No More Blood for the Blood God

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Suggested by Friendlysociopath

ADMIN RULING: Souls – based on the idea that Heaven and Hell exist, and humans traditionally aspire to get to Heaven, for the sake of this particular battle, Souls exist. (added on 4/28/15, at the 270 comments mark.)

Scenario: After decades of striking fear into enemy and ally alike, Kharn (warhammer-40k) has finally been cornered by several teams- each intending to leave with nothing less than his severed head. 
Location: Kharn will begin in the Notre Dame Cathedral; everyone else will begin several miles away in each cardinal direction. 
Objectives: Kharn will act in character, trying to kill and destroy as best he can while staying alive; he knows about the Teams and their members.
The Teams each want to collect Kharn’s head and bring it back to the Silver Platter located at their starting area. 
The Silver Platter cannot be destroyed or moved from the starting area. 
The Teams know there are other Teams out there; the knowledge they have of one another at start is just the description line of each Team.
No teleporting into the cathedral.



Team Psychic
Characters that use various powers related to their mind to alter reality.
1. Kyousuke Hyobu (Zettai Karen Children Unlimited) 1st time appearing
2. Tatsumaki (Onepunch-Man) 1st time appearing
3. Gideon Wyeth (Advent Rising) 1st time appearing
4. Felli Loss (Chrome Shelled Regios) 1st time appearing

Team Tech
Beings augmented by tech to increase their combat effectiveness.
1. Batman (DC)
2. Raiden (Metal Gear)
3. Samus Arran (Metroid)
4. Sam Gideon (Vanquish)

Team Demon
Demonic beings from another dimension, either fully or just in-part.
1. Dante (Devil May Cry)
2. Bartimaeus (Bartimaeus trilogy) 1st time appearing
3. Inuyasha (Inuyasha)
4. Alucard (Castlevania)

Team Mutant
Humans that have been altered in some way to amplify or change their abilities.
1. Luffy (One Piece)
2. X-23 (Marvel)
3. Eragon (Inheritance Series)
4. Cole McGrath (Infamous)

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322 Comments on "No More Blood for the Blood God"

  1. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 10:06 pm -      #1

    Damn, I don’t know where to start really. Though I am really happy Luffy isn’t completely out his league this match. He is getting a HUGE power boost here in like 10 hours when the latest manga is released.

    Also, why not alucard from hellsing? That guy actually has feats….

  2. Friendlysociopath April 22, 2015 at 10:25 pm -      #2

    O_O
    Didn’t expect this to be posted so soon; my respect thread for Hybou isn’t done yet! and I still haven’t looked up what Gideon can do
    q-q

    @pimp
    It was a collective effort; I asked for demons and I was given demons.

  3. Nsl98 April 22, 2015 at 10:38 pm -      #3

    So, who on each team has life sensing capabilities?

    Whichever team has that at least knows where Kharn is.

  4. Commander Cross April 22, 2015 at 10:40 pm -      #4

    @FriendlySociopath at #2

    Your fight gets posted yet still no word on the Round Table Free-for-all I suggested!? T_T

    You asked for Gideon’s Powers, I’m helping out the Hunt.

    Check out the Psychic Powers Demo here.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEeL6owUUr4

    Next in line will be Passive Powers, and Playlists aren’t intended.

    If you’re not seeing the Psychic Powers list, something is wrong.

  5. Neon Lord April 22, 2015 at 10:45 pm -      #5

    I think Gideon is the fastest in terms of travel speed here. (Although I only have a general idea of most of the characters). He can just rocket slide down a street to the cathedral pretty easily.

    If all the teams want Kharn’s head, they wouldn’t be aiming for instant disintegration or blowing him into bloody chunks, would they? Just a clean decapitation?

  6. Friendlysociopath April 22, 2015 at 10:53 pm -      #6

    Alright well, here’s the respect thread I’m making for Hyoubu.
    www.factpiletopia.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=148673&p=435249#p435249

    And a brief look at how he acts in combat

    From the timestamp to 1:07 we see the Major just toying around to get some attention.

    If all the teams want Kharn’s head, they wouldn’t be aiming for instant disintegration or blowing him into bloody chunks, would they? Just a clean decapitation?

    Or ripping it off, several people here are capable of one or the other.

  7. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 10:56 pm -      #7

    Honestly… when i saw gideon under the psychic team… i really though you guys would have meant gideon ravenor. I am extremely disappointed now.

  8. Friendlysociopath April 22, 2015 at 11:14 pm -      #8

    And the other guy I really wanted to introduce besides Hyoubu; Bartimaeus.

    Bart is a spirit of the Djinn class- there are 5 levels of spirits in his universe:
    Imps
    Foliots
    Djinni
    Afrits
    Marids

    Bartimaeus indicates that going up against a spirit of higher level than you is something along the lines of intentional suicide; this is noted as Bart is a tremendous smartass around anything and anyone until an Afrit or a magician capable of summoning one is around at which point he becomes the epitome of politeness.

    Bart can see all 7 ‘planes’ of reality; invisibility only extends to the 2nd or 4th plane; the “true form” of a demon is visible on the 7th plane.
    Demons can shapeshift their forms on lower planes; everything from giant rocs (the bird) to smoke, to becoming invisible, to small beetles. Bartimaeus frequently uses a small Egyptian boy as his “base form” but is perfectly willing to change when needed.

    While he has some physical feats (which I will look up tomorrow) Bart mostly uses spells for combat:
    Detonation: They appear to be large green explosions usually strong enough to blow apart walls or ‘vaporize’ a human being
    Plasm: A plasm is a bolt of force which can be shot by men as well as spirits, they appear to disintegrate whatever they strike
    Inferno: It is described as a flash of light that engulfs the target in red-hot flame of varying colors. Bart fires a blast of this holding back and was entirely surprised he wasn’t facing charred corpses for humans (humans in this universe have started being born resistant to magic, big plot point in later books)
    Convulsion: Strings of power that throttle whatever they strike.
    Spasm: Blasts that shake apart whatever they strike.
    Compression: An attack that causes whatever it hits to implode into a small marble sized piece of dense matter.
    Pestilence: Pestilences most often appear as sickly green clouds of vapor acidic enough to eat away skin and kill human beings.
    Flux: A Flux is a wide-area attack that negates magic of most sorts, including that of demons and other spells.
    Shield: Shields are (usually domed) constructs of protective magic designed to protect the user from physical and/or magical attack.
    Void: A Void is basically creating a void that sucks up an enemy.
    Pulse: Used by spirits, Pulses are sonar-like spells that allow one to accurately detect the strength and location of surrounding magical forces, usually small and marble sized, spherical in shape, and have an array of colours to indicate the magnitude of the magic detected.
    Hurricane: In the Golem’s Eye, Bartimaeus summoned a strong gust of wind to blow the Mercenary off the mountain.
    Obedient Breath: Used by Bartimaeus in the Golem’s Eye to dismantle a low-level nexus. (He breathes into a sort of energy barrier and changes it to make a hole)
    He can also create a shield that requires some energy to maintain, said shield is not reliant on the object it is used on
    (Example, he put a shield on a door and let a dumb Djinn just keep blasting the door, despite the door being reduced to nothing after a few blasts- the shield held)

  9. Alpha or Omega April 22, 2015 at 11:23 pm -      #9

    Hey, Friendly. Can you specify the classic Alucard?
    /
    “Also, why not alucard from hellsing? That guy actually has feats….”
    /
    Wut?
    youtu.be/_iGdRa97FnE?t=130
    Under the disguise of Arikado, Alucard soulsteals several enemies.
    youtu.be/GUFZWHzMRPA?t=12
    youtu.be/D3X-p8GZnps?t=374
    Displays swordsman ship, super speed and a large attack.
    /
    Anyway, Alucard has stuff such as time stops, intangibility with mist form, and has items that can revive him,
    He also has summons and stuff.
    /
    shrines.rpgclassics.com/psx/castlevsn/armor.shtml

  10. Rookie April 23, 2015 at 12:01 am -      #10

    @pimpmage

    “Damn, I don’t know where to start really. Though I am really happy Luffy isn’t completely out his league this match. He is getting a HUGE power boost here in like 10 hours when the latest manga is released.”

    Here is feats for Tatsumaki:

    Ship destroys entire city:
    img.bato.to/comics/2013/12/05/o/read52a0cb8ef010f/img000004.jpg
    img.bato.to/comics/2013/12/05/o/read52a0cb8ef010f/img000008.jpg
    img.bato.to/comics/2013/12/05/o/read52a0cb8ef010f/img000010.jpg

    Tatsumaki does this:

    img.bato.to/comics/2014/03/01/o/read5311c7b2a6b67/img000019.jpg
    img.bato.to/comics/2014/03/01/o/read5311c7b2a6b67/img000020.jpg
    img.bato.to/comics/2014/03/01/o/read5311c7b2a6b67/img000021.jpg
    img.bato.to/comics/2014/03/13/o/read53221ac87b692/img000003.png

    Tatsumaki takes a beating from GS and still alive and able to fight:

    img.bato.to/comics/2013/08/04/o/read51fe28b9b4c67/img000012.jpg
    img.bato.to/comics/2013/08/04/o/read51fe28b9b4c67/img000014.jpg

  11. DokuSaki April 23, 2015 at 12:08 am -      #11

    Is the end book eragon? If so this is just not fair. I mean he can kill karn the other teams in a word. Then teleport karns body to him and cut off the head. I would reccomend brisngr eragon to make it fair. Even draining life and mind rape tactics are on the table. Does any of the other teams have stops for that?
    not to mension isn’t luffy getting gear forth pretty soon?

  12. Alpha or Omega April 23, 2015 at 12:09 am -      #12

    Anyway, Raiden and Samus should be able to take Kharn in a one-v-one.
    Gideon would struggle though.
    Samus’ weapon though, would be a problem in that it might not leave a head depending on the weapon. The power bomb would not be a viable option, but the beams and missiles would be valuable.
    Raiden’s weapon, however, the high frequency blade, is ideal for taking Kharn’s head off.
    With the vast amount of communication technology team tech has, they should be able to communicate with each other when Kharn is found and take down Kharn as a team.
    Batman and Raiden specializes as stealth and can use it to find Kharn and avoid the opposing teams.
    Samus and Gideon are the speedsters of the tech team that can run at a superfast speed to cover ground.
    I wonder if Gideon vs Kharn would be a good match.
    /
    In team demon, Dante would be able to take on Kharn mano-a-mano since he was winning in a match against Kharn here.
    tl;dr, it was the speed blitz argument and the strength of Dante that made him a winner.
    Alucard would struggle though. He doesn’t have the strength Dante has, but he reacts to trans-sonic speedsters so he should be fine.
    However, he has a time stop and soul steal. Does Kharn’s protection defend him from time stops and soul steal?
    /
    Of team mutant, I would think it’s up to Luffy and Cole McGrath to take down Kharn.
    X-23 would be support.
    What was the stance on Kharn’s magic resistances and how would they work against Eragon?

  13. Alpha or Omega April 23, 2015 at 12:25 am -      #13

    @Dokusaki
    Alucard and Dante have time manipulation.
    They can take out Eragon if it ever came to that.
    With time-stops and time-slows, they can decapitate Eragon before he utters a word in an encounter.
    /
    Samus’ preference is ranged combat than melee.
    How is Eragon’s reaction times?
    Samus can dodge energy bullets at point blank and has dodged super sonic beams at close range. She can simply vaporize Eragon if he doesn’t have a good reaction time. It doesn’t help that she has defense against life-energy draining and mind rape since she faces off against Metroids, Ing, and Phazon.
    /
    Batman and Raiden use stealth. It’s unlikely that Eragon will detect them considering that the former casually sneaks around Superman while the latter is highly experienced in stealth.

  14. DokuSaki April 23, 2015 at 12:26 am -      #14

    I dout eragon’s magic is resisted as it manipulation the world by bending it throw his imaginatikn and words. I thing eragon could kill karn easy. He has like a inf number of ways of going die. All of them take like no energy and even if they did erogons reserves end of the series is kinda stulid. I think the waro will protect him again eragon mind rape but nothing else.

  15. DokuSaki April 23, 2015 at 12:34 am -      #15

    Samus’ preference is ranged combat than melee.
    How is Eragon’s reaction times?
    Samus can dodge energy bullets at point blank and has dodged super sonic beams at close range. She can simply vaporize Eragon if he doesn’t have a good reaction time. It doesn’t help that she has defense against life-energy draining and mind rape since she faces off against Metroids, Ing, and Phazon.
    —-
    Eragon is quite fast and can easily dodge arrows and fight faster than eye can see. But eragon can kill her easy with his death words.

    Batman and Raiden use stealth. It’s unlikely that Eragon will detect them considering that the former casually sneaks around Superman while the latter is highly experienced in stealth.

    Stealth means nothing to eragon he can sense everything around him ina great distance. He can feel every bird ant worm. He can also feel thier intent be it hostile or not. I think batman would die to the kill words mostly being human and raiden being more machine will get mind raped by him or he just crushes his heart or something along the lines. Eragon end of series is a house.

  16. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 12:43 am -      #16

    Eragorn may be able to sense everything nearby, but he also has to actively use that ability, something he’s not prone to doing while in combat. While he can use his death words, he’s proven time and again, he doesn’t. Mostly because even slight magical defenses render them useless.

    Could Batman get the drop on Eragorn? Probably. Is he a more skilled fighter? Probably. But Eragorn would destroy him in a fight. That said, this isn’t Eragorn VS Batman. These teams arn’t competing to kill each other, they’re competing to kill Kharn. Considering Kharn’s magical resistances, I doubt Eragorn’s death words would work. He’d likely be forced into melee combat.

    That said. Raiden would mince Eragorn. His speed feats are absolutely bonkers. And his sword is more than capable of taking Eragorn apart. And most likely, Kharn himself.

    While Eragorn has the potential to mind-rape people, he’s never done it. The closest he’s ever gone to doing it, required him to know the individuals true name in order to brutally access and dominate their minds. He doesn’t have access to the true names of anyone here, and doesn’t know them well enough to guess them.

  17. Alpha or Omega April 23, 2015 at 12:50 am -      #17

    “Eragon is quite fast and can easily dodge arrows and fight faster than eye can see. But eragon can kill her easy with his death words.”
    /
    Samus’ beams, move faster than the speed of sound. Arrows, move less than the speed of sound. I don’t think he’ll be able to react in time.
    Also, how will death words work on energy?
    Samus can simply go into morph ball mode to turn into energy. Has Eragon’s words ever killed energy?
    /
    “Stealth means nothing to eragon he can sense everything around him ina great distance. He can feel every bird ant worm. He can also feel thier intent be it hostile or not”
    /
    Can you quote this from the book?
    /
    “raiden being more machine will get mind raped by him or”
    /
    While Raiden doesn’t have a defense against mind rape, being more machine doesn’t mean you’ll be mind raped more easily.
    /
    “he just crushes his heart or something along the lines.”
    /
    He doesn’t have a heart.

  18. DokuSaki April 23, 2015 at 12:53 am -      #18

    True absolute zero. However he has mind raped other character including the cheif urgol. I know it was volentary but he cab do this and thats mental defences. Not magical they are clearly two things in eragon series.

    As for the drop i dout it. Eragon end series has city level senses. like when he sensed all of the dwarven city. He will sense them and everyone long before they cross paths. But you are right. This is not a vs. As for karn I think eragon will sense the chaos and the warp. I think the death words will work. But i dont know anything about karns magic res. Got anything i can read on how it works in 40k.

    but in terms of melee i dout eragon can get the space marine armor heard that stuff is very tanky.

  19. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 1:02 am -      #19

    The death words simply won’t work on Kharn. Historically, the slightest magical defense is enough to nullify them. It’s why they’re never abused the crap out of. And why Warfare in that universe is described as magicians on both sides attempting to break the mental defenses of each other, killing them, just so they have the ability to kill every soldier that mage was protecting, with death words. The death words arn’t going to work on Kharn.

    If it was voluntary, it wasn’t mind raping. Mind raping necessitates force. Urgol allowed him in. He doesn’t have true names. He might be able to mentally combat someone, but I don’t even think he’d manage to mentally penetrate Batman’s mind. Say what you will about the man, but he has an incredible amount of mental willpower.

    Eragorn is powerful enough, sure. He’ll be useful for his team. But he’s not the be all and end all in this fight. I’m personally backing Raiden. Fast, and i’d bet on his HF Sword being able to get through Kharn’s armor.

  20. DokuSaki April 23, 2015 at 1:12 am -      #20

    Samus’ beams, move faster than the speed of sound. Arrows, move less than the speed of sound. I don’t think he’ll be able to react in time.
    Also, how will death words work on energy?
    Samus can simply go into morph ball mode to turn into energy. Has Eragon’s words ever killed energy?
    —-
    No. However i think he can sense her before she gets in range. What distance are talking about in terms of range because eragon is at least city level.

    Can you quote this from the book?

    Would love to but i am about 100 miles away from it. I can poitn you in the right direction. I would say eldes.t late eldest. Early brisngr.

    While Raiden doesn’t have a defense against mind rape, being more machine doesn’t mean you’ll be mind raped more easily.
    —-
    Could you explain. Because eragon only needs It to have a conseness to rape it.

  21. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 1:22 am -      #21

    ‘Could you explain. Because eragon only needs it to have a conseness to rape it’

    Utterly irrelivant. He can’t pull off mind raping fast enough. The only reason it doesn’t require effort, and fighting the other person’s mentality directly, is if he has the person’s true name. He doesn’t. He’d need to mentally engage Raiden. Raiden may not be a mental dynamo, but it isn’t required. Eragon has never pulled off mind raping over a huge distance. He’d need to be near Raiden. If he’s near Raiden, he’s near Raiden’s sword. If he’s near Raiden’s sword, he’s dead.

    I’ve read the whole series, i’ve never seen Eragon sense life throughout a large area without intending to do it. Actively. It’s a meditative state. He’s not running around doing things at the same time.

    I’d actually argue he could drop Samus though. She, has no defenses against the death words. Her armor doesn’t. Unless she’s got some kind of magical defenses I don’t know about. But, once again. This isn’t about them killing each other. This is about killing Kharn. Eragon isn’t getting to Kharn first, he doesn’t have the ability to instantly kill Kharn. This puts him pretty far down on the rankings.

  22. DokuSaki April 23, 2015 at 1:23 am -      #22

    But I don’t even think he’d manage to mentally penetrate Batman’s mind.
    —–
    I think he would because i dout batman knowns how to combat it. You need complete focus on a single thing to penitrate that mind. Putting that aside i dont think batman is magic proof.

    Sadly with the 136 eldarie (however you spell it) eragon can do stupid powerful things.

  23. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 1:28 am -      #23

    @DokuSaki
    “I think he would because i dout batman knowns how to combat it. You need complete focus on a single thing to penitrate that mind.”

    [youtube www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiciupmfnTo&w=420&h=315

    Meet Batman.

    Curse my poor embedding skills!

  24. Alpha or Omega April 23, 2015 at 1:29 am -      #24

    “No. However i think he can sense her before she gets in range. What distance are talking about in terms of range because eragon is at least city level.”
    /
    Which he needs to be in a meditative state in order to locate Samus. When he uses the death words, it wouldn’t work since Samus wouldn’t be there anymore since he left his meditative state.
    /
    Never mind that if Absolute Zero is true about having slight magical defense, Samus should be fine since she faces against Bryonians’ primal tradition(which is basically magic) and tanks magic enhanced with phazon from a stone golem.
    In that case, it would also extend to Alucard since he has magical defenses.
    /
    “Could you explain. Because eragon only needs It to have a conseness to rape it.”
    /
    I didn’t say Raiden had a defense against mind-rape.
    I said being machine doesn’t make you more susceptible to mind rape.
    Though, if the mind rape is voluntary, then it wouldn’t work anyway.

  25. DokuSaki April 23, 2015 at 1:39 am -      #25

    Utterly irrelivant. He can’t pull off mind raping fast enough. The only reason it doesn’t require effort, and fighting the other person’s mentality directly, is if he has the person’s true name. He doesn’t. He’d need to mentally engage Raiden. Raiden may not be a mental dynamo, but it isn’t required. Eragon has never pulled off mind raping over a huge distance. He’d need to be near Raiden. If he’s near Raiden, he’s near Raiden’s sword. If he’s near Raiden’s sword, he’s dead.

    Eragon can compete in melee with people who would normally speedblitz him with the way of knowing. It a technique that predicts what your oppont is going to do.

    It true at eldist the eragon had to meditate of large distances but post brisingr and with the help of the dragon soul things he no longer needs that.

    As for magic resistance i dout that aplies anymore at the end of inretiance. He can magic the actual way magic works by just saying its name. He has stated himself that he “can do anything.” Eragon is well know for making spells up on the spot and being able to cast a vast aray of spells on a limited volcabulary. Now he has access to all the things.

  26. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 1:44 am -      #26

    No. The meditative state was never removed. The dragon hearts never changed the rules of magic, they merely give Eragon access to -more- magical energy. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Knowing the name of magic means he can alter the way magic works, as he knows it. But nobody else in this battle uses the ancient language, or is bound by it. It does absolutely nothing for him, and it also doesn’t allow him to do things without magical cost.

    He can’t make up spells on the spot. He speaks in the ancient language, and the result is what he says. It’s like saying i’m making up sentences on the spot by typing. Technically true, but it isn’t as though he’s coming up with the individual words, and the definitions of those words.

    Predicting what Raiden is going to do, is useless. He has no speed feat or reaction feat that puts him remotely on par with Raiden. He might block one blow, two and most. But Raiden would evicerate him. He’s -way- too fast.

  27. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 1:48 am -      #27

    Also. The Ra’zac have natural magic immunities, and are stated as being immune to the death words as a result. The death words are not working on Kharn.

  28. DokuSaki April 23, 2015 at 1:59 am -      #28

    He can’t make up spells on the spot. He speaks in the ancient language, and the result is what he says. It’s like saying i’m making up sentences on the spot by typing. Technically true, but it isn’t as though he’s coming up with the individual words, and the definitions of those words.
    —-
    No first book. Brom said something along the lines of what word you know in the ancient langage is irrelivent when it comes to Casting magic as long as you can link that word to what you want to do.
    As for cost he has 136 stones that make It irellivant due to the sheer size of energy pool. It is enough energy to move an entire continent where he want. His energy pool is almost inf. Not to mentsion the belt. The ring and pommel.

    How fast are we talking exactly.? For raiden. Because wards are a thing.

    Also he sensed everyone in the battle on the flaming lands and that was while fighting and tired. He improved alot since then in every way. He mastered sensing along time ago and keeps his mind in that state unless he can sense a mental attact.

  29. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 2:13 am -      #29

    ‘No first book. Brom said something along the lines of what word you know in the ancient langage is irrelivent when it comes to Casting magic as long as you can link that word to what you want to do.’

    You mean the line that was completely undercut in the second book by this sequence?

    No! No! It can’t be! Eragon recoiled from the possibility. “The effect a spell has isn’t only determined by the word’s, sense but also by your intent, and I didn’t intend to harm-”
    “You cannot gainsay a word’s inherent nature. Twist it, yes. Guide it, yes. But not contravene its definition to imply the very opposite.” Eldest, Page 295

    The words he uses does matter, it matters immensely.

    His energy pool isn’t infinite. It’s limited. It’s huge, but not infinite. It’s why he doesn’t cast spells in absolutes. If he did, he could kill himself. It runs dry. The instance of him saying he could move a continent is also wrong. Eragon himself stated he could possibly blow away a mountain, and that could easily have been hyperbole.

    I’d also argue that the hearts almost classify as outside help. Seeing as they’re seperate entities that assist Eragon by adding their power to his. He’s even had conversations with Gladyr in that state.

  30. Alpha or Omega April 23, 2015 at 2:14 am -      #30

    Raiden is can dodge bullets two meters away while driving and disturbed. Other than that, he casually blocks bullets and he can swing many times in less than a second.

  31. DokuSaki April 23, 2015 at 2:40 am -      #31

    No! No! It can’t be! Eragon recoiled from the possibility. “The effect a spell has isn’t only determined by the word’s, sense but also by your intent, and I didn’t intend to harm-”
    “You cannot gainsay a word’s inherent nature. Twist it, yes. Guide it, yes. But not contravene its definition to imply the very opposite.” Eldest, Page 295

    that is from him blessing that girl right? And not from him casting a spell. In the end if i remember correctly it was a gramma issue nwot a word.

    Raiden is can dodge bullets two meters away while driving and disturbed. Other than that, he casually blocks bullets and he can swing many times in less than a second.
    —-
    eragon can swing many times a second. I cannot remember how fast he is but it fast enough to crearte shockwaves that ripple through a training camp. Also to cause sparks on the swords. I can find the quotw on that one. I think.

  32. Alpha or Omega April 23, 2015 at 2:46 am -      #32

    That’s great and all, but Eragon can’t block at all. Raiden’s sword is a high-frequency blade which means it will cut through Eragon’s sword.
    /
    This gives Eragon less options in swordplay and he will have to dodge instead of block.

  33. DokuSaki April 23, 2015 at 2:53 am -      #33

    That’s great and all, but Eragon can’t block at all. Raiden’s sword is a high-frequency blade which means it will cut through Eragon’s sword.

    Brysngr (his sword.) Is enchanted to never rust, tarnish, dull or break. It is indestructable.

  34. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 2:56 am -      #34

    The blessing required magical energy in order to make it work. It was said in the ancient language, and eragon purposefully used power while saying it. It was a spell. A curse, in Oromis’s words. The words matter. Stop trying to argue otherwise.

    Also, it was a curse because he said the wrong word. Not because he didn’t add correct punctuation. He said Shield, instead of Shielded. A difference that small matters enough to utterly change his magic. It. Matters.

    Eragon’s sword would likely survive contact with Raiden’s sword. It’s magical up the wing-wang, and indestructable, it also never loses it’s edge. However, considering Raiden’s feats in Metal Gear Rising: Revengence, Eragon’s sword stability is irrelivant. He won’t survive. Raiden is capable of judo flipping a metal gear with his raw strength, and he’s fast enough that he can swing his sword faster than a helicopter blade moves, which is generally around Mach 1. He can do this many times before the blade even completes it’s rotation, and it’s easily viewed in the game to boot.

    This isn’t about Eragon. There are other fighters here. And from this alone, Eragon isn’t the biggest threat. He can’t instantly kill Kharn. There are other fighters with more reason to pull that off. Could he fight Kharn? Probably. But he’s not killing Kharn, much less Raiden.

  35. DokuSaki April 23, 2015 at 3:14 am -      #35

    With 136 dragon souls that makes him a threat. He could pick up the entire cathedral raise to the outer atmostspere and drop it. Killing karn and everyone else including him. But you are right.
    What will most likly do if he knows there compition is teleport his team right infront of Karn and do that as soon as he senes them which would be an hour at most. Can the rest of the team get there before that?

  36. Limbo Lowk April 23, 2015 at 3:20 am -      #36

    Gideon Wyeth huh. Man, I wish that game had done better. It probably would’ve looked beautiful in current gen. I happen to have the manual for his power descriptions in case anybody wanted them.
    Time manipulation
    His Charge
    Move through time and space with such force Gideon bashes into object when shifting into the position they occupy.
    Speed up
    The alternate time-Damp mode speeds Gideon to the point where time and the motion of all other beings slows to a crawl.

    Lift
    He can lift a few things at once. Not sure about his max but I’ve seen him lift things bigger then cars.
    Redirect energy to levitate and control enemies.
    Eventually he can just hold you in place while he is free to run around.
    Alternate mode includes the ability to keep the enemy suspended in one place while Gideon moves freely

    Gravity manipulation.
    Use the surge power to shift gravitational energy in a focused direction.
    Increase mastery and gain the power to snatch a weapon out of an enemy’s grasp.


    Negate, the energy riot shield the size of a person that he can leave around. Given some of the descriptions for the weapons used against him it’s pretty decent.
    Gideon can create a shield to repulse attacks and as mastery increases, he can create multiple shield.
    The other version is a bubble. I think there’s a feat of it letting him casually floating out of a exploding volcano with it
    Another alternate mode generates a defensive sphere that surrounds and protects Gideon as he moves.

    Aeon Pulse
    Gideon amplifies his own electromagnetic field to unleash a lethal pulse and ultimately masters the radial flare for a full 360 degrees of destruction.

    cryokinesis
    Slice into enemies with lethal absolute zero-temperature ice shards. Master the shatter power to transform you enemy into a frozen, motionless statue. Once you reach the ultimate mastery of the shatter power, the radius of each attack increase to encompass more enemies.
    ===
    Kaull firelance one of the weapons the bad guys use against him.
    Charged-stripped ions literally tear through spacetime, gathering entropic energy weaves before impacting on the target.

    His pistols are either a .90 caliber pistol with armor piercing rounds or a fusion weapon that fires a plasma-coated kernel of radioactive matter that can fuse explosively upon contact.

  37. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 3:22 am -      #37

    Well. There’s a leap. Name one instance of Eragon teleporting a single, living, being. Much less several. I can’t think of one. In fact, if he -could- have done that, I can think of many instances where it’d have been -incredibly- helpful.

    Raiden would almost certainly be there in under an hour. I can’t speak for every character. Luffy would make it in under an hour, just by slingshotting himself. Cole would make it there in under an hour, he’s a parkour expert, and capable of gliding with lightning. He’s got no need to stand around waiting.

    Once again, i’d still classify the dragon hearts as outside help, rather than equipment, by the same logic that Master Chief typically loses Cortana by the same rules.

    Eragon is not deciding this by himself. I can’t speak for all of the characters, but i’m sure others can list their abilities. Hell, if it’s just a few miles, I expect Batman would get there on foot in under an hour. Sonuvabitch is fast and persistant.

    What i’m saying here is. Eragon is a part of the fight. But. He can’t get there first, he can’t get his team there first, he can’t hit the hardest, he can’t hit the fastest, and his target is renouned for levels of magic resistance.

    Consider the other characters, for crying out loud.

  38. Alpha or Omega April 23, 2015 at 3:24 am -      #38

    “Brysngr (his sword.) Is enchanted to never rust, tarnish, dull or break. It is indestructable.”
    “It’s magical up the wing-wang, and indestructable, it also never loses it’s edge”
    /
    Was this indestructibility a claim from a character in-universe, or is it true?
    If a character claimed it, he/she/it wouldn’t account for a weapon such as high-frequency blade.
    /
    “he’s fast enough that he can swing his sword faster than a helicopter blade moves, which is generally around Mach 1″
    /
    Only if it’s going at a forward velocity. The helicopter was not going at forward velocity.
    Doesn’t make the feat less impressive though.

  39. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 3:28 am -      #39

    @Alpha or Omega

    The sword’s durability is technically a claim, but it’s generally supported by the universe, and has never been faulted. No Dragon Rider blade has ever broken, regardless of force put on them. We can’t speculate if they have a limit or not, because they’ve never been shown to be under stress.

  40. Alpha or Omega April 23, 2015 at 3:30 am -      #40

    I don’t see why teleporting into the cathedral is relevant when the scenario says this.
    “No teleporting into the cathedral.”
    /
    @AbsoluteZero
    I feel like that would head into a no-limits-fallacy with the lack of showings under stress, but like you said, the indestructibility doesn’t matter with the strength Raiden has on him.

  41. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 3:31 am -      #41

    @Alpha or Omega

    He’s also never shown the ability to teleport himself, or other living beings.

  42. DokuSaki April 23, 2015 at 3:37 am -      #42

    Was this indestructibility a claim from a character in-universe, or is it true?
    If a character claimed it, he/she/it wouldn’t account for a weapon such as high-frequency blade.
    —–
    both. Brom and the sword smith who made it said it. It is very common knowledge that rider swords are this way. As absolute said this sword is enchanted as anything.

    Well. There’s a leap. Name one instance of Eragon teleporting a single, living, being. Much less several. I can’t think of one. In fact, if he -could- have done that, I can think of many instances where it’d have been -incredibly- helpful.
    —–
    Here is a wiki inheritance.wikia.com/wiki/Teleportation
    also why he does not use it PIS but i can tell you where he learns it. Roughly. If you are interested.

  43. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 3:40 am -      #43

    @DokuSaki


    You’re claiming he can teleport living beings. however, in the entire series, no living being uses it to teleport. Teleportation is only used on objects, and exhausts everyone who does it. If you want to claim that he can teleport himself, and an entire team, all living beings, the burden of proof is on -you-

  44. DokuSaki April 23, 2015 at 3:51 am -      #44

    I mean ayra teleported saphira (a living thing) across the world into the spine. He is a more powerful spell caster. Also the dragons do not cout as outside help. Anyway point is mute. Not tele into the builing but what about bring the building to him?

    Just looked up the rules. I interprit it as he may not ask speak or comminticate to them but can tap their power.

  45. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 3:58 am -      #45

    @DokuSaki

    Arya teleported an egg. Not a house sized dragon. And it cost all of her energy, and made her fall unconscious. And she actually still missed where she’d intended to send it to. In fact, she actually had to lock on to a person she already -knew- just to target the damn thing. And she still sent it to his son.

    Why don’t the dragons count as outside help? He didn’t have them for most of the series, and they’re all seperate, sentient beings.

    He sure as -shit- can’t teleport a building to him. Nobody, but nobody, in the entire series, has teleported something -to- them. Away, yes. To? No way in hell.

    If you want to claim he can do these things. Prove it. Proving it, is on you. Nobody else. I’ve provided reasons as to why your claims are incorrect. I’ve cited reasons. If you want to disprove me, prove he can.

  46. Limbo Lowk April 23, 2015 at 4:08 am -      #46

    The shielding vs volcano scene
    youtu.be/8W9ap6nvhLs?t=5m39s
    5:39-6:17 in case it doesn’t jump to it.

    And here
    youtu.be/qBVepe6I4V0?t=5m4s
    Is the final power Gideon got. There was no description for it but it looks like he collapsed him into nothing.

  47. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 4:12 am -      #47

    @Lowk


    Well, that shielding definitely gives him some damn good durability. And the crushing is useful. Is it magic based, or?

  48. Limbo Lowk April 23, 2015 at 4:18 am -      #48

    So didn’t notice Tatsumaki at first. Rookie you link are broken for me. Don’t know if it is for anyone else. Either way
    i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/Rookie122/Tatsumaki_zps1e5ea478.png
    i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/Rookie122/Tatsumaki1_zpsad7319e7.png
    I think sh might solo most of the people here.

  49. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 4:20 am -      #49

    @Lowk

    Well, to be fair. It isn’t about killing most of the people here, it’s about killing Kharn. Also. Holy shit that seems excessive, I did not know that character.

  50. TheSorrow April 23, 2015 at 5:21 am -      #50

    Some more feats for Tornado (aka Tatsumaki). She’s been shown to to be capable of unearthing an entire hideout that was buried inside a mountain, just to get one person 1500 meters below the surface.

    www.mangahere.co/manga/onepunch_man_one/c070/
    www.mangahere.co/manga/onepunch_man_one/c070/11.html

  51. TheSorrow April 23, 2015 at 5:30 am -      #51

    And I am sure the question of whether or not direct psychic attacks can affect Kharn will come up in the future. She can easily throw around objects the size of buildings in rapid succession.

    www.mangahere.co/manga/onepunch_man/c034.5/13.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/onepunch_man/c034.5/14.html

  52. DokuSaki April 23, 2015 at 9:16 am -      #52

    Arya teleported an egg. Not a house sized dragon. And it cost all of her energy, and made her fall unconscious. And she actually still missed where she’d intended to send it to. In fact, she actually had to lock on to a person she already -knew- just to target the damn thing. And she still sent it to his son.
    —-
    But it was living meaning it was possible and erago ln has a much larger pool of energy to pull from not to mension he can pull from the life forces of anything around him and his ring alone (not even full) said he could destroy a mountain with it. Then he has his belt and pommel to draw from his natuaral pool alone is stupid big. Even without the gear he is naturaly got a larger pool. Also she was poisoned when she teleported and i think she did it none verbal as well making it even more complicated.

  53. Friendlysociopath April 23, 2015 at 10:04 am -      #53

    Grr, you all ran past 50 already- I’m a bit late:
    Eragon has his endgame stuff before he leaves Alagaesia; no belt but he has several dragon hearts and a fully stocked Brisinger.

    Bear in mind, even with all of those they could only just barely survive the equivalent of a nuke- trying to tank multiple attacks from some of the people here is not going to end well for him.

  54. pimpmage April 23, 2015 at 12:00 pm -      #54

    So Luffy just got a huge speed and strength boost. And he can fly haha. Not that that changes much since he could fling himself around anyway.

  55. Shgon Dunstan April 23, 2015 at 12:06 pm -      #55

    “So Luffy just got a huge speed and strength boost. And he can fly haha. Not that that changes much since he could fling himself around anyway.”

    Also, he makes for a cute bouncy ball. 😆

  56. Friendlysociopath April 23, 2015 at 12:13 pm -      #56

    YES- I can comment again!
    (Was continuously being logged out for some reason)

    Right, physical feats for Bartimaeus:
    He can alter his form nearly at will
    payload31.cargocollective.com/1/6/201652/2933759/Bartimaeus%20GN_sample%20spread_721.jpg
    Durability- Bartimaeus is immune to typical weaponry; at one point an assassin stabs straight through his throat with a knife- it did nothing. Energy attacks should work fine, and it would appear if he takes a physical form you can still “hit” him and his durability then varies by form. He has tanked a lightning bolt without flinching.
    Silver ignores his durability and form and will burn him if he touches it.
    Strength- Varies by form; in Ptolemy’s small boy form he can can punch through a reinforced door, at other points in time he has said he could rip the roof off of a building as a roc and as a gargoyle he picked up a fullsize statue of a human and dolphin and threw it at a mercenary. He mentions in an aside that throwing and catching a half-ton block was nothing for a mid-tier Djinn. He’s also picked up the main mast of an Egyptian ship and whacked an Afrit with it.
    Speed- He won’t be able to keep up with the speedsters here, but he has reached 120 mph as a Pheonix and as a Gargoyle he has run quickly enough to scorch the road behind him.

    Also, anyone who doesn’t have mental defenses is going to have real issues dealing with Hyoubu

    Hyoubu hypnotizes everyone in that city into believing every female looks like the Princess; this includes Espers that have mental defenses against exactly that.

  57. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 8:09 pm -      #57

    @DokuSaki.

    His natural pool of energy alone isn’t stupid big. You’re forgetting how energy in that universe works. It’s stamina. It’s life. He can cast as much magic, as he’s physically able to sustain. He’s beyond human in enhancements, but his magical abilities arn’t near infinite. The ring could -easily- have been hyperbole on Eragon’s part. His knowledge of magic has consistantly been undermined as the series progressed, because he was never taught the finer aspects.

    His ring isn’t an infinite power source either. Once he draws on it, he has to use all of it. And then it’s done. Gone. Kaput.

    Saphira’s egg being alive is something of no small scholarly debate. However. At that point she certainly wasn’t a functioning, active, giant, dragon. Eragon -cannot- teleport living beings. If he -could- he would have. Many. Many, many times. Much less, nobody has ever shown the ability to teleport themselves. I swear, i’m half expecting you to argue that with his energy pool, he could bring someone back from the dead.

    He doesn’t -know- any of the other teams, he doesn’t know Kharn. He can’t teleport them, or much less, to them. He’s not the hardest hitter here. As i’ve consistantly said, Kharn himself is magic resistant. Eragon relies heavily on magic. You’ve got a case of paper meeting scissors there.

    Furthermore. Nobody has ever teleported a group of things. You don’t seem to understand how teleportation works in that series. Or even how magic works. Eragon is exhausted throughout the course of virtually every battle he’s involved in, just due to how much energy he uses. And you expect him to be able to pull off several impossible feats, and still be ready to fight? No. And it’s much less likely without the belt to boot.

    I’m backing team Tech, at the moment. They lack the ability to carpet bomb Kharn, but a Raiden/Batman teamup would likely end in the loss of his head. Batman providing advice, while Raiden provides the sword. The major issue after that, is how they get away with it. I expect team psychic would win in that scenario, simply due to the bonkers level of abilities i’ve seen feated thusfar. I don’t think it matters if a team can kill Kharn or not, so much as it matters they can get away from the other teams once they do.

  58. Friendlysociopath April 23, 2015 at 9:56 pm -      #58

    Huh, I didn’t realize it at the time- but every team can communicate with one another (without being right there and such) except team Demon.

    Team Mutant has Eragon; who can mentally contact and speak to everyone on his team plus AoE scan the city for enemies.
    Team Tech has… well, Tech; they’ve all got radios or call-devices of some kind.
    And Team Psychic has Felli- whose job is to telepathically survey the battlefield and help coordinate attacks with her squad; she’s got a pretty long range too if I remember right.

  59. Alpha or Omega April 23, 2015 at 10:06 pm -      #59

    ” The major issue after that, is how they get away with it. I expect team psychic would win in that scenario, simply due to the bonkers level of abilities i’ve seen feated thusfar.”
    /
    Team tech could give Kharn’s head to Samus since she runs at super sonic speeds and is the most durable of team tech.
    Gideon has an impressive running speed as well.
    /
    I’m more worried about team demon due to time manipulation.
    Alucard has a means of time stop and super speed while Dante is that but time slow.

  60. AbsoluteZero April 23, 2015 at 10:31 pm -      #60

    @Alpha or Omega

    “I’m more worried about team demon due to time manipulation.
    Alucard has a means of time stop and super speed while Dante is that but time slow.”


    Well, arn’t those both limited in duration? I mean, if not. It’s blatantly a case of them immediately winning.

  61. Alpha or Omega April 23, 2015 at 10:53 pm -      #61

    “Well, arn’t those both limited in duration? I mean, if not. It’s blatantly a case of them immediately winning.”
    /
    They are limited in duration, but Alucard can reactivate again. He has a bunch of uses for the time stop.
    Not Dante though.
    /
    Alucard and Dante are the ones on the demon team the others should be worried about.
    Alucard has the soul steal which is another concern.

  62. Ordo11 April 24, 2015 at 9:52 am -      #62

    so Bartmaeus didn’t Bartmaeus get some heavy thing knocked down on Kim when.he was nearly out of power and he was embarrassed when he couldn’t lift it.

  63. Friendlysociopath April 24, 2015 at 10:49 am -      #63

    didn’t Bartmaeus get some heavy thing knocked down on Kim when.he was nearly out of power and he was embarrassed when he couldn’t lift it.

    If you’re talking about the 3rd book I believe that was a small restroom-style building, could be wrong about that one though.

    Aren’t Dante and Alucard’s Time Stops localized? Like in a certain area around them? Or do they just affect everything?

    Additional clip for Hyoubu
    youtu.be/3LbI7Vhn3Bc?t=18m16s
    Has an Unlimited Mode that allows him to use his full powers; can explode a human on command, and THEN blow everything up.

  64. Ordo11 April 24, 2015 at 11:13 am -      #64

    okay so it was the third book, I thought it was the second, but he was basically dead from his master working to death so that is the lowest we could ever see him.

  65. Friendlysociopath April 24, 2015 at 11:20 am -      #65

    Cross, I checked out your video- so if I understood all of that correctly, Gideon Wyeth has access to: extreme time slows, a shield that tanks whatever is thrown at it, teleportation, and the ability to freeze enemies solid? Plus various versions of “shoot them with energy” and the standard telekinesis stuff.
    Wanna post the passive powers?

    okay so it was the third book, I thought it was the second, but he was basically dead from his master working to death so that is the lowest we could ever see him.

    In case it wasn’t clear btw, Bartimaeus goes back to his home plane at the end of that book so he’ll be at full strength here… bringing him in from the 3rd book would just be cruel- stupid Nathaniel.

  66. Commander Cross April 24, 2015 at 11:56 am -      #66

    @FriendlySociopath at #65

    I am Vid-Hunting at the moment for Passive Powers, I’d get them posted already if that wasn’t the case.

    I found this respect thread in the meantime and assuming it’s not in-accurate, This link here is gonna help out quite a bit.

    From the same guy who gave us the other Powers Demo, arrives this Melee focused vid for Advent Rising.

    Yes, Gideon Wyeth is a Super-Soldier in all-but-name really, and also another ‘yes’ on Advent Rising Humans being above and beyond most of what Alagaesian Humanity has to offer that isn’t Galbatorix, Murtagh or Roran.(Third-rate next to the first two but still.)

    Gideon Wyeth winds up a Super-Human/Enhanced Human at some point later in the game itself, and even his H.A.Z.E Gun is noted to have Plasma-Coated Bullets, which generally do more damage than Regular modern-day ‘Vanilla’ Bullets tend to do, but going in-depth on that can be saved for later.

  67. Amm0vamp1r3 April 24, 2015 at 12:05 pm -      #67


    Aren’t Dante and Alucard’s Time Stops localized? Like in a certain area around them? Or do they just affect everything?


    This is a tough question because what we do know about Alucards time stop is when you turn it on most weak enemies are frozen tougher enemies are slowed and some enemies are not effected but range wise. The most we can say is it’s the size of the castle

    When you turn it on you can go from room to room and each will be under the effect of the time stop but it’s only 5 seconds so you can’t get too far before it runs out

  68. Ordo11 April 24, 2015 at 12:18 pm -      #68

    so we are also using his brain to full capacity right? To bad there isn’t Ramurtha stomping around, and the amulet of Samarkand to protect the mortals.

  69. pimpmage April 24, 2015 at 12:28 pm -      #69

    So this should be a better place to repost this feat.

    Luffy One-hit-koes this giant.
    i4.mangapanda.com/one-piece/714/one-piece-4283733.jpg
    i28.mangapanda.com/one-piece/714/one-piece-4283735.jpg

    The very same giant later on withstands 1 milion tons of weight head on actually is able to push it back too. All while remaining conscious.

    i27.mangapanda.com/one-piece/770/one-piece-5363043.jpg
    i3.mangapanda.com/one-piece/770/one-piece-5363045.jpg
    i11.mangapanda.com/one-piece/770/one-piece-5363047.jpg


    Anyone think this translates to a strength feat for luffy?

  70. Friendlysociopath April 24, 2015 at 1:02 pm -      #70

    To bad there isn’t Ramurtha stomping around

    That… would be death for everyone and everything present; especially if we use powerscaling from the Golem of Prague, Nouda, and the staff of Gladstone.
    Hell, people were being killed/transformed by reality warping just by being in the same room as the thing.

    Anyone think this translates to a strength feat for luffy?

    Should in some fashion powerscale into a feat.

  71. Ordo11 April 24, 2015 at 2:32 pm -      #71

    Well, people survived being in that very same room, they just had to be away from Ramurtha, unless they had the amulet of Samarkand. So that brings up an idea, say karn is in Ramurtha, and then you have to get the amulet from an area he can’t access then when you get it you neutralize karn and Ramurtha and take Karn’s head back to base.

  72. Ordo11 April 24, 2015 at 3:54 pm -      #72

    Whoops, misspelled Kharn. Ohh well.

  73. Friendlysociopath April 24, 2015 at 4:37 pm -      #73

    So that brings up an idea, say karn is in Ramurtha, and then you have to get the amulet from an area he can’t access then when you get it you neutralize karn and Ramurtha

    Remember that we have no real way of deciding certain things- it’s why our debates consist of posting feats and debating those. The more complex the scenario is, the harder it is to decide a winner.

  74. Ragnorke April 24, 2015 at 4:52 pm -      #74

    An average human gets knocked out by around 2,000 Newtons of force to the head.
    An average human can bench press around 70 kilograms, which is 700 Newtons.

    That giant was clearly pretty “buff”, and an average human with that physique should be able to lift 200 kilos. Which is 2,000 Newtons.

    Being buffer does mean it would be slightly harder to knock him out, but not by as much, since muscle doesn’t generally grow on your face.
    So lets say it takes 2,500 Newtons to knock him out.

    Now lets scale those measurements to the Giant.
    He created 10 billion Newtons of force.
    10bill / 2,000 = 5 million
    5mill x 2,500 = 12.5 billion

    So Luffy punched with the force of 12.5 billion Newtons to knock the giant out.

    You should keep in mind though that punching with a certain Force, doesn’t mean you can lift a weight with that Force too.
    A punch has a lot of momentum & acceleration behind it, whereas lifting something does not.

    So going back to the average human scaling, and taking into consideration that an average human with Luffys body type would probably only be lifting about 50 kilos, 500 Newtons.
    2,000 / 500 = 4
    12.5bill / 4 = 3 billion Newtons.

    So Luffy should be able to lift around 300 million kilograms.
    (300 thousand tons)

  75. pimpmage April 24, 2015 at 6:21 pm -      #75

    So what would that punching force be equivalent to?

    If your calcs are correct, he could life 4.5 nimitz aircraft carriers. Or nearly the empire state building.

  76. Friendlysociopath April 24, 2015 at 7:26 pm -      #76

    I think Teams Tech and Psychic have a huge advantage in that they should both be able to find Kharn’s location quickly.

    Team Tech should be able to get into police broadband and the cell phone network- somehow I imagine a 10 foot tall space marine appearing in such a popular place is going to make the news rather quickly.

    Team Psychic has people who can read minds and telepathically survey the city; so they’ll be able to figure it out quickly as well.

    Not 100% sure how well Eragon’s life sense works; he should definitely have enough range and he can sense intent- I just don’t know if it would pick up Kharn or not thanks to Kharn’s blessing.

  77. pimpmage April 24, 2015 at 9:08 pm -      #77

    If psychic effects have no negative effects on kharn, I doubt they would be blocked. Thats not even going into EC yet. Besides, luffy has a similar thing too. He has about a half city range with it.

  78. Friendlysociopath April 24, 2015 at 10:11 pm -      #78

    If psychic effects have no negative effects on kharn, I doubt they would be blocked.

    Well I mean, he senses life and energy too so I didn’t think it would be blocked by the blessing in any case; I just don’t remember him using it to pinpoint targets without using the psychic part.

    How does Luffy’s work?

  79. Ordo11 April 24, 2015 at 10:11 pm -      #79

    True, true.

    Is there anyone Ramurtha could fight?

  80. Ordo11 April 24, 2015 at 10:12 pm -      #80

    True

    Is there anyone Ramurtha could fight?

  81. Ordo11 April 24, 2015 at 10:13 pm -      #81

    Gosh darn it fact pile, sorry for the triple post.

  82. pimpmage April 24, 2015 at 10:20 pm -      #82

    “How does Luffy’s work?”

    Its extremely simple, though not too much is known about it other than it is a feat of willpower. Here is the only case so far where the reader can actually see what is is like to use this power.

    img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150211011648/onepiece/images/a/a6/Usopp%27s_Kenbunshoku_View.png

    “Kenbunshoku Haki, also known as Mantra (心綱(マントラ) Mantora?, literally meaning “Mind Rope”) on Skypiea, is a form of Haki that allows the user to sense the presence of others, even if they are concealed from view or too far to see naturally.[2]”
    -One Piece Manga and Anime — Vol. 61 Chapter 597 (p. 12-15) and Episode 516, Rayleigh explains Haki.

  83. Friendlysociopath April 24, 2015 at 10:36 pm -      #83

    Is there anyone Ramurtha could fight?

    Considering literally everything we know about Ramurtha is powerscaling and speculation- no, probably not. The one solid thing we know it does is that it’s powerful enough to warp reality just by being there; that wasn’t even an active effort.

    Here is the only case so far where the reader can actually see what is is like to use this power.

    So every team but Demon has a way of finding Kharn quickly; unless Alucard or Inuyasha has something I don’t know about? (For Alucard that wouldn’t surprise me- he has a crapton of powers.)

  84. Commander Cross April 25, 2015 at 3:09 pm -      #84

    The following vids for Felli Loss aren’t quite as Epic on her side as the earlier showings for her comrades when we talk about Physical Prowess, but if nothing else, they’re still not too shabby.
    So Felli isn’t as Physically Super-Human/Physically Enhanced like her comrades are, some of those showings reveal her to be Low Super-Human/Enhanced Human if little else.

    I didn’t even find the main reason she’s here yet, those showings might just help if she’s in an otherwise tight situation within this matter.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmy_7luno3w

    (0: 30) of the second vid shows Felli kicking a Steel Fridge.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnpFery0vdE

    I’ll find more showings for some of the others later if I can, and we all know Gideon Wyeth is a Casual Super-Human/Enhanced Human, yes?

  85. Friendlysociopath April 25, 2015 at 5:46 pm -      #85

    I didn’t even find the main reason she’s here

    Because surveying the battlefield and allowing teamwide- communication is an advantage for any team. And team psychic in particular had no excuse to not have that ability in some shape or form.

    Also, let me see if I can find it- her little petals actually pack a punch when she wants; I swear she blasts straight through a a bomb-shelter without missing a beat.

  86. Friendlysociopath April 25, 2015 at 10:13 pm -      #86

    Ah, found it- the President traps Layfon in a bunker that he claims even contaminoids wouldn’t be able to destroy if they attacked.

    Felli gets upset at her brother and blasts straight through the shield doors before kicking his leg hard enough to break the bone backwards.

    In an earlier episode she also uses them to bring down a ceiling on a monster.

  87. LadyRamkin April 27, 2015 at 7:27 am -      #87

    “It doesn’t help that she has defense against life-energy draining and mind rape since she faces off against Metroids, Ing, and Phazon”

    Yeah but other M is canon in this match so a single shot to the back from a standard issue fire arm will completely disable her and render her unconscious.

    The Ing and phazon are both non canon, since some statements in other M rectons them out of existence

    The are also psychics present, so if any of them read her mind and show her a picture of Ridley (if they can) She will turn in to a crying child, lose her armour and be unable to do anything helpful for several minuets

    Her armour is now also maintained solely by her “will” so anything that can break her concentration will render her armour useless…. ish the game actually contradicts itself on this point.

    She also now has nigh suicidal dependence issues so there had better be no one present that she can latch onto to, to be her farther figure, because she will literally kill herself to follow their orders.

    On a plus note she can will ammo into existence from nothing. And in super metroid she has been shown to be able to consume ammo to regain all of her shields/health. So assuming she doesn’t have another mental break down she should prove fairly unkillable.

  88. Friendlysociopath April 27, 2015 at 8:32 am -      #88

    The are also psychics present, so if any of them read her mind and show her a picture of Ridley (if they can) She will turn in to a crying child, lose her armour and be unable to do anything helpful for several minuets

    I don’t think any of the psychics here operate like that; closest would be Hyoubu and he only can read memories from objects- not actual mind-reading.

  89. pimpmage April 27, 2015 at 11:56 am -      #89

    So which people would have willpower resistance to Luffy’s conqueror s haki?

  90. Envoy April 27, 2015 at 12:06 pm -      #90

    Kyousuke’s Hypno can fool machines.
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v03/c014/18.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v03/c015/3.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v03/c015/6.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v03/c015/7.html
    =
    Hyobu’s teleportation reaches beyond country lines.
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c208/3.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c208/7.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c210/13.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c211/10.html
    =
    …and even from low orbit to the surface!
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c162/2.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c162/10.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c161/3.html
    =
    His TK allows him to sync up with a satellite in orbit, which means they’re moving at hypersonic speeds.
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c161/13.html
    =
    His hypno can even be used to create inception-styled mind prisons.
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c232/8.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c232/9.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c233/10.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c233/16.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c234/13.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v30/c293/15.html
    =
    He’s not above using his hypno to mind control others into working for him either.
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c237/
    =
    In this verse you can teleport objects within each other.
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v30/c290/
    =
    You can even BFR people to other dimensions/space/alt universe/hemisphere/space.
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v30/c294/17.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v30/c294/18.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v30/c317/
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v17/c159/18.html
    =
    The Major’s TK also allows him to catch bullets.
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v11/c100/12.html
    www.mangahere.co/manga/zettai_karen_children/v11/c100/15.html

  91. Friendlysociopath April 27, 2015 at 12:17 pm -      #91

    So which people would have willpower resistance to Luffy’s conqueror s haki?

    The haki that only knocks out people with weak wills? Probably everyone 😀
    @Envoy- soooo many links

  92. LadyRamkin April 27, 2015 at 12:21 pm -      #92

    Other M Samus Lost her suit and all mental stability when confronted wither her recurring nemesis. Haki would probably take her out.

    I seriously really hate that game. It’s like if DC retconed their entire universe so that batman broke down and cried every time he fought the Joker.

  93. Kitten Lord April 27, 2015 at 12:27 pm -      #93

    Is “other M” usually canon? or just because of this thread? is it non canon by default?

  94. LadyRamkin April 27, 2015 at 12:37 pm -      #94

    Metroid other M is unfortunately canon. And it pretty much shits all over the entire franchise, if you would like to know why:
    tvtropes.org/pmwiki/lb_i.php?lb_id=13373815860B43920100&i_id=13373815860I43921400&p=1uk.ign.com/faqs/2004/final-fantasy-viii-plot-analysis-495769
    here’s a link

  95. Envoy April 27, 2015 at 12:46 pm -      #95

    “Yeah but other M is canon in this match so a single shot to the back from a standard issue fire arm will completely disable her and render her unconscious.”
    +
    Sure, that’s completely accurate information.
    =
    “The Ing and phazon are both non canon, since some statements in other M rectons them out of existence”
    +
    Dafuq?
    =
    “I don’t think any of the psychics here operate like that; closest would be Hyoubu and he only can read memories from objects- not actual mind-reading.”
    +
    Psychometry allows mind reading when used on humans, he totally would use a crippling weakness. He taunts people if they don’t have one.
    =
    Hyobu has the ability to take out near everyone here, and mind control at least half of the members of other teams to use as pawns. If that doesn’t work he could BFR them via teleportation in various ways too.
    +
    As for Kharn, Kyousuke and Tatsumaki could just rip up the cathedral and bring him to them, then just hit him with big things, or have the Major’s pawns bring him down.
    =
    EDIT:
    “@Envoy- soooo many links”
    +
    In-fucking-deed.
    +
    “Other M Samus Lost her suit and all mental stability when confronted wither her recurring nemesis. Haki would probably take her out.”
    +
    Haki is just high level intimidation, how the fuck does Ridley compare to a really big tiger’s growl? How are they equal? How?

  96. Kitten Lord April 27, 2015 at 12:48 pm -      #96

    @Lady

    “gulp” I am not that into the metroid series myself, never played any of the games so 18 pages is a bit much, mind giving me a “summary” in a paragraph of what that essay basically says please? 😀

  97. Friendlysociopath April 27, 2015 at 12:51 pm -      #97

    mind giving me a “summary” in a paragraph of what that essay basically says please?

    Samus goes from badass bounty hunter to whiny bitch who has to literally be told to use her weapons.
    I honestly didn’t consider Other M so if you want to ignore it feel free.

  98. pimpmage April 27, 2015 at 1:03 pm -      #98

    “Haki is just high level intimidation, how the fuck does Ridley compare to a really big tiger’s growl? How are they equal? How?”

    No, it’s nothing like a tiger growl. It can make people instantly just pass out due to fear. It’s not reality warping, more psychic attack. The manga hasn’t explained too much, but I can summarize. Someone with this haki basically forces his dominant will across an area of their choice. Building to city sized. If your will is weaker than that of the user, you either pass out right away, or become submissive and scared out of your mind.

  99. LadyRamkin April 27, 2015 at 1:26 pm -      #99

    “Sure, that’s completely accurate information.”

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrBybbi3b2U&t=2m30s

    Yeah, it is.
    – – –
    “Dafuq”

    The Metroid prime games are rendered non-canon my Other M, sucks don’t it
    – – –
    “Haki is just high level intimidation, how the fuck does Ridley compare to a really big tiger’s growl? How are they equal? How?”

    Where did you get a big tiger from????
    – – –
    “so if you want to ignore it feel free”

    I think i love you.

  100. LadyRamkin April 27, 2015 at 1:44 pm -      #100

    ““gulp” I am not that into the metroid series myself, never played any of the games so 18 pages is a bit much, mind giving me a “summary” in a paragraph of what that essay basically says please?”

    Shitting on Metroid #1: for having one of the most celebrated and storied endings in all of videogame history (the end of super metroid) and then taking a wild, ferocious dump on it. In the first 3 minutes of the game, no less.

    Samus says that, because her parents were killed when she was young, she saw Adam as a father figure. Shitting on Metroid #2: For saying that the Chozo we see with child Samus in a flashback in Zero Mission meant nothing to her, thus retroactively damaging that scene. No, that guy wasn’t a father to her. Nor were any of the other Chozo who raised her, gifted her with her magitek powered armor, and trained her into a badass warrior. No, none of them were a father to her.

    Shitting on Metroid #3: for pretending that Metroid Prime: Corruption didn’t happen, where she went on missions for the GF directly, under the command of an Aurora Unit and Admiral Dane

    Shitting on Metroid #4: for turning Metroid: Fusion’s “Any objections, Lady?” from being an endearing phrase signifying the trust in their relationship into verbal abuse intended to establish and enforce control.

    Turning Ridley into a pokemon

    Shitting on Metroid #5: for directly contradicting several games in the series, all so that Samus can be made a weaker character for it.

    Shitting on Metroid #6: for taking every appearance of Ridley and letting us know that Samus is secretly crying in her suit every time she sees him. By all rights, I should count this 8 times (it taints Fusion as well), but I’ll keep it at just one. I really don’t need to pad out the count.

    Shitting on Metroid #7: for turning the main antagonists of the Prime trilogy, as well as a strong force in Zero Mission, into nothing more than mindless drones when Ridley isn’t present. Oh, and if Ridley is needed… how do these mindless drones keep rebuilding/resurrecting him?

    Shitting on Metroid:
    #8: For having every Metroid enemy and villain outdone by a guy with a regulation GF pistol. They all tried their best to take out Samus, but what it really took was a Mary Sue wielding an ice gun.

    #9: For de-protagonizing the main character of the series, turning her from a badass bounty hunter into a fan-service girl in a skin-tight outfit who sits on the sidelines (when she isn’t being forcibly benched) and doesn’t actually accomplish anything during the story.

    #10: For completely annihilating the very idea of Adam Malkovich as presented in Fusion, reducing him from a stolid, heroic figure into an abusive, scene-stealing Mary Sue who literally walks off with the final level of the game.

    #11: For making it hard to play Fusion again without thinking of Samus and Adam’s reunion at the end as the horrific reuniting of an abuse victim with her abuser.

    Shitting on Metroid #12: for turning Nightmare from Fusion into a shitty attempt to shoehorn more “babies” into this game.

    Shitting on Metroid #13: For ruining the final boss of Metroid II; even better, doing so served absolutely no purpose in this story. Thus proving that no member of the Metroid franchise escapes Other M with its dignity intact.

    Shitting on Metroid #14: For further rewriting parts of Super Metroid to fit with the new vision of Samus.

    Shitting on Metroid #15: Yes, Metroid: Other M has the dubious distinction of actually shitting on itself. I’m not even sure how that’s possible, and yet here we are. The story has retconned its own gameplay, taking a scene where Samus was precise and surgical (as I played it because I’m not a fucking moron) and pretending that it didn’t happen that way.
    – – –
    I freely admit that I stole all of that.

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