Superman Vs Luffy

Superman Vs Luffy

Suggested by Jake_Uzumaki

Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) will go up against Superman (DC)

Battle takes place in New York Harbor, after a misunderstanding with port authorities, a cargo ship, a box of meat, a large canister of barbecue sauce and a kangaroo, Superman (Superman the animated series-Justice League Unlimited) shows up to check out the commotion. Mistaking Luffy for a pirate themed Supervillain he insists the young man stop his antics. Luffy tells the man of steel to buzz off and the big blue boy scout takes that about as well as you’d expect and goes to stop Luffy by force.

Man of Steel vs Man of Rubber, will Superman overcome Straw Hat?

Or is Luffy rubber and Superman glue?

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140 Comments on "Superman Vs Luffy"

  1. Amm0vamp1r3 May 15, 2015 at 1:03 am -      #1

    How well does luffy stand up to heat and cold?

  2. Nsl98 May 15, 2015 at 1:07 am -      #2

    0:37
    Dodging AA fire, also shows that he keeps up with leg day:

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=1klIEDS5EHw

    ——–

    18:00
    Supergirl, who’s weaker than Supes, is able to fly through meteors with ease. Sulerman is also able to prevent a bigger meteor from hitting Earth:

    pollystreaming.com/Superman-The-Animated-Series-Season-3-Episode-5-Little-Girl-Lost-Part-2-of-2_v18028

  3. Rookie May 15, 2015 at 1:08 am -      #3

    @Amm0vamp1r3

    “How well does luffy stand up to heat ”

    Not well guy who was made of lava nearly killed him.

    “and cold?”

    Another guy who was made of ice freeze Luffy with ease.

  4. Friendlysociopath May 15, 2015 at 1:12 am -      #4

    This appears to be animated Superman btw- just in case anyone missed it; it’s in the description.

    And so help me if someone brings up Conquerer’s Haki I will lose my shit.

  5. Nsl98 May 15, 2015 at 1:13 am -      #5

    Battle takes place in New York Harbor, after a misunderstanding with port authorities, a cargo ship, a box of meat, a large canister of barbecue sauce and a kangaroo

    ^lol, and would like to know more.

    @Rookie
    Isn’t that Superman different from the other DCAU Supes?

    As I understood it, there was DCAU: Movies, then there were DCAU tv shows (Batman, Superman, Static, JL), which was the one specified.

  6. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 1:22 am -      #6

    “Not well guy who was made of lava nearly killed him.”

    That was an extremely weak beat up luffy vs one of the strongest people in the series…

    Another guy who was made of ice freeze Luffy with ease.

    Once again, one of the strongest people in the series vs luffy at an extremely early part of the series.

    “And so help me if someone brings up Conquerer’s Haki I will lose my shit.”

    Conquerors…
    Hak…i…

    And with that video rookie posted, superman mentions his speed was mach 7. Luffy has movement speeds and reaction times several dozen times that. And are his eye beams actually light speed?

    Another thing, that same video showed him being resistant to an extreme amount of energy. Is that because the villain used suns to try to hit superman? Superman being powered up by suns and all?

    And one last thing. Armament haki allows the user to his the ‘true self’ of the receiver. Would this count as EC to bypass supe’s extreme damage resistance?

  7. Nsl98 May 15, 2015 at 1:32 am -      #7

    @Pimp
    That’s the wrong DCAU Supes. The one in Rookie’s video is from the animated movies verse.

    Superman (Superman the animated series-Justice League Unlimited

    So it’s TV Supes.

  8. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 1:38 am -      #8

    How strong is TV supes then? Rag calced luffy’s striking strength and lifting strength by powerscaling in the No blood for the blood god debate.

    Luffy(before his recent extreme power spike) is power scaled to be able to punch with the force of 12.5 billion newtons and lift 300,000 tons.

  9. Alpha or Omega May 15, 2015 at 1:45 am -      #9

    While this is DCAU Superman specified here, I just want to point out a few things. This is a little off-topic.
    /
    “And with that video rookie posted, superman mentions his speed was mach 7″
    /
    Actually, according to the comic the animation is based on, he sent the dude flying at mach 7 IIRC.
    This is his speed. Flies from the sun to the earth in seconds.
    youtu.be/JLGRkYYmJgQ?t=74
    /
    Since “the explosion condensed into 15 supernovas feat” wasn’t mentioned in Superman vs The Elite.
    Here, in Superman Unbound, he is only knocked unconscious by the supernova and explosion of a planet.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jDsiBBZ7WU
    He is later captured by Brainiac, but escapes.

  10. Nsl98 May 15, 2015 at 1:50 am -      #10

    Eh, he and Shazam were collapsing buildings
    and stuff as an after effect of their fight:
    m.youtube.com/watch?v=6BJ1-trrgqc

  11. Alpha or Omega May 15, 2015 at 1:58 am -      #11

    For DCAU Superman
    Basically, he’s the Superman with the mental barriers holding him vastly back.
    He thinks he needs oxygen and all that jazz.
    I don’t think this one would win.
    /
    youtu.be/BWG5iTPOLIc?t=324
    Fight against Doomsday.
    /
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASoRMG9eeqA
    Saves a plane.
    @6:11
    Fights Captain Marvel(now known as Shazam).
    /
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbdMpOL3qIo
    Takes down tanks and fights Supergirl and Darkseid.
    /
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ornGgHafgT4
    Helps Darkseid take down Brainiac, gets backstabed by Brainiac, tortured, then fights Darkseid.

  12. Nsl98 May 15, 2015 at 2:01 am -      #12

    Hitting Darkseid hard enough that the asteroid they’re on explodes:
    m.youtube.com/watch?v=dmTg7ROPssc

  13. Alpha or Omega May 15, 2015 at 2:25 am -      #13

    youtu.be/dC_PQlmzVaA?t=465
    Survives getting hit by a kryptonite warhead.
    /
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdIFdFackTc
    Faces Darkseid, talks about the “World of Cardboard,” and survives Darkseid’s torture device.
    /
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYr1c8b_p9M
    Fights Grundy. One shot Aquaman.
    /
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnCbFRgRWJE
    Faces Mongul
    /
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlcXA_iokPc
    This is totally Batman.

  14. Kitten Lord May 15, 2015 at 7:21 am -      #14

    Looks like Superman is looking for a victory as usual, the tights wearing goody two shoes…..

  15. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 7:52 am -      #15

    “Looks like Superman is looking for a victory as usual, the tights wearing goody two shoes…..”

    He doesn’t wear tights, nor is he a goody two shoes, in the New52.
    The newer animated movies follow the New52 more closely now.

    Anyways:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_2OCLpLC1s

    200 Quintilian tons.
    2 with 22 zeros after it in kg.
    The weight of earth is 6 with 24 zeros after it in kg.

    So not quite planet level strength. But close.
    He also happened to be doing it with a single hand. Without being emotionally pissed off or bloodlusted.

    So i say Supes takes this.

  16. Kitten Lord May 15, 2015 at 8:33 am -      #16

    So he tears off luffies arms and beats him to death with them?

  17. The Ultimate Overlord May 15, 2015 at 9:52 am -      #17

    @Friendly
    “And so help me if someone brings up Conquerer’s Haki I will lose my shit.”
    I would like to see that, but that would be mean.
    Question, does Superman have more willpower than Luffy cause CH might make him pass out? :)

    @Kitten
    “So he tears off luffies arms and beats him to death with them?”
    Could it end any other way?

  18. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 9:54 am -      #18

    “Question, does Superman have more willpower than Luffy cause CH might make him pass out? ”

    considering the pressure of saving the entire planet & human race has been on his shoulders multiple times, and he has had to fight through it over and over again, i’d say he has more willpower than a pirate.

    The only reason he never got a green willpower ring was because rings are only given to people native of that sector.
    Therefor only humans could get the rings in the Milky Way galaxy, not Kryptonians.
    But he would have probably been a likely candidate had he still been on Krypton.

  19. Shgon Dunstan May 15, 2015 at 10:04 am -      #19

    :Reads tin:”Lets see… Superman Vs…” X_X… :falls over dead:…

  20. The Ultimate Overlord May 15, 2015 at 10:09 am -      #20

    “considering the pressure of saving the entire planet & human race has been on his shoulders multiple times, and he has had to fight through it over and over again, i’d say he has more willpower than a pirate.

    The only reason he never got a green willpower ring was because rings are only given to people native of that sector.
    Therefor only humans could get the rings in the Milky Way galaxy, not Kryptonians.
    But he would have probably been a likely candidate had he still been on Krypton.”
    I know, this match is a horrid stomp probably made out of spite or misinformation.

  21. Nsl98 May 15, 2015 at 10:36 am -      #21

    I know, this match is a horrid stomp probably made out of spite or misinformation.

    It’s not spite or misinformation, Jake knows his fictions, quite well. Luffy got a recent power boost and DCAU Supes is a pretty balanced Superman option.

    And just cuz Supes massively outclasses Luffy in strength, it’s not a stomp. Wasn’t Superman’s top speed in this incarnation like hypersonic or something? Luffy should be able to react, at least. Doubt he could hurt Clark, though.

  22. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 10:46 am -      #22

    “Wasn’t Superman’s top speed in this incarnation like hypersonic or something?”

    He raced Flash around the world, so definitely much higher than Hypersonic…

    The issue is there’s so many different Animated versions of superman, and getting feats for just 1 specific animated incarnation can be tough.

  23. Nsl98 May 15, 2015 at 11:05 am -      #23

    The issue is there’s so many different Animated versions of superman, and getting feats for just 1 specific animated incarnation can be tough.

    Yeah, what with all the animated one shots and whatnot.

    But DCAU Supes has, like, 3 whole shows worth of feats, right? TAS, JL, JLU.

  24. Kitten Lord May 15, 2015 at 11:18 am -      #24

    Are all the feats for supes posted so far DCAU?

  25. Nsl98 May 15, 2015 at 11:24 am -      #25

    @Kitten
    Yes, except for the posts discussing what Animated Movie Supes is capable of. (Which were posts 3&9)

    All the others are TV Superman feats.

  26. sierra117 May 15, 2015 at 11:43 am -      #26

    AU Supes had quite feats that outclassed Luffy

  27. Hermit May 15, 2015 at 11:58 am -      #27

    Superman flies up and spams heat vision? Doesn’t seem to be in character for him but hey, if it works…

  28. SharkToasty May 15, 2015 at 12:01 pm -      #28

    Superman busts planets. He moves faster than the speed of light and thought.
    What’s Luffy gonna do here?

  29. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 12:10 pm -      #29

    @Hermit
    “Superman flies up and spams heat vision? Doesn’t seem to be in character for him but hey, if it works…”

    He actually did just that in an animated movie against doomsday.

    @SharkToasty
    “Superman busts planets. He moves faster than the speed of light and thought.
    What’s Luffy gonna do here?”

    To be fair, it’s animated Superman here, not comic Superman.
    Sick gravatar though. ^^

  30. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 15, 2015 at 12:10 pm -      #30

    @Rookie Not part of the DCAU

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=zexXH3lS8Uw
    =
    @AoO

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLGRkYYmJgQ&feature=youtu.be&t=74

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jDsiBBZ7WU

    Not part of the DCAU
    =
    @Rag Not part of the DCAU

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_2OCLpLC1s

    In case anyone doesn’t know, DCAU is a specific universe within DC. Feats from Batman the Animated Series, Superman the Animated Series, The New Batman Adventures, Batman Beyond, Static Shock, The Zeta Project, Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, Batman Mask of the Phantasm, Batman and Mr. Freeze SubZero, Batman Beyond Return of the Joker, Batman Mystery of the Batwoman, Chase Me, Lobo, and Gotham Girls are all considered DCAU.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_animated_universe#TV_series

    Just for reference.

  31. Alpha or Omega May 15, 2015 at 12:35 pm -      #31

    @CH1
    /
    “@AoO

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLGRkYYmJgQ&feature=youtu.be&t=74

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jDsiBBZ7WU

    Not part of the DCAU”
    /
    I know that. I even said when mentioning the different Superman.
    “While this is DCAU Superman specified here, I just want to point out a few things. This is a little off-topic.”

  32. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 15, 2015 at 12:40 pm -      #32

    @AoO Sorry.

  33. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 1:46 pm -      #33

    That is a bit disheartening. I dunno much about the tv shows, so I can’t tell them apart. I can only trust you guys are telling the truth when posting those videos… but you have all basically just lied to me about all supe’s feats. Can some actually post feats for this specific incarnation of superman?

    “So he tears off luffies arms and beats him to death with them?”

    Uh… thats not how luffy’s rubber powers work… supes does not have haki to bypass his damage immunity to blunt impacts. (I know you will say thats nlf, we can discuss that.)

  34. Alpha or Omega May 15, 2015 at 1:55 pm -      #34

    I did tell the truth.
    I even basically said the feats for this Supes is not the DCAU one, and these are for the DCAU one.
    I kept them separate.

  35. Nsl98 May 15, 2015 at 2:09 pm -      #35

    Can some actually post feats for this specific incarnation of superman?

    Dude, multiple people have. There were only two instances where the wrong DCAU was used to provide a feat. Alpha’s first post doesn’t count, since he even said he was talking about the wrong one.

  36. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 2:12 pm -      #36

    “Dude, multiple people have. There were only two instances where the wrong DCAU was used to provide a feat. Alpha’s first post doesn’t count, since he even said he was talking about the wrong one.”

    Ok seriously now… I don’t know the differences between the series. Someone posted every video that WASNT the right incarnation. As if I’d know which videos ARE the right ones after that post? Really??

  37. Nsl98 May 15, 2015 at 2:18 pm -      #37

    It was already corrected by CH1 though. Post 30.

  38. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 2:21 pm -      #38

    Post 30 quoted videos that were NOT the right incarnation. Think about it… why would that help me…?

  39. Nsl98 May 15, 2015 at 2:27 pm -      #39

    It would help you because CH1 said “Not a part of DCAU” at the end of each qoute. Think about it…

  40. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 2:32 pm -      #40

    Yes. Compiling the incorrect videos does not tell me which specific videos ARE correct. Thats all I care about. I do not want to filter through the some 30 videos to figure that out. Hows about you do that. Maybe you would then understand why I don’t want to do that.

  41. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 15, 2015 at 2:38 pm -      #41

    “Post 30 quoted videos that were NOT the right incarnation. Think about it… why would that help me…?”

    Well, I call out the three people who posted videos that weren’t the right incarnation. Rookie, AoO, and Rag.

    Rookie has only one post. AoO points out which ones weren’t part of the DCAU that he posted. Rag also only has one video. But to make it easier, post 3 by Rookie, AoO in post 9, and Rag in post 15. All other videos are correct.
    =
    “Yes. Compiling the incorrect videos does not tell me which specific videos ARE correct. ”

    Well, if I compiled the videos that aren’t correct, then anything that isn’t there is by default, correct.

  42. Nsl98 May 15, 2015 at 2:41 pm -      #42

    I really don’t see the problem here.

    CH1 qouted 4 videos, and stated those specific four are the only ones not correct.

    Through logical reasoning, the videos not quoted in CH1’s post are correct, and are in no need of scrutiny.

    So, for actual DCAU Superman feats, just look at posts:
    2,10,11,12, and 13

  43. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 2:43 pm -      #43

    “Well, if I compiled the videos that aren’t correct, then anything that isn’t there is by default, correct.”

    7 of 16 posted videos are incorrect incarnation supposedly. For the third time, I am not AT ALL framiliar with any animated series. Being told to watch 16 videos only for half of them to be incorrect does not fucking help me. You must compile the correct ones before I even give a shit.

    1 0f the 2 post in #9 are incorrect. Every other correct video as you said shows about city block level strength… thats extremely weak.

  44. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 15, 2015 at 2:53 pm -      #44

    “7 of 16 posted videos are incorrect incarnation supposedly”

    No, only four of them are wrong and there’s only fifteen.
    =
    “Being told to watch 16 videos only for half of them to be incorrect does not fucking help me. ”

    No, only four of them incorrect and those four have already been pointed out to you. Not only that, I posted which posters posted them and which posts they came in.
    =
    ” You must compile the correct ones before I even give a shit.”

    I already did the opposite. You can find which ones are correct due to the fact that anything I didn’t point out is correct. I don’t see how this is difficult… If only four of them are wrong and those four have been pointed out by video, poster, and post number then anything that isn’t pointed out is correct.
    =
    “1 0f the 2 post in #9 are incorrect.”

    No, both are wrong…
    =
    I already told you which ones are wrong, who to look for that posted them and which posts they are. If you’re too lazy to look at the ones that aren’t those four videos, even though you’re told which four to avoid, then that’s on you, not the people who posted them.

  45. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 2:53 pm -      #45

    “Uh… thats not how luffy’s rubber powers work… supes does not have haki to bypass his damage immunity to blunt impacts. (I know you will say thats nlf, we can discuss that.)”

    Yea that’s NLF.
    Please post any sources or evidence you have to support this and we can go from there.

    I can understand if you’re saying that Superman simply isn’t strong enough to rip Luffy apart, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be done.

  46. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 3:13 pm -      #46

    Here are some of his rubber powers. Never in the series has he been brought to a limit on how much he can stretch. Here are some examples though. I need to split it into two posts.

    Luffy’s neck stretching from the sea floor to sea level so he could breath. I am guestimating its only maybe 100 yards. And with his neck stretching that much without even showing signs of stress, tells me he could stretch much, much longer.

    i15.mangapanda.com/one-piece/86/one-piece-2421793.jpg
    i31.mangapanda.com/one-piece/86/one-piece-2421795.jpg

    And for the next feat, I am gonna show a little power scaling.

    Here is a guy called Gekko, with island splitting punching power.
    i14.mangapanda.com/one-piece/481/one-piece-64358.jpg

  47. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 3:18 pm -      #47

    Now here is luffy’s blunt force impact resistance being shown.

    Same guy, gekko, trapping luffy in a box, then punching that box with the power shown in the previous comment, and then stomping said box for good measure. All to absolute zero effect because he is made of rubber.
    i21.mangapanda.com/one-piece/482/one-piece-64371.jpg
    i13.mangapanda.com/one-piece/482/one-piece-64372.jpg
    i29.mangapanda.com/one-piece/482/one-piece-64373.jpg
    i29.mangapanda.com/one-piece/482/one-piece-64374.jpg

  48. Kitten Lord May 15, 2015 at 3:21 pm -      #48

    Being rubbery does not change the fact if supes could output millions of tons of force then it would crush or break the rubber. He does not have to stretch.

  49. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 3:22 pm -      #49

    ” Never in the series has he been brought to a limit on how much he can stretch.”

    Yea but that’s exactly why the NLF rule exists. Just because a character hasn’t yet shown limits, doesn’t mean he has no limits. Ever.

    Even if a character survives a galaxy level impact, doesn’t mean he can survive everything above that.

  50. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 3:28 pm -      #50

    “Yea but that’s exactly why the NLF rule exists. Just because a character hasn’t yet shown limits, doesn’t mean he has no limits. Ever.”

    Yes… I get that… both of you… So far, at max, we have his stretching durability alone at island level. That is seperate from his more recent durability and haki defenses. I understand NLF rag, you seem to have a boner for it every match. No one in this match is galaxy busting. No one here is even country busting. And Supes is certainly far weaker and less durable in the incarnation used in this match than luffy is currently.

    “Being rubbery does not change the fact if supes could output millions of tons of force then it would crush or break the rubber. He does not have to stretch.”

    You must not watch One piece. Our IRL version of rubber is not what luffy is actually made of. His fruit gives him some good properties of rubber, but hightens them to the extreme. He is like putty and rubber. Physical impacts do not effect him. Its like punching a non newtonian fluid.

  51. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 3:59 pm -      #51

    @Pimp
    “Yes… I get that… both of you… So far, at max, we have his stretching durability alone at island level. That is seperate from his more recent durability and haki defenses. I understand NLF rag,”

    I quote you from post #33
    “Uh… thats not how luffy’s rubber powers work… supes does not have haki to bypass his damage immunity to blunt impacts.”

    You DID make it sound like you were claiming Luffy is “immune” to blunt impacts.
    You didn’t say “Supes isn’t strong enough to harm luffy”,
    You basically just said “Luffy is immune to blunt impact, because Supes doesn’t have Haki”
    YOUR claim was a No-Limit-Fallacy.

    Do not get annoyed at others for your mistake in wording.

    “Our IRL version of rubber is not what luffy is actually made of. His fruit gives him some good properties of rubber, but hightens them to the extreme. He is like putty and rubber.”

    Real rubber or not, it still has an elasticity limit, and when that threshold is met, it will snap.
    If you want to dispute it… Well… You’ll need a word of god as a minimum, and even then it’s likely NLF.

    ” Physical impacts do not effect him.”

    *sigh*

  52. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 4:07 pm -      #52

    “You DID make it sound like you were claiming Luffy is “immune” to blunt impacts.
    You didn’t say “Supes isn’t strong enough to harm luffy”,
    You basically just said “Luffy is immune to blunt impact, because Supes doesn’t have Haki”
    YOUR claim was a No-Limit-Fallacy.”

    Dude, you get this wrong every fucking time. You straw man the shit out of anything remotely NLF. Luffy is immune up to island level destruction as I have just fucking posted. Quit your bullshit. I said the stuff I have seen posted from the right incarnations of supes puts him at building busting levels. Not island busting. He is not on par enough to meet luffy’s minimum durability.

  53. Kitten Lord May 15, 2015 at 4:13 pm -      #53

    Have all the relevent supes materials been posted?

    “He is not on par enough to meet luffy’s minimum durability.”

    What of his melting point? he still has laser eyes I take it? so…..cooking with superman?

  54. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 4:14 pm -      #54

    @Pimpmage
    THEN WORD YOUR SENTENCES BETTER.
    It truly isn’t that hard to do.

    If you say shit like “physical impacts do not effect him”, you deserve to be called out for a NLF, and rightfully so.
    Even if you mean something different, we can’t read your god damn mind.

    Or at least admit your mistake and don’t get annoyed at someone for pointing out what you said was wrong.

  55. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 4:26 pm -      #55

    I know exactly how to break nlf’s into usable feats. We use best feats as a max. You assume I am too stupid to understand that. I posted the best fest I knew of relevant to rubber durability and stretching power. You completely misread everything I said because you think I am dumb. Well, you just fucked up.

    “THEN WORD YOUR SENTENCES BETTER.”

    I worded my sentences just fine. You completely misjudged the situation.

    “Even if you mean something different, we can’t read your god damn mind.”

    Read my first few sentences on post 50. I told you i understood NLF. I mentioned him having a minimum of island level durability. You completely disregarded that. You fucked up.

    “Or at least admit your mistake and don’t get annoyed at someone for pointing out what you said was wrong.”

    I understood the situation completely. Both what you, and everyone else is saying. You fucked up.

  56. Limbo Lowk May 15, 2015 at 4:26 pm -      #56

    Superman beyond had comics. Can’t find them but here at least shows he recieves h2h training at someone point
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/39001/3384266-hu2.png

  57. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 4:33 pm -      #57

    That helps, but when luffy uses observation haki, he is basically granted limited precognition. Similar to having spidey sense. You would have to match or exceed luffy’s speed to bypass that precognition.

  58. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 4:34 pm -      #58

    This might have already been posted,
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWd8p4wzFM8
    4:10
    Superman threw Doomsday into the volcano with enough Force to cause it to erupt.
    Someone do a calc for that? i can’t be fucked atm.

  59. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 15, 2015 at 4:39 pm -      #59

    “Someone do a calc for that?”

    Well, pretty much you, Aelfinn, and Tarbel are the only ones who know how to, AFAIK.

  60. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 4:47 pm -      #60

    @Pimp
    “I know exactly how to break nlf’s into usable feats. We use best feats as a max. You assume I am too stupid to understand that.”

    I literally do not care what you understand or do not understand, i care about what you claim on the thread.

    Forexample, you said word to word:
    “thats not how luffy’s rubber powers work… supes does not have haki to bypass his damage immunity to blunt impacts.”

    You then said:
    “I understand NLF rag, you seem to have a boner for it every match. No one in this match is galaxy busting. No one here is even country busting.”

    You then said directly after that:
    ” Physical impacts do not effect him. Its like punching a non newtonian fluid.”

    Anddd then you said:
    “. Luffy is immune up to island level destruction as I have just fucking posted”

    Those statements contradict each other Pimp, and they are confusing as fuck to anyone that doesn’t watch OP or doesn’t know Luffy.

    You specifically use words such as “immunity” and “do not effect”, and then go on to say that Forces eventually can effect him and bypass his immunity.
    1. If a Force can bypass “immunity” by just becoming larger, than isn’t immunity at all, it’s just durability.
    Saying it’s immunity is just flat-out incorrect.
    2. Saying Forces “do not effect” Luffy, only to say that they do if big enough a while later, Once again implies it’s just durability.
    You can’t say someone is unaffected by something, and then say they are affected by that same thing when big enough.
    It’s incorrect wording.

    You did contradict yourself. Whether you meant something else entirely all along is fine, but you NEED to explain yourself better.

    “I worded my sentences just fine. You completely misjudged the situation.”

    Considering i’v quoted your exact sentences, and shown you the exact words which you used incorrectly to give off the impression you were claiming NLF, pretty much settles this.

    You can think i’v misjudged the situation, and i DID misjudge what you meant.
    But i misjudged it BECAUSE of your horrible contradictory choice of wording.

    “You fucked up.”

    No, you fucked up. At English class apparently.

  61. Alpha or Omega May 15, 2015 at 4:47 pm -      #61

    “This might have already been posted,”
    /
    Way ahead of you.
    /
    “Superman threw Doomsday into the volcano with enough Force to cause it to erupt.”
    /
    It was already going to erupt, so Supes might have sped that up.

  62. Kitten Lord May 15, 2015 at 4:49 pm -      #62

    Looks like the Volcano was already erupting, hence the lava and smoke coming out of it. Its impossible to know if Supes had anything to do with it going nuts at the end or if it was about to do that already.

  63. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 4:54 pm -      #63

    Fair enough.

    Aside from that, the DCAU wiki says Supes survived a nuclear blast, and stopped a speeding comet approaching Earth.

    Have either of those been posted?

  64. Kitten Lord May 15, 2015 at 4:57 pm -      #64

    I checked my letterbox, nope….then again, bit late in jolly old England for post, its nearly 10 pm, maybe it will come in tomorrow morning….

  65. Aelfinn May 15, 2015 at 4:57 pm -      #65

    I think that asteroid event where Supergirl flew through part of it is the most impressive feat that DCAU Superman has. If you look at around 14:00 or so, Darkseid points out that the asteroid will cover the earth with a cloud of dust that will wipe out all life. That asteroid likely has about the same energy as the dinosaur-killer one, so it probably had like 10^8 to 10^9 Megatons worth of energy.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_winter

    Now, Superman didn’t necessarily tank it, but he did redirect it.

  66. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 15, 2015 at 4:59 pm -      #66

    Don’t see the calcs, or where they get the calcs they come from, but they have DCAU listed as capable of giving 409KT-80MT.

    outskirtsbattledomewiki.com/index.php/13-general-obd-terms/160-comprehensive-energy-scale

    “- Superman crater: 409.37 kilotons – 80 megatons (DC Animated Universe)”

    “- Superman deflects asteroid: 2.73 megatons (DC Animated Universe)”

    Again, don’t know where it’s coming from or if they used they used the right Supes, but if anyone knows of the two instances above, please post them(although both are pretty vague descriptions). Could shed some light on how powerful DCAU Supes can get.

  67. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 5:10 pm -      #67

    ““thats not how luffy’s rubber powers work… supes does not have haki to bypass his damage immunity to blunt impacts.”

    Of course that damage immunity goes off of best feats. Haki just enables the average nobody to bypass that island level strength requirement to actually cause him pain.

    ““I understand NLF rag, you seem to have a boner for it every match. No one in this match is galaxy busting. No one here is even country busting.”

    I said this because you oh so love to straw man stuff people say.

    “” Physical impacts do not effect him. Its like punching a non newtonian fluid.”

    Which is true… how is this nlf? You still punch the fluid either way. If superman was up against a logia, would he cry nlf because logias are incorporeal?

    “Those statements contradict each other Pimp, and they are confusing as fuck to anyone that doesn’t watch OP or doesn’t know Luffy.”

    I have stated no contradictions. If you are confused, ask for clarification. Not cry nlf.

    “You specifically use words such as “immunity” and “do not effect”, and then go on to say that Forces eventually can effect him and bypass his immunity.”

    Here you go again with that straw man fallacy. We go by best feats. Do I literally have to past the following statement onto every word I post for you to understand my understanding of NLF?

    (Of course we go by best feats. True NLF is not allowed)

    Would that make you happy? Or could we just get on with the debate because I fucking understand how we break apart NLF.

    “You did contradict yourself. Whether you meant something else entirely all along is fine, but you NEED to explain yourself better.”

    No I do not. You need to stop trying to straw man my arguments.

    “Considering i’v quoted your exact sentences, and shown you the exact words which you used incorrectly to give off the impression you were claiming NLF, pretty much settles this.”

    ONCE AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU MUST INTERPRET EVERYTHING TO THE EXTREME NLF. THIS IS NOT ACTUALLY THE CASE FYI. WE ALL FUCKING GET IT ALREADY.

    “You can think i’v misjudged the situation, and i DID misjudge what you meant.
    But i misjudged it BECAUSE of your horrible contradictory choice of wording.”

    No, my wordings are fine when you understand they are not actually meant to be NLF. Yet while knowing better, you still bring it up and cry about it. I am so confused as to why you continue to do this.

    “No, you fucked up. At English class apparently.”

    This is getting really old, really fast. You know exactly what I am saying. Yet you are for some stupid fucking reason, playing dumb and derailing this debate by extrapolating to infinity with your straw man fallacies.

  68. Friendlysociopath May 15, 2015 at 5:25 pm -      #68

    Well, pretty much you, Aelfinn, and Tarbel are the only ones who know how to, AFAIK.

    I mean- I don’t think there’s a calculation for a volcano going off because someone hit it… at best you’d have to look at why they erupt and then try to translate that into something Superman and Doomsday did.
    Although it looks like it was well on its way to erupting beforehand so I wouldn’t try that anyways.

    Does have a good feat for heat vision though, lava was doing nothing to Doomsday- heat vision knocked neat little holes in his head.
    So heat vision is well above 1100 degrees Celcius, even hotter if Superman ever uses them to melt metal at some point.

  69. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 5:31 pm -      #69

    @Pimpmage
    “Of course that damage immunity goes off of best feats.”

    No. DURABILITY goes off of best feat.
    Immunity implies 100% ineffectiveness.
    If someone is literally made of, or powered by, fire forexample, he’s immune to fire.
    And even that’s a stretch, considering fire can just constantly get hotter & hotter.
    “Immunity” as a term is generally incorrect to use unless you have Word of God evidence.

    Saying someone is “immune” to physical impact, despite him still getting knocked around by physical impact, means he isn’t immune to it.

    “Which is true… how is this nlf? You still punch the fluid either way. If superman was up against a logia, would he cry nlf because logias are incorporeal?”

    If Luffy was ACTUALLY incorporeal, then saying he’s unaffected by or immune to physical impact would make sense.
    Luffy is not incorporeal, unless i’v missed something really really big.

    Fluid & Incorporeal have such a massive difference, it’s ridiculous that you’d even use one of them as an example for the other.
    If someone is made of a fluid, he’s still made of physical matter. His molecules are just more spread out.

    Enough physical impact would still hurt/kill him, he would just have a lot more resistance to Concentrated Pressure.
    Thus he isn’t “unaffected” or “immune”, he’s just durable and hard to hurt.

    “I have stated no contradictions. If you are confused, ask for clarification. Not cry nlf.”

    I literally copy/pasted your claims which were word to word No-Limit-Fallacies.
    And i DID ask you to clarify them, BECAUSE they were No-Limit-Fallacies.
    You did eventually explain yourself, but that doesn’t change the fact that your previous claims were bullshit, or at least worded so.

    “We go by best feats. Do I literally have to past the following statement onto every word I post for you to understand my understanding of NLF?”

    Going by best feats doesn’t make a character Immune to or Unaffected by something. It just makes him durable.
    Do i literally have to past the following statement onto every word i post for you to understand the English Language?

    “ONCE AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU MUST INTERPRET EVERYTHING TO THE EXTREME NLF. THIS IS NOT ACTUALLY THE CASE FYI. WE ALL FUCKING GET IT ALREADY.”

    If you word something as an extreme NLF, then i will interpret it as an extreme NLF, because not everyone here watches OP and knows Luffy.

    If you claim something that sounds like a NLF, you will be asked to explain yourself, because us debaters who do not know OP or Luffy might actually think you had a basis for NLF, such as Word of God.

    “No, my wordings are fine when you understand they are not actually meant to be NLF.”

    *sigh*
    Here you go again assuming i can read your fucking mind.
    I DO NOT watch one piece or know Luffy.

    You claimed he’s “unaffected” and “immune” to physical damage.
    Which, if the wording is to be taken seriously, is a RIDICULOUSLY big deal.
    Therefor i asked you to POST ANY SOURCES you had to support that.

    Instead you ended up bitching about how i was misinterpreting what you said,
    But the misinterpretation only existed because of how YOU wrote your sentence, and because of YOUR choice of words.

    “I am so confused as to why you continue to do this.”

    For the same reason you’re continuing i’d assume.

    “This is getting really old, really fast. You know exactly what I am saying. Yet you are for some stupid fucking reason, playing dumb and derailing this debate”

    I NOW understand what you were saying. I did not understand what you were saying THEN.

    After you explained yourself, it turned out your previous wording was in fact factually incorrect, and your previous wording was factually a NLF.

    So now i’m telling you for the dozenth time, word your sentences better.
    Instead of getting butthurt over the mistake that you made, and continuing to deny it over and over, you should fucking accept it and move on.

  70. Aelfinn May 15, 2015 at 5:43 pm -      #70

    “I mean- I don’t think there’s a calculation for a volcano going off because someone hit it…”

    I did a calc a while back involving the minimum earthquake size involved with volcanic eruption (less of a calc and more research) and the energy involved with that. I then found out that about 30% of the energy of an impact is converted into seismic waves.

    I think it ended up being in the high megatons, iirc. I THINK.

  71. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 5:45 pm -      #71

    “So now i’m telling you for the dozenth time, word your sentences better.
    Instead of getting butthurt over the mistake that you made, and continuing to deny it over and over, you should fucking accept it and move on.”

    In the OP verse, Luffy is straight up immune to blunt force attacks. He is not immune to blades. In the most recent chapter, he has shown to have gained the ability to even be unaffected by haki attacks. And since you don’t know the series too well, I can explain. If you try to punch luffy in the face, his face would just absorb it and bounce your hand back. If you hit his face with haki, he would react as if you actually punched another person in the face. Now, with his latest upgrade, luffy can take haki imbued punches to the face and have the attack bounce back ineffectually. I got a little off topic there, I apologise. This immunity does not extend beyond his universe because of NLF BankGambling rules. We go by his best durability feats as I have explained several times. You completely understand me, yet you choose to derail this debate further. English works if I get my point across. You understand my point perfectly with the context I have provided you. Yet you pretend to ignore my context and take my wordings literally. You are the one who fails english here. Context is everything.

    Have you ever actually read something literally without context before? Maybe you might understand your dilemma.
    www.reddit.com/r/nocontext/top/?sort=top&t=all

  72. Friendlysociopath May 15, 2015 at 5:49 pm -      #72

    less of a calc and more research

    That’s what I figured, you’ve mentioned before a lot of calculating is using Google to its fullest potential.

    Anyone off-hand know for sure how fast those heat beams Supes has can go? Might be his best bet since he doesn’t have a blade.

  73. Rookie May 15, 2015 at 5:53 pm -      #73

    I don’t understand something in the last One Piece chapter. Where is Zoro? Doflamingo is nearly dead, so why don’t Zoro finished him off?

  74. Aelfinn May 15, 2015 at 5:57 pm -      #74

    “That’s what I figured, you’ve mentioned before a lot of calculating is using Google to its fullest potential.”

    Very much so. It usually goes
    1) Figure out what equation to use
    2) If you don’t know what equation to use, Google-fu it
    3) Put in the variables you know
    4) Figure out how to estimate the variables you don’t
    5) Repeat steps 1-4 when necessary
    6) Profit

  75. Nsl98 May 15, 2015 at 6:07 pm -      #75

    Have either of those been posted?

    Post 2 for asteroid feat.

  76. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 6:25 pm -      #76

    @Pimpmage
    “In the OP verse, Luffy is straight up immune to blunt force attacks. He is not immune to blades.”

    Is this stated as a Word of God? or are you assuming it because of feats?
    Because it’s a big claim to make. A very big claim.

    No, i’m not trying to shunt you or attack you, it’s a serious question.

    “If you try to punch luffy in the face, his face would just absorb it and bounce your hand back. ”

    The thing is, that’s still a very realistic and physical property.
    It’s called elasticity, it’s a real thing, and it can be calculated.

    Now, i have no doubt Luffys elasticity is EXTREMELY high & durable, but i still don’t see how it makes him immune.

    “If you hit his face with haki, he would react as if you actually punched another person in the face. ”

    Okay, so her reflects haki. Sure.
    Haki isn’t a physical thing i’m assuming, so i can’t dispute this, and it makes total sense for a character to be immune to something like it.

    But this still doesn’t mean he’s immune to physical damage.

    ” This immunity does not extend beyond his universe because of NLF BankGambling rules. ”

    I really don’t care about the match right now, discussing theory more than anything.
    I’m trying to understand how Luffys power works IN his own universe.
    And whether or not it’s an actual immunity or just really high durability.

    “You completely understand me, yet you choose to derail this debate further.”

    I understand that you agree Luffy isn’t immune to physical damage in BankGambling matches.
    But i also understand that you seem to think Luffy IS actually immune to physical damage in his fiction.
    And i want to know why you think that, and whether or not there’s a basis for it.

    If you don’t want to respond, don’t.

    “You are the one who fails english here. Context is everything.”

    Actually, post #33
    ALL you said was: “Uh… thats not how luffy’s rubber powers work… supes does not have haki to bypass his damage immunity to blunt impacts.”

    There was no other context aside from this direct statement.
    And i genuinely had (and still have) no idea whether or not you still mean it.
    I mean, i know you don’t mean it for the match, but whether or not you still mean it for his verse.

  77. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 7:07 pm -      #77

    “I don’t understand something in the last One Piece chapter. Where is Zoro? Doflamingo is nearly dead, so why don’t Zoro finished him off?”

    Zoro will most definitely not kill steal luffy. He wouldn’t dare… Besides, that would be extremely anticlimactic. Zoro already had his main opponent this arc.

    “Is this stated as a Word of God? or are you assuming it because of feats?
    Because it’s a big claim to make. A very big claim.”

    I am assuming because of feats.
    >Gets a ship dropped on him. That wont work! I’m made of rubber!
    >Gets shot at with hundreds of bullets. That won’t work! I’m made of rubber!
    >Gets crushed by an island busting attack. That won’t work! I’m made of rubber!

    And about that island busting bit. Luffy had nowhere near that durability when it comes to getting sliced by blades. You could easily stab him with a dagger and do more damage than an island busting punch. Its because he was crushed/punched in that instance, he took zero damage from that attack. If I were to powerscale that hit he took relative to his own strength at that time in the series, you would see an EXTREME outlier. I’m talking like a couple orders of magnitude higher than his average durability at that point in time.

    Also… I found some word of god statement from the writer of One piece. I don’t really know how I would translate its meanings.

    D: How far can Luffy’s arm stretch?

    Oda: Pretty far. Right now it can stretch about 72 Gomu Gomus. Luffy was telling me before how he wanted to try hard and reach 100 Gomu Gomus.

    I can only assume oda mean luffy’s average punching length is equal to one gomu gomu. Which I am guessing could be like 10 meters. But Oda responded to that point by chapter 30 in the story. Almost 10 or so years ago. Very early in the series before luffy has as much mastery of his powers as he does now. He could be quadruple that amount by now for all we know.

  78. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 7:19 pm -      #78

    @Pimpmage
    “And about that island busting bit. Luffy had nowhere near that durability when it comes to getting sliced by blades.”

    That’s how all elastic objects work though. Think about it from a more experimentation stand point.

    Rubber Bands? Can be cut pretty damn easily, but try breaking a rubber band by punching it.
    The same goes for Pencil Erasers, although Erasers don’t have as much of an Elasticity as Rubber Bands.

    So the way it stands, Luffy just seems like a dude with a very very very high Elastic durability.
    Meaning he can withstand high blunt force trauma, but not high Pressure.
    This is a REAL calculable property, and i still don’t see why you’re assuming it’s Immunity.

    ” If I were to powerscale that hit he took relative to his own strength at that time in the series, you would see an EXTREME outlier”

    It actually wouldn’t be an outlier.
    Lets take the Rubber Band example again, it can withstand EXTREME blunt force, but how much Blunt Force would it actually create if thrown at someone?
    Not much.

    “D: How far can Luffy’s arm stretch?
    Oda: Pretty far. Right now it can stretch about 72 Gomu Gomus. Luffy was telling me before how he wanted to try hard and reach 100 Gomu Gomus.”

    The simple fact that he has a “maximum” stretch range just further implies he’s just a very elastic person, but not totally immune to physical damage.

  79. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 7:36 pm -      #79

    “Meaning he can withstand high blunt force trauma, but not high Pressure.”

    An island busting hit would have had tremendous pressure too. And it didn’t effect him at all. Is that saying his rubber characteristics extend to absorbing pressures too? Heck yeah it would. So how strong is supes supposed to be? I don’t think I have seen a clear answer so far.

  80. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 7:45 pm -      #80

    “An island busting hit would have had tremendous pressure too. And it didn’t effect him at all.”

    Can i see this feat if you don’t mind me asking?
    Cause unless the hit was focused on a very concentrated part of his body, i’m going to assume it was more blunt force rather than pressure.

    “Is that saying his rubber characteristics extend to absorbing pressures too? Heck yeah it would.”

    Still just seems like regular elastic properties to me… Along with some good Superhuman Durability.
    Nothing i’d call immunity to be honest.

    “So how strong is supes supposed to be? I don’t think I have seen a clear answer so far.”

    Comet feat probably. Someone will get around to a calc eventually.

  81. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 7:48 pm -      #81

    Here is the actual island busting feat in question.
    i14.mangapanda.com/one-piece/481/one-piece-64358.jpg

    I am splitting this into two posts because of the spam filter. In the next post, a person even mentions the previous island busting punch relative to the one luffy receives.

  82. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 7:49 pm -      #82

    i21.mangapanda.com/one-piece/482/one-piece-64371.jpg
    i13.mangapanda.com/one-piece/482/one-piece-64372.jpg
    i29.mangapanda.com/one-piece/482/one-piece-64373.jpg
    i29.mangapanda.com/one-piece/482/one-piece-64374.jpg

  83. Ragnorke May 15, 2015 at 8:04 pm -      #83

    So… It was a punch? Or was it like an energy blast?
    Sorry i’m not good at following manga.

    Eitherway the dudes hands looked pretty big, so we’d assume the surface area of Luffy that got hit was about a meter square.
    So basically, it would be Pressure = Force / 1

    Whereas with a sword, which would stab a surface area of around 0.01mm, which is 0.00000001 meter square.
    So basically, Pressure = Force / 0.00000001

    An average dude can swing his fist (or sword) at about 5,000 N.
    A dude with superstrength would obviously be higher, and a dude with superspeed would be even higher.
    I’m guessing most characters in OP have both super strength & speed (?)

    So the Pressure from being stabbed by a sword would be around 20,000 / 0.00000001 = 2,000,000,000,000 Pa

    And i was being incredibly generous when i said the swing would only be 4 times higher than a normal human.
    I’m guessing characters are MUCH more than just 4 times faster and/or stronger than average humans.

    So… I think you get the idea…
    Pressure from sharp objects is pretty ridiculous compared to any.. umm… Broader hit.
    Even if that Broader hit is incredible powerful.

    Essentially, the blunt force would need to be 2,000,000,000,000 N to compare in pressure to just a slightly super human sword stab.
    2,000,000,000,000 N being 200,000,000 Tons.
    Which probably isn’t too far off from the weight of a small island.

  84. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 8:31 pm -      #84

    It might be helpful for you to understand how to read manga format in the future. For other matches and such. You read right to left. Top to bottom.
    thunderkidmanga.com/manga/reading1.jpg

    “So… It was a punch? Or was it like an energy blast?”

    A punch from a fellow named gekko cracked an island in two. Luffy then was punched and stomped with the same force from the same guy.

    “I’m guessing most characters in OP have both super strength & speed (?)”

    Easily. Yes. The most current incarnation of luffy is power scaled to be able to lift 300,000 tons, and punch with the force of 12.5 billion newtons. Also, luffy speed blitzes a guy named doffy in a more recent chapter. He is something like mach 300. And that guy has some ridiculous speed and reaction time calcs done for him.
    www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=20065

  85. Envoy May 15, 2015 at 9:54 pm -      #85

    “An island busting hit would have had tremendous pressure too. And it didn’t effect him at all.”
    +
    Moria’s attacks hurt Luffy, he wasn’t damaged as a regular person would, being made of rubber and all, but it still hurt him. Supes should totally be able to do the same.

  86. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 10:17 pm -      #86

    “Moria’s attacks hurt Luffy, he wasn’t damaged as a regular person would, being made of rubber and all, but it still hurt him. Supes should totally be able to do the same.”

    No it did not.

  87. Envoy May 15, 2015 at 10:49 pm -      #87

    It seems he did. It really wouldn’t make any sense for this series to be as popular as it is if Luffy never got hurt.
    =
    www.mangapanda.com/103-2592-15/one-piece/chapter-485.html

  88. pimpmage May 15, 2015 at 11:24 pm -      #88

    That pain and fatigue was from fighting moriah. Being physically hurt is different from feeling pain and getting fatigued. Take luffy absorbing bullets as an example. Sure he can tank the hits and redirect them, but they could sensibly cause him pain, but not damage him.

  89. Friendlysociopath May 16, 2015 at 12:00 am -      #89

    Being physically hurt is different from feeling pain and getting fatigued.

    Eh, you’re gonna have to explain that further or I’m going to have to call you nasty names.
    Pain comes from being hurt, or otherwise having your body compromised; if you feel pain then you were hurt in some fashion.

    The scratches and bruises all over his body also indicate he was “hurt”. There’s a bit of blood coming down his face too.

  90. Limbo Lowk May 16, 2015 at 12:19 am -      #90

    I wish I could find that Superman beyond comic. Iirc he flew to other planet outside the solar system.
    If it took a month or so to get from earth to outside our system(or reverse) what kind of speed would we be looking at?
    =
    “Eh, you’re gonna have to explain that further or I’m going to have to call you nasty names.”

    That is the first time I’ve seen someone give a warning before the actual insult over the Internet. This strange polite rudness confuses me.

  91. Friendlysociopath May 16, 2015 at 12:52 am -      #91

    If it took a month or so to get from earth to outside our system(or reverse) what kind of speed would we be looking at?

    I think 9,000,000,000 miles is the correct distance from Earth to the edge of the solar system.
    So over 30 days that’s 9,000,000,000 / 30
    = 300,000,000 miles per day
    300,000,000 / 24 hours in a day
    = 12,500,000 miles per hour
    translates to 5,588,000 meters per second.

    Speed of light is 299,792,458 meters per second
    so 0.019% of the speed of light… unless I messed something up.

    This strange polite rudness confuses me.

    I just had a League match as Gentleman Cho’Gath (11/1/9). The Class was still running hot in my blood.
    Not to mention the first what- 50 comments of this thread were people bitching back and forth about not understanding one another? I thought I’d give him the benefit of clarification; because Luffy’s broken and battered corpse of a body was absolutely physically hurt- to argue otherwise would be kind of foolish.

  92. Numinous One May 16, 2015 at 3:30 am -      #92

    “>Gets crushed by an island busting attack. That won’t work! I’m made of rubber!”

    Slight nitpick, that ain’t island busting.
    Splitting an island doesnt equate to it’s complete destruction, which is why it’s termed “busting”.
    Generally requires the object in question to suffer mass fragmentation at the least.

    Also, Thriller Bark would be lucky to be 1km in diameter.
    opwiki.de/images/Thriller_Bark3.jpg
    Gekko’s island splitting actually isn’t that great of a feat.

  93. pimpmage May 16, 2015 at 5:25 am -      #93

    “The scratches and bruises all over his body also indicate he was “hurt”. There’s a bit of blood coming down his face too.”

    He looked exactly like that before the attack hit. The attack itself did not change how luffy looked whatsoever. In comic book language, and going off the running gag joke oda uses every time luffy is hit by something only to be completely unaffected. Here are a few of these times that I know of off the top of my head.

    i7.mangapanda.com/one-piece/2/one-piece-2420137.jpg
    i36.mangapanda.com/one-piece/5/one-piece-2420181.jpg
    i29.mangapanda.com/one-piece/482/one-piece-64374.jpg
    i34.mangapanda.com/one-piece/637/one-piece-2601815.jpg

    Even if a musket bullet hits your, its still going to scratch the heck out of you regardless of your immunity to blunt hits. Same goes with being trapped within a box that is tough enough to withstand island busting hits and remain in one piece all the while the box getting bent and crushed. He will still get scratched up by that.

    “because Luffy’s broken and battered corpse of a body was absolutely physically hurt- to argue otherwise would be kind of foolish.”

    He was battered before the attacks that were much less than island busting. Even the most modern incarnation of luffy has yet to take an island busting attack yet. I seriously doubt he would be able to take one and remain standing if the attack was haki infused. That hit would have been such an extreme outlier from luffy’s durability at that point in time. It would make sense it didn’t actually damage him. Because he takes lesser hits with much, much less effect in the same arc of the manga.

    “Slight nitpick, that ain’t island busting.
    Splitting an island doesn’t equate to it’s complete destruction, which is why it’s termed “busting”.
    Generally requires the object in question to suffer mass fragmentation at the least.”

    I’d say otherwise. the picture we are referencing clearly shows several pieces breaking apart just around the epicenter.

  94. pimpmage May 16, 2015 at 5:25 am -      #94

    “Also, Thriller Bark would be lucky to be 1km in diameter.”

    That picture is an unrealistic representation of the island that does not show scale well.. Everything in that picture is EXTREMELY out of proportion.

    Here are some better pictures from the manga that show scale.
    i31.mangapanda.com/one-piece/457/one-piece-1693615.jpg
    i12.mangapanda.com/one-piece/458/one-piece-63920.jpg
    i39.mangapanda.com/one-piece/483/one-piece-64389.jpg

  95. Kitten Lord May 16, 2015 at 5:57 am -      #95

    How do you even calc the force required to bust an island at all? Upon striking the island, the rock and stone that makes up the island may become projectiles that further aid the destruction of said island, meaning that it does not necessarily take force to completely demolish X volume of stone to take out any island, building or landmass since the pieces of said object work in its own destruction.

    Think of Jenga or Dominos, hit the right place and any object is suddenly less stable under its own weight.

  96. pimpmage May 16, 2015 at 12:03 pm -      #96

    www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=14662

    Found someone that measured it all, but I didn’t see a conclusion.

  97. Numinous One May 17, 2015 at 12:33 am -      #97

    “Found someone that measured it all, but I didn’t see a conclusion.”

    A conclusion as in energy yield?
    Well they did say there it was low end town level.
    www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=18508
    Going by their listing, that’s 6-20Kt.

    As far as NF calcs are concerned, the yield needed for a low end small island is 1Gt.
    Bearing in mind that involves complete destruction down to the bedrock. Can’t just raze the surface and claim island level.

  98. AmericanBadger May 17, 2015 at 10:39 pm -      #98

    In what backwards ass universe does luffy beat any version of superman?

  99. Friendlysociopath May 17, 2015 at 10:42 pm -      #99

    In what backwards ass universe does luffy beat any version of superman?

    Some versions of Superman are pretty suckish when it comes to feats. Back in WW2 days he’d get KO’d by a large gorilla hitting him. Not saying that’s the case here but I’m not sure where Superman currently stands anyways for the purposes of this thread.

  100. AmericanBadger May 18, 2015 at 11:25 pm -      #100

    I’m pretty sure no matter the superman he would stomp luffy into oblivion. Most over wanked anime character ever.

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