Master Chief vs Sam Fisher

Master Chief vs Sam Fisher

Another reader request – I have to say that I’ve never played any of the Splinter Cell series or any Tom Clancy endorsed game. For whatever reason the games just don’t appeal to me. If I wanted to sneak around I would just play “Sneak King” from Burger King and just be the creepy guy handing out Whoppers.

Anyways, after reading up on Sam Fisher, the *only* way he has a sniff of taking out the Chief is if he somehow manages to elude his radar. Considering the “luck” factor that MC has, I just don’t think that would happen.

Verdict: MC in a blowout.

Master Chief:

  • Various weapon skills
  • Cool Armor
  • Decent Vehicles
  • Lone Wolf Mentality
  • Has shields to re-generate

Sam Fisher:

  • Stealth
  • Advanced Weapon Training
  • Has a “Move” for every situation

Your thoughts?

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525 Comments on "Master Chief vs Sam Fisher"

  1. hitman8 November 14, 2007 at 8:06 pm -      #1

    uhhhh master chief would just shoot him in the head and thats it wow that was easy

  2. solid snake November 14, 2007 at 10:15 pm -      #2

    ah fuck sam fisher he sucks chiefs robodick

  3. completetwat November 16, 2007 at 9:56 am -      #3

    Here’s what happens:

    Sam tries to kill MC with a crappy pistol as MC walks towards him. MC grabs Sam, AND PUNCHES HIS ****ING LIGHTS OUT!

  4. darth tader donut hole November 16, 2007 at 5:21 pm -      #4

    ooooooooo burn

  5. Spartan-117 November 20, 2007 at 2:44 pm -      #5

    BURN? WHERE? BURN IT ALL! MWHAAAAAAAAAA!!

  6. Saker November 20, 2007 at 8:22 pm -      #6

    No chance. Not even a real fight. Puny normal human. MC all the way…

  7. kano November 27, 2007 at 11:17 pm -      #7

    You kidding sam fisher with all the stealth would pick mc off before he knew what hit him

  8. Spartan-117 November 29, 2007 at 5:18 pm -      #8

    Kano? Are you feeling alright? Headache? Shooting pains up and down your arm? Because,seriously, GET YOUR ****ING HEAD CHECKED!

    MC= Super human with futuristic weapons

    Sam Fisher= Dickhead with some crappy goggles

  9. mcbac508 December 7, 2007 at 9:58 pm -      #9

    mc is a SPARTAN, the ultimate soldier, with a suit of armor that is waay cool. mc(without his armor) vs. sam fisher, mc will do to him what chuck norris does to kittens.(sends them into the vacuum of space muhahahahaha)mc (with armor) vs. sam fisher, mc will pwn, own, destroy, splatter, beat down, stab,snipe, or spartan lazer sam fisher (did i mention beat down?)

  10. Unsimplified December 8, 2007 at 2:30 am -      #10

    Sams good but a terrorist can kill him in a few shots MC would pull his dik out and force feed it to him

  11. Dan December 12, 2007 at 8:34 pm -      #11

    Sam has a chance if he uses stealth but if MC sees him hes done for

  12. mcbac508 December 14, 2007 at 6:33 pm -      #12

    mc can just sit in his jacuzzi with a martini while sam tries to kill him with his weak weapons from the past

  13. Unsimplified January 17, 2008 at 8:08 pm -      #13

    Dan even if fisher snuck up to chief he would pump a few, possibly up to twenty quiet rounds into chiefs armor. make that 30. The weak bullets are centuries b4 chiefs weapons, and add to that a silencer have a weak wepon. chief would reach up, grab fisher by the arms and mash him into fish-paste with his own arms

  14. Unsimplified January 17, 2008 at 8:11 pm -      #14

    armors kinda cheap so without armor chief would be slightly pained, maybe badly injured. but his survived bullets in his ribs, a missile luanched right into him and more without armor and with it. he ran 2 kays in a few seconds and rang a heavy bell right after being attacked by a heavy anti tank missile a few rounds would simply cut the flesh

  15. wes January 24, 2008 at 9:12 pm -      #15

    this is a bit one sided. mc takes the cake. i would like to see Snake vs Fisher though. which wouldnt happen. fisher would form an alliance w/ snake because they both work for the colonel and , together, they could take down cheif in a matter of a , well planned, minute.

  16. masterchief tha best hero February 9, 2008 at 10:20 am -      #16

    MC would kick fisher’s @$$ even with stealth fisher can’t do
    shit. MC kicks fisher’s @$$.

  17. brandon marcial February 20, 2008 at 10:53 pm -      #17

    I agree, MC is ALSO an assassin but ahs better weaponry and is tougher

  18. Robert February 22, 2008 at 2:07 pm -      #18

    Sam tries to get master chief off guard(which never happens) but we will pretend that he is. So Sam sneaks into the bunker were MC spends the night and waits for him to remove his armour. Then when MC sits down on his bed to got to sleep Sam sneaks up behind he and bereaks his neck… But Wait! MC’s Augmented bones can’t break so Mc turns around and punchs Fisher through the wall then goes to sleep.

  19. Spartan-117 February 22, 2008 at 5:10 pm -      #19

    rofl ^^

  20. brandon marcial March 3, 2008 at 9:25 pm -      #20

    robert RULZ!

  21. seth March 13, 2008 at 1:03 pm -      #21

    im a really big fan of both! fisher would be able to lose mc a couple of times but then he come in for a hit then bam on the ground mc wins

  22. Metal D March 25, 2008 at 7:21 pm -      #22

    wow, only one person votes for fisher. Sorry but fisher’s only sneaky. Imagine 50 billion soldiers vs. an ant. For those of you who say the ant… your right! Jk MC FOREVA

  23. JT April 16, 2008 at 3:26 pm -      #23

    You can’t have these two face-off unless you account for the updates the Splinter Cell program would implement to reach the time of the Halo games.

    Bring Sam’s training and tech up to MC’s timeframe, and you’ve got yourself a match. Otherwise, it’s pathetic to even make this comparison.

  24. Nicholas April 17, 2008 at 5:50 pm -      #24

    Alright MC can throw a tank like a toy!Fisher would pull his nife out and trys to stab MC, MC turns around and implodes Fisher’s skull with ease.

  25. vicarious one April 24, 2008 at 3:29 pm -      #25

    Mc has this one, Sam is stealthy so it will take a few minutes for Mc to draw a bead on him and smoke him. Sam is good but he is no solid snake ya know.

  26. Jack April 25, 2008 at 1:31 pm -      #26

    No! Sam is doing that thing where he climbs between two walls and waits there when cheif shoots the sniper up sam’s A**. MC then takes his pants off and gives Fisher a bl#wjob. Everyopne wins!

    LOLLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

    edited for language, admin

  27. moxieman1884 April 29, 2008 at 11:46 am -      #27

    i have played the splinter cell games and they are very fun but sam fisher gets killed by two bullets from a cia night shift patroll man’s pistol, kinda p#ssy, just think what MC would do to him, when sam tries to ambush him he just grab his arm and twists him onto the ground, knocks him out, and teabags him till he wakes up, at that time he BR’s him in the head, one shot dead, easy MC win

    i would love to see MC vs. Ganondorf, that would be great!! - added to the list! Admin

  28. Spartan II May 9, 2008 at 12:12 am -      #28

    sam fisher ofcourse will die, i mean look, MC has a cool armor , the spy doesnt have a armor. so MC can make -100.000.000 shot
    and like he will kill the spy 10000 times

  29. Wake-up Call May 21, 2008 at 2:17 pm -      #29

    Ok. let’s put things into perspective here:
    Weaponry:
    Sam Fisher: fn7 pistol, sc-20k, shotgun attachment, launcher attachment, sticky shockers, sticky cams, knives, goggles, airfoil rounds, and stealth. even with these, he stands NO chance.
    Master Chief: too many that can shred Fisher into tiny pieces.
    one word to describe Fisher’s situation:
    “SCREWED.”

  30. lx N0WH3R3 xl May 21, 2008 at 4:43 pm -      #30

    stealth doesnt help uhhhh MC has a radar by the time sam is in radar his fuckin head would explode hell MC could take him out with 1 shot of the plasma pistol :smile:

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  31. BIG AL May 23, 2008 at 8:04 pm -      #31

    As over rated as i think MC is, Sam Fisher is a tool.

  32. mc...hammer? May 25, 2008 at 7:32 pm -      #32

    nice on spartan 117

  33. PROJECT ALICE May 26, 2008 at 2:08 pm -      #33

    Iv’e never heard of Sam Fisher, but i’m pretty sure the Master Chief would win. :cool:

  34. PROJECT ALICE May 26, 2008 at 2:12 pm -      #34

    Did you guys know that the MC real name is John? I don’t know his last name though :cry:

  35. john May 27, 2008 at 10:58 pm -      #35

    no contest sam fisher doesent even have armour just a little P.O.S gun the size of a fork which is probably even crappier then the halo 2 magnum

  36. Aaron Benedetti June 5, 2008 at 10:59 am -      #36

    masterchief would own. i will say that same baout this that i said about MC vs Solid Snake, MCs armour is futuristic and Sams weapons would not penetrate it end of. if solid snake cannot beat MC then a crappy rip off of solid snake wouldnt either.

  37. Tanner June 13, 2008 at 12:31 pm -      #37

    fisher (tries to break his neck)
    mc (gut punches him and pulls him inside out by his corn hole(

    the end

  38. Eh July 2, 2008 at 4:01 am -      #38

    ^ ‘Nuff said.

  39. John Rambo July 6, 2008 at 3:43 pm -      #39

    nice

  40. SPARTAN-118 July 11, 2008 at 10:57 pm -      #40

    Well, Sam Fisher could probably avoid the MC if he had too. And possibly escape alive. And could inflict some pain in gorilla warfare. But, considering he has NO body armor, he is toast in any other circumstance. Fisher’s only chance is stealth and wiping out the MC (at long/medium range) before he can react.

    Outcome: MC wins and Fisher dies a slow (hopefully painless-ish death)

  41. halofan#1 July 21, 2008 at 1:09 pm -      #41

    Mc all the way if fisher tried to snap chiefs neck he cant cause chief has armor and if fisher stealthed chief would know cause of his motion tracker so fisher will lose from every angle you look at it even with snakes help chief would barely feel a thing and a modern sniper round cant penetrate chiefs armor chief would win eventualy with only a few scratches or maybe with a useless bone broken like the pinky toe bone the only way that sam could win is if he assembled the whole worlds armies even a rocket couldnt kill chief if it was a modern weapon it will be near impossible to kill chief so get used to it!! :mrgreen:

  42. mcralldaway July 25, 2008 at 1:22 pm -      #42

    Ummmm… im pretty sure this is a pretty unanimous decision… MC PWNS SAM’S A$$!!!!!

  43. King Ghidorah OWNS! July 30, 2008 at 9:04 pm -      #43

    MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC
    :!: :!: MC :!: :!:

  44. King Ghidorah OWNS! July 30, 2008 at 9:04 pm -      #44

    MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC
    :!: :!: MC :!: :!: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  45. mc rules August 5, 2008 at 7:06 pm -      #45

    who is this pussy?

    MC could beat him many ways

    MC would knock his head off and sh!t in it

    MC would kick his head said hard it would make a hole thgrough the moon

    MC could punch him through mount everest

    heck, chief could hit his head w/ a light post into osama ben ladins @$$

    THAT WOULD BE ASM IF MASTER CHIEF WUZ PREESIDENT…

  46. Dan August 5, 2008 at 9:28 pm -      #46

    Sam Fisher:Want to hang out at the Pizza place? :eek:
    Master Chief: okey :???:
    Master Chief *poke Sam’s shoulder*
    *Sam’s shoulder breaks*

  47. Just A Gamer August 12, 2008 at 11:29 am -      #47

    Ok well I know this is pretty much over but I want to have a little fun with this, so here’s how it would go…

    Master Chief walks casually down the oddly vacant streets of Venice looking for this assassin named Sam Fisher… While walking he ponders how much it would have sucked growing up as a guy with a gay name like Sam. Suddenly as he was about to walk through one of the many narrow alleys of Venice Master Chiefs notices a blinking light behind a trash can. Using the zoom feature on his helmet he zooms in and quickly identifies this thing as a proximity mine. So he laughs and thinks to himself what kind of idiot puts a blinking light on a bomb. He backs up a few steps and lifts a nearby moped with one arm and tosses it at the trash can and it explodes. He can here the screams of a burning hobo and winces as he sees him run on fire off the dock into the water below Venice. “Oops” he says and then walked through the burning alley completely protected from the flame by his armors shielding and gel layer. Before coming out the other end of the alley Master Chief looks out into the open area ahead and think “perhaps I shouldn’t just walk out there, he could be anywhere” then remembers “oh yea, I’ve been sent back nearly 500 yrs in the future and there isn’t a handheld weapon in existence which could possible penetrate my shield or armor, plus it say here on my Intel readout that all this guy ever uses is a low caliber silenced pistol that probably can’t even make it through my shield after unloading an entire clip.” So he walks out through the tunnel with his Sniper slung on his back and an energy sword in his hand. He sees a blip on his radar and Sam leaps down to tackle Master Chief but under jumps and lands with the barrel of the sniper three quarters of the way up his ass. Master Chief, pulls the sniper off his shoulder and holds it straight out with fisher still screaming on the end of it and fires all four shots, each one firing from his rectum and through his heart and brain. Master Chief pulls him off his gun, wipes it down and looks at the next name on his list:

    Hmm,
    Batman – deceased
    Iron Man – deceased
    Samus – Impregnated
    Wolverine – Got tired of unsuccessfully trying to kill each other, so decided to play some pool instead.. I won
    Boba Fett – deceased
    Snake – deceased
    Sam Fisher – now deceased
    Superman – Skipped that one
    Barney – next target

    **Which reminds me you should do Master Chief vs. Barney and the Teletubies, cause I have a great story about how they die too**

    …added….Admin

  48. onesidedfight August 20, 2008 at 2:54 pm -      #48

    sam sneaks in the shadows while master chief looks for him he truns and see 3 birght green lights. he takes out an assualt rifle and fires it at him. sam, wishing he had taken off his gogles, gets killed. OR sam does get behind him and shoves a pistol next to his face. within in the next second sam is on the ground crying while mc calmley takes a shoutgun out.

  49. spartan 117 October 7, 2008 at 10:13 pm -      #49

    chief would pwn fisher sam thinks hes so sneaky sneaky but hes not.all chief would have to do is stick a plasma grenade on sammys goggles sammy sees blue then he sees a light at the end of a tunnel

  50. Baron Somebody December 9, 2008 at 11:09 am -      #50

    @Spartan-117

    “Kano? Are you feeling alright? Headache? Shooting pains up and down your arm? Because,seriously, GET YOUR ****ING HEAD CHECKED!

    MC= Super human with futuristic weapons

    Sam Fisher= Dickhead with some crappy goggles”

    Dickhead with crappy goggles lol

  51. wyatt December 20, 2008 at 4:19 pm -      #51

    this is what everyone seems to not put into mind, my friend is all for sam fisher yes he has stealth training but if anyone has read the halo books master chief is probably up to par or surpasses fisher in stealth… you got to rememeber mc is a spartan he was born into combat stealth hand to hand and he has a advanced suit of armor that enhances all of his senses and sam just has his training… mc without a doubt

  52. zomg54dude July 16, 2009 at 11:58 am -      #52

    Just to clear things up… Sam’s goggles don’t actually glow, its for gameplay purposes and just his signature thing or whatever.
    Second, give Sam SOME credit, i mean he stopped a digital worldwide crisis, a whole guerilla warfare thing, WWIII, and heartlessly killed members of a terrorist group which were all of his friends(as a double agent), while stopping 6 nuclear red mercury bombs which could destroy Nashville, LA, a cruise ship, and New York. Now he’s on the run from 3rd Echelon, who was the one who assigned him those missions while trying to kill his daugher’s murderer, which he finds wasn’t an accident, and trying to save two of his friends from 3rd echelon, who knew him well as a friend. And that’s just the games.
    Third, should you have even posted this, admin? It’s like a yoshi with a watergun and a broken jaw battling MC. This is my 1st comment, but how bout something like Sam vs Nina Williams from Death by Degrees, or something like that?

  53. truckman March 30, 2010 at 3:53 pm -      #53

    The Chief used to be a super-stealthy, terrorist/guerilla-kidnapping/assassinating, stealthy-bodysuited, ninja like Sam was before he got MJOLNIR armor, in fact his first real mission was like, 16 or something.

    Plus he can still manage to be pretty stealthy in the power armor when he needs to.

    so……MC for BankGambling Award

    (possible cool matchup: Linda(the Spartans best sniper) vs. a Vindicare Assassin

  54. HazardousKing May 15, 2010 at 5:44 am -      #54

    sam fisher would emp granade chief and get that final kill shot off, any way second option sam has sniper attachment for his longarm weapon, headshot=instakill

  55. shadow2224990 November 21, 2010 at 10:50 pm -      #55

    if he sees fisher for a second hes dead and fisher does not have the fire power to win. this is a tottal stomp!

  56. JoeBob November 24, 2010 at 10:33 pm -      #56

    At least Sam Fisher has good games.

  57. Marcus Fenix March 1, 2011 at 1:22 pm -      #57

    I’m a big fan of Sam but I’d hate to admit it buy MC has got this he has shields smgs sticky grenades and Sam has a pistol the thing is Sam uses stealth and master chief goes in guns blazing.

  58. AmericanBadger August 22, 2011 at 10:39 pm -      #58

    I hate ones with master chief its just full of halo nerds going “Dude master Chi3f ube3r pwns hes got armor and a shield and im totally not a virgin”. I will admitt Sam probably would have a hell of a time trying to hurt him, but if Master Chief didnt have his armor he’d be fucked, especially after playing Splinter Cell: Convictions. I dont care what kind of gay space training he got when he was a child but its shit compared to Sams, Marine,SEAL, CIA, Third Echelon training. He’s the stealthiest most Agile fuck i’ve ever seen and he would rape Chief in hand to hand. I know he fought ODST when he was a kid but they arn’t US special forces so that’s why they suck. I respect the Chief but he’s got the suit to save his ass plus he fights aliens and might not know what to do when fighting a Super spec ops government assassin like sam.

  59. the_man_with The_Answers August 22, 2011 at 10:49 pm -      #59

    AmericanBadger, go to the link below. All of those are direct quotes from the Halo books. Sam is soooooooo outclassed in armor, speed, strength, H2H, possibly stealth, and most likely training.(Don’t be lazy, go through both pages)
     
    BankGamblingtopia.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9145
     
     

  60. Lowk August 22, 2011 at 11:00 pm -      #60

    “I will admitt Sam probably would have a hell of a time trying to hurt him, but if Master Chief didnt have his armor he’d be fucked”

    While I like Sam better and only know the basics of chief, without armor Chief is still superhuman. Against someone less genetically tampered Sam could stand a chance but what he is fighting here is both physically superior to Sam and just as highly trained.

  61. AmericanBadger September 1, 2011 at 9:27 pm -      #61

    Are both you guys fuckin shitting me.
    @The man with the answers: Are you retarded theres no way in hell without his armor would master chief beat sam in hand to hand or stealth, maybe armor and strength but only if he was wearing his gay suit. Sam has US government and US special forces training which is probley way better then made up space training. And those links are just some gay shit you and your friends made up because you like to jerk it to halo.
     
    @Lowk: i respect your comment more but He may be genetically altered but sam is like fucking batman hes in top physical perfection and trained by the CIA NSA Marines and Navy SEALs and more i think. American special forces training is probley 10x better. Plus those 4 train him in fighting, dealing with, and killing humans, which chief is.
     
    With the armor i dont know is sam could but without the armor sam would definitely win, not saying chief sucks but sam is way more lethal.
     

  62. Turtle Commando September 1, 2011 at 9:46 pm -      #62

    I understand AB. Unfortunately as far as actual debating goes Answers has you fucked over. As wanked as the books are in terms of stealth for MC (virtually impossible feats) in terms of canon(stuff that actually holds credit in a debate not game mechanics or whatnot) his quotes are valid and acceptable no matter what you have to say.

  63. SgCombine September 1, 2011 at 9:50 pm -      #63

    Your retarded AmericanBadger, and hate to break it to ya, but american special forces arent the best in the universe, especially not in sci fi lol. Your seriously trying to argue that a above averge human can take on a guy who can crush him with ease(without armor). Also i would like to see proof that a US spec ops is Superior to an odst.
     
    Although i expect you will probably just flame me, but whatever…

  64. Turtle Commando September 1, 2011 at 9:55 pm -      #64

    ODST and spec ops debate is as a whole unsolvable due to lack of evidence for actual ODST training.
    BTW
    Books are about the only thing that actually has the Halo universe correctly done.  

  65. Lowk September 1, 2011 at 9:59 pm -      #65

    “And those links are just some gay shit you and your friends made up because you like to jerk it to halo.”

    Actually I think they are quotes from the Halo novels.

    “i respect your comment more but He may be genetically altered but sam is like fucking batman hes in top physical perfection and trained by the CIA NSA Marines and Navy SEALs and more i think. American special forces training is probley 10x better.

    Batman physically speaking is only about equal to Chief in speed, strength wise Chief still seems to be be stronger then either is. Unless you have something Stating or showing Sam lifting like a thousand pounds or more. Also maybe wrong on this but Halo is just 500 years in the future. Despite some of the weapons sucking in range I think the ODST and Spartans are basically trained much like modern day special forces. Except in Spartans(like Master Chief) case they have it trained into them at a young age.

    ” Plus those 4 train him in fighting, dealing with, and killing humans, which chief is.” 

    To be fair Chief technically could be considered a trained cybernetic mutant then a trained human. Sam isn’t really trained for that.

  66. Turtle Commando September 1, 2011 at 10:03 pm -      #66

    Ha! Mutant. He isn’t genetically altered in any way. Just physcially and chemically augmented. Through futuristic medical means.

  67. TheSorrow September 1, 2011 at 10:16 pm -      #67

    Huh… how interesting, we have Sam Fisher fanboy in Master Chief debate… usually it’s the other way around with anything involving the Chief.

  68. Turtle Commando September 1, 2011 at 10:29 pm -      #68

    Ain’t that the truth. Unfortunately this match was pretty much gimped from the get go. Maybe pre augmentation Chief?

  69. TheSorrow September 1, 2011 at 10:39 pm -      #69

    We don’t have that many feats of him pre-augmentation. Besides he was at least 14 at the time so I think it would just reverse the situation.

  70. ZomB September 1, 2011 at 10:42 pm -      #70

    Yeah, Master Chief probably wins this, it was probably only suggested due to the logic of Solid Snake is better than Master Chief, and Sam Fisher is kinda like Solid Snake…

  71. Turtle Commando September 1, 2011 at 10:49 pm -      #71

    Yeah, but Snake has tons of awesome gadgets and a super box. Fisher doesn’t…
    @The Sorrow
    We do have a few of pre augmentation but again he’s 14 so we can estimate that due to his skills and capabilities he’d be peak human or at least near peak human. (though this is purely conjecture and should have no place in an actual debate I still find it relevant enough to throw into the air).  

  72. Soldier's Shadow September 1, 2011 at 10:52 pm -      #72

    “Sam Fisher is kinda like Solid Snake…”
     
    ….How can you say that when both series’ hate each other!? 
     
     

  73. ZomB September 1, 2011 at 10:56 pm -      #73

    “Yeah, but Snake has tons of awesome gadgets and a super box. Fisher doesn’t…”

    Many people fail to realize the true power of the box…

    “….How can you say that when both series’ hate each other!? ”

    Believe me, it was painful to say , Sam Fisher IS just a Solid Snake rip-off after all…

  74. lancer_AR September 1, 2011 at 11:00 pm -      #74

    I’d like to see Adam Jensen vs. master chief 

  75. Lowk September 1, 2011 at 11:34 pm -      #75

    “Yeah, but Snake has tons of awesome gadgets and a super box. Fisher doesn’t…”

    Could’ve sworn Fisher had the whole gadget thing going. Though most was for infiltration, I do recall had emp weapons and a grenade luancher. Icould be wrong on the second though.

    “Sam Fisher IS just a Solid Snake rip-off after all…”

    He seems more like Bourne. 

    “I’d like to see Adam Jensen vs. master chief ”

    Adam is basically robocop that swaps armor for regeneration. 
    In the end it would probably fall on to what equipment Adam.

  76. AmericanBadger September 2, 2011 at 5:09 am -      #76

    SgCumsucker your fuckin stupid. US special forces are way better then any force in the world. Science fiction, if includes US forces, always depicts them as the best. But alot of the times they dont have them because they always make it so theres no more separate countries.

    Lowk Halo novals are gay and all i saw was you making statment and opinions. And ODST and Spartans are not trained like modern day special forces, because they suck. After playing Halo ODST i always think “Damn if only they gave the mission to US Navy SEALs it would have been done so much better and faster.
    And thats a good one Navy SEAL vs ODST and Spartans. Navy SEAL breaks the disc and throws the book in the fire. Navy SEAL wins. hahahahaha.

  77. Lowk September 2, 2011 at 8:03 am -      #77

    “Halo novals are gay and all i saw was you making statment and opinions.”

    So in the same sentence you claim all I wrote was opinions you dismiss the novels because you think it’s “gay”? Then immediately afterwards state the ODST and Spartans can’t be trained like modern day forces because “they suck”.

    The strength thing was proven in another match and the assumption that they are trained similar to US forces was at least based on the fact that it’s just earth united together 500 years in the future. You basically just state something and never give an actual explanation, the least you could do is state why you think the novel is gay or why you think they suck.

    ” Navy SEAL breaks the disc and throws the book in the fire. Navy SEAL wins. hahahahaha.”

    But then they will have wasted their money to assault an inanimate object with no feelings. Sounds like a loss for the SEALs. 

  78. OriginalA September 2, 2011 at 8:22 am -      #78

    “the least you could do is state why you think […] they suck.”
     
    To play devil’s advocate. BankGambling has done a rather large amount of work to show that most things in Halo, and the UNSC specifically, does suck.
     
    Then again, most of that is on the technological side of things, like gun and tank design choices, rather than the educational side of things, like combat training. And, of course, the Spartans, despite how much we slam them, are suitably badass for their status as a supersoldier.

  79. AmericanBadger September 3, 2011 at 8:09 pm -      #79

    Loss for the SEALs? If it was assualt then it was a mission, and if it was a mission then they would get paid. Easy mission easy money. Plus they’re breaking the worst game alive. Seems like a win win for them.

  80. TheSorrow September 3, 2011 at 8:34 pm -      #80

    It’s so rare to see a real Anti-Halo Fanboy on this site. It’s a pity that he’s too stupid to come up with any sensible argument.

  81. SgCombine September 3, 2011 at 9:04 pm -      #81

    HAHAHAHAAHAH I know right? How long do you think this guy is gonna last?

  82. Evil muNki September 3, 2011 at 9:12 pm -      #82

    Jesus! The beginning of this thread was crawling with MC fanboys.

  83. ZomB September 3, 2011 at 9:13 pm -      #83

    @Evil muNki

    That’s what BankGambling used to be, until the purge… 

  84. SgCombine September 3, 2011 at 9:17 pm -      #84

    :O No! Don’t talk about the Great Purge, its forbidden!

  85. Evil muNki September 3, 2011 at 9:19 pm -      #85

    I should count myself lucky that I didn’t find this site back then, might not have stayed very long if I couldn’t have a decent debate.

  86. AmericanBadger September 3, 2011 at 9:24 pm -      #86

    “Wow we have someone who doesnt like Hal0 wh4t a n00bs. Id so ub3er pwn him. I bet he has a life also and doesnt jcack of to Hal0 and w0w like us. He wont last a minute if we us our ub3r hal0 knowledge and look like l0sers”….fags

  87. SgCombine September 3, 2011 at 9:29 pm -      #87

    Lol, you gotta love how his debating skills consist of just insults and hate. I guess i must be a fag for not jacking off to the US SPECIAL FORCES like you huh? I guess im just not as patriotic as some people…

  88. AmericanBadger September 3, 2011 at 9:33 pm -      #88

    No your just one of the many Halo nerds who dont understand the world outside their basement and think their fantasy forces are better then the real ones in reality. plus we all know Gene from Alladin would win

  89. SgCombine September 3, 2011 at 9:39 pm -      #89

    Basements? In Florida? Facepalm
    I guess you would have me believe a US marine can stomp on Warhammer Space Marines? And that power armor is nothing compared to a flak jacket? What good is a gun that spams RPG type rounds when you have a Good Ole M16 right?

  90. ZomB September 3, 2011 at 9:43 pm -      #90

    @SgCombine

    Noone but CoD fanboys actually think the M16 is a good gun it is easily outclassed by soooo many guns…

    @AmericanBadger

    Why flip out man? 

  91. TheSorrow September 3, 2011 at 9:49 pm -      #91

    AmericanBadger doesn’t seem to get that this entire site is based on fictional scenarios involving mostly fictional things. Reality has little credibility here beyond the laws of nature that we use to determine certain aspects in the match, beyond that it’s nothing.

  92. the_man_with The_Answers September 3, 2011 at 10:01 pm -      #92

    This will be fun

    “Are you retarded theres no way in hell without his armor would master chief beat sam in hand to hand or stealth, maybe armor and strength but only if he was wearing his gay suit”

    S-IIs in and out of armor have shown extreme skills in H2H and stealth. Even pre-augmentation he was near peak human at 13.

     “Sam has US government and US special forces training which is probley way better then made up space training.”

    Master Chief was trained from the age of 6. He is also using an advanced training which is most likely harder than U.S. Navy SEAL Training. I am very framiliar with SEAL Training, especially BUDs(Basic underwater Demolitions). I would argue that SEAL training is one of, if not thee, hardest training regimines. However, it doesn’t last 8 years like MC’s, and I doubt it is designed to make 75 of the most perfect soldiers that humankind has ever seen(In Halo, which includes the modern day in its history).

    “And those links are just some gay shit you and your friends made up because you like to jerk it to halo.”

    Actually, they are word from word qoutes from the Halo novels. everything in those quotes is considered canon, and is therefore valid in a debate involving Halo.

     “He may be genetically altered but sam is like fucking batman hes in top physical perfection and trained by the CIA NSA Marines and Navy SEALs and more i think. American special forces training is probley 10x better. Plus those 4 train him in fighting, dealing with, and killing humans, which chief is.”

    Except chief has been training on Special Forces since he was 9, maybe earlier. Notice how I said ON, not WITH. Master chief was not simply trained to kill humans, he was engineered for it. You still have yet to prove any modern training to be better than Chief’s. The closest one is North korean Special Forces or Israli commando training, but those are more specialized to their environment and are only really similar in the length they train.

    “With the armor i dont know is sam could but without the armor sam would definitely win, not saying chief sucks but sam is way more lethal.”

    Sam is nowhere near as lethal. And from the content of your posts, you are clearly broadcasting Chief sucks. What do you want to judge lethality on? Kills in their career? Speed at which they kill? how many people they can take on at once? Because I’m 100% sure master Chief can beat Sam in all of those departments.

    “US special forces are way better then any force in the world.”

    I would love to agree with that, but the facts are they are not that far apart. U.S. navy SEALs are about equal with Israli Commandos, and an Israli Commando would 100% win if it was in their own territory.

    “Halo novals are gay and all i saw was you making statment and opinions. And ODST and Spartans are not trained like modern day special forces, because they suck. After playing Halo ODST i always think “Damn if only they gave the mission to US Navy SEALs it would have been done so much better and faster.
    And thats a good one Navy SEAL vs ODST and Spartans. Navy SEAL breaks the disc and throws the book in the fire. Navy SEAL wins. hahahahaha.’

    ODSTs from what I’ve seen in Halo Evolutions are trained in a similar way to modern special forces. SPARTANs were trained harder than ODSTs, so by logic SPARTAN training>modern special forces training. So a squad of U.S. navy SEALs will be able to survive in a city they have no idea where anything is, against enemies physically superior to them, against enemies that outnumber them 1000 to 1, enemies that they have no idea how they operate/even are, and drive/pilot vehicles they have no knowledge of?

    Breaks the disc and throws it in a fire? Isn’t that SEALs vs a videogame disk? If so that is a fail on the SEALs. The amount of money and skills wasted in doing that is making it seem that the disc wins. A new videogame costs $60, deploying a squad of SEALs would cost significantly more money. So if the goal is property damage, then losing $60

    “That’s what BankGambling used to be, until the purge…”

    I guess you could consider me a result of the purge. I should make a story about that…. I have ideas forming as we speak.

  93. Hac148 September 3, 2011 at 10:36 pm -      #93

    forgive me if my answer and reason are too simplistic. but last i checked, fisher was at most peak human with best of present day tech.
    MC, on the other hand. is above human, has regenerating shields, advanced class weaponry well beyond anything we have thought of yet. and is just as well, (if not more) trained then sam. MC for the FP award

  94. Evil muNki September 3, 2011 at 10:44 pm -      #94

    Thing is though Fisher never really stood a decent chance. MC just seems to one up him in every department apart from stealth. I don’t think this will get a BankGambling award though.

  95. Lowk September 4, 2011 at 1:03 am -      #95

    “Thing is though Fisher never really stood a decent chance. MC just seems to one up him in every department apart from stealth. I don’t think this will get a BankGambling award though.”

    Not exactly. Sam has got a few gadget and gizmos to at least give Chief pause. His shielding could get taken out by either Sam’s portable emp generator or emp grenades. The generator has about 3 blast and he can carry up to 3 emp grenades so that’s a max of 6 times to take out Chief’s shields. He also carriers up to 3 remote mines, 3 grenades, and 3 explosive sticky cams, so he has a few chance to apply some explosives to chief once his shields drop. The thing about the sticky cam is that he could use that he could combine it with the remote mines to make a trap where he wouldn’t even need to move, be seen, or even be close by while still being able to keep an eye on MC.
    He also carries at least to weapons but those would only really be useful if Sam manages to soften chief up first.  

    So Sam still stands somewhat of a chance. Just not on a small barren battlefield, in a straight up fist fight, or a straight up firefight.
    Depending on where this is Sam may also be able to get fit between someplace Chief can’t reach due to his armor which could prove useful when evading or something. 

  96. Evil muNki September 4, 2011 at 1:40 am -      #96

    So Fisher could stand a chance if he’s in stealth mode. Ok then, Fisher throws and emp grenade and screws up MC’s shield. Correct me if i’m wrong but wouldn’t the emp cause problems with MC’s tracking devices? If so then Fisher could easily be able to avoid conflict from within the shadows and weaken MC with a bombardment of grenades and mines. That could potentially soften up his armour or potentially give MC concussion if the grenades land near him. 

    I don’t see the mines being a problem as MC would probably notice them. They could be useful if Fisher sets up a trap(narrow corridor with two entrance points. Fisher lobs a couple grenades at one entrance, MC has only one choice but to exit through the other point only to see they are blocked with mines). I’m also guessing MC jumping over them wont help as they are not proximity mines but remotely detonated.

    Guess your right, Fisher does have a chance.  

  97. the_man_with The_Answers September 4, 2011 at 6:52 pm -      #97

    Master Chief’s suit is hardened against EMP. The EMP from an EMP bomb placed by Gray Team(Only wearing Mark IV) in The Cole Protocol only caused a slight stutter in their systems.

    Nothing in Fisher’s arsenal can cause significant damage to a S-II in Mark VI armor. You also forget Master Chief is also a very stealthy warrior. Master chief is significantly better than Fisher in EVERY department escept for stealth, but even then, Chief isn’t far behind.

  98. OriginalA September 4, 2011 at 8:22 pm -      #98

    The suit doesn’t shut down against an EMP, but the Power Drainer is an EMP device. If nothing else, Sam could weaken if not shut down John’s shields, even if only temporarily.
     
    Flashbangs should still be somewhat useful against John. His helmet would protect him from most of the effects, but the Brute Flare shows that it cannot fully negate the effect of visual effect weapons and he does have full audio at every point that we are aware of. That would suggest to me that these would still be an effective stun method.
     
    Reach shows that knifes can puncture the flexible areas of the armor that John wears.  If all else fails, the suit doesn’t prevent the neck from being moved so neck snaps are still possible. (of course the only time the suit did stop the neck from snapping is when the entire suit locked up, which is an arguably worse situation than a neck hold that can turn into a neck snap).
     
    I would say that Sam does have the potential to kill John, but the suit does its job fairly well too.

  99. Animus September 4, 2011 at 8:52 pm -      #99

    Aren’t those gameplay effects(aside from the EMP) because we already know the visors on their armor can adjust to protect the eyes(which is doesn’t in gameplay) and we know that close range attacks sort of slip of the shields(when Chief was fighting an Elite in Fall of Reach I think).

  100. the_man_with The_Answers September 4, 2011 at 9:17 pm -      #100

    “The suit doesn’t shut down against an EMP, but the Power Drainer is an EMP device. If nothing else, Sam could weaken if not shut down John’s shields, even if only temporarily”

    It only has effect on the shields, and that is a pretty powerful EMP. It is a sphere that lasts multiple seconds. As compared to an EMP grenade that only last for one quick flash.

    “Flashbangs should still be somewhat useful against John. His helmet would protect him from most of the effects, but the Brute Flare shows that it cannot fully negate the effect of visual effect weapons and he does have full audio at every point that we are aware of. That would suggest to me that these would still be an effective stun method.”

    Game mechanics. In the games, your faceplate doesn’t automatically polarize like it normally would. A a flasbang’s noise is nothing to a battle hardened S-II.

    “Reach shows that knifes can puncture the flexible areas of the armor that John wears.”

    Game mechanics. The knife would’ve bounced off the shields, and even if those were down, it would still bounce off the armor.

     “If all else fails, the suit doesn’t prevent the neck from being moved so neck snaps are still possible.”

    So Sam is strong enough to snap a neck with super-dense muscles and bones covered in titanium? I’m also fairly certian that the MJOLNIR would have some sort of protective restraint, not allowing the head to twist in that manner unless you could force the suit past that restraint. In which case, Sam would try it and Master Chief would turn around and snap his neck by a swift jab to the throat.

    “I would say that Sam does have the potential to kill John,”

    Not really. Only the mines seem to have any real capability of taking john down. How will Sam even get close to John without being picked up on his motion sensor?

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