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Half human girl who uses magic vs half human girl who uses magic.
Here’s some young Gwen vs Ben stuff
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Shadow clone type stuff. Also Gwen can take a hit. It’s been awhile since I’ve seen the show but wasn’t Raven was more of a glass cannon?
Not sure, been a while for me aswell. Will try and find stuff tomorrow but I do recall her going all “Daughter of Trigon” atleast once…..dragged some poor sod into a dark dimensions by pulling him under her cloak with shadow tentacles
supporting my favourite magical goth weirdo.
quoth the raven?
also, where is that picture from? its amazeballs.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_cELuKKYog
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Problem with that is that Gwen can both peer into and open portals into other dimensions. So BFR is going to be a bit difficult.
Bump.
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I go for Gwen, she can hold her own against a serious Ben who have a lot if experience using the Ultimatrix, and was manipulating life energy around her ( Correct me If im wrong ) when she is not at her full potentiall…yet.
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In Hand to Hand it have to go to Gwen, Sure Raven have fought a lot of thugs with powers but that was with her own powers not her HTH skills, I remember when I watches the show that Raven only Kicks her oponents when they are close to her.
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Antodite Form ( Life Energy Manipulation ) against White Raven ( Ligth Energy ), It could go ether way, If its Gwen at her 100% knowledge of her full potentiall….I cant see Raven Winning or making a scratch on Gwen.
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My Vote for Gwen for now.
Forgot to mention that In the Original Ben 10 when Gwen was using a magic mask that give the user Luck Powers, Gwen though that it was the mask that give her luck, until Alien Force when it was reviled that she was a Alien Antodite/ Human Hybrid, that It wasnt the mask that give her Luck in her childhood, it was herself subconsiously using her Antodite powers, meaning she have Luck Powers? If any ask me…I could say maybe cuz its still a theory.
I’d like to point out the first link I used, where Raven kills Trigon and then uses her abilities over the entire city.
I’d like to point out the first link I used, where Raven kills Trigon and then uses her abilities over the entire city.
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I… totally missed that because of no thumbnail; boy, that’s a nice feat; would that just be point-blank reality warping or is it more specified?
“I’d like to point out the first link I used, where Raven kills Trigon and then uses her abilities over the entire city.”
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I thought that was a power of friendship mixed with Trigon’s power kind of thing thing?
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If Raven does really have Trigon’s power, she has the ability to cut people of from thier source of power
www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1w3Np1pskA
She can also drain energy from others to boost herself.
“point-blank reality warping or is it more specified?”
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The effect of killing Trigon? Realtiy warping? Cancelling out what he had done?
I think it might be one of those things. Honestly I’m not sure which.
However it does take sometime and possibly outside help so there are some ways around it.
@Ninja Lowk & @Friendly.
What are you two talking about?
Are you talking about when Raven gets her White Form and beated Trygon? If it is, she really defeated her Father but didnt kill him… That powerfull, I dont think she really have Trygon’s powers….yea she is a Trygon hybrid but she didnt show any if her Father’s feats, all she shows was her having the power to figth Trygon head on, her White Form migth be her full conection to her other part of her hybrid self thats is like a Deity ( Corect me if Im wrong ), her power in that form like someone here stated, is more like City Level in DC and Range shown in the Episode.
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The Question is…… Can Raven go White Form?…..Well…She didnt go White Form when her Team Mates were in Danger in the Future…So it migth be a last result or a one use only,…. Thats not all, Shown in the Episodethe only way Raven got White Form was with the Help of the Titans ( Power of Friendship XP ) and seeing her Friends getting nearly kill by Trygon, soo… It Migth be outside help.
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For Gwen, She in her Base took a Meteor head on ( She have her shield but she feelt some of the impact ) and destroyed one in Alien Force, there is a fan in some thread that calc the meteors that Gwen tanked and destroyed, the calc stated to be City Level, making Base Gwen go toe to toe against White Raven.
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Forgot to say that Base Gwen also tanked a energy beam from Waybig Ben in Alien Force, Waybig was stated to be Planet Level by the media ( I still dont know if they are rigthor wrong ) any way Gwen is a tough cockie to crack.
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If Gwen goes Antodite Form she migth win.
If Gwen knowns her 100% 0f her Potential then this is over the moment she begins to get serious.