Master Chief and Ironman Vs Naruto and Ichigo

Master Chief and Ironman Vs Naruto and Ichigo

Suggested by The Unkown Soldier

Master Chief (Halo) & Ironman (Marvel) will go up against  Naruto (Naruto) & Ichigo (Bleach).

Rules:

Master Chief have all his Weapons & Gadgets + have his Better Armor in the Series.

Tony is in his Bleeding Edge Armor & can Switch to his Other Suits like his Hulkbuster and Throbuster if he needs too.

Naruto & Ichigo are Pre Time Skip to Post Time Selfs ( If You Wanted too XP ) = Master Chief & Tony can see Ichigo.

Round 1 = Random Encounter.

Round 2 = Master Chief & Tony have 3 to 4 days of Prep Time.

Who Wins & Why?

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170 Comments on "Master Chief and Ironman Vs Naruto and Ichigo"

  1. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 12:11 am -      #1

    I don’t recall naruto ever being a bullet timer. Though would probably fend of any small weapons fire easily with chakra. Though, match says he has all weapons… Commander Cross! Now is your chance! Hit them with your scarab gun!

  2. Amm0vamp1r3 April 22, 2015 at 12:11 am -      #2

    Lol why is chief here? He gets blitzed to shit. Ironman is the only problem

  3. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 12:13 am -      #3

    “Lol why is chief here? He gets blitzed to shit. Ironman is the only problem”

    Naruto is not fast enough to blitz anyone… I know next to nothing about ichigo though. Chief would have every single gadget though. Including active camo… etc.

  4. Amm0vamp1r3 April 22, 2015 at 12:17 am -      #4

    Naruto doesn’t need to blitz he has continent busting bijuu bombs and has tanked an attack that cut the moon in half from what I’ve heard
    And
    Ichigo well Ichigo when he was fighting Aizen was cutting small mountain or large hills Into chunks and when he was fighting byakuya was leaving multiple after images

    As for naruto not being able to blitz I’m pretty sure he can the naruto ninja were pretty fast even pre time skip after that they were absurdly so. Not like light speed or anything but I’ve seen them said to be atleast super sonic

  5. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 12:20 am -      #5

    @Pimpmage
    “I don’t recall naruto ever being a bullet timer.”

    Either you know a lot more than everyone else regarding Naruto, or you know a lot less.
    Because plenty of people have been calling him Super-Hyper sonic lately.

    “Though would probably fend of any small weapons fire easily with chakra.”

    Just small weapon fire?
    Considering he’s moon busting, i’d say he can do a lot more than that.

    I’m going to go ahead and assume you know a lot less.

  6. sadot06 April 22, 2015 at 12:25 am -      #6

    “Naruto is not fast enough to blitz anyone…”

    Have you not read any Naruto matches?


    Anyway Tony is the only real threat here, and only to pre-time skip Naruto and pre Kurama mode. Ichigo will blitz and decapitate Master Chief in any scenario. Current Naruto has moon level durability. I don’t see a way for Tony to devise a plan to not die. Even if he trapped Naruto in some kind of Hulk proof chamber, current Naruto can teleport.

  7. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 12:26 am -      #7

    “I’m going to go ahead and assume you know a lot less.”

    I am sorry, both you and amm0 didn’t read the match description. Both ichigo and naruto are pre time skip. Though there was two time skips in naruto…
    edit:
    It seems sadot06 didnt read the match description either..

  8. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 12:35 am -      #8

    Current Naruto vs Ironman is actually fair game.
    Pre Skip Naruto vs Ironman is just… Why would you do that OP? o.o
    I would have never even considered that. It went from being pretty fair to roflstomp.

    Here’s Ironman speed feats:

    Mach 8.7
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11111/111118857/3118025-comic+scan+74.jpg

    Microsecond reaction times and combat speed
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11111/111118857/3192648-comic+scan+150.jpg

    Flew to the sun & back with Sentry (FTL feat)
    i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff425/superbot400/Iron%20Man/Imagebot/K95P7.jpg

  9. sadot06 April 22, 2015 at 12:39 am -      #9

    “It seems sadot06 didnt read the match description either..”

    “Naruto & Ichigo are Pre Time Skip to Post Time Selfs”

    I certainly did. Hence why I mentioned both pre and post time skip Naruto in my post. And FYI there were actually a total of 3 timeskips in Naruto. The first was Shippuden, the second was for the events of The Last Naruto The Movie, and the 3rd was after Naruto became the Hokage.

  10. Amm0vamp1r3 April 22, 2015 at 12:39 am -      #10

    It says pre time skip to post time selfs

    I read the OP I just saw this as they have all their feats

  11. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 12:40 am -      #11

    Tanks multiple nukes
    media.animevice.com/uploads/0/6253/241527-1275658_iron_man_31_oroboros_dcp_032_super_super.jpg

    Spiderman, the dude that held up a skyscrapper, hurt his hand punching Ironman
    i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff425/superbot400/Iron%20Man/Imagebot/fo4HU.jpg

    His suits reaction time looks like it goes down to a picosecond (1,000,000,000,000th of a second)
    i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff425/superbot400/Iron%20Man/Imagebot/fNLQv.jpg

  12. erickyboo April 22, 2015 at 12:40 am -      #12

    What’s pre-time skips?

    Not sure that the match was matched too well.

  13. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 12:41 am -      #13

    “Either you know a lot more than everyone else regarding Naruto, or you know a lot less.
    Because plenty of people have been calling him Super-Hyper sonic lately.”

    Am I actually missing something here? I stopped reading the manga during the god tree part. That story went to shit really fast.
    edit:
    wait… naruto can do that flash step thing his father could do right?

  14. Rookie April 22, 2015 at 12:43 am -      #14

    @erickyboo

    “What’s pre-time skips?”

    AFAIK it’s pre-first battle with Sasuke and pre-final getsuga Ichigo.

    @pimpmage

    “I stopped reading the manga during the god tree part. That story went to shit really fast.”

    Try to read Feng Shen Ji someday. Story is good. Or Ravages Of Time, in terms of story it’s one of the best mangas.

    “wait… naruto can do that flash step thing his father could do right?”

    Not pre-time skip.
    And his father was not fast, he actually just teleported around.

  15. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 12:45 am -      #15

    Ironmans track record with the Hulks:

    Savage Hulk (knocked him out)
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118857/3118021-comic+scan+20.jpg

    She Hulk (knocked her out)
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118857/3192679-comic+scan+519.jpg

    Red Hulk (knocked him out)
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118857/3118026-comic+scan+48.jpg

    None of those were planet busting AFAIK, but they certainly weren’t far off.

  16. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 12:52 am -      #16

    I have read the first few chapters of feng shen, the art was extremely good. I gotta pick it back up someday, till then, its gonna wait in my bookmarks. Same with ravages of time.

  17. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 1:03 am -      #17

    One of his oldest armors fire a million lightning rounds per minute. (0.00006 seconds per round)
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111118857/3260345-comic+scan+917.jpg

    His new suits have a Spider Sense like precog
    www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3260354

  18. Limbo Lowk April 22, 2015 at 1:51 am -      #18

    This seems a little skewed. Only naruto on Chief level is kid.
    ===
    “Try to read Feng Shen Ji someday. Story is good.”

    Cept for Gou mouth. Maybe I just seen crappy translation and normally I can handle it but his trash talk is just sad.
    ===
    Current Naruto vs Ironman is actually fair game. Meanwhile Chief get stuff with the guy, that I’m pretty sure, is strong enough to literally smack him around without even getting into striking distance.

  19. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 3:56 am -      #19

    “His suits reaction time looks like it goes down to a picosecond (1,000,000,000,000th of a second)”

    Wut…. Isn’t that ridiculously fast? Like Ludicrous Speed fast and fast enough to make you go to plaid?

    Light speed repulsors.

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118857/4228056-2267150898-Comic.jpg

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11111/111118857/4228054-2683134667-repul.jpg

  20. Shgon Dunstan April 22, 2015 at 8:27 am -      #20

    @pimpmage
    “I don’t recall naruto ever being a bullet timer.”

    This isn’t “random genin” this is “Part one Naruto”.

    Let’s see, simplest way…

    Haku attacking… I don’t even want to try to count how many times, and as a falling drop of water barely even changes shape, much less hits the ground.

    www.mangapanda.com/93-30-10/naruto/chapter-25.html

    www.mangapanda.com/93-30-11/naruto/chapter-25.html

    Yet fast forward to when Naruto starts pulling on Kurama, and…

    www.mangapanda.com/93-33-14/naruto/chapter-28.html

    www.mangapanda.com/93-33-15/naruto/chapter-28.html

    www.mangapanda.com/93-33-16/naruto/chapter-28.html

    That happens.

    Don’t have a clac for that feat, but it’s sure as hell a lot more then “bullet”, and it’s not even his One Tail Cloak.

    But yeah, Part One Naruto isn’t beating comic Ironman. 😕

  21. Friendlysociopath April 22, 2015 at 8:46 am -      #21

    So… this is Iron Man vs Naruto and Ichigo?

  22. Rookie April 22, 2015 at 8:53 am -      #22

    @Friendlysociopath

    “So… this is Iron Man vs Naruto and Ichigo?”

    Yep.

  23. Commander Cross April 22, 2015 at 10:45 am -      #23

    If we can accept all the Mindless Power Boosts with no consequences the Shinobi War Arc provides, we will definitely accept the Scarab Guns for a fight like this.

    Now it’s simply a matter of time for IF Chief Man can hit either Power Six fighter here before one of them likely skewers Chief Man if we’re talking current incarnations.
    He just needs to buy 616 Iron Man some time and if he lasts long enough for Iron Man to nail one of the two fighters to the wall, they could do Double-Teaming on the Power Six Champion left over.

    Easier said than done but it could work.

  24. Jake_Uzumaki April 22, 2015 at 11:22 am -      #24

    “And FYI there were actually a total of 3 timeskips in Naruto.”

    Because I was curious how this would affect that part of the OP I messaged Admin about it, he said go default to the current incarnation, so Naruto as of the most recent time skip.

  25. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 11:29 am -      #25

    I just realized… Iron man with prep could help mc ridiculously. With mc having all weapons possible, He could replicate scarab gun tech. Maybe even upgrade mc gear to be on par with iron man suits. Heck. Mc could just borrow a suit from iron man.

  26. Shgon Dunstan April 22, 2015 at 11:33 am -      #26

    “so Naruto as of the most recent time skip.”

    Which… IS current Naruto.

  27. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 11:36 am -      #27

    No, current is post movie. Just after the most recent timeskip for him is pre war arc.

  28. Shgon Dunstan April 22, 2015 at 11:40 am -      #28

    “No, current is post movie. Just after the most recent timeskip for him is pre war arc.”

    The last time skip in Naruto happened in the very last chapter. Jumping all that way from the end of the war to him becoming Hokage.

    As such, it would ether be End-Of-War-Naruto, or The-Last-Naruto, as the movie was set in the meddle of said time skip.

  29. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 11:46 am -      #29

    Alright, didn’t know about that one. Never finished the series. Match details state pre time skip of some sort. The grammar makes it really confusing.

  30. Friendlysociopath April 22, 2015 at 11:59 am -      #30

    I just realized… Iron man with prep could help mc ridiculously.

    Sweet, MC in an Iron Man should should be awesome- do they just boost your own strength or is it a set thing?

  31. Jake_Uzumaki April 22, 2015 at 12:03 pm -      #31

    @Pimpmage
    which is why I included a quote of “Pre Time Skip to Post Time Selfs” in my asking about it. The full response I got was “Well…

    Unless the OP comes in and clarifies by the 50th comment, we normally go by the current incarnation of the character.

    Hope this helps.”

    So take that how you will I suppose. I don’t recall seeing Unknown Soldier anywhere before. I suppose we could always ask the match poster (Rookie in this case) for clarification of incarnations if worst comes to worst.

    Really the only difference is degree of how useful MC may or may not be. As of the Last (takes place after a two year time skip and before a 10 year one) or EoS and most likely even End of the War Arc too MC is basically useless unless he has most of the UNSC fleet with him in orbit.
    End of Part 1 Naruto vs MC is arguably a fair fight that leans slightly towards the supersonic one kid army with an attack that can rip through metal like tissue paper. Though if it is part one we have the potential issue of MC killing Naruto but unleashing a gigaton-low terraton spamming death fox of death on himself and Iron Man.

    Actually technically Boruto: Naruto the Movie seems to take place a few months to a year after the epilogue Boruto is an academy graduate in the movie but is still in the academy in the Epilogue chapter…so unless the Epilogue chapter takes place like a day before the graduation there’s a small time skip there possibly.

    Wait…how does 3-4 days work for this? Should we just assume the max 4 days or..what?

    Also I just want to clarify…would this be current Tony but with the no longer active Bleeding Edge or would it be Tony circa using Bleeding Edge?

  32. Friendlysociopath April 22, 2015 at 12:13 pm -      #32

    I suppose we could always ask the match poster (Rookie in this case) for clarification of incarnations if worst comes to worst.

    If Rookie works in any way like I did, he just copies the scenario he was given by the suggestion.

    Wait…how does 3-4 days work for this? Should we just assume the max 4 days or..what?

    Unless we have some sort of hard knowledge like “It will take 2 days to alter the armor so MC can use it” it really doesn’t matter beyond- “OK, Tony has prep time”.

  33. Jake_Uzumaki April 22, 2015 at 12:28 pm -      #33

    True but I think match posters are able to specify if its needed and the suggestor hasn’t shown up by 50 posts.

    Didn’t mean to imply it meant anything just curious how that was supposed to work.
    I’m more curious how we’re supposed to interpret Tony’s incarnation since Bleeding Edge was rendered permanently inactive.

  34. Shgon Dunstan April 22, 2015 at 12:41 pm -      #34

    To bad Sasuke isn’t here. It would be fun to watch Tony go through all the work of prepping his armor… Only for Sasuke to use the tech summoning ability of his eye to take it right off his body mid fight. 😆

  35. Friendlysociopath April 22, 2015 at 12:50 pm -      #35

    Only for Sasuke to use the tech summoning ability of his eye to take it right off his body mid fight.

    This I have to see to believe

  36. Jake_Uzumaki April 22, 2015 at 1:16 pm -      #36

    wait tech summoning? did I miss something in the Hiden series?
    I know they got giant airships capable of reaching the point where water boils at room temperature, a powder that causes massive explosions on contact with water and some other crazy shit but I haven’t gotten through all of them yet.

  37. Shgon Dunstan April 22, 2015 at 1:35 pm -      #37

    “wait tech summoning?”

    The Asura Path power. The ability to summon tech, even from other dimensions, to augment their body with, even to the point of transforming their body into it.

    Basically, remember Pain’s robot body? Sasuke’s eye lets him do that. Though we’ve never seen him do it.

  38. Jake_Uzumaki April 22, 2015 at 1:45 pm -      #38

    wouldn’t getting Tony’s armor off be more easily achieved through the Harem Jutsu?

  39. Friendlysociopath April 22, 2015 at 2:01 pm -      #39

    I haven’t actually seen Ichigo show up that much since I’ve been here- which I thought was odd considering his anime’s status as being in the Holy Shonen Trinity.

    What all can endgame Ichigo do?

  40. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 2:40 pm -      #40

    I’ve read everywhere that bleach is the worst of the three. And I wasn’t even willing to finish reading the second best manga. Sorry bud.

  41. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 3:36 pm -      #41

    “To bad Sasuke isn’t here. It would be fun to watch Tony go through all the WORK of prepping his armor… Only for Sasuke to use the tech summoning ability of his eye to take it right off his body mid fight.”

    How fast is Sasuke again…?
    Caus Picosecond reaction time, near FTL flight, Microsecond combat speed at a low end.
    Beams which move at light speed, which can be fired every 0.00006 seconds?
    Spiderman precog built into his suit?
    I highly doubt any incarnation of Sasuke can deal with that tbh.

  42. Jake_Uzumaki April 22, 2015 at 4:43 pm -      #42

    Well speed wise he doesn’t stack up but he was capable of going toe to toe with a holding back end game Naruto, plus having gravity manipulation that he likes to spam. I’ve seen people argue that he’s just as strong as powerful as Naruto but not really sure about that.

  43. Jake_Uzumaki April 22, 2015 at 4:44 pm -      #43

    As to how powerful Ichigo is………….significiantly less so than Naruto, I think he’s large building-city busting right now but I could be wrong.

  44. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 5:07 pm -      #44

    “As to how powerful Ichigo is………….significiantly less so than Naruto, I think he’s large building-city busting right now but I could be wrong.”

    He’s busted a Mountain. (Or maybe he shrugged off a mountain busting attack. Impressive either way)

    And in the last arc, their sword hits were casually causing craters & cracks which spanned for miles.

    And he deflected about 10,000 swords simultaneously flying at his direction, with his own sword.
    I think that puts his reflex & combat speed higher than Narutos.
    And this one done very early on in the manga.

    A bit further down, he was casually dodging projectiles which moved the length of cities in a couple of seconds.
    That’s something like 1,000,000 m/s

  45. Jake_Uzumaki April 22, 2015 at 5:10 pm -      #45

    But wasn’t that with specific set of powers he had….then lost….and then he had and lost more powers so he had to get his new swords forged and all so his current powers are completely different from any of the ones he’s had in the past which is why a lot of recent Ichigo debates have kind of just been waiting to see what the hell he’s actually capable of?

  46. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 5:26 pm -      #46

    “But wasn’t that with specific set of powers he had….then lost….and then he had and lost more powers so he had to get his new swords forged and all so his current powers are completely different ”

    Yea i have trouble keeping track. I just read bits & pieces of it. Mostly the big fights.

    He has both his Soul Reaper & Hollow powers right now though.
    His Bankai & Shikai changed appearance when he learnt Fullbring, but i don’t know if he lost any powers because of that…

    His current form, when he fought Aizen, was called the most powerful by far.

    Btw none of the Bleach movies are canon right?
    Caus in the fourth(?) one, where he goes to hell, he makes an explosion that looks multi-nuke level at the very least.
    And he was going to level all of hell, which was country-continent size i think.

  47. Jake_Uzumaki April 22, 2015 at 5:33 pm -      #47

    I don’t really know how it works, I think he lost his fullbring powers or something can’t remember.
    The biggest thing I remember from recently off the top of my head was cutting through the Soul King’s palace which is a big floating building..

    As far as I know none of the Bleach movies are canon. Actually I think Naruto is the only one of the HST that has any canon movies (one with one more on the way)

  48. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 5:45 pm -      #48

    “Also I just want to clarify…would this be current Tony but with the no longer active Bleeding Edge or would it be Tony circa using Bleeding Edge?”

    Well, it says he can switch armors, so I’m assuming all armor he’s made should be fair game…?
    =
    IIRC this armor is a Hulkbuster.

    www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/preview/0/0/1/ORIGSINTH2014001-int2-3-d7e01.jpg

    Don’t know exactly what “enough force to power a continent” would tranlate to in terms of destructive capacity, but it sounds like it’d be a lot.
    =
    Could’ve taken out Crimson Dynamo in milliseconds, waits just to let him finish his sentence.

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118857/3192648-comic+scan+150.jpg
    =
    Has the equivalent of a man made star in his chest.

    i.imgur.com/kKRVUvU.jpg
    =
    Destroys a man made island.

    img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/Ironboy/iron%20man/IronManv1127-09.jpg~original

    img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/Ironboy/iron%20man/IronManv1127-10.jpg~original

  49. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 6:12 pm -      #49

    “Don’t know exactly what “enough force to power a continent” would tranlate to in terms of destructive capacity, but it sounds like it’d be a lot.”

    It actually makes no sense. “Forces” don’t power anything.
    Power means Joules/Secs, which is Energy over Time. Force has nothing to do with it.
    It’s comic book mumbo jumbo.

    “Destroys a man made island.”

    Looks pretty small tbh, like a big cargo ship.
    Is this his best destructive feat? or does he have some nuke level stuff?

  50. Jake_Uzumaki April 22, 2015 at 6:20 pm -      #50

    That was the newest version of the Hulkbuster.

    The star reactor has been replaced with upgrades several times now. not sure how much more powerful than it the current is though.

    Naruto and him are around equal in muscle, Ironman has speed edge, Naruto has a firepower edge. And both can pull forth an army of a few thousand copies.
    The deciding factor might be Ichigo’s presence.

    And I forgot Naruto can amp Ichigo up several levels (possibly continental) so this might prove enough of an edge

  51. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 6:25 pm -      #51

    We should probably keep in mind Ironman has flight, which reaches Light speeds if given enough time to accelerate.
    Naruto & Ichigo would need to speedblits him to keep him on the ground.

    I’m gunna go over Ichigos incarnations & powers and see what he’d currently have.
    If he’s still mountain busting, that’s easily several nukes (without the Naruto amp), and it should take care of Stark.

    I’ll also do a quick calc on his 2 reflex feats.

    This is of course assuming we’re using composite Naruto & Ichigo, which OP still hasn’t agreed to AFAIK.

    With team 1 getting prep time, i’m not sure if team 2 can ever pull off a victory.

  52. Jake_Uzumaki April 22, 2015 at 6:38 pm -      #52

    prep is only round 2 though so seems like this could come to a draw.

    as to hitting him, considering Naruto should be able to lifewipe since he’s comparable to Toneri in firepower (their mid tier attacks are even and Naruto was trying to keep his eyes intact and still managing to overwhelm him.) Naruto may not need to be accurate…

    I asked Admin about the OP’s wording and he said go with current if not specified by post 50 (with Naruto at least)

  53. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 7:21 pm -      #53

    “It actually makes no sense. “Forces” don’t power anything.
    Power means Joules/Secs, which is Energy over Time. Force has nothing to do with it.
    It’s comic book mumbo jumbo.”

    Didn’t think so either, figured someone might be able to make sense of it, guess not.
    =
    “Looks pretty small tbh, like a big cargo ship.”

    Well, it’s called an island, so I’d imagine it’s much larger than a cargo ship.
    =
    “Is this his best destructive feat? or does he have some nuke level stuff?”

    He’s destroyed a mountain before, but that was with help, and I think during Secret Wars. Besides that, there’s that horribly worded scan I posted earlier. Can’t think of too many other destructive feats.
    =
    Found this:

    i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff425/superbot400/Iron%20Man/Imagebot/Strength/AvengersAnnual16-25.jpg~original

    Thor apparently couldn’t even dent this:

    www.mynetimages.com/347f45b6.jpg
    =
    Survives being near a black hole apparently.

    smg.photobucket.com/user/Ironboy/media/iron%20man/IM_26_DCP_029.jpg.html

    smg.photobucket.com/user/Ironboy/media/iron%20man/IM_26_DCP_030.jpg.html
    =
    Could absorbing energy help IM here? Here he absorbs Thor’s lightning bolt.

    smg.photobucket.com/user/Ironboy/media/Avengers20220-15.jpg.html
    =
    @Rag Supes vs Flash speed wise, who is faster travel speed wise and reaction time wise? Me and my friend are debating it right now, I’m saying their equal, he’s saying Flash by leaps and bounds, thoughts?

  54. Amm0vamp1r3 April 22, 2015 at 7:36 pm -      #54

    @CH1

    Flash is much faster than superman in all respects from what I’ve seen

  55. Alpha or Omega April 22, 2015 at 7:37 pm -      #55

    That’s not a picture of Iron man. That’s a picture of War Machine.
    Is Master Chief suppose to be a predator.
    /
    Anyway, Iron man had some program in his left hand that allowed him to get out of some mess Captain America was in when he broke the time gem.
    Combine this with Thor-Buster and Space Armor in preptime to get time jumping, echanted, mach 10 speed, beyond nuke tanking, with warp speed capabilities. Should be called Anime Buster just in case.
    Not saying Ironman wins though.
    Also, in preptime, John 117 gets one too.

  56. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 8:00 pm -      #56

    Something to note,
    Energy durability & Blunt Force durability shouldn’t really be considered the same thing.

    Naruto has a crazy amount of energy projection, and Ichigo has some really powerful physical hits.
    Ironman’s going to need plenty of both kinds.

    @CH1
    ” Supes vs Flash speed wise, who is faster travel speed wise and reaction time wise? ”

    Fairly early on during the New52 Flash had his nuclear bomb feat, where he saved a few hundred-thousand people before the nuclear radiation reached them.
    If the radiation was travelling at even a fraction of the speed of light, Flash would be high end billions – trillions of times FTL.
    And considering he had the time to talk to himself, make a bunch of turns, and pick people up one at a time, i’d say his Reaction Time is in line with that.

    Superman traveled to the other end of a galaxy, which also happens to be high end billion – trillions of times FTL.
    However he was likely traveling in a generally straight line, without any sharp turnings or need to move any of his individual muscles.
    Therefor there’s no proof that his RT keeps up. And judging by his New52 showings, i’m going to go ahead and say his RT is WAY worse.

    Darkseid had a theory during one of the pre-flashpoint comics, where he said Superman’s superflight is actually caused by bending space/time around him, almost turning himself into a wormhole.
    It’s why he never uses it on a planet, and it’s why he can’t generally fight at trillions of times FTL.

    Pre-flashpoint Superman did however still have nanosecond Reaction Times that could keep up with flash during fights and etc.
    But then again… Pre-flashpoint Flash could also practically teleport to any point in time/space that he wanted.

    Pre-Crises Superman was fast enough to almost collapse the multiverse, and needed to be stopped by the Spectre.

    So there’s all the information to make an educated guess for yourself.
    imo, it goes something like this:

    Precrises-
    Supes >>>>>> Flash in Movement Speed.
    Flash > Supes in Combat Speed & RT.

    Preflashpoint-
    Supes = Flash in Movement Speed.
    Flash > Supes in RT & Combat by a slight amount.
    Assuming Flash doesn’t tap into Speed Force hax. With it he basically becomes omniscient.

    New52-
    Supes = Flash in Movement Speed.
    Flash >>>>>>>>>>>> Supes in RT & Combat.

    In all 3 of these incarnations, if we take Darkseids theory to be correct (which honestly makes a lot of sense), Superman can never fight or think as fast as he can fly.
    Nor can he ever use that flight while on Earth.
    So when i say “movement speed”, it’s under the impression Clark’s going all out in space.

  57. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 8:21 pm -      #57

    @Rag Yea, that’s more or less what I thought it’d be, but any scans to prove it? Cus I’ve gone through this with him and he just references this:

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/121326/3725326-flash-vs-superman.jpg

    and basically just says GG.

    Which, while it shows he’s faster, has Supes not trying to catch up afterwards, and is only movement speed and not RT or combat speed.
    =
    “Ironman’s going to need plenty of both kinds.”

    Don’t think I’ve seen IM tank continent spamming energy based attacks, but we’ve seen his armors throwdown with the likes of Hulk and Thor(granted, he’s always lost those, but it’s worth mentioning). Although, slashing vs blunt trauma is completely different, right?

    Also, how reliable is Tony? For example, if he were to say that a character was capable of tossing a building in the air like a ball, should we take his word as reliable? Even if we’ve seen other incarnations not be able to do so, or maybe even struggle doing something similar?

  58. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 8:29 pm -      #58

    “Don’t think I’ve seen IM tank continent spamming energy based attacks,”

    Those blasts were most definitely not continent sized…. more like city sized. And by city, I mean a large city. Like seattle.

  59. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 8:34 pm -      #59

    “Those blasts were most definitely not continent sized…. more like city sized. And by city, I mean a large city. Like seattle.”

    What weren’t? Have to look for it, but Madara summoned meteors that were as large as the continent and Naruto destroyed those.

  60. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 8:35 pm -      #60

    My bad, they were country sized. Still, haven’t seen IM tank energy based attacks on that large a scale.

    i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q772/Shgon-Dunstan/RJj6sAC_zps29f0ec74.jpg~original

  61. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 8:47 pm -      #61

    Honestly, narutoverse’s earth is extremely tiny. You can clearly see mountain heights from space. Saying country size is not saying much seeing as a naruto country could be around a quarter to half the size of washington state based on portrayed mountain sizes vs a relief map of the cascade mountain range.

  62. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 9:08 pm -      #62

    @CH1
    “Cus I’ve gone through this with him and he just references this:”

    That’s on Earth.
    Clark can’t control the speed force the way Flash can. He can’t risk moving that fast with buildings & people around.
    And once again, i need to bring up Darkseids theory, Clark can only go all out in space, since he bends space/time around him when he flys.

    “, but any scans to prove it? ”

    For New52 shit:

    I’m guessing you can get your hands on the 2 New52 movement feats? (Galaxy & Nuke ones)
    They basically put both characters on the same playing field movement speed wise. (giving Flash the big edge on reaction and combat speed)

    Further proof of them having similar movement speed in New52 is Kara tackling the shit out of him:
    imageserver.moviepilot.com/flash-and-supergirl-what-do-the-flash-and-supergirl-have-in-common.jpeg?width=620&height=953
    She bullrushed him a second time later in this issue.

    For Preflashpoint shit:

    Here’s further proof for the space & time bending around supes when he flies trillions of times ftl
    i.imgur.com/YkA2ZZ4.jpg
    Which makes it very dangerous for him to do so nearby a planet.

    During infinite crises (his fight with Superboy prime to be more specific) they flew from Earth to Krypton in a matter of minutes.
    Krypton is 27.1 lightyears away from Earth.
    That’s billions-trillions of times FTL again.
    And mind you, both characters were trying to beat the shit out of each other during this “trip”

    Meanwhile, Flash hasn’t ever demonstrated the ability of moving more than 10-100 times (if that) FTL during preflashpoint.
    Granted it’s because he’s always on Earth and never finds the need to go faster, but Superman feat > Flash feat nonetheless.

    For reaction times:
    i.imgur.com/7ZOndfK.jpg
    i.imgur.com/t0f0z45.jpg
    He very clearly has FTL Reaction Time.

    And he bullrushed Flash too
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/58664/1725074-superman709_012.jpg

    Note most of this is irrelevant if Flash taps into the speed force, becoming omniscient.

  63. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 9:15 pm -      #63

    @CH1
    Furthermore

    He wasn’t struggling to match Flashes RT here
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/54191/2374117-1725091_superman709_016.jpg

    He beats Joy Garrick Flash here
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/54191/2374124-jay1wz3.jpg

    As for Pre-crises Superman:
    This is really the only thing i need to post
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/43369/1326895-sasupesacrossmultiverse.jpg
    He was fast enough to leave the universe. Something Flash has never demonstrated.

  64. Jake_Uzumaki April 22, 2015 at 9:19 pm -      #64

    @Pimpmage
    actually its about the same size as ours, its recently been revealed that there are continents on the other side with multiple countries in them (Shikamaru Hiden has most of its story set in a Samurai run nation on a continent on the other side of the Earth)
    and in The Last it seems to be the same size as ours as does the moon compared to our moon.

  65. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 9:34 pm -      #65

    Going back to the debate,

    Ichigo raised his hand to deflect a hit from Aizen.
    When Aizens sword & Ichigos hand collided, it vaporized a nearby mountain.
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111139434/4187267-3200169956-07.jp.jpg
    This is also Ichigos weakest form.

  66. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 9:34 pm -      #66

    “actually its about the same size as ours”

    Mountain ridges are extremely visible from orbit says otherwise. You can see individual ridges against the backdrop of space.

    ” its recently been revealed that there are continents on the other side with multiple countries in them ”

    That does not really matter though. there may be continents and countries, but they are smaller than our earth counterparts.

    ” size as ours as does the moon compared to our moon.”

    How do you know this to be true? Also, even if it is, its not proof enough to say their earth is the exact same as ours.

  67. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 9:34 pm -      #67

    “Honestly, narutoverse’s earth is extremely tiny. You can clearly see mountain heights from space”

    Based off of what?
    =
    “You can clearly see mountain heights from space. ”

    For all you know those mountains could be much larger than anything on we have IRL.
    =
    “Saying country size is not saying much seeing as a naruto country could be around a quarter to half the size of washington state based on portrayed mountain sizes vs a relief map of the cascade mountain range.”

    Using that logic, saying mountain, city, country, continent, planet, etc busting is pointless since they could be much smaller than anything we know of(i.e. anyone can say planet busting is pointless since we don’t know the size of the planet and it could be the size of a large building, etc).
    =
    “I’m guessing you can get your hands on the 2 New52 movement feats? (Galaxy & Nuke ones)”

    Yea, although, to be honest, I still have issues with using that galaxy feat(due to both Kara and Kal being amped by RLR and DDV).
    =
    “And he bullrushed Flash too”

    Honestly, this more than anything is what’ll convince him. Especially seeing as if I posted any of those other ones he’d just reference that scan again…
    =
    So, that black hole feat I posted, IM got whiplashed 3 miles out afterwards.

    So, most of the energy tanking feats I’ve found for IM are simply just nukes, so nowhere near the level of Naruto’s country level
    =
    So, thoughts on IM’s reliability?

  68. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 9:36 pm -      #68

    There’s this attack which is specifically mentioned as being able to destroy the country,
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111139434/4187107-6009632612-07.jp.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111139434/4187108-1556814151-08.jp.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111139434/4187109-7843072103-09.jp.jpg

    Ichigo tanks the full focus of it,
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111139434/4187118-7720672682-16.jp.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111139434/4187120-0408948483-18.jp.jpg

  69. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 9:38 pm -      #69

    “Mountain ridges are extremely visible from orbit says otherwise. You can see individual ridges against the backdrop of space.”

    Proof mountain ranges aren’t incredibly large?
    =
    “That does not really matter though. there may be continents and countries, but they are smaller than our earth counterparts.”

    Proof?
    =
    ” Also, even if it is, its not proof enough to say their earth is the exact same as ours.”

    And saying you can see mountain ranges being visible from space isn’t enough proof to say that the planet is small.

  70. TheSorrow April 22, 2015 at 9:48 pm -      #70

    My view on the planet size is, unless there are hard numbers to prove it one way or another, we assume that Naruto’s planet is identical to our own. That includes the Moon as well. Otherwise will just be sitting here speculating about it all day long.

  71. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 9:54 pm -      #71

    This dudes Bankai cut the entire town in half, in about a second, while he was purposely holding back its speed.
    He later demonstrates that it’s actually 500 times faster than what he previously showed.

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111139434/4186496-7732280709-15.jp.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111139434/4186498-2576271269-bleac.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111139434/4186499-4284432417-bleac.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111139434/4186500-0688908033-bleac.jpg

    Assuming the town is like 1 kilometer, that they were standing at the mid point, and that the swing took 1 second (saying it took a complete second is pretty high end imo, since these characters are lightning timers+)
    That’s 250,000 m/s, Mach 729.

    Ichigo was dodging it just fine. Without his Hallow Mask or Full Hallowed form.

  72. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 9:55 pm -      #72

    “Proof mountain ranges aren’t incredibly large?”

    I was going off of average mountain size for the sake of arguement. But are you claiming they naruto mountains are many orders of magnitude larger than ours?

    “Proof?”

    Our average mountain size vs naruto mountains that are clearly visible from space.

    Here is mount everest viewed from space.
    images.spaceref.com/news/2014/B6IDIDCCEAAK2Z6.jpg

    Here is some naruto mountains.
    i28.mangapanda.com/naruto/676/naruto-4953625.jpg

    Heck, you can even see the curvature of naruto earth to be much, much smaller than that of our earth relative to mountain size, based on average mountain size.

  73. Jake_Uzumaki April 22, 2015 at 9:55 pm -      #73

    i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s–JC1yfu6j–/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/m5oq2ihvceua9lk9htek.jpg
    The rocky mountains as seen from space

    The Himilayas
    www.icimod.org/v2/cms2/_files/images/774793a7058abc755d0794a24a36ee21.jpg

  74. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 10:03 pm -      #74

    But are you claiming they naruto mountains are many orders of magnitude larger than ours?”

    No, I’m saying it’s a possibility.
    =
    “Our average mountain size vs naruto mountains that are clearly visible from space.”

    Proof Naruto mountains are similar in size as our mountains?

  75. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 10:03 pm -      #75

    This is the city/town from the previous feat btw:
    i21.mangapanda.com/bleach/399/bleach-2400435.jpg

    Judging by the size of the buildings, It looks significantly bigger than just a kilometer.

    Here’s another feat from the Aizen & Ichigo fight.
    i8.mangapanda.com/bleach/418/bleach-2399591.jpg
    i8.mangapanda.com/bleach/418/bleach-2399593.jpg

    See that tiny black spec on top of the newly formed mountain? (second/middle panel of the first scan). That’s Ichigos relative size to the destruction.
    That was flat land before their fight. The shockwave from Ichigo blocking Aizens hit caused a literal canyon to form around them. A pretty fucking big one too.

  76. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 10:09 pm -      #76

    These mountain/canyon feats aren’t even half way through the series,
    And even during this point in the series, this was Ichigos weakest form.

    So this is all pre-17 month time skip.
    Which is the only time skip that i know of.

    It’s true he loses his Soul Reaper powers after briefly transcending.
    But he gets them back, along with the Fullbringer amp.

    Oh, and he also has wolverine-esq regeneration in his base form.
    i20.mangapanda.com/bleach/353/bleach-2402527.jpg
    i3.mangapanda.com/bleach/353/bleach-2402529.jpg

  77. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 10:12 pm -      #77

    “No, I’m saying it’s a possibility.”

    I would like to know what makes you think it is a possibility.

    “Proof Naruto mountains are similar in size as our mountains?”

    I already said, I am going off of our real world average mountain size for the sake of argument. Unless you have proof individual naruto mountains are the size of… lets say… hmm… the country of egypt seems close enough to make comparisons with.
    www.freelargeimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/World_map_with_countries.jpg

    i28.mangapanda.com/naruto/676/naruto-4953625.jpg

  78. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 10:15 pm -      #78

    This is when he transcended,
    i7.mangapanda.com/bleach/420/bleach-2399507.jpg

    Aizen (the dude that was accidentally busting mountains earlier) refers to himself as a 2 dimensional being trying to interfere with a 3 dimensional one (Ichigo)

  79. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 10:17 pm -      #79

    i’m kinda with Pimpmage on this,

    I’v watched a decent amount of the show, and the landscape looks to be the same as Earths with respect to the characters.
    Meaning no giant as fuck mountains.

    If the mountains are giant, then the characters are giant too.
    And lets be honest, it’s just more likely that the planet is smaller.

  80. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 10:18 pm -      #80

    “I would like to know what makes you think it is a possibility.”

    The fact that I can see them from space.
    =
    “I already said, I am going off of our real world average mountain size for the sake of argument.”

    So, there isn’t proof their average mountain range, is the same as our average mountain range?
    =
    ” Unless you have proof individual naruto mountains are the size of… lets say… hmm… the country of egypt seems close enough to make comparisons with.”

    Well, I can see them from space, so, yea, they’re pretty big.

  81. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 10:20 pm -      #81

    “i’m kinda with Pimpmage on this,”

    So, you’re saying the planet is smaller than Earth?
    =
    “I’v watched a decent amount of the show, and the landscape looks to be the same as Earths with respect to the characters.
    Meaning no giant as fuck mountains.

    If the mountains are giant, then the characters are giant too.
    And lets be honest, it’s just more likely that the planet is smaller.”

    I’m not saying they are, I’m just saying using the size of the mountains as proof the planet is “small” is about as faulty as saying the mountains are large since I can see them from space. Neither is good proof for proving either point.

  82. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 10:26 pm -      #82

    “So, there isn’t proof their average mountain range, is the same as our average mountain range?”

    Don’t all the showings from the anime consist of proof that they’re generally the same size of earths?

    “Well, I can see them from space, so, yea, they’re pretty big.”

    Or… Ya know… The planet’s small.
    And since we already know the average terrain scale when compared to a human is the same as Earths, it seems more likely.

    “So, you’re saying the planet is smaller than Earth?”

    I don’t see what relevance it has to the debate.
    But since it’s brought up, yea, i think that’s more likely than saying the mountains are giant.
    If i had to pick one, i’d pick the planet being small.
    Although i’m still not sure how that changes anything.
    Mountain busting is still just Mountain busting.

  83. Limbo Lowk April 22, 2015 at 10:38 pm -      #83

    So basically this ironman vs a even more specially trained warmachine for the prep?

  84. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 10:49 pm -      #84

    “Mountain busting is still just Mountain busting.”

    Yep. I agree. But when people are saying continent busting.. when naruto continents seem to be smaller than half the US states, thats a huge overstatement.

  85. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 10:52 pm -      #85

    “Don’t all the showings from the anime consist of proof that they’re generally the same size of earths?”

    Don’t all showings from the manga consist of proof that the planet is Earth sized?
    =
    “And since we already know the average terrain scale when compared to a human is the same as Earths, it seems more likely.”

    Doesn’t that then severely lessen all of the feats in the show since the Earth would then be smaller?
    =
    “If i had to pick one, i’d pick the planet being small.”

    Then wouldn’t you have to scale everything to the planet being smaller than Earth? Which would screw with things like gravity and the like?
    =
    “Mountain busting is still just Mountain busting.”

    That’s not what’s in question. I brought up Naruto having country busting attacks, which Pimpage says are actually just land masses a quarter of the size of Washington.

  86. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 11:00 pm -      #86

    “Then wouldn’t you have to scale everything to the planet being smaller than Earth? Which would screw with things like gravity and the like?”

    Its fiction. Not all fiction has to completely abide by our laws of nature.

    “That’s not what’s in question. I brought up Naruto having country busting attacks, which Pimpage says are actually just land masses a quarter of the size of Washington.”

    I am using WA as an example because I live here. I see the beautiful mountain range on clear days while driving back home.

  87. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 11:03 pm -      #87

    Survives forces that could punch through mountains.

    smg.photobucket.com/user/Ironboy/media/iron%20man/IronManv1095-02.jpg.html
    =
    Survived a nuke that left two Hiroshima shadows.

    s1235.photobucket.com/user/superbot400/media/Iron%20Man/Imagebot/Durability/InvincibleIronMan01Zone-Meganpg16.jpg.html
    =
    Survives striking the ground with the force of a small nuke.

    s1235.photobucket.com/user/superbot400/media/Iron%20Man/Imagebot/Durability/AvengersAnnual10-18.jpg.html
    =
    Surives a nuke again.

    smg.photobucket.com/user/Ironboy/media/iron%20man/IronManv1259-09.jpg.html

    smg.photobucket.com/user/Ironboy/media/iron%20man/IronManv1259-10.jpg.html

  88. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 11:06 pm -      #88

    “Its fiction. Not all fiction has to completely abide by our laws of nature.”

    But we see that it works the same way it works in our world, so if we see it works the same way then we’ll have to apply the same rules.

  89. TheSorrow April 22, 2015 at 11:08 pm -      #89

    Its fiction. Not all fiction has to completely abide by our laws of nature

    Unless specifically stated in the work of fiction itself, we have to assume that it abides by our laws. Otherwise you have arguments over the size of a planet, without any numbers to prove it one way, or another.

  90. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 22, 2015 at 11:10 pm -      #90

    ” Otherwise you have arguments over the size of a planet, without any numbers to prove it one way, or another.”

    Now, that would never happen.

  91. TheSorrow April 22, 2015 at 11:11 pm -      #91

    Right? I mean how asinine would that be? Arguing without evidence either way.

  92. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 11:14 pm -      #92

    “But we see that it works the same way it works in our world, so if we see it works the same way then we’ll have to apply the same rules.”

    I get ya there, but N verse earth seems to have exactly 1 times our earth gravity. It works because fiction doesn’t care. We could still calc stuff normally because gravity seems to be exactly the same, just the planet is smaller. You could give any number of reasonable explanations for it, though none would actually have been given in the story. Like say the core is made of depleted uranium. Super dense, gives the same amount of gravity for such a smaller size. Maybe the core is bigger too.

  93. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 11:15 pm -      #93

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSL6P0Gs6tU
    2:00-2:20

    Ichigo picks up Aizen, and leaps across the entire city + a few miles of mountain range, in about 10 seconds.

    It’s a fully developed city, with sky scrappers and the lot.
    Average cities in real life are anywhere between 500-10,000 km in a single dimension.

    Taking the extremely low end route, Ichigo was leaping at 50,000 m/s. While going against gravity. While holding an unwilling opponent.

    Before anyone calls it an outlier or something, these characters regularly move fast enough to the point where it looks like they’re instantly teleporting hundreds of meters.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzI2WuQGYgc
    8:00-8:35

    So.. Umm.. Yea
    This is all pre-time skip btw.

  94. TheSorrow April 22, 2015 at 11:17 pm -      #94

    I get ya there, but N verse earth seems to have exactly 1 times our earth gravity. It works because fiction doesn’t care. We could still calc stuff normally because gravity seems to be exactly the same, just the planet is smaller. You could give any number of reasonable explanations for it, though none would actually have been given in the story. Like say the core is made of depleted uranium. Super dense, gives the same amount of gravity for such a smaller size. Maybe the core is bigger too.

    This is exactly the kind of thing you want to avoid in debates, everything you just listed was speculation. We can’t go anywhere with it because there is no real proof to base it off of.

  95. pimpmage April 22, 2015 at 11:19 pm -      #95

    “This is exactly the kind of thing you want to avoid in debates, everything you just listed was speculation. We can’t go anywhere with it because there is no real proof to base it off of.”

    Mountains are not extremely big in naruto. They do not encompass every horizon and reach into outer space. A view of the planet shows this is the case. This shows that the actual planet is small. That is not speculation.

  96. TheSorrow April 22, 2015 at 11:22 pm -      #96

    You aren’t giving any hard numbers, just your perspective.

  97. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 11:23 pm -      #97

    So we have a hyper-hyper-hyper-hyper-hyper sonic character,
    That can bust mountains as an aftershock of deflecting things with his sword,
    And can create a canyon by deflecting an attack with his hand,
    Who also has wolverine-esq instant regeneration,
    And who dodges things moving at 250,000 m/s,

    This is the incarnation that’s in play in the match description…
    So, i guess it was sorta fair after all.
    Ironman vs Ichigo, while pre-skip Naruto & Master Chief just… umm… die?

  98. Jake_Uzumaki April 22, 2015 at 11:25 pm -      #98

    So apparently in addition to having the Sense negative emotions/intent ability from Nine Tails, and Sage Mode life force precog the combined Tailed Beast Chakra gives Naruto a heightened intuition about a situation.

    “The Nine Tails was still living inside Naruto. There were also remnants of the other 8 bijuu inside him as well. In that way, you could say he was a human pillar for the power of the Ten Tails. In the last war, Obito had become a human pillar for the Ten Tails and gained chakra rivalling that of the Sage of the Six Paths. Naruto, who’d taken the bijuu into him as well, had some of the Sage’s power even now. His ‘bad feelings’ were different from a normal human’s, and Sakura knew it too.”
    Shikamaru Hiden Chapter 7

    Just thought that was something interesting. Have been looking to see if there was anything about how far away the Land of Silence is from Konoha but nothing specific other than it took 3 days day and night of break neck nonstop travel by super sonic ninja’s too reach it. Even assuming they were only just breaking the sound barrier that would put the distance at around 55,224 miles from Konoha to their destination. Just the speed of sound would make it 54,720

  99. Ragnorke April 22, 2015 at 11:26 pm -      #99

    @Pimpmage
    “A view of the planet shows this is the case. This shows that the actual planet is small. That is not speculation.”

    Have the considered the possibility that it may have just been the angle at which the manga was showing the planet from?
    It could have been a close up, and tilted at a certain angle, which could very easily make mountain ranges look bigger.

    The mountains definitely aren’t giant. We know that for a fact from the scenery and terrains in both the Manga & Anime.

  100. erickyboo April 23, 2015 at 12:02 am -      #100

    So uh…
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