Titans Vs Orbital Knights

Titans Vs Orbital Knights

Suggested by Will

Titan battle group of: 10 Imperial Knights (first time here), 6 Warhounds, 4 Reaver titans, 2 Warlord Titans and an Imperator Titan. All from Warhammer 40k will go up against the Orbital Knights (first time here) from Aldnoah.Zero including all known knights and their Kataphrakts, one landing castle is allowed and no air support other than those mechs capable of flight. Mechs include: The Dioscuria MK2, Scandia, Nilokeras, Hellas, Argyre, Electris, Elysium, Solis, Deucalion, Geryon, Tharsis, Herschel, Octantis, Ortygia (As fodder) Sirenum and the Acidalia.

Dimensional barriers work by transporting matter to a different dimension rather than destroying it as it is still debated where it goes. Note: Consuming a Dimensional Barrier equipped Kataphrakt and the ground they walk on with a large enough explosion will not be sufficient to destroy it as most of the energy will be absorbed elsewhere, the battle group commander must get around the barriers using tactics.

Unknown how Dimensional Barriers and Void Shields will interact if the Nilokeras strikes a titan, chances are it will pull the void shield away and absorb it but it is debatable.

Who will win?

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38 Comments on "Titans Vs Orbital Knights"

  1. Ninja Lowk July 13, 2015 at 12:06 am -      #1

    The hell is that thing on the right and how the hell does it move at all with all of those spikes and giant protrusions?

  2. pimpmage July 13, 2015 at 1:13 am -      #2

    From the single video I just looked up, aldnoah mechs seems to act just like mechs from pacific rim, but like a 1/5th the size. And just as slow. The one in this video only seems to be like 10-15m tall.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVvAzRiNNS0

    And a field of battle isn’t even listed here. Care to vote on something?

  3. Rookie July 13, 2015 at 1:56 am -      #3

    @pimpmage

    You heard about new Warlord Titan?

    “The colossal Mars pattern Warlord Titan is among the most ancient and feared of the Imperium’s war machines. Forged on the Red Planet itself, it is worshipped and venerated as the Omnissiah’s will incarnate, and each god-engine is encased in layered armour and powerful void shielding, and armed with weapons that are capable of reducing armies to ash.”

    “The Belicosa pattern Volcano cannon is one of the most potent energy weapons produced by the forges of the Mechanicum, short of the continent-razing guns mounted on the warships of the Imperialis Armada. It is a weapon so fearsome that only the plasma reactor of a mighty Warlord Titan can feed its ravenous appetite for power and make possible the destruction of the most terrible foes of Mankind. ”

    www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/MARS_ALPHA_PATTERN_WARLORD_TITAN.html

  4. pimpmage July 13, 2015 at 2:25 am -      #4

    I really love how horus heresy era titans were made to look like knights in shining armor waving their battle standards.

    vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/f/fc/Battle_Line_of_Imperial_Titans.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111016065247

  5. Commander Cross July 13, 2015 at 3:12 am -      #5

    I knew an Aldnoah.Zero-related match was gonna happen on this site sooner or later.

    I’d have thought it would have been against some factions from Attack on Titan instead though.

    Note to self: I really need to hurry up and finish Season 01 of Aldnoah.Zero and wonder how ht may fare in a given Super Robot Wars timeline or two.

    As for this fight at hand, it’s anyone’s game unless either side’s tacticians or strategists cock up BIG TIME or one side brings more Big Guns to the table than the other can dispose of.

    One thing I’d ask, how good is the Imperium’s Tactics and Strategies in Giant-Robot-vs-Giant-Robot Smackdowns?

  6. IdeaOfEvil July 13, 2015 at 5:43 am -      #6

    How much dakka can the 40k mechs shoot? Because one Kataphrakt can create copies of itself and if one copy survives, it can create copies of itself over and over again.

  7. Sauroposeidon July 13, 2015 at 7:55 am -      #7

    Aw man, I have no experience with Aldnoah, and as I don’t want spoilers I can’t participate in this. =(

  8. Rookie July 13, 2015 at 8:47 am -      #8

    @Sauroposeidon

    “Aw man, I have no experience with Aldnoah, and as I don’t want spoilers I can’t participate in this. =(”

    You can always watch the show and then come back.

  9. Belisaurius July 13, 2015 at 10:26 am -      #9

    If you summerize the OK’s firepower then even with the mass of Imperial Titans we see the Titans having more firepower ton for ton as well as tougher defenses.

    However, this overlooks the Aldnoah drive. All of the Orbital Knights have one and their purpose is to utterly destroy physics as we know them.

    The Elysium, for example, could super cool everything within a kilometer radius to the point of disabling electronics and turning metals superconductive(no, I don’t understand that bit either).

    The Deucallion in particular would be absolutely devastating to every single titan it comes in contact with as none of the titans have flight capability to deal with reversals of gravity.

    The Dimension Barrier, used on both the Dioscuria and the Nilokeras is particularly noteworthy as it doesn’t seem to have an upper limit. Void shields, on the other hand, are overwhelmed all the time.

    TL;DR
    The gamebreaking nature of the Aldnoah drive almost completely neutralizes the Titan’s massive firepower advantage.

  10. pimpmage July 13, 2015 at 10:29 am -      #10

    “One thing I’d ask, how good is the Imperium’s Tactics and Strategies in Giant-Robot-vs-Giant-Robot Smackdowns?”

    10,000 years of constant warfare sound like enough?

    “How much dakka can the 40k mechs shoot? Because one Kataphrakt can create copies of itself and if one copy survives, it can create copies of itself over and over again.”

    The bigger ones have tank killing point defense weapons that can, for all I know, alone solo these opposing mechanical mechs .

  11. the silent king July 13, 2015 at 5:23 pm -      #11

    I’m sort of leaning towards the titans because seem to have the superiority in every way. However the biggest problem for the Titans is that Aldnoah drive. That Very op

  12. pimpmage July 13, 2015 at 9:02 pm -      #12

    Ok, heres a scene. An entire planet’s biomass turned into flamable sludge. Billions of people and continental forests all reduced to this. The entire atmosphere is filled with flamable gas. Once ignited, the entire planet is wiped clean with firestorms. An imperator titan widstood that explosion without damage. I can quote it too.

  13. Super Combine July 13, 2015 at 10:12 pm -      #13

    ^
    Dies Irae from Galaxy in Flames right?

  14. Friendlysociopath July 13, 2015 at 10:26 pm -      #14

    An imperator titan widstood that explosion without damage. I can quote it too.

    Out of the whopping two 40K books I have; that would be one of them. To be fair though, a lot of regular shelters withstood that just as well so not sure it’s the best feat ever.

  15. pimpmage July 13, 2015 at 11:35 pm -      #15

    “To be fair though, a lot of regular shelters withstood that just as well so not sure it’s the best feat ever.”

    The shelters were underground in extremely thick doors. I’d say the the firestorm had way less of an effect on a couple sq meter door than it did on a 100m tall colossus standing in the middle of a wasteland with absolutely no cover.

    This was my fav quote from that book.

    ‘Sir!’ called one of the men, pointing out through the gun slit.
    Temeter saw a huge shadow dropping towards the horizon on pillars of retro-rocket fire, and then felt the earth tremble like a struck bell. Every Astartes in the bunker left the floor for a split second, and he heard the ferrocrete roof crack with the Shockwave. The cap¬tain peered out and saw a massive cylinder standing upright in a shroud of steam, some distance beyond the zone where the drop-pods had put down. It was easily the size of a hive-city habitat block, guidance fins still glowing cherry-red with the heat of re-entry. There came a mighty moan of stressed metals and the sides of the cylinder fell away, trailing flexible pipes and streams of white vapour. From inside the monstrous drop-capsule came the hooting call of a battle-horn, and then planes of steel and iron emerged from the smoke to become a colossus bristling with armour and guns. The ground resonated with each thunderous footfall as the Imperator-class Titan strode out towards the Choral City.

  16. the silent king July 14, 2015 at 5:42 pm -      #16

    I’ve been thinking and I’m pretty sure that void shields should not be affected by the dimensional barrier. Because they both work by transporting matter and energy into a different dimension. Please correct if I’m wrong I don’t no much about aldnoah zero

  17. pimpmage July 14, 2015 at 6:30 pm -      #17

    Void shield tech is like an onion. It has layers. You overload the first one, there is a second. While your firing at the second, the first one is regenerating. Imperator titans have like 8 layers. And yes, they do shunt energy and forces into another dimension.

  18. Belisaurius July 15, 2015 at 9:33 am -      #18

    @Pimpmage

    But that’s the thing. The Dimensional Barrier doesn’t overload and doesn’t have upper limits. A mech managed to walk right through a concrete apartment building without pause. Even Titans don’t do that.

  19. LethalGecko July 15, 2015 at 10:23 am -      #19

    Nice my match got posted very quickly, I wasn’t expecting that. You can find the sizes of some of the O.K Kataphrakts on the wiki. The smallest knight so far is the Argyre at 16.5M and the biggest by far are the Dioscuria and Deucalion at almost 40m each. I wonder what would happen if the Nilokeras (18m tall) walked into an Imperator Titan with its void shields up? The Nilokeras has a habit of destroying things by simply walking into it, although its weakness is landmines and water.

  20. LethalGecko July 15, 2015 at 10:39 am -      #20

    As I suggested this match i think the field of battle should be Tokyo city in Japan, middle of the day, both sides start on equal sides of the city. The O.K landing castle has landed behind their own lines, this is because landing the castle on top of the titan battle group is cheating and would wipe out most if not all the titans if they were close enough. At a distance of 2km Terran Kataphrakts (Which are just fodder mechs and nothing special (13m tall)) can withstand the blast but a direct hit from the castle landing itself could crush an Imperator titan (Landing castles are around 2km tall themselves)
    The commander of the Titan battle group is Creed in a baneblade super heavy tank.
    The commander of the O.K is Count Saazbaum in his Dioscuria.
    If it’s a stomp for the Knights then they lose the landing castle and the Orygia is limited to 100 copies of itself as fodder, not infinite.
    If it’s a stomp for the Titans then they lose Creed and he’s replaced by a standard Imperial commander.

  21. LethalGecko July 15, 2015 at 11:26 am -      #21

    A/Z reference videos:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cl-3jrChXU
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_g0FaIXbII
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=8obMGyKgP5A
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpJy-G4ETZk
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb3YrE-7ez0
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=urJhXjFt700
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAp2in0tp0o
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwOR-9Hp8CI
    (Spoilers but it should clear things up for those of you who haven’t watched Aldnoah.Zero)

  22. the silent king July 15, 2015 at 5:24 pm -      #22

    Going by the vids if a wall of plasma from a Titan’s cannon wouldn’t it go in the gaps like the water

    Not saying this would destroy the mech but it could disable it like in the vid and also creed would probably pick up on this. That is unless he hadn’t already hidden his baneblade inside of the mechs cockpit…

  23. LethalGecko July 15, 2015 at 6:26 pm -      #23

    I see what you did there XD And the water revealed the only gap below the arm since it was constantly being sucked in around it and they were looking for it at the same time, I don’t think in the heat of battle the Imperium will be able to figure it out, what with a whole city to hide in as well and it’s behind the arm, perhaps only the IKs and Warhounds can flank it since its very fast as well, the water made it pretty clear, unless of course Creed gets anime MC powers that enhance his deep striking abilities and deep strikes a Warlord inside the dimensional barrier. Or he teams up with Inaho Kaizuka and they go tactical genius together.
    If you thought the Nilokeras would be trouble try the Dioscuria who has the same barrier but flies, has rocket fists and beam katanas…

  24. pimpmage July 15, 2015 at 6:27 pm -      #24

    “But that’s the thing. The Dimensional Barrier doesn’t overload and doesn’t have upper limits.”

    That would be breaking our No Limits Fallacy rules. Judging by the second video in post 21, that shield was shown to be capable of blocking a bullet that had trouble destroying steel girders. Which is not saying much… at all.

    ” A mech managed to walk right through a concrete apartment building without pause. Even Titans don’t do that.”

    LOL what makes you say this? Dare I ask if you are making that up? Imperial titans are larger than apartment buildings and widstand forces that can blow up city blocks.

    “biggest by far are the Dioscuria and Deucalion at almost 40m each”

    Ok, cool. If those sizes are right, they would be about as big as the arm weapon mounts on an imperator titan. Also, that height would be just below the more common warlord class titan.

    “I wonder what would happen if the Nilokeras (18m tall) walked into an Imperator Titan with its void shields up? The Nilokeras has a habit of destroying things by simply walking into it, although its weakness is landmines and water.”

    Void shields do not block slow moving objects. Your mech would just crushed under the titan’s foot. Also, I have yet to see those shields tank much of anything in the first 4 videos so far.

    ” (Which are just fodder mechs and nothing special (13m tall)) can withstand the blast but a direct hit from the castle landing itself could crush an Imperator titan”

    Why do you keep talking about the landing castle if you yourself just said that it was already landed when this match begins? Its irrelevant. Also, can you prove that bit about fodder widstanding city level explosions? The videos I see show mechs getting disintigrated by lightning blasts and pierced by bullets.

    “If it’s a stomp for the Knights then they lose the landing castle and the Orygia is limited to 100 copies of itself as fodder, not infinite.”

    What exactly does this landing castle do while it’s already landed? Also, you have yet to tell us how these copies work. Another thing, nothing is infinite, certainly not these mech copies you talk about which I have yet to see anything about.

    “If it’s a stomp for the Titans then they lose Creed and he’s replaced by a standard Imperial commander.”

    Creed is just as good as any other veteran imperial commander in existence. He is only distinguished in that he has a name and backstory. But if you are going off of his tabletop abilities… he can literally make the imperator titan appear inside your asshole.
    i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu49/BrandonCracker/CREED1.jpg

    “Going by the vids if a wall of plasma from a Titan’s cannon wouldn’t it go in the gaps like the water”

    Literally any titan weapon, down the the lowest warhound has weapons that effect the area around beams by heat alone.

    Turbo-lasers are known to be very destructive to the surrounding environment, capable of penetrating through the ground down to the bedrock and leaving behind long gouges of fused earth. In urban environments their scorching emissions have shivered tiles off roofs and shattered windows at their passing, and an entire block-row of buildings can be leveled in one sweep of these weapons. Against lesser foes turbo-lasers have been known to cause infantry to ignite and evaporate almost instantly. Even passing just a few meters overhead will sear the meat off the bone of exposed troopers. Turbo-lasers will also punch right through the armour of Battle Tanks, tearing them in two and disintegrating them with a single shot. Imperial super-heavy tanks will also be destroyed by a single blast, though it may take scant seconds to melt through their frontal armour. However the Void Shields of even a Warhound Scout Titan allow it to survive multiple hits from a turbo-laser.

  25. LethalGecko July 15, 2015 at 6:45 pm -      #25

    Um, i think you’re being a bit aggressive towards me could you please tone it down a little. Please watch the videos and they should explain how many of the Kataphrakts work. Dimensional barriers block anything and everything regardless of strength by moving it to another dimension, it’s as if you’re shooting into a black hole. The task remains: the imperial commander must find a way around it, if they manage to knock the Nilokeras over on its back then it will burrow to the earth’s core where it will get overwhelmed and destroyed, however I don’t know how they would manage that. There is also a lot of other equally troublesome Kats to face such as the Ortygia who can in fact produce infinite copies of itself so long as one remains because all copies are the original, as it was mentioned before the Aldnoah Drive breaks physics and what not.
    Also imperial titans are not that big, the Nilokeras is around the size of a Warhound or a Reaver at 18m. Imperial Knights are dwarfed even by terran kats. I’d also like to add that if you watch closely in the videos, the Nilokeras requires floating cameras to see as light can not pass through the other side of the barrier (It’s got a holographic image)They’re football sized i believe or a bit bigger.

  26. pimpmage July 15, 2015 at 6:56 pm -      #26

    “Um, i think you’re being a bit aggressive towards me could you please tone it down a little. ”

    You made claims that were outright lies. I am not ok with this. Nobody would be. That is not how we debate here.

    “Please watch the videos and they should explain how many of the Kataphrakts work. ”

    I watched 4 videos. I don’t have the time for this. You should be explaining this stuff just as much as you prove it. I will not bend over backwards to take in an hour worth of media that you do not want to TLDR.

    “Dimensional barriers block anything and everything regardless of strength by moving it to another dimension, it’s as if you’re shooting into a black hole. ”

    This is what we call a No Limits Fallacy.

    10. No Limit Fallacy
    This is a phenomena associated with elements that by being poorly understood are erroneously extrapolated to infinity. While not a rule in of itself, BankGambling does not recognize a No Limit element as a means of automatic victory. Only the instances that can be proven regarding these No Limit elements will be considered for a final victory, while subsequent speculation on what the element in question may or may not be ultimately capable of may be ignored.

    “. The task remains: the imperial commander must find a way around it”

    Nearly every titan weapon has large AOE effects. If the vaguely described shields have weak spots where matter can get inside, then those mechs are screwed. That is easily done by weapons firing at targets. Not imperial commander strategy.

    “There is also a lot of other equally troublesome Kats to face such as the Ortygia who can in fact produce infinite copies of itself so long as one remains because all copies are the original, as it was mentioned before the Aldnoah Drive breaks physics and what not.”

    Nothing is infinite. Once again, refer to the NLF rules of this site. We go by best capabilities. If these things copy up to 100 at a time, that is their set limit forever. No more. Because they have never been shown to do more than that.

    “Also imperial titans are not that big”

    Imperator titans are 100m tall. Warlords are 50-60m. Warhounds are like 14m-20m.

  27. LethalGecko July 15, 2015 at 6:56 pm -      #27

    Titan sizes vary greatly in canon so some are smaller and some are bigger than the Kataphrakts, most are though but size isn’t everything. Stepping on the Nilokeras will lose you your foot and then the rest of your titan when you fall over.

  28. pimpmage July 15, 2015 at 7:03 pm -      #28

    “Stepping on the Nilokeras will lose you your foot and then the rest of your titan when you fall over.”

    Heres the thing. You make a claim that something will happen. You don’t say how or why it happens. You don’t even think to take the titan’s armor or shield capabilities into account. All you do is leave me with a dozen questions when you say vague statements like this.

  29. LethalGecko July 15, 2015 at 7:04 pm -      #29

    Excuse me where have I lied? And just because the barrier can absorb anything does not make it unbeatable nor unlimited, because it was beaten, the fact it was beaten begs the question why should this limit even be imposed if it doesn’t supply an automatic win? That’s quoting your post by the way ‘automatic win’.
    And please show me some common courtesy, the same one that I’m showing you otherwise I’m not going to debate with you which is what you want. The Ortygia will also be limited to 100 copies as it does break that no limit rule unlike the barrier since the way they defeated the Ortygia was pretty silly and when hundreds of clones are scattered throughout Tokyo there’s no beating them unless you nuke everything.
    Armor doesn’t help when it gets sucked into another dimension, durability is not a factor. If you were capable of stepping on it then it would already be inside the shield, imagination is required for a force and technology that is not as well explained as 40k’s.

  30. pimpmage July 15, 2015 at 7:13 pm -      #30

    “Excuse me where have I lied?”

    When you said this, as I directly quoted you saying on a previous post. I am hereby posting this quote of you for the second time. You say titans don’t do that. This is a lie.

    “A mech managed to walk right through a concrete apartment building without pause. Even Titans don’t do that.”

    “and just because the barrier can absorb anything does not make it unbeatable nor unlimited,”

    Yes, it does. That is why you don’t say ‘anything’, when that is clearly not the truth.

    “he fact it was beaten begs the question why should this limit even be imposed”

    Because a limit was not supplied by you besides extrapolating to infinity like you did with the clones.

    “And please show me some common courtesy, the same one that I’m showing you otherwise I’m not going to debate with you which is what you want. ”

    What common coutesy? I am responding to every point you make and clearly quote everything. Is it not easy to read and respond to stuff I say? Am I cussing you out or calling you bad names? No?

    “The Ortygia will also be limited to 100 copies”

    As you posted the limit to before, which I am ok with.

    ” unlike the barrier”

    I have seen no extreme limit to these barriers yet. I saw them block bullets that struggled to break through bridge girders. Which is not an extreme feat. I wan’t to see or hear you say they have done much better than that.

  31. LethalGecko July 15, 2015 at 7:17 pm -      #31

    “Why do you keep talking about the landing castle if you yourself just said that it was already landed when this match begins? Its irrelevant. Also, can you prove that bit about fodder widstanding city level explosions? The videos I see show mechs getting disintigrated by lightning blasts and pierced by bullets.”
    The castle has guns and it can overlook most of the city, if you want me to dig up the start of an episode where a castle lands near a city and the kataphrakts are about 2km away then sure I can do that but you don’t want to watch them so, yeah that’s that, you’re going to have to take my word for it. I haven’t lied at all, if you want to debate this properly then look it up and do your own research but you don’t seem to want to do that so i can’t properly debate it with you, however the objective still remains: Who wins?

  32. LethalGecko July 15, 2015 at 7:19 pm -      #32


    When you said this, as I directly quoted you saying on a previous post. I am hereby posting this quote of you for the second time. You say titans don’t do that. This is a lie.

    “A mech managed to walk right through a concrete apartment building without pause. Even Titans don’t do that.”

    Re-read that, that was not me, i’m starting to wonder if it’s worth debating this if you missed that.
    The barrier blocked a wave of missiles, walked through a building and for example if you fired a nuke at it the bomb itself would be absorbed, the same goes for whatever you threw at it; it simply absorbs.
    And if I’m understanding this correctly then the no limit rule is only implemented if the thing in question would supply an auto win situation which it does not. It clearly states in the original post that the barrier absorbs with no stated limit either, there are other things to debate as well.

  33. pimpmage July 15, 2015 at 7:25 pm -      #33

    “I can do that but you don’t want to watch them so”

    I will watch them. But you need to tell me what I am looking out for. Just posting 10 different videos and telling us to watch all of them is not fun. At least give us a sentence and a time stamp range of what we need to look at. That is all we can reasonably ask. I’d do the same for you if there were videos of titan’s doing stuff, but they all reside in books. It’s much harder for me to find and pull feats than it is for you.

    “if you want to debate this properly then look it up and do your own research but you don’t seem to want to do that so i can’t properly debate it with you, ?”

    I am already doing the job of looking up tons of stuff for the imperial titans. I really do not want to do this, AND look up tons and tons of stuff for a series I am not at all familiar with.

    “however the objective still remains: Who wins”

    The only things that are currently holding off a 40k victory are the mech clones and the castle IMO. Keep in mind, it’s IMO, and not factual. I don’t know how fast those mechs can clone. And from the video I saw, if I am looking at it correctly, those thing were only slowly walking along while only having CQC weapon attachments. And the castle, well… does it have shields? What kinda firepower does it’s guns have?

    “would supply an auto win situation which it does not”

    No, if something does not have a definitive limit, we go by best feats. Or whatever the most damage it’s taken before, is now it’s upper limit.

    “Re-read that, that was not me, i’m starting to wonder if it’s worth debating this if you missed that.”

    My bad, but I really appreciate this passive aggressiveness I’ve been getting from you.

  34. LethalGecko July 15, 2015 at 7:29 pm -      #34

    I can’t supply a whole universe’s information but i was assuming that you knew more about 40k than i had anticipated so fair enough, we’re getting back to the actual debate though. However the quote you said i lied about was not me.
    Sorry but i was just responding to what i saw as nitpicking and what i considered fairly rude but it’s ok, i’d rather have a good debate than argue over everything. How about we reset the aggressiveness and start with an open mind? Then we can get down to details and what not

  35. pimpmage July 15, 2015 at 7:35 pm -      #35

    ” i was assuming that you knew more about 40k than i had anticipated so fair enough”

    I know tons of stuff about 40k. Titans though, they are a really small topic compared to all the other overwhelmingly large topics that exist in the 40k verse. Of all the published lore that exists, maybe only 2% of that revolves around titans. Somebody like Rookie or Sauro could probably explain them better.

    “Sorry but i was just responding to what i saw as nitpicking and what i considered fairly rude”

    Nitpicking is how debates are handled. Every positive claim is looked at. Nothing is trusted at face value unless it is pretty common knowledge on this site.

  36. LethalGecko July 15, 2015 at 7:36 pm -      #36

    I can’t seem to find the video of the kats tanking the shock wave, the blast itself leveled a city (at least the first one did from ep1, it took out New Orleans) but the kats were only hit by the force from a good distance away. The blast was akin to a nuke, in fact, and i may be mistaken, the tips of the landing pillar are loaded with war heads.
    And fair enough, that makes sense, also i’m not allowed to say who i think would win because i suggested it so it would seem biased but i play 40k (The Minotaurs) and one of my favorite anime is A/Z

  37. pimpmage July 15, 2015 at 7:51 pm -      #37

    “And fair enough, that makes sense, also i’m not allowed to say who i think would win”

    Nothing is stopping you from saying your opinion of who would win. The difference is if you actually claim victory in some way, that would require explanation.

    ” but i play 40k (The Minotaurs)”

    I have maybe like 40+ books on 40k fluff. No tabletop rule books though, not my thing. My fav anime is One Piece. My fav fiction is 40k.

  38. LethalGecko July 15, 2015 at 9:01 pm -      #38

    I looked up the standard Terran Kataphrakt gun and it’s 75mm AP rounds and HE rounds, HE seems to me to be akin to a vulcan mega bolter round while AP seems to be a slightly weaker autocannon although their rate of fire is pretty fast, they’re essentially tank grade guns.
    Personally if the dimensional barriers work by just absorbing things regardless then it’s the Orbital Knights who will win, also the Ortygia will be a massive pain as you won’t be able to destroy them all when they have the city for cover. The landing castles have standard missiles and the armor is strong enough to withstand a nuclear scale landing impact, but certain clans of knights possess a different tech specialty except Count Saazbaum who has three, his Dioscuria is the top dog and extremely OP, the only reason he was beaten is because he possessed all three techs that the MC had previously worked around and beaten, like the barrier, he then dismantled each tech, it also flies and transforms like a Mega-Zord. It also has machine guns and rockets because it hasn’t got everything already, rocket fists, dimensional barrier and beam katanas that slice through asteroids 50m across, and space flight.

    Baron Trillram is the dimensional barrier guy who is only threatened by teenagers, water and landmines. One thing to note is that when the Nilokeras falls into the water, it appears to get overwhelmed and thus stunned by the masses of matter being absorbed.

    Count Rafia has invisibility that can only be detected by smoke screens, radar and sensors can’t pick up her Scandia. She has an explosive crossbow that poses little threat to a shielded titan. She can also share her invisibility.

    The Electris uses, well, electricity.

    The Acidalia is perhaps the most dangerous and i forgot all about it, it can fire four foot long darts loaded with what i believe (the manga is vague) are nanobots that hack into and take over machinery, when the void shields are down they can potentially slave an Imperator titan to their will, the manga A/Z Twin Gemini is where it appears in and it takes control of hundreds of those fodder kats the terrans use and it can transform into a firing mode where it can fire an energy beam that literally erased a whole mountain in one hit.

    One count (i forgot his name) and his clan possess lasers that can level a city, his landing castle uses it as well as his kataphrakt.

    Count Baroucruz’s kataphrakt the Octantis essentially uses yoyos with superconductive wires that sliced an asteroid about 50m across in half, it also flies and is heavily armored for space combat.

    Count Marylcian and his Herschel has, i think, 30 laser lances that fly with him (he’s space flight capable) and has a laser rifle of his own, I’d say it is similar to a lascannon.

    The Tharsis of Count Cruhteo/Slaine Troyard has flight capabilities, twin bladed shields with machine guns and a future predicting AI that allows him to dodge pretty much anything, although it can be hit, the Herschel with 30 laser lances all shooting him at once constantly for a good 8 minutes hit him only once from memory.

    The Geryon of Count Keteratesse can create energy whips, he only poses a threat to imperial knights and medium titans that get too close, he will die instantly if out in the open which is a shame because his name is the best.

    The Sirenum of Count Mazuurek produces a hurricane of gravity which can wear down and blitz the fodder mechs if they get too close, solid projectiles are infective but gravity can still effect lasers but to what extent i don’t know.

    The Deucalion of Viscountess Orlane is massive and tripedal with an even more potent gravity field that also lets it float, it was flipping entire Abram tank battle groups like they were toys and blowing them up. It also has guns i believe, it was destroyed when plot intervened and the moon blew up which crashed it’s gravity device and killed it.

    The Hellas of Count Femianne has six rocket propelled fists named after Goetian demons. When the fist is closed they operate as a single molecule and are thus indestructible to anything that is not capable of splitting atoms. it can also operate from many kilometers away and remote control the six fists simultaneously. The fists are bigger than the fodder mechs.

    The Argyre is the one with the swords that Sir Vlad pilots, it has beam katana’s that can: ‘cut through any armor in existence’ as he says, but they seem to shear clean through everything he touches so i wouldn’t argue with him. He blocks bullets via the beam but energy weapons will ruin him so he’ll need to use cover.

    The Frozen Elysium of Baron Yacoym produces a 1km radius entropic dilation field which saps all molecular motion from anything in the vicinity, projectiles are deflected via the meisner effect. It has no weapons but fodder mechs froze in about 8-10 seconds. Obviously it will go solo and just walk at the enemy so it doesn’t freeze it’s fellow knights.

    All this information is remembered and not double checked, however i’m certain 95% of what i’ve just said is true, the specific numbers may not be exact but i’ve written a 30k word fanfiction on A/Z (Don’t judge) so i kind of have to know what I’m talking about. As for the Titans, most of you know what titans can do but are nowhere near as versatile as the Orbital Knights are, however they pack a stupidly greater amount of firepower than the knights, although i think the sheer diversity and power of the Aldnoah Drive could secure victory for the Knights.

    Use this information and debate!

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