Master Chief vs Samus

Master Chief vs Samus

Many requests for this one. I have to admit that I’ve played more Metroid than Halo since I am an old fart, so I am inclined to lean towards Samus. As with any Hero, they all have intangibles that help them overcome seemingly daunting tasks. With that being said, MC has accomplished more in his “career” than Samus has, but this is a head-to-head battle of weaponry and skill…So, I think it’s be very close, the one thing that MC always comes away with – Luck – gets him the win…

Master Chief:

  • Various weapon skills
  • Cool Armor
  • Decent Vehicles
  • Lone Wolf Mentality
  • Has shields to re-generate

Samus:

  • Cybernetic Power Suit
  • Space Jump Boots
  • Screw Attack
  • Form fitting Zero Suit
  • Numerous modifications to her weapons

Ok, Metroid fans, how can Samus pull this one off?

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497 Comments on "Master Chief vs Samus"

  1. brokencard14 March 9, 2008 at 1:56 pm -      #101

    I know who will win….BOTH OF THEM !!!

    -They rather fell in love first than to kill each other.

  2. Raistlin005 March 10, 2008 at 11:27 am -      #102

    Ok, so there’s definitely the two kinds of arguers here, those trying to present valid points and those just shouting idiotic foolishness. I say the argument is really quite mute. These characters are from seperate fantasy worlds, The MC’s abilities are scaled properly to take on the enemies of his world and Samus’s are appropriately tailored to hers’, which I have to stay taken out of her own context at full power she would more than be able to handle MC. It’s not a big deal, get over halo fans.

    Also, those of you complaining of about the youtube/gametrailers video portrayal of MC as a woman. If you would but read the comments of the author on Gametrailers you might remember that there were multiple Spartans and the one in the video is not necessarily the Master Chief. Thank you and please try to be less ignorant before you shout things out in the future.

  3. Robert March 10, 2008 at 1:02 pm -      #103

    Your right Raistlin005 from now on lets all hold hands and sing cume-ba-ya.

  4. Raistlin005 March 10, 2008 at 11:23 pm -      #104

    fair point, Robert. Without conflict what’s the fun in anything. But I’ve seen this argument many times before and have grown quite tired of it. But if adding fuel to the fire will make everyone happy, I really do believe that Samus would quite easily annihilate Master Chief. But I like the Master Chief too, and just don’t think it’s a fair comparison.

  5. Robert March 11, 2008 at 1:03 pm -      #105

    All right Raistlin since you believe this so much i would love to see some support on this possision of yours. (we will keep this as cival as possible) then i will give the reasons why MC would win and then we all can go home happy.

  6. Chief Mstr Sgt March 13, 2008 at 5:32 pm -      #106

    I have yet to see something that can stand up to shots from a spartan laser or a few shots from a sniper.
    At any rate this is probably the closest vs. I have seen on this site. Although I am familiar with Samus, I am not an expert on her like I am with MC. There for I would be hard pressed to make a comparison. I do know that MC and Samus both have shield-killing weapons and single hit weapons.
    Out of all these battles I think this is a prime candidate for the stale-mate category.

  7. Taylor March 15, 2008 at 4:18 pm -      #107

    I believe that somewhere in this thread, someone compared the spartan laser to Meta Ridely’s heat ray. Master Cheif may not be able to survive this weapon, but Samus has. Also, the Spartan Laser is not always a one-hit-kill. I haveused this laser on many a vehivle on and off-line, and the laser doesn’t always work. As for a sniper, if Samus’ shields can withstand a spartan laser, then a sniper round should be of little problem, as the laser is far more powerful.
    Now, I’m not saying a stale mate is not possible, but Samus’ arsenal makes such an outcome very unlikely. I would say thats about as far as Master Cheifs luck can take him. There is still chance of a victory on his side, but thats unequivically unlikely.

  8. End of Discussion March 16, 2008 at 3:15 am -      #108

    Prepare for eye bleeding.. I think.

    Ah, Samus versus Master Chief. This is one of those threads that begs for an exapost to just shut the fanboys down. Perhaps I will be the man to do it. So, I might as well start off with the definition of canon, and the discussion upon it:
    “Definition of Canon”
    can•on |ˈkanən|
    In the context of a fictional universe, the canon comprises those novels, stories, films, et cetera, that are considered to be genuine or officially sanctioned, and those events, characters, settings, et cetera, that are considered to have existence within the fictional universe.
    ORIGIN Old English : from Latin, from Greek kanōn ‘rule,’ reinforced in Middle English by Old French canon.

    So, now this begs the question: “Which is the ‘original source’?” Well, considering the books are adaptations of the game, then that would mean that the games hold precedence, do they not? So, how much of the book actually follows the ‘fictional universe’, as set forth by the games Halo: Combat Evolved (H:CE), Halo 2 (H2), and Halo 3 (H3)? Well, for one, his abilities are greatly exaggerated in the book. He can not run and react in the game as shown by the book. He doesn’t seem to have many of the augmentations that the books seem to tout off as his mainstays. I didn’t remember the Master Chief moving so fast that I couldn’t control his character; nor did anything seem to be moving slower in the game. So, going by the game as the original source, the books (and their abilities) are non-canon. Also note that the book is an adaption to the games, proving that the games take precedence where conflict occurs.

    To those of you who read my previous exapost, you did see right, I did indeed cut and paste my entire argument against the Halo books canon. Why? Because it fits and I said so. Happy? Moving on.

    Now, lets talk some about Master Chief’s in-game armaments, shall we? First off, he wears a MJOLNIR Mark V and VI armor in the games, which is designed by humans (more on that later). It is an armor that only a few can wear due to durability concerns of regular humans; for Master Chief to wear this armor he must be an extraordinary human being. Since the armor also amplifies his ‘output’, so to speak, that means that he can lift great weights in the suit. Now, Samus by comparison, is completely different. She has a suit that was designed with her, and only her, in mind. It was designed by an ancient race of technologically advanced bird people, the Chozo. This suit (by itself) has no amplifications to her body, yet she manages to jump great heights. Why is this? Because her body is infuzed with the blood of the Chozo (though the e-manga states that she was ‘transfused’ with Chozo DNA. Actually, I like that explanation more as it does make more sense. Credit to John Calvin goes to this addition, too). What does this mean? It amplifies her frail human body to superhuman standards so that she can survive on the planet of Zebes, which apparently has a harsher environment (and apparently increased gravity, greater than that of earth). While this may not sound like a lot, my colleague Saiyan Master Vegeta put this into perspective more me:
    “Saiyan Master Vegeta”
    Samus’ physical strength hasn’t been established to a great extent, however it is known that her general ability (without the suit) greatly exceeds that of a normal human being, due to her being infused with Chozo blood as a child. Judging from her enormous leaps, even just from a stand-still, I’d estimate that Samus is roughly 50 times stronger than a human being.

    That may sound like a slight stretch, but let’s look at the numbers:

    An average person can jump about 2 feet in the air from a stand-still.
    At the beginning of Metroid Prime, Samus exits her ship, and jumps at least 100 feet in the air, landing with ease afterwards. As is repeatedly stated throughout Metroid games, the Chozo blood which she was infused with gave her immense strength. It is only reasonable to believe that this strength was distributed in appropriate amounts throughout her body. Due to this, Samus should logically be about 50 times stronger than a human being.

    Now, to get a little more technical, the average adult male should be able to bench press about 150 lbs (I’m an averagely slim teenager who doesn’t work out, and I can bench 130 lbs). Going by the logic that Samus is approximately 50 times stronger than a human being, and that her additional bloodline strength was distributed in proper amounts (I.E. Her arm strength should be 50 times stronger than that of a human’s arms, and her leg strength should be about 50 times stronger than that of human legs), she should be able to bench press approximately 7500 lbs, equaling 3.75 tons.
    I’m not saying those numbers are correct, but the theory behind it is.

    Now, on to Samus’s ‘shielding’. Samus’s shield seems to work in a similar way to Master Chief’s but lacks a ‘recharge’ function. However, it seems that her suit is far more modular (as will be discussed later) and expandable than the MJOLNIR amour, by a great deal. Without going too much into her armaments (that is for another section!), I will point out that that Samus can gain ‘energy’ tanks, which increase the maximum strength of the shield. So, while she starts off with 99 energy, she can theoretically reach upwards of 2099 energy. Now put this into perspective, a missile (which is said to be of a higher yield than the Halo missiles) takes away roughly 40-50 energy, and that is with the weakest shielding (at max power that damage will be cut by around 75%), whereas one missile is enough to kill the Master Chief.

    While I’m just guessing here, I might say that ancient and technologically advanced race (moreso than the humans in Halo, Halo 2, and Halo 3) has the tech over Master Chief.

    I might say a bit about Cortana here, and why she isn’t going to be that useful in the fight. Some people (I’m sure) will bring up the whole “Master Chief will use Cortana to hack Samus and make her useless”, so let me shut this down now: Samus’s suit has been hacked by other enemies, and Samus just reboots her suit, leaving no ill effects. What would this mean for Cortana? At worst (for her) deletion, and at the very least she would be unable to hack her suit. I might also mention that Samus’s scan visor has been shown to hack into devices from a distance, with no need to directly interface with the objects themselves. So, it might very well be a valid tactic for Samus to ‘scan’ Master Chief, if only to screw him up.

    Now, on to weapons! Master Chief has an array of weapons (which will be detailed below) which seemed to be largely on ballistics, whereas Samus has moved on to energy based weaponry (though she still uses missiles). So, to make this post as eye-bleedingly long as possible, I will list every Halo weapon by game:
    Halo: Combat Evolved
    • M6D Magnum Sidearm- A small gun with a scope. Its a gun that fires tungsten bullets (apparently). However, I don’t see this doing much damage.
    • MA5B ICWS Assault Rifle- An assault rifle. It fires bullets faster. Same as the M6D in terms of effectiveness against Samus.
    • M90 Shotgun- This might do something, but only in close range. However, with Samus’s weapons and fighting style, I don’t see this happening.
    • SRS99C-S2 AM Sniper Rifle – While it does have a better scope and power (and range) than the handgun (and kills most everything with a single headshot), but I don’t think this will work that well. Why? Because Samus’s armor and her shielding are said to be superior to anything that Chief has ever faced (however, I would like it if the more Metroid-savvy would give more data on this than I have) and I don’t think this would do more than 100 energy, considering Metroid Prime: Hunters has a laser sniper rifle doing 200 damage with a headshot. I would consider a high-output laser that acts as a sniper rifle much more effective than a ballistic one.
    • M19 SSM Rocket Launcher- I’ve covered rockets before, but I’ll say it again: “a missile (which is said to be of a higher yield than the Halo missiles) takes away roughly 40-50 energy, and that is with the weakest shielding (at max power that damage will be cut by around 75%), whereas one missile is enough to kill the Master Chief.” Yes, I quoted myself. But, at least I state the facts, right?
    • M9 HE-DP Grenade- If a missile isn’t going to do much, why is a grenade going to do any better?
    Halo 2
    • BR55 Battle Rifle- Replaces the MA5B from H:CE. However, bullets still wouldn’t do much damage, as I’ve stated before.
    • M9 HE-DP Grenade- Same as H:CE, but the blast radius is apparently smaller. Oh, and it still wouldn’t work.
    • M6C Magnum Sidearm- Pretty much the same pistol we know and love from H:CE, minus the scope. Its also the same amount of worthlessness against Samus. Nothing new here.
    • M90 Shotgun- According to my sources, this has a shorter effectiveness range. This means that it would be even more worthless than the H:CE shotgun. Poor Master Chief
    • SRS99C-S2 AMB Sniper Rifle- Same as before from H:CE, but once again it seems to be powered down. Is Halo undergoing a recession?
    • M7 SMG- It fires really useless bullets really really quickly. See my point here?
    • M7S Submachine Gun- Bullets are worthless. That is the moral to this story.
    • M41 SSR MAV/AW Rocket Launcher- Yes. We already know that missiles are the most effective in Master Chief’s arsenal by now, but still don’t do that much damage to a full-powered Samus. Oh, and this missile launcher homes in. Whoopty doo.
    Halo 3
    • SRS99D-S2 AM Sniper Rifle- Apparently this is slower to fire than H2. This is getting worse and worse for the Chief here.
    • M6G Magnum Sidearm- More powerful than its H2 counterpart, and fires faster. Yes, bullets are still fairly worthless.
    • Spartan Laser- This is the only USNC weapon that I can see that is going to do any real damage here. This might do two tanks of damage (though the mother brain had a similar beam which continuously fired, knocked back people into walls (that had shielding) and didn’t stop until Samus was almost dead. Too bad spartan laser isn’t that powerful though.). Not to mention I think this thing is going to be hard to hit someone that can fly through the air indefinitely.
    • Missile Pod- Large unwieldy weapon that fires missiles. I’ve already covered missiles.
    • MA5C ICWS Assault Rifle- This new gun has a big enough clip to kill Master Chief, assuming every bullet hits. Too bad Samus’s shield at its lowest default might be considered to be four times more powerful than Master Chief’s shields.
    • BR55HB SR Battle Rifle- See Halo 2 Battle rifle.
    • M7 Caseless Sub Machine Gun- See the SMG from Halo 2.
    • AIE-486H Heavy Machine Gun Turrets- Large unwieldy weapon that fires bullets. I think this is getting repetitive, eh?
    • M41 SSR MAV/AW Rocket Launcher- No more lock on feature, larger blast radius, and doesn’t steer. Can’t Samus just dodge to the side with her onboard boosters?
    • M90A CAWS Shotgun- More powerful than the Halo 2 shotgun. Still limited range. Still fires bullets.
    • M7057 Defoliant Projector Flamethrower- I don’t see this helping either, as this weapon slows Master Chief down and can’t steer that well. Samus can just hit him from afar.

    Notice I left out the Covenant weapons? I left them out for two reasons: one, I don’t see Master Chief getting them as regular weapons, as opposed to the human weapons; two, this is going to be long enough without that list. But, complain enough and I’ll add them.

    Now, on to Samus’s weapons/abilities/equipment. Since she gets a lot of repetitive items, I’ll only list them once, as opposed to game by game. That list would be much longer than the Halo list, considering she gets the morph ball in every game:
    • Power Beam: a basic weapon. Fires balls of energy. It also seems that Covenant weapons (being based around energy themselves) cut through Master Chief’s shields at a fairly fast clip, it stands to reason that she could damage Master Chief fairly quickly.
    • Long beam: apparently gives a longer range to the power beam. This ability was never removed in another Metroid game, so it might be assumed that she internalized this upgrade permanently.
    • Spazer Beam: This beam makes Samus’s shots spread out instead of being concentrated. I might also add that this doesn’t cause the beam to lose any of its potency.
    • Wave Beam: this is electrical energy that can phase through walls. In some incarnations, it can also home in on its opponents. Electricity that can phase through Master Chief would not be pleasant.
    • Ice Beam: this beam has shown the propensity to freeze large objects solid fairly quickly. Chief-sicle? All jokes aside, I’m sure freezing Master Chief in that state would prove fatal to him.
    • Plasma Beam: This beam allows you to shoot beams through enemies. In Metroid Prime, it depicts the beam as a ray of plasma that goes forward at tremendous speed. Think of it like a plasma grenade, but coming from a gun. In the Prime games, it also seems melt enemies, regardless of their composition.
    • Dark Beam: fires beam of dark energy. Since this is ‘otherworldly energy’ it is more effective on creatures from our world (ie, light creatures). It also seems to have a ‘freezing’ effect on some creatures, too. This also runs on ‘dark ammo’. When it is out, Samus must charge the beam to fire a regular shot. Charged shots take five dark ammo regularly and have a different effect (as listed under the charge beam section).
    • Light Beam: This beam fires weapons made of ‘light energy’ (it damages things, so I assume its more than a giant flashlight). It also seems to have a burning effect on creatures. This runs on ammo, called ‘light ammo’. When it is out, Samus must charge the beam to fire a regular shot. Charged shots take five light ammo regularly and have a different effect (as listed under the charge beam section).
    • Annihilator Beam: This beam has a high rate of fire and has a homing effect, so firing in the general direction of the enemy usually guarantees a hit. This gun uses both light and dark ammo (one per shot, fiver per charge). If she runs out of one type of ammo, she must charge the weapon to fire a regular shot. She also has a charge combo with this weapon, listed under the charge beam section.
    • Nova Beam: This weapon is a high frequency beam. Before being integrated into Samus’s suit, it was used to drill through unknown materials, due to its high potency and output. Yes, so that is now on Samus’s arm.
    • Charge Beam: allows Samus to ‘charge’ her beam, increasing the potency of her weapons; it is also noted in the games that a charge beam is about as destructive as a missile. She can also combine the energy that is used to make missiles with this beam to create more destructive beams, known as beam combos:
    ____• Wavebuster: Combined with the wave beam. This allows Samus to fire a continuous wave of electrical energy at an enemy. This attack uses up 10 missiles to activate and 5 missiles per second afterward.
    ____• Ice Spreader: Combined with the ice beam. This is a missile that upon impact, with it’s concussive blast, releases a rapidly spreading sheet of ice upon the impact surface.
    ____• Flamethrower: Combined with the plasma beam.This is a continuous Charge Combo, which fires a stream of flame with an exceedingly short range, similar to the flamethrower in Halo 3
    ____• Darkburst: Combined with the Dark Beam. This attack creates an interdimensional portal that pulls particles into the interdimensional void. However, some enemies are too heavy to be pulled in and just die
    ____• Lightblast: Combined with the light beam. Immolates enemies. what more can you say?
    And now, some lovely equipment:
    • Power Suit: This suit was designed for Samus by the chozo. It has environmental defensive augmentations, such as the ability to breathe underwater indefinitely, resist Space Pirate poison, and erects an energy barrier to protect against all types of attacks from all sides. It is also noted that this suit is biological in some ways, allowing a greater interface with the suit than a mere human-machine connection. There are two main upgrades to this power suit, as well as some other upgrades, which will be listed below:
    ____• Varia Suit: This suit allows Samus to survive superheated and supercooled areas with no ill effects. This also provides resistance to acid on some of its models. In addition, damage is reduced by roughly 50%, probably due to better shielding
    ____• Gravity Suit: This protects Samus from lava and acid, and provides an additional 10-25% damage reduction (in addition to the varia suit). This also allows Samus to move at full speed anywhere, no matter what the resistance. It is noted before that lava/magma has several thousand times the viscosity of water and she doesn’t suffer any ill effect from it.
    ____• Phazon Suit: This suit resists all but the most concentrated phazon and increases the total defense percentage to 75% stronger than the previous suits.
    ____• Dark Suit: This allows Samus to survive the corrosive effects of another universe, though not completely negating the effects. This stacks on top of the Varia suit, adding a 20% protection to the shielding.
    ____• Light Suit: This suit completely negates the corrosive effects of another dimension on Samus’s body and increases her defense by an additional 5%. Since this is a direct upgrade to the dark suit, I can see why the percentage is so low.
    ____• Fusion suit: This is Samus’s suit with most of the power suit removed, actually. It is also the result of combining Samus’s DNA (and the biological parts of the suit) with metroid DNA.
    ____• PED Suit: This suit allows her to use an energy tank to go into a higher state of being, known as ‘hyper mode’. For roughly 27 seconds, she becomes invincible and all her weapons get powered up. She also receives upgrades to this form as well:
    ________• Hyper Beam: this beam is much more powerful than any other beam that she has. When charged, this gun enters a ‘machine gun’-like state and fires continuously for a few seconds.
    ________• Hyper Missile: this is a missile of pure phazon, that has a large explosion radius. It might be assumed that these missiles are on par with super missiles or greater.
    ________• Hyper Ball: this causes tendrils of electricity to emit from her morph ball form, electrocuting enemies, sometimes overloading them and causing them to explode
    ________• Hyper Grapple: Like grapple voltage (see below), Hyper Grapple is just a more powerful version.
    ____• Hazard Suit: this suit gives her additional shield as well as allowing her to survive in ‘hazardous’ environments. Ha ha I made a funny (or I’ve been at this for too long you take your pick)!
    ____• Zero Suit: This is actually the absence of a power suit. Why include this? Because having her in her Zero suit proves a few things:
    ________• She doesn’t need her suit to jump really high According to John Calvin (and my double-checking), she jumps as high as she does with hi-jump boots, meaning that she can actually jump higher than the basic power suit. One might use this to go further to back up the statement that she moves under her own power rather than the suit amplifying her power.
    ________• Her energy tanks aren’t tied to the suit, per se, but her
    ________• Her suit does not actually augment her strength or reaction time in any way, meaning that her awareness at mach speed is hers, not any sort of suit enhancement.
    • Morph ball: this item allows Samus to compress herself into a ball which is one meter in diameter. She is more mobile and harder to hit in this form than just plain running in power suit (this isn’t including the speed booster attachment, included later). There are several upgrades to this as well:
    ____• Bombs: Puts down a small bomb. She herself is resistant to the effects while it damages other enemies.
    ____• Power Bombs: this puts down a highly destructive bomb which blows up a small time later (as in about one to three seconds). This also happens to be one of Samus’s most destructive non-charge weapons, incidentally enough.
    ____• Boost Ball: Samus can charge up energy and ‘boost’ forward. This would more than likely be used as an evasive tactic by Samus, though I believe she wouldn’t need it.
    ____• Spider Ball: this allows Samus to ride along magnetic rails. In Metroid II, this limitation didn’t exist, allowing Samus to freely explore around.
    ____• Spring Ball: allows Samus to jump in ball form. Uh… “’nuff said”?
    • Missiles: need I say more? There was some talk going around about how Samus’s missiles have a higher yield than the missiles than master chief uses, but I’ll leave that to others to prove. Samus typically ends up with 255 missiles contained within her suit. In addition, the Prime games augment Samus’s missiles with homing capabilities. There also happen to be a few missile upgrades as well:
    ____• Super Missile: same as a regular missile, but five times as destructive. They also move much faster.
    ____• Seeker Missiles: this allows Samus to fire 5 homing missiles simultaneously. Yes, this is bad news for the Chief.
    ____• Ice Missiles: they are missiles that freeze things. ’nuff said
    ____• Diffusion missiles: same as ice missiles but they are charged to the point that they spread the freezing out some 15-30 feet. This freezing is apparently not limited by walls or barriers either; it just spreads right through.
    • Grapple Beam: this allows Samus to attach to certain surfaces and swing around. In Metroid Prime 3, there were some upgrades to this:
    ____• Grapple Lasso: This is an upgrade that allows Samus to ‘grapple’ onto certain objects. However, since the list of objects she can grapple is limited, I don’t this this is going to be much use, since we don’t know if it will work or not.
    ____• Grapple Voltage: allows Samus to expend her energy to electrocute her enemies. Conversely, she can drain energy from her opponents.
    • Energy Tank: think of it as a portable expansion to Samus’s energy shielding. This increases her shield’s energy by 100 points. But, spouting off numbers means nothing here unless I can make a comparison, so here it goes: if Master Chief dies from one point-blank explosion from a missile, and Samus takes roughly 40-50 damage from a missile. This means (by those numbers) that Chief would have less than 40-50 energy. Lets pin his energy at, say, 39-49. Okay, so Samus’s energy (typically) maxes out at 2099. So, lets do some math. 2099/39 and 2099/49 = 42.84 – 53.82 times the maximum damage potential that Chief can take (I know I flipped the numbers, but that is only to have them increasing; otherwise, you might have been confused, eh? Wait, you don’t know what I’m talking about? ≈_≈ Nevermind..). But wait! There’s more! Samus’s armor gives her (typically) 75% resistance to damage! So we then multiply those numbers by 4/3 (the 1/x of .75 which means we are really adding both numbers by 75% to get the new value) giving us: 57.12 – 71.76 times the damage potential that Master Chief can take. That may not seem like a lot, but that means that Master Chief is going to have to do a lot of damage to harm her with her having some 5712% more durability than him.
    • Gravity Booster: This item gives Samus even more mobility in the water (in MP2, she didn’t get a gravity suit, so think of this as a derivative).
    • High Jump/High Jump boots: doubles Samus’s already high jumping ability. Yes, this actually is a very good thing.
    • Screw Attack: this is another überweapon that can’t be overlooked. It really is one of the reasons she can immediately win the fight. The screw attack destroys most enemies in a single hit. In Super Metroid, she didn’t even take damage from anything in that form, and only few very powerful attacks could break her out of it. Her body turns into energy and she rotates extremely quickly, obliterating everything in her path. Probably even the Chief.
    • Space Jump: This allows Samus to fly through the air indefinitely by spinning rapidly. This also defends her durability as she is able to spin at such speeds that she flies through the air and yet remains unfazed. Metroid Prime had the upgrade reduced to a double jump, however.
    • Speed Booster: this allows Samus to achieve Mach 1 speed (John Calvin again corrects me, using the term supersonic speed according to the Zero Mission instruction manual. This means Mach 1 and above. “Hypersonic” speed are mach 5 and up, so it is perfectly feasible to see mach 4 as an acceptable number. However, mach 1 is already overkill for Master Chief, so I will leave it at the lowest accepted minimum). While she is at this speed, she is invincible to all but the most solid of walls. She can also instantly go to a stop without feeling any negative deceleration effects. She can also crouch while running to stop and store a ‘charge’ from this mode. When she jumps in this mode, she ‘shinesparks'; that is, flies through the air at mach speeds, charging though whatever she may come upon. In Super Metroid, she took damage from Shinesparking, as she went even faster than in speed booster mode, but this weakness was removed in other games where the speed booster made and appearance, leading one to believe that upgrades may interface with different suits in a completely different way, or that the upgrades themselves may have been at a later time.
    • Visor: this is the part of Samus’s suit that displays the HUD, and it also provides various features, such as the ability to lock on to various creatures and stay locked on. She can also lock on to a creature and dash to the side very quickly using the back-mounted rockets. This would make her far more maneuverable than the chief, I would say.

    Having covered most (I dare not say all, I know I’ve missed some) of the items, I think it a fair bit to say that Samus does indeed have more abilities than Master Chief. So, from here, I will attempt to dissect some key areas and determine a winner: Weaponry, Strength, Speed, and Durability (WSSD, or Walter Sullivan Steals Dudes if you want a bad tribute to Silent Hill).

    So, for the weaponry section, I’ll give it to Samus for the sheer fact that she never runs out of ammo, she has a wider array of weapons than Master Chief, and her weapons appear to be more destructive than the weapons that Master Chief carries. It also appears that the ability to carry 255 missiles and can rapid fire them trumps anything that chief has anyway.

    Before I start however, I might want to list the debate rules I go by when I try to determine a winner. I’m not forcing anyone to follow these rules, but I am showing you them so that you can get an idea of where my argument comes from:
    “Guidelines for Objective and Open-Minded Debate (G.O.O.D.)”
    All of these rules are subject to being stated null or void by the thread creator, and ONLY by the thread creator, at the beginning of the thread.

    Neutrality

    Assume that the battleground is neutral, with physics allowing the use of any character’s abilities, but eliminating any skill or item that requires a specific area, opponent, or time, or type of fight to be activated or used.
    Assume damage will be a constant. Between different health value systems, treat damage as a relative value. This does not negate established immunities, barriers, or shielding against attack types.

    Items

    Assume that the character is equipped with the best of his or her equipment. In the case of inventory items in RPG style, it is up to the thread creator to choose what they are given, or if they are given anything.
    Assume that there are no items or power-ups laying around the battlefield for either character to pick up or use, unless there are items or power-ups for BOTH characters to use.

    Sources

    The original, canonical source will have precedence over any secondary or non-canon sources in the case of discrepancies. If there is a novel based on a game, and the novel’s version of the hero conflicts with the version seen in the game, the game holds precedence.
    You must state what source you are using for your evidence. Should no evidence exist to either prove or disprove an argument, logic and neutral physics and reasoning will be used.

    Assistance

    Assume that the only characters in the battle are the ones stated by the topic creator, and that any assistance to a character from outside sources will immediately result in a forfeit.
    This includes, but is not limited to, party members and summons, as well as abilities that require the help of a party member or other character to use.

    The Start of the Fight

    Assume that each character is starting with full health. Any energy bars which recharge automatically will also be full. Any energy bars which start off empty in the game and must be charged through either combat or an item will start off empty.
    Assume that neither character has previous knowledge of their opponent’s skills or abilities, but do start off with knowledge that their opponent exists and that they must fight, regardless of situation or personality.
    Assume that a character’s skill is at a level they should be at, based off of existing evidence, and that an outside “player” is not a factor. For the sake of the topic, these are real people, not played characters.

    The End of the Fight

    The fight is won when a character has killed their opponent, removed their opponent from battle, or incapacitated the opponent to the degree that they cannot continue fighting. Resurrection is not an option. When a character has died, they have lost, whether they can be resurrected or not.
    If a character retreats from battle, either to another area or another time period, they forfeit the battle.
    In order to avoid time paradoxes, a character is never allowed to travel back in time to kill their opponent when they were a child, because if they did that, the opponent would never have existed, thus negating the need to go back in time, so the character would never have done it, which would mean the opponent was not killed so the battle is happening anyways.

    For the strength section, even though Samus is augmented to be very strong, I will give it to Cheif. I will, however, point out that such an attribute is useless. Why? Lets think about this logically: are you going to grapple someone in a gunfight? No, it is rather pointless to do so, especially if point-blank blows from hugs statues made of stone (probably equaling several tons anyway) don’t seem to do that much damage. Another reason this is useless is because Samus is far more agile than Master Chief, making most of his attacks useless anyway. So, even though Chief is stronger, it really is a moot point because you aren’t going to grapple in a gunfight.
    Speed. Samus can run at mach1. Chief can not. Simple as that. To those of you who say that Chief can react faster than Samus, I’ll say this: she remains comfortably cognizant at mach speed. This means that she reacts faster than than your silly ‘shoot her in the head instantly’ tactic. Also, while I’m on that subject, I might bring up that your whole ‘aim-dead’ argument is silly too because the bullet needs to travel through the air. So, its more like ‘aim-pull trigger-travel through air” than that. Seriously, if he could aim and they die, then he would have to have a gun that fires bullets capable of superluminous speeds.
    Durability is a hotly debated issue, but I don’t think it really matters who survived what, considering that they don’t have an atmosphere to fall through. It might also be mentioned that those where ‘lucky’, as fans are so fond of saying. However, there will be no deus ex machina in this match, so chances of getting ‘lucky’ shots are reduced to none. Also considering my previous durability arguments, I’m not sure Master Chief is durable enough to win this fight. I call durability in favor of Samus.

    So, in conclusion (and not summarization, that would defeat the purpose of this post. I wanna see your eyeballs sweat when you read this!) I don’t think there is much Master Chief can do to Samus, while conversely there is much Samus can do to Master Chief to do him in, and I’m sure you’ll see it my way too if you read this entire post, but I doubt many of you will. Some people don’t like to face the truth, I’m afraid.

    Actually, at this point, I’m fairly sad that this isn’t longer than my ‘Link vs. Master Chief’ post, because I feel as if I put some work into this.. so sad.

    – Excellent post!, BankGambling Team.

  9. Chief Mstr Sgt March 17, 2008 at 6:18 am -      #109

    I did initially suspect that Samus would win. After more review (including reading the previous post) I will definitely have to give it to her. Yes, MC is still my favorite. Great work End of Discussion.

  10. cyberghost115 March 19, 2008 at 5:35 pm -      #110

    Alex is right… chief is super strong, trained from youth…he would win….
    BY the way..the moron who said cheif could be killed with a rocket is wrong. He has fallen from a pellican at HIGH altitudes and servived (crashed) (free fall) …One rocket my ass. Do some research on chief.

  11. cyberghost115 March 19, 2008 at 5:36 pm -      #111

    ALl you hardcore halo fans…the movie is in production

    Peter jackson in charge
    Neil Bloomkamp is the director
    and their is an 8 min video on youtube from the halo movie (actual footage, which may be used for the acutal movie) go to youtube look up halo movie..look for vid. that is 8 min long

  12. Chief Mstr Sgt March 19, 2008 at 9:32 pm -      #112

    Dude, that 8 min video is a fake. They used the halo landfall video.
    It has nothing to do with the halo movie that might or might not come into being.

  13. Taylor March 24, 2008 at 10:13 pm -      #113

    cyberghost, have you played Halo? Rockets are one of the most dangerous weapons in the game. Why? Because they can kill almost anything in on hit, and the Chief is on that list. In one of the books, he was able to deflrct a missle at close range, but his armor was dissabled and he was temporarily removed of the strengths taht made him super.

  14. Taylor March 24, 2008 at 10:14 pm -      #114

    And yes, chief had been trained starting at a young age. 6 to be precise. And though Samus was not trained at the age of six, she still has had more training than MC. Samus began fighting at age 4.

  15. Taylor March 24, 2008 at 10:14 pm -      #115

    If your going to demand research be done, cybergohst, you had better site your own sources. Technically, HIGH altitude is about half a kilometer. In the game he just barely survived a 2 km fall, and had to be rebooted afterwards. I cant say how much of a fall Samus can survive, but i doesn’t matter; she can fly.

  16. KypDurron March 26, 2008 at 11:13 am -      #116

    If you read the ghosts of onyx, one of the spartans in a suit of mjolnir armor gets vaporized by a hunters gun. Samus could take several hits like that.

  17. damasterchief March 26, 2008 at 11:28 pm -      #117

    I say they would rather f#ck each other than fight…

    yea…. i say mc would blow off her helm and mc would pull off his helm

    and you get it….

  18. anonymous March 30, 2008 at 10:18 am -      #118

    samus would kick mc’s #ss if you no what i mean samus is the best fighter i have seen - edited for language admin

  19. argus April 3, 2008 at 1:44 pm -      #119

    The official answer is:If they fight they mostlikely will do it of jealousy over each other.They will
    mostlikely be able to beat each other.And when the world ends there will only be MC and Samus to start a new race of super humans.

  20. Todd April 8, 2008 at 7:39 am -      #120

    MC can Defeat anyone. just pull out the SCARAB GUN!!! blow th FXXX out of them! MC defeats every onejust like that easy as pie!!!
    lol

  21. BOB April 9, 2008 at 3:13 pm -      #121

    THEY WOULD JUST HAVE IT

  22. Dingo 3 April 13, 2008 at 3:19 am -      #122

    Even match, or Samus gets a lucky shot with her cannon, but MC’s got to have something to match that. I don’t know much else about Samus, so even match for now.

  23. Taylor April 14, 2008 at 10:42 am -      #123

    No way even match. Samus is way better armed. If master Chief could activate the halos without dying, then they might be more powerful than Smaus, but suicide doesn’t count as a victory. Chef’s most powerful weapon is the barel of a scorpion tank, but samu’s power bombs have equal if not greater power, greater radius, and in a smaller, more agile target.

  24. kypdurron23 April 15, 2008 at 9:13 am -      #124

    I would love to see what MC would do if he fell into phazon.

  25. fearless agony April 23, 2008 at 8:35 pm -      #125

    if u want 2 c em face off truly goto youtube.com,then tipe in halo VS metroid prime.the ending sucks but the shootin n blastin is over the top! oh! once the results cum up then look 4 a vid calld HALOID,click on the vid n wach away! oh again! mc should win in my case
    injoy the vid :mrgreen:

  26. Jack April 25, 2008 at 1:40 pm -      #126

    They already fought… in bed. They were having fun when she got pregnant. You never saw the ending of Halo 2?!?!?! You know, when Chief cuts Arbiter’s hand off and says, “Arbiter, I am your Father”

    “Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!”

  27. Tfk fan April 27, 2008 at 6:45 pm -      #127

    Samus would own own his noob a$$! She could just shoot the ice beam and use him to get up to a higher platform.

  28. Taylor April 29, 2008 at 12:53 am -      #128

    Was that a deleted scene. That might have been one of the fake Halo movie previews floating around.

  29. Alex May 6, 2008 at 3:47 am -      #129

    Samus by far. MC is just an above average soldier whereas samus is a super enhanched warrior.

  30. metroid bob May 12, 2008 at 8:38 am -      #130

    Samus fires missiles that lock on, meaning dodging is pointless, and in Halo, a missile or two, and it’s game over for masterchief.
    Samus on the other hand, has numerous energy tanks, and could probably survive until masterchief runs out of ammo in whichever two guns he decides to use in this battle.

    One of samus’s normal charged shots would probably take down masterchief’s shields with one hit.

    And if masterchief gets too close, Samus can just screw him (with a screw attack, which will rip through his shields, and either just knock him out, or rip through his armour as well)

  31. Dohz May 13, 2008 at 4:39 pm -      #131

    It’s blatantly obvious that most of the people who support the “MC pwns everything” stance have very little knowledge of Samus and the Metroid universe. Alos, the lack of basic knowledge of spelling and grammar is astonishing. Samus’ arsenal is massive, more massive than what people assume. It not only composes of basic weapons that would kill MC before he can draw a weapon – countless missiles and super missiles, plasma beam, power bombs – but includes some advance weapon upgrades such as the darkburst – the ability to summon a black hole anywhere near MC and suck him into oblivion – and the hyper mode phazon beam which would completely incinerate him before he could fall to the ground. Let’s not forget that Samus has no less than 20 energy tanks with energy tank reserves should those become depleted while MC has a scrawny little health shield that goes out after a few hits. She has lock-on, visors that can detect cloaked enemies and enemy heat signatures (thermal visor), assess weaknesses (scan visor), see and shoot through walls (X-ray visor and Nova beam) and even see between dimensions (dark visor). All this is only a portion of her arsenal. Give MC all of his weapons and he still wouldn’t stand a chance against the most basic Samus let alone a fully armored one.

  32. Ask ur self May 13, 2008 at 5:18 pm -      #132

    :mrgreen: Samus would own MC 1 inialayeter shot and all MC is, is a bunch of rubble I would like to see Sephiroth VS MC now that would be cool
    :razz:

  33. spf expert May 21, 2008 at 2:23 pm -      #133

    All you people saying they would f#ck or some sh!t like that are obviously halo fanboys that know samus would totally beat the sh!t out of MC. I’ve played Halo & Metroid, frankly I think Halo is way overrated. A lot of you Halo fans obviously have never played a Metroid game or else you’d have more evidence to backup your BS views on who would win in a fight. I do agree that Samus has a great chance of losing if none had their suits because MC uses carried weapons, but when would that ever happen? – edited for language, admin

  34. spf expert May 21, 2008 at 2:46 pm -      #134

    Also did any of you who played MP2 forget about the annihilator beam or the nova beam in MP3? And let’s not forget the special power ups like the sun burst which create a scorching sun, dark burst which creates a small blackhole, or the sonic boom. Of course there is always the various hypermode weapons. Still think MC would win fanboys?

  35. spf expert May 21, 2008 at 3:09 pm -      #135

    Let me just ask you Halo fans something, why would it p!ss you off so much if MC was a chick like in the Haloid video? Does it really matter to you that much? Do you just prefer your heroes with 8=D s or what? Do you prefer them to be big hairy men? Just wondering, I mean who didn’t like the first Perfect Dark game(you play as a chick). I’d start questioning my sexuality if I were you. Believe me, I wrote this for your own good.

  36. lx N0WH3R3 xl May 21, 2008 at 4:55 pm -      #136

    there is a video but instead off mc being a girl they would still do it probably :smile:

    my gamertag is lx N0WH3R3 xl type in my name on myspace tv to watch my vids please comment :cool:

  37. spf expert May 22, 2008 at 3:22 am -      #137

    Y’know all sh!t talking aside, a game where they join together would be pretty badass. Wish it were possible. The closest we’ll ever get to a major crossover is Snake in smash bros. Combining the two series together would even beat out GTA4 & maybe COD4. Metroid=badass bosses Halo=badass vehicles Metroid=badass enemies Halo=badass multiplayer CONCLUSION: Halo + Metroid=One Badass Game. Who’s with me? Wow, I said badass a lot.

  38. JUDAS May 23, 2008 at 1:11 pm -      #138

    IT’S ALL ON YOUTUBE!!!

  39. Spartan 117 May 24, 2008 at 2:46 am -      #139

    Well seeing you point I’m beginning to think more on the subject, but I belie I have to say the chief has more of a chance.

    I state a few reasons,

    1: He can use any weapon, vehicle, and device.
    2: He has extreme knowledge on the battlefield, and of warfare.
    3: He has superhuman strength
    4: He managed to hold of all the flood on installation 04, take out an armada of Covenant, hold of setinals, cause a madcat explosion, and escaped it
    5: At the age of 8 on a training mission he thought up a strategy, beat down men (actually un-uniformed UNSC personnel) with stones, and hijacked the dropship.
    6: At the age of 14 he was given the mission to capture the rebel commander.
    7: Had over 200 missions.
    8: Personally nuked a planet.
    9: Has had all medals except the POW medal.
    10: Is the bravest and the luckiest of the spartans.
    11: Jumps into space with holding live ordinance that could take out a capital cruiser, and leads it into a carrier,
    destroys it, escapes, and lands on the Forward Onto Dawn.
    12: Suvived 3 jumps, the Halo CE life pod (only survivor),
    Halo 2 HEV pod (straight into the line of fire), Halo 3,
    a forerunner door.
    13: Plowed through hundreds of covies, with little difficulty.
    14: Took down at least 6 scarabs single handedly, 2 of which he attacked at the same time.
    15: Took back VOI.
    16: Went to the center of a flood ship to recover what he thought was cortana.
    17: Demolished the brutes on the Ark, disabled two of the shields leading to the center.
    18: Reached truth with assistance from the flood.
    19: killed the flood to retreat, helped by setinals.
    20: Ran straight through High Charity, alone, the home to the flood, got cortana, and escaped after he had damaged High Charity.
    21: Fought his way through a hailstorm of flood and reached the control center, where he killed 343.
    22: drove all the way to the Forward On to Dawn, with the ground collapsing around him.
    23: Survived halos activation, floated into a cryo pod.
    24: He is known to have had a fight with ODSTs after they got pissed at being beat by someone younger. Angry the ODSTs used live ordinance, it is stated that the Spartan killed 3 of the ODSTs and severely injured one, and this was when he was still training.

    I think these are reasons enough,
    so what if Samus is invulnerable, can roll into a ball, and has built in weapons. I don’t really think she uses anything other than what her suit gives, the chief on the other hand, improvises and uses what he finds.

  40. Some Guy Who Doesn't Understand May 25, 2008 at 9:13 pm -      #140

    Can you really tell yourself that Samus does not improvise? In a couple of the games she finds herself without her suit…and what does she do there? She improvises.

    Trust me, the match would be a closer battle than you Halo fans would think…

  41. dark lord May 27, 2008 at 9:54 am -      #141

    i will admit that it would be a close fight and a have played both halo and metroid and have come to the conclution that they would never f#cking meet anyway so who gives a sh!t and copycat you’r anoying like hell dude STFU dammit. and samus isn’t stronger then mc and for the ppl who say she’l turn into a ball heres what I would do if she did that, play soccer with her serious like mc would lose to a ball. also samuses armour can be broken and mc is in actuality very fast and agile. he’s dumbed down in the game to make it more of a game if you always had his super strength a baby would be able to turn the game over on legendary one hit kills all the time not fun for a game dammit - edited for language, admin

  42. missing dougnut May 27, 2008 at 10:32 am -      #142

    Rofl copter MC wins cause girls cant fight

  43. Al May 27, 2008 at 10:08 pm -      #143

    Ummm, freeze beam, anyone? It has been proven that MC can be frozen with his armor on (Come on, he comes out of cryo-stasis in the first game!) So all Samus has to do is freeze the dude, Shoot a few super missiles (which can crack through solidly locked bulkheads, by the way,) at him, if that didn’t kill him, freeze him some more, repeat. And If she somehow runs out of super missiles, she can always use her 100+ regular missiles to blow himapart, while keeping him frozen. any questions?

  44. Al May 30, 2008 at 4:15 pm -      #144

    Wow, I think I silenced the fanboys. Cool. :shock:

  45. Aaron Benedetti May 31, 2008 at 12:21 pm -      #145

    Samus would win because she has boobs

  46. Al May 31, 2008 at 12:29 pm -      #146

    You….ugh. How can master chief even see her boobs? Everyone and their dog thought that Samus was a Guy when they first played the game (unless you were told otherwise). So I’m pretty sure that chief would also think that Samus would be a guy. Sex shouldn’t be a factor here.

  47. Aaron Benedetti June 1, 2008 at 3:25 pm -      #147

    MasterChief knows that Samus is a girl because the arbiter told him while they were playing Super Smash Bros on Johns nintendo wii. (if u are sad enough to be on a “masterchief vs” forum you will probably know what im talking about)

  48. Al June 1, 2008 at 6:49 pm -      #148

    Uhhhhhhh……wtf?

  49. poop June 3, 2008 at 12:34 pm -      #149

    oh samus can regenerate health after damage too btw :]
    you can do it on super metroid, although it is only used when ALL ELSE FAILS.

  50. Galinoth June 3, 2008 at 7:15 pm -      #150

    for any of you who said MC would win you obviously haven’t played any of the metroid games. samus can automatically download basically any technology anywere and second off, you who say ‘MC can wield anything and drive anything’ you’re an idiot, in the game how many weapons can you have at one time let me recall….. only TWO!!!!! samus can integrate her weapons and kick MC’s little green @$$! she can wield and obtain practically anything, she is most defiantly the victor.

  51. Raxas June 3, 2008 at 7:25 pm -      #151

    I have to agree with galinoth. Samus can shoot through walls, for crying out loud! Also, someone said that MC can win because he holds 2 guns, and samus has 1 gun. It has multiple weapons programmed into it. MC is genetically engineered and trained. So was Samus.
    Those of you who who talk S*** about Samus saying it would be an easy win for MC have DEFINATELY never played Metroid.

  52. halo freak(madden4605) June 4, 2008 at 10:39 pm -      #152

    :shock:

  53. dark lord June 5, 2008 at 9:55 am -      #153

    i’ve played metroid and i’ve read mc novels. you would never and i mean never want to fight him he would break you in half serious he does that to armored foes and he still tears them in two he’s deadly

  54. missing dougnut June 5, 2008 at 10:39 am -      #154

    samus is little bicth MC would spank that #ss sooooooo bad she would yearn for his mighty ring and he be all like h3ll no biacth me no want aids THE END :lol:

  55. dannyrl June 5, 2008 at 3:31 pm -      #155

    i would hav to say samus would win even though i am a die hard halo fan 1. she has more firepower and more advance suit 2. she is far to overpowered and to far in future for mc to fight 3. samus would beat ironman
    and mc is actually brave with or without his suit because if u read the books it says he did missions at a young age in on armour like he has now

  56. mc...hammer?? June 8, 2008 at 1:12 am -      #156

    samus and chief would have s3x and there would be alot of little chiefs every where… then when she is not looking mc shoots her with a scarab gun

  57. Al June 8, 2008 at 9:39 am -      #157

    again, what is it with you people wanting to have samus and MC together. What you play out in your head should stay there. This is supposed to be a straight up battle, not some fantasy land.

  58. Tanner June 13, 2008 at 12:27 pm -      #158

    heres what happens

    mc (dude…wtf happened to my coffee)
    samus (my bad dude…dank it)
    mc (oh hell no)
    grunt (i have a big grunty thirst)
    samus and mc team up and kick the crap out of pikachu…the end???!?!?!1

  59. josh June 14, 2008 at 12:05 pm -      #159

    samus would own masterchief. masterchief may have been trained from the age of six but samus has been trained since she was 4!!!! samus has way better weapons and armor. They are even in skill. so the winner is obviously SAMUS!! :smile:

  60. gravemind94 June 20, 2008 at 12:26 pm -      #160

    master chief would blow samus’s head off with a shotgun!!!! :smile:

  61. thestudmuffinkid June 20, 2008 at 12:30 pm -      #161

    :twisted: the winner would be the one on top when they f#ck haha

    – edited for language, admin

  62. xxBUTCHERxxx June 20, 2008 at 12:33 pm -      #162

    if they did have $3x what would their kidz look like?

  63. gravemind94 June 20, 2008 at 3:12 pm -      #163

    samus was orphaned at the age of 3 when some mutant aliens glassed her planet!!! master chief was in the military since the age of 6 master chief is a dual-wielding killing machine!!! and samus is a whore!!

  64. The Covenator June 20, 2008 at 9:02 pm -      #164

    :mrgreen: samus would get naked and they’d have $3x!!!

  65. FRAGG PIT June 20, 2008 at 9:03 pm -      #165

    if they did a Samus vs Solid Snake it’d be Mr. and Mrs. Smith all over again!!!!!!!! :grin:

  66. P996C4S June 21, 2008 at 3:13 pm -      #166

    :mrgreen: Yea they’d have rough $3x!!!!!!

  67. ARBITER RULLZZ!! June 21, 2008 at 3:19 pm -      #167

    Actually i think samus would get naked!!!!!! and BANG!!!!! :mrgreen:

  68. imgabe June 21, 2008 at 3:22 pm -      #168

    MC would kill samus and f*&k her!!!!!

  69. jerkstore June 21, 2008 at 9:08 pm -      #169

    haloid is master chief (chick actually) and samus fighting, them acting like lesbians, and then sh!tty dancing, which im not saying i hate the video, the fighting part was cool but everything after MC and samus kill Covenant is crap so basically so haloid isn’t the answer to them fighting. i think they’d f#ck each other than fight.

    – edited for language, admin

  70. snakeeater June 21, 2008 at 11:36 pm -      #170

    :mrgreen: they should make a samus vs snake

    – added to the list, thanks! Admin

  71. samus sucks June 21, 2008 at 11:40 pm -      #171

    MC would incinerate samus w/ a flamethrower, or laser her w/ a spartan laser!!!!!! :mrgreen:

  72. William June 22, 2008 at 9:32 pm -      #172

    mc is nothing without his armor but samus is.she is an super athlete because of her training and has a paralyzer and plasma whip

  73. miller June 22, 2008 at 9:45 pm -      #173

    mc i nothin without his suit take it away and he can be killed by shizune from naruto or azulas friends. they should make tsunade vs mc or naruto vs mc or mariah carey vs mc just kidding about mariah but not abou tsunade she will crush him

    – added to the list, thanks! Admin

  74. go arbiter June 23, 2008 at 11:51 am -      #174

    this would be a battle of who is cooler not a fight to the death but mc vs the arbiter!!! :mrgreen:

  75. arbiter117 June 23, 2008 at 12:01 pm -      #175

    they should make a master chief vs arbiter, though i think this would be a battle of who is cooler, not a fight to the death :mrgreen:

    – while we value input from our readers, the matchups presented are those that won’t likely occur in the entertainment universe – admin

  76. daarbiter June 24, 2008 at 12:06 pm -      #176

    well first off, MC would kick samus A$$ into next dimmension, but arbiter vs predator would be awesome!

    – added to the list, thanks! Admin

  77. Sangheilios June 25, 2008 at 12:56 pm -      #177

    Just so you all know, in Haloid, that’s not the Chief, that’s Nicole from DOA4 (you can see her SPARTAN number on the back if you look closely enough) and the Chief is superior to the other Spartans overall, therefore if Nicole can stalemate a fight with Samus, Chief could beat her. But as the video suggests, in all likelihood they would be impressed by each other’s ability so much that a mutual respect would be achieved, and they would not kill one another but rather work together.

  78. vaan June 26, 2008 at 6:06 pm -      #178

    their like the same except ones a chick

  79. aguywithnoname June 26, 2008 at 8:22 pm -      #179

    Samus would smear master chief all across the continent. Master Chief would have no idea what he was up against while Samus would know his every strength and weakness within two seconds due to the scan visor. She would than concentrate a stream of TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY MISSLES at his cheast or head, overload his shields and blow him apart. And if Chief runs out of ammo he has no choice but to punch her while samus has unlimited ammo. She could use the darkburst to pull him into a black hole and your done. And if by some miricle he does manage to destroy her suit. He would just stare at her while she tears him to pieces. If all else fails remember the power of the 2D power bombs. Bye bye chiefy.

  80. william June 27, 2008 at 7:51 pm -      #180

    please add these mc vs tsunade,mc vs. azula and friends and mc vs shizune also mc vs. kimimaro.kimimaro and tsunade are the best if anything before the others put them on

    - all added to the list, they’ll be here soon. Admin

  81. Eh July 2, 2008 at 3:27 am -      #181

    This fight is far from fair.
    Samus has uber-equipment, while MC has BELIEVABLE armaments.

  82. John Rambo July 6, 2008 at 4:58 am -      #182

    mc can just (depending on the place where they fight) take some high ground and paint the walls red with samus brain. T-bag!!!

  83. ubercow July 7, 2008 at 2:04 am -      #183

    Gotta hand this one to MC, although this is by far the closest battle. They have similar strengths and weaknesses.

    If Bungie feels like going back to Nintendo… how f#cking awesome would it be to play through Halo as Samus!? Give her a secondary Assault Rifle to accompany her cannon… come on bungie… make a quick buck!

    – I think we all agree it’d be sweet for that setup – but Nintendo knows it’s cash cow trio (Link. Mario and Samus) are always available to make $$$. Admin

  84. gosangheili July 7, 2008 at 12:22 pm -      #184

    Samus would be like Chief we can do this if we work together. and MC says F*** YOU B****!!! BURN IN HELL! AND INCINERATE HER TO DEATH!!!!

  85. SPACK July 11, 2008 at 12:43 am -      #185

    First off, i am a huge halo fan and a huge metroid fan, so this topic is difficult for me and i am trying to remain completely unbiased in this discussion.

    To start, lets weigh the durability and resistance of both MC and Samus. MC’s armor is a MARK IV Mjolnir armor, manufactured by humans and can withstand bullets, energy blasts, and a variety of other weapons. His armor has a shield that can be drained by continuous weapon fire, sudden explosions, or other weapon fire. Overall, he is safe as long as he can find cover. Samus’s armor was manufactured by an alien race known as Chozo’s, who’s techonology was advanced beyond comparison, possibly equalling the forerunners. Her armor can withstand all weapon types, as she faces energy bursts, bullets, rockets, and brute forces. Her armor has a type of “health”, simply put, that can be drained and replenished by health powerups.

    After knowing this, Samus’s armor is remarkably stronger than MC’s. Samus takes fire from all weapon types, and withstands long boss battles. This isn’t saying MC’s armor isn’t strong, but Samus’s armor is just overwhelming. Master Chief’s armor can be beaten to a pulp by one punch from a brute, or completely demolished by one rocket. Samus has taken rockets from multiple bosses and survived, she has taken beatings from colossal bosses and still lived, and she can survive anything that MC can, from the covenant to the flood to anything else.

    Now, let’s compare weapon possibilities.

    MC has a variety of weapons available to him, from rocket launchers to sniper rifles to spartan lasers. He can hold 2 of 4 types of grenades, and can pickup any weapons around him. Samus has an arm cannon, which can fire 4 beam (energy) weapons, 250 missiles, 4 beam/missile combinations, power mines, power bombs, grappling beam, and the famous screw attack. I think master chief has a minute chance, but he can only hold 2 weapons and 8 grenades. Samus has a total of 13 weapons, consisting of 250 missiles and beam weapons which never run out of ammo. Not to mention, samus has a collection of other abilities including the morph ball, dash attack, double jump, continuouse jump, and multiple visors which allow 4 different means of sight. If health was not a problem for either of them, samus would win in the end because of unlimited ammo.

    In the end, even though i am a huge HALO fan, samus would win the fight. She can take more damage, she can dish out more damage, she is more agile, and she is overall more versatile than MC. Samus would win, but MC would put up a good fight.

  86. Just A Gamer July 11, 2008 at 10:41 am -      #186

    Alright, I’ve been trying like hell to keep out of this, especially after I read all criticism of the Halo book *which I personally loved and consider to be a far more accurate representation of real Spartan 117(Master Chief)* If I had to say something was inaccurate it would be the Halo games, because the so severely down play the true abilities of Master Chief. Which is understandable, because if they made the chief as strong as he should be the game wouldn’t be any fun. Especially the single player campaign mode. You’d be able to slaughter everything with relative ease on any difficulty, you’d be capable of hiding and moving so swiftly nothing could stop you, and another reference from the books – you could tear apart a mech with your bear hands imagine what you could do to like a tank *or in this case Samus’s armor*, not to mention how annoying would it be to be playing multi player get a perfect head shot and watch you bullet bounce off his helm. Just saying but that would make for a crapy game, right? Ok, so now that I’ve got that point across, I hope you all understand that Master Chief is nowhere near as weak as he’s made out to be on the games.

    Now, I am a huge fan of Halo, I am also a huge fan of Metroid. I’m 20 I’m the right age to have fully experienced both games, I love them both pretty equally. The only two factors to make me like Halo and Master Chief more is Metroid is on Nintendo and I like the Halo plot and story a lot more.

    So as far as who would in a battle, if you’re going solely by cannon its Samus hands down. In the game she’s far more powerful and can take far more damage than Master Chief, not to mention how much more advanced she is then him. I don’t know what time from the future exactly she comes from but its way past the time of Master Chief and Halo. So in that sense this fight isn’t even fair, but even with all that advantage and power, I still firmly believe that on a one on one fight with the “real chief” from the books, it could be anyones fight. It would be far too close to call or assume you have the answer. Master Chief is just too strong, too smart, and too resourceful to be taken out as easlily as you asume he would be. He’s fought impossible odds on numerous occasions with no help and came out on top with no problem. Samus may just be another notch on his belt.

    Until they make a game where you fight the two against each other you’re never going to know because frankly were not the creators of the game nor are we the publisher or the nerds who are going to get to decide who’s better when they make this not yet existent game.

    Ohh yea, one more thing.. “F#CK YA’ALL AND CANNON BULLSH!T, YOU BE NOTHIN BUT CANNON FODDER TO THE CHIEF”

  87. drmcosker July 11, 2008 at 11:11 am -      #187

    Samus would destroy master chief 1st of all she has at least 10 energy tanks (i havent played in a while so dont yell at me if im wrong) each have 99 hp. mc just has a regenerating shield that will go down after 2 hits. plus samus is more flexible and much faster than mc and a few hits from some missile would bring the end of mc and if i can rmmbr correctly the missiles lock on so yeah samus would win

  88. spartan001 July 15, 2008 at 8:57 pm -      #188

    i say tie.

  89. spartan001 July 16, 2008 at 4:43 pm -      #189

    Asdf thats an awesome vid, every1 check it out

  90. HALO BOY July 16, 2008 at 11:53 pm -      #190

    i think mc would kick her A$$ really badly!!

  91. spartan001 July 17, 2008 at 9:05 pm -      #191

    if they saw eachother, theyd team up and play hacky sack with the gravemind together after they blasted general greveious to Naboo.

  92. spartan001 July 18, 2008 at 12:56 pm -      #192

    theyd get married and then go to Alegesia and use Gabotorix’s army as a giant football.

    Which reminds me, request MC vs Eragon.

    added to the list, thanks! Admin

  93. spartan118 July 26, 2008 at 4:42 am -      #193

    YEA A SWORD WOULD SLICE THRU SAMUS ARMOR EASILY!!! MC WOULD BLOW THAT B!TCH BACK TO HELL!!! THEN T-BAG HER BODY TILL SHE DIED AGAIN!!!

  94. RYU July 26, 2008 at 4:45 am -      #194

    READ FALL OF REACH MC TOOK DOWN 4 (I HAVENT READ THE BOOK IN A WHILE SO I DONT KNOW IF IT WAS 4) ODSTs ON HIS OWN!!! INFILTRATED A REBEL UNSC BASE!!! AND ARMED A NUKE!! MC DOES HAVE A LOT OF COMBAT OUTTA HIS ARMOR!! AS FOR SAMUS… SHES A STUCK-UP DEAD-BEAT WH@RE!!!!!

  95. yummyyummy17 July 26, 2008 at 5:10 am -      #195

    MC IS WAYYYYYYY MORE POWERFUL THAN SAMUS!!! MC WOULD BLOW THAT B!TCH BACK TO HELL!!!! :twisted: oh and i think arbiter vs predator would be cool!

  96. King Ghidorah OWNS! July 28, 2008 at 9:51 pm -      #196

    Even Fight…. Even fight :cool: . Samus is BEAST! :cool: MC is BEAST :cool: ! BIG fan of both! :mrgreen: :!: :!: :!:

  97. guest July 29, 2008 at 1:30 pm -      #197

    spartan118, RYU, and yummyyummy17, I have only this to say:
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  98. person July 29, 2008 at 5:01 pm -      #198

    When I talk about MC, it’s always book MC, because that is canon. Bungie approved the books as completely canon. The only reason chief’s weaker in the games is for balance issues in order to keep the game as awesome and challenging as it is.

    Haloid is non-canon. Montyoum, the awesome god that he is, made the movie not to represent that characters accurately, but to make an awesome (and funny) fight scene. He even made the match a draw so he wouldn’t have to deal with as much whining from fans. Of course, in the first place, that wasn’t even master chief in the vid, so….yeah. Bringing up Haloid is rather pointless, no?

    The shields on Samus’ suit are so strong MC’s can’t even compare.

    MC was altered into a superhuman, but Samus was altered with Chozo genes to survive on an alien planet.

    The weapons systems (built into the suit) for Samus are something Chief could only find in a scarab or Wraith…maybe.

    I’m assuming both their suits come with the pinkiller injectors, but Samus’ might even actively HEAL wounds….

    Samus’ jumping ability is around 3 times that of MC…

    Samus could survive a plasma stick. It might take down about half of one of her energy tanks..

  99. Jet Alone July 29, 2008 at 8:05 pm -      #199

    I think that Samus will marry MC before kill him :lol:

  100. guest July 29, 2008 at 9:26 pm -      #200

    How many planets has Samus destroyed so far? Last I checked, she’s up to 4.

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