King Kong Vs The Hulk Vs Optimus Prime Vs Rancor Vs Godzilla

King Kong Vs The Hulk Vs Optimus Prime Vs Rancor Vs Godzilla

Well let’s get the easy stuff out of the way first. Rancor would last about 3 steps before getting destroyed by any of the other combatants. It would then prolly go to Kong facing off against Godzilla, leaving the Hulk to pound on Optimus Prime. From there the Hulk would eventually mash Godzilla or toss him into a volcano…

How do you see this match playing out?

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861 Comments on "King Kong Vs The Hulk Vs Optimus Prime Vs Rancor Vs Godzilla"

  1. destroyhunter August 9, 2010 at 3:09 pm -      #101

    It doesn’t matter if Hulk could or couldn’t withstand Godzilla’s weight or strength anyways. Godzilla has enough firepower to vaporize almost if not all of these combatants. Unfortunately, the beams and lasers that Godzilla is capable of making make for an unfair advantage. Take it away, then we have a real battle. What do you say about it Admin? Should we announce at least the subtraction of Godzilla’s beams and breath?

  2. Belisaurius August 9, 2010 at 3:13 pm -      #102

    Mind you, the Hulk has been known to rearrange tectonic plates.

    He was REALLY mad at the time.

  3. destroyhunter August 9, 2010 at 3:15 pm -      #103

    True true, but is he mad now? It is not given which Hulk this is or how angry he is. Still, even with Hulk’s might, he may not be able to really beat Godzilla, not saying he can or can’t beat anyone else.

  4. Rorschach August 9, 2010 at 3:16 pm -      #104

    It was WORLD BREAKER Hulk that did that, and he almost sunk North American Continent.

  5. Belisaurius August 9, 2010 at 3:23 pm -      #105

    I suspect the Hulk might be pretty mad by the end of this battle.

    Don’t get me wrong, Godzilla is just too damn big and heals too damn fast to take out with anything short of a singularity warhead.

  6. destroyhunter August 9, 2010 at 3:32 pm -      #106

    More than a warhead most likely. He has survived greater forms of infliction than warheads before and survived.

  7. eza August 9, 2010 at 3:34 pm -      #107

    gonzilla, just because its gonzilla.

  8. eza August 9, 2010 at 3:35 pm -      #108

    sorry godzilla. the japoness translation is speltd diffrently.

  9. Negative Zero August 9, 2010 at 3:38 pm -      #109

    “sorry godzilla. the japoness translation is speltd diffrently.”

    I think its spelled like “Gojira” or something like that.

  10. AdjutantReflex August 9, 2010 at 3:44 pm -      #110

    I think we are undercrediting prime. how powerful are his beams? also, would his sword’s be effective?

  11. destroyhunter August 9, 2010 at 3:50 pm -      #111

    Yes, the swords would be affective against I presume everyone (or just about everyone). Hulk may be able to regenerate, and so would Godzilla probably, it would greatly affect King Kong and the Rancor however. And whose beams? Godzilla’s or Optimus Prime’s?

  12. mr.x August 29, 2010 at 2:59 pm -      #112

    are you all crazy the hulk can’t die hulk wins

  13. gesi bossi August 31, 2010 at 3:22 pm -      #113

    si po ja kaloni more

  14. mr.x September 26, 2010 at 6:35 pm -      #114

    I don’t know what that means.

  15. mr.x September 26, 2010 at 6:39 pm -      #115

    and also hulk would heal,quickly!

  16. i strongly disagree November 11, 2010 at 11:51 pm -      #116

    the hulk actually does have a really good chance. he has basic invulnerability to godzilla’s atomic breath, and if he is angry enough he could easily out-strength godzilla, prime, rancor, and kong combined. he is faster than kong, can both withstand, and dodge anything optimus can throw at him, and if the rancor can be crushed by a door, it can be crushed by the hulk.

  17. Axalon November 11, 2010 at 11:58 pm -      #117

    Doesn’t Godzilla have the capability to absorb radiation? If so, could he absorb any of the gamma radiation from the Hulk, or will “HULK SMASH BIG LIZARD”?

    Eew. I just imagined a Hulk-i-fied Godzilla. Japan is doomed.

  18. mr.x November 18, 2010 at 5:50 pm -      #118

    godzila can’t do that.

  19. TDCOprogmetal November 30, 2010 at 2:40 pm -      #119

    mr.x dude godzilla feeds upon energy and his favorite type of energy is radiation! basically godzilla is exactly like hulk (a mutation from radiation, has fast regeneration that makes him immortal, and gets stronger as he gets angrier). but the difference is hulk is a radioactive human when godzilla is a over 300ft tall radioactive beam spewing dinosaur (not lizard like the stupid weak american godzilla)

    godzilla has fought many foes bigger and stronger than hulk.

    godzilla has killed planet destroyers like King Ghidorah

    godzilla has killed or defeated Gods like King Caesar, Mothra, Megalon, and the 3 spirit gods in the movie GMK

    godzilla has withstanded nukes, armor peircing missiles, laser beams, ice beams, lava (hes lived in a volcano and swam in the earths crush), survived a meteor that him directly, survived a black hole, and he can breath in space (seen when he fights the planet buster king ghidorah on planet X).

    im not saying godzilla can kill hulk 100% (if he sucks out the radiation than yes he would kill bruce) but he sure can beat the tiny dude. hulk if would have to walk away if he cant die either.

  20. TDCOprogmetal November 30, 2010 at 2:43 pm -      #120

    p.s. hulk and godzilla kill the other 3 easily. godzilla and the hulk are invisible. kong, megatron, and the rancor arent. lol

  21. mr.x December 1, 2010 at 2:55 pm -      #121

    hulk can do all of that.

  22. Dustin Voss December 19, 2010 at 4:46 am -      #122

    Optimus is the smartest fighter of the bunch. King Kong and the Rancor are out of their league. Godzilla is huge and tough. I see it playing out like this.

    Hulk starts out mildly irritated, no threat. But he sees no threat, either, not even from Godzilla — Hulk knows he’s the strongest one there is. Kong and the Rancor go after the Hulk first; they will see him as the easiest target and they ain’t that bright. Optimus is going to be thinking of how to take down Godzilla. He’ll figure Godzilla to be at least equal to Devestator, etc., and maybe even Metroplex level.

    But when the Hulk wipes the floor with the Rancor and Kong, Prime will ask his help with Godzilla. Prime is a charismatic ‘bot and he’ll be able to sway the Hulk so long as he doesn’t shoot him. So the two of them take on Godzilla.

    And I think they can do it. They’ve both fought things that big before. Prime isn’t going to contribute as much to that fight as the Hulk, but he’ll be shooting big divots out of Godzilla’s hide while the Hulk powers up and starts giving Godzilla concussions and throwing him around by the tail.

    At this point, Prime knows he can’t take the Hulk. They part as friends. Or, if that isn’t an option, Prime heroically tries to kill the Hulk to save the planet and gets pounded into scrap.

  23. Dustin Voss December 19, 2010 at 4:51 am -      #123

    …assuming, that is, Prime is left alive after the fight with Godzilla. Godzilla’s radiation breath will be deadly and hell a corrosive to Prime. It might even scar up the Hulk — though it wouldn’t stop him. The Hulk has taken A-bombs to the face.

  24. Kytheros December 19, 2010 at 6:06 am -      #124

    Order killed in goes:
    Kong
    Rancor
    Prime

    Then follows epic combat with mass environment destruction. While Godzilla is damned near impossible to defeat, Hulk is more or less a walking no limits fallacy gone legit.
    Hulk would (after some time) be sufficiently angry to punt Godzilla into the sun.

    Also, a correction to something someone said the the previous page, I’m not sure how it got missed:
    “ok first off all the hulk lovers are just plain stupid because godzilla would blast him down to his bones and hulk would die not even his regenative power could save him i mean look at wolverine for that matter he has a regenrative power but when he got blasted down to his bones he just diedy”
    I assume you mean when Logan got hit by a nuke and flash-fried? He regenerated from that.

    Hulk barely got the equivalent of a human sunburn by nuclear weapons.
    In addition to being extraordinarily difficult to hurt in the first place, he has frighteningly powerful regeneration. On par with or perhaps slightly superior to that of Wolverine. Amusingly, when Hulk regenerates from injury, he becomes even more resistant to damage from the cause of that injury.
    That, plus the inherent difficulties in hitting Hulk, makes Hulk more or less impossible for Godzilla to put down quickly. Hulk’s abilities become even more powerful as he gets angrier.
    Theoretically, given Hulk’s past feats and sufficient anger, Hulk is nigh omnipotent. Granted, that level of anger is something that anyone who knows anything about the Hulk does not want to see, if only because it had to have a cause.

    For the purposes of this match, I think Godzilla being reduced to an incapacitated state requiring long-term, uninterrupted regeneration to successfully recover (such as being reduced to a heart) or being chucked into deep space or the sun or something, while perhaps not technically speaking ‘true death’ for Godzilla, should be considered equivalent to death.

    My position is that Godzilla cannot successfully kill the Hulk before Hulk’s anger makes that impossible. From that point on, it is simply a matter of time before Hulk becomes angry enough and demolishes Godzilla by whatever means necessary.

  25. man December 19, 2010 at 10:19 am -      #125

    @ Kytheros
    So true.
    All the other combatants would have to take out the Hulk (any Hulk) before his anger becomes too much for any of them to handle, even together.
    And which Prime are we using?
    Not that it matters, though Cybertron Prime should be able to last quite a while, given that he has his tralier and is given time to merge with it.

  26. Blazing Waffles December 19, 2010 at 12:00 pm -      #126

    Hulk and Godzilla can heal; that isn’t the same as being invincible. Plus, if I recall correctly, Hulk has been known to change back to Banner if he’s hurt enough. He might be able to hurt Godzilla, but he’d be fried by Big-G’s atomic breath first. He could likely punch Godzilla hard enough to knock him over or something, but that’s assuming he isn’t squashed first.

    This is Godzilla we’re talking about. He can dish out hurt. Hulk changes back if he’s hurt enough. The rest is obvious.

    Prediction: Godzilla wins, rather easily actually.

  27. mr.x December 20, 2010 at 2:06 pm -      #127

    hulk dasen’t tern back if he gets hert to mach nun of you people must read “Hulk” or “Incredabl Hulk” comic do you.

  28. tyz July 2, 2011 at 12:22 am -      #128

    from the comments, it seems that hulk would be quite the adversary for Goji, all the other combatants are pretty much out of their league. im giving mine to Godzilla, not only does he have the size advantage, Godzilla is fully in control of his radiation (except when he melts down), the hulk is only powerful when angry, so if Godzilla destroys before that happens….

  29. chuckforest July 2, 2011 at 12:32 am -      #129

    Hulk got angry enough to step on a continent and sink it.

    He also at one time was able to stop matter and anti-matter from exploding. He also can hold black holes and other crazy stuff. Hulk is guaranteed victory.

  30. Hermit July 2, 2011 at 12:39 am -      #130

    “from the comments, it seems that hulk would be quite the adversary for Goji, all the other combatants are pretty much out of their league. im giving mine to Godzilla, not only does he have the size advantage, Godzilla is fully in control of his radiation (except when he melts down), the hulk is only powerful when angry, so if Godzilla destroys before that happens….”

    IF that happens, one wrong/miscalculated/missed/weak attack from any of the other combatants would result in an angry green monster who throws mountains with ease. And it’s not like Godzilla would immediately go for the Hulk, King Kong looks more of a threat due to his size.

    As for King Kong, didn’t that gorilla once defeated Godzilla?

    Prime would most likely take the wise route and wait out the fight.

  31. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 12:46 am -      #131

    Godzilla is 55,000 tons, putting him out of the weight range of anyone here except for Hulk.

    Let’s take a few looks at Godzilla’s feats.

    He has advanced healing, healing that makes Logan go DAAAAMN. He -instantly- heals from most damage, and can regenerate from what would be fatal damage. The only time we’ve seen a Godzilla die and stay dead was Kiryu, who appeared to wish to stay dead by the end of the Godzilla x Mechagodzilla movies. This is the only time I’ve seen one not come back. Other versions of this same Godzilla have come back despite being atomized by the Oxygen Destroyer. Another Godzilla has been smacked with a localized black hole and lived.

    Godzilla has thrown a 30,000 ton opponent over the visible horizon, and threw a 100,000 ton enemy in to orbit, for strength feats. The second feat was performed once Godzilla had been infused with Keizer Energy, giving him literally infinite amounts of energy (unless the infinity sign no longer means infinity).

    Before he obtained infinite energy he still took a blast that leveled all of tokyo and left him in a crater hundreds of meters wide with no visible damage and no tiring what so ever. Proceeded to fight Monster X who was his equal in terms of speed and strength to a stand still after an extended period of time and then their clashing beams created another explosion on the same scale as the one mentioned before with enough force to send both monsters flying in opposite directions.

    Hulk’s only shot at this is if he’s angry enough to be able to match Godzilla blow for blow.. which is extremely unlikely to begin with, and even then Godzilla is known to absorb radiation. Hulk will become little more than a living battery for the King of the Monsters. Powerless before the true atomic abomination as he turns all before him to ash. You will need an actual god of some sort to hope to stand a chance, or a way to turn his own power against him… not that that always works. The Super X reflected Godzilla’s atomic breath back at him literally 1,000 times as powerful as before. The ray was strong enough to cause earth quakes. It didn’t little more than to confuse and antagonize him further, to quote Mr.Burr.

    You can not kill Godzilla. He is immortal. The best you can hope to do is leave a battle scar for him to remember you by.

    You will almost never be physically stronger than Godzilla, and never stronger than Final Wars Godzilla.

    How did this even begin to be a fair match? Godzilla’s spines will glow briefly and then all the rest of us will see is a mushroom cloud from his atomic blast.

    Realistically.. if this weren’t a fight to the death I put my money on Prime. He’d be able to appeal to everyone here outside of the Rancor, which he could easily put down if this was not one of the more intelligent ones, but alas, few people are interested in having characters who’s strengths lay outside of their battle prowess but more in the core of their character have a chance to use those abilities.

  32. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 12:56 am -      #132

    @ Hermit

    That version of Kong was much larger, and a god of thunder. When Godzilla was winning Thunderclouds miraculously formed and zapped him with lightning, giving Kong the ability to electrocute the shit out of Godzilla. This is also and older version of Godzilla, this was literally the third movie out of the Godzilla franchise.

    Final Wars Godzilla is nearly twice the weight of that godzilla and twice the height. He’s faster, stronger, and smarter too.

    However, it is very common on Daikaiju VS concepts to simply scale the monsters to match each other. To be honest, I’d prefer it, give everyone here more of a fighting chance.. but in the end.. Godzilla prevails. Kong won his match by jamming Godzilla in to a gap in some sea rock and then swimming away. Godzilla opted not to follow and fell asleep (being a lazy SOB is surprisingly a constant character trait over the years) until events in Godzilla vs Mothra awoke him.

  33. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 1:31 am -      #133

    Correction. There was another Godzilla which died. When his core reached a temperature of 10,000 degrees Celsius it melted, which caused him to instantly lose control of his powers. The run away power caused him to suffer a melt down. The result would have been the destruction of the planet if not for another Godzilla (which was presumed dead) absorbing all of that energy. This gave it an enormous power boost. This is the only method I know of to kill a Godzilla, and it relies on Godzilla’s power being turned on himself through an unknown means which the humans are never able to discover, only theorize as to what was happening to Godzilla.

  34. Hermit July 2, 2011 at 1:51 am -      #134

    “When his core reached a temperature of 10,000 degrees Celsius it melted, which caused him to instantly lose control of his powers.”
    And Hulk is a walking Nuclear Reactor, doesn’t his body emit radiation, or was it the wrong Hulk?

    And like said before, unless Godzilla can finish this early and get away quickly, Hulk will only come out or every attack angrier than before.

    @ Sauroposeidon
    I am with you about Prime’s charisma, where his true skills lie in his leadership and “inspirational” speeches.

  35. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 2:04 am -      #135

    Hulk being a nuclear reactor more means that no matter how strong he gets, he’s constantly making Godzilla even stronger.

    My best guess for why Godzilla lost control of his powers is his continuous mutation as he grew stronger somehow nulled his regen, as it was never played up in the hesei era and he was more portrayed as just being armored like a mother f-..well, you get the idea. The whole point behind Godzilla is he is somehow surviving his condition which should be instantly fatal. Yet instead he becomes more powerful from it. His healing factor is as such that it even allows him to adapt to energy attacks that once hurt him and absorb them for use against his enemy. This has happened once in Showa and once in Millenium.

    Anyways, I just don’t see how Hulk can do this. The stronger he gets, the stronger Godzilla gets.. and Godzilla is also already literally infinitely strong thanks to Ozaki and even before that he was strong enough to pound Hulk in to paste before Hulk has a chance to get really, really angry.

  36. Hermit July 2, 2011 at 2:10 am -      #136

    Oh my!
    So then this battle will end all battles, and we might potentially have no winner, as the entire planet is destroyed.
    But for the sake of having a winner, we’ll just go with whoever is is better condition after the planet is destroyed, and Gdzilla’s regeneration should give him the win, though Hulk will still not be down after that.

  37. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 2:11 am -      #137

    Also.. I know he posted a long time ago, but…

    @ Kytherios

    Last time we got Godzilla DNA put in to space we got an even more powerful Godzilla complete with a myriad of super powerful psychic abilities. Last time Godzilla got hit with a nuclear reaction we got Godzilla. AT WHAT POINT does throwing him in to the frickin’ sun EVER SOUND LIKE A GOOD IDEA?!

  38. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 2:20 am -      #138

    I don’t think it’ll come to planetary destruction.. if it does Godzilla will almost certainly fall in to hibernation. He has a bad habit of doing that when he gets too cold. He’s fine with no oxygen apparently, since he slept in a volcano’s magma literally for years in Godzilla vs Biollante. He was also completely encased in ice for decades with no oxygen in Godzilla Final Wars.

    The Marvel version of Godzilla isn’t quite as much of a power house, and is routinely brought down due to lack of oxygen. Despite being commonly acknowledged as the weakest version of Godzilla next to the American version, he was still able to fight The Avengers, the Fantastic Four, and a Shield Helicarrier and was pretty much curb stomping that fight if I recall. Thor could do little more than give Godzilla a very sore nose and an equally very sore attitude. The Human Torch could not with stand his Atomic Breath. The only thing that saved them was the fact that Godzilla was nice enough to stop when kindly asked.

  39. Hermit July 2, 2011 at 2:28 am -      #139

    @ Sauroposeidon
    Don’t ask me, perhaps throwing the damn monster into New Jersey, where Coop from Megas XLR lives, is the only way to finally put Godzilla to rest.

  40. Kytheros July 2, 2011 at 2:33 am -      #140

    “@ Kytherios
    Last time we got Godzilla DNA put in to space we got an even more powerful Godzilla complete with a myriad of super powerful psychic abilities. Last time Godzilla got hit with a nuclear reaction we got Godzilla. AT WHAT POINT does throwing him in to the frickin’ sun EVER SOUND LIKE A GOOD IDEA?!”
    First of all, there’s no ‘i’ in Kytheros.
    Second of all, chucking Godzilla into deep space or the sun or something similar effectively removes Godzilla from the battlefield with no way to get back. My point was that in such an instance where Godzilla is effectively removed from the battlefield with no way to get back that even though Godzilla may or may not be technically dead from it, Godzilla ought to be considered incapacitated to the point where he should be counted as being “dead” for the purposes of awarding a match victory.

  41. Soldier's Shadow July 2, 2011 at 2:45 am -      #141

    “Don’t ask me, perhaps throwing the damn monster into New Jersey, where Coop from Megas XLR lives, is the only way to finally put Godzilla to rest.”

    Nah, take the easier route and send it to Metropolis where Big Blue will take care of him no problem.

  42. Blood Dancer July 2, 2011 at 6:38 am -      #142

    “Nah, take the easier route and send it to Metropolis where Big Blue will take care of him no problem.”

    Doc Manhattan would a much better job, Soldier. Well, either him or Big G.

  43. man July 2, 2011 at 8:01 am -      #143

    @ Blood Dancer
    Sorry, who’s Big G?

  44. Blood Dancer July 2, 2011 at 8:39 am -      #144

    @Man

    Galactus, who else?

  45. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 11:11 am -      #145

    @ Kytheros

    Whoops, sorry.

    Just throwing Godzilla in to space NOT at any star in particular would be a good idea.. but there’s the issue of Godzilla tail smacking Hulk out of the battle field as well.

    @ Soldier’s Shadow

    Is the current incarnation of Super Man able to really stand against Godzilla?

    @ Blood

    Godzilla’s more traditionally known as “Big G” (that seniority thing is a bitch, isn’t it?) and if Galactus showed up wanting to eat Toho’s Earth he’d probably find out why… although more than likely Armor Mothra would be the first and last thing he ever sees. Being a flying no limits fallacy helps, though.

  46. Hac148 July 2, 2011 at 11:21 am -      #146

    @ everyone
    hulk can also absorb raditation, apparently were forgetting that. just because godzilla is bigger doesnt mean his abilities are dominant. hulk draws, if anything, more strength from godzilla than the other way around due to his sheer size and output. the breaath of Gzilla will also just be pure radiation which will be absorbed by the hulk.

    one of godzillas sacrifices due to sheer size is he loses flexibility. hulk leaps onto godzilla’s back and either punches his way through the monsters spine and into his heart, where he rips the damn thing apart, or if he is angry enough merely snaps the giant lizards neck, i have seen every godzilla movie there is and he is a walking god. but in this case his powers fuel hios opponent to larger degreee than the other way around. i cant see godzilla winning this.

  47. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 11:40 am -      #147

    @ Hac

    There’s no reason to think Hulk can absorb Godzilla’s energy faster than the other way around, when Godzilla’s have absorbed nuclear energy that should have vaporized them in an instant (or should have destroyed the planet even) quickly enough to stop their own destruction.

    Only Marvel’s version of Godzilla is pure radiation. It began as simple fire breath which had a fall out effect due to Godzilla being radioactive. It’s since progressed in to some kind of plasma blast.. but only Marvel has ever stated that it’s pure radiation.

    Godzilla is as flexible as a human being… not that he needs to be. Hulk jumping on Godzilla’s back will likely result in a nuclear pulse. A concussive AOE blast Godzilla uses when his atomic ray is not an option. There’s no reason to believe Hulk is anywhere strong enough to counter Godzilla’s supposedly infinite strength if he tries to snap Godzilla’s neck or punch through him.. Not that it’d matter. His healing factor is as such that this may only be a brief knock out. If we’re giving him Regenerator G-1 he may not even be down for more than a few seconds.

    Godzilla has NEVER energy drained any opponent, because he’s never fought another atomic foe.. so I have no idea where you get this idea of Godzilla losing leeching battles. At best, Godzilla has shown that leeching from him is a terrible, god awful idea, as he has killed Orga through this and Keizer Ghidorah found out that a Keizer powered Godzilla is a bad thing to snack from. He is a no limits beast. Hulk needs to get angry and get angry fast to be able to hope to ring Godzilla out. Otherwise Godzilla is doing the same or killing him right off the bat

    Have you actually seen Godzilla Final Wars? You have to remember how Keizer Ghidorah got burned. This of course was only after Godzilla was given infinite energy.

  48. The_Assassin711 July 2, 2011 at 11:53 am -      #148

    “and if Galactus showed up wanting to eat Toho’s Earth he’d probably find out why… although more than likely Armor Mothra would be the first and last thing he ever sees.”

    Galactus can destroy universes….. I don’t see how he could ever lose to Godzilla. I don’t know much about Galactus but isn’t he FTL or something similar as well…?

  49. Hac148 July 2, 2011 at 11:53 am -      #149

    i am full aware of final wars, but we cant reasonably use feats from a godzilla with infinite power, as that was an isolated incident, and not standard canon. thats like saying hulk comes standard with captain america’s sheild just because he used it once.

  50. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 12:06 pm -      #150

    Godzilla Final Wars is the last Godzilla movie made. At the end of it even Ozaki couldn’t stand against him, the same guy who GAVE Godzilla his current power level. Saying Godzilla can’t be that strong because it only happened at the end of the movie is like saying Mothra Leo can’t use the Armor Mothra state in a fight because he only got it at the end of his movie, too.

  51. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 12:16 pm -      #151

    @ Assassin

    Mothra can move fast enough to time travel, and can’t be harmed in the Armor Mothra state and can opt to kill anything he touches. This is why I said Galactus wouldn’t get close enough to Earth to encounter Godzilla.

    I don’t think Galactus could beat Godzilla mainly because Galactus doesn’t actually have the fire power to kill Godzilla. When you survive singularities its hard to imagine what COULD kill you outside of something that out right erases you from time. Galactus would show up to feed only to to find the original Big G waiting to pound him. His only hope is to use the Ultimate Nullifier and then he needs to hope Godzilla can’t come back from THAT, considering he’s been completely disintegrated before and still came back. In the end, I think Galactus would find Toho’s Earth too much of a bother to actually waste time with, especially considering Godzilla isn’t the only power house on the block in Toho.

  52. Blood Dancer July 2, 2011 at 12:34 pm -      #152

    @Sauro

    Galactus has these among his powers and abilities:

    Size-Alteration: Galactus can manipulate his size, density, mass and ratio at will, allowing him to reshape his body to any physique type he wishes.

    Molecular Restructuring: Galactus can manipulate, reshape and rearrange the molecular complexions of any organism, allowing him to rebuild or redesign things internally.

    Matter Transmutation: Being a cosmic being, Galactus can control matter in any object which allows him to turn something tangible like lead, into something intangible like water.

    Can Godzilla counter those?

  53. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 12:35 pm -      #153

    Perhaps I’m wrong though.. Maybe Godzilla has been but a lost herald of Galactus all this time..

    www.flickr.com/photos/45367241@N00/4621735148/#/photos/45367241@N00/4621735148/lightbox/

  54. The_Assassin711 July 2, 2011 at 12:48 pm -      #154

    @Sauro
    IHow do you come back from not existing, period? (If it was a FP match I believe causing the other fighter to cease to exist in reality constitutes a win, even if it can even be proven it wouldn’t beat the person, I think it would at least count as an incapacitation win.)

    I don’t know enough about Galactus to debate the matter, I’m only going off of what I’ve heard in the past and his BankGambling Wiki page, but I was just surprised that you said Godzilla could beat one of Marvel’s heaviest hitters. (especailly one that can do just about anything…)

  55. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 12:54 pm -      #155

    @ Blood Dancer

    Size Alteration: Congrats, he can now achieve the same feat as one of Godzilla’s low tier allies.

    Molecular Restructuring: This has been done to Godzilla before. He regenerated from it.

    Matter Tran- Wait, wait, WAIT! Didn’t the one just before this cover that?

    Godzilla’s feats are:

    Can tank singularities

    Can regenerate from being atomized.

    Has supposedly infinite energy thanks to Ozaki being a Keizer. Although thanks to his movies NEVER USING LOGIC, lookin’ at you Toho… I know it’s a movie about a 100 meter dinosaur but COME ON, this ability is never really explained. This made Ozaki essentially to reality what Neo was to the Matrix.. so he made Godzilla infinitely powerful to defeat Ghidorah… How’d that turn out for you Ozaki? Yeah, I thought so.

    Again, the problem is Godzilla is a combination of being both immortal and invincible. Galactus may not be able to kill him. Godzilla, on the other hand, probably can’t kill Galactus either so this would be one of those typical comic book fights where somebody eventually has to just back off. A creature like Godzilla can hurt Galactus, and Galactus can certainly hurt Godzilla..but when blow comes to blow Galactus will drain himself of his energy over time through prolonged combat while Godzilla.. Godzilla just keeps going.

    I think a better fight for Galactus is Unicron, personally. Always wanted to see them go at it.

  56. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 12:57 pm -      #156

    @ Assassin

    I’m looking at it from the point of view of Godzilla driving Galactus off from Earth, not Godzilla killing Galactus.

  57. Paladino July 2, 2011 at 1:14 pm -      #157

    Godzilla will Pawn them all

    the G-Dude is the real catastrophe dealer

  58. The_Assassin711 July 2, 2011 at 1:20 pm -      #158

    @Sauro
    And I’m looking at it from a FP match point of view. (Though your scenario would fit into a “What If” match better than an actual match.)

    In a straight up fight I don’t see Galactus losing against just about anything from the Godzilla-verse..

  59. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 1:53 pm -      #159

    @ Assassin

    Armor Mothra is invulnerable and has an instant-kill attack. There is of course that infinite energy bit with Godzilla. In theory he could just blow away galactus. He can’t be any more powerful than a universe, which means he can’t really strike with more power than a singularity, in theory.. and Godzilla tanks those.. or destroys them. I’ve read his atomic ray actually nullified the black hole, but it LOOKS like it hits him right in the mouth.. So I guess it’s up for interpretation. Considering his beam doesn’t crack open the planet in that movie, though, I’m more inclined to believe his atomic ray did not actually defeat the black hole.

    Then there’s the fact that the humans actually have access to the technology to build guns which fire black holes…

    Galactus is tough, but if he had an all out fight with the Toho-verse,. just keep in mind one important thing. Godzilla IS NOT the Monster’s actual name. Godzilla is more like.. a term. Like, say, “Cat” or “Dog”. Just think about that for a moment. There are of course other power houses but taking on Toho’s idea of Earth isn’t going to go as well as taking on Marvel’s idea of Earth. Especially if various aliens with an eye on the blue gem of the solar system itself want to fight Galactus for rights to it. The power of many are not much to Galactus but when combined, it gets difficult to see why Galactus is going to stick around. Besides Keizer Godzilla and Armor Mothra, and the other Godzillas, there’s planet busters and city busters (A LOT of City Busters) which will also be unloading on him.

    If you want a real fight to the death, no holds bars, no limitation, I’d say remove the ability to win through incapacitation or ring out, let them fight with the full of their abilities, and again.. it becomes a battle of attrition. Eventually, Galactus starves, or the universe ends.. and you’re left with Godzilla, alone, for .. well, I’d say eternity, but in the end, would time as we understand it still even exist? Then again, if Galactus can time travel, maybe he goes back in time and wipes out Earth before Godzilla even exists and a fight never even happens. =/

  60. chuckforest July 2, 2011 at 2:31 pm -      #160

    Godzilla can NOT stand up to a universe buster, end of question, a singularity is not the same as pwning universes.

    And currently isn’t Gah-lac-tus or something like that a Von Neumann swarm of planet eating ships?

  61. The_Assassin711 July 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm -      #161

    Like I said I don’t know enough to debate it but… meh nothing better to do really…

    “Armor Mothra is invulnerable”

    Galactus could just change the substances that make mothra up into something.. less durable.

    “He can’t be any more powerful than a universe,”

    I’m not quite sure what ‘stronger than a universe’ means but I think I know what you mean, andin that case, yes he is, he can destroy multiverses as well.

    “Then there’s the fact that the humans actually have access to the technology to build guns which fire black holes…”

    Galactus has the power cosmic on his side, unless he’s starving (and even then) black holes wouldn’t help.

    ” I’ve read his atomic ray actually nullified the black hole”

    And the Ultimare Nullifier is a multi-verse buster. I’m thinking Galactus’s attacks have the advantage.

    “Eventually, Galactus starves, or the universe ends.. and you’re left with Godzilla, alone, for .. well, I’d say eternity,”

    Or Godzilla ceases to exist with the rest of the BankGamblingverse, leaving only Galactus.

    ” but in the end, would time as we understand it still even exist?”

    No. There would be no time because there would be nothing, save for Galactus.

    ” Besides Keizer Godzilla and Armor Mothra, and the other Godzillas, there’s planet busters and city busters (A LOT of City Busters) which will also be unloading on him.”

    City/planet busters

    " if Galactus can time travel, maybe he goes back in time and wipes out Earth before Godzilla even exists and a fight never even happens. =/"

    FP rules, there is no time-stream before the the 2 enter the BankGamblingverse for a fight (unless specified otherwise by the OP).

    Here's his BankGamblingwiki page I guess…. Since that's really all I'm going off of and this isn't and official debate (I expect it to be decently reliable at least.).
    BankGambling.wikispaces.com/Galactus

  62. Sauroposeidon July 2, 2011 at 4:48 pm -      #162

    @ Chuck

    You need to read up on black holes more. To put it as shortly as possible, Black Hole = Big Bang. To even survive being hit with one is just pure insanity and reeks of the writer not really knowing what the fuck they’re dealing with and how insanely powerful they’re making the character. To even touch one doesn’t just generate crushing forces, it traps you in time. An eternity for us is little but an imperceptibly small instant once you’ve gotten to that event horizon. This is because the gravity well, as I understand it, plummets to infinity due to the extreme forces being applied. It doesn’t just create a gravity pull that is for all intents and purposes infinite to the point that it captures light, it pulls in TIME ITSELF. To survive a black hole you have to be both invincible and immortal. Beyond this, it’s been hypothesized that black holes are to big bangs as wombs are to babies. Because of this, even with short lived and localized black holes you have an area which is incinerating in the infinite burning energy of creation and is subject to a literal eternity. All the rules of our reality break down and nothing works the way it should anymore.

    This is why I actually think hulk tanking a Black Hole is PIS because they clearly didn’t have it work like a Black Hole. I have no doubt that he could but by the time he got out of it the universe would be long dead. The best you can due to weather it and the eternity of off the chart pressures and heat that it forces upon you, if it’s one that ends itself like most black holes do when they’re being used as ammunition. Otherwise you’re not getting out of it with out being able to control space-time.

    Does that sum it up for you? Tanking a big bang or black hole puts you on the scale of being as strong as universe, this is about as powerful as you can get because we’ve never imagined anything bigger than a universe. The most powerful weapons in scifi still only effect things on the scale of a universe but have trans-dimensional effects which allow them to harm other universes outside of a single mech I’ve heard of.. which happens to be from a pornographic japanese video game so I have no desire to dig deeper to find information on that particular robot. I just know it’s apparently so big it destroyed it’s own universe just by existing and “bumps in to other universes” due to it’s size.. which.. I’ll uh.. yeah.. You can figure that one out.

    @ Assassin

    Mothra from the Rebirth series is highly magical, and has trapped an unkillable planet eater before, although Death Ghidorah was not able to just blow up entire solar systems with the blink of an eye, it was supposedly impossible to kill. There comes a point in time where you have to ask if because Galactus can do what he does in his own universe does this mean he automatically trumps something from another universe which nothing else has ever been able to so much as harm? Do we know he’d ignore Mothra’s magic? Do we know he’d be able to actually blink Godzilla out of existence? If it effects something on a temporal scale, I could see it working.. but with out time travel you get to the point where you have a monster that survives the energies required to create entire universes.. and Galactus is little more than the remnant of the past universe with a sapient being’s conciousness. I don’t see how Galactus’ ability could trump Godzilla’s invulnerability. It seems to me he’d go “Stop existing” and Godzilla would just growl at him because his infinite levels of energy and durability allow him to physically resist Galactus’ attempts to pull at what makes him what he is.

    This also isn’t a typical FP match. I’m not as stingy as the FP rules, and I prefer settings that allow the full force of their abilities to be brought to bear while also be fitting for how they would meet. In this case it means an inter-galactic being like Galactus would be traveling to Toho’s Earth, only to find a race of dinosaurs that are powerful enough to tank black holes and one which has infinite energy.

    Also, I do think black holes would help. I don’t think they’d kill him, or trap him, because they can’t be more powerful than him and he controls space time, but the idea here is to tire him, as quickly as possible. Toho’s Earth can’t chase Galactus if he leaves, but they can make him realize that it’s a real pain in the ass to try and eat their world. When you get to the point where the forces the defenders can unleash could conceivably destroy the planet and the amount of energy Galactus would have to expend to defeat every single one of these opponents, I don’t see why he’d stick around. Especially with Godzilla there defending it.

  63. chuckforest July 4, 2011 at 12:04 am -      #163

    I am aware of what a black hole is, they also have found proof of white holes which they believe might spew the radiation the black holes nom.

    And this can be expressed in simple math.

    If black hole=1 universe power (it doesn’t but we’ll pretend it does)
    And Galactus is multiversal in power, so he wins.
    He likely just makes Godzilla go poof, Hulk also rapes black holes.

  64. Blood Dancer July 4, 2011 at 2:48 am -      #164

    Last time I checked and it was like 5/6 years ago, when I stopped reading comics, Galactus could restart the Universe, change the size of things and whatnot and could only be harmed by the Ultimate Nullifier – the same thing his daughter wanted to use on herself when she thought she had a virus inside her.

    So unless this has changed I doubt that some overgrown lizard will be able to do much damage to Big G.

  65. Hermit July 4, 2011 at 3:02 am -      #165

    I have a better fighter for Godzilla, Doomsday.

  66. tyz August 5, 2011 at 12:17 am -      #166

    the final ending would be one of 3 endings

    1. hulk wins
    2. Godzilla wins
    3. the fight ends in a draw if Godzilla goes melt down.

    the others have nothing on these two. if Godzilla goes meltdown, either he kills everyone else or blows up, still taking everyone out with him

  67. Sauroposeidon August 5, 2011 at 12:48 am -      #167

    The absolute weakest version of Godzilla EVER smacked around around the Avengers, The Fantastic Four, and SHIELD like they were nothing. All at the same time. Hulk can’t compete. He’ll be killed literally right off the bat by Final Wars Godzilla.

    @ Chuck

    Hulk doesnt rape black holes. He survived one due to PIS because the writers don’t understand how black holes work. If I recall he literally hulk smashed the core of a black hole to get out. The core has infinity density in an infinitely small area with infinite gravity and time is locked down. You will literally never ever get to the core or find it or smash it unless the writer doesn’t understand black holes.

    White holes are also just a hypothesis at this point.

    A black hole MIGHT equal one universe in power, if the primary concept of White Holes exists, which involves them being the source of a singularity for another universe. Or any other hypothesis involving them being the source of a universe is true.

    Galactus is not multi-universal. He’s the conscious remnant of the last universe. Which means he is a living universe in the form of a humanoid.. thing… That power is pretty vast, but it’d not really multi-universal unless shown.

    “Galactus could restart the Universe, change the size of things and whatnot and could only be harmed by the Ultimate Nullifier – the same thing his daughter wanted to use on herself when she thought she had a virus inside her.”

    Final Wars Godzilla has “infinite” (insert energy, strength, ect here) thanks to Ozaki. Simply trying to leech off him caused explosive shock waves to rip through Kaizer Ghidorah’s throats. He tossed/blasted said kaiju effortlessly in to orbit. If he wanted to, there’s a good chance he COULD hurt Galactus. Kill him? Probably. It’s happened before, although if I recall that either results in something awful or he just goes Jesus on us and regens. On the other end of the spectrum, Godzilla has been completely disintegrated. To do this requires a chemical reaction in which sub atomic particles are rapidly exchanged between each other to balance the offending chemical out and stabilize it. This is how acids and bases hurt us. Whatever effected Godzilla did something to Oxygen, as it’s literally called The Oxygen Destroyer. Whatever Galactus does, it can’t be worse than having your sub atomic particles 100% ripped away and rearranged, or worse than the infinite pressure applied by a black hole. While both of these techniques put him down for some time, neither effectively killed him (with the exception of GMK, and GxMG Godzilla as that one WISHED to remain ‘dead’) for good.

    If Godzilla and Galactus fought, the universe would end. Especially after Godzilla adapts to and absorbs some Cosmic Power for his own use, as he’s demonstrated the ability to adapt and absorb repeatedly. G:KotM, GvsMG, and GMK.

    Hulk doesn’t even stand a remote chance. This guy is called The King of the Monsters for a good reason. It will take Hulk ages to even equal Godzilla before the Keizer Ozaki boost.

  68. chuckforest August 5, 2011 at 2:02 am -      #168

    @Sauro smashing the core out of a black hole is raping it. (not literally)

    And this discussion on black holes is stupid, we should drop it, we don’t even really know much about black holes, you stating they have the power of a universe is fruitless also, seeing as there are tons of black holes in our verse. And supermassive black holes are more powerful then your average one, does that mean it is a more powerful universe? (rolls eyes)

    And I looked it up and he doesn’t in fact pwn universes as I have heard. Here are some of his powers, from the Marvel Directory.
    “Known Superhuman Powers: Galactus possesses cosmic power beyond the abilities of human beings to measure. Galactus is able to use the vast energies within him for an incalculable number of effects. Some of his most rudimentary abilities are the molecular restructuring or conversion of matter, the projection of energy with enormous concussive force, the teleportation of objects across space or even time, and the erection of invincible energy-screens and force fields. Even his heralds, whom he has endowed with a small fraction of his ever-renewing power, are able to manipulate matter and energy in ways far beyond human comprehension.”

    But yeah, Hulk still wins.

  69. Sauroposeidon August 5, 2011 at 8:38 am -      #169

    “And this discussion on black holes is stupid, we should drop it, we don’t even really know much about black holes, you stating they have the power of a universe is fruitless also, seeing as there are tons of black holes in our verse. And supermassive black holes are more powerful then your average one, does that mean it is a more powerful universe? (rolls eyes)”

    Super Massive Blackholes simply have more mass. They literally break the laws of physics to begin with, but the super massive ones seems to have a wider area of effect as near as I can tell. So yes, in a sense they are more powerful, but at the center everything we know or understand about the universe unravels and starts playing ping pong with our grasp of reality. Arguing that because there’s a lot doesn’t help any. A stable black hole is still supposed to have infinite density. Imagine for a moment that the fabric of space time is a sheet stretched out. Imagine its a very big sheet, maybe foot ball field sized. Now place watermelons here and there on this suspended, stretched out sheet. Each one of these represents a star.

    When the watermelon rests on the sheet, they create a dent in it, and sag downwards. Roll a golf ball by and if it gets caught in the slope of the dent it rolls around (or does until it loses momentum anyways, but you get the idea). This is similar to the effect of gravity, the more massive the object, the greater the gravity well, the wider the effect and the deeper it is.

    A black hole would make a dent which stretched for eternity downwards. But it’s not sloped like the watermelon dips in he sheet. It begins that way, but once you reach what is the event horizon it’s just an instant drop off, like an actual well. It just goes on for forever. This extreme stretch of space time is, at my best guess, what causes time to basically freeze.

    The reason Hulk can’t do what he does to black holes is because even if he were strong enough to reverse the effects, if we go with Einstein’s model, he’d NEVER get to the core. Beyond this, even if he did, there’s the issue with being frozen in time. Literally, it takes so long for a thought to occur due to the construction of our brains. It’s virtually instant but it still takes time. By the time he’s had the thought to even REACT to what’s happened to him, that one minute instant, a literal eternity will have passed to the rest of the Universe.

    So Hulk must..

    A. Be FTL
    B. Be infinitely stronger than ever shown any time else. World War Hulk’s feats are ABSOLUTELY NOTHING compared to this feat.
    C. Be infinitely more durable than ever shown any time else.
    D. Be able to age infinitely.
    E. Have some form of time travel. Omnipotent time travel as he’d need to over come the infinite stretch to the core.

    Hulk busting a black hole is PIS. Mainly because of E. Godzilla never destroyed his black hole, he just weathered it out because his artificial black hole was not stable and snuffed itself out after a few seconds. As far as Godzilla is concerned, everything got real dark and heavy and hot so he just went to sleep, probably.

    You just don’t fuck with black holes. They are the ultimate force in nature. Nothing is stronger than them. They are the real world example of infinity and may very well be the genesis for new universes.

    On an entirely different note, Galactus probably could just obliterate our universe if there weren’t other super powerful entities around that could stop him as well as the fact that even he needs to eat.

    Now back to Hulk.

    It will take Hulk so long to even begin to rival Godzilla’s strength that the fight is over before it begins. It’d literally take one tail whack and all Hulk can do is enjoy the ride to ring out as he enters orbit. Assuming Godzilla doesn’t just eat him and drain him of his energy and use him as a nice little battery for the rest of time.

    You can’t kill Godzilla. It’s literally impossible.

    You can’t be stronger than Godzilla, he’s a living embodiment of the concept of infinity now.

    You can’t be more durable than him for the same reason.

    He has a healing factor that makes Wolverine’s look like crap in comparison.

    He EATS radiation. Hulk is just a snack to him.

    Hulk loses. hard. This isn’t even a debate. It’s you acting like Hulk is stronger when he takes ages to get strong enough for Godzilla to even notice his blows and needs to be sufficiently angry and he can’t obtain either in a fight like this.

  70. DReager1 January 11, 2012 at 9:02 pm -      #170

    Yeah, I think that’s how the match would play out. Godzilla’s tough, but he’s no Hulk.

  71. Sauroposeidon January 11, 2012 at 9:06 pm -      #171

    Who are you responding to?

  72. DReager1 January 11, 2012 at 9:11 pm -      #172

    Just the Admin’s summary. I was recommended by a commenter on my blog to check out this site because it deals with fights like mine. So Right now I’m checking out some of the fights. Though since this match is pretty old, I’ll probably skip to the newer ones.

  73. Sauroposeidon January 11, 2012 at 9:41 pm -      #173

    The site has a lot of good matches, many I admit are blighted with my barely passable, typo-ridden drivel.. but they’re still good matches. Sometimes you can get an older one to spark up now and then. I think I pretty much argued Chuck to a stand still here, but only because he doesn’t care about the match NEARLY as much as I do. Have fun!

  74. Chuck inglish January 11, 2012 at 10:20 pm -      #174

    Hulk wins this handsdown first of all he asorbs radiation and he’s far stronger than godzilla

  75. Sauroposeidon January 12, 2012 at 12:06 am -      #175

    Wrong Chuck. Quit trolling you fucktard. You either didn’t read the thread or haven’t seen Godzilla Final Wars.

  76. lancer_AR January 12, 2012 at 12:23 am -      #176

    doesn’t godzilla escape black holes and a whole bunch of other crazy stuff

  77. Chuck inglish January 12, 2012 at 12:59 am -      #177

    “Wrong Chuck. Quit trolling you fucktard. You either didn’t read the thread or haven’t seen Godzilla Final Wars.”
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    Well since you’re being generous and i don’t hve school in the morning i nguess i got some time to kill owning your ass
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    media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/47254/1656701-1499393_skaar3_super_super.jpg hulk tanking a “trillion ton attack”
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    i862.photobucket.com/albums/ab183/hulknas/planetsplit-1.jpg Hulk holding two tectonic plates together
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    the hulk leaped after (wow!after !)the missile and his gaining !!!!!! what the speed of nuclear missile ? probably the hulk biggest leap of all time…….leaping in space In a single jump,and survive……survive nuclear explosion……speed+durability+strenght+healing
    www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6602885
    www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6602921
    www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6602928
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    www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6379762 withstanding gladator’s heat beams which burn hotter than a star
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    so yeah in other words hulk rips godzilla apart with his barehands

  78. Laharl January 12, 2012 at 1:11 am -      #178

    I say godzilla takes a FTL foot to hulk’s ass.
    Comic godzilla can rip him apart.

  79. Chuck inglish January 12, 2012 at 12:09 pm -      #179

    “Comic godzilla can rip him apart.”
    ====
    the same Godzilla that got his ass handed to him by Charles Barkley? 4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gd8NBIma-zo/THF0kR4n0yI/AAAAAAAAOlQ/FiggtEs2q4Q/s1600/charlesbarkleyvsgodzilla.jpg Child please

  80. Chuck inglish January 15, 2012 at 1:11 pm -      #180

    lol even herc kicks Godzilla’s ass media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/25493/646618-herc_godzilla2_super.jpg and hulk has proven that he’s stronger than herc

  81. Sauroposeidon January 15, 2012 at 2:05 pm -      #181

    Uh.. Herc lifts an entire planet. Marvel Godzilla doesn’t weigh nearly as much as the movie ones (which don’t even approach the weight of a planet).. Why would Hercules not be able to lift Godzilla? Have you fucking read the comics or are you just trolling? Because you’d know the Champions of LA got humiliated. They were completely uncoordinated. Godzilla was just passing through pretty much. They failed to stop him. Herc DID NOT win, and that was about the only thing he did in the whole match. He never intended to be under Godzilla’s foot, and Godzilla never intended to step on him. It was a snap decision to save Angel who crashed infront of Godzilla. It’s been some years but I don’t think Godzilla even was fighting or realized he was in a fight. The most they managed to do in that issue was Ice Man completely freezing over Godzilla.. who instantly just shattered the ice and kept walking. The only person to beat Godzilla in the Marvel universe is Mrs.Fantastic because she suffocated him to make him pass out. Using the one clip out of context because you haven’t read the comic is underhanded.

    Now back to movie Godzilla.. Godzilla tanks megaton level attacks with out tiring. He tanked a black hole, and this wasn’t like Hulk’s PIS bit with the black hole. Hulk will not be able to rip Godzilla apart. Not by the time the match ends anyways. When Godzilla murders everyone Hulk cares or loves for, sure, then Hulk MIGHT be strong enough. The fight would have to progress for a little while before he’d be able to do much of anything against a character with INFINITE energy. You’re not paying attention, dude. It doesn’t matter what feats you show. Ever. He requires special circumstances to reach certain levels, and even then the best he can do is simply match Godzilla, not defeat him… assuming Godzilla doesn’t just absorb his radiation. You can argue all you want but the best you can possibly ever say is “infinity matches infinity” and pray that I eventually say “Ok, the sole weakness that Hulk has should be totally ignored so he doesn’t lose this match because we should TOTALLY give him special rules that no one else like Optimus gets.” Do you want to go down that path? Are we going to start giving special rules to characters because their weaknesses make them lose a match?

    Hulk LOSES, for the same reason he lost to Super Man. One titanic blast of insane power to knock Hulk unconscious, or a single over powering smack of any limb really to send him in to ring-out. He will never get strong enough, fast enough, in this match to be able to do anything against Godzilla. A Godzilla, mind you, that could eat the Marvel-verse one for breakfast… that version even the Avengers, Fantastic 4, and SHIELD all at the same time couldn’t stop once he actually decided he was going to fight them. That Godzilla had to be asked nicely to stop, that’s what saved the comic-verse heroes. He was ASKED to stop. He wasn’t defeated, he politely ceased, it was his decision to spare the heroes.

    Also, how hot does the Human Torch get? What’s his limit for heat he can tank?

  82. Sauroposeidon January 15, 2012 at 2:10 pm -      #182

    Also, I like how you pulled an image from a comicvine thread where Godzilla defeated Hulk.. Classy there, Chuck.

  83. Chuck inglish January 21, 2012 at 11:52 pm -      #183

    @post 181
    I’ll read half of that now and i’ll read the rest tomorrow.

  84. Hermit January 22, 2012 at 12:02 am -      #184

    Prime would be wise to stay out of the way.

    Like run very, very fast in the other direction while the others are beating the living daylights out of each other.

    This leaves Prime the winner by outliving them all…

    Then again with his ‘hero’ attitude, he’ll be dead five minutes after the fight begins.

  85. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 12:09 am -      #185

    “Prime would be wise to stay out of the way.”

    There was that allfinity prime but we’re like never allowed to use that one.. He’d win if we were allowed to use him.

  86. Hermit January 22, 2012 at 12:23 am -      #186

    @ Sauro
    How about Cybertron Prime?

  87. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 12:33 am -      #187

    I’ve only watched G1, Beast Wars, Animated and Prime. I stopped with Armada and started back up with Animated because they had the Dinobots.

  88. Hermit January 22, 2012 at 12:47 am -      #188

    Well, Cybertron Prime could prove to be a serious contender in this fight. He should pack enough firepower, when merged with his trailer…to last at least thirty minutes before he realizes he is outgunned and runs away.

  89. Soulerous January 22, 2012 at 12:51 am -      #189

    Even if Optimus lets all the others tear each other apart, he’s going to be left with Hulk. That’s a fight he just can’t win.

  90. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 12:54 am -      #190

    @ Hermit
    Do you have clips, perchance?
    @ Soulerous
    If Optimus Prime waited it out he’d be left with only Godzilla.

  91. Hac148 January 22, 2012 at 12:56 am -      #191

    comes down to the 2 nuclear beasts of hulk and godzilla. in big group matches like this, its usually best to narrow it down to the main 2 left standing then try to take the whole group in one swing.

  92. Envoy January 22, 2012 at 12:58 am -      #192

    “Also, how hot does the Human Torch get? What’s his limit for heat he can tank?”
    +
    Anything hotter than himself can hurt him, which is anything above supernova temperatures.

  93. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 12:58 am -      #193

    @Hac
    I’ve already gone over why Hulk loses.

  94. Hac148 January 22, 2012 at 12:59 am -      #194

    @sauro
    damn…….must have missed it…..
    mind if i get a quick summary?

  95. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 12:59 am -      #195

    “Anything hotter than himself can hurt him, which is anything above supernova temperatures.”

    The weakest possible version of Godzilla is capable of producing hotter than super nova fire, then.

  96. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 1:11 am -      #196

    @ Hac
    Hulk can’t get strong enough fast enough to be able to even be the slightest bit of a threat to Godzilla, who puts out Super Nova+ heat fire (The Marvel version took out the Human Torch with a single blast of his fire) that can knock around six digits worth of tons even after extended periods of fighting.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyvLdERXNH0

    Ebirah weighs 50,000 tons, Hedorah weighs 70,000 tons. Then there’s that 200 meter tall sky scraper. Godzilla was fighting for an unknown period of time and is presumed to have defeated Earth’s Defenses before Gotengo locked him in ice. He remained in suspended animation until he was freed via being hit with a missile barrage. He immediately killed Gigan, and followed the new Gotengo from Antarctica to Japan in the span of a day. In that time frame he fought the American Godzilla, Kamakuras, Kumonga (threw her over the visible horizon), Anguiras, Rodan, King Ceasar, and now Ebirah and Hedorah for an undetermined amount of time before blasting them out of the ocean. The fight ended around a minute later off screen when he finished them off (heard over the monitor the villain was watching). This is a battle worn Godzilla we’re witnessing, before he was boosted by Ozaki to have “infinite” power and he’s still powerful enough to ring out or knock out Hulk.

  97. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 1:14 am -      #197

    www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=rQxK4ffn2G0

    The Kumonga feat. She weighs in at 30,000 tons.

  98. Sauroposeidon January 22, 2012 at 1:30 am -      #198

    Oh yeah. This.

    www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/scans3/GZILLA23_vsHeroes.JPG

    Stopped them in their tracks. Godzilla took Thor’s full force Mjollnir blow in that series and just got pissed the fuck off.

  99. Hermit January 22, 2012 at 1:57 am -      #199

    You know, Supes’ beaten Hulk, Godzilla’s beaten Hulk, so if Superman and Godzilla were to meet….

  100. Hermit January 22, 2012 at 2:10 am -      #200

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