Alucard Vs Spawn

Alucard Vs Spawn

Suggested by Shadow-Knight

Alucard (Hellsing) will go up against Spawn.

Scenario: The Hellsing organization gets reports of a possible vampire attacking a small town in the English country side. On arrival Alucard comes across Spawn who has already dealt with the vampire in the town, upon spotting Alucard he assumes he was working with the other one and readies himself for battle.

Equipment:

-Alucard: Alucard gets his Hellsing ARMS 13 mm Auto Anti-Freak Combat Pistol “The Jackle” & his  Hellsing ARMS .454 Casull Auto.

Round 1: Pre-Schrodinger Alucard vs normal Spawn.

Round 2: Post-Schrodinger vs God Spawn.

Who will win?

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54 Comments on "Alucard Vs Spawn"

  1. Rookie December 5, 2015 at 12:10 am -      #1

    Feats for Spawn?

  2. pimpmage December 5, 2015 at 12:24 am -      #2

    Round 2… you realise what being omnipresent means right? It means he exist in all space and time. Nothing, absolutely nothing can kill him.

  3. Friendlysociopath December 5, 2015 at 12:36 am -      #3

    Round 2… you realise what being omnipresent means right?

    Depends, is God Spawn Omnipotent or just uber-powerful? An Omnipotent can kill something that is Omnipresent.

  4. Rookie December 5, 2015 at 12:59 am -      #4

    @Friendlysociopath

    “Depends, is God Spawn Omnipotent or just uber-powerful? An Omnipotent can kill something that is Omnipresent.”

    From what I read on Comicvine god and devil in Spawn verse is not even solar system by feats, only planetary.

  5. Oh, Answerer Of The Unanswerable December 5, 2015 at 1:03 am -      #5

    Don’t know how legitimate the VS Battle Wiki is is seen around here but it has God, Satan, and an empowered Spawn being at universal level.

  6. Alpha or Omega December 5, 2015 at 1:06 am -      #6

    On the other hand, Alucard can’t do jack against God Spawn.
    He isn’t omnipotent, but is is around universe+ level.
    /
    Isn’t Alucard’s omnipresence limited to one universe, but could exist everywhere and nowhere in that universe?

  7. Mea quidem sententia December 5, 2015 at 1:58 am -      #7

    I say if you’re omni anything, it’s restricted in that universe. A CEO of Ford has no authority at a Hyundai car dealer lot.

  8. AbsoluteZero December 5, 2015 at 2:17 am -      #8

    “I say if you’re omni anything, it’s restricted in that universe.”

    That’s just.. really weird to me. Seeing as Omnipotence, Omniscience and Omnipresence are defined as being.. well. Supreme. Above all things. Saying they’re restricted in any way just means that whoever has them, doesn’t have them. Someone who actually had them, wouldn’t care which universe, multiverse, dimension or reality is involved.

    On topic, didn’t God Spawn lock God and Satan in their own reality, fighting over a ruined earth, while he just recreated everything else without them? I don’t see Alucard having a hope in hell there.

  9. Mea quidem sententia December 5, 2015 at 2:23 am -      #9

    If we define omnipotence as what it really is, then it means all power, which would mean that if I owned a store on Earth and that store had all the shoes on Earth, it doesn’t mean I have all shoes on some other Earth-like planet. Omni doesn’t literally mean what people think. I’m an omnivore, but I can’t eat everything, edible and inedible.

    A king is the ruler of his own land, not the land of another’s.

  10. Darth Bombad December 5, 2015 at 2:27 am -      #10

    Never really read much Spawn (dropped out somewhere between Houdini and Cy-Gor)
    but from my understanding god and the devil are like Marvel skyfather level.
    There are many gods on many worlds, the one that Spawn fought (and became)
    Is just the god of earth, nothing more. But again i’m by no means an expert.

  11. Numinous One December 5, 2015 at 3:04 am -      #11

    Alucard could feasibly take round 1.
    His 3million+ respawns would probably outlast Spawns neccrogoop.

    Round 2 is an unholy shitstomp.

  12. Amm0vamp1r3 December 5, 2015 at 10:16 am -      #12

    Spawn takes both rounds

  13. pimpmage December 5, 2015 at 12:08 pm -      #13

    A truly insightful comment amm0, thanks for letting us know.

  14. Friendlysociopath December 5, 2015 at 12:23 pm -      #14

    A king is the ruler of his own land, not the land of another’s.

    True, but BankGambling matches are about a single shared universe and timeline correct? Meaning the omni-whatever would still be in the one universe and using their powers in one universe.

    Also, personally I see it as a power over not a power of.

    The difference between the two is the king must be granted his authority, an omnipotent simply has theirs. The various omnis in fiction have not been given power over other fictions true, but they have been given the power of all-whatever.

    An Omnipresent has been given the power of being everywhere- taking him to another universe doesn’t remove this power anymore than taking someone to another universe undoes fire manipulation.

    Omni doesn’t literally mean what people think.

    It kind of does:
    dictionary.reference.com/browse/omnipotent
    www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/omnipotent
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotence

    Omnis = a combining word that means “all”
    Key feature in all of those, “Unlimited, Infinite” and it’s referring to “power”.

    which would mean that if I owned a store on Earth and that store had all the shoes on Earth, it doesn’t mean I have all shoes on some other Earth-like planet

    Correct, you’d have more, because that’s the key- Infinite, Unlimited. In regards to “power” that means you can do anything because you have more than enough power to do so.
    Jumping universes isn’t going to take away this power, it’s a stated power of whoever is being talked about, makes just as much sense to take away super-strength or speed.

  15. Amm0vamp1r3 December 5, 2015 at 12:40 pm -      #15

    No problem

  16. Friendlysociopath December 5, 2015 at 4:09 pm -      #16

    Not sure how to feel about how WordPress retroactively puts comments back.

    That said, I believe Alucard’s bullets are blessed so they should be capable of hurting Spawn if he could conceivably hit him.

    From what I remember (not much) isn’t most of Spawn just using his cloak and chains to destroy his enemies? Alucard’s favorite tactic is to let people beat the crap out of him and then regen for a surprise attack- how familiar is base Spawn with regenerating enemies?

    I ask because people who are used to that sort of thing (Like God Eaters for example, or someone who frequently fights Deadpool) are much less likely to fall for that gambit.

  17. LadyRamkin December 5, 2015 at 4:32 pm -      #17

    “than taking someone to another universe undoes fire manipulation.”

    Surely that depends on circumstances. If a MTG wizard is put in a universe that does not have mana or an EC equivalent he can not then use his fire spells. or any spells. Right?

  18. Amm0vamp1r3 December 5, 2015 at 4:39 pm -      #18

    That said, I believe Alucard’s bullets are blessed so they should be capable of hurting Spawn if he could conceivably hit him.

    I believe it has to be Holy weapons forged in heaven not just holy, well atleast that’s what they said on the deathbattle thing

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARq_2duhIGU

  19. Mea quidem sententia December 5, 2015 at 5:03 pm -      #19

    @Friendlysociopath
    Not that I’m aware of, but even if such is the case, then having two characters who are considered omnipotent is a stalemate. However, just as the Flash lost his Speed Force in the Marvel/DC crossover as he and Quicksilver were in a different universe, so it would be here.

    Power is relative. It is meaningless if there is no power of or over something. Besides, it’s not like rulers of the past weren’t regarded as incarnations of their god, such as Pharaoh, the incarnation of Ra.

    Actually, removing an omnipresent being and sending him to another universe would undo his omnipresence, if you understand omnipresence similarly to the idea of gas pervading an entire room. Unless there is an omniverse (another limitation on the prefix, omni-), then this omnipresent being is restricted. This wouldn’t be infinite, but finite.

    Considering fire exists in most, if not all universes in fiction, manipulating fire doesn’t seem like it would be an issue, as long as this control and generation of fire involves atoms or an elementally equivalent, such as the Force, or ki, or chakra.

    No, really, omni- only means “all”.

    www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=omni-

    www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/omni-

    dictionary.reference.com/browse/omni-

    en.wiktionary.org/wiki/omni-

    Not that your definitions are meaningful in any way, considering the various understandings of them all in theology. After all, it is accepted that open theists don’t believe God knows all things or infinite things in spite of believing he’s omniscient. Most theists in the western world believe their god can only do all that is logically possible, else the question, “Can God create a rock so large that he cannot lift it? If he can, then he’s not omnipotent. If he can’t, then he’s not omnipotent.”

    It wouldn’t mean I have infinite, only all on Earth. Like I said, an omnipotent being may have power over himself if placed in a different universe that’s not his own, but if the golden goddesses were sent to Skyrim, they would be bitch slapped by the Aedra across all of Tamriel twice over. Because omni-abilities are a tier of their own, I’m really not concerned about others losing out their abilities when they don’t have complete control over another universe.

  20. AbsoluteZero December 5, 2015 at 7:21 pm -      #20

    Regardless of definitions of Omnipotence, and I feel I made my stance on it clear on an above post. I looked up some feats for God Spawn. Which, is as I suspected. An unholy roflstomp.

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3667666-divine+spawn+vs+god+and+satan+%23162+%289%29.png

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149056/3346017-spawn+closes+heaven+and+hell.jpg

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149056/3346474-spawn+owns+god+3.jpg

    i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/Manjaro_/spawn/Spawn163p032006.jpg

  21. Friendlysociopath December 5, 2015 at 8:06 pm -      #21

    Not that your definitions are meaningful in any way, considering the various understandings of them all in theology.

    Well that was a stupid thing to say isn’t it?
    Think about that for a moment, of course they revolve around theology. Because it’s a term that has no human, or even scientific, significance beyond philosophy and theology.

    then this omnipresent being is restricted.

    But they’re not though, the author cannot write about universes that doesn’t exist so far as they’re concerned. There are rules that prevent them from doing so called “Copyright”.
    If the person creates a character and makes them Omnipotent, then that is their stated power.

    Like I said, an omnipotent being may have power over himself if placed in a different universe that’s not his own, but if the golden goddesses were sent to Skyrim, they would be bitch slapped by the Aedra across all of Tamriel twice over.

    If the Golden Goddesses are stated as Omnipotent, then no they will not; because of Omnipotence.

    An Omnipotent can defeat another Omnipotent, and then the Omnipotent would still win- it’s a paradox similar to time travel.
    Omnipotent A: “I win. You lose.”
    Omnipotent B: “No you lose. I win.”
    This is why we ban Omnipotents in most universal matches, it cannot be debated who would win.

    A real-world equivalent would be a trick coin- no matter how you throw it- it’s always heads.

    Can God create a rock so large that he cannot lift it?

    Yes, and then he would lift it. That’s what it means, infinite power, no limits.

  22. Alpha or Omega December 5, 2015 at 8:39 pm -      #22

    @Mea
    “Like I said, an omnipotent being may have power over himself if placed in a different universe that’s not his own, but if the golden goddesses were sent to Skyrim, they would be bitch slapped by the Aedra across all of Tamriel twice over. Because omni-abilities are a tier of their own, I’m really not concerned about others losing out their abilities when they don’t have complete control over another universe.”
    /
    The Golden Goddesses didn’t own the universe at all.
    It was first a universe of chaos, and they willed the Zelda multiverse as we know it.
    Don’t know where you think it had to do with control over a universe considering they didn’t own the Zelda universe to begin with.
    /
    @Absolute Zero
    Spawn also created a universe IIRC.

  23. Mea quidem sententia December 5, 2015 at 8:50 pm -      #23

    @Friendlysociopath
    It’s not at all stupid, considering the point was to present various definitions, meaning no single definition can be the preferred kind.

    It’s their stated power in their universe.

    Outside of the world of Hyrule, they have no power.

    There’s a difference between choosing and being unable to lift a large rock.

    @Alpha or Omega
    So it’s like the god of the Bible who coincided with the deep before manipulating it to form the world. That still gives the goddesses power over their world.

  24. Alpha or Omega December 5, 2015 at 9:03 pm -      #24

    @Mea
    “Outside of the world of Hyrule, they have no power.”
    /
    You mean aside from the fact that they have power over the universe Termina is in?
    Lorule too?
    Sacred Realm(s)?
    The universe Hyrule Warriors is in?
    /
    “So it’s like the god of the Bible who coincided with the deep before manipulating it to form the world. That still gives the goddesses power over their world.”
    /
    So do you have proof that the Golden Goddess’ power came from their universe because I sure have no clue how you got to that conclusion from them existing in that world.
    Furthermore, how can you manipulate one universe to form a multiverse if their power is based on their one universe?

  25. Amm0vamp1r3 December 5, 2015 at 10:58 pm -      #25

    Don’t we have a rule for these types of moments? Like the persons power works here as it does in their home universe?

  26. Mea quidem sententia December 5, 2015 at 11:04 pm -      #26

    @Alpha or Omega
    Termina is not far from Hyrule, according to Mr. Aonuma. If these areas are in the same world, then the gods rule over them as well. There’s nothing wrong with the gods coexisting with chaos and manipulating it. You can manipulate a universe like you can a home. If you wish to build more rooms or even another house, you can, but that construction doesn’t apply to another person’s home.

  27. Alpha or Omega December 5, 2015 at 11:17 pm -      #27

    @Mea
    “This is a kind of parallel world that is similar to and yet different from the land of Hyrule, which was the setting for the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.”
    -Majora’s Mask manual page 6. Page 5 in the PDF.
    gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_N64//Manual/formated/Legend_of_Zelda-_Majora-s_Mask_-_2000_-_Nintendo.pdf
    /
    “In this strange different world, there were many people who looked similar to the people of Hyrule.” -Hyrule Historia, Pg.111 Turmoil in Termina, The Parallel Universe.
    www.glitterberri.com/hyrule-historia/page-111/
    /
    Your argument also didn’t address Lorule, Sacred Realms, Twilight Realm, and the universe Hyrule Warriors is in.
    Your analogy also doesn’t apply to the Zelda multiverse, which would not be one house if one house=one universe.
    /
    I literally have no idea where you got that the Golden Goddesses were only restricted to their main universe.

  28. Karen Starr December 5, 2015 at 11:48 pm -      #28

    It could be like the presence in DC where it’s will reigns over the entire multiverse. I think what Mea is saying is that they have dominion over that entire fiction. Take them out of that fiction, then they won’t, or shouldn’t possibly have that same level of power.

  29. AbsoluteZero December 5, 2015 at 11:54 pm -      #29

    “It could be like the presence in DC where it’s will reigns over the entire multiverse. I think what Mea is saying is that they have dominion over that entire fiction. Take them out of that fiction, then they won’t, or shouldn’t possibly have that same level of power.”

    Oh, I understand that entirely. I understand what Mea is saying. I, and I think others are saying, that Omnipotence shouldn’t care about a lack of meta-narrative. Omnipotence is Omnipotence, unlimited, without restriction, almighty, all-powerful. Writers can’t functionally add a metanarrative into every story just to satisfy that, yes, their Omnipotent being is truly Omnipotent.

    To continue Mea’s analogy of a house, well. To put true omnipotence into that analogy, that being would walk into someone elses house, knock the walls down, and remake it. If they saw fit. Putting restrictions on Omnipotence is like putting a limit on Infinity. It’s infinity. We don’t need someone to make absolutely clear that it’s Infinity +1.

  30. Alpha or Omega December 6, 2015 at 12:07 am -      #30

    @Karen Starr
    I don’t really see the same being applied to the Golden Goddesses.
    Sources state that the Golden Goddess have unlimited power, and that the Zelda multiverse used to be a single chaotic universe. They didn’t reign over that single universe, and they created an entire multiverse. No where did the Goddesses depended on dominion of the piece of fiction they resided in.
    /
    And, if this is somehow true, we could literally say this for every character omnipotent or not.
    /
    “God Al Simmons can create a universe, send people to other dimensions, and recreate reality”
    “Yeah you see, he can’t do it here. He only did it in Image comic’s multiverse”
    /
    “Bugs Bunny survived an explosion that destroyed most of his moon”
    “Yeah, only in his fiction, he can’t do it in this match”
    /
    “STTGL can grow bigger than the universe”
    “Only in that piece of fictional universe”
    /
    “Elder God Demonb-”
    “Imma gonna slap you if you say Demonbane doing something that happened in his megaverse”

  31. Mea quidem sententia December 6, 2015 at 1:23 am -      #31

    www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/02/21/zelda-eiji-aonuma-interview.aspx

    I told you Termina is not a parallel world. Yes, Hyrule Historia has been corrected. I already addressed your other parts. Multiple houses would be multiple worlds, all of which are made from the same preexisting material. They only are omnipotent in these areas.

    In other universes, they only have power over themselves, but they can’t fuck with another omnipotent if that one is in its own universe. With both outside their own universes, they can power themselves up, but they couldn’t alter the world around them. That would require power sharing, which would mean both can fuck with the same material, but good luck getting anywhere.

  32. AbsoluteZero December 6, 2015 at 1:35 am -      #32

    “which would mean both can fuck with the same material, but good luck getting anywhere.”

    S’kinda the point. One omnipotent can’t beat another. What’s why, Friendly stated above that they’re omitted from fights. Neither one can possibly lose, because they’re both omnipotent. It’s a paradox.

    That said, regardless of the point you’ve made, I heartily disagree with the concept of putting any form of restriction on Omnipotence, because it completely misses the point of what Omnipotence is. If it can be restricted, lost, depowered in any way. It simply isn’t Omnipotence. But if a character has been given that power, then they have that power. God Spawn was Omnipotent. And will be Omnipotent for that match. Alucard is hilariously roflstomped.

    So, is anyone going to debate round one?

  33. Alpha or Omega December 6, 2015 at 1:56 am -      #33

    @Mea
    “I told you Termina is not a parallel world. Yes, Hyrule Historia has been corrected.”
    /
    In the interview, he said he said it before. When did he say it before? If he didn’t say it before this interview, then he had made a mistake. He even says that it feels like an alternate dimension. This sound more like the shrug of god than the word of god in this interview.
    /
    “I already addressed your other parts. Multiple houses would be multiple worlds, all of which are made from the same preexisting material. They only are omnipotent in these areas.”
    /
    Execpt the goddesses aren’t using prexisting materials to make new houses, they are pulling out out of their budgets to get new materials. The houses look the same, but they’re not built the same way.
    /
    @AbsoluteZero
    God Spawn isn’t omnipotent. That would be the Man of Miracles

  34. Mea quidem sententia December 6, 2015 at 11:20 am -      #34

    @AbsoluteZero
    The problem is that omnipotent doesn’t have a single definition and is not accepted by all theists. This is why I pointed out that theists will mostly accept that God cannot do the logically impossible. The concept itself is inherently meaningless. In Christianity, the most influential religion in the western world, God cannot sin. To do so would affect his omnipotence becaise sin is weakness. It sounds reasonable, but it’s paradoxical, or inherently meaningless.

    @Alpha or Omega
    I believe it was in another interview. Either way, he said it. Not that it would matter with my analogy. If the goddesses interacted with chaos, as this is what I surmised from what you said, then they are using preexisting material. In one Egyptian myth, Nu, I believe, was the primordial water from which land sprouted out. This is also found in Genesis, except Yahweh brings land from the sea by commanding it, similarly to how Ptah of Memphite theology commands things to come forth.

    Either there is preexisting material, which seems to be the case from how OoT portrays it, or this is an act of creatio ex deo, or creation out of God, which would mean everyone possesses a divine imprint in the Zelda series. Either way, no house is built the same way unless intended, but regardless, this doesn’t extend to other land or material owned by others.

  35. pimpmage December 6, 2015 at 11:28 am -      #35

    Unless the setting the combatants inhabit at modified to allow all combatants to fight at optimum capacity. Which sounds awfully similar to a BankGambling match rule we have here.

  36. Alpha or Omega December 6, 2015 at 11:41 am -      #36

    @Mea
    “I believe it was in another interview. Either way, he said it. Not that it would matter with my analogy.”
    /
    On the other hand, he also said that it feels more like an alternate dimension.
    /
    “If the goddesses interacted with chaos, as this is what I surmised from what you said, then they are using preexisting material.”
    /
    So you’re pretty much speculating that they are using pre-existing material.
    No where did it say that they used Pre-existing material.
    /
    “Either there is preexisting material, which seems to be the case from how OoT portrays it, or this is an act of creatio ex deo, or creation out of God, which would mean everyone possesses a divine imprint in the Zelda series.”
    /
    Aside from the fact that Hyrule Historia says that it’s their own doing, Ocarina of Time’s Creation of Hyrule says that they created the land, wisdom and life from their own power.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4tHItL1xLs
    Either way, they willed a multiverse on a universe of chaos that they didn’t own or had dominion over.

  37. Mea quidem sententia December 6, 2015 at 12:37 pm -      #37

    @Alpha or Omega
    Not really, if chaos was all there was aside from the goddesses. Whic is the case as portrayed by OoT.

    That’s possible using your power to do such. I can create a chair with own power. Unless you’re assuming ex nihiloby that statement, to which I’d say you should prove it. They clearly had dominion over it, else it’d still be chaos.

  38. Alpha or Omega December 6, 2015 at 3:15 pm -      #38

    @Mea
    “Not really, if chaos was all there was aside from the goddesses. Whic is the case as portrayed by OoT.”
    /
    Right, but you’re saying they created the universe using the chaos, OoT says it’s their own powers that created the universe as stated.
    Furthermore, they created a multiverse, you can’t create a multiverse out of a universe.
    /
    “That’s possible using your power to do such. I can create a chair with own power. Unless you’re assuming ex nihiloby that statement, to which I’d say you should prove it. They clearly had dominion over it, else it’d still be chaos.”
    /
    No, they didn’t have dominion, OoT literally states that they created the universe using their own power.
    Hyrule Historia also says they created the universe using their own powers.
    “This world was created by three Goddesses. The Goddesses did not rule this world, but rather left its fate up to the land, the order, and the life that they created. Leaving behind the omnipotent Triforce…”
    /
    “When there was nothing but chaos in the universe, the world was created by three Goddesses. The Goddess of Power Din created the land, The Goddess of Wisdom Nayru created order, and the Goddess of Courage Farore created all living creatures.
    When the Goddesses of Creation left the world, they left the Triforce, a sacred golden triangle representing their powers. It is an omnipotent relic that grants the wishes of those who touch it.”
    www.glitterberri.com/hyrule-historia/page-70/

  39. LadyRamkin December 6, 2015 at 3:25 pm -      #39

    “OoT says it’s their own powers that created the universe as stated.”

    “When there was nothing but chaos in the universe, the world was created by three Goddesses”

    This is inherently contradictory to what you are saying.

    BEFORE the goddesses did anything, there was chaos in the universe.

    IN the UNIVERSE

    Therefore the universe existed before Din nayru and Farore made Hyrule and what not.

  40. Alpha or Omega December 6, 2015 at 3:33 pm -      #40

    Fine, fine, “the universe as we know it.”
    (And multiverse)

  41. Mea quidem sententia December 6, 2015 at 3:52 pm -      #41

    @Alpha or Omega
    Again, chaos would have been the only thing to exist aside from the goddesses. They did create the universe with their own power, which would have involved making order out of chaos. If I created a chair out of wood, I would have used my own power, which is to say my ability to interact with the materials to create a chair in the first place. If there was no mention of chaos, I would agree with you on the matter.

    Saying you cannot create a multiverse out of a universe is silly. That would imply a multiverse had always existed. If the Universe is the starting point of existence, then only existence can stem from that. It’s like asexual division. Out of the organism more organisms come until there are multiple organisms.

  42. Alpha or Omega December 6, 2015 at 4:21 pm -      #42

    @Mea
    “Again, chaos would have been the only thing to exist aside from the goddesses. They did create the universe with their own power, which would have involved making order out of chaos.If I created a chair out of wood, I would have used my own power, which is to say my ability to interact with the materials to create a chair in the first place. If there was no mention of chaos, I would agree with you on the matter.”
    /
    So where is this that you keep claiming they made the universe out of chaos.
    You keep making claims and analogies to your speculation, but you don’t provide proof that the goddesses ever do that.
    Furthermore, Hyrule Historia literally just said they didn’t rule this world.
    /
    “Saying you cannot create a multiverse out of a universe is silly. That would imply a multiverse had always existed.”
    /
    How so?
    /
    “If the Universe is the starting point of existence, then only existence can stem from that. It’s like asexual division. Out of the organism more organisms come until there are multiple organisms.”
    /
    That is literally a real life hypothetical theory that hasn’t been proven.
    We don’t know if the universe works like that, and judging by the split timeline that was caused by the time travel, it doesn’t come from something similar to cell division.

  43. Ninja Lowk December 6, 2015 at 5:21 pm -      #43

    So spawn recently took on 3000+
    I think the last thousand or so he killed by just letting his chains out create a large field of murderchain.
    That could probably help keep some breathing room if Alu decides to release the soul swarm.

  44. LadyRamkin December 6, 2015 at 5:30 pm -      #44

    So, i keep seeing spawn in places, and he looks super sweet, and his powers seem to be super sweet. Is there anywhere i can read this? Or get copies of it? or… something???

    And would it really be worth it?

  45. Ninja Lowk December 6, 2015 at 5:36 pm -      #45

    3000+ Demons

  46. Oh, Answerer Of The Unanswerable December 6, 2015 at 5:38 pm -      #46

    Here ya go, Ramkin [ viewcomic.com/?s=spawn ]
    Only has 20-something issues though.

  47. LadyRamkin December 6, 2015 at 5:42 pm -      #47

    Thank you.

  48. Amm0vamp1r3 December 6, 2015 at 5:58 pm -      #48

    I don’t think there is anything Alucard can do to actually put down Spawn, especially if he’s feeding of the sins of Alucard to heal himself which im pretty sure there are many.

    And if I recall right he has Light speed reactions, can stop time, create things out of then air, teleport etc etc

  49. Mea quidem sententia December 6, 2015 at 6:34 pm -      #49

    @Alpha or Omega
    The goddesses and chaos coexisted. What happened with this chaos? The goddesses brought order from it. Without order, there is chaos. Without chaos, there is order. It’s clear that the goddesses are supposed to be like the Trinity in some manner. Like the story of Genesis, God manipulated the deep and brought forth from tohu wa-bohu (formless and empty; Gen. 1:2). From this, God created the world with his own power, which was speech. Never mind that like God, the goddesses and chaos only existed.

    My arguments by analogy haven’t been addressed. The goddesses may not rule the world, but that was after all had been done. Unlike God, they are deistic. Also, you’re saying asexual division has never actually occurred? If so, then it’s been proved by bacteria, plants, and fungi. If you’re talking about a multiverse, then it shouldn’t matter anyway since we’re talking about fiction and the analogy works just fine.

  50. Alpha or Omega December 6, 2015 at 7:19 pm -      #50

    @Mea
    “The goddesses and chaos coexisted. What happened with this chaos? The goddesses brought order from it.”
    /
    …Where did you get this as I asked before?
    You keep on saying that the chaos was used to shaped the realms.
    I
    /
    “Without order, there is chaos. Without chaos, there is order. It’s clear that the goddesses are supposed to be like the Trinity in some manner. Like the story of Genesis, God manipulated the deep and brought forth from tohu wa-bohu (formless and empty; Gen. 1:2). From this, God created the world with his own power, which was speech. Never mind that like God, the goddesses and chaos only existed.”
    /
    So, you’re saying the Goddesses basically did what God did because they are similar?
    /
    “The goddesses may not rule the world, but that was after all had been done. Unlike God, they are deistic.”
    /
    On the other hand, the Goddesses still take action even though they do not rule it just like they punted the people into the Twilight realm or in Wind Waker, flooding a continent until it was sea.
    /
    “If you’re talking about a multiverse, then it shouldn’t matter anyway since we’re talking about fiction and the analogy works just fine.”
    /
    Yeah I was talking about a multiverse.
    You claimed that the Zelda multiverse came from something similar to asexual division, and I want you to prove that claim because I find that a little hard to believe for the Zelda universe constantly replicates itself similar to asexual division.
    Sure, it’s fiction, but nowhere was it stated that the Zelda universe works like that.

  51. Mea quidem sententia December 6, 2015 at 7:54 pm -      #51

    @Alpha or Omega
    Chaos is no longer present.

    Considering ALttP refers to the Triforce as omnopotent and omniscient, and considering no kami is omnipotent or omniscient, and considering it’s only those of the Abrahamic faiths that have omni-abilities, I’d say it’s honestly not a stretch.

    So they interact with it, but remain mostly transcedental.

    I used an analogy to demonstrate that out of one thing many can and do come. Considering there is a split in the timeline, this does show many can and does come from one. That’s all I was arguing by analogy. No analogy is perfect.

  52. Alpha or Omega December 6, 2015 at 10:53 pm -      #52

    @Mea
    “Chaos is no longer present.”
    /
    “Peace continued through the land for a long time, but with a new era, a wave of chaos descended upon the land.”-Hyrule Historia
    www.glitterberri.com/hyrule-historia/page-77/
    I’m pretty sure chaos isn’t used in the sense you’re thinking of.
    Chaos could simply no longer be present because it was peaceful and orderly, not because it was used for creation.
    /
    “Considering ALttP refers to the Triforce as omnopotent and omniscient, and considering no kami is omnipotent or omniscient, and considering it’s only those of the Abrahamic faiths that have omni-abilities, I’d say it’s honestly not a stretch.”
    /
    So do we try and go out on a limb here to say anybody omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent can be compared to the Abrahamic faiths?
    /
    “So they interact with it, but remain mostly transcedental.”
    /
    This still proves that the Goddesses still interact with something that they don’t rule over.
    /
    “I used an analogy to demonstrate that out of one thing many can and do come. Considering there is a split in the timeline, this does show many can and does come from one. That’s all I was arguing by analogy. No analogy is perfect.”
    /
    There was only three timeline caused by the split(unless you’re into the Zelda theories such as one where Link keeps on making junk timelines or such). There’s nothing to suggest that Termina, Lorule, or other alternate universes came from the main universe.
    *Sigh*
    I hate using Zelda Encyclopedia as a source because it has source problems but this is what it said for the universes.
    “Termina
    When Hyrule was created by the three goddesses at the beginning of time, there were certain side effects of its creation which Din, Nayru and Farore did not anticipate. As the three holy women breathed life into the world and chased away Emptiness, their potent breath slipped through tiny cracks in the folds of space and created millions of alternate worlds in the process. One of these worlds became the land known as Termina.” Zelda Encyclopedia.

  53. Mea quidem sententia December 6, 2015 at 11:48 pm -      #53

    @Alpha or Omega
    Yeah, chaos in that sense is different from the creative sense. I can say that my life is chaotic.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_(cosmogony)

    “Three golden goddesses descended upon the chaos that was Hyrule . . .”

    You’ll also notice that this chaos was Hyrule. Notice how Hyrule becomes something once Din uses her power to start the process of creation.

    We can say it’s been influenced. Japanese may use their own culture in their own games or any media, really, but as far as I’m aware, there is no religious belief that believes in a god of threeness, whose power and knowledge is infinite or complete.

    If there are only three timelines, it’d only be because OoT was the only game where he traveled back and forth in time. The idea that there are alternate worlds based on the choices we make may apply to the Zelda series as well, but because it’s not the focus here and because the creators haven’t spoke of such a thing, it’s not worth pursuing for the time being.

    Anyway, I don’t know anything about Lorule. I’ve already addressed Termina, and the location known as the Sacred Realm from what I recall was created also by the goddesses. If it’s like a pocket dimension, then it can be likened to a pocket on a shirt where that itself is within the same universe, just located in a pocket.

    As for Zelda.com and it’s encyclopedia, as much as I used to like it before I knew of its flaws, I won’t consider it, especially when Eiji Aonuma has explained Termina as being a nearby land that evokes a sense of being in a parallel world.

  54. AmericanBadger December 7, 2015 at 2:44 pm -      #54

    Round 1: Spawn wins. More versatile magic and skill.

    Round 2: Spawn wins in the biggest rapestomp of all time, not even close. He blinks and Alucard burns in hell forever.

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