Ruby Rose Vs Maka Albarn and Soul Evans

Ruby Rose Vs Maka Albarn and Soul Evans

Suggested by LadyRamkin

Ruby Rose (RWBY) will go up against Maka Albarn and Soul Evans (Soul Eater)

Who will win?

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71 Comments on "Ruby Rose Vs Maka Albarn and Soul Evans"

  1. Friendlysociopath November 6, 2015 at 12:28 am -      #1

    Ah, the fight done over the internet repeatedly- I assume this is manga Maka yes?

  2. Rookie November 6, 2015 at 12:33 am -      #2

    Manga Maka should win. RR rose is only around building level in DC and durability, right?

  3. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 12:49 am -      #3

    Manga maka percieved another character grabbing lasers. =lightspeed reaction? lol

    Also, it looks like ruby was heavily inspired by maka.

  4. Friendlysociopath November 6, 2015 at 1:01 am -      #4

    I’ll grab scans tomorrow- I wish I knew a good Maka respect thread- I’m tired of manually searching the entire manga for like the 5 pages I’m looking for.

    RR rose is only around building level in DC and durability, right?

    Dunno, haven’t watched all of season 1- let alone season 2- and now season 3 is starting. She does have that food fight bit where she goes fast enough to throw enemies into a wall.

    Also, it looks like ruby was heavily inspired by maka.

    Er- how so? Schoolgirls with scythes is not at all unusual and it’s pretty much all they’ve got in common besides hunting monsters.

  5. Ninja Lowk November 6, 2015 at 1:16 am -      #5

    Did Maka get passive black blood or does it have to be activated?

  6. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 6:46 am -      #6

    At least i know that the email went through. I suggested at least….. ten? Though in hindsight i think they might all be bad…. so there’s that….

  7. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 7:53 am -      #7

    “Did Maka get passive black blood or does it have to be activated?”

    Earlier in the series, maka only had that activated when she went mad, but later in the series she seems to completely master the black blood by taking different forms using its power. So I would think she could activate it if she feels she needs it.

  8. Shadow-Knight November 6, 2015 at 8:07 am -      #8

    *sigh* So, I love RWBY to death & Ruby is up with my all time favorite characters. That said I don’t think she has what it takes to pull off a win here overall. She is a badass in her own right but her overall strength shines through when she is playing off other members of her team. In fact most of her more impressive feats are done with help from 1 or more of her friends. Then there is the one gaping weakness, get her scythe away from her and she is completely defenseless(one of the final episodes of season 2 had her get captured after she lost her weapon due to falling down a hole. She threw 1 punch at a low level grunt and it didn’t even phase him. And these are the same people she and her team usually plow through with minimal effort.
    ——–
    To summarize, Maka wins 8 / 10. The other two being a lucky shot/slice from Ruby. Ruby’s current lack of solo badass take downs and lack of unarmed skills take her out of this fight more often then not.

  9. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 8:16 am -      #9

    “Maka wins 8 / 10.”

    10/10, i fixed that for ya.

  10. Shadow-Knight November 6, 2015 at 8:33 am -      #10

    Well Pimp, I’m allowing for potential mistakes on Maka’s part and/or luck on Ruby’s part. This isn’t a complete stomp; however, most outcomes fall in Maka’s favor.

  11. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 8:57 am -      #11

    Do we take the RWBY trailers as canon? Because in the Red one, she kills like 20 guys before any of the shells hit the ground.

    I dont actually know if that is fast though.
    – – –
    Can maka stop bullets?

  12. Ninja Lowk November 6, 2015 at 9:14 am -      #12

    “Do we take the RWBY trailers as canon?”

    Pretty sure they are basically preludes.

  13. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 9:17 am -      #13

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYW2GmHB5xs&t=2m47s

    She fires each bullet individually (Duh) But all the casings land at about the same time, and none of them land until after she is finished slicing shit up, which MUST give her some kind of combat speed feat right? And a rate of fire feat.
    – – –
    I also don’t remember Maka doing anything ridiculously OP. She was almost entirely useless in the final battle IIRC, which i rarely do.

  14. Darth Bombad November 6, 2015 at 9:25 am -      #14

    They’ve confirmed several times that the trailers are 100% canon. And Ruby
    being helpless without her scythe was a weird bit of PIS imo. Since in the
    food fight she easily dispatched everyone with a freaking tornado once she got tired
    of fooling around. Still i know nothing of Maka so i can’t say either way.

  15. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 9:52 am -      #15

    “They’ve confirmed several times that the trailers are 100% canon.”

    Okay, so why was Weiss fighting a giant metal dude? That always confused me.

  16. Darth Bombad November 6, 2015 at 10:00 am -      #16

    They haven’t gone in to her back story… yet. Season 3 promises to give us
    more on the Schnee family. Including Weiss’s sister, Winter.

  17. Ninja Lowk November 6, 2015 at 10:03 am -      #17

    So what were Maka’s speed feats because I don’t recall anything that impressive from her.
    ===
    “Can maka stop bullets?”

    With black blood activated she’s could. Outside of that bullets would be a no-no.

  18. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 10:13 am -      #18

    Ruby’s sniper rifle fires with so much force that she uses the recoil to rapidly accelerate around. Im not good at physics but they should be hitting way harder than normal sniper rounds right?

  19. Jake_Uzumaki November 6, 2015 at 10:34 am -      #19

    Ruby’s rifle is an anti-material sniper rifle, I believe the official caliber is 50 but could be wrong. That said it hits way harder than any sniper rifle meant explicitly for killing people.

    As to Weiss and her giant metal knight golem fight, I think the prevailing belief is it was some sort of test by her family to make sure she’s up to the family name.

  20. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 11:06 am -      #20

    You guys underestimate maka and the soul eater verse by a large margin if you think 50 call bullets will harm them.

    factpile.com/10281-kill-la-kill-vs-soul-eater/

    Soul eater was holding its own against kill LA kill verse. In that match, it seems all the scans I posted don’t work anymore. Shame. I can post more on here later today.

  21. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 11:15 am -      #21

    img.mangasaurus.com/original/4d82bd80b655688e0916bc08ff89e452894d7160/soul-eater-1392906.png

    Hopefully that link works. Maka getting smacked so hard her flying body beaks the sound barrier. She is smacked into stone too, and the very next panel has her completely fine.

    img.mangasaurus.com/original/d91583117640f713621e8912cdd2901186ec7b45/soul-eater-1392907.png

    And that’s without her black blood durability upgrade form active.

  22. Friendlysociopath November 6, 2015 at 11:17 am -      #22

    Can maka stop bullets?

    Stop or dodge? Black Star and Mifune were dealing with machineguns in the very beginning of the series with no issue; like first chapter.
    www.mangareader.net/soul-eater/1/53

    She was almost entirely useless in the final battle IIRC, which i rarely do.

    Guessing you mean the anime version- which deviates heavily from the manga since it outpaced it. Which is a damn shame because I’d have loved to see Black Star swallow a nuke in the anime version.
    That said, good representation of Soul Resonance Increasing Speed and Power of the users from a part of the anime that was before the split.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPdmLAitbAQ&feature=youtu.be&t=2m57s

    Also, almost all of Maka’s Soul Resonance Techniques can cut through multiple stone pieces like butter.
    www.mangapanda.com/soul-eater/1/177

    Also, after killing Arachne, Maka and Soul are strong enough to cut through blasts that do this
    www.mangapanda.com/soul-eater/64/18

    Also Maka’s Soul Perception lets her lock onto and locate a soul no matter how hidden they are- the range is worldwide.
    Soul eventually learns how to use this technique alongside Soul Resonance to attack their opponent’s Soul Wavelength- slowing them down and lowering their combat effectiveness.
    www.mangareader.net/soul-eater/76/18
    ^Start there and the next 5 or so pages show it working.

    it seems all the scans I posted don’t work anymore. Shame

    I feel the pain

  23. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 11:22 am -      #23

    “Guessing you mean the anime version”

    No, Iv’e onl;y read soul eater, a very long time ago mind you, but i dont remember her being able to actually do anything in the final battle until she actually went inside the crazy guy… kishin??

    She just couldn’t keep up, black star and Kid were the main combatants and they were the ones that gave her the opening to go inside.

    I assume thats what happens in the manga. because ive been told that in the anime she turns into a scythe??? and i dont remember that at all.

  24. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 11:30 am -      #24

    “if you think 50 call bullets will harm them.”

    50 cal bullets fired with enough force that the recoil alone, shoots ruby through the air. Then yes, i think the bullets may potentially harm them.

  25. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 11:32 am -      #25

    Hey lady, have you taken any physics classes before?

  26. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 11:34 am -      #26

    um, no. I attempted A level, but i was so bad at it, they refused to let me take the exam. Also I have stated many times, i know next to nothing about physics…. things fall…. yay.

    Also, i did say “may potentially” not definitely i was very specific about that.
    – – –
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYW2GmHB5xs&t=2m48s

    I doubt a normal 50 cal sniper rifle has recoil that does that. But from my miniscule understanding doesnt that mean that a greater force went the other way…. or somthing

  27. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 11:44 am -      #27

    I assume i said something monumentally stupid for you to have questioned my education in the subject. What was it? i literally have no idea.

  28. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 11:44 am -      #28

    It means she is somehow completely negating and acceleration from gravity. And so is the gun. If you do this in outer space, you get this effect. This wouldn’t happen in an atmosphere.

  29. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 11:46 am -      #29

    Sooo. that is not a physics feat its just semblance magic?

    although everytime she uses her semblance there is the rose petal effect which was absent here.

    So i have no idea what to do with that. What do we normally do when characters break physics?

  30. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 11:55 am -      #30

    The force of the rifle could be completely unchanged from irl stuff if all she does is somehow negate the acceleration due to gravity on herself and the rifle and bullets maybe. Sounds like small time reality warping.

  31. Jake_Uzumaki November 6, 2015 at 11:56 am -      #31

    Well if we’re really getting into it in reality a girl her size would probably be launched onto her ass and probably have her shoulder fractured from some of the ways she holds it without being braced, so some of that might be aura. It wouldn’t let her do quite what it does in the show but the recoil would still hit like a bowling ball to the shoulder.
    I remember when I was a kid I got to shoot a 50 cal rifle laying prone with tripod and everything and my shoulder still stung like a bitch afterwards.

  32. Friendlysociopath November 6, 2015 at 12:02 pm -      #32

    50 cal bullets fired with enough force that the recoil alone, shoots ruby through the air.

    Considering she’s airborne when she does that- I’m actually not sure that’s even unusual.

    There’s a reason 50 cal rifles are usually grounded- being airborne with nothing to brace against whatsoever probably would knock you backwards a decent way- especially someone as light as Ruby.
    Now granted, pretty sure Ruby breaks physics when she does that.

    What do we normally do when characters break physics?

    We accept the physics work for them exactly as shown.
    For example: If a character is blatantly supersonic but produces no shockwave, we still say they’re supersonic- they just don’t produce a shockwave.
    For Ruby that would mean she can use her rifle to push herself around, same as shown.
    However, I wouldn’t use that for a firepower feat for the gun- I’m sure there’s better feats than the gun launching Ruby backwards somewhere in RWBY.

    That said, Black Blood makes the user pretty durable.
    www.mangareader.net/soul-eater/4/31
    Later Maka does the same thing in another chapter

    And gives some nice regen too
    www.mangareader.net/soul-eater/111/6

  33. Jake_Uzumaki November 6, 2015 at 12:08 pm -      #33

    Ruby also has her semblance speed bursts.
    That said I don’t really think she can take this, maaybe very early series Maka but by the end…

  34. Ninja Lowk November 6, 2015 at 1:11 pm -      #34

    “Stop or dodge? Black Star and Mifune were dealing with machineguns in the very beginning of the series with no issue; like first chapter.”

    And those a good feats for them but like I mentioned I don’t recall Maka doing anything like that. Besides that, didn’t BlackStar start out and end with being one of the naturally physically superior members of the group?
    ===
    “And that’s without her black blood durability upgrade form active.”

    Remember anything regarding piercing or slashing type damage?
    ===
    Regarding the rifle I read something on a respect thread about her rifle needing to shoot a 50. Cal at mach 7 or something to be able to launch her like it does.

  35. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 1:26 pm -      #35

    “Remember anything regarding piercing or slashing type damage?”

    The source of the damage should not change much at all. Her entire body and internal organs resisted hitting stone at the speed of sound. A regular human would turn into a spatter of gore. She didn’t even look like she bled at all from the impact. Maybe just got the wind knocked out of her. Also, I believe the black blood activates automatically if she gets beat up enough. The black blood pretty much turns every bit of blood in your body to a rediculous hardness. It’s pretty much like turning your skin to steel. Seems to regen wound too.

  36. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 1:34 pm -      #36

    “Regarding the rifle I read something on a respect thread about her rifle needing to shoot a 50. Cal at mach 7 or something to be able to launch her like it does.”

    Sweet.
    – – –
    “The Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird. An advanced long-range strategic reconnaissance aircraft capable of Mach 3 and an altitude of 85,000 feet.”

  37. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 1:44 pm -      #37

    Assuming that all of those shells at the end came from the combat segment after she launched herself.
    then,
    in about 14 seconds she fired about 37 shots. Which i think is about 2 shots per second. And if they are mach 7… that would be totally wicked

  38. Ninja Lowk November 6, 2015 at 1:52 pm -      #38

    “The source of the damage should not change much at all.”

    Kind of does. I can take a punch without bleeding I however I can not take a blade with punching me. That edge.

  39. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 1:54 pm -      #39

    “I assume this is manga Maka yes?”

    Oh right, yeah.

    …. anime soul though.

  40. Ninja Lowk November 6, 2015 at 2:13 pm -      #40

    Here’s the calc for mach 7 if anyone wants to check it.
    www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/3g8e8n/request_how_much_force_would_have_to_be_exerted/

  41. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 2:24 pm -      #41

    Ninja, what I’m trying to say is that those things are not proportional. Take getting punched and getting stabbed to a regular human. Now compare that to someone who took a punch equivalent to getting thrown into rock at the speed of sound. Now compare that to getting sliced by a scythe. The difference the two blunt attacks is astronomically different than getting stabbed vs getting sliced. Saying someone should have human durability against blades, but completely superhuman durability vs impact forces is completely rediculous.

    A blade hitting someone’s skin is still an impact force, just narrowed to a point. More force is acting against a smaller surface. Against a body that didn’t even bleed when receiving massive impact trauma throughout the entire body, a cut from a bladed weapon does not even compare.

  42. Friendlysociopath November 6, 2015 at 2:24 pm -      #42

    I can take a punch without bleeding I however I can not take a blade with punching me. That edge.

    No worries, Maka can tank Cronoa cracking her right upside the face with the edge of the sword.
    www.mangahere.co/manga/soul_eater/v06/c019/18.html

    And those a good feats for them but like I mentioned I don’t recall Maka doing anything like that.

    God I hate how respect threads can vanish on the internet- the kids somewhat routinely fly large distances very quickly.

    Found the feat where she dodges “beams” though
    www.mangahere.co/manga/soul_eater/v16/c100/21.html

  43. Ninja Lowk November 6, 2015 at 2:59 pm -      #43

    “No worries, Maka can tank Cronoa cracking her right upside the face with the edge of the sword.”

    Wasn’t that with black blood? We I was talking about normal maka.
    ===
    “Saying someone should have human durability against blades, but completely superhuman durability vs impact forces is completely rediculous.”

    That was just a simplified comparison to why it kind of matters. I’m not saying she has normal human durability against regular blade or firearm. We’re talking about Ruby and Maka.

    1. Ruby’s rifle is not ordinary via firing bullets at military railgun velocities.
    2. Crescent Rose’s edge + Ruby’s stength is not ordinary
    cdn.makeagif.com/media/6-14-2015/ZHWJ1x.gif
    In addition to that she also can utilizes both her speed and the extreme force generated from firing to help drive the blade through things.

    Being able to take a lot of force over a large area doesn’t make you immune to extreme forces focused on a single point(Without feats). Even with black blood she has been at least punctured by a blade, which proves that.

  44. Ninja Lowk November 6, 2015 at 3:07 pm -      #44

    “single point”

    Single, small; you know what I mean.

  45. Friendlysociopath November 6, 2015 at 3:52 pm -      #45

    Wasn’t that with black blood? We I was talking about normal maka.

    Normal Maka has Black Blood- even in the finale she’s still using the stuff. Although as Pimp said, she’s routinely knocked deeply into stone and gets back up from it without significant injury.

    1. Ruby’s rifle is not ordinary via firing bullets at military railgun velocities.
    2. Crescent Rose’s edge + Ruby’s stength is not ordinary


    1. A Mach 7 bullet is not penetrating several tons of stone, something Maka, Black Star, Crona and many others in the series accomplish with ease.
    2. Maka and Crona with Black Blood are virtually immune to one another’s attacks- those same attacks that cut straight through solid stone.
    Ruby needs feats of a similar level to say she could beat the Black Blood.

    Even with black blood she has been at least punctured by a blade, which proves that.

    That Black Blood can be defeated with enough force? Sure- that’s been proven.
    Now prove Ruby is anywhere near that when Maka and Crona can chop through tons of stone without even slowing down.

    This of course is ignoring that Maka can just attack Ruby’s soul with the Noise Cancelling Technique which would pretty much incapacitate her.

  46. Jake_Uzumaki November 6, 2015 at 3:56 pm -      #46

    @Friendly
    Ramkin specified anime Soul I don’t think he had that in the anime.

  47. Friendlysociopath November 6, 2015 at 4:07 pm -      #47

    Ramkin specified anime Soul I don’t think he had that in the anime.

    Ah- I thought that was a joke- how the hell are we supposed to judge Manga Maka and Anime Soul when all of Manga Maka’s feats required Manga Soul?

  48. Jake_Uzumaki November 6, 2015 at 4:13 pm -      #48

    *shrugs* also just figured I might as well post it but real world 50 cal sniper rifle test youtu.be/QsgwcDOGJQY

  49. Ninja Lowk November 6, 2015 at 6:22 pm -      #49

    @FS
    I thought the black blood had to be activated first?
    ===
    On the rifle, it is 6-7 times more power then a weapon that punches through steel, easily, going by jakes video. I think its more akin to an semi-automatic auto cannon.
    If her skin is compareable to stone, Ruby’s rifle should still be capable of doing some damage.
    I’ll get back to you on scythe thing.But didn’t a few burst decapitate the giant bird that was taking everything including “Imma punch you dead” Yang?

  50. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 6:58 pm -      #50

    “I thought that was a joke”

    You know me so well. I was joking, JK #LOL.
    – – –
    Manga for both.

  51. Friendlysociopath November 6, 2015 at 6:59 pm -      #51

    I thought the black blood had to be activated first?

    It doesn’t take that long, Soul does it by instinct when they fight Arachne in the manga. Arachne can’t even touch Maka during that battle.

    But didn’t a few burst decapitate the giant bird that was taking everything including “Imma punch you dead” Yang?

    RWBY is weird in that it’s almost canon that the group is stronger when they fight together- Ruby couldn’t even deck a nameless thug properly when disarmed and alone.
    (Actually I’m pretty sure it IS canon but the reason eludes me atm)

    If her skin is compareable to stone, Ruby’s rifle should still be capable of doing some damage.

    Some yes, but kill I doubt, which then returns to her regen that lets her heal fatal wounds in seconds.
    See post #22 for what Maka can cut through, then remember Crona and Maka can only barely injure one another when they activate Black Blood.

    You know me so well.

    So I do, interesting
    giphy.com/gifs/reaction-sBl8Fowq0ErFC

  52. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 7:14 pm -      #52

    “See post #22 for what Maka can cut through”

    That cutting through stone thing is with…. “demon hunt”?? right? The giant crescent blade thing. Whereas The scans provided show crona blocking base soul. in his normal scythe for.
    – – –
    “Some yes, but kill I doubt, which then returns to her regen that lets her heal fatal wounds in seconds.”

    Well, how would she deal with taking 37 rounds in 14 seconds?

    How fatally wounded has she been but still gotten back up?

  53. Ninja Lowk November 6, 2015 at 7:15 pm -      #53

    “RWBY is weird in that it’s almost canon that the group is stronger when they fight together- Ruby couldn’t even deck a nameless thug properly when disarmed and alone.
    (Actually I’m pretty sure it IS canon but the reason eludes me atm)”

    Yeah but it doesn’t really take away the blade slicing through…
    The reason could be that she’s only strong enough to wield the scythe and that the blade is REALLY sharp. Or maybe because she lives in a world with an abundance of superhumans and she’s on the low end of the strength spectrum because of all dat speed… Ruby is like the Flash of her universe.

  54. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 7:33 pm -      #54

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaS41V8CXSM&t=26m7s

    Survives an explosion to the face, and is totes fine.
    – – –
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0aFLwxLOAQ&t=2m44s

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0aFLwxLOAQ&t=13m42s

    Super speed

  55. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 9:23 pm -      #55

    “On the rifle, it is 6-7 times more power then a weapon that punches through steel, easily, going by jakes video. ”

    You gonna keep saying this without backing it up? Show me some scenes where she uses it to shoot people? Oh wait I can do it myself. It seems she has trouble even wielding her weapon.
    youtu.be/CQgsf9IWRdU?t=214

    That is not much of a showing… at all. Heres some maka scans:
    Speed:
    a.mhcdn.net/store/manga/252/16-105.0/compressed/ssoul-eater-3793663.jpg?v=1356942783
    youtu.be/3n0ZjXL9McY?t=55

  56. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 9:23 pm -      #56

    Maka regen:
    c.mhcdn.net/store/manga/252/16-110.0/compressed/upg.027.jpg?v=1369011246
    a.mhcdn.net/store/manga/252/16-111.0/compressed/mimg007.jpg?v=1372470172
    a.mhcdn.net/store/manga/252/16-111.0/compressed/mimg009.jpg?v=1372470172
    a.mhcdn.net/store/manga/252/16-111.0/compressed/mimg010.jpg?v=1372470172

  57. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 9:25 pm -      #57

    Maka durability:
    img.mangasaurus.com/original/4d82bd80b655688e0916bc08ff89e452894d7160/soul-eater-1392906.png
    img.mangasaurus.com/original/d91583117640f713621e8912cdd2901186ec7b45/soul-eater-1392907.png
    a.mhcdn.net/store/manga/252/16-111.0/compressed/mimg018.jpg?v=1372470172
    a.mhcdn.net/store/manga/252/16-111.0/compressed/mimg019.jpg?v=1372470172

  58. LadyRamkin November 6, 2015 at 9:27 pm -      #58

    “That is not much of a showing… at all”

    … So because magic to block the bullets they are totally worthless, especially against an opponent that cant do magic? Seems legit.

  59. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 9:36 pm -      #59

    “… So because magic to block the bullets they are totally worthless, especially against an opponent that cant do magic? Seems legit.”

    No, it tells me those bullets are not wanked up to be nearly twice as fast as a railgun. I see no explosive force on either end of that action-reaction bit. That just looks like ordinary bullets at an ordinary speed.

  60. Ninja Lowk November 6, 2015 at 11:23 pm -      #60

    “You gonna keep saying this without backing it up?”

    Take the 3200 m/s I got from the calc for speed.
    The 42 grams of a 50. Cal.

    Insert them into ye old energy calculator
    www.1728.org/energy.htm
    Which results in 2.1504e+5 joules aka 215,040 joules(according to my scientic notation converter) aka 215.04 kilojoules.

    The 50. Cal apparently puts out 14-18 joules.
    215.04÷18=11.946
    So I guess I was wrong, it’s 11 times.

    Today I learned that I am to lazy to do math and there is a calculator/converter for everything.
    Math guys if it’s wrong, let me know.
    ===
    “Oh wait I can do it myself. It seems she has trouble even wielding her weapon.”

    I assume you haven’t watched the series so you probably didn’t know. Ruby has trouble just walking in heels. She’s a combat boot kind of gal. So you can imagine trying to fight in something your not comfortable walking in.
    ===
    “No, it tells me those bullets are not wanked up to be nearly twice as fast as a railgun.”

    Where did you get twice as fast as a rail gun? Ruby bullets are still in the single digit mach range. That still within rail gun range and she is using a smaller caliber then what we are using in our railguns which are basically cannons. Those things are supposed to get into megajoules range, rwby so far is a bit under that currently.
    Also if anything going by the numbers it’s seems like a feat for Cinder’s powers. Ruby uses that thing to give monsters a hole to fit their bowling balls in. Has no one shown Her intro yet?

  61. pimpmage November 6, 2015 at 11:40 pm -      #61

    “Take the 3200 m/s I got from the calc for speed.”

    I have a better explanation of why her gun moves her around… toonforce. Not the force of the gun. Know how I know this? She shoots regularly without flying around with the force of the shot, then she somehow chooses to let the gun carry her away like a boost of speed. This is TOONFORCE. Not mach 7 velocity shots.

    “Where did you get twice as fast as a rail gun?”

    Ninja lowk is trying to show that that rifle shoots with mach 7 velocities. Basically linked a calc adding up the force necessary to accelerate her around quickly. I’d argue its just a bog standard sniper rifle with toonforce powers.

  62. Ninja Lowk November 7, 2015 at 12:21 am -      #62

    “I have a better explanation of why her gun moves her around… toonforce.”

    Its noted that she enhances her strikes using the massive recoil from the gun. That is literally her thing; its a factor in the way the both the weapon and her style of fight works/based on.

    Theres evidence already presented that showing how devestating the shots are. Theres evidence showing what it would take to launch her.
    Theres multiple showing of her relying on recoil and a statement made about how dangerous her weapon is to wield.

    Have you ever considered it was toonforce or magic or whatever technobabble something or other that keeps her from flying when she has braced herself with the blade or something? Because other things point to the recoil being a real issue that she uses to her advantage.

  63. Jake_Uzumaki November 7, 2015 at 12:23 am -      #63

    “Its noted that she enhances her strikes using the massive recoil from the gun. That is literally her thing; its a factor in the way the both the weapon and her style of fight works/based on.”

    Actually its how a large percentage of characters in RWBY work.

  64. Ninja Lowk November 7, 2015 at 12:55 am -      #64

    To add, the creators of the show explicitly mention the recoil aiding in her flying around and in her strikes.
    ===
    “Actually its how a large percentage of characters in RWBY work.”

    Never really thought about that. In the same podcast they mention about recoil they reveal Ruby was the first. I guess Monty found a nice theme.

  65. Friendlysociopath November 7, 2015 at 12:58 am -      #65

    Actually its how a large percentage of characters in RWBY work.

    It’s one thing I love about the series, especially as an animator, the weapons are extremely different from typical ones. Story is a bit cliche but the fighting and animation carries the series for me.
    But damn, the fanbase can be such a pain in the ass, bunch of teens who only want to talk about ships.

    Theres evidence already presented that showing how devestating the shots are. Theres evidence showing what it would take to launch her.

    Er- not exactly- you have evidence that she’s launched backwards and are trying to use that to determine firepower- which makes no sense to me. It’s a 50 cal gun- use the feats it has for firepower and penetration- don’t make them up.

    Super speed

    I don’t know what to do with that scene- I really don’t. She can’t be going fast enough to cause that effect and take that long to reach the people and then the end of the hallway.

    Have you ever considered it was toonforce or magic or whatever technobabble something or other that keeps her from flying when she has braced herself with the blade or something?

    Let’s be honest, Monty operated on Rule of Cool, physics took a distinct 2nd place. All we can do is draw a line and figure out how far we’re gonna try to carry physics for RWBY.

    That said, she does ground herself by digging the blade into the ground several times. Other times she uses recoil to make herself faster and hit harder. Other times recoil doesn’t move her at all.
    Seems to be based on what she wants.

  66. Ninja Lowk November 7, 2015 at 1:55 am -      #66

    “Er- not exactly- you have evidence that she’s launched backwards and are trying to use that to determine firepower- which makes no sense to me.”

    They determined how fast the bullet travelled based on the recoil sending her flying. They didn’t figure out the firepower.
    I did that by inputing those figures that others, better at math then I, calculated into a system that utilized an equation necessary to determine the resulting energy based on those numbers(ie 42gram at 3200m/s). That not making anything up that’s math. At least I think that’s math.

    I cheated at math using programs math helped create AND finished my homework. Suck it mathematics.
    ===
    “It’s a 50 cal gun- use the feats it has for firepower and penetration- don’t make them up”

    The math seems to be based around 50. Cal oinds and what forces would be required to achieve the feat necessary utilizing that.
    Plus remember its a science fantasy world where they are advanced enough to create mechs and portable D.E.W.s, Hypersonic bullets looks kind of low tech at that point.

  67. Darth Bombad November 7, 2015 at 2:53 am -      #67

    At about 13 minutes in Ruby and Blake cut the arm off of a mech.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1EuyliSO_Q

    Also damn Yang’s awesome! DB got it right for once.

  68. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets November 7, 2015 at 3:00 am -      #68

    “Also damn Yang’s awesome! DB got it right for once.”

    *grabs popcorn and waits for Friendly’s rebuttal*

  69. Aelfinn November 7, 2015 at 3:36 am -      #69

    “Here’s the calc for mach 7 if anyone wants to check it.”

    I’m like 90% sure he fucked up the math. I keep going over it, and there’s just that one part where he’s trying to equate Vy to Vx and it’s just straight-up wrong.
    =
    =
    I’m actually going to assume that Ruby was launched horizontally, as while it appears there is an angle, the actual moment of launch indicates she fired it pretty much horizontally. Furthermore, she travels pretty much horizontally, too. Now, this is a rough guesstimate, but it looks like the tip of the scythe was 2.5 feet off the ground (this is based on the fact that it appears to end up at mid-thigh of Ruby if she were to be standing on the ground).

    That’s 0.762 meters.
    0.76 = 4.9t^2
    T = 0.394
    This is how long she was in the air for.

    Ruby traveled 25 feet in 0.394 seconds, that’s 19.32 m/s

    135 pounds is 61.235 kg, which means she had 1183.25…momentum units (momentum actually just has shitty units).

    Bullets are close to 42 grams, or 0.042 kg. That means in order to have the same momentum units, the bullet would be moving 28172.5 m/s or Mach 82.

    Side note, this is around 16.7 megajoules.
    =
    Keep in mind, 50 cal bullets generally have 38.976 momentum units, and they travel Mach 3-ish.
    =
    Feel free to check my math, I know I didn’t lay out the equations specifically, but the logic is there and I can lay them out if you want. Of course, one might challenge the whole feat on the notion of “Rwby just has characters doing things for literally no other reason than to look cool, and ‘Mach 82 bullets’ don’t make sense in the setting”.

  70. LadyRamkin November 7, 2015 at 6:56 am -      #70

    “Ruby traveled 25 feet in 0.394 seconds,”

    How do you know she traveled 25 feet?

  71. pimpmage November 7, 2015 at 7:45 am -      #71

    “Feel free to check my math, I know I didn’t lay out the equations specifically, but the logic is there and I can lay them out if you want. Of course, one might challenge the whole feat on the notion of “Rwby just has characters doing things for literally no other reason than to look cool, and ‘Mach 82 bullets’ don’t make sense in the setting”.

    I think she just toonforced herself to negate weight force acting upon herself and her gun. I’m only in phys 114 in college so this may by my shitty interpretation. With no 0 downwards force and as a result, no upwards force, equal and opposite reactions take place when she fires her gun. (freefall physics like in space) She wouldn’t need to overcome any static friction or air resistance if she either reduced her mass to 0 and/or her acceleration due to gravity.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYf6av21x5c

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