Kratos Vs Guts

Kratos Vs Guts

Suggested by hellboy147

Kratos (GoW) will go up against Guts (Berserk)

Round 1: Regular Kratos vs Regular Guts

Round 2: God of War Kratos vs Guts with Berserk Armour Battle starts at Rome, who will be the supreme warrior?

Who wins?

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39 Comments on "Kratos Vs Guts"

  1. Amm0vamp1r3 May 18, 2015 at 12:04 am -      #1

    Kratos
    Guts nasty but until he gets to around femtos level he isn’t touching Kratos

    He fast enough to and dragonslayer should be able to hurt him but that gap In strength and magic use is large

  2. Alpha or Omega May 18, 2015 at 12:22 am -      #2

    Round 1 is debatable, but Round 2 is just unfair for Guts. God of War Kratos is magnitudes above Berserk Armor Guts.
    Then again, I could be missing something from Guts, but I don’t think there’s anything that puts him on Kratos’ level.
    /
    …Why are there tubes on Kratos for his picture?

  3. MatthiasTheWanderer May 18, 2015 at 1:08 am -      #3

    I’ve decided to take a breather for a while, but I will point out that Death Battle has run segments on both of them. Not against each other, but they seem pretty popular around here, so I figured everyone could use them as a starting point.

  4. Alpha or Omega May 18, 2015 at 1:14 am -      #4

    Death Battle has been inaccurate as it has been accurate.
    However, I will admit that they decently covered both Kratos and Guts, but they didn’t cover exactly everything.

  5. Friendlysociopath May 18, 2015 at 1:26 am -      #5

    …Why are there tubes on Kratos for his picture?

    Turns out Kratos’ real name is Tom, he was looking for answers- he thought the world he was in wasn’t real; and then he was given a message, “Follow the white rabbit.”

    Does Regular Guts not have Berserk Armor? Crap, I think Kratos can tear him a new one without it if that’s true.

  6. Alpha or Omega May 18, 2015 at 1:52 am -      #6

    What does that make Zeus then?
    Agent Spark?
    /
    Guts without Berserk Armor has explosives, an arm the shoots a mini-cannon ball and arrows, and knives.
    Kratos has weapons that practically matches and counters Guts.
    Though, he doesn’t have explosives, his trade off is magic and soul stealing weapons(though, this is done by stabbing people and hoping they don’t resist a lot)

  7. Limbo Lowk May 18, 2015 at 4:33 am -      #7

    Guts hides and snipes Kratos when his back is turned… Yeah, I got nothin.

  8. tigeronyx May 18, 2015 at 8:07 am -      #8

    I’d honestly call both rounds a tie. Guts gets himself killed by diving onto Kratos’ swords deliberately to get close enough to kill him. What gets most people is the fact that they want to hurt without getting hurt, but because Guts doesn’t have that problem he has a HUGE advantage over most fighters, but because he’s fighting Kratos I think that Guts’ tactivc will end up killing them both.

  9. hellboy147 May 18, 2015 at 11:16 am -      #9

    Interesting match.
    To make it fair, let’s say Kratos cannot grow in God of war form, where he can grow 300 feet tall. But he can use godly powers.

    They both have messed up past.
    Kratos killed his own family, while we know what happened with Guts girlfriend. Both of them are training since they were just the kids. Both of them became the leader of their pack in many battles. At last they kill with no mercy.

  10. Friendlysociopath May 18, 2015 at 12:40 pm -      #10

    Pretty sure base Guts is stronger than base Kratos, Dragonslayer is a massive weapon that he swings pretty freely.

  11. hellboy147 May 18, 2015 at 1:00 pm -      #11

    @friendlysociopath

    Pretty sure blades of exile or Claws of Hades are longer than Dragon slayer (range wise). However, to even up a sword fight, blade of Olympus is a likely weapon that Kratos is going to use.

  12. Nsl98 May 18, 2015 at 4:44 pm -      #12

    Pretty sure base Guts is stronger than base Kratos, Dragonslayer is a massive weapon that he swings pretty freely.

    Really? I kinda thought they were even. I mean, Kratos threw down with the Collusus of Rhodes:
    m.youtube.com/watch?v=BB9FdyIvd1Q

    ^ Pretty good strength and durability.

  13. Amm0vamp1r3 May 18, 2015 at 4:53 pm -      #13

    Which sword is bigger? the Blade of Olympus or The Dragonslayer?

  14. Jake_Uzumaki May 18, 2015 at 5:10 pm -      #14

    This might come down to whose faster so….whose faster between them?

  15. Amm0vamp1r3 May 18, 2015 at 5:16 pm -      #15

    Guts is probably faster, said to look like a blur or a tornado when he’s fighting

  16. Jake_Uzumaki May 18, 2015 at 5:25 pm -      #16

    True but if there’s anything I’ve learned on here its that looking like a blur does not necessarily mean anything when it comes to speed. I’ve seen stuff about him being super and hypersonic but on the other hand I’ve seen debates that him vs Kenshin is a good fight.

  17. Amm0vamp1r3 May 18, 2015 at 5:42 pm -      #17

    True but if there’s anything I’ve learned on here its that looking like a blur does not necessarily mean anything when it comes to speed. I’ve seen stuff about him being super and hypersonic but on the other hand I’ve seen debates that him vs Kenshin is a good fight

    That’s true, him vs kenshin would actually be a pretty good fight but kenshin has a speed advantage over him from his fight with that “God Speed” boy

    anyway on to the feats I could scoop up

    Guts dodging sonic booms
    i.imgur.com/buKw1Ppl.jpg
    not sure how that works but im just posting what the guy said

    there are a lot of links in this debate and im pretty sure it would take too many post to get them all
    forums.spacebattles.com/threads/king-bradley-vs-guts.306293/
    probably find some more later

  18. hellboy147 May 18, 2015 at 6:52 pm -      #18

    “Which sword is bigger? the Blade of Olympus or The Dragonslayer?”
    _

    Kratos height is different in God of war, Soul Calibur and Mortal Kombat but since God of war is his main game the Wiki say he is around 6 to 7 feet tall. Average is 6.6 and blade of Olympus is at least 6.0 feet longer www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9AcOMJDEig 3:40 Kratos is standing on higher ground and the blade is ending almost at his shoulder. Dragon slayer is 6.6 feet tall by looking at death battle.
    _

    “Guts is probably faster, said to look like a blur or a tornado when he’s fighting”
    _
    Movement wise yeah he is faster, But Kratos is on par in reflexes and reaction time. He stopped the attacks from a guy who was teleporting and moving faster than eye can see. According to devs he is a lighting timer as well.
    _
    s1367.photobucket.com/user/StarsNStripesDC/media/gowtwit_zpsa718ebce.png.html
    _
    s1367.photobucket.com/user/StarsNStripesDC/media/twitkratos_zpsb0a1181b.jpg.html
    _
    “^ Pretty good strength and durability.”
    _
    Kratos is league above in strength department, durability is debatable. Both of them can take hell of a beating.and still kick ass.

  19. Limbo Lowk May 18, 2015 at 7:20 pm -      #19

    “Guts is probably faster, said to look like a blur or a tornado when he’s fighting”

    He can move faster than an arrow in burst.

  20. Jake_Uzumaki May 18, 2015 at 9:08 pm -      #20

    Since Guts is apparently viable this makes me wonder how Samurai Jack vs Kratos would go.

  21. Limbo Lowk May 18, 2015 at 9:21 pm -      #21

    “Since Guts is apparently viable this makes me wonder how Samurai Jack vs Kratos would go.”

    I would not call this viable.

  22. Jake_Uzumaki May 18, 2015 at 9:31 pm -      #22

    Well its not being called an out and out stomp yet at any rate (though it may very well be).

    That said would Jack vs Kratos work?

  23. hellboy147 May 18, 2015 at 9:38 pm -      #23

    @Jake

    Yeh it’s a good one, I had this one in my mind. Also Aku vs Alucard from hellsing

  24. Jake_Uzumaki May 18, 2015 at 9:42 pm -      #24

    might suggest it then, don’t think we’ve had a good Samurai Jack match in a while

  25. Kuja9001 May 19, 2015 at 10:49 am -      #25

    This is a major mismatch. What person thought it was cool to go ahead and post this?

  26. Aelfinn May 19, 2015 at 8:58 pm -      #26

    Honestly, I feel like Berserker Armor Guts vs. Normal Kratos would have been a better fight. It would add some more “supernatural” aspects to Guts while keeping both in “current” incarnation.
    =
    “According to devs he is a lighting timer as well.”

    He said the flip is an accurate portrayal, not that it was inherently natural lightning-dodging. Magical lightning (and possibly magical lightning aim-dodging), mah man.
    =
    From what I know, though…Guts should have a speed advantage, what with dealing with a Mach-speed creature and generally fighting greater-numbers of enemies at any particular time. Relatively slight advantage, I should add, considering Kratos does do some pretty-impossible things for normal humans.
    =
    Fighting things stronger than him is kind of Guts’ forte (of course, it’s also Kratos’), and I don’t think Kratos’ strength advantage isn’t anything Guts hasn’t faced before. I think Kratos’ best feat is resisting Cronos’ hand, and Kratos definitely didn’t feel the full weight of it.
    =
    =
    Just trying to play Devil’s Advocate here…

  27. hellboy147 May 20, 2015 at 12:17 am -      #27

    “Magical lightning (and possibly magical lightning aim-dodging), mah man.”
    _

    It reached the earth in less than a second, accurate enough to describe real lighting speed.

    “Kratos’ best feat is resisting Cronos’ hand”
    _

    Tossed Colossus of Rodes of Him, Stopped leviathan’s Claw, otherwise, he would have pierced into two pieces, Both strength and Speed feat. Overpower hydra.
    _
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ompKbegok 1:15 ignore Cronos hand feat, Look at that one , Kratos was in such an awkward position and stopped it with left hand. yep he is right-handed, I can proof that lol

  28. Limbo Lowk May 20, 2015 at 1:15 am -      #28

    So I was thinking Ah Gou had a fight with Percy Jackson and I think he won. Would Ah Gou vs Kratos be a logical next step?

  29. Kitten Lord May 20, 2015 at 5:20 am -      #29

    @Hellboy

    “Tossed Colossus of Rodes of Him, Stopped leviathan’s Claw, otherwise, he would have pierced into two pieces, Both strength and Speed feat. Overpower hydra.”

    The Rhodes feat was while he still had some of his godly power.

  30. Nsl98 May 20, 2015 at 9:06 am -      #30

    So I was thinking Ah Gou had a fight with Percy Jackson and I think he won. Would Ah Gou vs Kratos be a logical next step?

    Didn’t Percy beat Kratos too? And Ah Ghu might stomp that due to speed. Doesn’t he react to people who cross continents in seconds or something?

  31. Ragnorke May 20, 2015 at 10:49 am -      #31

    “It reached the earth in less than a second, accurate enough to describe real lighting speed.”

    Average clouds are 4,000m high.

    Real lightning travels at 99930819 m/s.

    It would take real lightning 0.00004 seconds to reach the ground.

    For those of you that aren’t too good at comprehending small decimal numbers, that means real lightning can strike the ground 25 thousand times in a second.

    If the lightning shown actually took “just” less than a second, it probably isn’t comparable to real lightning in any way.
    I understand designers and animators shouldn’t be expected to be THAT accurate with their animations, and it’s their intentions that matter, but if the difference is something like 1 – 25,000… It isn’t accurate enough. Sorry.

  32. hellboy147 May 20, 2015 at 2:58 pm -      #32

    @Ragnorke
    _

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL0yGwYAots It reached the earth in way less than a second actually, For a game that released in 2007 the animations are very well good. The whole purpose of this ad is to show he is dodging lighting attack.
    _
    “Didn’t Percy beat Kratos too?”
    _
    Unfinished match, last time I debated both of them can kill each other.

  33. Limbo Lowk May 20, 2015 at 3:16 pm -      #33

    “Doesn’t he react to people who cross continents in seconds or something?”

    So far he hasn’t fought either of the people with those speed feats.

  34. Nsl98 May 20, 2015 at 4:13 pm -      #34

    So far he hasn’t fought either of the people with those speed feats.

    Oh. So, he beat Percy cuz of strength? I guess I misunderstood the thread.

    You shoul suggest it, Ghu looked to be pretty powerful.

  35. Aelfinn May 20, 2015 at 5:05 pm -      #35

    “The whole purpose of this ad is to show he is dodging lighting attack.”

    Right, but it’s a magical lightning attack that clearly isn’t moving as fast as lightning. It’s possible to pause the video so that the lightning is still in midair.
    =
    Guts is strong enough to fight through at least part of Femto’s reality manipulation, and THAT was strong enough to turn demon’s into a little tennis ball of blood (which is pretty damn strong). The gap between Kratos and Guts is probably smaller than what we initially thought.

  36. tigeronyx May 21, 2015 at 7:03 am -      #36

    If there’s anything we know about Guts it’s that he’s not going to let a little something like logic dictate a fight. He’s fought and won countless fights that honestly I think Kratos would have a little trouble with. Plus, as I stated before, Kratos wants to live, Guts doesn’t, which gives him some form of advantage. My money is on Guts to win here.

  37. hellboy147 May 21, 2015 at 12:08 pm -      #37

    “He’s fought and won countless fights that honestly I think Kratos would have a little trouble with.”
    _

    Have guts ever put in a position where he is about to get crush by a Titan?
    _
    ” Plus, as I stated before, Kratos wants to live”
    _

    He was living to get revenge on Zeus, He even tried to kill himself in the end. The point is Both Guts and Kratos are strong will.
    _
    “but it’s a magical lightning attack that clearly isn’t moving as fast as lightning. It’s possible to pause the video so that the lightning is still in midair.”
    _

    Still puts him in Massively Hypersonic range, Is it even possible to show real lighting in animation? That ad was released in 2007.

  38. Aelfinn May 22, 2015 at 4:00 pm -      #38

    “Still puts him in Massively Hypersonic range,”

    Not really. While you’re right that the lightning might still be “massively hypersonic”, if you still have, say half a second to react to it, that’s still half a second, regardless of how fast the projectile was moving. It’s not like he reacted to a “massively hypersonic” projectile from like 10 meters away, which is about the range required to declare that someone has “hypersonic RT”.

  39. tigeronyx May 27, 2015 at 5:12 pm -      #39

    @hellboy
    Guts may not have been attacked by a titan, however he did climb inside a God on a similar scale to a titan and kill it from the inside, and has survived single combat with a seemingly immortal demon, and despite both characters being strong willed, I still think that Guts is slightly more stubborn. He almost allowed himself to get decapitated just to prove a point. Not technically a feat, but I think that if it came down to a fight that should be factored in somewhere.

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