Daredevil Vs Batman

Daredevil Vs Batman

Suggested by Nsl98

Daredevil (Marvel) will go up against Batman (DC Comics)

Scenario 1:  MCU DD, Nolanverse Bats

Scenario 2:  Current Comic Versions

Both fights are in NYC at night.

Who wins?

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124 Comments on "Daredevil Vs Batman"

  1. Amm0vamp1r3 May 21, 2015 at 12:10 am -      #1

    Didn’t we do this already?

  2. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 12:13 am -      #2

    Well the MCU part is different at least. factpile.com/1205-daredevil-vs-batman/
    MCU Daredevil vs Kingpin

  3. Commander Cross May 21, 2015 at 12:13 am -      #3

    We’re gonna use the Batman that’s wiped Batman across the floor, obviously.

    When does Daredevil get his own incarnation battle royale/Incarnation F.F.A for good measure so we can go find the Daredevil that’s beaten Daredevil for good measure?

    Well at least they’re using the Live-Action versions of both sides in this matter.

    Is MCU Daredevil faster or stronger than 616 Daredevil as well, or only above Ultimate Daredevil?

  4. pimpmage May 21, 2015 at 12:23 am -      #4

    Umm, daredevil relies on super hearing right? Would something like a flash grenade disorient him?

  5. Alpha or Omega May 21, 2015 at 12:33 am -      #5

    As much as I like how Daredevil was done in the MCU and the show itself, I think Nolan Batman has the slight edge.
    /
    However, Daredevil should be partially knife proof and partially bullet proof according to the guy who made Daredevil’s suit. And, that suit looks pretty B.A.
    MCU Daredevil’s radar sense should allow him to detect Batman if he tries to sneak up on him.
    Can Nolan-verse Batman change his temperature and control his heart beat?
    /
    However, Batman does obviously have better equipment here compared to Daredevil.
    His suit, IIRC, is pretty much better equipped to deal with bullets than Daredevil’s(but not knives like when he got stabbed).
    His suit also has that cape which allows gliding, can cut cars with his arms, and has an electrical charge around it or something.

  6. Nsl98 May 21, 2015 at 12:35 am -      #6

    Nolan Bats feats:
    m.youtube.com/watch?v=XctHIC1ULQo

    ^2:51-3:08, taking out about a dozen dudes in a few seconds.

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=x1ZsiiO3Ymw

    2:48-2:53, jumps onto a moving van and completely halts it.

    And couldn’t MCU DD dodge bullets and arrows?

  7. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 12:43 am -      #7

    Which version? MCU I have no idea but I think comic is only temporarily thrown off but not enough to be troublesome….then again there was the time he used a high pitched sonic device himself to take down Klaw
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/107456/3063489-1725120471-12596.jpg

  8. Alphastriker May 21, 2015 at 12:50 am -      #8

    I don’t possess enough knowledge to feel comfortable in debating for either contender, but I would say Batman for this one at least.

    Also, when will they post another Starcraft matchup?

  9. Nsl98 May 21, 2015 at 12:57 am -      #9

    MCU DD dodging a bullet, 1:03
    m.youtube.com/watch?v=B66feInucFY

    0:44, dodging another bullet
    m.youtube.com/watch?v=t5HvK6Z_cC4

  10. Limbo Lowk May 21, 2015 at 1:07 am -      #10

    So I heard that Gotham Knight was set between the nolanverse movies. Which is about Lucasarts level of EU buffing considering just about everything in this short vs deadshot
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZJdQ_rmy_U

    Either way, Nolan Batman uses swear to me and confuses Daredevil into fits of laughter.
    ===
    Round 2,
    @Nsl98, you might want to specify Bruce because Commissioner Gordon exoskeleton is in the survived a multi-ton truck landing on it then flipped it, can fly, and carriers an over-sized hand cannon. And that is just from the previews, it it really is a Wayne tech built suit I’m expecting some specials to go with it.

  11. Nsl98 May 21, 2015 at 1:11 am -      #11

    @Lowk
    Yeah, I keep forgetting that Gordon is the current Batman.

    I suggested a bunch of regular Batman threads before he “died”. The Bats in scenario 2 is Bruce, circa N52 pre-death in Endgame.

    And Deadshot looks like he got lost on the way to a Hellsing Convention.

  12. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 1:12 am -      #12

    Seems like Nolanbat might have somewhat better armor and supposed to be skilled (though Rises didn’t do much to help support this) while Daredevil seems to have the better agility, speed/reflexes.
    I don’t remember Nolanbat keeping too many gadgets on hand standard, just batarangs, smoke pellets and his grapple gun off the top of my head.

  13. Alpha or Omega May 21, 2015 at 1:33 am -      #13

    @Lowk
    “So I heard that Gotham Knight was set between the nolanverse movies. Which is about Lucasarts level of EU buffing considering just about everything in this short vs deadshot”
    /
    From what I heard, it was originally going to be that, but they changed it so that they would be short stories that could possibly be found in the Batman mythos or something along that line.
    /
    I think there were comics for the Nolan-verse Batman though IIRC.
    /
    “Either way, Nolan Batman uses swear to me and confuses Daredevil into fits of laughter.”
    /
    It’s better than what Frank Miller Batman would say.

  14. Darth Bombad May 21, 2015 at 1:43 am -      #14

    Nolanbat has some really crappy combat, unless he uses his gear (which isn’t
    nearly as hax as comic bats) i don’t see him overcoming DD’s senses.

    @Alpha or Omega
    Can Nolan-verse Batman change his temperature and control his heart beat?
    No, no he can not, he’s nowhere near comic bats in ninjahood.

    @pimpmage
    Umm, daredevil relies on super hearing right? Would something like a flash grenade disorient him?
    I don’t know, but the explosions and gunfire right next to his head had no effect.

  15. Limbo Lowk May 21, 2015 at 1:56 am -      #15

    “and his grapple gun off the top of my head.”

    A grapple can be a pretty decent long range tool

    Also, holy flashsteps batman @11:14
    I wish they kept Kevin Conroy for the current animations.
    ===
    EDIT
    “From what I heard, it was originally going to be that, but they changed it so that they would be short stories that could possibly be found in the Batman mythos or something along that line.”

    Ah well then nevermind.
    However I would like to petition all nolanverse matches to substitute gotham knight in.

  16. KalaDellexe May 21, 2015 at 2:30 am -      #16

    All MCU stuff.
    Daredevil definitely has better agility, his suit is made of material that’s flexible until impacted, so his movement is completely free unlike Bats in his stiff armor.

    DD’s heat sense can discern one degree’s difference (when he’s saving the Russian’s life he mentions that the bullet is still a degree hotter than the surrounding tissue. He can sense movement three floors below him (talking to Claire about the Russian coming through the building). The only time he was ever fooled into believing he was by himself after he started being more careful was when a man concealed himself by lowering his body temperature and lowering his heart rate severely. Bats ain’t sneaking up on him.

    DD regularly has guns shot near him, too, so I doubt one of Bats’ explosive pellets will impact him severely.

    Bats does have the advantage in his armor, though. It is more durable than DD’s, if I recall the Dark Knight movies right. The blades on Bats’ arms are Bats’ biggest advantage, as DD’s suit isn’t entirely cut-resistant.
    vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/marvelcinematicuniverse/images/f/fe/Daredevil_Armor_Suit.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20150411221944
    The black will block a hit pretty well, the red “might block a blade, depending on the angle” and Bats’ blades are pretty sharp.
    DD can take a pretty good punishment though, he keeps fighting with pretty bad injuries a lot of the time.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4TJWBT77uA
    This fight is a good example of his ability to keep fighting with severe injuries.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OAxi4CZPOk&feature=iv&src_vid=G4TJWBT77uA&annotation_id=annotation_995148715
    @20 seconds in. DD’s suit is made of the same material as Fisk’s, which tanks that slash pretty well.

  17. Nsl98 May 21, 2015 at 9:43 am -      #17

    @Lowk
    However I would like to petition all nolanverse matches to substitute gotham knight in.

    Seconded.

    @Jake
    (though Rises didn’t do much to help support this)

    Wasn’t Bruce all old and injured in Rises, so he wasn’t as good as before? Unless you’re just refferring to how idiotic the henchmen were in the movie.

    Seriously, what kind of hardened criminal randomly falls over or charges and attempts to melee you with a loaded gun?

  18. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 10:43 am -      #18

    @Nsl98
    it was 8 years later, but Bruce wasn’t THAT old I don’t think, or if that was the intention they did a horrible job of it. He still seemed to be in the peak life region just having completely wrecked his body by doing crazy bullshit.
    That said it wasn’t just the henchmen the fights throughout the movie seemed kind of…..lackluster.

    Edit: completely off topic but in my opinion awesome enough to say here….plus I have no idea where else to post it..
    Behold Groot Thor 4.bp.blogspot.com/-YZjKz9CO7Nc/VV2Jxzx9U4I/AAAAAAALwd4/YzZMastHdko/s1600/p70_18.jpg

  19. Nsl98 May 21, 2015 at 11:19 am -      #19

    @Jake
    Oh, ok. Yeah, Rises had boring fight scenes. I feel like Begins and DK had better ones, Rises was more of a closing drama type story.

    On the bright side, remember his final fight with Bane?
    m.youtube.com/watch?v=DImh0ac-jdQ

    ^2:28, Bane puts a decent sized hole in a marble pillar. Batman tanks multiple punches from him, adding to his durability edge.

    DD still has impressive durability, though, based on his Kingpin fight.

    And GrooThor is majestic.

  20. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 11:32 am -      #20

    “hole in a marble pillar”

    Actually that feat isn’t what it appears to be, he’s just breaking a plaster shell layer on the pillar not marble.

  21. Nsl98 May 21, 2015 at 11:36 am -      #21

    Huh. Seems I fell into the same trap as other people on the internet.

    Thanks, man.

  22. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 11:45 am -      #22

    no problem, img853.imageshack.us/img853/9257/ddeg.png
    if you look close what breaks is a thin layer, it was either a decorative pillar or if it was one of the load bearing ones its a shell around a concrete and steel core. Pretty common in modern buildings.
    Not to say it isn’t decently impressive…but its well withing real world capabilities of people that size and strength (arguably NolanBat, MCU Daredevil or MCU Kingpin might be able to replicate it on a similar structure)

    I think NolanBane and MCU Fisk might be in roughly the same ballpark physically they seem to be around the same build, and both were able to pretty casually lift their opponents up despite said opponents being full grown men.

    Also yes GrooThor is just awesome.

  23. Nsl98 May 21, 2015 at 11:57 am -      #23

    ame build, and both were able to pretty casually lift their opponents up despite said opponents being full grown men.

    Yeah, when I first saw the episode where DD fights Kingpin, and KP lifted him up, I was half expecting him to break DD’s back, if only because it looked just like te scene in DKR.

    Also yes GrooThor is just awesome.

    Quick question, why is GrooThor there?

  24. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 12:05 pm -      #24

    It’s Battleworld ruled by god emperor Dr. Doom (no seriously the first book outright calls him god emperor of battleworld) and the Thor corps are his law enforcement, including stopping heresy that he didn’t create the world…which is why they are now going after the Ultimate Avengers (Ultimate Stark Fury and Hawkeye) who just finished a meeting with 616 Avengers and 616 X-Men..with Doc Green talking about figuring out what the hells going on and how to undo it.

    Also looking at the Daredevil Kingpin fight…at one point did Kingpin actually punch Daredevil hard enough to lift him off the ground?

  25. Nsl98 May 21, 2015 at 12:16 pm -      #25

    first book outright calls him god emperor of battleworld) and the Thor corps are his law enforcement, including stopping heresy that he didn’t create the world

    That sounds like WH40K….at least, from what I’ve read here. Interesting, at least.

    I like what Battleworld is doing so far, even if it looks like Marvel is on a crash course to a reboot or a massive retcon.

    REALLY looking forward to “Renew Your Vows”.

    Also looking at the Daredevil Kingpin fight…at one point did Kingpin actually punch Daredevil hard enough to lift him off the ground

    It was about 1:40. He was using a flurry of attacks to combo him into an up throw.

  26. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 12:27 pm -      #26

    From what I’ve heard it won’t be an out and out reboot/retcon, just a soft one to clean up things.

  27. Nsl98 May 21, 2015 at 12:31 pm -      #27

    Ah, so not quite N52 level.

    Wonder what they’re gonna change…

  28. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 12:43 pm -      #28

    Their culling universes, going to change around a few characters, seems most 616 characters will remain minimally affected.

  29. Nsl98 May 21, 2015 at 12:48 pm -      #29

    Oh, so it’s just fixing around the multiverse(s)?

    Now I get it. I was getting a bit confused with all the Secret Wars stuff.

  30. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 12:57 pm -      #30

    Seems like it, or just destroying it completely, they might be going down to just one verse, I’m not sure where this is going to end, but it seems that the history will be intact.

  31. Nsl98 May 21, 2015 at 1:01 pm -      #31

    Yeah, it’s a good way to tie up the loose ends.

    And make more knots.

    One big universe would be great, instead of all that alternate universe, Earth 321-x46 stuff.

  32. Rookie May 21, 2015 at 1:11 pm -      #32

    I think that Daredevil can win.

  33. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 2:37 pm -      #33

    so on the note of the comic aspect of this fight Daredevil once got hit with a drug that overloaded his senses including hearing, but was able to counter it by focusing on his radar sense
    3.bp.blogspot.com/-i8jp-EBD20U/VV1sy7pEt7I/AAAAAAALuH0/5AreKQqz3Xw/s1600/p15_26.jpg
    3.bp.blogspot.com/-PLA95oBWkBc/VV1sz6p2frI/AAAAAAALuII/J99mz-I9uPQ/s1600/p15_27.jpg
    Not sure if he can translate that to helping with a Flashbang but its there.

  34. Limbo Lowk May 21, 2015 at 4:08 pm -      #34

    “Not sure if he can translate that to helping with a Flashbang but its there.”

    Eh
    www.theothermurdockpapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Blam_DD3-630×241.jpg
    Flashbang probably who last but it should still hurt him.
    ===
    Sustain sonic attacks still work on him
    i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s–dbTHHIrL–/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/wfswsoesgc1t0rybmp6n.png
    ===
    Bats does have sonic weapons through. Monstly in the form of grenades
    The first was a bit clunk but now he has multiple small ball versions
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3589985-3677449631-detec.jpg

    He also has acid baterangs, shockstick, and gas that was enough to weaken a venom+manbat enhanced metahuman
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3022402-2013-05-01+07-30-37+-+detective+comics+20-014.jpg

    Also explosives
    p.dreamwidth.org/4a0228591675/abload.de/img/batwoman24-2visuf.jpg
    ===
    “Their culling universes, going to change around a few characters, seems most 616 characters will remain minimally affected.”

    Tell that to the gunslinging raccoon who got a laser through the chest.

  35. sadot06 May 21, 2015 at 5:01 pm -      #35

    I think the last Batman vs Daredevil fight on this site favored Batman due to equipment. But Netflix DD stomps Nolan Bats. Much better fighter, physically superior by a wide margin.

  36. Ragnorke May 21, 2015 at 5:49 pm -      #36

    Even with DareDevils pimpin new suit, didn’t he struggle in a one on one against Kingpin…? Who was just… a regular fat dude…?
    Don’t think there’d be any comparison between Kingpin and someone like Bane.

    Nolans Batman has so many gadgets, which put him on the lead imo.
    Sure he lacks mobility and athleticism, but he makes up for it in sheer strength & gadgets.
    He cracked a block of cement with a kick during Dark Knight Rises.

    Daredevil did have some really sick feats in the show though,
    And his senses might completely counter any of Batmans stealth.

    As for comics, Batman is definitely stronger. Whereas the difference in speed is minimal.
    Once again, i think Batmans gadgets just put him over the top.

  37. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 6:12 pm -      #37

    “Nolans Batman has so many gadgets”

    when he brings them, normally just bat shaped throwing stars a grappling gun and smoke pellets though.

    “He cracked a block of cement with a kick during Dark Knight Rises.”

    while wearing a special knee brace that makes no further appearances during the movie and I really doubt Bane allowed him to keep when he stripped the rest of the bat suit off..
    Sure maybe he could have gotten another but he was too busy wasting gasoline making burning bat symbols

  38. Epicazeroth May 21, 2015 at 6:18 pm -      #38

    DD aim-dodging bullets by sound. At 1:20
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7o_QH7NCtI

    He also takes a hit that knocks him back a good twenty feet, and gets right back up.
    ===
    @Jake: “I think NolanBane and MCU Fisk might be in roughly the same ballpark physically”
    Fisk seems more brutal though. And what is Nolan!Bane’s durability?

  39. Epicazeroth May 21, 2015 at 6:26 pm -      #39

    @Rag: “Who was just… a regular fat dude…?”
    Uh… no he wasn’t. He regularly lifts people three feet in the air and at one point flips a metal table. DD hit him a lot with those metal sticks, and Fisk barely even bled. And he got tased for like 15 seconds and didn’t give a shit.
    ===
    Also, did anyone notice that table Fisk broke (via Matt) was like three inches thick? Isn’t three-inch thick wood pretty hard to break?

  40. sadot06 May 21, 2015 at 6:36 pm -      #40

    “Even with DareDevils pimpin new suit, didn’t he struggle in a one on one against Kingpin…? Who was just… a regular fat dude…?
    Don’t think there’d be any comparison between Kingpin and someone like Bane.”

    Kingpin isn’t a regular fat dude. He’s abnormally strong. DD was beating the crap out of him, but Fisk’s strength allowed him to briefly turn the tables before once again getting his shit pushed in. But based on who DD has bested earlier in the series you could call some of that final battle PIS.

  41. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 6:56 pm -      #41

    “Isn’t three-inch thick wood pretty hard to break?”

    depends, is it solid wood, what kind of wood (hardwood vs pine, what kind of hardwood if hardwood) or is it pressed sawdust/pressboard.

    “Fisk seems more brutal though. And what is Nolan!Bane’s durability?”

    above average person for sure, not really superhuman but definitely the high end of human durability, and thats not factoring in that the chemicals his mask injects into him dulls/completely numbs pain. Fisk would have to damage the mask like Batman did to be able to cause serious pain, though injury is probably a different story entirely.
    He didn’t really get many durability feats, he only ever fought Batman beating an 8 years out of practice Batman then losing to a few months back in practice Batman.

  42. Ragnorke May 21, 2015 at 9:14 pm -      #42

    @Jake
    “when he brings them, normally just bat shaped throwing stars a grappling gun and smoke pellets though.”

    Having any sharp object is better than what DD has… Which is batons.

    “while wearing a special knee brace that makes no further appearances during the movie ”

    How does the knee brace take away from the fact that his foot was still perfectly fine…?

    @Epic
    “Uh… no he wasn’t. He regularly lifts people three feet in the air and at one point flips a metal table.”

    I can lift people in the air, and i’m a 5’8 nineteen year old.
    Any average person of that weight & size could do it. He isn’t superhuman in any way.

    Bane on the other hand, was breaking stone columns wasn’t he?

    “DD hit him a lot with those metal sticks, and Fisk barely even bled. ”

    That says more for the lack of DDs strength rather than the durability of Fisk.
    Or it was probably Fisks “armored” suit.

    The thing is, Batmans suit would be just as well armored. Except Batman is:
    WAYYYY more skilled than Fisk.
    and Batman has actual weapons.

    @Sadot
    ” But based on who DD has bested earlier in the series you could call some of that final battle PIS.”

    Agreed.

  43. Darth Bombad May 21, 2015 at 9:38 pm -      #43

    How much force would it take to cut a man’s head off with a car door?,
    because that would probably be one of Fisk’s better feats.
    As for the knee brace… yeah that was stupid but i guess a feats a feat.

  44. Epicazeroth May 21, 2015 at 9:42 pm -      #44

    @Rag: “Having any sharp object is better than what DD has… Which is batons.”
    He can deflect knives and a kyoketsu-shoge, and can dodge bullets. He doesn’t need sharp objects. Plus he doesn’t like killing.

    “Any average person of that weight & size could do it. He isn’t superhuman in any way.”
    Of course he’s not superhuman. But he’s not “a regular fat dude”.

    “Bane on the other hand, was breaking stone columns wasn’t he?”
    No. He broke part of a plaster casing. You don’t even have to be particularly strong to do that.

    “That says more for the lack of DDs strength rather than the durability of Fisk.”
    Considering Matt also beat the shit out of tons of other guys – and that Fisk displayed above-average durability on at least one other occasion – it really doesn’t. And DD was hitting Fisk’s head.

    “Except Batman is:
    WAYYYY more skilled than Fisk.”
    I would like to argue against that, but I won’t. I will say that half of Batman’s punches looked like haymakers.
    ===
    @sadot: “But based on who DD has bested earlier in the series you could call some of that final battle PIS.”
    How so? Matt basically handed Fisk his ass on a silver platter. Probably with that omelet he has every morning.

  45. KalaDellexe May 21, 2015 at 10:09 pm -      #45

    Batarangs are going to be pretty useless against DD, in his fight against Nobu he dodges/blocks several thrown blades at close range.

    And though DD’s weapons are batons, you have to remember that any kind of weapon adds significant force to a hit. Bat’s helmet breaks apart after just a few hits from Bane just punching. DD’s metal batons would deliver higher force across a smaller surface area. Bats’ helmet is shattering after just a couple hits, which, considering how fast Bats moves compared to how fast DD is shown to move, is going to happen pretty quick.

  46. Alpha or Omega May 21, 2015 at 10:13 pm -      #46

    “How much force would it take to cut a man’s head off with a car door?,
    because that would probably be one of Fisk’s better feats.”
    /
    He didn’t cut it off. He smash it to a pulp. In one hit, that would be impressive, but he did it several times.

  47. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 10:17 pm -      #47

    @Alpha
    how easily was he swinging the car door?

  48. Ragnorke May 21, 2015 at 10:24 pm -      #48

    @Epic
    “He can deflect knives and a kyoketsu-shoge, and can dodge bullets. He doesn’t need sharp objects”

    Most of the people he fights are afraid of him, and usually don’t show any impressive fighting experience.

    He struggled against an unnamed thug in a one-on-one fight during the second episode i think,
    Which lasted almost 5 mins until DD got the upperhand.

    The one skilled man with knives that fought DD absolutely kicked his ass, and DD got a lucky break with the fire at the end.

    Sure, he has AIM-DODGED bullets, which he uses his vastly enhanced senses for,
    But that doesn’t stop him from getting his shit kicked by pretty standard people at times.

    “No. He broke part of a plaster casing. You don’t even have to be particularly strong to do that.”

    Will rewatch the scene.

    “Considering Matt also beat the shit out of tons of other guys”

    Meh.
    Matt has struggled against people in totally normal clothing before.
    His “advantage” is usually the sneakiness & fear factor.

    ” and that Fisk displayed above-average durability on at least one other occasion”

    Which is…?
    Flipping a table? that isn’t above average.

    ” And DD was hitting Fisk’s head.”

    All the more reason it proves DDs hits were weak as shit.
    Unless you think Fisks head can actually take full on blows from METAL BATONS without so much as a cut.

    1. Fisk is actually ridiculously superhuman.
    2. DD just wasn’t hitting hard.

    Lets see which seems more appropriate to the setting & context?
    Occams Razor clearly supports one over the other.

    “I WILL say that half of Batman’s punches looked like haymakers.”

    And DDs Baton swings looked like they had no force behind them whatsoever.

    “How so? Matt basically handed Fisk his ass on a silver platter.”

    Maybe we didn’t watch the same episode, but Matt clearly struggled.
    Winning a fight doesn’t mean you didn’t struggle to win.
    Matt was knocked down several times.

  49. Alpha or Omega May 21, 2015 at 10:25 pm -      #49

    “how easily was he swinging the car door?”
    /
    Pretty easily. The car door was still on the car though.
    He lined the Russian dude’s head, and slammed the car’s door on him until there was no head and only a bloody mess.
    You don’t interrupt Wilson’s date.
    /
    Are closed caption allowed as accurate interpretations?
    Because in some of the fights, Matt Murdock was apparently breaking bones when closed caption was on.

  50. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 10:35 pm -      #50

    “How does the knee brace take away from the fact that his foot was still perfectly fine…?”

    It doesn’t, but all that means is that he’s as durable as….pretty much anyone whose ever done a martial art and performed a test that involved breaking a concrete block or two. I’ve seen my old martial arts teachers do it a dozen times without injuring themselves. Why does him doing it mean anything. If anything the fact he needed tech to get his legs capable of doing that again hurts him now that he no longer has it more than it helps him because the scene implies thats one of the things him screwing up his legs meant he couldn’t do anymore meaning his kicks aren’t going to be as effective as they were before he ruined his legs and then spent 8 years sitting in his house.

  51. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 10:41 pm -      #51

    “Most of the people he fights are afraid of him, and usually don’t show any impressive fighting experience.”

    Right…because its not like Batman’s entire costume design and gimmick is…making criminals shit themselves before he even starts attacking them…nope no thugs in any of the movies were scared of Batman…no superstitious and cowardly lot in Gotham no sir.

    Edit: @Alpha
    ah, I thought it was an off the hinges thing

  52. Epicazeroth May 21, 2015 at 10:53 pm -      #52

    @Rag: “But that doesn’t stop him from getting his shit kicked by pretty standard people at times.”
    Always by groups. Unless I’m forgetting a fight where he struggles against one or two mooks. And he’s pretty clearly a lot better by the end than the beginning.

    “Which is…?”
    Being tased in the neck for 15 seconds.

    “Flipping a table? that isn’t above average.”
    Depends if it was solid metal or hollow. But whatever.

    “All the more reason it proves DDs hits were weak as shit.”
    Except they’re effective against everyone else.

    “Matt was knocked down several times.”
    Getting knocked down doesn’t mean you struggled. Fisk is undeniably stronger than Matt by a not-insignificant margin, though how much stronger is definitely up for debate. Getting knocked down just means he got hit.
    ===
    @Alpha: “Are closed caption allowed as accurate interpretations?”
    It’s not closed captioning. It’s descriptive audio. Meaning, presumably, it’s describing exactly what’s happening. It’s meant for blind people, so they can experience a show about a blind hero, so I should hope it’s accurate.

  53. Ragnorke May 21, 2015 at 10:55 pm -      #53

    “Right…because its not like Batman’s entire costume design and gimmick is…making criminals shit themselves before he even starts attacking them…nope no thugs in any of the movies were scared of Batman…no superstitious and cowardly lot in Gotham no sir.”

    I’m not the ones constantly bringing up Batman fight scenes (aside from the Bane one) to prove how tough he is.

    As i said, the few times Matt went up against a dude that wasn’t afraid of him, or someone Matt couldn’t get the stealthy drop on, it usually ended up as a pretty even fight.

    The one time Matt fought a fat dude with an armored suit, he got knocked on his ass a couple of times.

    The one time Matt fought an experienced martial artist with weapons, he almost died.

    There’s a few other scenes of him struggling to win a 1vs1 against ORDINARY thugs.

  54. Ragnorke May 21, 2015 at 11:02 pm -      #54

    @Epic
    “Always by groups. Unless I’m forgetting a fight where he struggles against one or two mooks.”

    He has struggled with one-on-ones before.

    ” And he’s pretty clearly a lot better by the end than the beginning.”

    Aside from the new suit, which still hasn’t shown any feats, his martial arts seem the exact same.

    “Being tased in the neck for 15 seconds.”

    Can you post it?
    Coulda just been a low charge.

    “Except they’re effective against everyone else.”

    And everyone else is generally scared shitless of him, and he gets the element of surprise.

    I’m not saying Matts strength is weak, i’m just saying Fisk has no real above average feats either.
    Aside from his fight with Matt, which was more of just a low showing for Matt more than anything else.

    “Getting knocked down doesn’t mean you struggled.”



    How is that NOT a struggle?
    Matt was ahead for the most part in the lead, and Matt ended up winning, but both characters WERE struggling to win, and the fight could have realistically gone either way.

    Specially 1:55-2:50
    Yet you’re saying Matt simply shit on Fisk without any struggle at all…?

    And 1:10-1:20

  55. Jake_Uzumaki May 21, 2015 at 11:55 pm -      #55

    “and the fight could have realistically gone either way.”

    Just like the final Bane Batman fight could have gone either way if Batman hadn’t gotten that lucky blow that broke Bane’s mask.
    Both of these guys(bane and fisk) seem to be examples of stout strength in these universes

  56. wingedlion May 22, 2015 at 12:41 am -      #56

    “There’s a few other scenes of him struggling to win a 1vs1 against ORDINARY thugs.”

    We see a weakened Matt take down a group of Russians in a closed hallway near the ending of episode 2. He also takes down a group of thugs around the beginning of episode 1 with little trouble.
    Where are you getting that he struggles against thugs 1v1? Cause i don’t remember that at all.

  57. Commander Cross May 22, 2015 at 12:53 am -      #57

    Out-of-fight notice:

    Everyone else is needed back at regards to
    This matter here, we’re now taking heavy fire.

    Back to fight at hand:
    Any ideas when the next season of Daredevil will be up and running on Netflix?

  58. Ragnorke May 22, 2015 at 1:04 am -      #58

    @Jake
    “Just like the final Bane Batman fight could have gone either way if Batman hadn’t gotten that lucky blow that broke Bane’s mask.”

    But i never said Bruce beat Bane without a struggle.
    Epicazeroth said Matt beat Kingpin without a struggle.

    “Both of these guys(bane and fisk) seem to be examples of stout strength in these universes”

    Ummm no.
    Fisk hasn’t really shown any feats of above average strength, nor has he shown any feats of combat prowess or martial experience.

    Flipping tables & lifting other humans are both things any average person of his size can do if emotionally pushed to it.
    Bane on the other hand, demonstrated actual fighting techniques.

    Oh, and btw, here’s the knee brace scene:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=roGECc9IGqg

    The knee brace was only used to relocate his previously damaged knee and was holding it in place.

    The kick was ALL Bruce Wayne.
    He accelerated his own leg, he created his own force, the knee brace did nothing more than act as a cast.
    When has Daredevil gone up against Strength like that?

    Also, the Batman suit should be comparable to the Fisk/DD suit at a minimum.
    And considering Matt struggled against an average fat dude with that suit, he will definitely struggle against a trained ninja with sharp weapons with that suit.

    @Wingedlion
    “Where are you getting that he struggles against thugs 1v1? Cause i don’t remember that at all.”

    When he follows his new co-worker chick friend in the middle of the night, when she sneaks out with the flashdrive.
    The fight between Matt & Random Thug lasts a LONG time.

  59. wingedlion May 22, 2015 at 1:10 am -      #59

    @Ragnorke
    “The fight between Matt & Random Thug lasts a LONG time.”

    That was an assassin sent to kill her, not some random thug. Hell, that guy fought nothing liked a random thug; he was fairly trained.

    “average fat dude with that suit,”

    Just to note here, the Kingpin also has body armor. In fact he (along with Claire’s suggestion) is the main reason Matt decided to get armor in the first place.

  60. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 1:42 am -      #60

    “Fisk hasn’t really shown any feats of above average strength,”

    Neither does Bane who does nothing a man that size couldn’t do. Don’t forget this is the grounded Batman with crappy fight scenes and throat cancer voice.

    “Bane on the other hand, demonstrated actual fighting techniques.”

    yes he showed a great mastery of throwing heavy punches and…one kick during the last fight with Batman the climactic battle between two so called experts trained by the league of shadows and….they just punched each other a lot. That’s it.

    oi57.tinypic.com/2gtrvae.jpg
    and seriously looking at them next to each other if anything Bane seems thicker and rounder around the middle than Kingpin does

    ” the knee brace did nothing more than act as a cast.”

    So Bruce just wanted to enjoy the sound of gears whirring whenever he kicked people? If he just wanted a cast he could have saved himself some time and money by buying one of those at home sports braces you can get at CVS Wal-Mart HEB and various other places with a pharmacy in them because that thing doesn’t seem to do any more than those…it just has gears that whir for some reason.

    “When has Daredevil gone up against Strength like that?”

    Every fight because there’s probably about ten million videos of martial artists breaking concrete blocks online and its not really all that extreme of a feat cute little whirring cast aside.

  61. KalaDellexe May 22, 2015 at 1:45 am -      #61

    “The fight between Matt & Random Thug lasts a LONG time.”

    So a guy sent to recover information that could bring down Fisk who displays acrobatic capabilities and a much more competent fighting style than most foes on the show is a “random thug.”
    Sure.

    “When has Daredevil gone up against Strength like that?”
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjakBg7mLJw
    Oh yes. A guy with some martial arts training breaking a couple bricks. Real impressive.

    “Bane on the other hand, demonstrated actual fighting techniques.”

    Yeah, a fighting style that revolves around dirty tricks and rapid strikes. A fighting style which has been shown to beat Bats’ technique of close range elbow strikes and grapples pretty well. DD is shown to be faster than Bane, and he actually uses weapons besides his fists.

  62. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 22, 2015 at 2:59 am -      #62

    “Even with DareDevils pimpin new suit, didn’t he struggle in a one on one against Kingpin…? Who was just… a regular fat dude…?
    Don’t think there’d be any comparison between Kingpin and someone like Bane.”

    At what point is Kingpin ever portrayed as “a regular fat dude?” That one fight you posted of him vs DD has Kingpin literally throws DD with one arm at around 0:51 into a dumpster. Regular fat people can’t toss grown men. He then tosses him again a bit after that at about 0:56. Also, I think you’re heavily under playing Kingpin picking him up over his head and holding him there for about 5 seconds. Most fat people might be able to push people around easily, but they don’t have the strength to casually pick someone up and hold him there, let alone doing it without struggling.
    =
    “I can lift people in the air, and i’m a 5’8 nineteen year old.”

    You also happen to be a guy who lifts a lot, most people who don’t aren’t strong enough to do that. Fat or not.
    =
    “That says more for the lack of DDs strength rather than the durability of Fisk.”

    How so? The fact that we see DD with multiple broken bones casually tossing people around should testify that he’s not weak. If AoO shows us the CC then we’ll also see that he can break bones, quite casually apparently.
    =
    “Except Batman is:
    WAYYYY more skilled than Fisk.”

    But he lacks the bulk that made Fisk such a threat. I also haven’t seen Bats deal with an acrobatic opponent like DD before.
    =
    “Most of the people he fights are afraid of him.”

    Most of the people he fights have no clue who he is. DD isn’t an established hero, he’s just some the new kid on the block that people are just hearing about. No one’s afraid of him.
    =
    “He struggled against an unnamed thug in a one-on-one fight during the second episode i think,”

    You mean the guy who was a trained assassin sent there to retrieve a flashdrive and kill anyone who got in the way?
    =
    “But that doesn’t stop him from getting his shit kicked by pretty standard people at times.”

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=B66feInucFY

    He has multiple broken bones in that one, mostly ribs I believe.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7o_QH7NCtI

    His first appearance as DD. Seems to be doing fine against standard thugs.

    The only 1v1s I can think of where he struggled were all against trained people. Stick, John Healy, Nobu, an unnamed assassin, and Wilson Fisk.
    =
    “Are closed caption allowed as accurate interpretations?”

    Don’t see why they wouldn’t. Wouldn’t that be the creators basically telling us what’s happening in those scenes?
    =
    “And everyone else is generally scared shitless of him”

    No one, at any point, was scared of him. Maybe by season 2 there might be some people who are, but as of season 1, no one was.
    =
    “It’s Battleworld ruled by god emperor Dr. Doom”

    Is no one else at all curious as to how Doom was able to convince everyone that he is God, how he was able to save pieces of the multiverse and throw them together into Battleworld, how him and Strange survived their encounter with the Beyonders(and what they’re doing now that the multiverse is gone)when Hyperion and Odinson couldn’t, how he was able to erase everyone’s memories, etc? So many questions I want answered…

  63. TheSorrow May 22, 2015 at 4:02 am -      #63

    Wilson Fisk is by no means regular. Do you not recall him repeatedly slamming the head of one of the Russian brothers with a car door until it was completely removed? That’s not normal strength at all.

  64. Limbo Lowk May 22, 2015 at 4:58 am -      #64

    “So Bruce just wanted to enjoy the sound of gears whirring whenever he kicked people? If he just wanted a cast he could have saved himself some time and money by buying one of those at home sports braces you can get at CVS Wal-Mart HEB and various other places with a pharmacy in them because that thing doesn’t seem to do any more than those…it just has gears that whir for some reason.”

    You’d be surprised at the lengths wealthy people would go to maintain health. Are you honestly telling me you wouldn’t want a convoluted leg brace if you could afford it?

  65. Darth Bombad May 22, 2015 at 7:27 am -      #65

    @Lowk
    “You’d be surprised at the lengths wealthy people would go to maintain health. Are you honestly telling me you wouldn’t want a convoluted leg brace if you could afford it?”

    I believe he was taking a jab at Rag for claiming it was just a normal knee brace.
    Where he thinks (and i tend to agree) that its a powered strength enhancing do-dad.

  66. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 11:16 am -      #66

    @Lowk
    What Darth said, also, Tony Stark 😛

  67. TrialofFire May 22, 2015 at 1:01 pm -      #67

    Is everyone forgetting that device that Batman used to call in practically every single bat in Gotham in Batman Begins? Wouldn’t all the high-pitched shrieking disorient Daredevil? That’s gotta give Batman some points on Daredevil other than his armour.

  68. Limbo Lowk May 22, 2015 at 4:01 pm -      #68

    “I believe he was taking a jab at Rag for claiming it was just a normal knee brace.”

    I know. And I was just saying it could also just be that it was fancy knee brace that affords him the mobility as he would have without one.
    ===
    “Is everyone forgetting that device that Batman used to call in practically every single bat in Gotham in Batman Begins? Wouldn’t all the high-pitched shrieking disorient Daredevil? That’s gotta give Batman some points on Daredevil other than his armour.”

    I don’t think MCU Daredevils blindness was ever made public knowledge so Batman wouldn’t know about it.

  69. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 4:18 pm -      #69

    Did Batman ever use it for….anything else whatsoever? I don’t recall it getting used for anything else.

  70. Epicazeroth May 22, 2015 at 4:34 pm -      #70

    @Rag: “it usually ended up as a pretty even fight.”
    Except for that hallway fight, where he beat a dozen guys. And at the docks, where his stealth was only useful against the first opponent. And against the corrupt cops after the factory explosion.

    “he got knocked on his ass a couple of times.”
    Because Fisk was a lot stronger than him. One hit was enough to stun him long enough for Fisk to keep beating on him.

    “There’s a few other scenes of him struggling to win a 1vs1 against ORDINARY thugs.”
    Which ones? Episode numbers or videos would be fine.

    “Can you post it?”
    I can’t seem to find it. It’s episode 13, right before he kills Owlsley.

    “Coulda just been a low charge.”
    1) It floored Daredevil the first time.
    2) Owlsley is not so stupid as to set his stun gun to “low” when confronted by Fisk.

    “And everyone else is generally scared shitless of him, and he gets the element of surprise.”
    Which is irrelevant to how much force the batons exert.

    “Yet you’re saying Matt simply shit on Fisk without any struggle at all…?”
    Not “no struggle”. But he got right back up. You don’t get right back up from hits that really affect you.

    “The fight between Matt & Random Thug lasts a LONG time.”
    Is that the same guy who killed the bowling alley owner? Because the bowling alley guy was a professional killer obviously trained in H2H; not a guy who just knows how to shoot people.

  71. Epicazeroth May 22, 2015 at 5:13 pm -      #71

    @Jake: “oi57.tinypic.com/2gtrvae.jpg”
    Just saying: Fisk is stretched vertically in that picture.
    ===
    @Rag: “I can lift people in the air, and i’m a 5’8 nineteen year old.”
    Don’t you also consistently say you’re a bodybuilder? And can you lift someone in the air and hold them over your head for several seconds? Or toss a man casually with one arm?
    ===
    @CH1C: “So many questions I want answered…”
    The answers are “Plot” and “Fuck you I’m Dr. Doom”.

  72. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 5:37 pm -      #72

    @Epic
    it was the only image I could find of him just standing that you could actually make anything out with.

  73. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 22, 2015 at 6:30 pm -      #73

    “Just saying: Fisk is stretched vertically in that picture.”

    Just because your “fat” doesn’t mean you’re not strong. Look at this guy: www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs40BtGpuCA Neither of them at any point in their respective series are ever portrayed as “just fat guys,” and shouldn’t be treated as such. Also, Bane’s bod, mhm.
    =
    “Don’t you also consistently say you’re a bodybuilder?”

    He does, I recall him saying his max bench is 265 a while ago, which is FAR from average or weak.
    =
    “The answers are ‘Plot’ and ‘Fuck you I’m Dr. Doom’.”
    =
    Can’t argue with that.

  74. Limbo Lowk May 22, 2015 at 7:35 pm -      #74

    “The answers are ‘Plot’ and ‘Fuck you I’m Dr. Doom’.”

    Funny thing is, this is the third time doom has been in a position like this. First he started his own world with him as king using an infinity gauntlet. Then setting himself as the god of the black swan.
    I bet he stole a beyonders powers or something this time.

  75. TrialofFire May 22, 2015 at 10:04 pm -      #75

    “I don’t think MCU Daredevils blindness was ever made public knowledge so Batman wouldn’t know about it”

    Bats would eventually realize that Daredevil doesn’t need to see anything to fight, after Batman uses his signature move of disabling all nearby light sources, even if he didn’t have any prep time, being a master of knowing his surroundings and all.

    “Did Batman ever use it for….anything else whatsoever? I don’t recall it getting used for anything else”

    No, but it’s always been kept in his boot, so it’s not like it’s a special item that he needs to tote around like his sticky grenade launcher.

    On another note, how do you suggest battles? I’m new to this site, and I can’t seem to find a submission button. Sorry if I’m this is obvious or if this comes up a lot.

  76. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 10:11 pm -      #76

    He can’t see Daredevils eyes and as you just pointed out Batman likes to fight without light sources….why would he automatically assume Daredevil is blind and not that he’s just trained to fight in darkness similarly to Batman himself?

    Do we know he kept it on his belt in subsequent movies? With certainty?

    As to suggesting battles here: factpile.com/2561-battle-requests-2/

  77. TrialofFire May 22, 2015 at 10:46 pm -      #77

    “Do we know he kept it on his belt in subsequent movies? With certainty?”

    No, we can’t be certain of it, but it was kept in his boot, not his belt, and there weren’t a lot of shots of his heel. Of course, that was in his old suit, but it wasn’t a tool that he carried specifically for one mission, but merely a feature of his old suit. Of course, if someone said he inky had access to the tools from the suit in TDK and DKR, then I stand corrected. Otherwise I see no reason why he shouldn’t be allowed it.

    “He can’t see Daredevils eyes and as you just pointed out Batman likes to fight without light sources….why would he automatically assume Daredevil is blind and not that he’s just trained to fight in darkness similarly to Batman himself?”

    I’m not saying he would assume it, but even if he didn’t figure it out, Batman is a master of stealth, so if he produces no noise, then can DD even detect him? Or his his hearing sensitive enough to hear a heartbeat?

    As to suggesting battles here: factpile.com/2561-battle-requests-2/

    Thanks!

  78. Nsl98 May 22, 2015 at 10:58 pm -      #78

    Or his his hearing sensitive enough to hear a heartbeat

    He’s heard guns clicking iirc. Comic DD definitely has that ability though.

    Welcome to FP, hope you enjoy your stay!

  79. Friendlysociopath May 22, 2015 at 11:15 pm -      #79

    @TrialofFire
    Just a note, it doesn’t hurt to search the characters to see if your match has already been done.

    Daredevil hears heartbeats doesn’t he? I swear that was mentioned somewhere up there.

  80. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 11:18 pm -      #80

    “Otherwise I see no reason why he shouldn’t be allowed it.”

    the set up says he only has standard equipment, a one off gadget that is never seen again is hard to call standard because there’s no way to know if he kept it or if he thought he’d never need it again, otherwise he’d be stuck carrying that EMP gun he had in Rises too because he used it once.

    I haven’t actually seen the show sadly just a few fight scenes, so can’t speak to the heart beat thing, he might be able to hear breathing though.

    No problem, welcome to BankGambling.

  81. Epicazeroth May 22, 2015 at 11:24 pm -      #81

    Daredevil does hear heartbeats. He can hear heartbeats and breathing from outside a building. It was before his fight with Nobu. He notes that the reason he couldn’t detect Nobu was because he slowed his heart and breathing. He also was able to sense how Nobu’s heartbeat and Black Sun’s heartbeat were different than normal.

    Are there blind fighters in the Dark Knight world? Because otherwise, Bats would assume DD was trained to fight in the dark. He knows that’s possible.

  82. Jake_Uzumaki May 22, 2015 at 11:28 pm -      #82

    @Epic
    I don’t remember any blind fighters in the Dark Knight Trilogy, just a scarecrow a clown a stocky guy with a mask and a woman with lots of cannon fodder.

  83. TrialofFire May 23, 2015 at 12:17 am -      #83

    Okay, I’ll relent on the fighting in the dark, but I don’t think carrying around the EMP gun from DKR would be that good of a comparison to a gadget embedded on the heel of someone’s boot. And since he only used that once, does that also eliminate poisoned batarangs, since as far as I can remember, he only uses those once (even though they wouldn’t do much against Daredevil, I just would like to know if they’re allowed). Same goes for the blade shooters on his arm (I can’t remember what they’re called) from TDK, since I only remember him using them once as well.

    On the other hand, that’s all I can muster for Nolanbats, since his movie versions were quite time, and Daredevil sounds pretty OP in comparison, dodging bullets and hearing heartbeats through walls and whatnot.

    And thanks for the warm welcome! I hope I can bring some good points to the debates to come.

    Also, what do you guys think of Ezio Auditore (Assassin’s Creed) vs Lan Mandragoran (Wheel of Time)?

  84. TrialofFire May 23, 2015 at 12:36 am -      #84

    Nevermind about Ezio vs Lan. I just read up on Lan to refresh my memory, and he is much more OP than I remember.

  85. Jake_Uzumaki May 23, 2015 at 12:39 am -      #85

    Wasn’t the sonic thing also in the old suit before he switched to the one that let him be more flexible/move his neck which was the one with the blade launchers?
    But that’s a problem with characters like Batman, Deathstroke, Punisher, Deadpool, Hawkeye, Green Arrow…in their comic incarnations especially. They change equipment all the time,

  86. TrialofFire May 23, 2015 at 1:09 am -      #86

    Yeah, it was his old suit, and I don’t think it was added to his new one. Well that solves my argument. Although I love Nolanbats, and I feel butthurt at this, I think he loses this one.

    Unless he can control his heartbeat/breathing to take Daredevil by surprise, which I don’t remember him ever being able to do.

  87. sadot06 May 23, 2015 at 6:31 am -      #87

    MCU Daredevil detected thugs in an apartment building 3 floors below him, can tell if you’re lying from across a room by listening to your heartbeat, and can even determine if a person is in love, the last time they showered, and what they’ve been eating. He also shielded himself from an explosion because he could hear the detonator being activated from inside a building while he was fighting a thug outside.

  88. Jake_Uzumaki May 23, 2015 at 7:30 am -      #88

    Holy crap….seriously?

  89. sadot06 May 23, 2015 at 7:35 am -      #89

    Yeah, MCU Daredevil’s sensory feats are insane. Nolan Bats’ stealth is basically useless.

  90. Jake_Uzumaki May 23, 2015 at 7:45 am -      #90

    Damn, I suddenly have a picture of Batman trying to pull his stealth hello thing on Daredevil only for Daredevil to suddenly say what he had for breakfast and then swing around and punch him in the face..

  91. TrialofFire May 23, 2015 at 9:20 am -      #91

    How did no one mention that Daredevil’s hearing is that powerful? That blows anything Bats has done out of the water. Batman can’t use his stealth, his diversion gadgets won’t work because Daredevil is already blind, so he wouldn’t see them, he’s dodged bullets and knives, so it’s safe to bet he’d be able to dodge batarangs. Plus all Batman has done for stealth is disappear from normal humans with no superpowers, unless you count Bane, but he couldn’t even get the drop on Bane.

    I think I sense a fight similar to the first Bane fight, except more graceful.

  92. Jake_Uzumaki May 23, 2015 at 9:23 am -      #92

    Eh…Bane wouldn’t really count, all he had was a seriously toned down pain tolerance due to whatever drugs his mask injected into him.

  93. TrialofFire May 23, 2015 at 9:46 am -      #93

    Not to mention he was “born in darkness” lol. I’m just saying he has the closest thing to superpowers the the Dark Knight Trillogy. And since Daredevil has superpowers that Batman doesn’t even know can possibly even exist…

  94. Nsl98 May 23, 2015 at 10:19 am -      #94

    Nolanbat is a legit bullet dodger, based on those vids Lowk posted.

    Plus, his suit should help him withstand DD’s blows, right?

  95. Jake_Uzumaki May 23, 2015 at 10:32 am -      #95

    @Nsl98
    which vids? the only ones I saw him post were from those animated films that ended up not being canon to nolanverse?

  96. Nsl98 May 23, 2015 at 11:03 am -      #96

    @Jake
    I allowed them, post 17.

  97. Jake_Uzumaki May 23, 2015 at 11:26 am -      #97

    You mean where you agreed to use that version Instead of Nolan Batman in which case all discussion of Nolan Batman was useless?

  98. sadot06 May 23, 2015 at 11:38 am -      #98

    “Nolanbat is a legit bullet dodger, based on those vids Lowk posted.”

    Nolanbat isn’t a bullet dodger. Gotham Knight isn’t the same as the Nolaverse. All you’re doing is allowing feats from a different verse. And based on the Deadshot video, he isn’t a legit bullet dodger. Dante from Devil May Cry is a legit bullet dodger. Batman was absorbing the bullets at a distance with his armor while flying evasively to force Deadshot to occasionally miss. Then he runs at him on top of the train and gets shot in the arm and falls off since his suit is only bulletproof from a distance. DD can absolutely hurt Bats. Especially with his batons.

  99. Jake_Uzumaki May 23, 2015 at 12:12 pm -      #99

    Well since the agreement was to substitute (ie replace, use instead of, use as an alternative to, use in place of, swap, exchange) Nolan Batman in all matches involving…would that be flat out changing the incarnation like what happened with Man of Steel and JLU Superman in Superman vs Naruto?

  100. Nsl98 May 23, 2015 at 1:02 pm -      #100

    Seems pretty legitimate to me:
    www.mtv.com/news/1590432/batman-gotham-knight-offers-anime-mutant-cyborg-versions-of-the-dark-knight/

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Raiders of the Lost Ark - This is an amazing read on the thought process between George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and Lawrence Kasdan as they talk through the concepts of this amazing film. It's practically peering into the thought process of some of the most influential film makers of our day. And amazingly, shows how creative Lucas was.

Help Out Nepal

Finally a good reason to support Destiny.

Modern Gaming

Sad but true.

Curiosity Rover Spotted by Mars Orbiter on Mount Sharp

Humanity is the invading alien now...

Nope

No way I go here alone

17 Rare Star Wars Pictures

To see them, click here

Comic Con 2013 Cosplay Gallery

Just a ton of pictures of cosplayers from the 2013 Comic Con event

Ancient Aliens Map

If you ever watched the show "Ancient Aliens" and wanted a quick reference to where all the locations they mention are at, this is the site for you!

Fictional Universes Database

Soon to be shut down by Google, but here is a great starting point for Fictional Universes

99 Star Wars Pics

Some are cool, some are a bit absurd, but they are all based on Star Wars

Alternate Movie Posters

Something a bit distinct - Check them out

Epic Swiss Army Knife

Not Really...

Future Me

Write yourself an email letter to the future - Future Me

Neil Degrasse Tyson

Star Talk Radio - As always, keep looking up!