So here we have a fun match which would give the Chief a ton of trouble. Sure, he could chuck some plasmas toward T-1000, but that’s only gonna slow him down for a ‘lil bit.
Even with a Spartan Laser, that won’t help much either. The only reason I give a slight edge to Mc is that eventually he should be able to determine what it would take to win, and then pull off that strategy.
What say you?
This would be Only one of the two Terminators I would say that can beat the chief.
The other one would be the Lady termie from terminator 3.
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SHOOP DA WOOP!!!!!!!
No, I’ll refrain myself just this once, But afterwards…….
SHOOP DA-AMMIT!
Unless the battle takes place in a plot-convenient metal-smelting plant; I’ll give this to the T2 antagonist.
Liquid metal terminator. He would kill the chief before he could think of how to kill him (vat of hot steel).
liquid terminator!! Seriously, bullets, beams, stabbings and even complete explosions can’t kill him, thats all of Master Chief’s abilities FAILING.
master chiefs only hope would being the protanginst of the movie,and waiting for a plot device to save him.
so yea he lost.
ummm master chief because the liq. metal terminator was defective. in the directors cut i downloaded, i mean bought at a store leagualy, shows that the liq. terminator kepted morphing to every thing it touched so it would say touch a railing and its whole are would turn into part of railing and get stuck.
Wrong, that only occurred after the T-1000 was exposed to the liquid nitrogen, that caused a minor defect in its nanobot programming.
Get your facts right.
hitman8….come on. the chief would not win. period. no offense, youre entitled to your opinion, but its really annoying when people say MC wins against opponents that would totally waste him.
Um, No He can turn into anything he touches if he wants.
Hitman, seriously! Look at this logically, The liquid metal Terminator could kill sergeant Johnson and take form of him. While chief is talking to Johnson, Terminator would punch through his flesh and armor. Do you even know how strong a terminator is?
Ok, first and foremost to Zach. Master Chief is faster and stronger than any level of humanoid terminator shown so far in the series. Also Master Chief could beat the original terminator and the semi solid female terminator, however the fully liquid terminator would be too hard to defeat, not because its faster or stronger, but because Master Chief does not have the weapons necessary to eliminate it at his direct disposal. In conclusion this battle would take a very long time, but eventually Master Chief will get tired, the terminator on the other hand, never will.
Would Plasma Grenades have any effect?
Slight though my knowledge of Plasma based tech is, I’m pretty sure its Superheated…something.
Seeing as T1000 was killed by melted lead, is it safe to presume plasma tech would do some fair damage?
I’m not voting on either yet, merel throwing out a few points to conside.
And I figure someone has to give none fanboy answers for why Cheif would stand a fair chance. Otherwise its just halo bashing gaore.
It was actually molten steel that killed the T-1000 (About 1183 degrees of difference), but either way I digress.
A burst from a Plasma grenade is far too quick to permanently incapacitate the T-1000, whom despite suffering initial concussion damage, would quickly reform and repossess his initial humanoid status. Let us not forget that it took a combination of an extended exposure to a high heat, high pressure and the high viscosity of molten steel to destroy the Terminator; which would require a plot specific environment suitably equipped for such a scenario.
okmaster chief and no it wasn’t the liquid nitrogen it was because it was a prototype and was defective. it was a type 1000 series proto type and couldn’t master chief get two plasma sword and just keep sliceing the liq terminator. even if the terminator would in some magical way hit master chief it wouldn’t even break his shield. he could keep hiting the terminator and while it is reforming captur it in a cup or some thing. or through down a bubble shield and a powerdrainer and trap him in the bubble shield and through 1 plasma gernad and desinagrate him. SIMPLE
Most likely, but the issue of sustainability is one again relevant. After all, the blade shatters and becomes inert after only a brief period of time, in which the far more resistant carapace of the T-1000 would quite possibly rapidly drain the remaining energy of the blade and cause it to shatter faster than in instances involving organic targets.
im sorry but THE Terminator is just to playful with its pray mc would get a plan
um…….helo. Plasma weapons are thousands of degrees hot, and i bet a laser is pretty hot also. MC would melt T-1000 straight away…….der!
“um…….helo. Plasma weapons are thousands of degrees hot, and i bet a laser is pretty hot also. MC would melt T-1000 straight away…….der!”
If they had a human sized blast radius, yes, but they have not. Therefor, the slightly annoyed T-1000 would simply regenerate and continue it’s efforts. And what weapons does the Master Chief get for this match? He cannot just pull anything out of his arse. Two weapons tops, most probably UNSC standard issue I’d say.
T-1000 hands down, i don’t even want to explain.
Jesus Christ, here we go again, a new batch of stupidity:
1) The T-1000 was a Skynet prototype, but the visible flaws and glitches did not begin to appear (Difficulty adapting to surrounding metallic environments) until after the exposure to liquid nitrogen that harmlessly altered his programming to a degree that he could still efficiently fight.
“He examined his arm in shock as he froze completely and ceased all movement. The T-800 then shot him, shattering his body into a hundred tiny pieces that scattered across the floor. This might have been the end for the T-1000, were it not for an overturned vat of molten steel, the heat of which restored the pieces to their liquid form. Each droplet started to merge with others, quickly forming a large puddle, from which he started to solidify.
Once he was fully reformed, the T-1000 resumed his hunt for the Connors, but started to suffer glitches, resulting in his feet and hands taking the form of whatever they touched. He was hardly concerned, however, and quickly caught up with them, resulting in another direct confrontation with the T-800. He surprised the older model and displayed his superior adaptability in combat and trapped the T-800, crushing its left arm.” – Excerpt from “Terminator 2 Diary – Back in full detail”
2) The T-1000 is far from playful, in fact in both appearances (Sans infiltrating human groups) is remarkably efficient, more so than the T-800 in all cases. The T-1000 was intended to be a sleek and lethal infiltration unit capable of heavy duress and intense combat when necessary.
3) Plasma is hot, but it dissipates far too quickly (The residual heat is absorbed faster than chemically ignited explosives) to even presently cripple the T-1000, or prevent him from reforming under duress. Unless Master Chief can somehow place him within a source of high density super-heated material; far too viscous for the T-1000 to escape (A giant vat of Molten steel), then he is not going to stop his opponent.
You must have to be the most stupid person on the Pimple of the Earths face. EVER.
i think the t-1000 wud win just simply coz it wud morph into a marine or sumthing which would confuse mc then stab him…and the way he died in the movie was coz he fell in all of that liquid steel. and hu carries that much melted steel into battle
i jus like seeing idiots say mc can win against ppl like this when mc can be beat down with a D@MN pistol.
I ment the Sharagran guy…
Ok, “Just A Gamer” I will not flame you, but I want to say that the liquid metal terminator has been shot by a shot gun at least 20 times in the 2nd movie and all he did was regenerate. Terminator could also catch up with a car as shown in the scene in Terminator 2 where they are running from Liquid Metal terminator. He could also throw the first terminator through concrete. Terminator wins.
A burst from a Plasma grenade is far too quick to permanently incapacitate the T-1000, whom despite suffering initial concussion damage, would quickly reform and repossess his initial humanoid status
maybe a plasma cannon being fired continusley into him might distact the liquid terminator enough until he finds molten steel assuming this fight is happening on earth
just a thought
Quick!! To the nearest plot convienent Steel Mill!!! … yeah no.
T-1000 has this. John has no weapons that produce enough heat over enough time to destroy it, and the T-1000 has enough punch behind its knife blades to puncture John’s shields and armor (although it may take a few hits). Eventually the T-1000 would win do to enduring all that John can throw at him then finish him off.
Plot devices are the only hope for John here as I see it.
I didn’t say it would kill him but a normal shotgun blew a a large hole that in him and made him back up so plasma weaponry would have an even more devastating affect. I know it won’t kill him but blow a large enough hole to make the liquid teminator take a minute to heal so chief can run looking molten steel.
This is on earth so I imagine he would find molten steel eventually.
sangheli_special_ops_elite, that wasn’t a shotgun , that was an old, old grenade launcher. The shotgun did little to him.
MC could probably do quite a bit of damage by pinning the LMT down and blasting him for several seconds straight with twin plasma rifles, but that probably wouldn’t be sufficient to take him down for good. I don’t see MC as finding a high supply of liquid nitrogen or a steel mill in time to defeat the LMT, even if he was able to figure out its weakness before he was terminated.
LMT for sure!!!!
My scenario. MC is stalking some poor covenant bastard when out of nowhere the T-1000 stabs a hole in the wall an inch from MC’s head. MC rolls out of the way and unloads an AR clip into T-1000. After T-1000 regenerates MC throws together a stream of curses and complains about “a whole clip usually works on Elites and Brutes.” etc. Cheif runs off and T-1000 chases. By now i think we have safely established that T-1000 is in his police guise, so he fires off a few rounds at MC, rounds that glance off Chief’s shield. Chief ducks into cover and waits until T-1000 is close enough. Chief jumps out and attempts to melee T-1000’s skull in. T-1000 catches Cheif’s AR, and a suprised MC loses his grip. T-1000 throws AR away. As MC tries to bring up his pistol, T-1000 slaps it out of his hand. MC breaks through T-1000’s arm, which quickly regenerates. They get into a massively epic inter dimensional fist fight, which like in all Hollywood, reaches a standstill. At this point Chuck Norris shows up, bashes their skulls together and instantly kills both of them. Chuck then proceeds to teabag MC and drink the liquefied remains of T-1000
“At this point Chuck Norris shows up, bashes their skulls together and instantly kills both of them. Chuck then proceeds to teabag MC and drink the liquefied remains of T-1000″ You actually made me laugh XD
T1000 for the win. I would go into why, but if you’ve read the other posts you’d understand. Nothing MC has would stop the T1000.
I have only one very important question: Does the T-1000 replenish damaged or destroyed nanites?
It matters.
I say that because if he does not then Master Chief can eventually take him down regardless of lacking the needed constant heat.
If he CAN then Master Chief stands absolutely no chance.
T-1000 can not be taken down by any of MC’s weapons. He regenerates.
My question still stands. I can’t find information on it one way or another.
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I thought that was how it regenerated since it seems to fill multiple holes blasted in to its head & chest. If not that then how else would t-1000 be able to repair itself?
It moved mass around. Until the end of the movie nothing was really high powered. We don’t know how many–if any–of the nanites had been adequately damaged by the stuff they threw at it.
Some of the high explosive attacks and plasma attacks could damage/destroy nanites. Not melt him down to nothing as molten metal does. But if it can NOT replace missing nanites then it will eventually fall. If it can then MC is dead.
Why do’t we just look it up?
I did. Couldn’t find anything.
Ok.But still, even if he can’t regenerate, the T2 has an advantage. He can take a lot of shots and heal. He even lost part of him in the scene where he is attached to the car, and it regenerated. Let’s not forget that he can take any form he wants, including the ground, as seen in Predator 2.
You mean Terminator 2*
Yeah,he can heal from standard kinetic weapons. Minimal–if any damage– is done to individual nanite ‘cells’ when he’s hit by standard bullets. Not enough to cause any real problems.
The problem here though is that the entire fight hinges on a single thing that I still can’t find any information on. If the T1000 does replenish lost nanites then it’s exactly as L-W says: his weapons wouldn’t be able to smelt the terminator quick enough and he’d likely be incapable of carrying enough ammo.
If the T100 does NOT regenerate lost ‘cells’ and MC gets the weapons mentioned above (I’m not sure if they’re included or just added for story purposes) then he can win.
Yeah and he can take the form of anything including the floor or ground, making it harder for the Chief.
T-1000 can transform into ANYTHING w/out moving parts… And use practically all weapons. On top of that he is more or less indestructible save from volcanoes/molten steel and liquid nitrogen. Yet another example of BankGambling’s anti-MC bias;)
“If the T100 does NOT regenerate lost ‘cells’ and MC gets the weapons mentioned above (I’m not sure if they’re included or just added for story purposes) then he can win.”
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To my knowledge I do believe the nanites reproduce to make up for damaged units. Hence why the T-X, a designated Rogue Terminator Hunter, was given the Phased Plasma Cannon to deal specifically with the T-1000. The only way to stop is to eliminate it quickly down to the whole or stop the units ability to procreate new nanites. That’s what the Plasma Cannon was for since it eliminates the unit via intense heat and EMP. 1 or 2 shots is all she wrote for a T-1000. The reason why the T-850, Arnold’s character, wasn’t instantly destroyed by the plasma cannon was because the chasis of a T-850, different model from stock T-800, has a chassis coated to withstand plasma weapons since at the point the Resistance has acquired and standardized plasma weapons. That gave it the tolerance to take 1 of those hits.
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Now the Chief unfortunately doesn’t possess weapons that hit anywhere near as hard as the Phased Plasma Cannon found on the T-X. Plus there is the fact that the T-1000 can disguise itself into anything it wants including the floor and ceiling effectively sliding across the floor towards the Chief to ambush him and once he has him its over cause MC is nowhere near as strong as a T-800 let alone a T-1000.
Quick everyone!, to the nearest plot convenient steel mill!!!!
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Yeah T-1000 has this easy. None of MC’s plasma weapons produce enough heat to keep it down for long enough to kill it, coupled with T-1000’s shapeshifting and nanite-induced regeneration that he can morph into blades to peirce MC’s armor with ease (although it’ll take a bit given MC’s shields, but once thats done the armor should be easy as T-800s can rip titanium apart like tin-foil) and with plot devices (steel mills) out of debates, yeah MC gets owned here