Thor Vs Darth Nihilus Vs Ghost Rider Vs Spawn Vs Sauron

Ghost Rider Vs Spawn Vs Sauron Vs Darth Nihilus Vs Thor

Sweet combat match to go into the weekend. I think the best matches are the ones were a clear winner is obvious from the onset. If I had to place a wager, I’m tempted to go with Darth Nihilus, but would place it on Thor FTW.

Your thoughts?

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82 Comments on "Thor Vs Darth Nihilus Vs Ghost Rider Vs Spawn Vs Sauron"

  1. marche January 30, 2009 at 3:19 pm -      #1

    well spawn cant die…
    i think it could be between GR and spawn.

    nihilus- can speak and drain the others,but i heard the force can be resisted using willpower,if i am wrong please correct me.
    thor – will a powerful force isnt completely immortal,he probably would get killed eventually.
    sauron – i know little about so if smeone can inform me otherwise

  2. x on January 30, 2009 at 3:23 pm -      #2

    I don’t know who will win tho i do know when i see somthing thats so epic that i don’t know…

  3. Baron Somebody January 30, 2009 at 4:38 pm -      #3

    Only Mind Tricks can be resisted…but anyway…I’m really not sure lol

  4. Tim January 30, 2009 at 5:29 pm -      #4

    I think Sauron would win this fight.

  5. JoshMcFace January 30, 2009 at 7:40 pm -      #5

    Marche, Sauron is most importantly immortal, being a spirit from before the dawn of time who had a part in creation of the universe, though he is not invulnerable. His spirit cannot be destroyed and can eventually form new bodies (untill the end of LOTR, in which he bounds his spirit to the ring. Although he had ‘died’ before this). The original Sauron could take any shape (he looses this ability in LOTR), and was an all round sorcerer. At first, he was chief lieutenant to Morgoth (creator of all evil, tainted reality etc…Satan basically). He can bend even the strongest wills, and put people, even fellow spirits, under his power and transform them. There are references to an ability similar to a ‘force crush’ although shows of fighting magic aren’t widely shown in Tolkein’s novels. When taking his evil forms, Sauron had immense strength and skill in weaponry, although I don’t think he could win this one…
    Hope this is all right :)

  6. The One Sin January 30, 2009 at 7:55 pm -      #6

    Well, just a guesstimation but here iss the order of defeat from what I gather: sauron is beaten by thor, thor is beaten by darth nihilus, spawn will beat darth nihilus, and after a long and epic battle I think Ghost rider will beat spawn.

  7. Jwlynas January 30, 2009 at 10:50 pm -      #7

    Nihulus, as the only mortal, dies first

    Sauron gets smacked down by thor
    Ghost rider and Spawn… Spawn is more powerful. Spawn wins.

    So Spawn versus Thor….

  8. puffinslaughter January 30, 2009 at 11:31 pm -      #8

    ghost rider would probaly win cos he can lure spawn to the “greenzone” if you dont know what that is, search it up on wikipedia

  9. flyboy51 January 30, 2009 at 11:39 pm -      #9

    Did i come up with this match? If i did it was a looong time ago and i dont remember. lol I think GR would take down Sauron and Nihilus with the penance stare, if he managed to get the chance that is…but I think, in the end, its going to come down to Spawn and Thor.

  10. =[BF]=JimmieRox January 30, 2009 at 11:48 pm -      #10

    Thor couldn’t handle Sauron, for one reason, unless this fight takes place on the slopes of Mount Doom then Sauron is immortal and will keep coming back. Not only that but he can, if he so choses, gain perfect invisibility from the ring. I say perfect because the unskilled wielders like Bilbo and Frodo still have a shadow. Not only that but Sauron stands massively tall (two or three times the height of an elf or man) and wields a mace comprable to , if not better than, Mjolnir and is the greatest of the Maiar. Not only that but Sauron has magic on his side, it is likely that he is more versed in th art than the Witch King, and has been called the Wizard and it is believed that he was the Necromancer.

    To be honest, even if one of them does banish Sauron’s spirit to the Void then he will return at the end of time with his full powers. Also, Nihilus, in my opinion, would be able to drain the life force from Thor using the Force but all the others in the battle have unlimited life force, being immortal, so it would only affect Thor. Now Spawn and Ghost Rider have pretty similar powers with the main difference seeming to be that apparently Ghost Rider is more powerful, even having been lauded as having the abilities to defeat the Hulk but refusing to because the Illuminati weren’t innocents. The notable exception to this is when Spawn ate a fruit from the Tree of Life and became almost omnipotent. The problem is that by the end, after Armegeddon, he was severly reduced in power and had none of the Legion left. However, even if Spawn has a Fruit of Life I think he would have a hard time beating Sauron and Ghost Rider.

    So, to conclude, I think Thor or Nihilus falls first, with the other one coming next. Then Spawn goes next leaving Ghost Rider facing off against Sauron with Sauron coming out on top. Pure conjecture on the last three, but it depends on the whereabouts of each character on their specific timline, for example if Sauron was still at the peak of his powers and could shapeshift then the others would be in serious trouble. Also, if Spawn gets the Legion then Sauron gets the Nine.

  11. =[BF]=JimmieRox January 31, 2009 at 1:00 am -      #11

    “Like all Asgardians, Thor is not truly immortal but relies upon periodic consumption of the Golden Apples of Idunn to sustain his lifespan”

    From Wikipedia, Thor isn’t immortal, see =p

  12. the cheerful whale January 31, 2009 at 6:14 am -      #12

    it would come down to rider and spawn i think if spawn has a soul then rider wins if not spawn takes riders skull and uses it as an ashtray

  13. Space marine January 31, 2009 at 8:51 am -      #13

    Magic>>force? I wonder if thats so.

  14. The One Sin January 31, 2009 at 9:23 am -      #14

    “Excuse me? Thor is beaten by Dath Nihilus? nyahahahaha!!!! i could use a laugh on that…..”

    Are you saying thor is immortal? If you are I could use a laugh on that. Thor consumes the golden apples and Idunn to prolong his life, his natural life. He can be physically beaten and I do believe darth nihilus can handle it. If you want you can prove me wrong with evidence instead of another nyahahahaha.

    As for the immortal characters, Being immortal doesn’t mean you are invincible, it could only mean you won’t die of old age. Someone must lose and considering what I know of each character I’m still pretty sure Ghost rider will still win.

  15. Tissuecoster January 31, 2009 at 9:41 am -      #15

    Sauron is oldest and so wins :)

  16. marche January 31, 2009 at 10:10 am -      #16

    well thor can throw his hammer faster than lightspeed,or just send him to another dimension,or stop time.

  17. Matapiojo January 31, 2009 at 10:52 am -      #17

    What an awesomely interesting match. Im not gonna jump into who wins or who looses yet. Instead, I’ll focus on possible scenarios on how these individuals match-up against one another. I’ll start with my goldenboy, of course:

    Ghost Rider – There are two individuals that while not easy, the Rider has a clear advantage over. Spawn and Thor would be fully affected by the Rider’s Penance Stare, possibly removing those two from the fight as they are left in eternal Torment.

    Nihilus would be a mighty challennge. However, I’m not sure that his Force powers would affect Ghost Rider very well as he is not a living being. The Spirit of Vengeance would laugh off most Force intrussions, and the ones that could have an effect (mostly the offensive attacks from effects surrounding the Rider) could be shrugged off as he reconstitues after the damage is done. In the end, Ghost Rider may win a firght with the Sith lord out of pure attrition.

    Now comes the REAL challenge, Sauron. Much like himself, the dark over-fiend of Middle Earth is an ethereal form that forms manifest upon the material realm via a “host”. While the Rider has a human host, Sauron has the One Ring. Now, this is a point of pure speculation, but IMO each one of these two has the capacity to first sever the connection to the material anchor of the other, then blocking it…effectively removing the combatant from the fight if not from the mortal real eternally.

    Still going down the path of supposition, Sauron MIGHT have an advantage. Although the Ghost Rider “switches” places with his host, should sauron sever the conection via his magical repertoire, he could simply kill Blaze. However, this is only an advantage because I do not know the details of the Ring. I’m hoping someone else could shed some light.

    Could the One Ring be damaged by Helfire much like the flames of Mt. Doom? Meaning, is the ring damaged from any mystical flame, or must it specifically be from the fires of its “furnace”. Im leaning towards the latter, but if the former is true then the Rider could possibly win that exchange as Sauron is made manifest from wielding the ring itself.

    Unlike the Rider and Blaze, Sauron’s anchor is made vulnerable at the same time the over-fiend is present. Sure, it would be hard for the Rider to know this weakness in the first place, but it matters little if he can envelop the entire figure in his furious Hellfire.


    Sauron – A terrible beast indeed. His immense magical power will be the end of most…until they find out his weakness. Remove the One Ring from the corporeal manifestation, and its over for the fiend (at least for this fight). Sure he could keep coming back while the Ring persists, but really, he would not be an issue once he is neutralized.

    If his weakness is not discovered, I’m certain he will be the supreme victor. Yet, there are two that are PERHAPS capable of destroying Sauron’s anchor to the material realm. Should the One Ring be affected by any mystical flame, both the Ghost Rider and Spawn may be able to completely remove the threat of the over-fiend without needing to put two and two together. All they do is melt absolutely everything on Sauron’s persona. Not a good day for the dark forces of Middle Earth, but I’ll leave you all to be the judges of that particular detail.


    Spawn – Who cares? All he ever does is mope around on how bad he has it.

    ……fine, fine. Lets see. He was once very powerful, but had an extremely limiter “battery” life. That was removed. He then gained the powers of Earth itself, conquering and re-inventing hell. Again, removed. It looks like he is back to square one. Of all the contestants here, I believe he is the weakest at his current state. He might cause enough damage to Nihilus and/or Thor for the thers to finish the job, but in all honestly I think he will be the first cassualty.


    Thor – The mighty Asgardian might be able to bring some impressive destruction the likes the other have never seen by conjuring up the worst possible Thunder Storm to smite his foes from a healthy distance. Should that not work, he can always just project his awesome lightning might at a closer range where his attacks are the strongest. However, I think all his oponents have protection from this sort of assault one way or another.

    S’all good. Thats why he has Mjolnir. This weapon alone could reduce all others to smoldering dust, and the Asgardian knows how to use it to deadly effect. Out of all the fighters, I think Nihilus might be the only one capable of besting him in close combat.

    Thor might be particularly vulnerable to GR’s Penance Stare. If he lets his guard down and he’s caught off guard, thats it. Game Over. His only salvation would be his control of the Odinforce. If Odin can remove all of humanity to another dimension, Thor could probably do the same to John Blaze even if the Rider is the one present in the material realm. Removing the Rider’s anchor might completely remove this oponent from the fight, but given how the Rider’s host is already removed from this dimenssion, this might be a moot point.

    There really is no telling the true limits of the Odinforce, which Thor seems reluctant to use as shown by his slow resurection of his people until he was convinced to bring them all back. The Odinforce might be the trump card that finishes this match with absolute authority.


    Darth Nihilus – The scaries mofo of the bunch. There is no telling how much of a threat this man trully is. The Force is a very mysterious thing, the Dark Side even more so, and he is arguably the one man that has displayed the most power out of all Force users.

    He is known for killing others by simply speaking the word, but this particular weapon might not be usefull here as 3 of his opponents cant die, and the last has a dormant omnipotent force within him. I think he will have to resort to causing mayhem and destruction.

    He is capable of defeating all combatants if engaged to a hand to hand exchange. He is capable of obliterating most with strong Force attacks. However, it will be nigh impossible to determine how the Force interacts with the Odinforce, Mystic Hellfire, Hellspawn Magic, or Middle Earth Sorcery. I say he is in equal standing to Sauron, but without having a means of imortality as the over-fiend has via the One Ring of Power.


    I am aware that most of my post is speculation with a healthy dose of favoritism. I am more than open to hear clarifications/validations to every and all points I tried to make.

    I will save my vote for the time being.

  18. Marche January 31, 2009 at 1:37 pm -      #18

    spawn can only be killed by beheading him with a weapon from heaven.
    unless anyone else here has a heavenly weapon weapon no one here would kill him.granted this might be a no-limits fallacy but it would take an immensely powerful force to by-pass that.

  19. The One Sin January 31, 2009 at 2:14 pm -      #19

    “immensely powerful force to by-pass that.”

    how about hellfire?

  20. Matapiojo January 31, 2009 at 2:17 pm -      #20

    “spawn can only be killed by beheading him with a weapon from heaven.
    unless anyone else here has a heavenly weapon weapon no one here would kill him.granted this might be a no-limits fallacy but it would take an immensely powerful force to by-pass that.”

    ……..The Spirits of Vengeance are weapons from heaven, so whats your point?

    In addition:

    “Spawn? well, he can be defeated unless the Violator irritates him in battle, I would like to disagree on what Matapiojo stated that he is the weakest”

    Ghost rider has defeated Mephisto, Black heart, and Satan. Bring it on Simmons.

  21. JoshMcFace January 31, 2009 at 2:18 pm -      #21

    Sauron is a heavenly spirit, and has a magical mace, sword etc…does that count??

  22. aslan January 31, 2009 at 2:20 pm -      #22

    sauron almost took over all of middle earth but as it always happens good wins over evil against all odds…and hes immortal being a spirit…idk he stands a good chance

  23. JoshMcFace January 31, 2009 at 2:21 pm -      #23

    And the ring can only be destroyed in Mt. Doom, where it was made. Nowhere else or by any other means. Great post btw

  24. marche January 31, 2009 at 3:10 pm -      #24

    “The Spirits of Vengeance are weapons from heaven, so whats your point?”
    like i said in my first post,it would be between GR and Spawn since GR has the weapon to do it.but i ddint know that spawn was de-powered.

  25. marche January 31, 2009 at 3:11 pm -      #25

    “Sauron is a heavenly spirit, and has a magical mace, sword etc…does that count??”

    well i guess,like i said i dont know much about Sauron,so maybe things are different.

  26. =[BF]=JimmieRox January 31, 2009 at 5:44 pm -      #26

    Still think Sauron has it, but only just. If you take away the Ring then Sauron becomes a truly teriffying prospect. You just sent Sauron back to the time when he was Melkor’s greatest servant, second only in combat to Gothmog. Basically, the Sauron of the First Age has no weaknesses like ‘cut off his hand and he dies’ style weaknesses, he can shapeshift and some of his forms were “terrible to behold”. Also, I doubt Nihilus’ Force powers can compare to Sauron’s sorcery, I don’t know for sure but thats my guess.

  27. THe Chosen One February 1, 2009 at 12:21 am -      #27

    Nihilus can dish out some damage but he cant take it hes done. Sauron’s armor and felsh can be cleaved by a magical mortal weapon how would he stand against magical immortal weapons ghost riders chans or thors hammer. Id say sauron would die too. I dont know anything about spawn so i wont argue against him or for him. As much as Id like to see Thor win this Ghost Rider can just burn his soul.

  28. megafire February 1, 2009 at 11:55 am -      #28

    I would just like to say that not being able to kill him does not mean that you can’t defeat him, strip him of his powers and lock him away in a cage for all eternity.

  29. Baron Somebody February 1, 2009 at 1:47 pm -      #29

    You guys all underestimate Nihilus, he could tear them all in half using the Force…now I know it won’t do much to Ghost Rider but what if he levitated Spawn then tore his head off with the Force?

  30. =[BF]=JimmieRox February 1, 2009 at 2:39 pm -      #30

    “Id say sauron would die too”

    Sorry, feeling lazy, check posts 11 and 18. The worst you can do to Sauron is banish him to the void to await the Dagor Dagorath, or the Battle at the End of Time, when Melkor himself shall rise again to lead the forces of Evil.

  31. =[BF]=JimmieRox February 1, 2009 at 3:03 pm -      #31

    Ahh, one last thing. according to the Top Trump’s stats for the Return of the King they give Sauron the maximum ability with magic even in his weakend state. Now if we assume we are using the Sauron from the Last Alliance then how much more powerful would his rating be!

  32. flyboy51 February 1, 2009 at 3:08 pm -      #32

    Spawn can regenerate…plus hes undead isnt he?

  33. Matapiojo February 2, 2009 at 6:54 am -      #33

    “Spawn can regenerate…plus hes undead isnt he?”

    Last I read (and it was a while ago), I was under the impression he was unable to regenerate. What he COULD do is expend some of his demonic power to reconstitute himself, but never able to fix his hell-deformed figure.

    As for the undead question, its hard for me to tell what spawn is. Demon, undead, whatever. Does it really make a difference on the outcome of the fight? In his current state he IS the weakest of the five.

  34. Thepocalypse February 2, 2009 at 7:04 pm -      #34

    It would probably come down to Sauron VS Thor pretty quickly, Spawn might still be on his feet though. I’m guessing Sauron would win if he was at maximum power with the Ring, but any lapse in power and Thor could strike him down. It would be interesting to see if any of the others could heft Mjolnir.

  35. JoshMcFace February 3, 2009 at 11:25 am -      #35

    If it came down to Sauron vs Nihilus at some point, it would be so retardedly evil!! Nihilus: “Deeeeaaaaath….”
    Sauron: “DEEEEEEEEEEATH!!!!”

  36. fooby February 3, 2009 at 6:06 pm -      #36

    nihulluis eats their sould but is killed by ghost rider cuz he has no soul

  37. Just A Gamer February 5, 2009 at 3:40 pm -      #37

    This is a very hard battle to choose a clear victor, however my vote goes to Nihilus simply because I believe his level of power vastly overwhelms every other contestant in spite of the fact that he is mortal.

  38. Miranda V February 5, 2009 at 11:47 pm -      #38

    Wow, i never thought about it like that :)

  39. JoshMcFace February 6, 2009 at 1:03 pm -      #39

    Is he really mortal though?? He kind of became a manifestation of dark energy in a mask. He’s more mortal than the rest, but isn’t really just a simple mortal.

  40. JoshMcFace February 6, 2009 at 1:03 pm -      #40

    And he could have limited immortality if he was able to transfer his conscience to another body. But that might be outside the rules 😛

  41. Matapiojo February 6, 2009 at 2:12 pm -      #41

    “But that might be outside the rules”

    Not necessarily. Explain this power or give reference.

  42. Baron Somebody February 6, 2009 at 8:26 pm -      #42

    Well with Nihilus he is basically just a ghost holding his robes and such together…anyway I think he wins he could drive them all crazy

  43. Baron Somebody February 6, 2009 at 8:26 pm -      #43

    With the exception of Ghost Rider that is

  44. JoshMcFace February 7, 2009 at 7:12 am -      #44

    “Explain this power or give reference.”
    I was referring to the power that the Emperor used to transfer his conscience to another body. This required another cloned body though, and I’m only assuming that Nihilus has this ability, as he is one of the most powerful force users ever to exist. After his death, you do see the energy that inhabits his clothes fly upward. Maybe it could simply inhabit another robe. I’m not sure though, I don’t know too much about Star Wars etc.

  45. Matapiojo February 7, 2009 at 1:24 pm -      #45


    I was hoping for something a little more concrete. You just gave me what would be your personal interpretation of an even in hopes that that particular mechanic leads to another ability demonstrated by an altogether diferent character. By my own interpretation, that energgy excaping upwards is just the Force balancing itself after his death.

    That particular example is too open to interpretation and speculation to trully be considered. Until we see his return elsewhere (not at all impossible), I don’t think we can claim him to be immortal.

    As opposed to the other four fighters whom we HAVE seen return from certain doom.

  46. JoshMcFace February 8, 2009 at 8:18 am -      #46

    I know….I said it was an assumption. I’m not arguing that he’d win anyway, I still think Sauron would come out on top.

  47. The Chosen One February 8, 2009 at 10:04 am -      #47

    Admin i must ask what stage is Sauron at having just read up on him there are many stages.

  48. admin February 8, 2009 at 12:51 pm -      #48

    @The Chosen One: For this argument – the Second Age

  49. =[BF]=JimmieRox February 10, 2009 at 4:34 pm -      #49

    So Sauron for the win then? Or Ghost Rider? One of the two, however seeing as Sauron has no conscience the penance stare wouldn’t affect him.

  50. Matapiojo February 10, 2009 at 6:18 pm -      #50

    I am leaning towards Sauron as well for the final victory.

  51. OMG ITS A SPARTAN!!! February 18, 2009 at 12:13 am -      #51

    okay it would be down to Sauron and Gr. if were talking about the people who become the GR they would not not be immortal leaving Sauron being the only TRUE immortal but if were talking about the Gr himself and not the “hosts” then i would no who would win mind putting that in terms admin? the first one or the latter?

  52. El Zilcho February 28, 2009 at 5:15 am -      #52

    Just a bit of information on the One Ring

    The One Ring is a bit of a double edged sword for Sauron. Sauron originally hoped to use it to dominate anyone else who wore a ring of power. However, the existing rings of power were extremely potent, so Sauron needed to pour great amount of his own power into the ring to do this, which is why his spirit is linked to it.

    While wearing it, Sauron actually becomes stronger, so he is stronger (in both magical ability and physical strength) then he was during the first under Morgoth. And as most people know he can not be truly destroyed while the One Ring still exists. The best known example is when Isildur failed to destroy One Ring after he acquired it at the end of the Second Age.

    However a better example of his ability to survive would be the destruction of Numenor. Essentially what happened was that Iluvatar (the God of Gods so to speak) destroyed the Isle of Numenor after Sauron had corrupted the majority of the Numenoreans and their King, Ar-Pharazon II, and had convinced them to try and seize immortality from the Valar. Iluvatar obliterated the Isle of Numenor while Sauron was on it, but he survived because the One Ring survived. Thus none of the other contestants in this match could kill Sauron without first destroying the Ring first (well do that and he dies anyway, or at least is left incredibly weak).

  53. Jam. March 2, 2009 at 4:51 am -      #53

    Hey guys. This comes down to some of my favorite characters, GR and Sauron. Ok we have established it’s second age sauron but which rider is it? the original blaze with zathros? Zathros himself? danny ketch? spirit of vengence? blaze with spirit of vengeance? in any case my choice is the rider:
    zathros is a demon by himself he is as immortal as sauron and if defeated can crawl straight back out of hell. Also in the original ghostrider series ghostrider surrounded the hulk in hellfire so he would run out of oxygen so if sauron needs oxygen…. ghostrider is also the fastest being in this battle (original series he beat death in a race to save innocent people). so lets run a scenario from our new ghostrider info… ghostrider on his bike could circle sauron encasing him in hellfire from a distance making him fall unconscious, then ghostrider could take the ring and before sauron had time to gather any kind of army ghostrider would be watching the ring fall into the abyss. that’s just one strategy. Ok lets say ghostrider loses his bike, ghostrider also has the ability to create a bike entirely of hellfire. One concern would be the struggle johnny blaze would have throwing the ring into the fire, with him inevitably battling zathros his inner demon to throw it. just my opinion folks!

  54. Bobby March 31, 2009 at 2:47 pm -      #54

    as for the the spawn series being defunct, the ghost rider series, as well as the thor series is as well. All three series remain inconsistent, and are absolutely ridicules.

    I personally believe the it would wind up with Spawn, Ghost rider, and Nihilus in the final 3. Ghost rider would wind up being null due to spawn either:
    a)teleporting him to hell, or somewhere inescapable since ghost rider does not have a teleportation ability, As for spawn vs. nihilus, I’m not sure. I’d go with spawn, but that’s kind of up in the air for me.

  55. kniget April 21, 2009 at 4:41 pm -      #55

    IMO it would come down to Nihilus and Sauron, first because Nihilus can kill people with a thought so there goes Spawn and Thor, GR would be more difficult, but since neither Sauron nor Nihilus technically have eyes to look into he would be useless. Sauron i think would win because theres only one place that he can be defeated, on Mt Doom and he would just have to overpower Nihilus.

  56. Grim August 23, 2009 at 9:50 pm -      #56

    as long as its not the one played by Nick Cage then Ghost Rider for my vote

  57. bors October 22, 2009 at 11:23 pm -      #57

    wow thats an awesome debate my opinion damn so hard to choose i vote spawn but he and ghost rider have their own limits but spawn vs ghost rider spawn wins
    sauron vs nihilus humm i can’t decide

  58. C.A.W. February 12, 2010 at 1:44 am -      #58

    The type of body hopping that was previously describe was most famously used by Palpatine, by preserving his spirit through the force he was able to place his spirit back into clones of himself. Go to for more info. It is unlikely that Nihilus would know of such an ability or capable of using solely on what Nihilus had become via the use of his power.

    Nihilus’ power is a double edged sword, while the nature of his powers effectively make him immortal so long as he has life energy to feed upon. His power is something that while he is capable of directing it, it is also a passive ability his meer presence allows him to feed upon the life energies around him and to subvert those within his presence, and the longer someone is in his presence the more severe the effects. This makes him particularly strong against character like Thor, Sauron and Spawn. All three have someform of life energy or something equivalent that Nihilus would be able to drain, and seeing as how some of these characters are actually entities such as Sauron who doesn’t run out it would essentially mean that Nihilus would have a constant source to feed from and the longer he feeds and the more powerful his opponent the more powerful he would become. This also means that because his ability to exist is more based upon the energy he has, then a flesh body, harm to the physical body would not be an issue so long as he could sustain himself with the Force.

    The weakness of this is that if he is unable to feed on sufficiantly strong people than he becomes incredibly weak to the point where he has trouble sustaning himself. This also means that agains an opponent that cannot be fed upon in this manner either through some sort of defense, in the case of the Exile, or not having one in the case of the Ghost Rider and in cases where his draining ability fails he becomes extremely vulnerable. Additional information can be found at:

    So from this info I would say that he would beable to win against Spawn and Thor who have a limit, and draw against Sauron because neither would be able to really kill the other, Nihilus would be constantly draining Sauron, Sauron’s life force is constant. The fight against Ghost Rider could go either way, if Nihilus opens with drain, which is highly likely, he would be left weakened and killable. Now if he is able to sense that Ghost Rider does not have a life force that it is likely that Nihilus would shelf the drain as an actuall attack and move on to attacks that could cause serious physical damage to the Ghost Rider.

    For this fight I don’t really see a clear and true victor. Each character has abilities that make them strong against one character but weak against another. Though my knowledge is rather limited when it come to Spawn, Thor and Ghost Rider, I am far more familiar with Darth Nihilus and Sauron and felt that no one was really giving Nihilus a clear description of his abilities. So if anyone has additional information about the comic book character and can provide sources that could sway my opinion that would be appreciated.

  59. Jackson February 23, 2010 at 8:54 am -      #59

    Wookieepedia says that Nihilus did transfer his conciousness to another body upon death.

    “Lord Nihilus, you escaped death by containing your consciousness within your armor. How?!”
    ―Darth Krayt

    Dunno if it really helps his case but just thought I’d show it to answer Matapojo on post 44.

  60. sapper007 February 23, 2010 at 9:13 am -      #60

    I agree… Sauron cant be beat by Thor… read my post one Cloud vs link vs kratos vs thor vs rand vs rahl vs thor vs sauron, for my reasons why…

    so long as the ring survives he cant be beat… and the only one able to make the trip on his own to middle earth(assuming its on a different planet of course) would be thor…

    and while i doubt the corrupting abilities of the ring would be effective on Spawn, im pretty sure the rest are up for grabs…

  61. Darkbladex96 February 23, 2010 at 11:44 am -      #61

    in all seriousness spawn wipes the floor with all of them very easily..
    after issue 100 of spawn his power was unlimited and after issue 161 he became nigh-omnipotent his power was so great he exiled God and Satan to a false earth realm, killed every angel demon and human, then ressurected all of humanity. and that’s just a fraction of his power.

    his power is limited only by his imagination, which WAS limited by his magic reserves but he literally has unlimited and infinite stats, including immortality of the likes none of these characters can handle. spawn can teleport as far away from earth as he wants to hell, to heaven, or anywhere he has knowledge of which is hard to say because of his power.
    spawn is one of the few characters not subject to the “no limits fallacy” he is literally one of those characters who can say “no” and the fight is over.

  62. Matapiojo February 23, 2010 at 12:02 pm -      #62

    Spawn no longer has that power level. Moot point.

    On top of that, that particular hellspawn you argument for, Al Simmons, is dead. Hellspawns may have a good power to claim an upper tier arsenal, but they are all heavily flawed by their once mortal psyches. This is why they go on “training” for so long. They may be able to do a lot of things, but that doesn’t mean they actually have knowledge as to how.

    Simmons has resurfaced as the Omega Spawn. Poor creativity aside, this is as much a different character as the different Hulk personas are. The Al Simmons Spawn in this battle stands no chance against the might of Thor, Sauron, and the perfect demon-killing machine known as Ghost Rider who is really an OHKO against these sort of beings.

  63. Darkbladex96 February 23, 2010 at 12:14 pm -      #63

    so we are not using Al Simmons well that shit needs to be specified so dont say “moot point”. like da shit aint spot on.

    Simmons is the only spawn that matters, why even talk spawn if your not using.
    A. the powerful one.
    B. him at his Apex of power.

    Dont bring characters into fights if they dont get their abilities or else its slaughter. if its Simmons he gets his powers all of em. no one said other wise.

  64. Darkbladex96 February 23, 2010 at 12:51 pm -      #64

    going to claim BS on this.
    spawn gave up his powers then regained them after regretting beating wanda and willingly becoming spawn again.

    Omega spawn is part of the image united series not part of the actual Spawn comic storyline.

    whereas all events i cite from occured during reconstructed world no event occured that depowered him, as a matter of fact Simmons mother worked with Mammon to birth simmons to be the most powerful hellspawn.

    if you really wanted to prove me wrong or convince me. you would’ve said that this Fight was Jim Downing (spawn) and someone would specify that this was infact the case. needs to be stated if its the original character, his reincarnations, or from another series.

    because im well aware of the events of the series.

  65. Darth Revan October 24, 2010 at 6:46 pm -      #65

    didnt Darth Nihilus consume the life force of entire planets at a time?
    if so then he would simply drain everyone of their life from the very begining
    im pretty sure it isnt their souls he eats, its LIFE FORCE.
    which everyone has.
    even ghost rider.

  66. Darth Revan October 24, 2010 at 6:52 pm -      #66

    also, Darth Nihilus cant consume the life of those strong in the Force.
    which none of them are.
    also the force gives him the ability to foresee attacks and avoid/counter them.

  67. Kravockian November 4, 2010 at 9:32 pm -      #67

    I have to go with Darth Nihilus, sad to see my boy Spawn get his soul eaten but there’s none of them that can counter that. I have to go with Darth Nihilus because all of them would have to gun for him first and even then the whole eating souls pretty much wins it.

  68. Darkbladex96 November 4, 2010 at 9:47 pm -      #68

    Actually after more research into the continuum, or spawn, image united is canon and counts as the current spawn.

    Nihilus is the least important character here, spawn takes him out easily and quickly, he cant drain spawns life force….hes dead. Neither does he have the feats to say hes strong enough or fast enough to fight spawn, nor does he have any powers that are particularly effective.

    i think ghost rider can kill sauron with penence stare.

    i dont know what kind of powers sauron has.

    Thor being FTL makes him a big threat, but i think it might take a moment for him to drop spawn.

    Ghost riders penance stare is going to rape spawn, but spawns precog should see it coming allowing him to defend.

    Does thor have any defense against mental attacks? if not spawn has a chance.

  69. Kravockian November 4, 2010 at 10:16 pm -      #69

    Spawn is a soul…. Or life force if that is easier, he can still die. He isn’t undead he is a hellspawn which is the danmed souls empoered to fight useing necroplasma. Nihilus should still be able to drain him dry.

  70. Commander Cross October 18, 2011 at 9:23 pm -      #70

    @Soldier’s Shadow

    Don’t tell me…if its only between Spawn and Ghost Rider, the latter can send the former away via some kind of Battlefield removal if the latter cannot destroy Spawn(as Al Simmons) outright, right?
    Where’s the awe unless you count Spawn vs Nihilus? :sad:

  71. Nova Prime March 25, 2013 at 12:10 pm -      #71

    Ghost Rider rides away with victory at hand!

  72. Marcel March 25, 2013 at 12:16 pm -      #72

    @ Nova

    Ghost Rider can take out THOR? 0.o

    No real specifics given on Nihilus’ RT, but how many of these beings could stop him from eating them with a single word?

  73. Nova Prime March 25, 2013 at 12:22 pm -      #73

    Ghost Rider catches Thor’s Hammer:

  74. Marcel March 25, 2013 at 12:25 pm -      #74

    Dang…but could he catch it if the force of the throw is NOT spent?

  75. Richard Rider in Godkiller Armor April 25, 2013 at 3:41 pm -      #75

    Someone needs to pick sides in this match and I’m going with Ghost Rider..or Thor.

  76. VunderGuy April 25, 2013 at 3:43 pm -      #76

    Thor all the way.

  77. VunderGuy April 25, 2013 at 3:47 pm -      #77

    Thor all the way.

    Here’s why:

  78. Richard Rider in Godkiller Armor April 25, 2013 at 3:49 pm -      #78

    Which Spawn are we using…

  79. VunderGuy April 25, 2013 at 3:59 pm -      #79

    @Richard Rider with over-hyped no limits fallacy armor:

    I think it’s fair to say the “standard” incarnation of each character. That is to say, no reality warping here unless it’s widely regarded to be apart of their normal set of powers at their normally established levels of power.

  80. Genis-Vell May 3, 2013 at 1:56 pm -      #80

    Still going with Ghost Rider here.

  81. VunderGuy May 3, 2013 at 2:47 pm -      #81


    I’m going with the planet buster with the magic hammer who could withstand the heat of the center of a star.

  82. moltenox May 25, 2014 at 4:17 am -      #82

    Nihilus isn’t really ‘mortal’, to those saying so. His mortality ended when he was hit with the Mass Shadow Generator, and turned him into, essentially, a force vampire. He then shed what remained of his human life, his physical exterior, needing only to exist as a spirit inside his sith armor. Like sauron, who bound his power to the ring… Nihilus created a thread with Visas Marr which was exploited to make him vulnerable… but even being defeated he was never fully vanquished, he just became dormant according to what i’ve read. He was too, a planet buster in a manner. He absorbed all life on Katarr, with the exception of Visas Marr, just by being within a certain proximity to the planet and speaking. Definitely the scariest member of the triumvirate. That’s just a little on Nihilus, to correct a few details suggesting his defeat in earlier posts, though i think this one might go to sauron… All the badassery, but free of the constraints that make nihilus vulnerable, such as his feelings and hunger. The other guys are more so a tier down from these two, but with some pretty hardcore feats down.. it does make it difficult.

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