Warden Eternal Vs Ultron

Warden Eternal Vs Ultron

Suggested by Lethal_Gecko

The Warden Eternal from Halo 5 will go up against MCU Ultron.

Battle takes place on current day Earth. No leaving the planet but the Warden has access to the domain. Depending on outcomes, different versions of Ultron can be used in ascending order of power. The victor is whoever eliminates the other entirely, or other forms of submission are viable, like working together.

Who will win?

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53 Comments on "Warden Eternal Vs Ultron"

  1. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets December 18, 2015 at 12:11 am -      #1

    Ultron, the guy place on a much higher cosmic scale, even in the MCU. Even Hulk and Thor didn’t do much to his armor.

  2. erickyboo December 18, 2015 at 2:52 am -      #2

    So it’s one Warden Eternal versus one Ultron?

  3. lethal_gecko December 18, 2015 at 4:21 am -      #3

    Oh no, it’s every Warden Eternal VS every Ultron of the current incarnation being debated starting with MCU and they have the entire modern Earth as their playground. They both have the potential to have millions of bodies at once. I can go looking for stats for the Warden if any of you are unfamiliar but he has a very similar ‘unable to die ’cause i just come back in a new body’ kinda tactic.
    [#]
    The Warden can call upon Prometheans from the Domain but no vehicles above a Phaeton as Forerunner ships are a big no in this fight.
    (Oh and absolutely no slating Halo 5, this is a VS debate not a place to give your opinion on the game, or Age of Ultron for that matter).

  4. lethal_gecko December 18, 2015 at 4:34 am -      #4

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=98U8HdDTgxI
    Warning: spoilers.
    Anyway I’ll go digging for more info later.

  5. LadyRamkin December 18, 2015 at 5:43 am -      #5

    “Oh and absolutely no slating Halo 5”

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    HALO 5 IS THE WORST GAME EVER MADE. IT’S BAD AND IF YOU LIKE IT YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD.

    Discuss.

  6. Rookie December 18, 2015 at 5:45 am -      #6

    @LadyRamkin

    “HALO 5 IS THE WORST GAME EVER MADE. IT’S BAD AND IF YOU LIKE IT YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD.”

    I agree. Why can’t it be more like Planescape Torment. What does dev even thinking about themself!

  7. lethal_gecko December 18, 2015 at 6:00 am -      #7

    I hope this is a troll.

  8. LadyRamkin December 18, 2015 at 6:15 am -      #8

    “I hope this is a troll.”

    Okay okay, third worst game ever made, being only slightly better than Bubsy 3d and metroid other M

  9. lethal_gecko December 18, 2015 at 6:25 am -      #9

    I’m just going to ignore you if you’re not here for the debate. Anyone got anything relevant to say?

  10. LadyRamkin December 18, 2015 at 6:33 am -      #10

    i am here to debate, whether or not halo 5 is any good is a debate to be had. im just not willing to debate this match specifically
    – – –
    “Okay okay, third worst game ever made, being only slightly better than Bubsy 3d and metroid other M”

    Actually considering the lack of splitscreen i think bubsy 3d is actually better than halo 5. So second worst game of all time

  11. Ninja Lowk December 18, 2015 at 8:47 am -      #11

    Wasn’t Ultrons body made of vibranium in the movies and adamantium in the comics. that’s a pretty good defense he has going for him.

  12. LadyRamkin December 18, 2015 at 8:49 am -      #12

    “Wasn’t Ultrons body made of vibranium in the movies ”

    I believe that ultron stole a lot of vibranium and made vision out of it, but i dont think he was made of it at any point.

  13. lethal_gecko December 18, 2015 at 9:38 am -      #13

    Yeah I think so. In terms of durability, Ultron Prime MCU took physical damage from cap’s shield, Iron Man’s repulsors and the Hulk (of course). He took a massive beating from all of them at once though but remained intact.
    [#]
    To put into perspective, the Warden (in campaign mechanics terms) can survive about 4-5 incineration cannon blasts per body. Each incineration cannon blast can one shot Scorpion tanks if hit correctly. Direct shotgun shells to the face make him flinch.
    [#]
    As for his damage output, while he is shown to move slower than MCU Ultron, he’s fast enough to outpace the Master Chief and almost every weapon he has can one hit kill a Spartan, like his sword. His energy blast has an EMP effect and he can generate black hole bombs (from what i can tell).
    [#]
    I think pound for pound, one Warden would beat one MCU Ultron Prime, however that’s in direct confrontation, how could Ultron use his environment and his intelligence to beat the Warden in this round?
    [#]
    One thing Ultron has is that gravity manipulation where he rips the road up which could equal the Warden’s constraint fields. Also, unlike the Didact, the Warden does not have adaptive armor meaning that he can’t become immune to damage from the same weapons. Also, he looks to be around 14 feet tall.
    [#]
    Oh and Ultron can fly of course which the Warden can’t, the Warden can teleport though but it’s not instant.
    [#]
    Please debate Halo 5 elsewhere.

  14. LadyRamkin December 18, 2015 at 10:27 am -      #14

    “Please debate Halo 5 elsewhere.”

    See, the problem with halo 5, is that it is just a bad game, made for stupid people, and only really enjoyed by retards. It is example after example of poor game design lack luster mechanics and money grubbing business practices.

    The warden guy loses because Marvel is better than halo, in literally every way.

    I mean, halo 5 strips itself of all of its really core mechanics, so it can pretty itself up for all the fan boys while they wank on it.

    Mario 64 looks way better than halo 5. Which is just a testament to how terrible it AND the Xbone are.

  15. lethal_gecko December 18, 2015 at 10:29 am -      #15

    Yeah you’re trolling, please move along. Look at the debate guidelines/rules please.

  16. LadyRamkin December 18, 2015 at 10:35 am -      #16

    Please point to where it says in the debate guidelines that i have to pretend that halo 5 is good for the purposes of debate???

    It is terrible, therefore the warden is terrible therefore ultron wins.

    Ultron is so OP he could beat composite superman before the whiney alien bitch can even blink

    Ultron is so smart he could out think god.

    YEAH, SUCK IT HALO.

  17. lethal_gecko December 18, 2015 at 11:18 am -      #17

    Whether or not Halo 5 is good or not is subject to personal opinion and is completely irrelevant to the debate of Warden Eternal vs MCU Ultron. Also, it states no bias.
    [#]
    None of your statemnts are rational in the slightest with nothing to back it up other than opinion which means nothing to a factual debate. Try again please but with a legitimate argument that is relevant to the debate at hand.
    [#]
    Remember it’s MCU Ultron, who got beaten by MCU Avengers. Now if you’re just going to troll I’m just not going to respond to you.

  18. LadyRamkin December 18, 2015 at 11:34 am -      #18

    Yeah, imma stop now…. im just really bored….. There have been no fun matches lately…. other than pointing out to mea that his interpretation of Link is just as valid as everyone else’s, i have had nothing to do.

    But before i go, ultron definitely did not have a vibranium body in the MCU

  19. Mea quidem sententia December 18, 2015 at 12:52 pm -      #19

    Mine was still more probable, LadyRamkin, but really, stop with bitching about Halo 5. You hate it. We get it. No one cares. Move on, or someone might contact the admin about your behaviour.

  20. LadyRamkin December 18, 2015 at 12:58 pm -      #20

    “Mine was still more probable”

    Yeah, keep telling yourself that, it might be true one day.
    – – –
    “stop with bitching about Halo 5”

    Seriously? can you not read? I already said i would stop
    – – –
    “You hate it.”

    That isnt actually true. i have never played it. I have no opinion either way.
    – – –
    “No one cares.”

    Prove that
    – – –
    “Move on”

    Make me?
    – – –
    “or someone might contact the admin about your behaviour.”

    I have literally already moved on. i said as such in #18, YOU are the one currently bringing it up. Probably because you are still sore that your Link head canon isnt actual canon.

  21. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets December 18, 2015 at 1:52 pm -      #21

    “i dont think he was made of it at any point.”

    His last main body was, all the others weren’t.
    =
    If it’s every Warden and the Prometheans vs Ultron then Warden wins quite handily. Warden just has more toys to play with while most of Ultron’s bodies were being taken down by normal humans(Hawkeye and Black Widow)and even one of his main bodies were struggling with Cap.

  22. LadyRamkin December 18, 2015 at 1:55 pm -      #22

    “His last main body was, all the others weren’t.”

    Are you sure???? Im sure that he used it to construct vision which was supposed to be his next body. But the jarvis took it.

    It doesnt make sense he would make a vibranium body and then ditch it.

  23. Shadow-Knight December 18, 2015 at 2:02 pm -      #23

    MCU Ultron also was inside the internet….like all of it. Only thing that kept him from gaining nuke codes was Jarvis……who isn’t hear meaning that its plausible Ultron could go all skynet on the Warden. Taking over military drones, remote guided missiles, icbms………honesty Ultron on modern earth would become a godlike machine with full control of anythingthat gets wifi.

  24. Mea quidem sententia December 18, 2015 at 2:03 pm -      #24

    @LadyPumpkin
    Still fussing, I see.

  25. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets December 18, 2015 at 2:16 pm -      #25

    “Are you sure???? Im sure that he used it to construct vision which was supposed to be his next body. But the jarvis took it.”

    Pretty sure. He used most of it to make the giant metal tube and then made whatever was left to make his last main body.
    =
    “It doesnt make sense he would make a vibranium body and then ditch it.”

    He didn’t ditch any vibranium body. Avengers took Vision and the last one got destroyed.

  26. lethal_gecko December 18, 2015 at 2:20 pm -      #26

    Now the question is: Who can hack better? And yes Ramkin said they’d stop.
    [#]
    After MCU we’ll move onto the next incarnation up from him in power. I don’t know it very well so somebody give me a good next incarnation.
    [#]
    Also, is it possible for them to work together? Or is Ultron too up himself?

  27. Ninja Lowk December 18, 2015 at 2:32 pm -      #27

    Gives a list of ultron’s different body from 1 to his comic age of ultron form
    www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/2xvj89/respect_ultron/

  28. pimpmage December 18, 2015 at 2:35 pm -      #28

    Mea. .. you are trying to get Admin to talk to Ramkin about his behavior? Get the fuck out. I do worse on a daily basis and you just ignore it. Maybe you should stop being pissy along with gecko. There is no rule that forces you to respond to or even read posts you don’t want to.

  29. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets December 18, 2015 at 2:36 pm -      #29

    “Taking over military drones, remote guided missiles, icbms………”

    That’s true, but Warden would probably still have a much higher amount of bodies. And while Ultron’s vibranium body would be better than any of Warden’s numbers, Warden overall is going to have much better average troops than Ultron’s will. Black Widow was able to quite casually tear apart Ultron’s drones with her bear hands. Prometheans are going to do even better.

    Unless he nukes everything, but would he even survive that?
    =
    “Who can hack better?”

    Did Warden even have any hacking feats in Halo 5? I can’t say I remember any.
    =
    “After MCU we’ll move onto the next incarnation up from him in power. I don’t know it very well so somebody give me a good next incarnation.”

    Probably some cartoon version out there that’s not too powerful. Once you actually step into the comic portion of Ultron it’s not pretty for Warden.
    =
    “Also, is it possible for them to work together? Or is Ultron too up himself?”

    To do what? And why would they?

  30. lethal_gecko December 18, 2015 at 2:54 pm -      #30

    @pimp why have you just started taking shots at me? What have I done? Other than stop some minor trolling. Anyway he’s said he’d stop so that’s that.
    [#]
    As for hacking, while there’s no feats to speak of, the Warden does control the galaxy spanning network of the Domain and claims to be able to purge Cortana from said network if he didn’t like what she was doing.

  31. pimpmage December 18, 2015 at 2:58 pm -      #31

    Oh shut your face. I don’t want to hear your dribble. I chose to read and respond, as you did.

  32. lethal_gecko December 18, 2015 at 3:07 pm -      #32

    wat….

    [#]
    And I’m the OP so I’m kind of required to respond to this post.

  33. LadyRamkin December 18, 2015 at 3:11 pm -      #33

    @Mea quim sententia
    So actually trying to contribute is fussing?? You know you just sound like a whiny bitch??
    – – –
    @CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets
    “Using the Mind Stone powers, they forced the geneticist Helen Cho to create the perfect, synthetic, humanoid body for Ultron using the Vibranium.”

    That is from the wiki, which i know isnt the best source but i dont have time to watch the film right now.

  34. pimpmage December 18, 2015 at 3:12 pm -      #34

    Your ‘holier than thou’ attitude is irritating. Discussion can happen on any topic on any post and its fine. Just ignore off topic stuff that doesn’t apply to you. And as for this being your match and you are forced to respond to posts, I call bullshit. Scrambling for excuses to be a jerk to people is extremely petty.

  35. lethal_gecko December 18, 2015 at 3:12 pm -      #35

    Yeah I remember him having a vibranium body, I think.
    [#]
    And I’m sorry, but I feel like I’ve missed half an argument here. I’m not being a jerk, i asked Ramkin to stop and gave my reason, he said yes, end of. No one got hurt or offended as far as I’m concerned. I feel like you’re attacking me for no reason. You came out of nowhere and started on me.

  36. pimpmage December 18, 2015 at 3:19 pm -      #36

    Telling people to stop is not ok. You got mea in on your bs too. Just ignore it and move on.

  37. lethal_gecko December 18, 2015 at 3:24 pm -      #37

    I said to debate Halo 5 elsewhere. It’s perfectly ok, there’s nothing wrong with it as it was a request. If i forced him to do so that would be different.
    [#]
    And yeah, I will ignore the irrelevance, thanks. Nothing I’ve said is unreasonable as I’m just trying to keep things clear for the topic debate.

  38. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets December 18, 2015 at 3:39 pm -      #38

    ““Using the Mind Stone powers, they forced the geneticist Helen Cho to create the perfect, synthetic, humanoid body for Ultron using the Vibranium.”

    Right, but that body got stolen. He didn’t just “ditch” it. It got taken from him, it’d be like saying someone broke into your house took your computer and someone asked you why you ditched your computer.

    Also, I’m not disagreeing that Vision was made out of vibranium, I’m just saying so was Ultron’s final form.

    Also from the wiki:

    “His final vibranium body granted him immense superhuman strength, enough to overpower even the likes of Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Vision.”

    Granted, I don’t ever recall Ultron overpowering Hulk at any point in the movie(he did hold Thor back with one arm though, but he more than likely let him as he was using himself as a distraction).

    ” Ultron would later adopt a final form that was covered and reinforced with a Vibranium outer shell.”

    “This dedication to constant evolution resulted in Ultron re-designing himself several times over the course of his short “lifetime”, including an attempt to give himself a vibranium synthetic body.”

    “With his Vibranium armor effectively destroyed, Ultron made a final ditch effort to kill his enemies by hijacking the Avengers’ vacant Quinjet and firing its ammunition at civilians, singing a children’s song as he did. ”

    “With Ultron kept at bay through the combined efforts of Vision, Iron Man, and Thor, Ultron’s vibranium armor began to melt and peel away, leaving him greatly weakened and nearly defenceless.”

    “Having arrived at the Sokovian church, Iron Man confronted Ultron in his new Vibranium form”

    “With his plans of creating a perfect form being thwarted, Ultron decided on a compromise in which he used parts of the remaining vibranium to create a more durable robotic body while using the rest of the vibranium to strengthen the core structure of his device.”

    “Ultron’s primary form is officially dubbed as “Ultron Prime” while his vibranium form is officially dubbed as “Ultimate Ultron”

  39. lethal_gecko December 18, 2015 at 3:56 pm -      #39

    Ok thanks for the information. As for the Warden, he’s made out of the unknown Forerunner alloy.
    [#]
    How do you reckon Ultron’s body will stand up to the Warden’s sword, bearing in mind that it can kill Spartans instantly. Also his energy beams are the ionizing particles that disintegrate people, how would that effect vibranium?

  40. Mea quidem sententia December 18, 2015 at 5:49 pm -      #40

    @pimpmage
    That’s because you’re not mentioning me about something I forgot about. I’m not pissy, though. I never was. I’ll take the high road next time, though.

  41. Mea quidem sententia December 18, 2015 at 6:03 pm -      #41

    Oh, I missed LadyRamkin’s last post. I’ll move on.

  42. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets December 18, 2015 at 10:19 pm -      #42

    “How do you reckon Ultron’s body will stand up to the Warden’s sword, bearing in mind that it can kill Spartans instantly. ”

    Pretty well. It took Thor, Vision, and Iron Man to even put a dent in it. Vision doesn’t really have too many feats of destruction with it, but Thor managed to push back multiple space whales that were casually flying through sky scrapers.
    =
    “Also his energy beams are the ionizing particles that disintegrate people, how would that effect vibranium?”

    That I don’t know so much.

  43. LadyRamkin December 19, 2015 at 12:23 am -      #43

    “Right, but that body got stolen. He didn’t just “ditch” it.”

    Thats not what i am saying.
    from what i got from the film, ultron was planning to move his consciousness to the new vision body and leave the old one behind (ditch the old one).
    So it wouldn’t make sense to make a body of vibranium and then make a new less vibraniumy body. and then go inhabit that

    Now that i am typing this it does occur that he had like a million bodies and he would not have to actually ditch his old non vision body in order to inhabit it.

    he could have had his vision body AND his old one at the same time
    – – –
    “I’m just saying so was Ultron’s final form.”

    see, i didnt get this, I thought that he got the vibranium solely to make vision. And was unaware he used it for anything else

  44. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets December 19, 2015 at 1:57 am -      #44

    “from what i got from the film, ultron was planning to move his consciousness to the new vision body and leave the old one behind (ditch the old one).
    So it wouldn’t make sense to make a body of vibranium and then make a new less vibraniumy body. and then go inhabit that”

    When Ultron made Vision he didn’t already have a vibranium body, that wasn’t till after he got stolen.
    =
    “Now that i am typing this it does occur that he had like a million bodies and he would not have to actually ditch his old non vision body in order to inhabit it.

    he could have had his vision body AND his old one at the same time”

    I’m just wondering why he didn’t make an army of vibranium bodies with all of that…vibranium…he had.
    =
    “see, i didnt get this, I thought that he got the vibranium solely to make vision. And was unaware he used it for anything else”

    Glad that’s cleared up then.

  45. erickyboo December 19, 2015 at 2:11 pm -      #45

    There is discussion, and using a match to discuss some things, but a brand new match and just go on like this and say that stuff? Yeah, no. Big no no. @age

    I don’t recall Ultron having MILLIONS of bodies. Warden has a few million of them. But what’s interesting is that when you “kill” warden, you don’t blow him up or destroy him exactly, his being is pulled into slipspace. So technically, soldiers get plates blown off then their sensible bits are exposed and disintegrate, as knights when their carapace is removed, they have exposed areas, warden doesn’t get parts removed. More like an emergency slipspace jump. So that’s interesting. But yeah, Warden has constraint fields, some sort of vortex or slipspace or something black hole looking thing that can track even flying vehicles, the sort of eye beam, shockwaves that deal great damage, and his hard light sword. He’s also very tall.

    www.halopedia.org/images/f/f7/H5G-Sizechart.png
    To eliminate one warden, one should shoot at the black core at the back, or whenever the face is exposed. Otherwise he tanks damage.

    This might not count for much since its gameplay but the best way to kill on in game is to use a binary rifle multiple times at the core.

  46. lethal_gecko December 19, 2015 at 2:41 pm -      #46

    He’s much easier in campaign which is probably the best version to debate from. The warzone Warden is just…. I’d rather have to fight a T-rex with my bare hands. Literally nothing effects him, you need most of your team with heavy weapons blasting away at him, seriously, if you hit his body with a Spartan Laser it’s like 3-4% of his health gone, the same with tank rounds. He can solo both teams even if they’ve got tanks so long as they get close enough.
    [#]
    So yeah, let’s use the campaign version, unless the Warden in warzone is using something like adaptive armor that we don’t know of. It’s like trying to fight the Didact.
    I both hope for and despair at the thought of Halo 6 having an actual fight against the Didact.

  47. the_man_with The_Answers December 20, 2015 at 1:38 am -      #47

    With the totality of Ultron vs the Totality of the Warden, Ultron is going to get crushed into a tin can. Not only is the Warden drastically more numerous, each of his bodies are far above and beyond the average “Ultron body.” Only Ultron’s main form comes close to the Warden, and even then I’d still wager on the Warden. I mean, the basic robots were being taken out by MCU Black Widow, who is an otherwise “normal” human beyond seemingly enhanced H2H skills and reactions.

  48. lethal_gecko December 20, 2015 at 7:16 am -      #48

    Fair enough. Can anyone give me the next Ultron up from MCU or a version where he has a good/even chance at winning?

  49. Ninja Lowk December 20, 2015 at 10:20 am -      #49

    The comic age of ultron? his drone bodies were enough to take on she hulk.

  50. lethal_gecko December 20, 2015 at 10:39 am -      #50

    Well whatever incarnation that can equal the Warden perhaps. Also what’s the most amount of bodies any Ultron has ever had?

  51. Ninja Lowk December 20, 2015 at 12:15 pm -      #51

    Probably the annihilation Ultron that took over an entire techno-organic species
    but that one might have survived a star exploding so I think next line would probably be Age of Ultron
    i.imgur.com/YgbWseL.png

  52. erickyboo December 20, 2015 at 12:33 pm -      #52

    I was talking about the campaign version.
    I’m pretty sure the only two threats of Ultron body wise would be his two upgraded bodies. You know what? Thor should have used some of those grenades from the dark world to get rid of Ultron easily.
    Also I’m going to guess ultron’s upgraded bodies are EMP proof? Still, constraint fields.
    When in doubt, antimatter. Also Watchers can indeed repair stress sustained by Warden.

  53. lethal_gecko December 20, 2015 at 2:29 pm -      #53

    @Ninja How big are those Ultrons? Size does have a factor when it comes to close combat and i’m not sure if Ultron is equipped for cqc other than super strength.

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