You asked for it, so here it is:
Set up any scenario you want, if you think any of the combatants would pair up or not – The question is, between Kratos, Master Chief, Superman, Lobo, Kharn, Cyrpto 137, Goku and Chuck Norris, who emerges from this epic match? and most importantly, HOW DO THEY DO IT?
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Supes is an alien, Lobo is an alien, Crypto is an alien, MC is a superhuman, Kratos is a demigod, Goku is an alien, Kharn is an alien, and Chuck is…a man?
CHUCK NORRIS FOR FPA
@NEGATIVE-ZERO
kratos has a time duplicate thus two half mans equal one man!
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back in the running*
@Dr. Doctor
their are two kratos’ both a half man
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you do the math!
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kratos is in it 200% XD
No, Kratos isn’t a man. No man is the son of Zeus.
@Dr. Doctor
two demigods =one man and one god
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kratos is a bada$$ man.
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ive got a few cutscenes in gow where hes been called a “man”
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GG
Superman is the “Man” of Steel, remember? So if we’re going by what they are called, Supes is back in to tear Kratos a new one.
And now, a demigod is just one or two steps below God, not “Half-God half-human”.
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That must have been an awesome issue!
“That must have been an awesome issue! ”
-It was.
@mrgendrons
Do you not realize how much stupidity is in your arguments right now?
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@Teal
That looks like a hell of an issue.
Also, what’s with the 2 Kratos’ shit?
“Also, what’s with the 2 Kratos’ shit?”
-Something about how they’d equal a god or something.
@Dr. Doctor
a man of steel isnt a real man is it?
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and if were using title no as fact kratos is:death the destroyer of worlds,the ghost of sparta,god slayer and the god of war
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thus by titles kratos trumps and by the fact supes dosen contain a lick of human dna nor the right organs(yeah hes an alien remeber?)
@NEGATIVE-ZERO
thanks to god of war 2′s messd up time travel stuff their are technicaly two kratos,gow2 and 3 plus BankGambling staes we use the chronological most recent
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both exsist at the same time thus both.
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can beat the smartass awnser can you?
That’s a lot of nice titles, and the fact he was a God means he isn’t a man anymore.
Also, no time fuckery. Unless both Kratos’ are known to work together in canon.
@Dr. Doctor
“on this day the man the legend kratos will have his revenge”
gow3 opening by narrator mode gaia
“can beat the smartass awnser can you?”
You really don’t know who you’re talking to huh?
Holy shit! This thread is climbing up the POPULAR POSTS like crazy!
@Rhododendrons:
You say that, I say “Man of Steel” and bam, Supes wins.
“I don’t think we can use feats of the old universe unless New52 specifically makes a reference to those exploits. Does Batman ever recall all his history, or is he just set up in a new story with some of the same character traits?”
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From what I could scrounge up, nope. Though there seems to be several comics for Batman so maybe one of those is redoing the origin stroy for N52 like everyone else. So I geuss they really are completely redoing everything.
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“Possibly, hope someone does respect threads for feats though cause I’ll probably never hear about them otherwise”
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The only one I found was for the action comic part, but that’s past weaker/nonflying supes and I don’t think it even keeping up to date. So were probably going to be waiting a while.
“a man of steel isnt a real man is it?”
-It’s a figure of speech wise ass.
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Kratos is the “Ghost of Sparta”, but last I checked he was alive.
“thanks to god of war 2′s messd up time travel stuff their are technicaly two kratos,gow2 and 3 plus BankGambling staes we use the chronological most recent”
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You really don’t know what a time loop is, do you?
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There’s only one Kratos. That’s the same Kratos in GoW2 and GoW3. When Kratos came back to his old self at the end of GoW2, that Kratos DIED at the hands of Zeus. He would then do all that just to travel to the Loom Chamber again, and do the exact same events which lead to the same event (GoW3). That is an example of a stable time loop, as there is no contradiction. Kratos was already dead at the beginning so he couldn’t see that his future self was standing a few feet away from Zeus. Additionally, Kratos charged for Zeus after his past self already died due to the Blade of Olympus. There is only one Kratos. Also, Kratos can’t time travel. That was disproven a page ago. Your supposed rebuttal was just a bullshit attempt to defy canon events, and cherry picking the things that favor your side. If I may add, the things you brought up are the very things that canon has already disproven. Once again, stop making up feats for Kratos.
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As for the “man” title, that is irrelevant, as that is not the point of the match. You are once again attributing things to titles. In this case, it is the title of the match, not the actual point as it is a battle to the death as per the rules.
“As for the “man” title, that is irrelevant, as that is not the point of the match. You are once again attributing things to titles. In this case, it is the title of the match, not the actual point as it is a battle to the death as per the rules.”
-Last Man Standing matches are the last man: on his feet, conscious, and ,if dire enough, yes alive.
mrgendrons: You’re wrong because my argument invalidates what you say!
Me: Do you have any evidence to back it up?
mrgendrons: There is no evidence
Me: Actually here are sources A, B and C that contradict what you say
mrgendrons: Thats not true because it invalidates my opinion!
Me: Do you have any evidence to prove it wrong?
mrgendrons: No, but I can continue to add slander and conjecture to see if i can make my point seem more validated
Me: Good for you
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Does this sum it up?
“Thats not true because it devalues my opinion!”
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Fixed
Opinion is kicked to the Curb when there are no facts to back it up. AGAIN I say IT IS BankGambling!
@tau
What do you think of my analysis on post #2625?
@tau43
exaclly and like only half even make the man criteria….
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chuck norris,MC,kratos an khran
@StealthRanger
facts are all of the”strong guys” fail to meet the “man” criteria thus disqaulifide
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“on this day the man the legend kratos will have his revenge”
@theobserver
by zeus speech kratos wasnt dead yet if you saw the cutscene of kratos’s death thus yeah gow2 kratos saw gow3 kratos start fighting zeus.
“facts are all of the”strong guys” fail to meet the “man” criteria thus disqaulifide”
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Cherry picking, once more. Let me smash that for you. Here’s the battle description at the top of the page:
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“The question is, between Kratos, Master Chief, Superman, Lobo, Kharn, Cyrpto 137, Goku and Chuck Norris, who emerges from this epic match? and most importantly, HOW DO THEY DO IT?”
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See that? Nowhere in that description that it say that only humans are qualified to take a win.
“facts are all of the”strong guys” fail to meet the “man” criteria thus disqaulifide”
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You do realise that was a joke?
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““on this day the man the legend kratos will have his revenge””
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Thank you for posting something that has no bearing w/o plot armor
“@StealthRanger
facts are all of the”strong guys” fail to meet the “man” criteria thus disqaulifide
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“on this day the man the legend kratos will have his revenge””
-It’s a figure of speech damn it!
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“@tau
What do you think of my analysis on post #2625?”
-Good.
@tau43
exactly supes aint a man but an alien hes out
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kratos fact pile award! on grounds none of the “tough guys” have the “man” critieria
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should of been last “one” stand or alive…..
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ah too bad maybe next time
“@tau43
exactly supes aint a man but an alien hes out”
-Do you know what a figure of speech is?
!@tau43
kratos is cannonly a demigod thus half man,their are two kratos by fu*ked up time paradoxes in gow2
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kratos=last MAN standing
“Good.”
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What it sound like in my mind considering hes spouting the same things over and over again
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“exactly supes aint a man but an alien hes out”
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Oh for fucks sake its a figure of speech!
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Otherwise they wouldn’t be in this fight!
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“ah too bad maybe next time”
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Dumbass *redirects you to post #2625*
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Admin, i call for a temporary lockdown
“by zeus speech kratos wasnt dead yet if you saw the cutscene of kratos’s death thus yeah gow2 kratos saw gow3 kratos start fighting zeus.”
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Kratos died with the exact same injuries at the start of the game and died. With the sword taken away from him, he would have a gaping hole in his chest and would eventually bleed to death, if not dying exactly like he did at the beginning. Cherry picking once again.
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Do you have any canon to back up what you are saying, or is it again another case where it is simply your conjecture?
“kratos is cannonly a demigod thus half man,their are two kratos by fu*ked up time paradoxes in gow2″
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observer refuted it
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Are you even reading peoples posts?
@tau43
its poorly worded thus open to interpretation
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“Set up any scenario you want, if you think any of the combatants would pair up or not – The question is, between Kratos, Master Chief, Superman, Lobo, Kharn, Cyrpto 137, Goku and Chuck Norris, who emerges from this epic match? and most importantly, HOW DO THEY DO IT?”
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its way to blunt and easily interpratated for kratos victory
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should have been :”last “one” standing/alive if they wanna be technical
“!@tau43
kratos is cannonly a demigod thus half man,their are two kratos by fu*ked up time paradoxes in gow2″
-If he’s a demigod he’s not Human, therefore, by your logic, not a “Man”
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Answer Do you know what a figure of speech is?
@observer
Is it just me, or did he actually ‘win’ any debates? Or did he just claim victory once people got tired of his bullshit and left?
@StealthRanger
“observer refuted it”
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i just retorted it see 2631.
“Answer Do you know what a figure of speech is?”
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No because hes a dumbass from YT, so im not surprised
“i just retorted it see 2631.”
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Conjecture. Thats all i really have to say!
@theobserver
gow2 kratos didnt say the line:you will pay for this zeus be sertain of that.
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overuled!
“should have been :”last “one” standing/alive if they wanna be technical”
-I last man standing is an accepted term for this match type, and you are grasping a straws.
“gow2 kratos didnt say the line:you will pay for this zeus be sertain of that.”
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Do you have ANY idea what the fuck you’re saying?!
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And yes Kratos did say that. Theres only ONE Kratos, conjecture aside of course
“@theobserver
gow2 kratos didnt say the line:you will pay for this zeus be sertain of that.”
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…That is besides the point…another non-sequitur on your part. So what if Zeus didn’t say that part? By the time future Kratos got there, all Zeus had to do was pull out the Blade of Olympus. Kratos did that himself to use against Zeus, therefore Kratos pulled the final blow needed to kill past-him. That Kratos would still die of the same injuries. The event of Zeus telling him whatever does not affect his injury in any way whatsoever.
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Stop using words such as overruled if all you spout in return is bullshit in the face of fact.
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@StealthRanger
On any debate, there must be an assumption that the person you are debating with is rational and has a firm grasp of the English language. That is called the Principle of Charity. Since mr.gendrons 2.0 has repeatedly proven his ineptitude in the face of debate, I say we reserve the right to simply move on. The facts speak for themselves, and no amount of bullshit will change that. I honestly don’t even know why I continue to entertain this person. His rebuttals don’t even demonstrate the ability to scratch our evidence, indeed all they do is strengthen our arguments all the more.
I move to ignore 2.0.
@observer
Well the guys from YouTube so his grammar and debating ability suck so… yeah
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His arguments consist of:
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Argumentum ad nauseum
Burden of Proof
Non-Sequiter
Association fallacy
Argument from ignorance
Argument from incredulity
Argument from belief
Half-truth
False dichotomy
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Theres probably more
@theobserver
zeus also didnt kill that whole army with one slash and kratos died after that. plus with zeus busy fighting gow3 kratos he couldn’t have attacked Sparta…..
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time duplicate freind
“zeus also didnt kill that whole army with one slash and kratos died after that. plus with zeus busy fighting gow3 kratos he couldn’t have attacked Sparta…..”
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Non-sequiter. Kratos would still die after his injuries. Besides, Poseidon’s death at GoW3 would wipe out Sparta anyway, so that new timeline is dead. It is not a time duplicate. Kratos simply went back in time and relived the same events as the beginning by preventing something else. In his previous timeline, Zeus has won, since Kratos has moved into this timeline, and has left that timeline with the gods, and no Kratos. Kratos in the new timeline is the one that stepped out of the Loom Chamber, while the old Kratos died of his injuries. That means that in the two timelines (future Kratos’ old one and the one he went into), there is only one living Kratos.
@tau43
you your self gave its discription
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-Last Man Standing matches are the last man: on his feet, conscious, and ,if dire enough, yes alive.- @tau43
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you debunked your self right their……
“@tau43
you your self gave its discription
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-Last Man Standing matches are the last man: on his feet, conscious, and ,if dire enough, yes alive.- @tau43
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you debunked your self right their……”
-*Sigh* Man was being used as a term for all of the participants. And since Kratos is a Demigod, he’s not human, he’s a half-god.
@theobserver
the last spartan thus died because of the flood/plauge.
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of a mater of fact the flood should of seriously fu*ked kratos over in gow2……lol
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he still fought his way out of the underworld otherwise paradox bud and the gow verse goes boom.
@tau43
“-*Sigh* Man was being used as a term for all of the participants. And since Kratos is a Demigod, he’s not human, he’s a half-god.”
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so women are “men” lobo who’s asexual is a “man”
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kratos is half human bud so he counts otherwise i could bring up the two kratos’ paradox.
Rhododendrons, you make me laugh.
Not every alteration of time causes a paradox. As long as a person doesn’t meet their trans-temporal counterpart, the timeline stays relatively normal.
Also, please stop arguing on technicalities. It’s dumb, overused, and no one appreciates it.
I do wonder if 2.0 actually won any debates, or whether he just claimed victory after everyone got tired of his dumbass bullshit and left
@Dr. Doctor
gow3 kratos saw himself dying and dying gow2 kratos saw gow3 kratos start to fight zeus=PARADOX
“so women are “men” lobo who’s asexual is a “man”
—– In this match, yes
“kratos is half human bud so he counts otherwise i could bring up the two kratos’ paradox.”
-But is not human therefore out of the running.
“he still fought his way out of the underworld otherwise paradox bud and the gow verse goes boom.”
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You have nothing to say that more recent Kratos fought his way through the underworld. For all we know, that old Kratos could also be stuck in the River Styx without anything to help him whatsoever. To assume otherwise would be baseless conjecture since the creators have never specified anything for that specific Kratos. That timeline now features past-Kratos, which led to the events of GoW3.
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That is not a paradox. That is merely a change of events culminating in a stable time loop. In the two possible time-lines intuited by the end of GoW2, there is one where Kratos no longer exists (as he jumped into the portal), and one which led to GoW3. In that same timeline you have a dead Kratos, whose soul could very well stuck in the River Styx since there is nothing to say otherwise. In that verse, the gods already have one Kratos to deal with, and the Titans are fighting with one already. Why would they even think of bringing another one to trouble them?
Also, in this case, there is no guarantee both temporal versions are exactly the same. For all we know, Kratos in Timeline 1 is:
1/4 Human, 3/4 God
And in timeline 2
2/4 Human, 2/4 God
In such case, combined we have 3/8 human and 5/8 God, still more God than human, still out.
Prove to me he’s identical in both timelines. Prove to me he can interact trans-temporally with himself. Prove to everyone you’re not trolling.
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-I again move to ignore 2.0.
Well said
Temp Lock then if an award is given, Supes for FPA.
@Dr.
Agreed.
I would just like to remind everyone that Mata has already warned about locking this thread if further unsubstantiated evidence is presented. I suggest we act accordingly and heed the warning.
Good night all. Except 2.0, you can have nightmares for all I care.
As long as Rhododendrons is here, we’re going to keep getting flooded with unsubstantiated evidence. I say lock it to preserve some shadow of integrity to the thread.
Congratulations. This debate earned a lock on the sole account of it being nauseating.
Yes, lock it so the previous, more deserving, top threads can resume their status, given enough work to put them there.