Daleks (Dr Who) Vs The Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40K)

The Daleks (Dr Who) Vs The Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40K)

Massive carnage.

While I think the Daleks would put up a good fight, in the end, the Imperium would overwhelm them for the victory.

What say you?

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90 Comments on "Daleks (Dr Who) Vs The Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40K)"

  1. Tim January 8, 2009 at 1:36 pm -      #1

    Thanks admin for putting another one of my battle suggestions up.
    I’m really not sure who would win here, the daleks are more powerful but the imperium have much more people.

  2. Matapiojo January 8, 2009 at 2:13 pm -      #2

    I have made an ass of myself once already this week by posting on a subject I know little of. As a preference, I will go with the Imperium because I know how massive their reach (and power) is. The God Emperor of Mankind alone is a massively powerful being.

    This decision is not absolute as I know very, very little of the Daleks, though.

  3. Tim January 8, 2009 at 3:40 pm -      #3

    Matapiojo hopefully this will help you to learn more about the Daleks: tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Dalek. Also I should imagine looking at other dalek related parts of the Doctor Who wiki should also help you.

  4. Matapiojo January 8, 2009 at 4:13 pm -      #4

    I appreciate the link, Tim. I am aware of them and some of their capabilities. What I meant is that I dont know them nearly as well as I know the Imperium. So I’m waiting on arguments presented by others to draw my final conclussion.

  5. Tim January 9, 2009 at 4:29 am -      #5

    Sorry for the misunderstanding Matapiojo, hopefully the link will be useful to others though.

  6. Matapiojo January 9, 2009 at 9:54 am -      #6

    Not at all mate, my wording was pretty vague. Its still appreciated.

  7. Tim January 9, 2009 at 3:11 pm -      #7

    I’m glad to hear it was still helpful, hopefully more people will start posting soon so this discussion can really get started, as it’s just us at the moment lol.

  8. Space marine January 11, 2009 at 2:05 am -      #8

    I Know The Imperium Of Man will win……
    “daleks are more powerful”
    Wrong.

    Your putting Robots that are slow to react in anything, VS Demi-gods In warfare……
    Superhuman strength, intelligence, Brutality……….. and speed.
    Darleks have no chance.

  9. L-W January 11, 2009 at 3:07 am -      #9

    Although, let us not forget that the Daleks have the “Reality Bomb”.

    That alone gives any species or combatant an automatic win given the correct circumstances.

  10. Space marine January 11, 2009 at 10:19 am -      #10

    …………………………………………..Er………..Ok………Against the god Emporer….

  11. Tim January 11, 2009 at 12:53 pm -      #11

    There are finally more people discussing, hooray!
    I’ll admit that that some things from the Imperium are stronger than a Dalek but overall they are stronger than most things from the Imperium. By the way i’ve changed my mind and decided that the Daleks are probably the more powerful of the two.

  12. L-W January 11, 2009 at 5:25 pm -      #12

    “…………………………………………..Er………..Ok………Against the god Emporer….”

    Extended and overused ellipses aside, I have sincere doubts as to whether any material 40K force, sans the immaterial anomalies, could survive a blast of the Reality Bomb.

    Not to say that the entire Imperium would be consumed, but you seem to be severely underestimating the Daleks in this respect.

  13. fooby January 11, 2009 at 6:01 pm -      #13

    i alway wonderd

    though daleks have “Reality Bomb”. wont that mean they get destroyed too?

  14. L-W January 12, 2009 at 3:08 am -      #14

    Somehow they would survive, since it was their intention that Daleks were to be the only beings in existence after the destruction of all known existence.

    This somehow involved a specialized protective bubble and several surviving planets encased within a reality loop.

  15. Matapiojo January 12, 2009 at 7:21 am -      #15

    “i alway wonderd

    though daleks have “Reality Bomb”. wont that mean they get destroyed too?”

    That wouldn’t be a very effective weapon, would it?

  16. JoshMcFace January 12, 2009 at 1:07 pm -      #16

    Daleks aren’t robots and there’s not really any proof that they’re slow to react. Only very specific weapons seem to be capable of even touching them.

  17. AlphaCommando January 12, 2009 at 4:52 pm -      #17

    The playing factor here in my mind is numbers. Just exactly how many Daleks are there?

    If their numbers are low enough I would say there are enough high-level psykers to merely make them not exist (because the things are really tough), course if they have the reality bomb they win this one from the get-go…..

  18. Space marine January 12, 2009 at 9:49 pm -      #18

    Daleks resemble human-sized salt and pepper shakers around five to six feet (’152 to 183 cm) tall, Your saying that could Beat a Ten foot goliath.

    The Dalek’s eyepiece is its most vulnerable spot, and impairing its vision often leads to a blind, panicked firing of its weapon while shouting ‘My vision is impaired – I cannot see!’
    And a Marine with Pinpoint acurracy might as well just shoot it In the eye, Either that or Crumple it With his hands.

    the Reality bomb to destroy all life in every universe in existence. This weapon was powered by 27 planets.

    Why not Make A “dead Planet” Go boom? No more reality bomb.

  19. =[BF]=JimmieRox January 12, 2009 at 11:04 pm -      #19

    The only weapon capable of penertrating a Dalek’s shiel is an etremely powerful energy weapon, one more powerful than its own. Forgive me if I’m wrong but most of the weapons posessed by the Imperium are usless against the Dalek’s shield. Lascannons, Meltas, C’tan Phase Weapons, Vortex Grenades, Graviton guns and Conversion Beam Projectorsare the only weapons I can see being able to inflict damage on the Dalek’s with the exception of the eye stalk vunerability but the Dalek is self repairing so the eye stalk issue is a issue no longer. Heat based weapons are usless as in “Dalek” the Dalek is shown as vaporising the bullets as they hit it’s shield.

    However, the Dalek’s energy weapon is very powerful and is probably capable of destroying a Space Marine in 1 or 2 shots. Then there are the Heavy Weapons Dalek whose weapon is up to fifty times more powerful than the standard gunstick.

    In fact, here is some previous posts about Daleks:

    factpile.com/archives/934

    factpile.com/archives/907

    references to Daleks:

    tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Dalek

    tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Last_Great_Time_War

    tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Void

    tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Dalek_weaponry

    tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Gunstick (personally I believe the energy weapon to be a combinded emmision of electrical energy, plasma and a gaser or x-raser beam but there may be other energies involved)

    aliens.wikia.com/wiki/Dalek

    extract from Doomsday:

    Cyberman: Daleks, be warned; you have declared war upon the Cybermen.
    Dalek Sec: This is not war. This is pest control!
    Cyberman: We have five million Cybermen. How many are you?
    Dalek Sec: (pause) Four.
    Cyberman: (somewhat tauntingly) You would destroy the Cybermen with four Daleks?!
    Dalek Sec: We would destroy the Cybermen with one Dalek! You are superior in only one respect.
    Cyberman: What is that?
    Dalek Sec: You are better at dying!

    The planets where out of sync with the universe so the Imperium would be unable to find them unless they were capable of time travel, which they are not, as far as I know

  20. L-W January 13, 2009 at 2:13 am -      #20

    The Imperium have a minimal capacity for time travel, but the planets that powered the “Reality Bomb” were encased within an alternate universe directly parallel to our physical four dimensional existence yet segregated by some unknown inter dimensional rift.

    I won’t use the term Micro-Dyson sphere (I prefer the term phased resolution reality), but unless the Imperium could adopt a TARDIS amongst their arsenal, they are not going to halt the construction and subsequent detonation of the “Reality Bomb” in any way shape or form.

    Once detonated, the blast would continue to filter back and forth throughout all known existence for eternity (Sans the “Reality Bubble”), reverberating not only through our universe, but every alternate and parallel dimension between, including that of the Warp.

    Thus the end of all known matter…Except for the Daleks themselves, who would most likely die of boredom not long after.

    “Daleks resemble human-sized salt and pepper shakers around five to six feet (’152 to 183 cm) tall, Your saying that could Beat a Ten foot goliath.”

    When has strength had to be attractive or overtly imposing? Many species have shared such hubris when first encountering the Daleks (“They’re just tin cans, push them over”); and many more have died in making such a poor judgment.

    Lest to say, out of all the various races and menaces to terrorize the Imperium of Man (Orks, Chaos etc.) over the years, the Daleks would be quite high up there in ferocity.

  21. Space marine January 13, 2009 at 7:16 am -      #21

    “C’tan Phase Weapons,”
    They belong to the necrons……And would own a darlek, In many, Many respects.

    Meh, If Bullets didnt work,Then bring on the close combat :).
    And how would plasma NOT work?
    Anyway, This is L~W’s post on marines.

    The average Space Marine can be anywhere from 8-10 feet in height, with Veteran Marines sometimes known to measure in at a staggering 12 feet tall. Dependent on Armour type, weight can vary anywhere between 1 to 2 metric tonnes, with the taller Marines almost doubling that in mass.

    As Space Marines are genetically manipulated from the Embryo onwards, a many number of modifications and ‘natural’ augmentations have been implemented to assure only the optimal potential is reached. Space Marines continue to grow throughout their lives, so the longer they live, the larger they become and the denser the skeletal and muscular structure develops.

    Iron Halo – A conversion field that dissipates all kinetic and energy based attacks.

    Storm Shields – Latches onto other nearby energy shields and draws energy from them.

    Combat Shield – Powerful EM barrier that repels all projectiles and deactivates nearby explosive devices such as Rockets or Grenades.

    After the Ork Chaos wars, the Iron Halo became the standard of shielding for Space Marines, which as we know absorbs Plasma based ordinance and converts it to energy shielding in the process.

    Thanks for that L~W.

  22. L-W January 13, 2009 at 7:33 pm -      #22

    I grade that post an F-:

    Copying and pasting another users post without effectively utilizing the correct context and adding nothing to the overall discussion. Attempting to use another post to duplicity subvert the conversation when the original poster is not only aware of said statistics, but has been aware of them longer in his exceeded lifespan? FAIL.

    Also I sincerely doubt that the Dalek weapon utilizes Plasma, to me it seems to be more of a composition of particle acceleration and light based disruptor technology using some sort of highly penetrative proton beam. If anything, I would call it a disintegration beam.

  23. Space marine January 14, 2009 at 1:15 am -      #23

    I would call it a disintegration beam, Like a gauss flayer?
    I grade that post an F-:
    Screw that! *Throws paperwork Everywhere*
    And F? You are American If you grade mine an F……

    And Btw…..How did doctor who destroy the Darleks…….

  24. L-W January 14, 2009 at 2:44 am -      #24

    1) Gauss flayers function by stripping matter from a target, the Dalek weapon (No ‘R’ in the name) is more of a proton weapon that causes the internal structure of a target to vibrate at incredibly high speeds, essentially displacing their internal organs and vital functions to a useless series of disconnected membranes.

    2) I’ve made it clear on many occasions that I’m not American, in fact the grading scale used is actually very common throughout most of the world.

    3) The Doctor survives because he is a time lord who could escape the genocide of his people by displacing himself physically from the Dalek time wars by using the TARDIS. Once he bonded and transmuted with the heart of the TARDIS, he was granted a unique intelligence bordering on omniscience; and the ability to regenerate a new body for each time he was killed by the Daleks in combat.

    Which is a lot more than depicted in the Dr. Who television series.

  25. =[BF]=JimmieRox January 14, 2009 at 12:53 pm -      #25

    “The Doctor survives because he is a time lord who could escape the genocide of his people by displacing himself physically from the Dalek time wars by using the TARDIS. Once he bonded and transmuted with the heart of the TARDIS, he was granted a unique intelligence bordering on omniscience; and the ability to regenerate a new body for each time he was killed by the Daleks in combat.”

    Sorry L-W, I got a problem with that, that is just Timelords in general and not unique to the Doctor in any way, the only unique thing about the Doctor is that he survived the Time War by being the greatest warrior the universe has ever seen. It is just that now he hates the very idea of taking a life to the extent that he has even showed compassion towards Daleks and even tried to save Davros, the creator of the Daleks on at least two ocasions, the race that destroyed his planet, killed his entire species, murdered his family and basically ruined his life.

    The thing is that if the Doctor was to absorb the Time Vortex from the heart of the Tardis he would become a vengeful god, a master of time and space and all the dimensions, possibly the equal in power to the mighty God Emperor himself. However the key word here is vengeful and if the Doctor was to do this he would be breaking not only his moral code but the code of the Timelords. If you have seen “the Parting of the Ways” and seen the power wielded by a mere human while using the Time Vortex then you may gain an inkling of the Doctors potential. If a mere human can will the disintegration of a Dalek Emperor and his entire invasion fleet into atoms and bring someone back to life, in the process making them immortal. Then imagine what the Doctor could do, a being who sees the very currents of time itself, who is fluent in over five million languages, a man whose IQ is incalculable, the only thing the Daleks have ever feared, someone the call Destryer of Worlds, Bringer of Darkness and the Oncoming Storm!!!

  26. The One Sin January 14, 2009 at 5:31 pm -      #26

    My gut tells me empirium, but I’m not sure. What exactly are the Daleks?

  27. L-W January 14, 2009 at 6:55 pm -      #27

    If you’re talking about the ninth and tenth Doctor exclusively, I will find you and hit you.

    1) The issue of the Time Lords (Two separate syllables) gave him a very unique perspective when encountering the Daleks once again in human history, not only did it allow him the almost pre-cognitive experience to combat the Daleks throughout the expanse of the time wars and beyond; but in essence it fortified him with the understanding of what a time paradox could accomplish in the overall grand scheme of things.

    Thus his transformation from the episode “An Unearthly Child” to “The Genesis of the Daleks” story arc. To deny the importance of the Time Lord concept is to tarnish what we know about the character of the Doctor himself, making it practically meaningless.

    2) The Doctor was far from the strongest the Time Lords could ever train at the academy, it was actually his nemesis, the Master who went on to take the mantle of “Greatest Warrior” after his extended and partially successful exposure to the Vortex and his ascension to the council. It was only during the Time Wars, that so many of the Time Lords were being killed (None of them had the gift of THE TARDIS *Note how it’s entirely in capitals*) that the Doctor finally stopped running.

    Too bad most of his people had died at that point.

    3) As for the rest of the post, learn what the term “transmute” means before even commenting on anything by anyone in future. It can stop you looking like a complete dolt.

  28. =[BF]=JimmieRox January 15, 2009 at 1:33 pm -      #28

    No, i was not, although David Tennant is one of my favourite Doctors I still love Tom Baker’s (that would be the fourth incarnation) character.

    “The Doctor survives because he is a time lord who could escape the genocide of his people by displacing himself physically from the Dalek time wars by using the TARDIS. Once he bonded and transmuted with the heart of the TARDIS, he was granted a unique intelligence bordering on omniscience; and the ability to regenerate a new body for each time he was killed by the Daleks in combat.”

    Could you provide a reference for this please? It’s just that any spin-offs from the television program are of doubtful canonicity unless acctually endorsed by Broadcasting House or the Television Centre.

  29. L-W January 16, 2009 at 1:16 am -      #29

    Once again, go back and learn what the term transmute means…

    Jesus Christ, it’s like a damn playschool around here on most days.

  30. =[BF]=JimmieRox January 16, 2009 at 8:16 pm -      #30

    L-W, provide a reference, I know what transmute means, but references please!

  31. MJSC STARWARS January 26, 2009 at 11:23 pm -      #31

    Garbage men could beat Daleks…because they’re freakin’ garbage cans!

  32. Hungry Phish January 27, 2009 at 4:15 am -      #32

    The Imperium can declare exterminatus and destroy 27 planets from space, and wouldn’t have any qualms about doing it either. There are also the 13th company Space Wolves that could be in the eye of terror if the bomb did happen to go off. Space Wolves > Daleks

  33. =[BF]=JimmieRox January 28, 2009 at 9:07 pm -      #33

    You can’t destroy planets you can’t find and since the Daleks put themselves one second out of sync with the rest of the universe the Imperium wouldn’t even know what had hit them!

  34. =[BF]=JimmieRox January 28, 2009 at 9:09 pm -      #34

    Also, when one enemy has time travel and the other doesn’t then there is a clear victor!

  35. GEOM January 29, 2009 at 11:22 am -      #35

    I hate to make posts based off of assumptions, and I hate to read those as well. However, I refuse to accept that a being as mighty as the GEOM, with the ability to shoot bolts of psychic force more powerful than a supernova and the foresight to almost perfectly predict and subtly arrange events on a galactic scale for almost five hundred centuries (there was that little SNAFU with Horus) would be undone by something as wanky as a “reality bomb”. In the immaterium, which the Emperor has ridiculous control over, space and time have no meaning. Surely, he could find some means of using the Warp to project a battlefleet into the Daleks space/time or of bringing it into sync with that of the normal continuum. If this could happen, the Imperial Guard or the Space Marine chapters would lay waste to the Dalek’s planets. If boltguns and las rifles were ineffective, the Imperial commanders would realize this and shift fire. Eventually. With the resources of a billion worlds to call upon, a war of attrition on a systemic scale always goes to the Imperium. Again, I apologize for the assumption that the most powerful being ever, anywhere, EVER would find a way of defeating the Daleks, but, then, the whole idea of BankGambling is based on assumptions, correct?

    -Imperator Victrix

  36. Matapiojo January 29, 2009 at 11:59 am -      #36

    “there was that little SNAFU with Horus”

    First, that could harcly be called a SNAFU when the opponent in question was one of the strongest human being in the entire universe. Second only to the Emperor himself, the absolute most promissing product of the Emperor’s own genetic tampering.

    Second, your argument is quite valid, but then theres the Reality Bomb…

  37. =[BF]=JimmieRox January 29, 2009 at 5:39 pm -      #37

    Also, was the Emperor human, or has he always been a god? Simply because if he was human then Dalek+Time Travel=Dead Baby and so history gets changed.

  38. GEOM January 30, 2009 at 12:31 pm -      #38

    The Emperor was born from the collected psychic power of all of earth’s sacrificed shamans. The Chaos gods tried to intervene with his birth, but his power protected him. If the four Chaos couldn’t defeat him while he was still in utero, then nothing could once he attained consciousness. Through the ages, his power increased exponentially as he remembered his past lives as the shamans. However, there was a time when he didn’t exist. Interesting conundrum. So, as long as he has existed, he has had the power of a god, but there were billions of years before he came into being. Answer your question Jimmie? However, if the Emperor can manipulate time and space via the warp as well as has been suggested, can he prevent the daleks from going back and killing him or his family before he existed, but then, if we’re assuming that the battle takes place in the year 30 something 000, then wouldn’t the GEOM be able to prevent the daleks from ever going back in the first place? I have a masters in nuclear chemistry, but the concept of space/time disruption has always made my stomach churn. Furthermore, if the Emperor had never existed, then nothing would have opposed the Chaos Gods, and they could certainly defeat the Daleks, but that’s another post. The reality bomb is cheap, but then again, so are space marines and primarchs. So, if we assume that the fight takes place before the existence of the Emperor, then do the Daleks exist yet either? Of course not. I submit that, in the event that the Daleks should come into existence and begin to threaten the Imperium, the Emperor, having already held off the Chaos Gods for thousands of years, would use his limitless power and intellect to find a way through the Warp to eliminate the Dalek threat. Before the Imperium could be wiped out with the reality bomb. To suggest otherwise would be to suggest that Dr. Who and his comrades were more powerful or canny than the entire Imperium of Man at the height of its might and influence. One further question: if the Daleks mastery of time travel is so great, why was Dr. Who not preconceptually aborted?

    Forgive me if I seemed to ramble, I’m writing this in one of those dreary staff meetings.

    -Imperator Victrix

  39. admin January 30, 2009 at 12:48 pm -      #39

    @GEOM – “Forgive me if I seemed to ramble, I’m writing this in one of those dreary staff meetings.”

    That is awesome…

  40. =[BF]=JimmieRox January 31, 2009 at 12:56 am -      #40

    Acctually, you make a good point, what would the Dalek’s be like after 30,000 years more development? This is just bearing in mind that the earliest known existence of a Dalek relative to the timeline of the Earth was during the Roman Empire’s occupation of Britain. Also, Daleks are thought to be slightly psychic and Davros was a master of genetics, so as soon as the Warp was discovered the Daleks would be able to make themselves all be high level psykers by manipulating their genetic code to make them have the psyker gene.

  41. L-W February 4, 2009 at 2:09 am -      #41

    Einsteins laws of special relativity practically guarantee that once encased within a reality loop, no force in the universe (Sans the TARDIS) can intercept the construction of the Reality Bomb.

    Thus it has the greatest defense ever known, it is de-synchronized from our time line by one second. Scary stuff, huh?

  42. Space marine February 4, 2009 at 2:40 am -      #42

    Then the Space marines will need to kill doctor who and take his TARDIS.

  43. =[BF]=JimmieRox February 4, 2009 at 1:48 pm -      #43

    “Then the Space marines will need to kill doctor who and take his TARDIS.”

    Yeah, good luck with that!

  44. Thepocalypse February 10, 2009 at 6:17 pm -      #44

    The Daleks are unstoppable. They caused the deaths of every Time Lord in existence except the Doctor (cuz he’s so badass) and the Master (who hid like a coward. They almost destroyed all of time and space and can destroy a planet easily. Emergency temporal shifts mean they can escape from anywhere and SIDART and DARDIS chronal devices allow them to travel anywhere. They could easily teleport directly to the Golden Throne and well… EXTERMINATE! They have nearly invulnerable shields and number in the millions. They have laser beams that kill instantly and can still kill you without their shells. Also, one dalek can be sent to destroy an entire ship full of Space Marines.

  45. Thepocalypse February 10, 2009 at 6:20 pm -      #45

    BTW, I was describing the Emperor of Mankind to a friend who knows nothing about 40k and I simply said: “He’s Jesus in Mjolnir armour.” He instantly got it.

  46. =[BF]=JimmieRox February 11, 2009 at 1:16 pm -      #46

    BTW, I was describing the Emperor of Mankind to a friend who knows nothing about 40k and I simply said: “He’s Jesus in Mjolnir armour.” He instantly got it.

    No, not Jesus. The Trinity is probably more powerful and MJOLNIR is wimpy in comparison to his armour. Lastly, the Daleks number in the billions, if not the trillions and can be made from almost any intelligent life. Even if you only use one in a million cells a Hive World is still going to give you trillions of Daleks.

  47. Thepocalypse February 11, 2009 at 3:25 pm -      #47

    Yeah, it wouldn’t have sounded all that funny if I’d said “The Trinity is probably more powerful and MJOLNIR is wimpy in comparison to his armour.”

  48. =[BF]=JimmieRox February 11, 2009 at 4:04 pm -      #48

    That’s beside the point.

  49. Thepocalypse February 11, 2009 at 6:30 pm -      #49

    If you mean off topic, yes.

  50. cyborg pirate ninja jesus February 13, 2009 at 2:33 am -      #50

    i dont know of either team but im gonna go for the people just coz there people and if it were real id be on the people team

  51. =[BF]=JimmieRox February 13, 2009 at 6:05 pm -      #51

    “i dont know of either team but im gonna go for the people just coz there people and if it were real id be on the people team”

    Eh? Translate please!

    So, if I get the gist of it, your voting for the Imperium over the Daleks? Have you got reasons for that, or is it just “coz there people?”

  52. cyborg pirate ninja jesus February 15, 2009 at 3:36 am -      #52

    well why would you go for the team that is trying to kill you wouldnt you go for the one thats keeping you safe

  53. =[BF]=JimmieRox February 15, 2009 at 4:15 pm -      #53

    That’s just an idiotic statement, they aren’t fighting over you, fool!

  54. Thepocalypse February 15, 2009 at 4:31 pm -      #54

    “i dont know of either team but im gonna go for the people just coz there people”
    I’d be scared sh@tless of both sides. The Imperium may look human, but they’re really something beyond that. I’d be in a hole on some uncharted planet if this really happened. Not taking sides with creepy thousands of years old emperors.

  55. Tim February 15, 2009 at 5:12 pm -      #55

    “That’s just an idiotic statement, they aren’t fighting over you, fool!”

    lol

  56. cyborg pirate ninja jesus February 16, 2009 at 1:10 am -      #56

    i know there not fighting over me but that doesnt mean i wouldnt be in some way affected and id still side with the thousand year old emporers then some creepy killer robots

  57. --------- February 17, 2009 at 7:14 pm -      #57

    Daleks, at their height of power, controled an empire consisting five galaxys.

  58. Marche February 22, 2009 at 1:06 am -      #58

    so without the reality bomb,would 40k have a chance?

  59. Thepocalypse February 23, 2009 at 2:51 pm -      #59

    “so without the reality bomb,would 40k have a chance?”
    Yeah… no.

  60. =[BF]=JimmieRox February 27, 2009 at 5:33 pm -      #60

    “so without the reality bomb,would 40k have a chance?”

    Yeah, there’s always a slim chance, but an infinitesimally slim one. In fact one might as well say its negligible. The Daleks could use a temporal shift straight to the Golden Throne to kill the God Emperor. Or they could just kill everything in the Galaxy.

  61. Typhusss June 6, 2009 at 11:05 am -      #61

    god emperor/custodes/sisters of battle/imperial guard/space marines/imperial navy etc

    imperium ftw

  62. Tim July 5, 2009 at 6:34 pm -      #62

    “god emperor/custodes/sisters of battle/imperial guard/space marines/imperial navy etc

    imperium ftw”

    In comparison:
    The Apocalypse Element, a superweapon able to destroy all sentient life in a galaxy four times the size of the Milky Way. Or better still the Reality Bomb, a superweapon able to destroy all of creation.

    Daleks FTW.

  63. Tim July 14, 2009 at 1:21 pm -      #63

    Daleks for the BankGambling award then, seeing that the Imperium can’t really do anything to beat them.

  64. V July 14, 2009 at 4:23 pm -      #64

    the dalek gun is a nasty nasty weapon, upon impact it disperses around a body before converging inside it. it leaves your outside unharmed but jumbles up your interior organs, this makes many kinds of armour useless against it.
    In the entire run of dr who, only one person has survived a shot from a dalek gun and that was from a crappy mark one dalek that couldn’t even leave dalek city.

    Dalek guns have been fairly consistent but dalek armour has been so variable over the years it’s hard to call this, some have force fields, some can be taken out by a grenade. If you’re talking about only the post time-war daleks then the marines would have a hard time.
    If you’re talking even numbers, just marines vs daleks then it’s daleks every time. If you throw vehicles into the mix then the daleks might have trouble as there’s not really in the much in the way of dalek vehicles. There’s the heavy weapons dalek, very powerful but also completely mental

  65. V July 14, 2009 at 4:28 pm -      #65

    Also, as much as I love the daleks I should point out that their time travel technology is no use as a weapon. The emergency temporal shift is just that, an emergency measure. It’s pretty random.
    The other dalek favourite, the time corridor, is a messy time hack, unstable and difficult to control.
    True, they did have a tardis-like time machine in the dalek masterplan but that was never seen again or previously. Personally, I suspect time lord interferance

  66. Sam the heretic August 1, 2009 at 9:14 am -      #66

    Haha! Too bad halo boys aint around to see this,ey. After that MC vs. Space marine massacre,those fanboys ‘ave been wai’in for a chance to see the space marines get their shiny power armour caved in and the said marines ‘ead on a pointy stick. Now,who would win if these killa salt shakers faced the MIGHTY TRYNIDS!

  67. i dunno September 19, 2009 at 10:24 pm -      #67

    i honestly cant think of any way other than the reality bomb for the daleks to win
    the imperials might have to swarm them to do damage, true
    but the daleks shields cant defend them against what is not there, and so, the warp energy powering psykers wins the day for the imperium

    that is rapidly becoming my trump card in arguments about 40k vs
    psykers

  68. orpheus12 October 15, 2009 at 3:37 pm -      #68

    Imperium gets owned by little salt shakers

  69. Shadow Archon November 8, 2009 at 10:02 pm -      #69

    Each Dalek ship can bust a planet, how is this a contest?

  70. Locutus November 8, 2009 at 11:04 pm -      #70

    “Each Dalek ship can bust a planet, how is this a contest?”

    Pretty much the same with Imperium ships.

  71. Shadow Archon November 9, 2009 at 12:43 am -      #71

    “Pretty much the same with Imperium ships.”

    Wrong, they require special weapons in order to do it. Not every ship is equiped with Virus bombs and Cyclonic torpedos.

  72. Space marine November 9, 2009 at 2:59 am -      #72

    Nearly all 40k ships can destroy a planet by turning the void shields on in close proximity to a planet.

  73. Locutus November 9, 2009 at 3:02 am -      #73

    “Wrong, they require special weapons in order to do it. Not every ship is equiped with Virus bombs and Cyclonic torpedos.”

    Wrong. Simple orbital bombardment is a method of Exterminatus.

  74. Cpt Olimar November 9, 2009 at 3:06 am -      #74

    Does exterminatus destroy a planet, or wipe out life on the planet?

    The two are different both in application and in energy required.

  75. Space marine November 9, 2009 at 3:12 am -      #75

    Exterminatus blows the planet to hell. Vapourising it. Virus bombs destroy all life.

  76. Syncourt November 9, 2009 at 3:12 am -      #76

    I believe that the virus bomb + lascannon blast just destroys all life on the planet.

    The cyclonic torpedo is supposed to drill into the planet’s core and explode it to pieces.

    The conventional orbital bombardment…I’m not really sure.

  77. Locutus November 9, 2009 at 3:17 am -      #77

    Depends on which method is used. Orbital bombardment would truly fuck up the surface. Virus Bombs kill all organic life and then the gasses released ignite into a world wide firestorm that melt the surface of the planet. Cyclonic torpedoes can blow a planet to pieces.

  78. Cpt Olimar November 9, 2009 at 3:18 am -      #78

    In that case, Orbital bombardment would be vastly inferior to actually blowing a planet apart.

  79. Cpt Olimar November 9, 2009 at 3:21 am -      #79

    Oops I meant in energy output at the end of comment #80.

  80. shaun182 November 9, 2009 at 3:42 am -      #80

    The dalek fleet that attacked gallifrey was made up of ten million ships, and it was said in remembrace of the daleks that a single dalek craft has the firepower to crack the earth like an egg.

    This added to the fact that dalek FTL is significantly greater then the IOM’s, shown also in the remembrace of the daleks when the dalek vessel travels from earth to skaro in a matter of seconds, so even without the reality bomb the daleks could defeat the IOM.

  81. Locutus November 9, 2009 at 3:55 am -      #81

    “In that case, Orbital bombardment would be vastly inferior to actually blowing a planet apart.”

    Yep. Orbital bombardment still renders a planet lifeless but is obviously not as thorough as a Cyclonic strike.

  82. shaun182 November 9, 2009 at 4:41 am -      #82

    Orbital bombardment can destroy a planet if its aimed at a pre existing fault line, such as when the night haunter destroyed his world by targeting where his pod crashed years ago but cases like this are rare and should not be taken as the norm.

  83. L-W November 9, 2009 at 4:52 am -      #83

    Actually they use two-stage torpedoes, first a melta bomb to drill beneath the surface, then a cyclonic torpedo to shatter the core; although the amount of two-stage torpedoes available to the Imperium and their distribution throughout the Navy remains unknown.

    One should imagine that due to their exotic non direct energy attack mechanism they would be rarely distributed in mass naval deployments.

  84. shaun182 November 9, 2009 at 5:03 am -      #84

    Cyclonic torpedo’s take considerable time to prepare because the correct trajectories have to inputted before hand in order to maximise the effect of the torpedo.

    this would make it pointless in a heated battle since the enemy would not allow them time to deploy it.

  85. Shadow Archon November 10, 2009 at 10:36 pm -      #85

    (message originally written by Tik)

    Daleks have more than the standard Daleks to field.

    Strider Daleks for example are 10x bigger than normal Daleks and have much bigger weaponary (cannons as opposed to gun sticks).

    Omega Daleks are an airborn force that carries large amounts of Dalekanium bombs, each bomb capable of generating clean nuclear explosions.

    They also have the weaponary of the Deathsmiths which, among other things, includes grenades capable of destroying mountains.

    They also have nano-tech which can infect machinary and allow the Daleks to control it.

    Really, Stargate has nothing on Whoniverse time tech. For example one shot from a type 105 TARDIS can erase an entire star system from history. TARDISes can cover over 300 billion years in an attosecond (type 102 onwards). 103 type TARDISes eat stars and supernovas. Remember, the Doctors TARDIS is an old, obsolete type 40. It is the equivilent of a Time Lord caravan.

    Other examples of time tech include the fact that they can boobytrap space-time so that they, if need be, can destroy those entire time zones remotely. Time Lords can use a doomsday probe to devestate time through out an entire sector, killing all life, by releasing 5 seconds of accelerated entropy. They have ghost cluster devices that reduce a beings reality quotient (ie their probability of existing) so that either the individual cannot affect history however much he tries or that he simply never exists. Etc.

    As for dimension jumping, the Whoniverse has soooo many examples. Time Lords and Daleks have the tech to create their own pocket universes, cutting off planets from space and time. The Time Lords used a weapon called the Cold to remove whole planets from the space-time continuum, and place them in a different universe filled with star ship sized vampires. Before the Time War damaged the universe, crossing into different universes was common place….the Doctor had many adventures outside his own universe, Iris Wildthyme adventured across the multiverse, the Daleks waged war on an alternate universes race of Daleks, etc.

    Individual Dalek firepower has a wide range of settings. It has been shown to vary from “numb the legs so they cant move” settings to “destroy houses and small spaceships” settings.

    Dalek ships can one shot planets. They have been shown to destroy suns. They have cloaking systems. They have a wide variety of weapons, from dark-matter cannons to gravity weapons to energy weapons. They can even have psychic weaponary, able to drive an entire planet mad.

    The Daleks at their height had an Eye of Harmony and transduction barrier tech. What this basically means is that any Daleks behind such a barrier are protected against any reality jiggery pokery the Q could throw at them. This is the reason why the Time Lords didn’t wipe out the Daleks with a touch of a button back on Gallifrey.

    These are multi-dimensional defenses that cannot be breached (even 11 dimensional infiltrations are not possible). Although the Q have feats of multi-dimensional tinkering, they have no feats of breaking through a multi-dimensional tinkering proof shield such as the transduction barriers. Q are NOT all powerful….for example, Quinn was imprisioned quite succesfully for a time on a comet and his Q powers (which had not been revoked) couldn’t get him out of it.

    Their history cannot be changed unless they wish it too because the Eye of Harmony is the anchor for continuity, causality, and history.

    During the Q civil war we learned that if subspace was damaged to a certain extent that Q outside of the Continuum lost their powers and immortality (as what happened with a female Q). The Daleks are easily capable of causing said damage – their weapons in the Time War caused even greater damage to the universe than the Q civil war did. They could even use their Eye of Harmony to do this as it can be used to define the state/laws of the universe – the Time Lords used their Eye to ensure magic no longer existed, the Daleks could do the same to subspace effectively making the Q powerless/impotent.

    The Daleks have an effective defense and attack to impliment in this scenario.

    Daleks can destroy planets with ease as evidenced with these quotes….

    Davros in orbit with one Killcruiser: “Do not anger me, Doctor! I can DESTROY YOU! AND THIS MISERABLE INSIGNIFICANT PLANET!” – Remembrance of the Daleks

    “That ship has weapons which could crack this planet like an egg.” – Remembrance of the Daleks

    “Attack Spearhead now entering outer galactic sectors. Heavy concentration of asteroid fields indicate massed planetary destruction. Radiation readings indicate destruction caused by Dalek weaponary.” – Dalek Empire 2

    “I mean, if these Daleks are all over space, shooting up planets, how come the Thals are still around?” – War of the Daleks.

    In Dalek Empire 2 two rival Dalek Empires fight each other. They have a “punished planet” policy, destroying whole worlds which refuse to join their crusade.

    Although Davros never fired his weapon at Earth in Rememberence of the Daleks, other examples of the same type of ship (a killcruiser) show that planatary destruction is achieved by one missile/bomb, that it leads to a blinding flash, and then afterwards there are only small chunks of planet floating around. An example would be from the novel War of the Daleks (where even the Thals had planet busters too):

    See above in my post for destroying planets. They also have access to Deathsmith weapons that can halt planets in their orbit and drive entire planets populations insane. They can also pilot planets around like ships. They have also used Time Destructors in the past, capable of aging an entire planet to death.

    They have made planets vanish into time and space.

    Daleks have starkillers which, as the name suggests, destroys stars. They also have Deathsmith weapons which “shatter stars”. In Mutually Assured Survival some imprisioned humans infected with the Dalek Factor even manage to scrounge just enough Dalek technology from debris to build a starkiller of their own and plan to use it to destroy the station they are on by blowing up a nearby star.

    A Dalek matter transmuter, when linked to a TARDIS level power source (ie Eye of Harmony), is capable of destroying entire solar systems (in Legacy of the Daleks).

    Normal Dalek weaponary is enough to be a threat to spacecraft – they destroyed a Thal spacecraft (Planet of the Daleks) and a human spacecraft (Mission to the Unknown). In War of the Daleks, some Daleks fly towards a Thal spaceship and start shooting it – “two or three together might be able to penetrate a shield somewhere” and their firepower “rocked the ship, adding to the main blasts from the two killcruisers.”

    There are Heavy Weapons Daleks with weapons that are, I believe, 50 times more powerful than normal Dalek weaponary.

    Omega Daleks are an airborn force that specialize in saturation bombing and carry large numbers of Dalekenaium bombs. A Dalekenium bomb is basically a very controlled, clean nuclear explosion (the blast radius depending on how much Dalekanium is within the bomb).

    They also have access to Deathsmith weaponary which includes the apocalypse device – an indestructable human sized being that carries every disease and virus in the universe, kills with a touch, drives beings insane with its psychic powers, etc (it eats away any metal too, even metal usually resistant to such things). Deathsmith weaponary also includes small grenades that can destroy mountains.

    The Daleks could also use a Contagium. This is a nanite-producing weapon. Anything infected by the nanites falls under Dalek control at once.

    Unshielded Daleks can withstand things “that would reduce you or me to our molecules in seconds”. Coupled with Time-War era shielding they’re pretty damn tough (Time-War era Daleks also have thicker armour than their unshielded cousins). They have shown to be unnaffected by some disintegrator weapons (Day of the Daleks comes to mind).

    Daleks have also used temporal extinction devices and Time Destructors in the past. They have the ability to turn the populations of entire planets into mental Daleks to help boost ranks. They have Temporal Disruptor weapons that can destroy TARDISes.

    On the topic of Dalek FTL travel, Time War Dalek ships are all Vortex capable. Now, although the OP forbids the Daleks traveling in time it doesn’t, as far as I can see, forbid them from accessing the Vortex itself per say. So a Dalek ship could disappear and reappear anywhere in the universe in the same instant giving them an edge against the Necrons.

    Some Dalek ships have also been demonstrated to have a chameleon circuit which can disguise the ships as, for example, asteroids, and a cloaking system.

    Pre-Time War Daleks could destroy planets with ease as evidenced with these quotes….

    Davros in orbit with one Killcruiser: “Do not anger me, Doctor! I can DESTROY YOU! AND THIS MISERABLE INSIGNIFICANT PLANET!” – Remembrance of the Daleks

    “That ship has weapons which could crack this planet like an egg.” – Remembrance of the Daleks

    “Attack Spearhead now entering outer galactic sectors. Heavy concentration of asteroid fields indicate massed planetary destruction. Radiation readings indicate destruction caused by Dalek weaponary.” – Dalek Empire 2

    “I mean, if these Daleks are all over space, shooting up planets, how come the Thals are still around?” – War of the Daleks.

    In Dalek Empire 2 two rival Dalek Empires fight each other. They have a “punished planet” policy, destroying whole worlds which refuse to join their crusade.

    They have starkillers and Deathsmith weapons which destroy stars. In Mutually Assured Survival some imprisioned humans infected with the Dalek Factor even manage to scrounge just enough Dalek technology to build a starkiller of their own and plan to use it to destroy the station they are on by blowing up a nearby star.

    Etc.

    “We do know that the Daleks created their own Eye of Harmony after the Etra Prime incident (RTD states this was the event that escalated affairs). So by the Last Great Time War the Daleks have theoretically the same power as the Time Lords.

    The Master once tried to steal a Dalek matter transmuter because, when linked to his TARDIS power source (ie Eye of Harmony), this device would have been capable of destroying entire solar systems (in Legacy of the Daleks). Since the Daleks created their own Eye, we can infer Daleks could have destroyed solar systems with ease.

    RTD states that the Daleks wielded the full might of the Deathsmiths of Goth. This means Daleks at least had access to weapons that can shatter suns, halt planets in their orbit, drive entire planets populations insane, and have access to the apocalypse device (indestructable human sized being that carries every disease and virus in the universe, kills with a touch, drives beings insane with its psychic powers, etc), and small grenades that destroy mountains.

    Daleks have also used temporal extinction devices and Time Destructors in the past. They have the ability to turn the populations of entire planets into mental Daleks to help boost ranks. They have made planets vanish into time and space. They have Temporal Disruptor weapons that can destroy TARDISes.”

    The 31st Feds dont even have something akin to transduction barriers. This is an essential device when fighting the Time Lords or Daleks because it protects your past. Without it the 31st Feds are wiped out with ease.

    They have pockets with larger insides (only one example of that if I recall), time travel, and temporal shielding. Pretty basic really. Even 60′s Daleks (in their 3rd ever story) had all that. Other temporal powers in the Whoniverse have that. Time Lords and Daleks have considerably more. Can anyone name a feat, even hyperbole, that places the Feds as anywhere near?

    Prior to shielding Daleks have survived planetary destruction in War of the Daleks. The mutant itself was dead but the casing was intact except for a small piece at the back of its dome. The Doctor also described the shell as being able to survive many things that would reduce other beings to molecules in seconds.

    Daleks from the old series could shrug off laser powered/energy weapons before they even became shielded. Coupled with shielding……who knows? Presumbably with shielding that Dalek in War of the Daleks would not have had a piece of its back dome blown off as the planet was destroyed.

    Dalek weaponary in the old series could destroy spacecraft on a high setting.
    In Mission to the Unknown they destroyed a human spacecraft and in Planet of the Daleks they destroyed a Thal spaceship. In War of the Daleks Thals have devoloped armour so that a Thal can survive a nearby nuclear strike. Dalek weaponary can penetrate the armour.

    That plunger is far more versitile than you give it credit for. It can morph into any shape, interface with computer terminals, crush peoples skulls, etc. In I am a Dalek one weaponless Dalek was forced to rely on the only thing it had, the plunger. Chaos ensured as the damn thing grabbed hold of police cars and flung them away. Opening a door or holding a rock is not beyond a Dalek, regardless of how useless the plunger may look.

    They do field other types of Daleks in battles (of course, only in the novels and such since on the tv show they haven’t actually been observed fighting any large scale battles as of yet). They also usually bombard a planet with metorites and viruses, employ economic warfare to devestate their enemy, use psychic attacks that turn the population insane or mentally turn the population into daleks by releasing the dalek factor, etc, etc.

    There are Psyche Daleks whose casings are coated with mental control crystals which function as psionic amplifiers. They can communicate telepathically and use telekinetic powers.

    There are Strider Daleks which have 8 long legs and stand 10 times taller then a normal Dalek. They are armed with 4 cannons.

    Slightly larger then normal Daleks are the Spider Daleks. They can deploy 8 legs if need be to handle terrain such as mountain sides.

    There are also a few types of Special Weapons Daleks. The Standard type are armed with a massive Pulse Gun. The weapon’s energy discharge is at least 50 times more powerful then a normal Daleks weaponary on it most powerful setting (which, as mentioned before, can destroy spacecraft). It is capable of completely vaporizing many Daleks with a single shot. There is an airborn version which has a sleeker design, and is equiped with two smaller Pulse Guns. Their design allows them to do complex arial manuvers more so than a standard type could do with its anti-gravity.

    Ranging ahead would be the Scout Daleks. These are just standard Daleks who move around at a speed of about 20mph when travelling on the ground.

    Omega Daleks are an airborn force that specialize in saturation bombing and carry large numbers of Dalekenaium bombs. A Dalekenium bomb is basically a very controlled, clean nuclear explosion (the blast radius depending on how much Dalekanium is within the bomb).

    There are also Marsh and Marine Daleks but I’ll presume that the fight takes place mostly on dry land.

    Daleks use tactics on the battlefield just as any army will. They, for example, send out assassination groups to exterminate specific enemies (eg generals, et al).

    Daleks have those globes on their outer shell. These globes act as sensers and when being used by the Dalek can detect life, moisture, movement, etc, etc. These globes can detach and fly on their own to provide remote battlefield intelligence. The globes also can act as powerful explosives. They are also part of the Daleks self-destruct system.

    The Daleks have access to the full might of the Deathsmiths of Goth. On a ground battle this means they have, at the very least, small grenades capable of destroying mountains. Depending on the seriousness of the situation the Apocalypse Device may also be used (the Deathsmiths greatest weapon that destroyed them, its an indestructable human sized being that carries every disease and virus in the universe, kills with a touch, drives beings insane with its psychic powers, etc).

    Daleks may also be able to use a Time-Destructer. The device enables Daleks to control the flow of time over a planet wide area. For example, they could age everyone to death.

    You are forgetting that Dalek ships have Temporal Disruptor weapons that can destroy TARDISes which Space Marines would not have the firepower to accomplish. Dalek ships have a much faster speed advantage both in convential FTL engines (can cross several galaxies easily enough) and due to the fact that Dalek ships can zip across time and space by accessing the Vortex. Daleks wielded the full might of the Deathsmiths of Goth meaning Daleks at least had access to weapons that can shatter suns, halt planets in their orbit, and drive entire planets populations insane. They have temporal extinction devices, can use a version of a cameleon circuit (eg the ship could look like an asteroid), can detonate stars, have psychic weaponary that can make enemies see what they most fear/desire, can use a tractor beam, and of course has a shield (which also acts as a cloaking device so enemy ships cant locate them).

    Time Lords regenerate entire limbs from scratch. They grow back internal organs like a heart for example. Damaged synapses are repaired. Time Lords can even grow back new heads after decapitation (as stated in the novels). Every molecule in every cell is changed altogether. Their DNA is part of space and time itself.

    Time Lords can trigger regeneration whenever they like. They heal incredibly fast even without the need of regeneration eg non-lethal bullet wounds (bullet is ejected out of the body), burns, broken bones, disease, etc.

    A Dalek kills them in one shot. Trust me, 8472 is impressive but not as impressive as Time Lord biology. Dalek weapons will be effective. And given the fact that Daleks have the range advantage, they could just fly and rain down death upon 8472.

    I feel confident that Time Lords could also be resistant to nanoprobes. Their bodies dispose of implants/foreign objects and their bodies are filled with self-replicating biogenic molecules thus having a self-renewing cell structure. They have quadruple helix DNA as opposed to 8472′s triple helix DNA. Unlike 8472, they also have TNA. The fourth helix extends into the fourth dimension biologically linking a Time Lord to the Web of Time/heart of space time – they are effectivly part of the laws of time and space.

    There was originally only one Eye of Harmony – the Time Lords Eye. However, the Daleks invaded Gallifray in The Apocalypse Element (audio). Though the Daleks failed in their invasion it set up events to follow. Romana swore that such a thing would not occur again ushering in the return of Time Lord competence. The Daleks destroyed and remade the Seriphia galaxy (four times as large as the Milky Way) with the element and the Daleks moved in – a good boost for their Empire. And the Daleks knowledge of time travel was improved upon considerably.

    In The Genocide Machine (audio) the Daleks invade Kar-Charratt and gain a great deal of knowledge. With the data the Daleks compilied from their invasion of Gallifray and their study of the Kar-Charrat time barrier they were able to stabilize their own Eye of Harmony. In The Time of the Daleks (audio) a fleet of 1700 Dalek time ships are featured. These are powered by the Dalek Eye in much the same way TARDISes are powered by the Time Lords Eye. The only difference between the Eyes is that the Daleks haven’t perfected theirs by Time of the Daleks and consequently its a bit less controllable than the Time Lords Eye (I doubt, for example, the Daleks would’ve been able to rewrite reality to get rid of magic at this point unlike the Time Lords who actually have done this).

    Dalekanium is only one material Dalek armour is made up of. The other is bonded polycarbide which boosts its strength up considerably. Unshielded Daleks can withstand things “that would reduce you or me to our molecules in seconds”. Coupled with Time-War era shielding and they’re pretty damn tough(Time-War era Daleks also have thicker armour than their unshielded cousins). Anyways, the Daleks would be flying above the Replicators.

    But the Daleks do have the ability to destroy the Replicators. The metal eating virus from the Deathsmiths would be very helpful in killing them all off. “Neutron Strikes can be used to detonate stars” or just “shatter the sun” with Deathsmith weaponary. Mabe infect the planets atmosphere with Dalek Factor essentially turning the Replicators into mental Daleks. If psychic weaponary is effective then the Daleks have such weapons to, for example, turn them all insane. They could slam nearby asteroids into the planet. Etc

    (End of quote)

    This is the affects of the Time War. Note, just the effects, not the direct weapons hitting them.

    (“The War raged, but for most species in the universe, life continued as normal. The War was fought in the Vortex, and beyond that, in the Ultimate Void, beyond the eyes and ears of ordinary creatures. The Lesser Species lived in ignorance. If a planet found its history subtle changing – perhaps distorting and rewriting itself under the pressures of the rupturing Vortex – then its people were part of that change, and perceived nothing to be wrong. Only the Higher Species – those further up the evolutionary ladder – saw what was happening. The Forest of Cheem gazed upon the bloodshed, and wept. The Nestene Consciousness lost all of its planets, and found itself mutating under temporal stress. The Greater Animus perished and its Carsenome Walls fell into dust. And it is said that the Eternals themselves watched, and despaired of this reality, and fled their hallowed halls, never to be seen again… “)

    Daleks crush them.

  86. Sergey January 10, 2010 at 6:20 pm -      #86

    One. Sided. Dalek. Stomp. Seriously, these IoM wankers think that the Dalek ships capable of surviving black holes would receive a dent from a battle barge? Such fanboism.

  87. Olis July 20, 2010 at 8:30 pm -      #87

    Post no. 87 was definitely tl;dr material. Waaay too long. ;P

    I never knew Daleks were this powerful… they seemed much weaker when I last looked (which was, admittedly, quite a while ago). However, despite wishing to side with the IOM, I cannot forsee a victory for them.

  88. Dr. Rockso April 26, 2011 at 7:52 am -      #88

    the daleks have insta one hit kill weapons and nearly indestructible armor suits they win this without even puting in an effort, plus if the imperium proves to troublesome (which it wouldn’t) they can time travel and dont care if they fuck up history, they could simply go back to the medeival ages of the wh40k universe and take care of everything in a matter of minutes

  89. Endar November 10, 2011 at 7:14 pm -      #89

    Love 40k and Doctor Who both.

    Assuming they don’t time travel, they’re gonna have their asses kicked by the Imperials, for one simple reason – basically every other dude is armed with something like this:
    2.bp.blogspot.com/_W1zTZKL45w0/SnCsGxtIaGI/AAAAAAAAAiM/BcEiquJDBz8/s1600/chainsword.jpg

  90. Endar November 10, 2011 at 7:22 pm -      #90

    But then again, seen with realistic eyes, the Daleks of course – in their universe, everything is so much more blown out of proportion and senselessly badass.
    The Imperium are already failing in their own universe, they don’t stand a chance against star-killing, time-travelling metal monsters that can do, well, if I read it properly above, basically anything you can think up in a crazy 70s mind.

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