King Kong Vs The Hulk Vs Optimus Prime Vs Rancor Vs Godzilla

King Kong Vs The Hulk Vs Optimus Prime Vs Rancor Vs Godzilla

Well let’s get the easy stuff out of the way first. Rancor would last about 3 steps before getting destroyed by any of the other combatants. It would then prolly go to Kong facing off against Godzilla, leaving the Hulk to pound on Optimus Prime. From there the Hulk would eventually mash Godzilla or toss him into a volcano…

How do you see this match playing out?

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861 Comments on "King Kong Vs The Hulk Vs Optimus Prime Vs Rancor Vs Godzilla"

  1. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 2:16 am -      #201

    Godzilla’s not FTL so there’s not much he could do. Superman could effectively ring him out and win.

  2. StealthRanger January 22, 2012 at 2:16 am -      #202

    WWH pwns

    And new page

  3. StealthRanger January 22, 2012 at 2:17 am -      #203

    Oh noes, i haz been beaten again

  4. Soulerous January 22, 2012 at 2:24 am -      #204

    Well, it looks like our winner is Godzilla, unless someone can bring an even greater feat of durability for the Hulk to bear. And I doubt it.
    =
    Godzilla for the BankGambling Award. He deserves it.

  5. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 2:25 am -      #205

    Hulk will never be able to get that powerful, Stealth, and it still won’t be strong enough to beat Godzilla. He’s able to unleash triple digit megaton attacks with his roar alone. He can unleash fire blasts that would crack the planet open. Any Godzilla, not just “the main one” can absorb radiation pretty much instantly. Junior sucked it up so fast that when Godzilla unleashed enough to destroy all life on the planet it was absorbed before it could reach anyone at all. Hulk doesn’t have the time or the cause to get that angry, wouldn’t be able to sustain it, can be matched physically with attacks that are able to be unleashed pretty much whenever Godzilla feels like it, and can’t hit harder than the things Godzilla has tanked, such as a Black Hole. At what point is WWH going to be able to get the job done? The instant he becomes it? Because that’s about how long he has before he’s drained and whooped or sent to ring out.

  6. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 2:43 am -      #206

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  7. StealthRanger January 22, 2012 at 2:45 am -      #207

    @Sauro
    I was just sayin’ as WWH he could win this, he DID beat up the Marvel superheroes, but whatever seeing as theres no incarnation specified, i’ll go along with the flow

    Godzilla for the win

    Btw, we have the first 2012 HoF Winner! :D

  8. Hermit January 22, 2012 at 2:51 am -      #208

    So it seems, Kratos has finally won his wife and daughter.

  9. StealthRanger January 22, 2012 at 2:52 am -      #209

    Yup, Kratos is now the first 2012 HoF Winner and he FINALLY got his award over Aang

  10. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 3:09 am -      #210

    Well, I can always lobby for Godzilla to have an award for one of his matches as the second award of the year.

  11. StealthRanger January 22, 2012 at 3:12 am -      #211

    @Sauro
    Megaman is next in line

  12. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 3:45 am -      #212

    How do you know?

  13. StealthRanger January 22, 2012 at 3:50 am -      #213

    Megaman X has 9 votes over Samus which now is the most nominated topic for an FP Award

    Im just going by number of nominations rly

  14. Chuck inglish January 22, 2012 at 10:55 am -      #214

    @Saurs
    see the thing about you, you’re an idiot you fail to realize you’ve lost already
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    “Godzilla tanks megaton level attacks with out tiring”
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    Yeah and hulk tanks a “Trilllion ton attack”
    +++
    .”He tanked a black hole,”
    Hulk pulled apart matter and anti matter and also dived into anti matter
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    ” One titanic blast of insane power to knock Hulk unconscious, ”
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    and what would that be? cause hulk has tanked Johnny storm’s nova at point blank range which was said by the omnipresent narrator to rival an exploding star.
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    “who puts out Super Nova+ heat fire (The Marvel version took out the Human Torch with a single blast of his fire) that can knock around six digits worth of tons even after extended periods of fighting.”
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    lulz last i checked it was a blast of radation not heat hence why its called the atomic ray
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    my response for you posting godzilla fighting other bullshit monsters i’ll just post godzilla fighting WARRRIOR’S MADNESS thor
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  15. Chuck inglish January 22, 2012 at 11:11 am -      #215

    “omniscience narrator”
    fix’d

  16. Chuck inglish January 22, 2012 at 11:15 am -      #216

    “http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/1753036-4_2_2011_11_13_27_am.jpg”
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    whats that supposed to mean? Hulk whips the avengers ass on a daily basis

  17. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 2:11 pm -      #217

    “Yeah and hulk tanks a “Trilllion ton attack””

    It’s like you forget that he has to scale up to these levels. Trillion-Ton is also not an explosive scale. You’ll have to be more specific. Do you mean he held up a trillion tons? Because that’s not the same thing as tanking a trillion tons of TNT right to the face and only closing your eyes to shield them from the light of the blast.

    “Hulk pulled apart matter and anti matter and also dived into anti matter”

    Is no where near a black hole by any stretch of the imagination. Learn science. Matter and Anti-Matter also can’t be ‘together’. When they touch they destroy each other.

    “and what would that be? cause hulk has tanked Johnny storm’s nova at point blank range which was said by the omnipresent narrator to rival an exploding star.”

    The weakest Godzilla’s fire breath one-shotted ol’ Johnny you know.

    “lulz last i checked it was a blast of radation not heat hence why its called the atomic ray”

    It’s “radioactive fire”. You can’t blow up things with just radiation alone to my knowledge.

    “whats that supposed to mean? Hulk whips the avengers ass on a daily basis”

    Hulk does not whoop them on a daily basis. They weren’t even close to matching Godzilla and that’s the pansy ass weakling Marvel version. Final Wars Godzilla is infinitely stronger. You see you’re arguing for the sake of just wanting to Troll me because I don’t hate Capcom characters because the company didn’t completely alter a favorite character of mine. Your actual arguments don’t hold any water, and you’re either are ignoring or are not educated on the forces Godzilla has dealt with and can unleash.

    “my response for you posting godzilla fighting other bullshit monsters i’ll just post godzilla fighting WARRRIOR’S MADNESS thor”

    That’s not Godzilla, and Thor couldn’t even get CLOSE to Godzilla after he nailed him full force with the Mjollnir right in the face due to the kind of power Godzilla was unleashing after he got pissed off. The fact that the panels you show have Thor evenly matched with his foe is proof alone that Hulk loses. Thor is unable to defeat Godzilla. He was compared as being more than Jormungandr when Thor encountered him. I repeat, the WEAKEST possible version of Godzilla is so powerful that Thor is unable to compete in even the slightest manner against him. He can hurt Godzilla but not injure him, and after that he can’t even land any blows on Godzilla. Sure he could use his lightning on him, but Godzilla adapts pretty quickly to electricity and is able to use it to control magnetism and/or shoot it back at his enemy. Hulk isn’t fast enough, strong enough, or durable enough to stop Godzilla from OHKOing him before he can approach strength levels to compete with the King of the Monsters. Godzilla is capable of absorbing ALL of Hulk’s radiation and turning him back in to Banner literally at the start of the match. There’s absolutely no way Hulk can compete.

    The End.

  18. Chuck inglish January 22, 2012 at 3:40 pm -      #218

    “It’s like you forget that he has to scale up to these levels. Trillion-Ton is also not an explosive scale. You’ll have to be more specific. Do you mean he held up a trillion tons? Because that’s not the same thing as tanking a trillion tons of TNT right to the face and only closing your eyes to shield them from the light of the blast.”

    media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/47254/1656701-1499393_skaar3_super_super.jpg and hulk has also tanked an explosion that wiped out millions basically the whole planet except Hulk

    “It’s “radioactive fire”. You can’t blow up things with just radiation alone to my knowledge.”
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    no it’s a concentrated radiation blast
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    “The weakest Godzilla’s fire breath one-shotted ol’ Johnny you know.”
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    non canon idiot and it wasn’t fire.
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    hulk rips Godzilla apart piece by piece

  19. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 4:16 pm -      #219

    “hulk has also tanked an explosion that wiped out millions basically the whole planet except Hulk”

    I think you linked to the wrong panel. It does not reflect your statement in even the slightest manner. It’s just Hulk getting knocked at a small mountainous geological structure. Megaton-level attacks leave kilometer+ sized craters.

    “no it’s a concentrated radiation blast”

    it’s radioactive fire. The very first use of his fire breath was just fire with nuclear fall out. It has since become more intense over time. It sets things on fire, melts and explodes targets, there is a heat component to it. Your not having watched Godzilla movies does not magically remove this fact.

    “non canon idiot and it wasn’t fire.”

    Godzilla is canon. They had him mutated and he played a minor role, only being actually named once in Marvel after their license ran out. How they got away with it is beyond me. His Marvel version still has a heat component to his attack as it sets things on fire. He was able to STOP Johnny with it. Marvel Godzilla is easily Thor’s equal, physically, and has energy projection that Thor can’t get through despite his might. Hulk being able to go toe to toe with Thor isn’t proof that Hulk can beat a guy who the Avengers, Fantastic Four, and a Shield Helicarrier all at the same time lost to.

    “hulk rips Godzilla apart piece by piece”

    Hulk’s base lifting strength is only 100 tons. Godzilla was able to out maneuver the attacks of the Champions of LA. He’s defeated Super Sonic Daikaiju before. Effortlessly knocked around 100,000+ tons even after prolonged combat. He’s tanked black holes and absolute zero. You offer no real arguments to stop Godzilla.

  20. Chuck inglish January 22, 2012 at 4:33 pm -      #220

    “I think you linked to the wrong panel. It does not reflect your statement in even the slightest manner. It’s just Hulk getting knocked at a small mountainous geological structure. Megaton-level attacks leave kilometer+ sized craters”
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    media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/47254/1656701-1499393_skaar3_super_super.jpg and like i said in my last post Hulk has survived an explosion that wiped out everybeing on the planet
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    “Godzilla is canon.”
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    marvel godzilla is not canon and theronly reason his breath affected johnny was because it was radioactive not because it’s hotter than a supernova
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    “Hulk’s base lifting strength is only 100 tons”
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    hulk’s lifting strength is infinite dude. Hell hulks’s been seen supporting billions of tons and holding tectonic plates together godzilla has done nothing that compares to that

  21. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 4:35 pm -      #221

    Also, just to nail the coffin shut on the “is Marvel Godzilla canon” issue you’ve brought up, I only need to bring up one thing. Red Ronin. I win.

  22. Chuck inglish January 22, 2012 at 4:37 pm -      #222

    call me when godzilla has the strength to hold a planet together

  23. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 4:38 pm -      #223

    “and like i said in my last post Hulk has survived an explosion that wiped out everybeing on the planet”

    Godzilla tanks attacks that cause earth quakes. Just fighting Battra caused a quake.

    “marvel godzilla is not canon and theronly reason his breath affected johnny was because it was radioactive not because it’s hotter than a supernova”

    Red Ronin. Yes, it’s explicitly shown to be too hot for the human torch.

    “hulk’s lifting strength is infinite dude. Hell hulks’s been seen supporting billions of tons and holding tectonic plates together godzilla has done nothing that compares to that”

    Hulk’s power is proportional to his anger. If you can provide an argument for how he could reach levels strong enough to compete with Godzilla you’d have ground to stand on. As it is all you’re presenting is an asset which Hulk doesn’t appear to have available at the moment.

  24. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 4:39 pm -      #224

    “call me when godzilla has the strength to hold a planet together”

    Godzilla is shown to have infinite power. The entire ending to Final Wars revolves around this.

  25. Chuck inglish January 22, 2012 at 4:47 pm -      #225

    “Godzilla tanks attacks that cause earth quakes. Just fighting Battra caused a quake.”
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    still nothing compared to a palnet wiping attack
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    “Red Ronin. Yes, it’s explicitly shown to be too hot for the human torch.”
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    non canon comic godzilla is not movie godzilla. try again
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    “Hulk’s power is proportional to his anger.”
    yes and at the start of the match hulk is already angry
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    “Godzilla is shown to have infinite power. The entire ending to Final Wars revolves around this.”

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    noy strong enough to hold a planet together though

  26. NEGATIVE-ZERO January 22, 2012 at 4:58 pm -      #226

    This joke match is ACTUALLY being debated?

  27. StealthRanger January 22, 2012 at 4:59 pm -      #227

    Joke match?

  28. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 5:00 pm -      #228

    “still nothing compared to a palnet wiping attack”

    Godzilla’s spiral ray would be a mass extinction event if he fired it at the ground. He fired it in to space for a reason. It’d be really stupid of him to crack the earth open when the entire point of his rampage is he got pissed at humanity for using nukes.

    “non canon comic godzilla is not movie godzilla. try again”

    The idea is that Marvel Godzilla is weaker than Final Wars Godzilla by an ENORMOUS factor. The poor Marvel version repeatedly goes down to fairly mediocre tactics, and needs help from time to time (unless he’s fighting much weaker opponents like the Avengers). If Final Wars Godzilla could utterly stomp Marvel Godzilla, then what hope does Hulk have?

    “yes and at the start of the match hulk is already angry”

    He has to be angry to begin with to become hulk, but he doesn’t automatically get to be so powerful that he could give stars black eyes.

    “noy strong enough to hold a planet together though”

    Are you retarded? No, seriously. How can you say infinite power is not strong enough to hold a planet together? He’s given infinite power and then effortlessly curb stomped a monster he had absolutely no hope against previously and unleashed a blast bigger than the country you’re currently living in with a shock wave larger than the planet.

  29. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 5:01 pm -      #229

    “This joke match is ACTUALLY being debated?”

    Chuck is under the impression Hulk gets to begin with infinite strength and durability and that Godzilla was never granted such in his last movie.

  30. NEGATIVE-ZERO January 22, 2012 at 5:07 pm -      #230

    C’mon, this could ONLY be a joke match.

  31. Chuck inglish January 22, 2012 at 5:12 pm -      #231

    “Godzilla’s spiral ray would be a mass extinction event if he fired it at the ground. He fired it in to space for a reason. It’d be really stupid of him to crack the earth open when the entire point of his rampage is he got pissed at humanity for using nukes”
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    Yet another assumption
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    “The idea is that Marvel Godzilla is weaker than Final Wars Godzilla by an ENORMOUS factor. The poor Marvel version repeatedly goes down to fairly mediocre tactics, and needs help from time to time (unless he’s fighting much weaker opponents like the Avengers). If Final Wars Godzilla could utterly stomp Marvel Godzilla, then what hope does Hulk have?”
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    yet another bullshit assumption
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    “He has to be angry to begin with to become hulk, but he doesn’t automatically get to be so powerful that he could give stars black eyes.”
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    the reason he becomes hulk is becvuase he’s pissed off dummy
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    ” He’s given infinite power and then effortlessly curb stomped a monster he had absolutely no hope against previously and unleashed a blast bigger than the country you’re currently living in with a shock wave larger than the planet.”
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    and hulk has survived planary sized explosions an your point is?
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    See you only make up bullshit assumptions. you have no feats just assumptions
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    now let this soak in
    Hulk throwing Fing Fang Foom to the moon
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  32. Chuck inglish January 22, 2012 at 5:25 pm -      #232

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    the scan of hulk tanking a planetary explosion that cracked the tectonic plates

  33. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 5:36 pm -      #233

    “Yet another assumption”

    No, I’m actually in to paleontology. I have a rough grasp of the kind of events that can cause mass extinctions.

    “yet another bullshit assumption”

    Marvel Godzilla never displays the same feats as Final Wars Godzilla does. He’s based on the Showa Godzilla which is smaller, slower, weaker, and less durable than future incarnations. This is reflected with things like Marvel Godzilla needing to breath air.

    “the reason he becomes hulk is becvuase he’s pissed off dummy”

    How’s he going to get pissed off that much? Because he gets insta-whooped? A little too late for that then.

    “and hulk has survived planary sized explosions an your point is?”

    Quit moving your damn goal posts you little troll. I provide a counter to one of your arguments and instead of conceding you bring up something COMPLETELY unrelated. It doesn’t matter that Hulk survives planet busters, it matters that his strength at WBH levels is still only just equal to how Godzilla STARTS in this match up. Godzilla OHKO’s or ring outs Hulk. He doesn’t need to kill him to win this match.

    “See you only make up bullshit assumptions. you have no feats just assumptions”

    Yup, bringing up scenes from the movies is just assumptions. Nothing more. Nothing less. You’re right. I’m so sorry. I had no idea that using comparable feats from movies to show you why Hulk can’t surpass Godzilla in this match before he loses was an invalid form of argument. I can’t help it that you refuse to watch the movies, and honestly I won’t hold it against you if man-in-suit monster movies aren’t your thing.. but to pretend like I’m just making crap up because you haven’t watched the movie is both insulting and ignorant of you. We are shown in no uncertain terms that Godzilla’s power is literally infinite. Not through feats or speech but because it’s actually made clear he has infinite power. There’s a whole scene revolving around him being given this power. In this scene he effortlessly knocks a 100,000 ton monster beyond Earth orbit. This is from the same blast that I stated is a mass extinction event attack. Now, we know Godzilla has performed a more impressive feat than what you just showed, and we also know Godzilla is Foom’s superior to begin with in size, weight, and power.

  34. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 5:39 pm -      #234

    “the scan of hulk tanking a planetary explosion that cracked the tectonic plates”

    Hulk is pretty clearly not in the explosion. The feat where they shoot him at the asteroid would be a better one anyways.

  35. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 5:45 pm -      #235

    Also, I can safely say that the world you’re showing is rather brittle for a planet. Or the crust is very thin. We shouldn’t be seeing magma. The Earth has taken destructive forces that make that explosion look like somebody set off a firecracker and its tectonic plates did not snap. It’s hard to crack a plate. They aren’t massive completely solid objects to begin with. They have fault lines running through them that are not due to them connecting with another tectonic plate. You can’t just crack one in two. I wouldn’t expect a comic book writer to be well versed in this subject matter unless it was really interesting to him though.

  36. Chuck inglish January 22, 2012 at 5:46 pm -      #236

    you’ve have yet to show me godzilla tanking a planet wrecking attack until than every buullshit assumption that comes out your mouth is not valid

  37. Chuck inglish January 22, 2012 at 5:49 pm -      #237

    www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=12704284 hulk tanking blast from the big G himself

  38. ptaine January 22, 2012 at 5:51 pm -      #238

    *sigh* Dante solos……

  39. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 5:52 pm -      #239

    I don’t have to. He is the embodiment of infinite energy. No one has to throw a planet wrecking attack at him. We know from that information alone he could take it. We also know he can regenerate from -anything-. He’s been hit with a weapon that appears to de-atomize the target called the Oxygen Destroyer. Has a really nasty effect which clearly works on the atomic level and seems to liquidate everything in range. He’s been hit with a localized black hole as well. Remember, there’s nothing more powerful than a black hole. These things were strong enough to punch holes in the fabric of space-time. When you fall in to the event horizon of a black hole, you are effectively subjected to infinite pressure (and infinite heat because of that) which being ripped and stretched atom by atom infinitely as you are gradually drawn in past the event horizon. This is the awesome power of a Black Hole. Godzilla cells have survived one in space, and Godzilla has taken a localized one on Earth. Hulk literally can not be stronger than a Black Hole, although he can hope to match one. Now then, I think I’ll go over how weak that explosion that cracked a tectonic plate is. =)

  40. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 5:54 pm -      #240

    Galactus isn’t really trying or is starving. He’s been demonstrated to be so powerful that if he loses to Earth’s heroes it’s due to CIS or PIS at this point.

  41. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 6:01 pm -      #241

    “http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkdurability.jpg”

    Let’s look over this image now.

    Panel 1

    We see a twin ringed mushroom cloud reaching high enough to reach the lowest level clouds. It’s powerful enough to begin causing them to drift away but it didn’t instantaneously destroy them. The most powerful bomb the USA has tested is Castle Bravo to my instance. In that film we see it literally destroy clouds instantly. There should be no clouds in this image. Castle Bravo was rated at 15 megatons, and a crater at 1,500 meters in diameter. This means the explosion that tore apart this planet’s tectonic plates was less than 15 megatons in strength. The meteor impact which wiped out the dinosaurs is estimated at 96 teratons. The crater left is 122 miles ( 180 kilometers) wide. This did not end the planet Earth. Would you like me to go on to the other panels? I could do a fine comparison of the effects of the shuttle to the effects of the K-T extinction event if you like. It wouldn’t be difficult to shoot down this little event.

  42. Chuck inglish January 22, 2012 at 6:12 pm -      #242

    doesn’t matter bro it still wiped out the whole population on the planet
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    “I don’t have to. He is the embodiment of infinite energy. No one has to throw a planet wrecking attack at him. We know from that information alone he could take it.”
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    another bullshit assumption.
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    im finshed with this thread for today call me when godzilla’s footsteps breaks tectonic plates

  43. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 6:20 pm -      #243

    “doesn’t matter bro it still wiped out the whole population on the planet”

    Yes. It actually does matter. It alters the actual power of the explosion by a massive order. My example of it having to be less than 15 megatons compared to the K-T Impact which was near triple digit Teratons which caused the smallest mass extinction in the history of our planet means the explosion is not as powerful as ones we’ve actually seen Godzilla tank.

    “another bullshit assumption.”

    No. Infinity means infinity means infinity. You can’t say the movie made an assumption.

    “im finshed with this thread for today call me when godzilla’s footsteps breaks tectonic plates”

    Yeah, Godzilla’s gonna massive destruction to the planet he is the protector of. Makes lots of sense. Because he doesn’t lack control (indeed, he demonstrates extreme control of his breath weapon’s output.) doesn’t mean he lacks ability. I’m sorry that you can’t come up with something stronger than a black hole and only have the defense of “A comically pathetic and brittle planet’s death didn’t kill him” and “When Hulk gets angry enough (and he will! But I will never come up with a reason as to why!) he’ll be able to ring out Godzilla” but you’re just debating in circles. I provide a counter argument and all you can do is ignore it or say it doesn’t count.

  44. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 6:51 pm -      #244

    Well, now that Chuck is down for the count.. for today at least..

    +1 Godzilla BankGambling Award.

    That makes 2 now. Any other backers? Or contenders?

  45. Chuck inglish January 22, 2012 at 7:08 pm -      #245

    “Yes. It actually does matter. It alters the actual power of the explosion by a massive order. My example of it having to be less than 15 megatons compared to the K-T Impact which was near triple digit Teratons which caused the smallest mass extinction in the history of our planet means the explosion is not as powerful as ones we’ve actually seen Godzilla tank.”
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    doesn’t matter bro that blast still was able to planet bust which godzilla was never shown to do and by the way here’s hulk tanking johnny’s nova flame and storms lightning at full force and surfer’s blast superherouniverse.com/wiki/images/2/2a/Withstanding_Silver_Surfer%27s_blasts.jpg and he also he withstands the blast effect of a “warp core breach”, which generated enough force to destabilize the planet Sakaar near the point of collapse, and following this, Black Bolt’s voice, which generated enough power to knock off a piece of the moon the size of Rhode Island.

    hulk wins this you are just too stubborn to notice

  46. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 7:17 pm -      #246

    I don’t think you understand. “Planet Busting” is not a set yield. When people say it they think of Earth. Whatever planet that was, it was clearly not Earth, and geologically unstable. It required a blast the likes of which we have long since surpassed here on Earth and tested. Therefor, the fact that it wiped all life is not as important as the actual energy in the blast. Why can you not understand this? Godzilla has shown attacks of superior strength to that and tanked superior attacks than that. He could both destroy that planet and tank it’s destruction with no problem.

    “by the way here’s hulk tanking johnny’s nova flame and storms lightning at full force and surfer’s blast”

    Godzilla’s tanked Thor smacking him as hard as he can in the face with Mjollnir, Black Holes, and temperatures hotter than the sun. I don’t know what you’re trying to get across. You also have not provided any context for this battle. How angry was hulk? How long had he been fighting? Things like this and more are important.

    “and he also he withstands the blast effect of a “warp core breach”, which generated enough force to destabilize the planet Sakaar near the point of collapse,”

    If you can’t quantify it then these feats mean nothing.

    “nd following this, Black Bolt’s voice, which generated enough power to knock off a piece of the moon the size of Rhode Island. hulk wins this you are just too stubborn to notice”

    How is this durability feat superior to him being shot at the asteroid? How does this prove anything? He still gets OHKO’d or suffers ring out from a single attack before he can get to be very powerful.

  47. Blood Knight January 22, 2012 at 7:24 pm -      #247

    If Kong is from his 2005 movie well he’s screwed up, the Rancor might be killed by the other three fighters Optimus will be torn to pieces by the Hulk leaving him to by pwned by Godzilla.

  48. Chuck inglish January 22, 2012 at 7:43 pm -      #248

    ” He could both destroy that planet and tank it’s destruction with no problem.”
    ==
    no proof just assumptions
    ==
    “Godzilla’s tanked Thor smacking him as hard as he can in the face with Mjollnir, Black Holes, and temperatures hotter than the sun. I don’t know what you’re trying to get across. You also have not provided any context for this battle. How angry was hulk? How long had he been fighting? Things like this and more are important.”
    ====
    not using comic Godzilla and Thor has tanked blows from Mjollner plenty of times and when has Godzilla tanked temperatures hotter than the sun. Non canon and comic appearances don’t count

    ===
    “How is this durability feat superior to him being shot at the asteroid”
    ====
    to even damage the moon it requires trillions in amount of megaton nukes to ecen phase the moon
    ===
    anyway hulk either tosses Godzilla out in space or tips him apart

  49. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 9:28 pm -      #249

    “no proof just assumptions”

    Are you insane? I’ve already told you about his feats. This isn’t assumptions. I’ve already figured out that the blast that punched through that planet’s plates has to be less than 15 megatons. We know for a fact Godzilla has taken more than that. Because I can extrapolate with evidence doesn’t mean I’m making assumption. You either fail to grasp the argument or are spouting that because you have no response.

    “not using comic Godzilla and Thor has tanked blows from Mjollner plenty of times and when has Godzilla tanked temperatures hotter than the sun. Non canon and comic appearances don’t count ”

    Again, Marvel Godzilla is muuuuuch weaker than Final Wars Godzilla. Comic feats are usable for extreme low end examples of Godzilla’s abilities. You don’t get to pick what doesn’t count, you don’t even know a damn thing about Godzilla or how to debate with or against him. If you understood Godzilla it’d be different but you don’t and you show it clearly. You’ve made it pretty obvious that you don’t watch his movies or know what he’s accomplished.

    “when has Godzilla tanked temperatures hotter than the sun. ”

    Godzilla’s fire is already too hot for Torch, and if you don’t believe me you’ll have to read the comics. He’s tanked his own attack in GvsBiollante sent back at him 1000 times more powerful. He took these hits repeatedly. Each one powerful enough to shake the earth and the sea. It didn’t even knock him over. Godzilla also tanks lightning (and other plasma attacks) with ease, and lightning is hotter than the sun.

    “to even damage the moon it requires trillions in amount of megaton nukes to ecen phase the moon”

    You… You don’t know what I’m talking about, do you? You’re debating in favor of Hulk but clearly only know what you can scrape up in other Hulk threads that you can find on the internet. You’re using a lot of the same, tired old arguments that haven’t won Hulk any fights against Godzilla before or a number of other power houses. The moon feat pales in comparison to the asteroid feat by a vast margin.

    “anyway hulk either tosses Godzilla out in space or tips him apart”

    Hulk doesn’t start off strong enough to actually lift Godzilla or for his attacks to register on Godzilla. Stop arguing like he can become WBH at whim. He can’t. He might become angry over time, but Godzilla’s ability to instantly drain him means the best Hulk is going to do is make him more powerful. He will never be given provocation to match Godzilla outside of fighting Godzilla for an extended period of time, but he can’t do that until he’s made angry enough to begin to match him, which he won’t ever have the chance to do. This is Hulk’s greatest weakness and why he loses this fight. Godzilla starts off strong enough to OHKO or ring out Hulk. Hulk does not.

  50. darthgrim January 24, 2012 at 11:29 am -      #250

    Chuck the flaw in your argument is this, Hulk needs to power up, end of story. even if it only takes him ten minutes Godzilla had already Wtfpwned him.

  51. Sauroposeidon January 24, 2012 at 11:38 am -      #251

    His response is “Hulk will get angry enough” if you haven’t noticed. He’s not using logic, he knows it, and he doesn’t care. It doesn’t matter if Final Wars shows Godzilla receiving infinite energy, or if GxM showed Godzilla tanking a black hole, or if GvsSG had G-Cells survive a black hole, or if GvsD had a Godzilla absorbing a world destroying nuclear event to save the planet. These are what we might call observations but he calls “assumptions.”

  52. darthgrim January 24, 2012 at 6:34 pm -      #252

    So he’s just trolling then.

  53. Sauroposeidon January 24, 2012 at 6:42 pm -      #253

    Yes. He doesn’t like me.

  54. Hermit January 24, 2012 at 6:59 pm -      #254

    Here’s a question, will Godzilla pull out his most powerful attacks immediately?
    If that’s the case, Hulk is reduced to a hulking pile of ashes.

    But if Godzilla pulls his punches because he wants to test his opponent first, it might give Hulk time to get angry…and for Optimus Prime to prepare his heroic speech.

  55. Sauroposeidon January 24, 2012 at 8:37 pm -      #255

    “Here’s a question, will Godzilla pull out his most powerful attacks immediately?
    If that’s the case, Hulk is reduced to a hulking pile of ashes.”

    Hmm.. Does he hold back..

    This is Godzilla’s first fight as soon as he’s freed.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeqIIFKBYc8

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOhqQBZ21Zs

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=cACc2XJkCYI

    Godzilla holds back in the sense that he won’t use more force than he believes he needs. However, he doesn’t see any point in permitting anyone he views as the enemy to live longer than it takes for him to kill them. He kills all four of those enemies in around a minute. He might nonchalantly blast Hulk once.. only to see him get much more powerful from it. Then he will probably let lose with something insanely destructive.

  56. darthgrim January 25, 2012 at 4:54 am -      #256

    Found a feat for Devastator from G1, not sure how applicable this is for Prime
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIJGL4Pvp0E&feature=player_embedded

    3:51

    The outer core is 2,890 – 5,150 kilometers from the surface, Devastator traveled from just under the surface to the outer core in 10 seconds. That means he traveled 289 – 515 kilometers a second.

    That puts his speed at mach 849.2 – 1513.4

  57. Sauroposeidon January 25, 2012 at 11:35 am -      #257

    It’s not. To begin with the constructicons specialize in earth-moving and building. They can do things like put together entire bases in around an hour or so. They’re VERY good at what they do. Devestator, even being the ‘weakest’ gestalt, is on the same level as a city guardian like Omega Supreme. To give you an idea of how powerful Devestator is, he’s able to match the Dinobots. The Dinobots. Let me repeat. The Dinobots. The guys who can solo the entire Decepticon army. Any one of them is stronger than any other standard transformer in one on one with the exception of maybe Six Shot. Devestator is a beast with few weak points and powerful abilities.

  58. Doppelganger February 8, 2012 at 1:02 am -      #258

    There’s a lot of people here throwing around the word energy.

    I suspect a lot of those people don’t even know what it means.

  59. Sauroposeidon February 14, 2012 at 7:12 pm -      #259

    Suspecting as opposed to knowing would imply you don’t know what it means, so why would you suspect at all if you don’t have a grasp of the word?

  60. mrgendrons 2.0 February 14, 2012 at 8:32 pm -      #260

    the last two standing will ovbviously be godzilla and hulk kingkongs a measily 25 ft tall and optimums primes not really a factor here…..

  61. DReager1 April 14, 2012 at 8:52 pm -      #261

    I have to say that Hulk wins :D

  62. The Destroyer14 April 14, 2012 at 9:06 pm -      #262

    King Kong and Rancor dies instantly. Now, Optimus Prime will last, but in the end, it will be Hulk vs. Godzilla. I’m not saying Hulk isn’t tough, but him and G aren’t too different. Let’s look at it this way. G took down Gigan, Zilla, Kamacuras, Kumonga, Anguirus, Rodan, King Caesar, Hedorah. Ebirah, and then Monster X. Never mind the fact that he survived a black hole and a direct hit from a meteorite without flinching. G has this.

  63. DReager1 April 14, 2012 at 9:09 pm -      #263

    I dunno. Gamma Ray Bursts solo. Also Hulk has a lot of raw power and speed :D

  64. Sauroposeidon April 14, 2012 at 9:20 pm -      #264

    DReager, no, just.. no.

  65. DReager1 April 14, 2012 at 9:21 pm -      #265

    After hearing more about him on the other threads I think he wins :D

  66. AverageJ April 14, 2012 at 9:28 pm -      #266

    hulk can only create a gamma ray burst when he is angry enough or WB mode.

  67. DReager1 April 14, 2012 at 9:30 pm -      #267

    He’ll be mad when people say Godzilla’s the strongest there is :cool:

  68. AverageJ April 14, 2012 at 9:32 pm -      #268

    But i still say hulk wins this is because there is nothing godzilla can do to beat him. Godzilla weighs just under 100k tons hulk has proven to lift much more, godzillas atomic ray will have only major effects at first but as hulk gets angrier the less effect they will have since hulk has survived worse (galactus’ beams, vectors anti mater beam….) stepping on hulk really is not an option, godzilla is simply not fast enough and even if he did hulk would catch his foot and throw him to the nearest mountain.

  69. DReager1 April 14, 2012 at 9:33 pm -      #269

    See, Hulk still has a shot. With me here to help we’ll get him an FP award :D

  70. AverageJ April 14, 2012 at 9:35 pm -      #270

    Nothing is stopping hulk jumping on its head ripping its eye ball out and dig his way to godzilla’s brain and destroy him from the inside out.

  71. DReager1 April 14, 2012 at 9:35 pm -      #271

    Yeah :) Or just one big thunder clap in his ear

  72. AverageJ April 14, 2012 at 9:35 pm -      #272

    For the first time ever we are on the same side, im slightly amused by this.

  73. DReager1 April 14, 2012 at 9:36 pm -      #273

    Things should be interesting :cool: Though we agree on the Goku bfring Hulk

  74. AverageJ April 14, 2012 at 9:38 pm -      #274

    “Yeah Or just one big thunder clap in his ear”

    That won’t work he has had anguirus shouting in his ear, give G a little more credit he is a tough bastard, this will be hard for hulk but he will come out on top.

  75. AverageJ April 14, 2012 at 9:39 pm -      #275

    “Things should be interesting Though we agree on the Goku bfring Hulk”

    I agree that goku can beat base hulk but not World Breaker hulk.

  76. DReager1 April 14, 2012 at 9:45 pm -      #276

    “That won’t work he has had anguirus shouting in his ear, give G a little more credit he is a tough bastard, this will be hard for hulk but he will come out on top.”

    Good point. Thunder Clap and stomp :cool:

    “I agree that goku can beat base hulk but not World Breaker hulk.”

    Yeah, but that was extra. The debate was regular vs Goku :D

  77. Sauroposeidon April 15, 2012 at 10:32 am -      #277

    My stupid alarm was going off loud enough to wake me up, so here I am folks…let’s see here.

    “After hearing more about him on the other threads I think he wins ”

    I’m not responding to your ramblings, you know this.

    “But i still say hulk wins this is because there is nothing godzilla can do to beat him. Godzilla weighs just under 100k tons hulk has proven to lift much more, godzillas atomic ray will have only major effects at first but as hulk gets angrier the less effect they will have since hulk has survived worse (galactus’ beams, vectors anti mater beam….) stepping on hulk really is not an option, godzilla is simply not fast enough and even if he did hulk would catch his foot and throw him to the nearest mountain.”

    Hercules can lift Godzilla up too. Didn’t stop him from getting humiliated.

    Godzilla’s atomic ray would be a detriment and an unlikely weapon. Only the heisei version blams every single possible target with its beam.

    Your cited worse attacks are not even a fraction of what Godzilla unleashes.

    Godzilla is easily as agile as a human. He’s been able to counter Thor in the past. Godzilla also fights supersonic enemies on a regular basis. You’re either not someone who watches Godzilla movies or are a Hulk fanboy.

    “Nothing is stopping hulk jumping on its head ripping its eye ball out and dig his way to godzilla’s brain and destroy him from the inside out.”

    Assuming Godzilla doesn’t nuclear pulse or just grab him and throw him off, that wouldn’t even kill him.

    “I agree that goku can beat base hulk but not World Breaker hulk.”

    World Breaker Hulk is not particularly top tier. Even Godzilla is a world destroyer if all of his energy is released at once. This was a focus point in one of his movies where if he died then all of his energy would be released and the world would end. This was a past, weaker version than the one we have now. Goku would beat WBH, and Hulk doesn’t even have a chance of getting to be strong enough to hurl or hurt Godzilla. The best he could do is brace and endure, and that is, again, the best he could do. Even if Godzilla hit Hulk with a beam it’d be enough to BFR him. Godzilla is now throwing enemies out of Earth’s atmosphere with his beam, and effortlessly pushes around 200,000+ plus with his atomic ray. Before his power up he was threw Kumonga OVER the visible horizon. OVER IT. Hulk will punch Godzilla, piss him off just like Thor did, and then get hit so hard he won’t be seen again. If he’s stupid enough to use a gamma attack then he’ll have an even more powerful enemy on his hands, while any of Godzilla’s radiation attacks would BFR Hulk with out issue as long as it’s not directed down at a ground based hulk. Hulk’s base lifting power is only 100 tons. How do you expect him to reach the power he needs to even hope to compare to the king of the monsters before he gets defeated?

  78. Sauroposeidon April 15, 2012 at 10:50 am -      #278

    www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=rQxK4ffn2G0

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyvLdERXNH0

    The second video, yeah, he just did what it took a huge battle between WBH and Iron Man to do, and he did it with his base atomic beam.

    Kumonga weighs 30,000 tons
    Hedorah weighs 70,000 tons
    Ebirah weighs 50,000 tons
    A building of that size weighs around 70-80,000 tons, if I recall. And then there was the sky scraper he took out with all three, which I think weigh in at around 200,000 tons. I think. Could be wrong.

    Monster X is roughly equal to Godzilla is power, so following typical impact physics, we need to assume that the explosion in this next video is equal to the power output of only one of their beam attacks, as opposed to the two combined. The rest is “consumed” in their impact with each other.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oPk_X7qZoQ

    Godzilla’s beam attack, after constant fighting and before the infinite energy upgrade is equal to WBH holding back a bit.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7erLu1YfJg

    And it’s not like Godzilla doesn’t have the range to just BFR Hulk, as you can see. The king’s gonna keep his crown, I’m afraid. Hulk never even began to stand a chance.

  79. AverageJ April 15, 2012 at 10:56 am -      #279

    “Hercules can lift Godzilla up too. Didn’t stop him from getting humiliated.”

    Funny because hulk also humiliated Hercules while his father was watching with little effort.

    “Godzilla is easily as agile as a human. He’s been able to counter Thor in the past. Godzilla also fights supersonic enemies on a regular basis. You’re either not someone who watches Godzilla movies or are a Hulk fanboy.”

    I have watched many godzilla movies and the godzilla in marvel is not cannon so stop using it. As agile as a human is not good enough Hulk has much better agility than human. Just because i am debating my points does not make me a fanboy based on how your judging it your as much as a godzilla fanboy as i am hulk.

    “Assuming Godzilla doesn’t nuclear pulse or just grab him and throw him off, that wouldn’t even kill him.”

    nuclear pulse will push him back but will do little damage since hulk has survived them in the past. Hulk is certainly fast enough to get straight in there, while godzilla is distracted by other opponents, hulk leaps in and destroys him from the inside. To say that “wont kill him” makes you sound like a fanboy if you have no proof to back it up.

  80. Sauroposeidon April 15, 2012 at 11:02 am -      #280

    “Funny because hulk also humiliated Hercules while his father was watching with little effort.”

    Godzilla actually humiliated the entire Champions of LA at once. While I never read any other comic that involved them, I could see they probably wouldn’t last long.

    “I have watched many godzilla movies and the godzilla in marvel is not cannon so stop using it. As agile as a human is not good enough Hulk has much better agility than human. Just because i am debating my points does not make me a fanboy based on how your judging it your as much as a godzilla fanboy as i am hulk.”

    Virtually no Godzillas are canon with each other. Shush child. You don’t even attend to the fact that Godzilla has multiple high speed opponents in his past. Nor to the fact that the Avengers lost to a weaker form than the current one in play.

    “nuclear pulse will push him back but will do little damage since hulk has survived them in the past. Hulk is certainly fast enough to get straight in there, while godzilla is distracted by other opponents, hulk leaps in and destroys him from the inside. To say that “wont kill him” makes you sound like a fanboy if you have no proof to back it up.”

    Hulk will, probably, get off a single attack before Godzilla gets real pissed. Just like the fight with Thor. And you obviously don’t watch the movies. It’s a well known fact that Godzilla is pretty much impossible to kill at this point. He’s survived being completely disintegrated and having been hit with a localized black hole. There’s a reason I like Godzilla more than Kong, more than Ultraman, and even more than Gamera. He’s proven he deserves the title King of the Monsters time and time again.

  81. Hermit April 15, 2012 at 11:10 am -      #281

    Prime is smart enough to sit this one out.

    He will be the first one to lose via voluntary Battlefield Removal.

  82. AverageJ April 15, 2012 at 11:10 am -      #282

    “Hulk will, probably, get off a single attack before Godzilla gets real pissed. Just like the fight with Thor. And you obviously don’t watch the movies. It’s a well known fact that Godzilla is pretty much impossible to kill at this point. He’s survived being completely disintegrated and having been hit with a localized black hole. There’s a reason I like Godzilla more than Kong, more than Ultraman, and even more than Gamera. He’s proven he deserves the title King of the Monsters time and time again.”

    Irrelevant, that single attack will kill him. What is he going to do to get hulk out of his brain, Nothing. Stop fanwanking godzilla. the fact that he never dies in the movies is because he is the main character he is what people pay to go and see. The old godzilla was killed by the oxygen destroyer but they couldn’t completely cut off there main character and so a new godzilla was born. Godzilla used in marvel is not Cannon. Godzilla used in final wars is. Tell me one thing if hulks brain attack fails what is godzilla going to do to defeat him?

  83. Sauroposeidon April 15, 2012 at 11:12 am -      #283

    If negotiation were a possible allowed way to win I’d actually throw my hat in with him. There’s no way he’d lose if he could use the thing that makes him so great.

  84. AverageJ April 15, 2012 at 11:12 am -      #284

    “Prime is smart enough to sit this one out.

    He will be the first one to lose via voluntary Battlefield Removal.”

    Very true. He could take kong out and run, but then his risking it.

  85. AverageJ April 15, 2012 at 11:14 am -      #285

    “If negotiation were a possible allowed way to win I’d actually throw my hat in with him. There’s no way he’d lose if he could use the thing that makes him so great.”

    Good luck to him negotiating with godzilla and hulk and they some of the most stubborn characters around, fighting is usually there only solution.

  86. Hermit April 15, 2012 at 11:17 am -      #286

    “If negotiation were a possible allowed way to win I’d actually throw my hat in with him. There’s no way he’d lose if he could use the thing that makes him so great.”

    Unfortunately base Hulk has the IQ of a rock.
    Rancor becomes a pet.
    Gamera and Godzilla will probably listen to reason, but only if they’re not busy tearing each other to pieces.

  87. Hermit April 15, 2012 at 11:19 am -      #287

    Oh man, where did I get Gamera, I must’ve been thinking of this thread:
    Gamera vs Godzilla vs Ultraman.

    Replace Gamera with Kong.

  88. Sauroposeidon April 15, 2012 at 11:19 am -      #288

    “Irrelevant, that single attack will kill him.”

    Tell ya what. Go watch the movies. For reals. Go do it. I’ll wait. Go ahead. Future incarnations of Godzilla have him as being a singular creature at times, having him survive the Oxygen Destroyer. He also survived Dimension Tide. Go find out what Regenerator G-1 is.

    “Godzilla used in marvel is not Cannon.”

    Not Canon to what? Tell ya what, watch this.

    Godzilla Raids again – Not Cannon to Godzilla Returns.

    King Kong vs Godzilla – Not Cannon to Godzilla 2000

    Tokyo SOS – Not Cannon to Godzilla vs Biollante

    Ghidorah, the three headed monster – Not cannon to Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah, Giant Monster All Out Attack

    Destroy All Monsters – Not Cannon to Rebirth of Mothra

    Atragon – Not cannon to Final Wars

    I could do this all day. Godzilla is a series of disjointed movies. You can bitch that you don’t want to consider one version of Godzilla as actually being Godzilla but it won’t do you any good at all. Beyond this, I’ve not been using Marval Godzilla as a “This is his best” but “This is at his worst” marker. That is widely accepted as a very weak version of Godzilla, and if he can do it, then Final Wars sure as hell should be able to. It’s also the only one to have interacted with Marvel Characters who have also fought Hulk and/or his enemies. We can extrapolate from there. Get off Hulk’s junk, dude. Godzilla’s regen makes Wolverine blush, and there’s TWO instances of Godzilla (or at least pieces of him) surviving and retaining form after being inside OF A BLACK HOLE.

  89. Sauroposeidon April 15, 2012 at 11:24 am -      #289

    “Unfortunately base Hulk has the IQ of a rock.”

    I’ve seen base hulk talked down before. Usually making it clear that you don’t want to fight, wish to be his friend, ect, works. Prime’s taken one for the team to prove himself to superior opponents before (such as the Dinobots), and he may take a crushing blow for Hulk to prove his willingness to be his friend. Hulk’s dumb, sure, but he ain’t -that- dumb.

    Kong I think would be the most difficult to deal with. He’ll likely out right kill the Rancor before anyone can do anything about it and be all adrenaline’d up.

  90. AverageJ April 15, 2012 at 11:29 am -      #290

    “I could do this all day. Godzilla is a series of disjointed movies. You can bitch that you don’t want to consider one version of Godzilla as actually being Godzilla but it won’t do you any good at all. Beyond this, I’ve not been using Marval Godzilla as a “This is his best” but “This is at his worst” marker. That is widely accepted as a very weak version of Godzilla, and if he can do it, then Final Wars sure as hell should be able to. It’s also the only one to have interacted with Marvel Characters who have also fought Hulk and/or his enemies. We can extrapolate from there. Get off Hulk’s junk, dude. Godzilla’s regen makes Wolverine blush, and there’s TWO instances of Godzilla (or at least pieces of him) surviving and retaining form after being inside OF A BLACK HOLE.”

    *sigh* You cannot accept your character to lose, you’re beginning to sound like mrgendrons. If you have read the rules it states unless stated by the description it is the latest incarnation of the character. So unless im mistaken its final wars, and hulks latest incarnation is him separated from banner but he maintains some of banners intelligence. You still have not answered my question, what does godzilla have in his arsenal to kill hulk? and the black hole thing is not instant it took time enough time for it to count as hulks win if it did occur.

  91. Hermit April 15, 2012 at 11:31 am -      #291

    @ Sauro
    I’m thinking negotiation is impossible in this situation.

    Look, you have a guy whose fuel is anger, a giant gorilla whose facial expression ranges from ‘silently angry’ to ‘I’ll kill you!’, an otherworldly creature who’s first impression is “kill the first one in sight”, and a skyscraper tall dinosaur death machine with an appearance that just screams ‘I am your enemy’. That’s not to mention a walking truck.

    Negotiation will be the last thing on everyone’s (but Prime) mind.

    Hey, have you ever thought of Grimlock vs Godzilla.

  92. Riverlia April 15, 2012 at 11:45 am -      #292

    xxxx
    Godzilla’s not FTL so there’s not much he could do. Superman could effectively ring him out and win.
    xxxx
    Depend on the version.

    Marvel version Godzilla whaled on FTL planet buster like Thor.

    Some version has insane durability.
    Millenium Godzilla have tanked Absolute Zero and Singularity.
    Another Millenium version can regenerate from just a heart.
    Heisei era Godzilla tank Oxygen Destroyer (which vaporized the original Godzilla) and can destroy the planet if melt down.


    Optimus Prime power also vary greatly from version to version, if I’m not mistaken.

    We’ll need to confirm which version the the characters will be used first.

  93. Sauroposeidon April 15, 2012 at 11:46 am -      #293

    “Hey, have you ever thought of Grimlock vs Godzilla.”

    No. My autobots vs empire match up was my secret way of getting the dinobots back in to a match since every other attempt so far has failed. Also, Final Wars Godzilla literally possesses infinite energy, and is the best Godzilla ever. I think it’d be wise to wait for the next Godzilla movie, where he will likely not be so over the top, before he’s put in any more matches, or older, less powerful versions should be used in future matches until then.

    “I’m thinking negotiation is impossible in this situation.”

    Yeah, I’m about ready to give up on this guy. He completely ignores what he can’t counter. I just -love- watching only 10% of what I’ve said get addressed. He’s almost as bad as Chuck.

    “and the black hole thing is not instant it took time enough time for it to count as hulks win if it did occur.”

    It only took time because it temporally displaces the area it hits, randomly creating a time anomaly. Godzilla was thrown ahead in time a short distance. When you have gravity on the black hole scale it fucks with time.

    “You still have not answered my question, what does godzilla have in his arsenal to kill hulk?”

    Hulk’s not going to survive an infinite energy atomic ray, although he’d be BFR’d long before it actually kills him.

    “So unless im mistaken its final wars, and hulks latest incarnation is him separated from banner but he maintains some of banners intelligence. ”

    Except Final Wars is the most powerful incarnation of Godzilla to date… and base hulk is still base hulk.

  94. Sauroposeidon April 15, 2012 at 11:49 am -      #294

    “Marvel version Godzilla whaled on FTL planet buster like Thor.”

    The FTL characters virtually never fight at FTL, though… although this also works against my statement.

    “We’ll need to confirm which version the the characters will be used first”

    For Godzilla, it’s usually composite, final wars, or in the future “most recent”. Despite the most recent rule virtually all debates will use composite Godzilla, because that’s the spirit of the intent unless specified in every single match I’ve seen.

    Prime would be.. I want to say G1 but really it’s which ever version was the suggester’s favorite.

  95. Hermit April 15, 2012 at 11:53 am -      #295

    “Yeah, I’m about ready to give up on this guy. He completely ignores what he can’t counter. I just -love- watching only 10% of what I’ve said get addressed. He’s almost as bad as Chuck.”

    Oh, I was talking about Prime trying to negotiate with the other combatants.

    Heh, Megas XLR vs Godzilla. I’d pay to see that.
    Superman vs Godzilla also sounds good.

    Oh, for the others, let me put it this way.
    If Godzilla has no way of beating Hulk, does Hulk have a way of beating Godzilla?
    Battlefield Removal does not count since both characters can do it.

  96. Riverlia April 15, 2012 at 11:54 am -      #296

    xxx
    *sigh* You cannot accept your character to lose, you’re beginning to sound like mrgendrons. If you have read the rules it states unless stated by the description it is the latest incarnation of the character. So unless im mistaken its final wars, and hulks latest incarnation is him separated from banner but he maintains some of banners intelligence. You still have not answered my question, what does godzilla have in his arsenal to kill hulk? and the black hole thing is not instant it took time enough time for it to count as hulks win if it did occur.
    xxx
    Nah, the rule say this:
    xxx
    All combatants are considered to be at their current incarnations, or most recent incarnation prior to death and/or incapacitation that would prevent them from engaging in battle at optimum efficiency, within their own continuities unless otherwise specified by the battle’s scenario.
    xxx
    optimum efficiency within their own continuities.
    What I want to stress is “optimum efficiency” and “in their own continuities”

    Godzilla have many continuities, with proper licenses, even have multiple continuities made by the original company that gave birth to it. None of them are adaptation.

    Being able to beat FTL planet buster is canon to Marvel Godzilla
    Being able to regen, tank Absolute Zero and Singularity is canon to Millenium Godzilla
    Being able to shrug off Oxygen Destroyer and destroy the planet when Meltdown in canon to Heisei.

    And we were never told which version is canon continuity to boost.

  97. Commander Cross April 15, 2012 at 11:56 am -      #297

    Megas vs Gurren Lagann vs Ideon has the potential to be one of the most badass fights in the legacy of BankGambling, itself. :D

  98. Hermit April 15, 2012 at 11:59 am -      #298

    @ Commander
    Relevant to this thread how?

  99. Sauroposeidon April 15, 2012 at 12:03 pm -      #299

    I think Cross is on to something.. although Megas vs Gurren Lagann would be just fine with me… Oh wait, I’m off topic. Oh shit.

  100. Hermit April 15, 2012 at 12:06 pm -      #300

    @ Sauro
    I already suggested Megas vs GL.

    So, which of the Godzilla versions are we going to use?
    And which of the Prime versions would be most ideal.

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