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Okay…I know Spider-Man is stronger than he’s given credit for a lot of the time…but I don’t think he can handle Aquaman..or did Aquaman get hit hard with the nerfhammer?
Aquaman, he can breath under water and talk to fish, he has all the same powers as spongebob.
Might want give spidey the superior spider suit. Claws and blades are your best friend against Aquaman.
Actually he is in nyc, he could probably go for a new suit run back to his lab.
Any way Aquaman can get out of Spiderman’s webbing?
“Aquaman, he can breath under water and talk to fish, he has all the same powers as spongebob.”
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Maybe if Spongebob was a super-strong mind controlling cannibal… If only nick did a treehouse of horror type special.
“Claws and blades are your best friend against Aquaman.”
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Are they really? Caus he’s unaffected by the pressure created by bullets, which is a lot.
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“Any way Aquaman can get out of Spiderman’s webbing?”
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He’s probably strong enough if he’s close to water.
How quickly his powers deteriorate is still a mystery to me.
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His movement utility isn’t THAT much lower than spidermans.
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His healing factor is really impressive under water.
Well considering his outfit he might assume Aquaman is a merperson like Namor and make a point of avoiding water to wear Aquaman down, maybe?..and the possibility of minimal information including that he’s king of Atlantis, or would it? or would it just be “he’s like Namor”
“Are they really? Caus he’s unaffected by the pressure created by bullets, which is a lot.”
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Trench’s teeth. His own trident. I think a spear gun manage to at least dig into his flesh when he was younger and attacked black manta’s dad. Maybe add the modifier of with super strength?
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Also you’ll note that outside of his armor, a shot to the skin can still give him a paper cut; the most vicious of wounds.
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“How quickly his powers deteriorate is still a mystery to me.”
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I recall Mera mentioning that lack of water isn’t a problem for her and her beau.
Didn’t Spiderman beat Firelord? And also took beating from Phoenix Colossus and not died and even win?
“Didn’t Spiderman beat Firelord? And also took beating from Phoenix Colossus and not died and even win?”
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The Firelord feat is universally recognized as PiS, it’s no more of a real feat than Deathstroke being too fast for Flash.
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And when did Peter feat Phoenix Colossus? He got his ass kicked if i remember correctly.
Colossus was just holding back his punches, didn’t wanna kill Peter.
“Trench’s teeth. His own trident. I think a spear gun manage to at least dig into his flesh when he was younger and attacked black manta’s dad. Maybe add the modifier of with super strength?”
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Well his trident is magical, and pierced Darkseid (a planet level durability character).
The spear gun feat was… well.. when he was younger. Should that count?
Trench is physically stronger than Peter AFAIK.
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“Also you’ll note that outside of his armor, a shot to the skin can still give him a paper cut; the most vicious of wounds.”
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True true,
But… Can Peter really imitate the pressure of a bullet?
He would need to punch a hundred times the speed of a bullet to do so. (to give Aquaman a paper cut that is, granted it will be a paper cut the size of peters fist, but still not a deep wound)
“Didn’t Spiderman beat Firelord”
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Spider-man also once killed Morlun in like 10 seconds. And Spider-verse shows how ridiculous that is. Maybe he beat Firelord using the same mystical juju he has that let him do that.
OH,
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Peter could use the Mark of Kaine:
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Should work right? If he performs it repeatedly, and somehow manages to dodge all of Aquamans swings.
Kinda against his CiS, but, oh well.
@LadyRamkin
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“Spider-man also once killed Morlun in like 10 seconds. And Spider-verse shows how ridiculous that is. Maybe he beat Firelord using the same mystical juju he has that let him do that.”
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Nah, battle lasted for entire night, Spiderman was just too fast for Firelord and eventually Firelord was KO’ed.
“Nah, battle lasted for entire night, Spiderman was just too fast for Firelord and eventually Firelord was KO’ed.”
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You realize Firelord is a Herald of Galactus right…?
Right below Silver Surfer on the power scale… The dude that surfs on Super Nova explosions for fun.
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Oh, and Thor & him went ham.
So… it could be magical god slay-y spider juju?
@Ragnorke
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“You realize Firelord is a Herald of Galactus right…?
Right below Silver Surfer on the power scale… The dude that surfs on Super Nova explosions for fun.”
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Yes and Spiderman managed to hurt him and beat him. Just like current Aquaman managed to hurt Darkseid.
“Yes and Spiderman managed to hurt him and beat him”
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Which is exactly why the Plot Induced Stupidity rule exists. To stop showings like that being used in debates.
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Unless you genuinely believe Peter can planet bust via punches?
It’s either that or PiS, take your pick.
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” Just like current Aquaman managed to hurt Darkseid.”
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Yea, due to a magical WEAPON which stabbed Darkseids EYE.
Aquaman didn’t physically hurt Darkseid via punches, just like Spiderman shouldn’t be able to hurt anyone near mountain level durability +.
We’re talking about a FTL character here.
“It’s either that or PiS, take your pick.”
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OR it is the magical spider juju that lets 616 spider-man wreck morlun, whom routinely destroys and eats people on spider-mans level.
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Not saying it’ likely, but it at least deserves to be on the possibility table.
“OR it is the magical spider juju that lets 616 spider-man wreck morlun, whom routinely destroys and eats people on spider-mans level.”
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Peter beating someone that casually destroys people on Spiderman level, and Peter beating someone that casually destroys planets… Not the same ballpark
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Also, this fight is from the 80s or 90s, back when comics were the least consistent they’ve ever been & PiS was all over the place.
People like Venom were fighting Hulk, people like deathstroke were fighting Superman… etc etc
“Yea, due to a magical WEAPON which stabbed Darkseids EYE.”
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AFTER getting a boost from Flash throwing him at highspeed.
So, what would happen if Spidy managed to get that trident away from Aquaman and web it to the top of a building, would Spidy be agile enough to avoid A-man’s punches? If he can’t get the trident away, how fast is it when attacking?
My only experience with Aquaman is DCAU Aquaman. He is easily one of my favorite heroes.
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I don’t think that Spiderman can top that level of cool so.. Aquaman wins on cool alone.
Aquaman is 3/4 of an avatar
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“would Spidy be agile enough to avoid A-man’s punches?”
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Probably, Aquaman isn’t slow but Spiderman is mad quick with a pre-cog.
“Also, this fight is from the 80s or 90s, back when comics were the least consistent they’ve ever been & PiS was all over the place.”
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True.
BUT it is possible That spider-man mystical fate line juju is somehow responsible via retcon.
That possibility exists.
“Peter beating someone that casually destroys people on Spiderman level, and Peter beating someone that casually destroys planets… Not the same ballpark”
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Morlun’s dad somehow managed to overpower and eat a cosmic spider-man.
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And Kain killed him using mystical spider juju
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Don’t fuck with mystical spider juju (That only a few 616 spiders… and a 982 spider baby seem to have) , it can let you take down opponents that other, far more powerful people can not.
I recall Rag saying something like, “Fights can be PIS, but the feats within the fights aren’t.”. In another thread.
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Spidey beating up Firelord? PIS. But does that mean we should discount the feats that happened?
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I mean, the after effects destroyed several buildings:
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@LadyRamkin
are you talking about Morluns second showing up? Spidey had the Other which is a special quasi mystical Spider boost, but he lost it after One More Day and it moved to Kain, its specifically super capable of killing Morluns family I believe or something, they never really explained it
“are you talking about Morluns second showing up?”
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Um, yes, i think so.
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“Spidey had the Other which is a special quasi mystical Spider boost”
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That is never really explained in spider-verse, which is the only place ive heard of it.
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“but he lost it after One More Day and it moved to Kain,”
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I have no idea what one more day means, but spider-man does not have it anymore? Well…. did he have it when he fought fire lord?
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“its specifically super capable of killing Morluns family I believe or something,”
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So it’s basically Morlun kryptonite? aww.
@Nsl98
I don’t know should we count Batman in base form kicking the shit out of Spectre as him kicking the shit out of Spectre a being who is….supposed to be the Living Tribunal equivalent of his universe? Or PIS
“Um, yes, i think so.”
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Did he kill Morlun in a factory thing (first time) or a hospital room (second)
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“That is never really explained in spider-verse, which is the only place ive heard of it.”
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Yeah, Kain was the Other Ben Parker 2 the Baby was..something can’t remember, and Silk was the Bride…they never really explained what the hell any of them but the Bride meant I think.
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“I have no idea what one more day means, but spider-man does not have it anymore? Well…. did he have it when he fought fire lord?”
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When he sold his love for Mary Jane to Mephisto to save his Aunt May because apparently no one else in the Marvel 616 universe can heal a gun shot wound to an old woman….literally…..and it retconned a couple of story lines and is generally considered up there with Clone Saga as one of the worst Spider-Man stories to ever be penned.
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No I think around the time of the second Morlun encounter is when he got it, the Firelord thing happened ages ago before that.
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“So it’s basically Morlun kryptonite? aww.
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Basically yes maybe? Its confusing and Morlun’s family is weirdly inconsistent.
“or a hospital room”
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This is the one i am thinking of.
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“No I think around the time of the second Morlun encounter is when he got it, the Firelord thing happened ages ago before that.”
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Fair enough. I really don’t have anything else to say in this match. I am going to go and try to get people to talk to me on Link vs Organisation XIII…
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I need to expand my fictional horizons i have not known hardly anybody in the last like, 10 matches.
“This is the one i am thinking of.”
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Yeah it was the second one around when he got the Other.
@Sauro
“My only experience with Aquaman is DCAU Aquaman. He is easily one of my favorite heroes.”
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I kinda prefer Pretty Boy Aquaman over Macho Barbarian Aquaman.
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@Lowk
“Aquaman is 3/4 of an avatar”
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Just to repost the relevant scans from that link:
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Earth Bending.
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Ice bending.
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Magic lightning bending.
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@Nsl
“I mean, the after effects destroyed several buildings:”
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Well… We don’t know if Peter had anything to do with the buildings destruction though,
Peter even emphasizes several times how “lucky” he was. That’s kinda the writers way of acknowledging the fight was PiS, Squirrel Girl style.
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@Shadow
“So, what would happen if Spidy managed to get that trident away from Aquaman and web it to the top of a building, would Spidy be agile enough to avoid A-man’s punches? If he can’t get the trident away, how fast is it when attacking?”
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Aquamans best speed feats are:
Leaping across buildings in a few seconds,
Swimming at hypersonic+
Out of water, he’s outmatched by Spiderman. Peters precog just makes that all the more relevant.
In water, he’s faster than Peter, but the precog might even it out.
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I don’t think Aquaman NEEDS his trident to beat Peter.
He’s physically strong enough to lift a cruise liner after all (with one hand, casually), which are about 40,000,000 kilos.
One good punch would still kill Spiderman.
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However, i do think Spidermans Mark of Kain would be able to rip Aquamans skin off. I’ll do a calc on that.
If i’m right, Spiderman has a chance at winning, eventually, striking Aquaman enough times without getting hit by a fist or trident.
Has Spidey ever fought Namor?
Namor and Spiderman have fought on many occasions. Namor seems to always come out on top after the typical “good showing”. Namor has also fought and beat Venom, although Venom ripped off his cute ankle wings: s-media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/85/ff/b6/85ffb6ef76e0e1082ae1ecc4735ceedc.jpg
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Aquaman is a league over Namor(And Namor is one of my most favored characters :(). I don’t see Spiderman doing more than a “good show” before Aquaman ends it.
@Jake
I don’t know should we count Batman in base form kicking the shit out of Spectre as him kicking the shit out of Spectre
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No, because he didn’t do anything but kick the Spectre. Spidey, on the other hand, fought FL for a whole day and several buildings went down as a result. That’s a feat for Spidey’s endurance and possibly durability.
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@Rag
Well… We don’t know if Peter had anything to do with the buildings destruction though,
Peter even emphasizes several times how “lucky” he was.
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Eh, ok on the building thing. Peter saying he’s lucky could also refer to him not being hit by FL. But I’m probably wrong, so whatever.
@Jake
Has Spidey ever fought Namor?
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Yes:
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So what kind of gadgets has spidey got at his lab? I recall seeing a lot of suit.
So what kind of gadgets has spidey got at his lab? I recall seeing a lot of suit.
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Pretty sure he has taser like webbing, along with some acid type webbing.
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‘Course, within a few months, Spidey could be getting some tech upgrades. Global Spider-Man and all that jazz.
So i just realised this site has no Aquaman vs The Submariner thread.
For shame BankGambling, for shame. (wags finger)
“So i just realised this site has no Aquaman vs The Submariner thread”
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We avoided it being the first and only Aquaman match. Now that we’ve established we’re edgy and different, unleash the horde of Aquaman vs Namor request.