality.

    Fett has one MAJOR advantage to Samus, and that is that his weapons are not limited to ONE delivery system.

    What do I mean by this?

    Most of Samus’ weapons have to be mimicked by the suit’s cannon…

    One at a time.

    This is a limit Fett does not have as he has modified his armor to unleash its entire arsenal in any and all combinations he chooses to. Samus will be hard pressed to survive this barrage and unleash her own at the same time.

    Also, note that the weapons you listed are fairly valid, but they are not the actual weapons used by the other Hunters. That is a game gimmick. Samus is capable of absorbing the energies and mimicking their effects with her arm cannon (as she does in every other game to some extent). This effect would be somewhat diminished in potency from the original counterparts.

    Maybe I need to clarify a bit more before more simplistic arguments keep flooding this match (as all of Samus’ fights seem to do). The Power Suit the Chozo created and were so kind as to give to Samus is a marvelous piece of combat technology that absorbs, mimics, and modifies different sources of energy. It is a marvelous item, but it has some pretty MAJOR limitations.

    The energies Samus’ absorbs have shown the very real possibility of overheating the entire suit, rendering innert, powerless, disassembled, and even self-destructive. It is also suggested that it cannot mimic past a certain number of weapons.

    In earlier iterations of the game, we even saw the suit as capable of mimicking the energy signature for ONE wepon, replacing the previous energy signature. Newer versions of the games have demonstrated the ability to retain the energy signatures of several weapon patterns, but never more than a small number (6 or so at the most). She has been creative enough to recompose some of there energies into combining several of the patterns as demonstrated by the different concussive charged missiles.

    Regardless, it is very clear that she has NEVER possessed the entire arsenal at any one time. Whats more, the suit seems to have a self preserving mechanism that expunges the energy signatures after a prolonged period of time. It reverts to the basic pattern (Power Suit/Power Beam) Leaving samus with only a handful of the known upgrades (Varia Suit, Concussive Missiles, Screw Attack, Jump Boots, and Grappling Beam).

    You might say this is a game gimmick, but I disagree. The various unstable effects the suit has gone through when encountering Phazon Energies is proof enough to explain this argument, not to mention the effects some powerful explossions have caused (Pirate Ship explosion in Metroid Prime 1), which completely reverted the Suit to its basic form.

    Nedless to say, this is something that Fett is more than capable of doing as he has deviced the destruction of many a Starship and fortified bunker/base with nothing but his own arsenal.

    Now there IS a possibility of Samus being able of mimicking some of Fett’s weapons, but she would simply not have the time to do so against a killer of Jedi.

    The final point is that Samus has met her match in this most infamous of Bounty Hunters.

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    Again, to all posters here and posters-to-be. Please try and do your research first if at the very least within the matches in this site. admin has conveniently compiled separate sections of past matches for each combatant, and has provided the appropriate hyperlinks.

    If you are going to exchange words with others here, do try to not make yourself look like a complete buffoon. If you disagree, then disagree. That is completely acceptable, but KNOW what you are talking about instead of simply guess in favor of your favorite pick.

  26. Cpt Olimar
    Feb 12 - 12:13 pm

    mata, do you think its feasible to suggest that boba’s control for the ship could be destroyed by samus? Wouldn’t her electric upgrade, for example, be able to destroy much of his weaponry? Or is it also highly armored?

  27. JoshMcFace
    Feb 12 - 1:26 pm

    True about Samus’ beam weapons, they are limited to one at a time. She relies on the screw attack and bombing weapons for variety, as well as hypermode attacks, which I think could cause a problem for Fett.

  28. Thepocalypse
    Feb 12 - 1:50 pm

    Wow, matapiojo, you just lost my respect, you reacted like a total prick.

  29. Thepocalypse
    Feb 12 - 2:14 pm

    I don’t mean Samus will use her gunship to attack Slave I, she can use the light speed dash (or whatever it’s called, I don’t care) to simply jump through Slave I herself. Unless it jumps to Hyperspeed, it will not be dodging that. Should that one attack fail, in comes the gunship with a frontal assault while Samus uses a screw attack barrage. In the end, Slave I WILL be destroyed, even with Fett’s interference.
    So he fires his whole arsenal. She dodges and he’s got nothing.
    Also, the armour is called armour for a reason, even if he did hit her with everything, she could probably still survive (Just as she survived the incredibly powerful Omega Metroid of Metroid Fusion). Remember, that’s Chozo tech.
    As for the weapons, the ice beam, super missiles, charge beam, and dash are enough to defeat Fett and they surpass his weapons in quality easily.
    When trying to determine how strong Samus is, just check out the SA-X. It’s basically Samus at full power. That thing was nearly INVINCIBLE. You could shoot and shoot and shoot and you’d never stop it. And when you did, it was only possible with Samus’ weaponry. It managed to blast through the reinforced walls of the station with ease, and could make short work of the formidable Fusion Suit Samus.

  30. x on
    Feb 12 - 2:21 pm

    Bobo fett wins just read what mata wrote and if you don’t read it then your a idit and you need to never come to this site again.

  31. Matapiojo
    Feb 12 - 2:26 pm

    “Wow, matapiojo, you just lost my respect, you reacted like a total prick.”

    I am wounded…

    Really.

    “True about Samus’ beam weapons, they are limited to one at a time. She relies on the screw attack and bombing weapons for variety, as well as hypermode attacks, which I think could cause a problem for Fett.”

    I never said that Fett would have an easy time in this fight. Those attacks could still perform a considerable amount of danger. While the Screw attack is one of the simpler Suit Upgrades, there might be a system flaw that while it has not been stated as such, it seem fairly hard to disprove. In the earlier versions of the game, Samus was able to maintain her Screw Attack for a good amount of time. Note that these were the times she also demonstrated to have only one energy-weapon upgrade at a time.

    In the newer versions of the game, she was able to sustain several energy weapon upgrades, but her screw attack became much shorter. This simple corelation suggests that the suit cannot withstand both energy systems safely for prolonged periods. If you consider Samus as having multiple weapon upgrades, then you must also consider her speed boosts to be limited or unreliable. This would clearly grant Fett the advantage due to him being able to sustain true flight for a longer period.

    Her Hypermode is not much different as it needs kinetic energy caused by the innertia in the act of running. It is another example of the suit channeling and converting energy.

    Again, formidable upgrades, but still not sufficient to grant her a clear win.

    “mata, do you think its feasible to suggest that boba’s control for the ship could be destroyed by samus? Wouldn’t her electric upgrade, for example, be able to destroy much of his weaponry? Or is it also highly armored?”

    Fett has numerous counter-meassures to attacks such as those. After all, Ionic weaponry wielded by his targets would incapacitate him greatly. His Mandalorian armor has several dampeners to combat this sort of attack. The modifications done onto Slave-1 are no different.

    That said, it is not an unlikely scenario. I would say that it will be hard, but not impossible.

    As for his arsenal being destroyed, with the exception of his ussualy exposed Blaster, most of his arsenal is well concealed within the different ridges and sub-compartments of his Mandalorian suit. Mandalorian Iron (NOT your regular iron) protects them as much as it protects him.

    To follow onto one of my earlier posts. This fight will neither be quick or clear cut. Samus has a more advanced suit, no question about it, but Fetts armor is customized to deal with almost every oponent he could ever come up against.

    Unlike Samus who simply jumps into a situation and reacts accordingly, Fett makes sure to put his VAST resources into always being prepared. You name the possible scenario, and chances are that Fett has a counter-meassure for it.

    Samus has some powerful weapons, but nothing that decomposes mater at a molecular level. Fett does.

    Samus has demonstrated only basic capabilities for her vessel. Fett has shown a vast arsenal of weapons, armor, and other defensive and utility upgrades as well as shown the willing ness of using his ship as an aditional weapon when engaged on the ground against another oponent.

    Make no mistake, regardless of her achievements, Samus is in for the fight of her life.

  32. Matapiojo
    Feb 12 - 2:42 pm

    You are clearly still caught within the pretext of “Samus is best cause she does so-and-so in her games”. Thats a rather infantile view of the matter. She is a PROTAGONIST. Whatever she sets out to do in her little bubble of a world, she will dominate. It is meant to be so in order for you to keep coming back to play her games.

    On the other hand, I am presenting you fact and logical reasoning.

    “she can use the light speed dash (or whatever it’s called, I don’t care) to simply jump through Slave I herself.”

    This is another one of those “are you high?” moments. Slave-1’s heavy armor and shields survives direct impacts from Star-destroyer clas Turbo Blasters. I wish her good luck with that, but I will most likely see her get splattered on the ship’s hull.

    The analogy of a bug flying against a speeding winshield comes to mind.

    A ship-on-ship collision made more sense. That argument just made you look stupid.

    But wait…

    “Should that one attack fail, in comes the gunship with a frontal assault while Samus uses a screw attack barrage.”

    That made you look even worse.

    The Screw Attack is CONSIDERABLY weaker than her Hyper Speed suit boost. Great job doing math there, buddy.

    “Also, the armour is called armour for a reason, even if he did hit her with everything, she could probably still survive (Just as she survived the incredibly powerful Omega Metroid of Metroid Fusion). Remember, that’s Chozo tech.”

    The same tech that kills her when it overloads, or has complete system faliure (loosing all upgrades) when blasted by a large enough explosion? You wouldn’t see me caught dead in such an awesome “Chozo tech”.

    “As for the weapons, the ice beam, super missiles, charge beam, and dash are enough to defeat Fett and they surpass his weapons in quality easily.”

    Again, do these decompose matter at a molecular level? No?

    /shrug

    “When trying to determine how strong Samus is, just check out the SA-X. It’s basically Samus at full power. That thing was nearly INVINCIBLE. You could shoot and shoot and shoot and you’d never stop it. And when you did, it was only possible with Samus’ weaponry. It managed to blast through the reinforced walls of the station with ease, and could make short work of the formidable Fusion Suit Samus.”

    Ugh, back to “samus is best” arguments.

    Good day to you, sir.

  33. Cpt Olimar
    Feb 12 - 4:01 pm

    *sigh* i hate arguing on the side of idiots…..
    Don’t judge us all mata… some of us have brains….(i think)
    I would say that the electrical upgrade would be one of her more useful weapons. Considering its automatical homing, Boba has no chance of dodging it, assuming he is in range of course.

    By mentioning his usually explosed blaster, do you mean that it would be destroyed by the electric attack or no? I agree with your analysis of his other weaponss being safe. If his only exposed weapon is destroyed, this might give samus a small edge in terms of momentum in the battle. Something that could be reversed in seconds however.

    I don’t know who would win. But I want to back Samus with some real facts and options, not retarded crap. So for now I defend Samus.

    P.S Mata, considering some of the punishment samus takes during the games, without losing her upgrades ever, I would be inclined to say that her losing her weapons is a game mechanic. It’s hard for me to believe that she just happens to lose it every time before the game starts. I mean, why wouldnt she ever lose it during an intense boss fight when she takes a lot of damage?

    Once again, this is just an argument against yours. im not saying im right and your wrong, just debating this against you, thats all. :)

  34. Thepocalypse
    Feb 12 - 4:26 pm

    On the other hand, I am presenting you fact and logical reasoning.

    “she can use the light speed dash (or whatever it’s called, I don’t care) to simply jump through Slave I herself.”

    This is another one of those “are you high?” moments. Slave-1’s heavy armor and shields survives direct impacts from Star-destroyer clas Turbo Blasters. I wish her good luck with that, but I will most likely see her get splattered on the ship’s hull.

    The analogy of a bug flying against a speeding winshield comes to mind.

    A ship-on-ship collision made more sense. That argument just made you look stupid.

    But wait…

    “Should that one attack fail, in comes the gunship with a frontal assault while Samus uses a screw attack barrage.”

    That made you look even worse.

    The Screw Attack is CONSIDERABLY weaker than her Hyper Speed suit boost. Great job doing math there, buddy.

    “Also, the armour is called armour for a reason, even if he did hit her with everything, she could probably still survive (Just as she survived the incredibly powerful Omega Metroid of Metroid Fusion). Remember, that’s Chozo tech.”

    The same tech that kills her when it overloads, or has complete system faliure (loosing all upgrades) when blasted by a large enough explosion? You wouldn’t see me caught dead in such an awesome “Chozo tech”.

    “As for the weapons, the ice beam, super missiles, charge beam, and dash are enough to defeat Fett and they surpass his weapons in quality easily.”

    Again, do these decompose matter at a molecular level? No?

    /shrug

    “When trying to determine how strong Samus is, just check out the SA-X. It’s basically Samus at full power. That thing was nearly INVINCIBLE. You could shoot and shoot and shoot and you’d never stop it. And when you did, it was only possible with Samus’ weaponry. It managed to blast through the reinforced walls of the station with ease, and could make short work of the formidable Fusion Suit Samus.”

    Ugh, back to “samus is best” arguments.

    Good day to you, sir.

    This may come as a shock Mata, but speaking in a pretentious manner and flaming the opposing debater doesn’t make you right.
    I presented you valid points and facts, but apparently only information that supports your side of the debate is true.
    Everything I say that supports Samus you dismiss as “Samus is best”
    It would appear to my eyes that deciding one of the two is best is the point of this thread, so you look like a total idiot.
    My point being, you seem incapable of debating without the conversation devolving into a verbal fight. You chastise others for “fanboyism” while basically saying “Slave I is GOD!!! YOU CANNOT DEFEAT IT’S HOLY MIGHT!!!”

    In the same manner you addressed me as if we were actors in a poor 1950s film; Good day to you sir.

  35. Who?
    Feb 12 - 6:25 pm

    A lot of the weapons and “facts” you have talked about Thepocalypse I can not find. Could you give refrence to a game or a link to better support Samus? I mean, I know a lot about Metroid, but this lightspeed attack doesn’t sound like anything in her regular arsenal or the games themselves. Also, you speak as if she could simply dodge all of Fett’s attacks while he will just take all hers. Neither of them will stand still, and this will be by no means an easy fight. And do you even awknowledge his portable ion cannon that would wipe out her suits systems? That is one of the most important keys to Fett’s higher advantage. It would be far more useful in this fight than the icebeam. While I love Samus as much as Fett, he would be the most likely victor.

    PS. You can’t overate some fictitious character/ship, you simply can’t. Unless you have no life. They are written the way they are, and the way Fett/Slave 1 are written kind of do give them seemingly all-powerful traits, kind of like Samus in the games, but to a more experienced degree. “Read No Disentrations Please” or the “Bounty Hunter Wars” trilogy, and you will know.

  36. Darkforce
    Feb 12 - 8:17 pm

    “No, Samus could eliminate Slave I from the ground. It’s called a darkburst, look it up. The omega beam is 10x any weapon Fett has, and a hunter-class could stand it’s ground against Slave I anytime. Also, Samus could attack from the ground while Adam controls her ship.”

    well if she gets adam boba gets his papa Jango.

    and the dak beam would only harm bobas sheild. starwars sheild can withsand the effect of black holes for some time, the Yuzzan vong use micro black holes (similar to samusas dark shot) and is only darins the shield for a short amount of time.

    not to mention boba’s slave 1 can take a turbolaser hit. tubolasers are like super nukes with no radiation.

  37. Darkforce
    Feb 12 - 8:20 pm

    hahah Thepocalypse your good!

  38. Scenario
    Feb 12 - 8:22 pm

    Contrary to what seems to be popular belief, the Speed booster/Shinespark is not a “Win” button. It does destroy everything it comes into contact with, but it requires running in straight line for about 50 feet. Not applicable in this situation.

    The Screw Attack is much better, as it starts immediately and continues going until Samus lands, stops somersaulting, or starts shooting. Combined with the Space Jump, which allows infinite somersaults for flight, the Screw Attack never ends.

    It’s worth noting that there are different versions of the same beam. In Prime , the wave beam is homing and electricity based and the plasma beam is actual plasma. In the 2-D games, the wave beam goes through walls, the plasma beam goes through enemies, and they stack (This makes taking cover impossible, and allows Samus to shoot from behind cover). I think it’s because some are actual beams, and some are templates that apply to other beams. That would explain the Spazer/Wide and Charge beams, one of which splits any beam into three blasts (without lower their individual damage), and the other charges shots. Spazer/Wide and Charge also stack.

  39. Who?
    Feb 12 - 9:51 pm

    So Thepocalypse was talking about the Shinespark? No wonder I diddn’t understand him. He gave it a wrong description with some ability that it doesn’t have. I remember Fusion mind you, it doesn’t give her “lightspeed” and wouldn’t. give her an edge to such a quick and ruthless opponent. At least you give valid information Scenario. Ah yes! The suped up wave/plasma beam combo. If this is able to pass straight through Fett’s armor itself, then this would be Samus’s go to weapon for this battle. However, Fett’s armor, if I am not mistaken, can not be damaged by plasma at all. Infact, his old durasteel armor was plasma resistant as well. Otherwise, this weapon would be as important to Samus as the ion cannon would be to Fett. Well, sort of. Samus’s weapons won’t disable Fett’s multi-system armor, while a small amount of Fett’s equipment would undoubtedly disable hers.

    PS. Thepocalypse, if your going to get upset about Mata’s posts, (which give great information about both combatants with a sprinkle of humor to go alongside) than maybe you should take this a little less seriously. Plus if you can’t take insults and such, get out of this wild frontier, because insults are inevitable here. You have to admit, you asked for it:

    “Wow, matapiojo, you just lost my respect, you reacted like a total prick.”

    He did infact NOT act like a “prick” and gave valid points that should have ended this thread, which leads me to believe that yo said this out of spite. Get a hold of life. Because if you can’t see the humor or get any fun out of stuff that is as pointless as this, than you really need some help. No offense.

  40. Who?
    Feb 12 - 10:14 pm

    Hey Admin, I got an intresting idea. How about a Fett and Samus team up against Ridley and IG-88. Makes sense when you think about it, and even more when you pit them against their arch-enemys. But you should take the key weapons away from Fett and Samus, like the ion cannon and wave-beam. Everybody likes their heroes to have some trouble, right? Just a thought…

    indeed, see what comes along next week…Admin

  41. Scenario
    Feb 13 - 12:23 am

    If someone could provide some information on this ion cannon I’d appreciate it. I can’t seem to find any information on the thing, unless it has another name I’m not aware of. This seems to be one of the deciding factors, though, so it needs to be resolved soon. If it really can disable the suit, I will concede defeat.

    But before that happens, my thoughts on Samus’ weapons:

    Power beam: Bounces off harmlessly.
    Wave beam(Prime): Some damage; could be effective.
    Wave beam(2-D): Goes through walls, possibly armor as well.
    Ice beam: If it doesn’t freeze, it will encase it ice with charged shot.
    Plasma beam(Prime): He’s immune to plasma, right?
    Plasma beam(2-D): Still plasma.
    Dark beam: Similar to ice beam
    Light beam: Similar to plasma beam
    Annihilator beam: Combines dark and light
    Nova beam: High frequency beam. Once used as mining laser.
    Missiles: Rapid fire in 2-D, homing and slow in Prime.
    Super Missile: separate weapon in 2-D, beam combo (power+5 missiles) in Prime.
    Ice missiles: See ice beam
    Power bomb: Major damage. Smaller blast radius in Prime
    Grapple voltage: Give/take energy or rip weapon from hands.

    I need some sleep.

  42. Who?
    Feb 13 - 2:36 am

    “If someone could provide some information on this ion cannon I’d appreciate it.”

    Sure thing friend. I wish I were more computer savvy so that I could post a direct link to the page, (Not much of a computer person, more of looking it up in a book type) but I suppose the most I could do is tell you to look up wookiepedia. Just punch in ion cannon on the search bar once you are there. I’ll paste this summary from the ion cannon page itself.

    “These particles seriously interfered with the operation of electronics and computer systems, shorting circuits and often disabling them outright. The actual physical damage would sometimes result in fused joints on machines, due to the heat produced.[1]

    Large negative-ion pulses were charged in a turbine generator then channeled into a plasma charge or released as a large pulse towards a target. As a result, ion cannons were the weapon of choice for subduing, rather than destroying, enemy starships, vehicles, shields, or droids.”

    Now, in “Tales of the Bounty Hunters” There was a scene where IG-88 tracked Fett at Cloud City to steal Han Solo from him. Fett, however, knew that he was followed and anticipated it was indeed 88, so knowing that he was dealing with quite possibly the most dangerous droid in the galaxy at the time, Fett deceided to play it safe and disable his friend with his portable ion cannon (it’s a regular in his arsenal I believe). And he did, stuffing the droid with it’s own grenades afterwards. Now, the ion won’t destroy Samus, but it would shut down her systems I think. She would become a sitting duck to be most likely destroyed by Fett. He’s still kind of a villain after all. But as I said before, and I wasn’t joking, Samus would do better in her zero suit. Think about it, so don’t conceide just yet mate. It’s about midnight my time, and I have no idea what the hell I’m doing up.

  43. Matapiojo
    Feb 13 - 9:40 am

    @Who? – “How about a Fett and Samus team up against Ridley and IG-88. Makes sense when you think about it, and even more when you pit them against their arch-enemys.”

    That is a great match-up. This will be very entertaining.

    @Scenario

    OK, I will stay away from numbering his entire arsenal as it is extensive, but these are the two weapons that I believe Samus has NO defense against.

    -DXR-6 Disruptor Rifle (wiki description):
    “Disruptor weapons, a generally illegal subset of blaster weaponry, could disintegrate matter at the molecular level and rip apart living material with ease and speed. The DXR-6 could be fitted with a zoom scope (note: which of course Fett modified), making it an effective sniper rifle at great distances. Because of the nature of this weapon, even a glancing blow will produce grievous injuries. This weapon usually results in a one hit kill and often times, the only sign that there was a target is a smoking pile of ash where the enemy used to be.”

    I don’t think I need to expand very much on that. One hit, as far as sniper range mind you, and nothing survives it considering Fett’s marksmanship. Samus would not even know the battle started before it was over.

    -Knee Pad-mounted Rocket Dart Launchers w/ Molecular Acid:
    There are many different rocket darts in his arsenal including stun, neural, or explosive agents, but this particular one will be deadly to Samus. The Molecular Acid (surprise, surprise) dissolves matter at a molecular level. It is essentially the same thing as the Disruptor Rifle on a much smaller scale. The effect acts a bit slower, but he can rapid-fire these rockets in quick succession while he is engaged in combat.

    While you think you are under the assault of blaster, laser, grenade, rocket, or plasma fire, you never expect to be on the recieving end of this near undetectable barrage. Fett uses these launchers as a covert attack while distracting his target with the more flashy weapons. Samus will be taken by surprise when her armor (and quite possibly her own body) starts dissolving in half a dozen different spots.

    The pain alone from having your armor/flesh/bones slowly dissolving to nothing will be incapacitating enough for Fett to do anything he pleases. Neither capture, death, nor “entertainment” are out of the question.

    As for the weapon in question, the Ion Gun. I too am unable to find the actual specs of the device, but I know for a fact that he disabled IG-88 with one in the events of Shadows of the Empire. Just do a simple search and you will be able to verify this.

    Fett’s arsenal constantly grows/changes and many reference sites will fail to list it entirely. This is the same reason why we never see his Lightsaber listed on any reference, eventhough we KNOW he has one. Most reference sites list only the items visible from the movies (both from him or Jango), or movie articles, but he has access to much more weaponry.

    Further, this could be another point where Fett’s remote access to his ship comes in. We have seen him using his ship simultaneously to his own attacks against a ground oponent (as he does also in the events of Shadows of the Empire). Slave-1’s armaments do include an Ion Cannon. If Fett chooses to use that, it would indeed be devastating, but the rest of Slave-1’s arsenal is far deadlier.

    The remote access is not invulnerable to jamming. If Samus has something to counter that, then it would not be an issue. However, destroying the ship if a considerably harder task as opposed to what some others might have you believe. This extremely customized vessel is one of the most feared ships in the galaxy for a reason and it is not just because Boba Fett could be in it.

    The thing is HEAVILY armored, HEAVILY shielded, and HEAVILY armed. It also have very complex utilitary and electronic systems, with a vastly superior AI at the helm. The ship has literally survived and destroyed large capital vessels such as Star Destroyers.

    As far as I know, Samu’s gunship has not demonstrated these abilities. All I have seen it perform are basic remote comands as move from point A to point B, as well as linear bombing runs. Still, I think it is fair to keep her gunship in mind and consider it part of her arsenal.

    On another note regarding Scenario’s post. I am glad he was able to verify the previous information regarding the Screw Attack and the Shinespark.

    Like I tried to inform above, both these Suit enhancement demonstrate its capacity of redirecting the kinetic energy from Smaus’ movements onto an enhanced energy output. These are perfect examples on how vulnerabe the suit would be to an EMP/Ion attack.

    Both of these have Samus moving in a straight line. Something she simply cannot afford versus Fett. This is specially true for the Shinespark as she must run before the suit gathers enough energy. That will grant a prime oportunity for Fett to decimate her.

    In any case; Ion, Disruptor Rifle, Molecular Acid. Just take your pick on which will take Samus out first.

    @Cpt Olimar

    Yes, the EE-3 Carbine Rifle could be destroyed. This could be a major disadvantage to most other oponents, but as you can see by my references above, that is not the right tool to dispose of Samus anyways. It would be a mere inconvenience as he looses another tool for his diversion tactic.

    I also agree that the suit loosing those upgrades in Prime due to the explosion plays more like a game gimmick. However, it is not completely out of the question. For all we know, it is just an example of “right” conditions being met. The explosion could have been electromagnetically charged.

    By all that I have explained above, this could be yet another example of the suit’s vulnerability to Ion/EMP weapons. I admit to some sever speculation against that particular event, but the fact that the Suit’s energy abilities CAN be disrupted is undeniable.

    If Fett aproaches his attacks against Samus like any other enhanced droid in SW (IG-88, 4-LOM, etc), he will be the victor. Given as he has the capacity of true flight, as well as an energy deflecting body armor, he may have enough factors to his survivability to remain alive long enough to pull off a win.

    Note that some of Samus’ arsenal might be just as deadly to Fett if she manages to score a hit first. Super-missile combos might be particularly devastating as they may produce enough concussive force to cause harm WITHIN Fett’s armor, even with its dampeners. Prolonged exposure to the Magma Cannon may also be devastating.

    The margin will be close if he doesn’t use the Disruptor Rifle, or the Ion Gun. He only uses these weapons sporadically as they are quite expensive. Against such a dangerous oponent, I’m sure he WOULD use either one of them.

    @Thepocalypse – “This may come as a shock Mata, but speaking in a pretentious manner and flaming the opposing debater doesn’t make you right.”

    No.

    Being right, makes me right.

    I am not above conceeding if I am wrong as I have demonstrated on other matches, but the stuff that was comming from YOU did have a sense of “Samus is best”. Note how I have not reacted the same way against other supporters of Samus. Scenario and Olimar in particular have brought up several good points.

    All I have done is provided factual information and logical analysis as to why I think Fett has the advantage in this match. Its just as simple as that.

    Like I said before, if I seemed crude and blunt all you have to do is grow a thicker skin. I am just a single voice amongst the millions you might find around the web with a similar attitude. If you cannot take the pressure of a heated fictional argument, this is not the place for you.

  44. The Chosen One
    Feb 13 - 4:42 pm

    I think that Samus is alot tougher then Boba but Boba is a bounty hunter you cant expect him to fight fair so I assumed he would use his ship. Sorry if people are freaking out and arguing that Samus has a ship too. I couldnt care less.

  45. JoshMcFace
    Feb 13 - 5:14 pm

    “She can use the light speed dash”
    Its supersonic not light speed

  46. JoshMcFace
    Feb 13 - 5:28 pm

    “In the newer versions of the game, she was able to sustain several energy weapon upgrades, but her screw attack became much shorter. This simple corelation suggests that the suit cannot withstand both energy systems safely for prolonged periods.”
    If the screw attack retained its original ability, the prime games would have been ridiculously easy, there’s not really much point in looking for an explanation, though I value your point.

    “This would clearly grant Fett the advantage due to him being able to sustain true flight for a longer period.”
    Seeing as other matches with Samus have her with her best equipment, I’m going with the original screw attack, which could sustain vertical indefinitely, though it is not as maneuverable as Fett’s jet pack (but can’t this only stay constantly in use for one minute?)

    “Her Hypermode is not much different as it needs kinetic energy caused by the innertia in the act of running. It is another example of the suit channeling and converting energy.”
    I don’t know what hypermode you’re talking about, but I’m referring to the Phazon hyper mode, with which Samus becomes prone only to phazon based attacks. There’s no running involved. Though it could be channeling energy, depends on how you look at Phazon.

    “Samus has some powerful weapons, but nothing that decomposes mater at a molecular level. Fett does.”
    I know little about this kind of science, but Samus’ dark beam definitely has an ‘anti matter’ aspect, and so does the annihilator beam, which has both matter and anti-matter.

    I’m not trying to prove you wrong or anything btw :)

  47. Scenario
    Feb 13 - 6:26 pm

    Wow, I had no idea just how powerful Boba was. The effects of the disruptor rifle and molecular acid could be dampened by the suit’s energy shield, but that ion cannon is downright nasty. I don’t think it could shut the whole suit down, but it could definitely reduce it to the basics. Notice how even in the explosion, the suit stayed together, and the shields never gave out.

    And most of what has been said about Samus’s ship is true. It’s missiles can destroy anything the plot demands, and they’re a one-hit kill on enemies. It also has it’s own grapple beam for dropping things on other things. But the shielding is weak; it took a beating from an armored cyborg for a few minutes, who managed to break it’s fuel line.

    The ship is also equipped with a missile factory and energy generator. Samus can use the ship to instantly recover damage and regain ammo, provided the thing doesn’t explode first.

  48. L-W
    Feb 13 - 9:56 pm

    The ion rifle is especially deadly, not only disrupting electrical systems, overriding charges and melting fuses, destroying circuits and effectively rendering any kind of technology useless, but often causes severe burns, heart failure and even fatal brain damage upon direct impact to most Humanoid organisms.

    Just imagine the experience of several highly powered defibrillators shocking you at once, from the inside.

    From what I can gather (From the limited canon information there is), the Ion Rifle does not conventionally fire a projectile, where a bullet or plasma ordinance normally leaves the barrel of a weapon, but directs a beam of energy that causes a build-up of ionized radiation and electrons within a target area. Effectively electrocuting a person from within rather than from some external source, which makes Ion weaponry incredibly effective at voiding most energy shields or barriers erected to protect against conventional firearms.

  49. Who?
    Feb 13 - 11:54 pm

    Ah! L-W, you finally post. I need your help on identifying a certain blaster. You’ve seen the Holiday Special correct? I know Lucas considers the whole thing a waste, but one of the weapons he uses, the Sacros K-11, looks strikingly like the blaster pistol strapped to his side in The Empire Strikes Back. If it is infact the Sacros, then it would be Fett’s greatest blaster pistol for reasons you know if you have seen the firepower. Now, I think it is indeed his trusty “Disintegrator.” If you have a thought Mata, L-W, it would help me out a lot. You probaly do, as you both have metioned a disintegrator gun before, but I never knew if you meant his disruptor rifle, the Sacros K-11, or some other weapon of Fett’s that even I hav’nt heard of. Thanks.

  50. Cpt Olimar
    Feb 14 - 1:00 am

    one more question, is his disruptor rifle able to be destroyed? Because let’s say Samus destroys his basic weapon. Most likely, if they happened to encouter, this would be his primary weapon of choice. Given that her electrical upgrade attack destroys this weapon, what prevents her from destroying the other weapons as he pulls them out.

    Also, would the electrical upgrade have any effect on his jet pack? Just wondering.

    I think it is fairly certain to say that this isn’t going to be a “combatant” wins this hands down. I think that both combatants have a non-negligible chance of winning. Whether it be something as lopsided as 90-10, or maybe even 50-50. Basically, I don’t think this will be a match in which a BankGambling Award should be given. It seems close enough for the match to be not able to be completely determined by pen and paper.

    And it seems that Boba will have difficulty brining his ship out because of samus’s ability to destroy his equipment. Hmmm, this is a quality match.

  51. Locutus
    Feb 14 - 2:59 am

    I don’t see why Fett is worshipped by so many people. The guy pretty much did nothing to capture Solo, except haul him away to Jabba and take all the credit.
    He couldn’t stop 3 people and a wookie (one was blind, another was daggling helpless over the side of the hover craft, the wookie was just sitting there.) Then his jetpack was accidentally activated from being tapped by a blind person. This led to him rocketting off the hover craft and falling into a pit to his death…screaming like a girl the most of the way. Yup. That is one fearsome bounty hunter. Samus doesn’t have a chance…. *rollseyes*

  52. L-W
    Feb 14 - 3:41 am

    The Sacros K-11 is a Blaster native to the Panna system, most notable for its incredible firepower (More so than any other hand held Blaster) but limited durability and rarity of replacement parts. Whilst powerful, its sheer expense and antiquity alone means that Boba taking it to battle would be the equivalent of taking an expensive antique firearm to war.

    Not advised.

  53. Matapiojo
    Feb 14 - 8:46 am

    @Cpt Olimar

    Well, given how the DXR-6 Disruptor Rifle is HIGHLY outlawed throughout the galaxy, its extremely rare and expensive, and its an “ace up the sleeve weapon”, I am pretty confident this is one of those items that he has concealed at all times (much like his Ion Gun). It is not invulnerable, but its one of those things that as soon as it makes an appearance, the match its over. I doubt Samus would get an opportunity to neutralize those two weapons in time.

    I think the Jetpack is absolutely vulnerable to electrical attacks. That could indeed be an advantage to Samus should she be able to cut Fett’s mobility thus, while maintaining her own. Of course, those type of moments in a fight are the ones that “force” Fett to use the big guns so to speak.

    I agree with you, unless Fett decides to use the Ion Gun or the Disruptor Rifle as soon as the fight starts. This type of fight would be great to see unravel in an official medium. Both combatants have enough capabilities to defeat the other.

    In actuality, these two are one and the same. They are only separated by their respective universes and their role within them.

    @JoshMcFace

    “Seeing as other matches with Samus have her with her best equipment, I’m going with the original screw attack, which could sustain vertical indefinitely, though it is not as maneuverable as Fett’s jet pack (but can’t this only stay constantly in use for one minute?)”

    In that case, this attack will be certain doom…for her. Like I said before, mobility is NOT something she wants to forfeit against this opponent. Much less with him having Ion weaponry at his disposal. His Ion attack could in theory leave the suit frozen in a very unpleasant manner, not to mention open to all attacks.

    Further, we have seen how Samus’ suit channels energy to transmute her physical shape into an alternate programmed shape, the Morph Ball. If this same principle is considered for the screw attack, as we have seen it in earlier games resemble the actual ball rather than her assuming a fetal position, then an Ion blast would simply dissipate the energy that allows her body to be converted as such. The energy that holds her within those shapes would simply fade, killing her outright.

    “I don’t know what hypermode you’re talking about, but I’m referring to the Phazon hyper mode, with which Samus becomes prone only to phazon based attacks. There’s no running involved. Though it could be channeling energy, depends on how you look at Phazon.” (as well as Scenario’s point of shield defense)

    Like I said earlier, Samus has NO defense whatsoever against the Disruptor Rifle, the Ion Gun, or the Molecular Acid. There is no way around that not even shields. When matter is being dissolved at a molecular level, there is no hope for the one at the receiving end.

    I suppose I should give it a little wiggle room because I am by no means the authority in said subjects. Maybe I have a complete misunderstanding of the physics involved between the Disruptor Rifle, Molecular Acid Darts, and Smaus’ shields. I’ll just leave that point of discussion to be further explored by my more knowledgeable counterpart.

  54. Matapiojo
    Feb 14 - 9:05 am

    “I don’t see why Fett is worshipped by so many people. The guy pretty much did nothing to capture Solo, except haul him away to Jabba and take all the credit.
    He couldn’t stop 3 people and a wookie (one was blind, another was daggling helpless over the side of the hover craft, the wookie was just sitting there.) Then his jetpack was accidentally activated from being tapped by a blind person. This led to him rocketting off the hover craft and falling into a pit to his death…screaming like a girl the most of the way. Yup. That is one fearsome bounty hunter. Samus doesn’t have a chance…. *rollseyes*”

    This is one of those points that clearly exposes the whole concept of supporting events that happened to the protagonists’ benefit. In the movies, Fett is meant to be a lower echelon antagonist mainly to a supporting character. Nothing but a hyped-up villain that is humorously bested by his intended quarry.

    Fett’s story has been considerably expanded upon. His role has shifted to that of a protagonist. It is incredibly unfair and unrealistic to compare Samus’ status as the central protagonist within her saga, while only comparing Fett at his incredibly inaccurate role in episodes V and VI.

    When considering Fett as a Protagonist role, he has attained feats that are indeed comparable to Samus’ grandeur. Surviving an acid pit of the Sarlac insides, while killing the beast in the process seems pretty impressive in my book. Overthrowing Hutt cartels almost single-handedly is equally as impressive. Then there’s the event of killing Jedi, or dueling Vader, or becoming Mandalore as well as reviving his people’s glory, or even training a Skywalker…

    The list goes on.

    I didn’t simply state that Fett was best. I presented strong and factual points that prove he has a clear advantage. your post just seems like a method of reverting the argument towards the “preferred” hero without going through the trouble of actually arguing logically to her favor.

  55. L-W
    Feb 14 - 9:45 am

    “I don’t see why Fett is worshipped by so many people. The guy pretty much did nothing to capture Solo, except haul him away to Jabba and take all the credit.”

    In the original trilogy he gets about five minutes of screen time, being listed as nothing more than a lesser secondary character *at best*. But it is the officially condoned expanded universe series where we start to see Boba shine and become the badass that we all know and love.

    To sum it up, you have an eighty year old Mandalore warrior Chieftain, who worked as a high-priced assassin when he was just barely a teenager, sired an untold number of children, led the Imperial 501st legion (The most elite troops of the empire) into numerous victories, raced Speeders as a hobby (That could travel in excess of 700Km/h), defeated Durge in a fist fight, killed the entire Bounty Hunter guild when they placed a price on his head, survived the Sarlacc (A psychic, memory absorbing alien) by digging his way out with nothing but his bare hands, became the leader of the Mandalroian military after defeating the former leadership in a duel, repelled the Yuuzhan Vong invasion (That had claimed the lives of trillions of Star Wars denizens) and even fought their commanders, outnumbered, in hand to hand combat.

    And as a final insult, he recruited and adopted Jaina Solo (The daughter of Han Solo) and trained her to be a Bounty Hunter and his eventual successor.

    Boba Fett pretty much just lives every common fantasy of the average male: To travel the Galaxy in an extremely powerful ship, hunting aliens, unleashing undue amounts of high-tech firepower with an arsenal that no modern military could match and spending your nights either rolling in your vast stockpile of riches or being pleasured by Women.

    He is essentially every desirable male trait multiplied by ten, far greater in appreciation alone than modern carbon copies such as Master Chief. As a Star Wars fan far wiser than myself once put it:

    “Sometimes it’s not what you say, but how friggin’ cool you look not saying it.”

  56. JoshMcFace
    Feb 14 - 9:59 am

    “If this same principle is considered for the screw attack, as we have seen it in earlier games resemble the actual ball rather than her assuming a fetal position”

    The morph ball is debated, but I personally see it as a form of energy within the suit, so it could be disrupted by the ion based attacks. But the screw attack is completely different technology. Even in the older games, the screw attack was considered an upgrade to the “space jump,” which was a form of somersault. The screw attack was never shown to transform samus into energy as the morph ball does, rather, it engulfs samus in a combination as she somersaults, and so would not share the morph ball’s weakness. It would definitely prove a problem to Fett if his jet-pack had been disrupted.

    While Fett’s maneuverability with use of the jet-pack is obviously greater, the screw attack is not useless when it comes to maneuverability, especially when you think of it as literally somersaulting in any direction the air. Unfortunately, it’s earlier versions, which could stay airborne, were not really explored in wide open environments, due to the nature of the old games. It was more often used for gaining height in shafts, or navigating through a tunnel, rarely a mixture of both.

    The disruptor rifle is indeed a sort of “ultimate weapon” in this fight, and seems to be a powerful version of Samus’ dark beam, which was able to create dimensional rifts, and was described as the “antimatter” half of the annihilator beam.

    Hypermode seems to draw energy from natural, living phazon within Samus herself. I do not know what the effects of Fett’s more powerful weapons on it would be, though standard weapons would probably do very little.

    Both fighters have weaknesses in their equipment, shown by the morph ball and the jet-pack, and both have seriously damaging countermeasures.

  57. Who?
    Feb 14 - 1:44 pm

    “The Sacros K-11 is a Blaster native to the Panna system, most notable for its incredible firepower (More so than any other hand held Blaster) but limited durability and rarity of replacement parts. Whilst powerful, its sheer expense and antiquity alone means that Boba taking it to battle would be the equivalent of taking an expensive antique firearm to war. ”

    Not advised.

    Thanks L-W.

  58. JoshMcFace
    Feb 14 - 3:38 pm

    *combination of energies

  59. Cpt Olimar
    Feb 14 - 6:24 pm

    “And as a final insult, he recruited and adopted Jaina Solo (The daughter of Han Solo) and trained her to be a Bounty Hunter and his eventual successor.”

    that’s
    just
    awesome

    (was she any good in comparison to him?)

    @mata
    yea, I agree with everything you said. Basically, they are “even” enough that if either appeared in the another’s videogame they could be a really hard boss, if you know what I mean. Although for game mechanic balancing purposes, his OHKO weapons would be nerfed.

    So to sum up the big differences:
    Samus has slightly better armor than Boba (assuming both are being attacked by the same weaponry)
    Boba sacrifices weapon durability (i.e. the durability of the actual gun hes using) for a huge increase in firepower
    Boba has better flying capabilities, at the expense of it potentially being destroyed
    While both can summon their ships, Boba can’t if samus is withn range to destroy his remote control for it.

    All-in-all, boba’s firepower advantage is huge, but some of his disadvantages might stack up against him, given that Samus knows of them through the scan.

    An awesome match to bring the popcorn and soda to watch :D

  60. Who?
    Feb 14 - 8:07 pm

    “While both can summon their ships, Boba can’t if samus is withn range to destroy his remote control for it.”

    I doubt she could destroy it, not just because it’s not a remote-control, but that it’s safely built in his helmet. Which even Samus dosen’t the firepower to destroy.
    But yeah, the fight seems like it go either way. You’re bringing the popcorn, right?

  61. JoshMcFace
    Feb 15 - 2:51 pm

    “All-in-all, boba’s firepower advantage is huge”
    The advantage isn’t that huge really. Samus’ more powerful weapons are often forgotten. And she has a bigger variety I think.

  62. Who?
    Feb 15 - 4:38 pm

    A larger arsenal perhaps. But Fett has a few weapons that surpass Samus’s own. Not by far, but pretty damn close. I’m not sure how people will understand this but here goes. Samus’s equipment is clearly more advanced, but Fett’s is more… Sophisticated. All in all they both have advantages that could say that either could win.

  63. Matapiojo
    Feb 16 - 9:35 am

    Quantity of weaponry makes no difference in this case. Regardless of what you guys want to argue and support, Samus is still disadvantaged. Fett will win in the end.

    Samus does NOT have a one-hit-kill weapon. Fett does.
    Samus does NOT have a readily available multi-arsenal. Fett does.
    Samus does NOT have a disabling weapon. Fett does.

    Even if Fett decides to not use his Disruptor Rifle against this incredibly dangerous opponent, he has the tools to end the fight in short order. After a very interesting fight, the Ion Gun and the Molecular Acid will be the end of the Chozo Legacy.

  64. JoshMcFace
    Feb 16 - 7:27 pm

    I just meant that a variety would be more of a suprise to Fett, though Samus’ variety consists mainly of different beams for taking on different enemies, whereas Fett has a variety of weapons specifically for killing quickly.
    If Samus managed to avoid Fett’s attacks long enough, she may be able to get a few hits in, get rid of his jet pack and gradually take him down with superior agility and speed. She may also be able to use the speed booster to end this fight quickly, though she’d need some time and distance, which would be a problem
    However, Fett would be able to end this fight quickly if Samus chose not to react immediately.

  65. JoshMcFace
    Feb 25 - 12:32 pm

    I nominate both Fett and Samus for some sort of special shared award for a match that could:
    – Go on for ages.
    – Have many many varying outcomes.
    – See the greatest couple in history.

  66. admin
    Feb 25 - 1:25 pm

    @JoshMcFace – Sorry, no ties allowed. I want to see this play out and have people declare a winner.

    – Admin

  67. Matapiojo
    Feb 26 - 3:54 pm

    Ties are lame anyways. Who would ever want that?

    ….Other than the loosing side, that is.

  68. JoshMcFace
    Feb 27 - 12:19 pm

    Aha I wasn’t being serious!!

  69. Skrunks
    Mar 05 - 5:29 am

    I just did some reading up on Jango Fett, and honestly, he doesn’t stand a chance. Even his armor wouldn’t be enough protection. Samus is faster, has a hell of alot more firepower, far more durable and much stronger. Samus can tear steel in her power suit and she can take a stomp from Thardus without significant damage. Hell, even high powered mining lasers aren’t enough to punch through the Samus’ personal shield. Like someone else said, unless Boba turned the guns on the Slave I loose on Samus, he really doesn’t have the fire power or the endurance to out last Samus. She’s brought down much nastier Baddies then Boba Fett ever did.

  70. Skrunks
    Mar 06 - 2:17 am

    *Ahem* I meant Boba Fett, not Jango. :)

  71. Cpt Olimar
    Mar 06 - 3:03 am

    One way samus could win (Direct Plot Intervention) is if the super metroid comes and owns boba. That would actually be funny. He has her cornered and he is shooting the final attack when the metroid comes to suck his energy and give it to samus. That would actually be pretty funny.

    (@ mata) More seriously though, if Samus managed to destroy boba’s jet pack do you think her probability of winning will increase? I think it will substantially because now she has the time to use her super run speed to an advantage. I personally think that if he was limited ot the ground, that samus could pull a win despite his greatly advantageous weapons. Remembering that she can run at supersonic speeds in Super Metroid, and boba’s much less maneuverable state, I think that this scenario would tilt to her favor.

  72. Matapiojo
    Mar 06 - 7:55 am

    “I just did some reading up on Jango Fett, and honestly, he doesn’t stand a chance.”

    Looks like you did not read enough. I dare you to 1-up youself and actually read the posts above you.

    “Hell, even high powered mining lasers aren’t enough to punch through the Samus’ personal shield.”

    The DXR-6 Disruptor Rifle rips the very molecules that make Samus BE, appart. This is not a case of “mine is bigger than yours”. This is a case of “mine ends you”.

  73. JoshMcFace
    Mar 06 - 6:06 pm

    Cpt Olimar, if Fett had his air superiority taken from him, the tables could turn, as Samus would have the screw attack to stay in the air and attack unpredictably. However, if her matter was literally destroyed, she’d have no chance. Not even the crystal flash would heal her shields and armor from an attack like that. She’d definitely have to stay out his way until the opportunity arose.
    Hyper mode could give her a bit of coverage from the Disruptor Rifle, as Phazon could provide a sort of living shield, but her hyper mode may not work in such a way. That is a a trait more likely to be part of Dark Samus. The original Samus is going to lose if the Disrupter Rifle is used straight away.

  74. Skrunks
    Mar 07 - 11:33 pm

    “The DXR-6 Disruptor Rifle rips the very molecules that make Samus BE, appart. This is not a case of “mine is bigger than yours”. This is a case of “mine ends you”.”

    Not quite. Couple of reasons why:

    1) The Tenloss DXR-6 Disruptor Rifle rips the very molecules of the target apart. But not enough to totally disintigrate a target unless it is charged.

    2) It takes about 4 – 5 seconds to fully charge, and even then, it can only charge up once the scope is activated.

    3) It takes about 3 uncharged shops to disintigrate an unshielded humanoid. Unless a vital organ is hit, it would just whiz through and through. Painful, but not lethal unless multiple shots are hit in succession.

    4) It has a firing rate of about 1 shout every 3 seconds or so.

    5) Kyle Katarn’s personal shield could tank a fully charged Disruptor Blast unless it hit him in the head. We don’t have a good comparison of Katarn’s shield vs. Samus’, but a Light Saber rips right through his and Samus’ shield can take 10 – 20 hits from a tree-sized plasma blade.

    5) Boba Fett isn’t that stupid.

    Let’s assume that a fully charged Disruptor Blast would vaporize Samus with a single hit. Boba would have to stop, activate the scope, charge the weapon for a few seconds, then let loose a blast that Samus would likely dodge anyway. (Samus can maintain cognitive reflexes at supersonic movement speed. She would only have to see the Weapon and she would already be out of the way.) The Tenloss is a sniper/ambush weapon, not a firefight weapon. There’s a reason he has his EE-3 Carbine and doesn’t always use the Tenloss.

    If Samus was totally unarmored and unshielded and she didn’t know he was there, then it would be perfect. But the problem is that Samus doesn’t enter a hazerdous situation willingly without her suit. Her suit has targeting lock on and sensors that range about 100 – 200 meters in all directions. Plus, the Disruptor Blast wouldn’t even penetrate her personal shield. (IF you really want to argue this, Samus has taken matter-antimatter blasts to the face and come out relativly unscathed. The Tenloss works on a similar principle to a blaster, just using a heck of a lot more blaster gas and energy to create a much faster and potent energy beam. And like I already said, Kyle’s shield could take these hits, why can’t Samus’?)

  75. Who?
    Mar 08 - 4:19 pm

    Simply out of boredom I’m back.

    “1) The Tenloss DXR-6 Disruptor Rifle rips the very molecules of the target apart. But not enough to totally disintigrate a target unless it is charged.

    2) It takes about 4 – 5 seconds to fully charge, and even then, it can only charge up once the scope is activated.

    3) It takes about 3 uncharged shops to disintigrate an unshielded humanoid. Unless a vital organ is hit, it would just whiz through and through. Painful, but not lethal unless multiple shots are hit in succession.

    4) It has a firing rate of about 1 shout every 3 seconds or so.

    5) Kyle Katarn’s personal shield could tank a fully charged Disruptor Blast unless it hit him in the head. We don’t have a good comparison of Katarn’s shield vs. Samus’, but a Light Saber rips right through his and Samus’ shield can take 10 – 20 hits from a tree-sized plasma blade.

    5) Boba Fett isn’t that stupid.”

    Dear Skrunks,

    You are comparing Fett’s modified disruptor to the regular issue. Not only that but false info about the rifle in general. for one thing, it doesn’t need to have its scope activated to fire a full charged shot. Infact, the DXR-6 doesn’t typicly have a scope unless requested or modified. Try looking up Fett’s modified DXR-6. It not only has a higher capacity of ammuniton and cooling time, but has been augmented to a point where regular blasts react as fully charged shots from standard issues of the weapon. Fett’s modified disruptors, no, entire arsenal is I dare say the most formadible weaponry in the entire galaxy. Note also that it is not just this weapon that grants Fett a better advantage, but the ion gun, molecular acid, sonic beam weapons and thermal detinators to name a few.

    “(Samus can maintain cognitive reflexes at supersonic movement speed. She would only have to see the Weapon and she would already be out of the way.)”

    simply not true. She can acheive these speeds only by gaining enough kinetic energy, which takes time and disables mobility as she can only maintain these speeds in one direction by which would result in her defeat. Samus has better wit than that, especialy if she could muster as much information about him with a quick scan, (us being the audience grants us the opertunity to know all about Boba Fett, but people in fiction still see him as the mystery he was when we first saw him, meaning few info on him with signifigance.) Should this battle occure, Fett would be smart enough to disable Samus with the ion gun, which will either do just that or revert her back to standard power suit functions, then atomize Samus with his modified disruptor. But he has so many other ways to earn victory. While there is no way to determin the absolute winner in this battle, Fett carrys most of the aces in his sleeve, (literly) meaning he is the most logical winner.

    Thats why I nominate Fett as the BankGambling winner. All who oppose will give a logical reason why. All who agree say cheeseburger.

  76. Scenario
    Mar 08 - 6:48 pm

    “simply not true. She can acheive these speeds only by gaining enough kinetic energy, which takes time and disables mobility as she can only maintain these speeds in one direction by which would result in her defeat.”

    I think he meant that she has the same reaction time outside the suit as in it. When using the speed booster, her mind is able to keep up with the extreme speed she is moving, seeing as she can still aim (accurately) and stop on a dime.

    And I still don’t understand how most of these weapons pass through an energy shield.

  77. Who?
    Mar 08 - 7:37 pm

    “I think he meant that she has the same reaction time outside the suit as in it. When using the speed booster, her mind is able to keep up with the extreme speed she is moving, seeing as she can still aim (accurately) and stop on a dime.”

    Oh I see said the blind man. Sorry, shouldn’t have skimmed.

    “And I still don’t understand how most of these weapons pass through an energy shield.”

    Just the design of the weapon. It’s supposed to give a quick clean kill. Over the years common disruptor design was suppose to bypass sheilding, reach the target, cut,rip, and shake all molecules into utter oblivion. If the target was lucky, a patch of dust was left behind. And that’s a standard model. Fett’s is 99% more effecient out of modification. I’m still doing research on the weapon’s effects on certain surfaces that might reflect it like a beam against a mirror. Thats what I thought for the case of IG-88 anyway. It’s not exactly logical, but you know how fiction works. Still, it is not just the disruptor that takes the cake. I’m not saying Fett is the sure victor, but out of reasons of him carrying the majority of advantages he would be the most logical victor.

    I will say again, cheeseburger.

  78. Skrunks
    Mar 08 - 9:06 pm

    I’ll admit ignorance on Boba Fett’s Disruptor, I didn’t know it was modified and furthermore, my knowledge of the disruptor was based off of the research I did and my experience with the weapon in Star Wars: Jedi Knight II and Jedi Acadamy. Both instances the weapon is a usable in-game weapon. It was very powerful, yes, but in no way overpowered. I suppose the ‘Can only charge with scope’ was a balance measure. Either way, I’d like you to give your evidence for the disruptor being able to pass through energy shielding. If this was the case, then it would be the be-all to end-all weapon, since the weapon can be mounted in capital class variants and would crush any ship it went against if it could pass through any shields. And like I said before, Kyle Katarn’s personal shield in Jedi Knight II could take a fully charged hit and protect him from it.

    As for the Ion Cannon and Thermal detonators… Ion Cannons only disable a target when it’s shields are down. Ion Cannons will damage shields at a similar grade to comparably powerful blaster or turbolaser weapons. Thier disabling effect only works with a direct hit to the unshielded target. Infact, Star Destroyers used thier Ion Cannon’s to help drop the shields of enemy ships before destroying them. On the flip side, Turbolasers were used to drop the shields and halted fire when the shields were down, only firing Ion Cannons to disable it. The point is that the Ion Cannon would be no more dangerous to Samus then any other weapon. It would only disable her suit if her shield was down, which constituted death in almost all of the Metroid games anyway.

    Next, a thermal detonator uses a magnetic field to contain a miniature Nuclear Fusion explosion. This things are extremly dangerous, yes. But it’s nothing Samus hasn’t taken before, like I said: Samus has taken Matter-Antimatter blasts to the face.

    On the flip side, you have been downplaying Samus’ arsenal. This entire match might come down to who get’s the first shot, since Samus has numerous weapons at her disposal. I appologize if anyone said this before, discounting the weapons she obtained from the planet Aether (which include a dimensional portal and matter-antimatter cannon) and using her own Chozo designed arsenal, she could freeze Fett, knock him around with barrages of missiles (no air superiority with fast moving, homing high explosives), blast him with Super Missiles, wreck him with super-charged electrical bolts and possibly even incinerate him with Plasma, although his Mandalorian armor can resist Light Saber blades, so if it covered his entire body from head to toe, then her Plasma Beam might not do much. But even a crack in his armor and the immense heat from her Plasma Beam would rip his molecules apart, not even leaving a pile of ash. And I’m sure someone metioned Power Bombs before.

  79. Cpt Olimar
    Mar 08 - 10:01 pm

    As I argued before, her best bet is to quickly use the wave beam missile combo (in metroid prime 1) in an attempt to destroy his vulnerable jetpack. Going rambo for the kill on boba is full of fail and not going to work. If she manages to get his jetpack down, then the story changes.

  80. Who?
    Mar 08 - 10:17 pm

    I mainly get my info from the “essential guides” for the Star Wars universe. In these books and somtimes wookiepedia you will find the information you are looking for (but mainly the sourcebooks.) As for what you said about the ion gun, debatable. Read what Mata, L-W and myself wrote. Portable ion cannons effect personel sheilding and power armor diffrently than naval cannons on star cruisors. As for thermal dets, Samus’s armor would dampen the effects for sure, but in a weakened state, it makes great for a finishing touch. But as I said, all of Fett’s weapons have been amplaphied. Regular Class-A models have been known to level towns. A single Class-A was used to obliterate Xizors palace, roughly the size of a small city. After Fett modifies his, a single blast has a range of 100 meters, which Fett has survived by the way. So more or less a power-bomb, right?

    “like I said: Samus has taken Matter-Antimatter blasts to the face.”

    Ah yes, the annihilater beam:

    “The Annihilator Beam is not as powerful as its name might indicate, although it has a super-fast rate of fire, on par with that of the Power Beam. Normal shots have a homing effect, allowing the aiming in the general direction of an enemy to shoot it, the attack automatically homing in and damaging/destroying the target; this makes this beam extremely useful for taking down large hordes of small enemies, or firing barrages at more powerful foes while being able to dodge their attacks more easily. It is similar in function to the Wave Beam in Metroid Prime in many ways, and the arm cannon takes on the same shape as the Plasma Beam from Metroid Prime. The Annihilator Beam fires a mix of light and dark energy. This “matter/antimatter” combination has basis in the real world. When matter comes in contact with its anti-material form, the two will “annihilate” each other in through a massive explosion, from which extremely high levels of X-rays and gamma radiation is emitted. It is highly likely that this process actually happens when the Annihilator beam strikes a foe, giving it elevated power over the other beams. However, even the small amount of matter/antimatter that is shot from the beam to come in contact with each other, would be more than enough to trigger a nuclear sized explosion with a magnitude of close to 20 kilotons (the same as the fission bomb dropped on Hiroshima, Japan in 1945). Making this weapon (with all due respects) a pure work of fiction.”

    It doesn’t have the power as one might have thought, and even the effects as it would destroy all around ina single blast, including Samus. I mean, it is a powerful weapon with that one combo, but doesn’t exactly live up to it’s name. In your conclusion, you reached all of ours. Most of what you debated was all cleared in above notes. some thworted, some in Samus’s advantage, and some that suggest a standstill. As some might underestimate Samus, you underestimate Fett as well. I don’t like to toot my own horn, but I know a lot about both characters. From what I know, Fett holds few more cards than Samus. Thats all. But by all means, this will not be a landslide victory for either of them.

  81. Skrunks
    Mar 09 - 3:14 am

    I took Meta’s advice and read most of the other posts up there, I appologize for not doing this earlier, lol. Most of these really long debates go over the same things as went over in the first dozen or so posts, so I just grazed over the rest.

    Anyway, there are a couple of misunderstood things about Samus’ suit. I’ll give you a brief history of the suit to better understand her. See, Samus is one of my all time favorite fictional characters, and I’ll defender with as much Zeal as I can, and I’m also an information database. My long time friends look to me for redundant information about how stuff in Star Trek or Star Wars works, and I put that same attention to detail with Samus. (Not that my affection for Samus will get in the way of an objective debate, if I’m wrong I’m wrong and I’ll admit it.) Anyway, on with the infamous Power Suit.

    So, here are some hard info on her Power Suit. It was designed by one of the most enlightened and advanced races in the Metroid Universe, the Chozo. The suit is several hundred, if not thousands of years old, constructed during the Prime of the Chozo’s life span and left on Zebes specifically for her to find during her ‘Zero Mission’ to destroy Mother Brain. It was not only designed to protect her from all kinetic and enegry based attacks, but in-corporeal attacks as well. Spirit blasts launched at her from insane Chozo Ghosts, Ing Possession and Metroid feeding some of the more radical feats the Power Suit protects her from. The Gravity suit (which I’d say is Samus’ normal suit since she gets it at the end of every Metroid game, it’s Chozo designed, and Samus doesn’t revert back to the Varia suit at the end of the game when she has the Gravity suit) makes her immune to almost all known acids and even lava. She is capable of fully submerging herself in some of the most corrosive acids out there without harm.

    The Suit IS NOT armor. The suit is armored, but it is actually a part of Samus while active. It is mostly biological and can only be removed from her when she so wills it. If one were to attempt to remove while she is unconcious, they would have to do so surgically. She is one with the Suit while it is active, She puts it on and takes it of via matter-energy conversion, this is why you see that ‘flash of light’ whenever she takes it off/puts it back on. This is also how all ammunition is stored. Missiles and power bombs are in an energy state inside her suit. I also theorize that the Power Suit’s organic nature means that the ‘CPU’ would be organic as well. The Chozo that designed it have plenty of bio-engineering experience, having created the sentient biological hyper-computer Mother Brain and even Metroids themselves.

    Now, onto Ion Cannons. I like this quote because it sums up the problem pretty well:

    “This one was not easy, it required a little research and a lot of thought. First, an Ion is a charged particle and like all such particles it is attracted to unlike charges and repelled by like charges. Ion weapons must shoot a packet of LIKE charged particles. Because these particles are of similar charge they, by the laws of physics, will tend to disperse themselves rather rapidly (thus the short range of Ion weaponry). Unlike other weapons which depend on impact for thier damage, the Ion weapons gets it’s effects from the electrical damage. Organic objects, and electronics would be exstensively damaged, often ‘shorting out’ either type of system rather easily. Humanoids will often be defibrillated upon being shot (assuming that they have a heart), and secondarily burned (thrid degree and localized). This of course requires immediate medical attention or death will result! Electronics, will be rendered usless unless they are ‘hardened ‘ against such attacks, requiring extensive repair to get working again! Purely mechanical devises will be for the most part unharmed, unless they have many small, moving parts, which may be fused. As you can see Ion weapons would work excellent against people and complex machines but would do little damage to either. It is the side effects (defibrillation, knocking out of electronics, etc) that are the real use of these weapons, and as such would prove to be excellent anti personel (as long as the armor that they wear is conductive) and anti-machine weapons. Knocking out machines on the battlefield and killing un-armored humans is the best use of these weapons.”

    Note: The armor HAS to be conductive. Otherwise, it would do next to nothing. I really just can’t see why the Chozo would give their Successor tasked with protecting the Galaxy in their stead such a flaring weakness, not to mention the fact that her suit has already shown to be extremly non-conductive (Varia Suit) and protects agianst electrical attack just as well as any other damaging attack. How many times has Samus been Zapped by a random conduit in one of her many adventures to a damaged ship or station? It hurts, yes, but it is quite the far cry from totally disabling her suit/shield.

    So back to the disruptor. “The blaster gas used to generate the beam underwent a considerably different transformation that formed the disruptor beam. The resultant blast was short-ranged, less cohesive, and extraordinarily powerful; it differed from a standard blaster in that it created an energy wave consisting of disruptive, nonharmonic energy pulses that excited a target’s molecules to the point that it destroyed the bonds that held their constituent atoms together, painfully.” I’m well aware of how deadly this weapon is, especially if Boba Fett’s is upgraded. Anyway, I’m still not convinced that the Disruptor would pass through Samus’ personal shield. If it can block not only electrical and heat based damage flawlessly, but complete protection from kinetic, particle and electromagnetic radiation, why does the disruptor beam pass right through? I every disruptor article in Wookiepedia, and it didn’t say anything about disruptor beams passing through personal shields, and even the SW personal shield article doesn’t say anything about it. And Like I said before, Kyle Katarn and Jaden Korr’s shields could protect agianst a single charged blast from one of these suckers. I stand by my reasoning that the Disruptor would damage, but not penetrate Samus’ personal shield.

    Now about the Annihilator Beam. A common misconception about Matter-Antimatter reactions is that a gram of the stuff makes 40 Kiloton explosion through the simple E=MC2 formula. The problem is that half of that energy is released in the form of neutrinos and simply pass through all matter and vent into space. Then, the Gamma Rays would need to be absorbed by a bomb casing to convert into heat energy, otherwise they too would simply pass through most normal matter. It actually requires about a kilogram of Anti-Matter to achieve the effect of a 20 Megaton Nuclear weapon. Anti-Matter weapons are largely inefficient. Keeping that in mind, if you were to somehow seperate matter and anti-matter but contained in the same bolt by magnetic sheaths, which then compress the two together upon impact, you could achieve a very destructive bolt of death that wouldn’t blow yourself up in the process, provided you use microscopic amounts of anti-matter. This blast would still be devestating, and the fact that Samus can take one to the face is still impressive.

    Lastly, Thermal Detonators. As you said Thermal Detonators can be used to level a city block al a Power Bomb. They actually probably use the same technology since Thermal Detonators seem to have a similar effect to Power Bombs the Major Difference is that Power Bombs don’t damage the user. But, I highly doubt Boba Fett would use such a weapon given the scenario that neither combatant knows anything about the other. Are 100 meter kill-zone Thermal Detonators be part of Boba Fett’s standard arsenal? I could see him carrying one ‘Just in case’ but the rest of his would likely be much smaller yield, probably a few meters so he doesn’t blow himself to kingdom come in the process. If you disagree, feel free to do so.

  82. Skrunks
    Mar 09 - 3:18 am

    P.S. I appologize for the bad grammar. It’s late, lol.

  83. Matapiojo
    Mar 09 - 9:12 am

    “Are 100 meter kill-zone Thermal Detonators be part of Boba Fett’s standard arsenal? I could see him carrying one ‘Just in case’ but the rest of his would likely be much smaller yield, probably a few meters so he doesn’t blow himself to kingdom come in the process. If you disagree, feel free to do so.”

    Those are indeed part of his usual arsenal.

    Now, you present very intelligent data (and trust me, that is very needed in this site), so I thank you for that. Lets move on to the main arguments.

    Lets say that you are correct in your assumption that the suit can withstand the Ion Gun. Mind you, this is something that I strongly disagree as everything about the suit displays the ability to conduct energy in different forms, but I will play along for the sake of arguing this point.

    You do a decent job of presenting a logical argument for the armor’s capability to resist the Ion weapon, and the Shield’s capability to resist the Disruptor beam, but you didn’t cover all your bases by those arguments.

    Tell me, what stops Fett from dissipating all shieldings with his Ion Gun FIRST, thet blasting the armor with the DXR-6? Is that not a likely rock-paper-scissor scenario to your argument above?

    To compund that, wouldn’t your “surgical bond” argument for the suit further prove how deadly the Molecular-Acid Darts would be to her?

    Believe me, I know how it is to defend your preffered character, but I still simply don’t see a different outcome to this match than the one I initially proposed. Even after Cpt. Olimar’s suggestion on post #79, these three key weapons remain in play for Fett to pull a hard-earned win over the deadly vixen.

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  84. JoshMcFace
    Mar 09 - 12:41 pm

    This match truly is a great one and I’ve learnt allot about both hunters. I’ve looked up a bit about Fett, but still know very little about his armour other than it’s amazing resistance to attacks. Does it have an energy source? Could parts of it be ripped off with significant force?
    Samus’s annihilator beam is a confusing one, but to add the confusion, it appears to create small dimensional rifts and break the sound barrier, making even a powered-down version a more efficient replacement for other standard beams.

    If it comes to the conclusion that Samus’s shields (including reserves) would be significantly damaged, another thing to think of is the awfully manly sounding “Crystal Flash,” which trades in some of Samus’s ammo (11 power bombs, 10 missiles and 10 super missiles ) in order to energize Samus’s shields fully. Of course, this would be useless if her shields were taken down extremely quickly.

    Hyper mode is something else to take into consideration. It makes Samus invulnerable to all but phazon based attacks, significantly powers up all her attacks (and adds some new ones), and can be activated almost immediately, although the effects of Fett’s Disruptor rifle may still be effective against it.

  85. AlphaCommando
    Mar 09 - 1:09 pm

    Well atleast it seems we have 2 more people capable of making very well thought out arguments…it warms my heart to read those posts….

    Congrats, you impressed me over the interwebs.

  86. Cpt Olimar
    Mar 09 - 1:22 pm

    “Hyper mode is something else to take into consideration. It makes Samus invulnerable to all but phazon based attacks, significantly powers up all her attacks (and adds some new ones), and can be activated almost immediately, although the effects of Fett’s Disruptor rifle may still be effective against it.”

    Eh….. I know what you mean but…..keep it in context. Nothing Samus faces can hurt her when she uses hypermode. . This isn’t exactly the same as a starman on mario for instance.

    Mata should agree that her resistance to non phazon weaponry would GREATLY increase, as the same thing occurs with the creatures that samus faces when they turn into hypermode. A similar approach might be more appropriate with Samus.

    @mata
    Since you are the most active Boba supporter, what approximate odds would you give samus just assuming that the fight began without boba’s jetpack. Do you think that his decreases mobility would turn the table? Or would you still give boba a slight edge?

    On a side note….
    It is easier to judge certain characters abilities in combat than others, obviously. The idea of “Ultimate Link” for example, makes a lot more sense than “Ultimnate Samus” For Link, he just puts items into his magical pocket. Add 100 masks here, and 50 arrows here, and 30 bombs there no problem. But for Samus, she actually incorporates the weapons systems into her suit and the upgrades. This makes it more difficult to actually guage samus’s ability? Can we just give her all the beam combos, since the c-stick on the gamecube only had 4 main directions, thus 4 beam weapons? Or is it beyond a game mechanic? I certainly find it no coincidence that Super Metroid compiled the beam’s, the first 2 primes did not, and that third one did. It certainly had to do with the controls available. The question remaining…. can it considered to be canon too then?

  87. Matapiojo
    Mar 09 - 2:03 pm

    I think that taking into consideration both characters’ high level of skill, short of loosing a limb, the loss of one of their enhanced mobility devices would be an inconvenience at best. note that this would be the same if Fett’s Ion weapon dissables only Samus’ Space Jump, Screw Attack, Speedboost, etc.

    I suppose that it would come down to who dissables what first. Even after either of them gets “grounded”, they have more than enough tools to continue being one of the most lethal beings in the galaxy. Both have enough weapons and support systems to compensate for them being engaged in combat with an opponent far more maneuverable than them.

    ….that is if they don’t malfunction instead of being dissabled. Curse you, blind Solo!

    This is why I have not really listed the jetpack as being a true advantage. Sure, Fett can perform true flight, but we have seen Samus deal with Ridley many times before.

    On the other points, I don’t know what to tell ya. It certainly should have been clarified in the scenario beforehand. Given the nature of Metraoid, there is very little to no information about her equipment other than what we see in the games, and of course, we just see whatever that game’s gimmick is at the time.

    The only logical explanation I could come up with was the energy-conversion theory I introduced into the argument on the earlier posts. Perhaps more Metroid/Samus knowledgeable individuals on the site would be able to make better sense of that.

    Like I said, I still think Fett has more Rocks to Samus’ Scissors, but I am still quite open to debate on that. Samus could always pull out some Paper I dont know about.

  88. Skrunks
    Mar 09 - 9:03 pm

    Got a bit of new data about the Ion Cannon vs. Samus thing. Plasma is made by charged Ions, in fact, during the Clone Wars the Republic made extensive use of Plasma Weapons because of their effect on Droids. Ridley’s main attacks are indeed Plasma Based, and therefore Ion Based, and hence, nothing Samus hasn’t faced before.

    @Metapojo: No reason he can’t wear down her shield first, but that’s the whole point of this debate. It wouldn’t be ‘Bang Samus disabled’ but it would be a case of him having to wear down Samus’ tremendously powerful shield.

    Also, I have neglected to mention equipment that Samus only possesses for a single game, such as the Annihilator Beam (Other then to demonstrate her shields durability) or Hyper Mode. I’ve been using examples of weapons that are present in the majority of the Metroid Games like the Gravity Suit or Plasma Beam. Furthermore, the arguments of Compounding Beams vs. Selectable Beams is more of a game mechanic then Samus’ capabilities. As Metroid Prime is the most realistic Metroid Game to date, I feel that the weapons Samus utilizes in that game are the most logicaly ‘Canon’ weapons, since it does cover every base used in the 2-D games except for the Crystal Flash. But like I said, I’ve been neglecting abilities that appear in only single games with the Exception of the WaveBuster and Flamethrower, since these two weapons are of Chozo Design and present in the most Logicaly played out and realistic Metroid game, Metroid Prime.

    Like I said above, I’ve been neglecting Hyper Mode because it is only present in one game, therefore it would be Akin to Boba being depicted as just after he escaped the Sarlac. It strikes the favor in one side over the other dependant on the time frame of the Character fight. I assume that both combatants fight in prime condition with the best non-specialized weapons that they have available to them. Hence why I usually discount Hyper Mode. However, Hyper Mode makes Samus invincible because Samus taps into the power of Phazon, which is extrordinaraly powerful. The G.F.S. Olympus was one of the largest ships in Metroid, and it was powered by Fuel Gel. Phazon is stated to have a hight energy output then Fuel Gel, which implies that Phazon would outclass even Anti-Matter in that department, considering that Anti-Matter technology is not unknown in the Metroid Universe. Anyway, Samus uses the Phazon to power all of her defensive/offensive abilities, including her shield. With a neigh-unlimited energy supply to her shield, she can take any non-phazon hit simply because her shield has enough power to repel any attack. The only reason Phazon damages her is because it doesn’t… damage her per say, Samus absorbs the Phazon based attacks and too much will overload her body with Phazon corruption, giving in to the same thing that got Ghor, Rundus and Gandrayda. Basically the same tactic that you need to use to defeat Dark Samus at the end of Metroid Prime 2.

    @Conductivity:

    Samus’ power suit is as much a spiritual component of her being as it is a surgical grafting. The beings who created it were the Chozo, a race who emphasized a balance between spiritualistic traditions and technological might. Hence why her suit can resist incorporeal attacks and even why certain traits seem almost magical. Depending on how you define ‘Magic’ it might very well be so. It is connected to her conciousness. When she takes it off, it doesn’t teleport to another location, it is reduced to a form of energy and… well, who knows where it is sent. Perhaps absorbed into her body, or placed in a pocket dimension, free for Samus to summon it at will. I believe the ‘exploding’ of the suit we see during the death scenes in Metroid Fusion and Metroid Zero Mission are likely a self defence mechanism meant to stop Samus from being suffocated by a damaged suit or to stop it from falling into the wrong hands.

    After some research into the Screw Attack, I’m not entirly sure about my earlier comment about conductivity. Perhaps variable conductivity depending on the circumstances? Or perhaps Samus expels energy from her shield? The Screw Attack is a sheath of Plasma and Electricity (Essentially, a Mini-Ion Storm), so firing the Ion Cannon at it would likely be useless, unless such a high powered blast overloaded the Screw Attack. At any rate, as I stated above, Samus’ shield can withstand charged Ions on a regular basis due to the nature of Plasma, so her armor’s conductivity is a moot point if her shield blocks them anyway. If her shield fails in the Metroid games she’s dead anyway. So I will never debate the veracity of the Tenloss vaporizing her after the shield is down or the Ion Cannon frying her. It’s just getting to that point that puts Fett at the disadvantage.

    Gravity Suit info: The Gravity Suit protects Samus from every acid besides the tremendously caustic charged acid clouds from Puffers. Granted that Boba’s Darts would eat through Samus in the Varia suit or lower (Acid Rain in Prime 3 dissolves Samus like water on suger), but the Hazard Shield essentialy does what the Gravity Suit does in most other games. I don’t think it’s a stretch to assume that the Gravity Suit would block the caustic rain on the Pirate Homeworld, considering it’s nature in the other games.

    Now about Fett’s Armor: He used two seperate armor’s. His first was composed out of Durasteel, and the second was Mandalorian Iron. If Samus get’s all of her goodies such as the Gravity Suit, then Fett get’s his Mandalorian Iron suit. Mandalorian Iron is quite possibly the strongest metal in the Star Wars universe. Not only is it nearly indesctrutible, but it can even halt a Light Saber blade in it’s tracks. Chances are, Samus won’t be tearing any of these pieces off. As far as weapon effectivness goes, Samus’ best bet would be concussion and electircal attacks. The Power Beam is a questionable one. It’s an Energy Form unlike anything else known, capable of striking incorporeal beings. It isin’t heat based as it doesn’t cause thermal damage, so it most likely does damage through concussive bursts. One shot wouldn’t do much to Fett, but in rapid succession, it might overwhelm his dampeners or destroy a weapon or two. A charged beam might knock him around, but missiles would be more effective. A super missile or Wavebuster would likely be Samus’ best choices. A super Missile would cause massive damage to Boba’s equipment and likely cause injury through the armor. It might even break the bonds holding the armor in place, causing him to lose a plate or two. The WaveBuster is homing regardless of position or composition of the opponent. As such, Boba would be unable to dodge or hide from this blast. Furthermore, any seam in his armor would take the brunt of the electrical damage. Essentially, it would have the same effect on Boba as what you were arguing the Ion Gun would do to Samus, except to much greater effect judging by the Wavebusters ability to cause dog sized creatures to explode.

    Anywho, I have alot more respect for Boba after learning so much about him. I never really considered him much higher then the Films made him out to be. After understanding just what Boba can do, I do believe he has a much better chance of survival then I originally believed. But, I do stand by my belief that he simply doesn’t have the Firepower to take Samus down before she drops the hammer on him.

  89. Who?
    Mar 10 - 12:26 am

    Wow… It appears as though Fett and Samus are meant for eachother. Ha ha! I always thought that.

    “No reason he can’t wear down her shield first, but that’s the whole point of this debate. It wouldn’t be ‘Bang Samus disabled’ but it would be a case of him having to wear down Samus’ tremendously powerful shield.”

    I too beleive this to be the case, as IG-88 took several bombardments from the weapon before he was disabled.

    “Got a bit of new data about the Ion Cannon vs. Samus thing. Plasma is made by charged Ions, in fact, during the Clone Wars the Republic made extensive use of Plasma Weapons because of their effect on Droids. Ridley’s main attacks are indeed Plasma Based, and therefore Ion Based, and hence, nothing Samus hasn’t faced before.”

    Brilliant work! I really am feeling a tingling feeling. Much better than Hotshot or Gamer. You might become the next L-W with this kind of research. But I must disagree to a certain point. Plasma weapons seen Metroid games seem to be designed for short and intense ultra-heated (for Ridley anyway) attacks. While in the Star Wars universe, Plasma weapons could be used in varety of ways, namely what you said about them functioning as a sort of low-powered ion gun or poorer versions of blaster weapons. They tended to malfunction though. But the ion gun, using the element in its most pure raw form, is strictly designed for subdueing or disabling the target. Not a super-heated ray of death, but a way to take out those pesky assassan droids, or power suited badasses. Especially after a classic Fett modification to the weapon. Plus the side effects may include what L-W wrote above. But yes, I agree that Samus’ suit would dampen the effects. But that depends whether or not of what happened in the beginning of Metroid Prime was ion related, or perhaps even concussion. Who knows? Fett’s modified version of this weapon might have this effect, or an equivelent of Ridley’s breath, or mabe even the same effects of a bombu. Hell, mabe a combo of the three. But I’m not a physisist who fully understands this stuff, I’m going to study archeology for crying out loud! Meaning I am most likely incorrect, but I still stand by it. L-W should know these effects better than I since he is studyng physics in collage. But you do give very many valid points Skrunks, that’s why I salute you.

    Now for a quick point concerning the DXR-6. While this bypasses most sheilding straight on, it doesn’t necessarly have to. When it hits the target, as I said, it shakes the target to oblivian. It does so at near the speed of light. Roughly. What you said about Dark Forces and Jedi Knight should be taken as gimmicks strictly for the game, as fighting all who wield this weapon would make completion of the game near impossible. Especially in the showdown with Fett himself. But again, Samus’ suit would probaly dampen the effects, at least to a small degree.

    Yes, Fett is most suceptible to concussions, so super missles and fully charged power beam shots would most likely be effective. But know that even in his old armor Fett survived missle and thermal det attacks. Even in the Gut of the sarlacc with highly potent digestive secretions, etc. pooring on him, he used his jetpack as a bomb at point blank range, which he obviously survived. In his new mandalorian armor,(which could be compared to adamantium) I think his only weaknesses are concussions. In his old armor in the books, the only weapons that really scatched him were if his own weapons were turned against him, as seen in Enemy of the Empire. But I am sure most of Samus’ weapons could be said to equal Fett’s own. Some surpass his, Most of his surpass hers though.

    Also keep in mind that all weapons in Fett’s arsenal have been augmented to their full potential. Heck, Fett’s EE-3 can destroy a heavely armored tank in a single shot as seen in Man With a Mission. While Samus’ suit can take just about any attack, I think Fett’s weapons would cut down her sheilds farely quick. Not to mention his equipment in general might disrupt her visors. I still think Fett has better odds against her, but I always believed this fight could go either way. I’m tired, it’s late, I’m groggy. So at risk of looking like a toltal dumbass, I submint this post.

  90. Skrunks
    Mar 10 - 3:21 am

    :) Thanks for the compliments.

    @Plasma

    The Ion concentration in plasma is directly related to the heat of the Plasma iteself. Those flaming balls of plasma death are naturally highly charged with Ions. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be ‘superheated plasma’. The Plasma weapons Samus has faced almost regularly would have a very similar effect to a dedicated Ion Cannon. I could be wrong, my info is only a basic understanding of Plasma at best, but Samus appears to be immune to the EMP-like effects of an Ion Gun.

    Anywho, if you can possibly get some information about why the Disruptor can pass through a personal shield, we might be able to figure out if it would penetrate Samus’. I simply won’t be convinced that it does until I’m presented with a why.

    E-11 carbine destroying a tank? More info plix. What type of tank, armor, etc. For all I’m aware of, it could have been a shot into open fuel line or something. (Not saying it is, but I’ve never read Man on a mission and I can’t find a plot summary anywhere). Besides, Samus has taken tank-busting caliber weapons before.

  91. AlphaCommando
    Mar 10 - 7:12 am

    I don’t entirely agree with the assumption that Plasma based means Ion based.
    yes plasma releases ions more than capable of toasting alot of electronics. However SW-level Ion weaponry are condensed beams of Ions, its like saying a lightbulb and a laser are the same just because they both give off light….

    Also I don’t strictly remember IG taking several blasts, according to “Tales of the Bounty Hunters” the trap that Boba set up disabled him in one shot from a concealed ion rifle, Fett the proceeded to place a concussion grenade in IG-88c’s (I believe) chest cavity and then just walking away. Sources don’t always work in perfect unison tho….However; I still believe that the Ion rifle would be a fairly effective tool against her shields, might take a few blasts but still, I also believe residual Ionic energy might also damage recharge abilities as we all know what too much static does in high-energy systems…

    I agree with many of Mata and Who?’s decisions (as with the well thought arguments of Skrunks) however we must remember one thing; sticky thermal det…Also; Samus is a womans, and we all know about womans in fights with well trained men, amirite?

    ….anyone?

    …..no?

    ….crap….

    [/failed attempt at humor] (I’ve been watching too much Comedy Central….)

  92. Matapiojo
    Mar 10 - 7:48 am

    “So at risk of looking like a toltal dumbass, I submint this post.”

    Dude, given the “curve” that is most commonly presented in this site for dumbass behavior, I’d say you are well over the threshhold for safety on that post.

  93. Skrunks
    Mar 10 - 3:50 pm

    “however we must remember one thing; sticky thermal det…Also; Samus is a womans, and we all know about womans in fights with well trained men, amirite?”

    So Samus sacks Boba then points and laughs? :D

    Anyway, the Ion Plasma isin’t an assumption, it’s physics. The temperature of the plasma directly correlates to the Ion concentration. The cold-plasma used in TVs for example have as low as 1% concentration. But to have a superheated plasma that can kill a target (For example SW Plasma weapons) you already have enough energy to fry a droid. As I said earlier, in the Clone Wars the Republic made extensive use of Plasma blasters because of the ionizing effect they have on droids. It’s hard to apply real-world physics to science-fantasy like this, but it’s logical to come to the conclusion that the tremendously powerful Plasma blasts from the Omega Pirate or Ridley (ranging a full order of magnitude higher in destructive power then the republic Plasma weapons) would have a significantly more potent Ion concentration then even the concentrated Ion Blasts from an Ion Gun. Taking into account Fett’s personal modifications, the EM effects of his Ion Gun probably wouldn’t be worse then Ridley’s plasma blasts.

    And sticky Thermal Detonators? I think that if Samus wen’t Morph Ball and boosted, it might let her get away before that thing went off. Morph Ball has been shown to reliably free Samus from most ‘sticky’ type things that don’t totally envelop Samus.

  94. Who?
    Mar 10 - 5:44 pm

    “Also I don’t strictly remember IG taking several blasts, according to “Tales of the Bounty Hunters” the trap that Boba set up disabled him in one shot from a concealed ion rifle, Fett the proceeded to place a concussion grenade in IG-88c’s (I believe) chest cavity and then just walking away. Sources don’t always work in perfect unison tho….However; I still believe that the Ion rifle would be a fairly effective tool against her shields, might take a few blasts but still, I also believe residual Ionic energy might also damage recharge abilities as we all know what too much static does in high-energy systems…”

    I don’t know… Correct me if I’m wrong, but diddn’t the trap consist of two tripod mounted ion cannons? From what I recall, IG-88 was hit left and right by the trap set by Fett that left him immoble. Fett then emmerged from the shadows with his beefed up ion gun and slamed a shot at the hulk of a machine (keep in mind that IG-88 weighs several metric tons, so a weapon that would throw him accross the room undoubtedly packs a punch.) But even after that assault, 88’s optics functioned long enough to witness the irony you just said. Now, Whether or not 88 can stand a single shot without a barrage of lesser cannons is beyond me.

    “E-11 carbine destroying a tank? More info plix. What type of tank, armor, etc. For all I’m aware of, it could have been a shot into open fuel line or something. (Not saying it is, but I’ve never read Man on a mission and I can’t find a plot summary anywhere). Besides, Samus has taken tank-busting caliber weapons before.”

    Well, considering it’s an EE-3, it has a much higher degree of firepower. A typical EE-3 obviously doesn’t house that degree of firepower, but from what Fett does to most of his weapons it isn’t a stretch of the imagination that it can be set to “overkill.” See what I did there? It’s the name of the comic. Anyway, it’s not plot relevent to the story, so I doubt you could look it up unless you found the book. But there is a picture on Wookiepedia that shows him attacking the site. But it being a fuel refinery, mabe it was caught in a blast. But it clearly shows Fett firing a single shot at the tank, which resembles a mini world devastator with large spheracle treads. But the main reason I brought up the matter in the first place was that the EE-3 is Fett’s primary weapon, with lower firepower than most of his higher weapons. So… You can see where I’m getting at, right? Of coarse you do.

    “Anywho, if you can possibly get some information about why the Disruptor can pass through a personal shield, we might be able to figure out if it would penetrate Samus’. I simply won’t be convinced that it does until I’m presented with a why.”

    I will let the whole “bypass most sheilding” thing slide for the time being. I can’t find the proper info on any sites concerning those facts to convince you other than the Essential Guides. However, I still stand by the fact that, regardless of the sheild, the modified disruptor can and still will shake the target at speeds close to or past that of light. Even with her shinspark capabilties, I highly doubt she could survive this weapon.

    “yes plasma releases ions more than capable of toasting alot of electronics. However SW-level Ion weaponry are condensed beams of Ions, its like saying a lightbulb and a laser are the same just because they both give off light….”

    I fully agree as you might have guessed.

    “Dude, given the “curve” that is most commonly presented in this site for dumbass behavior, I’d say you are well over the threshhold for safety on that post.”

    Thanks Mata Man, I needed that.

    So in conclusion, I still stand by Fett for holding a little more cards.

  95. Locutus
    Mar 10 - 6:30 pm

    “In the case of Boba Fett’s death, had I known he was gonna turn into such a popular character, I probably would’ve made it a little bit more exciting.
    Boba Fett was just another one of the minions, another one of the bounty hunters and badguys. But, he became such a favorite of everybody’s that, for having such a small part, uh he had a very large presence. And now that his history has been told in the first trilogy, y’know, it makes it even more of a misstep that we wouldn’t make more out of the event of his defeat, because most people don’t believe he died anyway.
    I’d contemplated putting in that extra shot in where he climbs out of the hole, but y’know I figure that’s . . . it doesn’t quite fit, in the end.”

    – George Lucas, Flannelled One, Sept. 2004, RoTJ DVD

    Sorry guys. Boba Fett’s story ended in the Sarlacc pit.

  96. Skrunks
    Mar 10 - 9:35 pm

    Oops, I meant to say EE-3 carbine. I’d appreciate a direct link to the image, I can’t seem to find it on Wookiepedia.

    @Ion Gun. Perhaps my earlier post hadn’t appeared when you began yours Who? I discussed the Ion thing in detail, but you made no mention of it in your latest post.

    @Disruptor: In any of the Metroid games, if Samus’ shield fails then she’s toast anyway. I won’t debate that she would be fried from a direct hit when she’s unshielded. Perhaps when you read ‘pierces all shielding’ it was reffering to armor? Armor is technically a type of shielding, and personal force fields are quite rare in Star Wars. If you would be kind enough to actually type out the ‘Essential Guide’ info (assuming it’s a canon source) I’d be most appreciative. But like I said, the disruptor bolt is still just a blast of EM energy, something Samus’ personal shield has been known to block quite well.

  97. L-W
    Mar 10 - 9:42 pm

    “Sorry guys. Boba Fett’s story ended in the Sarlacc pit.”

    Not according to the EU it’s not.

  98. Who?
    Mar 10 - 10:26 pm

    “Oops, I meant to say EE-3 carbine. I’d appreciate a direct link to the image, I can’t seem to find it on Wookiepedia.”

    Don’t sweat it man, I probaly make more mistakes like that than you. As I said before, it’s not an image of the tank being blown up, but right before it. I mentioned how I’m not computer savvy, but I will give you the info to look up the image. Just go to Wookiepedia and punch in either the “battle of Troska,” or “Refinery Six-Two-Two.” But to remind you, it’s him attacking the site in general, not the tank being shot. Mabe If you go to DarkHorse.com you can look up the image? I don’t know. But I can assure that the image exists.

    “Perhaps my earlier post hadn’t appeared when you began yours Who? I discussed the Ion thing in detail, but you made no mention of it in your latest post.”

    Yeah, your post diddn’t show in time. Sorry about that. I think your research is very impressive. I’m not sure if I can counter it yet, But I nonetheless will come up with more theorys on the matter. But I will give you that for now. Ridley breath it is then, which by no means is a pushover breath. Smelly too.

    “In any of the Metroid games, if Samus’ shield fails then she’s toast anyway. I won’t debate that she would be fried from a direct hit when she’s unshielded. Perhaps when you read ‘pierces all shielding’ it was reffering to armor? Armor is technically a type of shielding, and personal force fields are quite rare in Star Wars. If you would be kind enough to actually type out the ‘Essential Guide’ info (assuming it’s a canon source) I’d be most appreciative. But like I said, the disruptor bolt is still just a blast of EM energy, something Samus’ personal shield has been known to block quite well.”

    Hmm… Perhaps there is a site out on the web that might be all about the Essential Guides. But I havn’t found it yet. I guess tou could go to a book store and find it. But putting aside most the support I’ve given it, go to the Master Chief vs Boba Fett thread and read all of L-W’s posts.
    He not only gives info about this weapon, but a lot of Fett’s arsenal and armor. From what you say about the sheild being Samus’ life force in general, (not to mention the grafting of the armor to her body) this weapon would most likley be one of Fett’s many advantages. Not to say Samus’ advantages can’t be stacked against Fett, but Fett is a tricky one as you well know by now. There are many of his weapons and tools that could really be effective against Samus.

    I’ve been meaning to ask you a question in particuler. What are your thoughts on what happened to the suit during the intro of Metroid Prime? Did a seveir concussion blast revert it? Highly ionised blast? Or somthing completely different? Either way, I never knew of the matter. So, if would be so kind as to shed some light, much would be obliged.

    Sorry for the treasure hunt, but it makes things more fun, right? The only thing I can do is give my word and these directions through the net. Apologies.

  99. Who?
    Mar 10 - 11:15 pm

    Well, I’ll let you sort this out with your new playmates Skrunks. I really should be getting back to my life for the time being. Rest assured though, I will most likely come back after I want to momentarely lose all track of reality or simply want to seek out a fun arguement. And by then I will have more formable knowledge on the Fett man. But for now, I bid you TTFN. (Activates spring loaded boots and vanishes with a single jump)

  100. Locutus
    Mar 11 - 1:24 am

    “Not according to the EU it’s not.”

    It is according to Lucas.

    Star Wars Canon:
    Lucas > EU

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