Harry Potter Vs Captain Rex

Harry Potter Vs Captain Rex

Suggested by Nsl98

Harry Potter (Harry Potter) will go up against Captain Rex (Star Wars)

Standard Gear for both, they fight in Tallahassee.

Who wins?

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62 Comments on "Harry Potter Vs Captain Rex"

  1. Amm0vamp1r3 May 22, 2015 at 1:09 am -      #1

    I’m going to go with the guy with the blaster, just off principle

  2. Commander Cross May 22, 2015 at 1:14 am -      #2

    How many blasters does Rex got on him?
    Best I got to note, regardless of whether or not In-game spells are allowed, is Accio’ing the guns ASAP.
    Which is half the fighting I know, but c’mon here, there’s a matter with how to drive out EoS Darquesse and now this has to arrive at the same week!?

    When’s the next Dot Hack-related fight coming in?
    T_T

    I’d have been more than willing to find more unique images if whoever suggested this fight just talked to me.
    Nsl, are you trying to kill me here before 2022 happens?

    Well I’ll go get my swords and shotguns ready, and maybe a Revolver or a Paintball gun with Frozen Ammo too while I’m at it.

    Aeon Christ and Supreme Monad*, have mercy on us in here. T_T

    1.) (Yet ANOTHER of the Big-G Man Himself’s names right there.)

  3. Neon Lord May 22, 2015 at 2:07 am -      #3

    This all depends on whether spells can ‘go through’ armour.

    In a close quarters environment though. Rex should take this most times even if he can be affected by spells

  4. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 2:19 am -      #4

    Well I think a major argument against potter in his fight with a Space Marine was that the armor would block most lethal spells..could be wrong its been a while.

  5. TheSorrow May 22, 2015 at 3:19 am -      #5

    We’ve never seen a wizard go up against a well armored opponent have we? Regardless, I think the man engineered to be a warrior and the distinct technological advantage will win the day.

  6. Parry Boy May 22, 2015 at 3:24 am -      #6

    Well, people in the HP universe have at least once hid away behind a thing to block a spell, I think.
    If so, then Rex takes this one.

  7. TheSorrow May 22, 2015 at 3:29 am -      #7

    Sorry meant to say: “We’ve never seen a wizard go up against a well armored opponent *in canon have we?”

  8. Nsl98 May 22, 2015 at 9:35 am -      #8

    Doesn’t Harry know what guns are?

    Rex’s pistols resemble guns, if he pulls out those, Harry should be able to pull out a Protego spell.

  9. Kara Zor-El May 22, 2015 at 9:56 am -      #9

    Rex fires one lone bolt, hits Potter dead between the eyes and the match is over.

  10. GrandMaster May 22, 2015 at 10:00 am -      #10

    While Harry does have some spells capable of disrupting Rex, he has to get through his armor to put him down for good. And all Rex needs is 1 hit to put Harry down.

  11. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 11:20 am -      #11

    Why do we keep putting Potter in solo matches where he’s massively outgunned? Has he had a single completely even fight?

  12. Nsl98 May 22, 2015 at 11:25 am -      #12

    Why do we keep putting Potter in solo matches where he’s massively outgunned?

    Cuz it’s fun.😄

    In all seriousness, I legit thought this was fair, since Harry has Reducto and Sectumsempra. And since, as far as I knew, Rex was just a slightly more trained/awesome Clone Trooper. With good gear.

    Has he had a single completely even fight?

    Hunger Games was his most even, iirc.

  13. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 11:46 am -      #13

    It depends, you said their fighting in Tallahasse do they start in front of each other or opposite sides of town?

    Yeah but that was a what if more than a fight..

  14. Commander Cross May 22, 2015 at 12:41 pm -      #14

    @Nsl98 at #12

    You’re out to kill me and out to bring some Dark Lords back, here let me get ready to do something horrific on TMI just to make you feel all better.

    You never cleared up a single starting point either, and why THG when the movies for that world flat-out DOWNPLAY the Muttations something fierce so far? -_-

    That don’t even make sense as of late.

  15. MatthiasTheWanderer May 22, 2015 at 12:49 pm -      #15

    It’s because for all his popularity, Harry Potter characters just don’t have combat feats that are all that impressive. The books are hugely fun to read, but aside from Voldemort and Dumbledore, nobody’s much more powerful than an extremely well trained muggle. Now, question, would standard gear include the invisibility cloak?

    As an aside, where can I find that picture of Harry? I’ve seen it before but I can never find a source.

  16. Nsl98 May 22, 2015 at 12:52 pm -      #16

    Well, I had a whole scenario written out, but I must’ve forgot to put it in the email.

    “They start at opposing sides of the city, and are tasked with hunting the other down.”

    And the Hunger Games is the fairest he’s been treated so far, imo

  17. batman3.14 May 22, 2015 at 1:04 pm -      #17

    Pretty sure Rex can dodge Potter’s attacks all day long- he has dodged plenty of shots from multiple battle droids at a time which is an impressive feat in this scenario (How fast do blaster shots travel in comparison to spells?) Rex also is military trained and, at least I would say, has a more tactical mind. Harry never struck me as a war genius.

  18. Friendlysociopath May 22, 2015 at 1:14 pm -      #18

    It would be easier if Rowling had stayed with how she originally presented magic as actual spells.

    In the first couple of books many of the spells were not implied to have any sort of travel-time or any sort of “sparkler” shot. It was more magic, less realism.

    And then the movies started, and since just waving a wand wasn’t going to be fun enough for the big screen, everything started involving little beams of magic instead so that everyone could follow them. Thus Harry’s doom was sealed for matches like this, for anyone could dodge spells in order for Harry and his team not to be murdered easily by the superior wizards and witches.

    Don’t believe me? I cite apparation, turning in place and vanishing with a small noise. Then look at apparation in the movies- colossal columns of black and white smoke that fly around to look pretty!
    Right, rant over.

    Now, question, would standard gear include the invisibility cloak?

    Yeah, as of book 7 Harry carries that thing everywhere; he can also enchant an area so that Rex simply doesn’t want to go there.

  19. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 1:37 pm -      #19

    @Nsl98
    Also is this legends or Disney Rex?

  20. Nsl98 May 22, 2015 at 2:10 pm -      #20

    @Jake
    Did Rex do anything of relevance in Legends?

    It can be Disney Rex, until I hear more of what Legends Rex did.

  21. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 3:01 pm -      #21

    Disney: starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CT-7567/Canon
    Legends: starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CT-7567

  22. Friendlysociopath May 22, 2015 at 3:53 pm -      #22

    It also doesn’t help that Harry really doesn’t have a real MO for fighting like this, almost every time he fights it’s alongside allies or with prep.
    We know he’s fond of several spells though:
    Protego: Conjures up shield of force; used normally for deflecting spells, strong spells will still break through partially.
    Expelliarmus: Disarms targeted foe, I don’t think we ever actually see this spell dodged though.
    Impedimenta: Pretty much it ‘stops’ what it hits; with enough power behind it it will also throw what it hits backwards.
    Confringo: Whatever it hits explodes.
    ^Note: That’s the spell Peter used to blast the street apart when Sirius confronted him; Harry should be more than capable of a similar feat.
    Petrificus Totalus: Full-body paralysis
    Sectumsempra: Cuts the enemy as if an invisible sword hit them
    Stupefy: Stuns the person it hits
    Reductor: Blasts target into a fine dust, works on desks, pillars, statues, and people.
    ^Note: Appears to be a bit of an AoE spell when sufficient shits are given
    img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140408215540/harrypotter/images/2/2e/Tumblr_mqzotsyRAi1rgnynlo4_r3_250.gif

    Harry also knows how to use both Imperio and Crucio, curses that grant mind control and cause apparently unbearable pain to the victim.

    Not sure how much any of that is useful except that I’ll point out that Harry has been entirely fine with attacking people while invisible several times in the series.

  23. Epicazeroth May 22, 2015 at 4:17 pm -      #23

    @Nsl: “Doesn’t Harry know what guns are?”
    No. Well, Wizards at least literally do not know what guns are – they call them “metal wands”. Harry, being raised a Muggle, probably would.

    “They start at opposing sides of the city, and are tasked with hunting the other down.”
    Harry has absolutely no experience with stealth or urban combat. Rex does.
    ===
    @Friendly: “Then look at apparation in the movies”
    …where it’s often turning in place and vanishing with a small noise.

    “Harry has been entirely fine with attacking people while invisible”
    Does the Cloak count as “Standard Equipment”?
    ===
    @Matthias: “Now, question, would standard gear include the invisibility cloak?”
    Does the Cloak hide heat signatures?
    ===
    Actually, does anyone know whether Rex’s gear includes heat-vision mode?

    I’m pretty sure the only spells Harry usually uses that would work here are kinetic ones. Explosive ones should work, but Rex’s armor might block them. Unless Harry is bloodlusted, in which case in becomes a case of whether Curses work through armor.

    Also, do the movies count as canon? Are they generally counted in HP matches?

  24. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 4:22 pm -      #24

    “Actually, does anyone know whether Rex’s gear includes heat-vision mode?”

    That might depend on what canon and period Rex is in.

  25. Friendlysociopath May 22, 2015 at 4:37 pm -      #25

    Harry has absolutely no experience with stealth

    Runs around with an invisibility cloak for 7 years, hides from Duddly and his friends rather successfully without magic for 12 years.
    Breaks into 3 different government installations.
    “absolutely no experience with stealth”

    …where it’s often turning in place and vanishing with a small noise.

    youtu.be/Y8zMOvKPI3Y?t=2m1s
    and then there’s all the times it isn’t, purely to look better.

    Does the Cloak count as “Standard Equipment”?

    As of book 7 Harry uses it more than his actual wand; it’s standard equipment. Too bad he lost the firebolt, that thing could 150mph.

    Also, do the movies count as canon? Are they generally counted in HP matches?

    Canon for Harry Potter goes-
    Books > Movies > supplementary works
    Anything that doesn’t clash with higher canon is canon; meaning a ton of spells Harry knows in video games actually could be used.

    Explosive ones should work, but Rex’s armor might block them.

    His armor would be the thing that explodes, not sure that counts as “blocking”.

  26. Epicazeroth May 22, 2015 at 4:58 pm -      #26

    @Friendly: “Runs around with an invisibility cloak for 7 years”
    Invisibility is not stealth.

    “hides from Duddly and his friends rather successfully without magic for 12 years.”
    I did not know that. My bad.

    “Breaks into 3 different government installations.”
    1) Doesn’t he teleport usually?
    2) The Ministry of Magic is not the most competent organization security-wise. Do they even have security?

    “and then there’s all the times it isn’t, purely to look better.”
    Film is a visual medium. It’d be weird if they just kind of ceased to be there. Though it works very well in the Ender’s Game books.

    “His armor would be the thing that explodes, not sure that counts as “blocking”.”
    I was talking about the ones that create fire/explosions where they’re pointed. I forgot about Confringo(sp?).

  27. Friendlysociopath May 22, 2015 at 5:09 pm -      #27

    Invisibility is not stealth.

    You typed that with a straight face?

    1) Doesn’t he teleport usually?

    Only in the general vicinity before the subterfuge begins.

    2) The Ministry of Magic is not the most competent organization security-wise. Do they even have security?

    Supposedly, if not the first Ministry then definitely Voldemort’s Ministry did.

    Film is a visual medium.

    I know, that’s why so many spells ceased to be magic that just happened and instead became little streams of light instead.
    That’s why a generous portion of Hogwarts vs Camp Half-Blood became “Which spells stand a chance of being landed?”

    I was talking about the ones that create fire/explosions where they’re pointed

    Confringo makes them explode, sometimes with fire, sometimes without. Hit a chair? Chair explodes. Hit armor? Armor explodes, possibly person inside of it too.
    Reducto turns them into ash/fine mist.
    The armor may or may not be enough to fully deal with those if they were to hit him.

  28. Nsl98 May 22, 2015 at 6:22 pm -      #28

    @Jake
    Help me out a bit with those entries. I’m nor quite getting it…

    Canon Rex isn’t allowed Clone Wars feats? Or he is old now in current incarnation?

  29. Alphastriker May 22, 2015 at 6:26 pm -      #29

    I say Rex here, unless HP can penetrate armor. If so, excuse me as I didn’t bother to read the above.

  30. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 6:44 pm -      #30

    @Nsl98
    Canon Rex only gets the CG clone wars and current is old
    Legends I’m not sure what his last incarnation before death was and he has everything he’s appeared in.

  31. Epicazeroth May 22, 2015 at 6:56 pm -      #31

    @Friendly: “You typed that with a straight face?”
    Invisibility is when people literally can’t see you. I’m talking about stealth as a skill. Invisibility certainly helps, but just being invisible doesn’t mean you know how to make yourself harder to find. Though with that “hid from Dudley” thing I’ll concede that Harry has at least some skill in stealth.
    ===
    @Jake: “Canon Rex only gets the CG clone wars and current is old”
    He hasn’t appeared in Rebels yet. Isn’t it unfair to make his current incarnation one where he only appeared in a trailer? The show isn’t even out yet.

  32. Nsl98 May 22, 2015 at 6:59 pm -      #32

    @Jake
    Ah, I see. It just seemed like I was reading the same article, only the canon one was shorter.

    We can go with Disney version, doesn’t change much, does it?

  33. Friendlysociopath May 22, 2015 at 7:01 pm -      #33

    I say Rex here, unless HP can penetrate armor.

    Not sure most of his magic would care about the armor to be honest.

    What exactly was the argument in the Space Marine thread that said Harry couldn’t get through the armor? Most of his spells can be blocked by objects at the cost of the object; not in spite of it.

    Er, that came out wrong- try this,
    The spell hitting the armor means the spell would effect the armor, which for all intents and purposes is just as good as hitting the actual person.

    Too bad Rowling didn’t give us some stories about adult Auror Harry, that would give him a chance for some actual badassery.

  34. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 7:30 pm -      #34

    @Nsl98
    it gives him fewer feats, and I don’t think disney canon gives any weapons specifications.

    @Epic
    my bad, didn’t know those episodes hadn’t aired yet.

    @Friendly
    I’ll check and see if I can find it

  35. Nsl98 May 22, 2015 at 8:13 pm -      #35

    OK, Legends Rex it is then.

    Harry still has those blasting curses to fall back on, like Reducto and that other one.

  36. Marshy88 May 22, 2015 at 9:55 pm -      #36

    Harry- EXPELE-

    Shot before even killing him…

    P.s. He has two blaster pistols and (possibly) a regular one too.

  37. Friendlysociopath May 22, 2015 at 10:53 pm -      #37

    I don’t think the invisibility cloak blocks Harry’s heat signature, so if Rex has thermal vision he’ll be able to see Harry no problem.

    And while Harry has not perfected nonverbal spells, he certainly doesn’t need to shout them; if he’s invisible he can just whisper the word with the same effect.

    It helps that Harry would be defensive right off the bat so long as general enemy info includes, “He has guns”.
    Harry knows full and well how dangerous that makes his enemy and would plan accordingly; namely, not charging him screaming spells.

  38. Sauroposeidon May 22, 2015 at 11:07 pm -      #38

    Harry Potter vs a T-Rex. There. There’s a fair match. Suggest that.

  39. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 11:13 pm -      #39

    I doubt either will go charging anyway, Harry should be too smart for that. And Rex’s info will probably say some kind of magic soldier or something like that..considering he deals with Jedi on a regular basis he’ll probably be wary of a direct attack too.

    @NSl98
    Is the city uninhabited or are there people? It could alter how they both react and hunt for each other and how easy it may or may not be to find each other.
    Harry gets a bit of an edge if its populated as he can blend in far more easily and his heat signature won’t stand out if it comes to that, where Rex gets an edge if its uninhabited I think his drop down visor has vision modes and a motion detector but I could be wrong.

  40. Nsl98 May 22, 2015 at 11:15 pm -      #40

    Inhabited

    So, transfiguring Rex’s guns.
    Yay or Nay?

    Edit: changed to inhabited, had a bit of a brain fart.

  41. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 11:21 pm -      #41

    @Sauro
    That sounds fun at least.

  42. Nsl98 May 22, 2015 at 11:28 pm -      #42

    Wouldn’t the spells bounce off of the T-Rex’s superior skin?

    They bounced off of Hagrid, iirc.

  43. Epicazeroth May 22, 2015 at 11:40 pm -      #43

    @Nsl: Won’t the police arrest or shoot both of them if Harry and Rex start fighting? For that matter, would either even fire a shot? Neither would want to hurt civilians; though Rex could theoretically snipe Harry.

    Unless it’s during FreeCon or ALTCon, Harry has a small chance of being unnoticed, but Rex sticks out like a sore thumb. Pardon the cliche.

    Spells bounce off Hagrid because Giants are mostly immune to magic. So Hagrid is… half-mostly immune?

  44. Nsl98 May 22, 2015 at 11:45 pm -      #44

    How about two scenarios:
    One populated, one unpopulated.

    Btw, I suggested HP vs T Rex

  45. Friendlysociopath May 23, 2015 at 12:06 am -      #45

    One populated, one unpopulated.

    Sort of depends on what Rex has, anyone have a link or something to what sensors he canonically has? Infrared? Radar? Geo-sensor?
    Any of those would let him detect Harry but if he doesn’t have anything like that Harry just has to sneak up on him and whisper a spell for the win.
    Populated or not would become pointless.

    Now, if he does have those things; Harry can easily get close enough to end him in a populated version since Harry is just like anyone else to those sensors.
    In an unpopulated place Harry will obviously be the only one who could be picked up. Harry is not at all familiar with that level of tech (actually I think he does know about radar) and so wouldn’t be prepared for Rex to turn and shoot.

    Btw, I suggested HP vs T Rex

    Er, well that’s going to be damn difficult to prove anything Harry has would do anything to something that big.
    I know Fleur and Krum managed to actually hurt the dragons with their spells…

  46. Jake_Uzumaki May 23, 2015 at 12:28 am -      #46

    “Sort of depends on what Rex has, anyone have a link or something to what sensors he canonically has?”

    According to Star Wars: The Clone Wars: The Visual Guide (based on the CG series so canon for either version of Rex) and the Star Wars the Clone Wars novelization his helmets systems include a visor with an inbuilt telemetry system, a pair of removable spot lamps with a viewing range of forty feet, infrared vision, an array of sensors, an internal comlink, visual and auditory buffers, and a heads-up display with thermal imaging and biosign indicators.

  47. Nsl98 May 23, 2015 at 12:44 am -      #47

    Some Rex feats:
    m.youtube.com/watch?v=1KYOEGFXYlI

    0:30-dodging blaster bolt
    1:15-gets flung around by a fairly large animal
    2:50-dodging more bolts

  48. Friendlysociopath May 23, 2015 at 1:25 am -      #48

    and a heads-up display with thermal imaging and biosign indicators.

    Gonna say Harry is most likely very boned then; I don’t know for sure what the range of his spells is but I’m willing to bet it’s not as far as a blaster.

  49. Jake_Uzumaki May 23, 2015 at 1:40 am -      #49

    @Friendly
    well in the uninhabited city round anyway, in the inhabited round unless Rex eventually notices a heat blip or biosign blip that doesn’t register to his eyes. Plus an athletically built man in head to toe body armor is hard to miss compared to a somewhat average looking man in usually normal looking clothes with a scar on his forehead. Rex would have to spot the scar or know to look for something that wasn’t there, Harry would just have to spot the guy in glistening white and blue space armor.

  50. MatthiasTheWanderer May 23, 2015 at 12:18 pm -      #50

    I know this might be a bit late, but on the subject of stealth: The ministry’s security isn’t terribly impressive, but dodging Dudley is far from the best feat Harry has. I’ll remind you, he also infiltrated Gringots, and they have MUCH more stringent security measures. Also, do we have any evidence either way as to whether or not the cloak would block heat signatures, life signs, etc? It’s supposed to be deaths own cloak, and I don’t recall any instance where that would be tested.

  51. Nsl98 May 23, 2015 at 12:50 pm -      #51

    deaths own cloak,

    Didn’t Dumbledore confirm that Death wasn’t real and that the Peverell’s were just good wizards?

  52. Jake_Uzumaki May 23, 2015 at 1:16 pm -      #52

    @Nsl98
    yes. That’s been discussed many times on here.

  53. Jake_Uzumaki May 23, 2015 at 1:40 pm -      #53

    Deathly Hallows page 314
    “So it’s true?” asked Harry. “All of it? The Peverell brothers—-”
    “—–were the three brothers of the tale,” said Dumbledore, nodding. “Oh yes, I think so. Whether they met Death on that lonely road…I think it more likely that the Peverell brothers were simply gifted, dangerous wizards who succeeded in creating those powerful objects. The story of them being Death’s own Hallows seems to me the sort of legend that might have sprung up around such creations.”

  54. Friendlysociopath May 23, 2015 at 1:49 pm -      #54

    Honestly, while it’s entirely possible the Invisibility Cloak blocks heat signatures and whatnot- we have no way to back that up at all as technology is more or less entirely removed from the HPverse so far as books are concerned.

    well in the uninhabited city round anyway

    That’s what I meant, pretty much all of Harry’s fighting experience is against wizards; we barely even know the range of his spells so trying to debate him even having the range to engage Rex is almost impossible.

  55. Nsl98 May 23, 2015 at 2:08 pm -      #55

    @Jake
    yes. That’s been discussed many times on here.

    Oh, really? Guess I’m a few years late.

    Is Harry’s “signature move” (Expelliarmus) a projectile? I remember in the movies just a flash or whatever and the target was disarmed.

  56. Jake_Uzumaki May 23, 2015 at 2:12 pm -      #56

    @Nsl98
    well its been discussed recently too I thought, didn’t it get brought up in the Camp Halfblood vs Hogwarts match I thought?

  57. Nsl98 May 23, 2015 at 2:23 pm -      #57

    e Camp Halfblood vs Hogwarts match I thought?

    I honestly don’t recall much about that thread. Lots of stuff was thrown around, for pages at a time (what spells could hit/work, Percy soloing, FF potion, etc etc). Pretty sure some major contention was generated, and that took a while to cool off.

    From what I gather, Books > Movies in HP Canon, though both are. So if anyone has any passages about Expelliarmus in hand, that’d be cool.

  58. MatthiasTheWanderer May 26, 2015 at 2:02 pm -      #58

    “Didn’t Dumbledore confirm that Death wasn’t real and that the Peverell’s were just good wizards?”

    It was his guess on the matter, not confirmation. No real confirmation exists either way, but I didn’t know it had come up before.

  59. Friendlysociopath May 26, 2015 at 2:36 pm -      #59

    It was his guess on the matter, not confirmation.

    Considering we only go by feats- the creator of the cloak is largely irrelevant.
    It’s one of those things that you can only ever decide for yourself; considering they have a literal room that holds the Power of Love- I don’t find the idea of Death walking around that unlikely.

    From what I gather, Books > Movies in HP Canon, though both are. So if anyone has any passages about Expelliarmus in hand, that’d be cool.

    It’s hit and miss, sometimes she wrote in jets of light- other times she didn’t. Many spells just involve waving a wand and then the effect; here’s 5 spells used within the same few pages

    Harry swung his wand high, but Malfoy had already started on “two”: His spell hit Harry so hard he felt as though he’d been hit over the head with a saucepan.

    He stumbled, but everything still seemed to be working, and wasting no more time, Harry pointed his wand straight at Malfoy and shouted. A jet of silver light hit Malfoy in the stomach and he doubled up, wheezing.”

    “gasping for breath, Malfoy pointed his wand at Harry’s knees, choked, “Tarantallegra!” and the next second Harry’s legs began to jerk around out of his control in a kind of quickstep.

    “Stop! Stop!” screamed Lockhart, but Snape took charge.
    “Finite Incantatem!” he shouted; Harry’s feet stopped dancing, Malfoy stopped laughing, and they were able to look up.

    He brandished his wand at the snake and there was a loud bang; the snake, instead of
    vanishing, flew ten feet into the air and fell back to the floor with a loud smack.


    So we have:
    Nothing
    Jet of light
    Nothing
    Nothing (although green smoke is mentioned- nothing directly struck Harry or Malfoy)
    and a ‘Bang’.

    Expeliarmus is no different, when Snake uses it on Lockhart it’s said there was a flash of crimson light.
    When Harry uses it on Malfoy, nothing happens but the disarming.
    And then later he uses on Lockhart with enough force to blast him into a wall, still no mention of a flash of light.

    Then when they use it in book 3…
    “Expelliarmus!” he croaked, pointing Ron’s wand at them.
    Harry’s and Hermione’s wands shot out of their hands, high in the air, and Black caught them.

    “Expelliarmus!” Lupin shouted.
    Harry’s wand flew once more out of his hand; so did the two Hermione was holding. Lupin caught them all deftly, then moved into the room, staring at Black, who still had Crookshanks lying protectively across his chest.


    Again, no mention of flashes of light.

  60. Jake_Uzumaki May 26, 2015 at 3:14 pm -      #60

    Since Dumbledore was….dead and in the afterlife at this point though wouldn’t he….know if Death was walking around or not since….Death according to the legend actually came to collect souls? Seems like someone in the afterlife would be a good source on whether or not a Grim Reaper collected him.

  61. Friendlysociopath May 26, 2015 at 3:38 pm -      #61

    Seems like someone in the afterlife would be a good source on whether or not a Grim Reaper collected him.

    I actually have that expansion book, Death only ever shows up for those 3 wizards because they cheated him; everyone else just dies regularly.

    Let’s remember some things for a second-
    There are actual Ghosts running around in HP-verse.
    And the dead come back from the dead to talk to you; both from wands and that stone.
    And that dying from old age is apparently not a thing since Dumbledore is how old again?
    Oh, and that archway that Sirius falls through? Literally a divider between the realms of the dead and the living; as old or older than the Ministry of Magic itself. (Rowling was surprised people didn’t get that- no shit nobody could guess exactly what it was without anything other than “Oh, a veil!”)

    Not entirely related, but they also can travel back in time, to the point where they have rules and even an entire cabinet full of the devices you can use to do so.
    And they gave one to a 3rd year student just so she could take more classes.

  62. Jake_Uzumaki May 26, 2015 at 5:03 pm -      #62

    “There are actual Ghosts running around in HP-verse.”

    Which are imprints that are only created by people that are afraid to die. Nearly Headless Nick also outright stated he knows nothing of the secrets of Death and we know that ghosts can never pass on.

    “both from wands”

    Which only happens if wands with twin cores clash in a duel and one of those wands has been used to kill, and they are memories of the killing spell used by said wand, and Harry wasn’t sure if it was a Ghost or not because it seemed too solid and Dumbledore said they were just echos or shadows.

    As to the Resurrection Stone Harry says they were similar to the Riddle fragment in the Diary and from what we actually see them do they seem to be personal Patroni formed from memories of the people you loved instead of being a spirit animal. Its notable that all they ever say are things Harry would want to hear or his own feelings, that death is quick and painless, Lupin saying that he wants it over (which Harry did want) and saying that they wouldn’t leave him and stay with him till the end (said end being when he drops the stone cutting the power to the spell essentially) they drive off Dementors and their effects and the only difference between them and a normal Patronus seems to be that only the user can see them.

    As to the veil, while it is a portal to the afterlife (a one way portal mind) is as old ad the Ministry and is used to study death according to Rowling.
    “JKR: The veil’s been there as long as the Ministry of Magic has been there, and the Ministry of Magic has been there, not as long as Hogwarts, but a long time. We’re talking hundreds of years. It’s not particularly important to know exactly when, but centuries, definitely.

    MA: Was it used as an execution chamber or just studying?

    JKR: No, it’s just studying. The Department of Mysteries is all about studying. They study the mind, the universe, death…”
    www.accio-quote.org/articles/2005/0705-tlc_mugglenet-anelli-3.htm
    which may imply Wizards made it


    Also you may be able to take something from the fact that Rowling said that Voldemort’s fear would cause a Boggart not to become the Specter of Death, but of his own dead body. Not sure if there is anything to be taken from it but its there.


    As to old age….
    Way back in book 1 Dumbledore implied Nicholas Flamel and his wife would die of old age eventually once their supply of Elixir of Life ran out.

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