Rock Lee Vs Spiderman

Rock Lee Vs Spider-Man

Suggested by Nsl98

Rock Lee (Naruto) will go up against Spider-Man (Marvel)

They fight in NYC.

Lee is allowed to access the gates.

Who will win?

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72 Comments on "Rock Lee Vs Spiderman"

  1. Blazing Waffles May 10, 2015 at 12:17 am -      #1

    Unfamiliar with Lee but hot damn Spidey looks awesome.

  2. Nsl98 May 10, 2015 at 12:29 am -      #2

    Epic pic of Spidey, Rookie.

    Here’s some quick feats of his to start off:

    Speed:
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111112612/3199077-6733435134-197874.jpeg

    media.animevice.com/uploads/0/7572/198715-676350_bullets_super.jpg_super.jpeg

    Blitzing some supers:
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124575/2767078-tumblr_lp7n15MOmf1qidrtmo1_500.png

    Strength:
    imageshack.com/i/06spidertrainj
    img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Amazing_Spider-Man_32-03.jpg

  3. Jake_Uzumaki May 10, 2015 at 12:30 am -      #3

    youtu.be/tN_ZcX4PFHw?t=4350
    At 1:12:49 we see Lee and a group of gated Ninja cut an asteroid in half, then Lee shatters half of it with a punch.
    And that’s not even current…granted we don’t know how much Lee has improved in the ten or twelve or so years since that moment. I guess we could power scale from Guy but I don’t recall anything Guy did that really beats that.
    Not saying who wins, just putting that on the table.

  4. Limbo Lowk May 10, 2015 at 2:00 am -      #4

    For a second I thought it said superman. And I was like his powers haven’t gotten that wonky have they.
    ===
    Anyway does Lee have any large AoE attacks? Best way to hit Spidey is wide unavoidable attacks. I recall Guy having some kind of explosive attacks but I don’t know if Lee has it.

  5. Jake_Uzumaki May 10, 2015 at 2:20 am -      #5

    Well the fire blast thing was just punching so fast that fire was created from the friction.
    I believe all the Gate Techniques are just Taijutsu so Lee should be capable of them. But I’m not that willing to say with certainty.

  6. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 10, 2015 at 3:54 am -      #6

    @Jake Is that the only video or site you found the movie at?

  7. sadot06 May 10, 2015 at 6:34 am -      #7

    I didn’t like Spidey’s chances just with part 1 Lee. Asteroid punching Lee should win this very easily.

  8. Kitten Lord May 10, 2015 at 7:14 am -      #8

    Any other vids of lee? Cannot see the vid, its been removed apparently;

  9. sadot06 May 10, 2015 at 7:22 am -      #9

    Respect thread:
    www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/2pal0a/respect_rock_lee/

    Fight with Gaara: www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW-K2qz_Rbk

  10. itisburgers May 10, 2015 at 9:14 am -      #10

    Isn’t spidey a lightning timer?

  11. Kitten Lord May 10, 2015 at 9:18 am -      #11

    Isnt your mother a lightning timer?

  12. Friendlysociopath May 10, 2015 at 9:20 am -      #12

    Hmm, I don’t think Spiderman has the strength to keep up with Lee directly… then again, that meteor smashing feat had an entire group of ninja helping him so I’m unsure how much credit we can give him.
    (And leave it to Sasuke to just 1-up him 5 seconds later)
    Spiderman does have his precog though, which along with his natural speed and reaction time makes him able to dodge even lightspeed attacks.

  13. itisburgers May 10, 2015 at 9:23 am -      #13

    @kitten
    That’s cute, how’s grade school?

  14. Kitten Lord May 10, 2015 at 9:29 am -      #14

    @Burgers

    Pretty cool, we learned about baloons and how colourful they can be.

    @Friendly

    “This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube’s policy against spam, scams, and commercially deceptive content.”

    Youtube tells me this when I try and look at that link, what cruel world do we live in?

  15. Nsl98 May 10, 2015 at 9:31 am -      #15

    @Itisburgers
    Don’t know about lightning, but he’s dodged Electro’s attacks:
    img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101123180817/powerlisting/images/7/72/Spider-man_Dodging_Electro.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4482983-6408153247-80627.jpg

  16. Friendlysociopath May 10, 2015 at 9:35 am -      #16

    Youtube tells me this when I try and look at that link, what cruel world do we live in?

    A world where creator’s really dislike having their work given away for free 😀

    Spiderman never actually gets Thor’s hammer does he?

    Don’t know about lightning, but he’s dodged Electro’s attacks:

    Do I have to bring Rag in here with 20 pages of Spiderman dodging lasers and lightspeed attacks?

  17. Nsl98 May 10, 2015 at 9:41 am -      #17

    Do I have to bring Rag in here with 20 pages of Spiderman dodging lasers and lightspeed attacks?

    Wasn’t that on Mephisto vs Galactus….I mean Venom vs Kratos?

    Spiderman never actually gets Thor’s hammer does he?

    He does in Marvel Adventures (Kiddie Marvel):
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/96213/1832787-453099_ma__spider_man_40__page_14_by_david_nakayama_super.jpg

  18. Jake_Uzumaki May 10, 2015 at 9:54 am -      #18

    @Friendly
    no, it was a fake one given to him by Enchantress I think. At least that’s what I’ve read on forums when people post that

    “that meteor smashing feat had an entire group of ninja helping him so I’m unsure how much credit we can give him.”
    I think the initial strike with all of them just cut the metiorite to a degree down the middle, which might explain why the break looks unusually clean as the other half flips up from the loss of weight. I’m not saying its that but thats what the green ninja gang blade thing seems to do is cut it.
    ————————
    so to save myself a migrane here’s a gif of the Lee and gate Ninja vs Asteroid thing that I just made…because its easier then hoping a video stays up since its all of 1 scene.
    cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-10-2015/71aBwp.gif

  19. Nsl98 May 10, 2015 at 10:11 am -      #19

    So is the green thing surrounding the asteroid Lee’s? Or was it the other ninjas and Lee just punched it?

    Either way, it’s a pretty sweet DC feat.

  20. Jake_Uzumaki May 10, 2015 at 10:15 am -      #20

    the green aura blade is the combination of all the Green Auras of them opening the gates, apparently Lee’s been busy teaching people to pass on the skill.
    So all of them hit it, it slices down the middle some as the asteroid heats up, then Lee opens the sixth gate and punches half of it into oblivion.
    Makes you wonder what would happen if someone like Sakura or Naruto combined the gates with their existing strength enhancing techniques.

  21. itisburgers May 10, 2015 at 11:38 am -      #21

    Wait spidey has FTL reactions now?

  22. Nsl98 May 10, 2015 at 12:14 pm -      #22

    So, found Rag’s scans for Spidey’s lightspeed RT:

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125392/2880993-198732_feat44speedgx6.jpg_super.jpeg
    Dodging Sentinel Laser
    2.bp.blogspot.com/-cDdfyt2y8fs/UiOEUqtjC-I/AAAAAAAABf0/PlgBAGHVAwg/s1600/006.PNG
    Dodging Cyclops Optic Blast
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111112612/3201094-8097264150-12460.jpg
    Dodging Ironmans Repulsor Beam
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111112612/3199077-6733435134-197874.jpeg
    Dodging a villains “Light” Beam

  23. Friendlysociopath May 10, 2015 at 1:16 pm -      #23

    Wait spidey has FTL reactions now?

    Well remember the precog, but on the whole yeah; he can dodge lightspeed attacks. Remember that one of his staple villains is a guy who throws around lightning.

  24. sadot06 May 10, 2015 at 2:43 pm -      #24

    “—
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125392/2880993-198732_feat44speedgx6.jpg_super.jpeg
    Dodging Sentinel Laser
    2.bp.blogspot.com/-cDdfyt2y8fs/UiOEUqtjC-I/AAAAAAAABf0/PlgBAGHVAwg/s1600/006.PNG
    Dodging Cyclops Optic Blast
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111112612/3201094-8097264150-12460.jpg
    Dodging Ironmans Repulsor Beam
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111112612/3199077-6733435134-197874.jpeg
    Dodging a villains “Light” Beam
    –”
    None of that is light speed.

    And obviously Spiderman can still be hit. His Spider sense as far as I know just warns him of impending danger. It’s not like a Jedi.

  25. Jake_Uzumaki May 10, 2015 at 2:57 pm -      #25

    @Sadot
    it kind of varies, sometimes its portrayed as more of a vague warning, others its more precise, though it relies on his instinct to interpret, he usually does better when he just trusts his instincts than when he tries to think about it.

  26. Ragnorke May 10, 2015 at 3:38 pm -      #26

    He can dodge lightspeed PROJECTILES (rather casually imo) as long as he has a meter or two of distance between him and the source.
    He cannot dodge lightspeed ATTACKS from a moving enemy.

  27. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 10, 2015 at 3:51 pm -      #27

    @Sadot Both IM’s repulsors and Cyclops optic blasts have been said to be light speed. I’ll post scans in a bit.

  28. Kitten Lord May 10, 2015 at 4:06 pm -      #28

    All the scans look like aim dodging, spider sense would make that even easier.

  29. Ragnorke May 10, 2015 at 4:14 pm -      #29

    I never said it wasn’t aim-dodging. But Spider Sense precog basically guarantees he can aim-dodge just about “anything”.
    Many of the characters such as Cyclops, wouldn’t give much warning before firing.
    He also dodged multiple blasts from Ironman which were all in quick succession.

  30. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 10, 2015 at 4:22 pm -      #30

    @Sadot Here they are:

    Cyclops Optic blasts light speed.

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/7/78977/2714284-optic_blasts_9.jpg

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/7/78977/2714282-optic_blasts_7.jpg

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/12397/1501860-1132115_1096177_00_super_super.jpg

    IM’s repulsor rays light speed.

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11111/111118857/4228054-2683134667-repul.jpg

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111118857/4228056-2267150898-Comic.jpg

  31. Ragnorke May 10, 2015 at 4:32 pm -      #31

    @CH
    Speaking of “light speed”ness. You should take a look at the shit fest that: Conquer All Fiction Universe War Part 1 became.
    Heck you might even be able to help.

    It’s being argued whether or not characters in comics can actually move FTL.
    Yea, sounds stupid as fuck, and his arguments are in fact stupid as fuck.
    Specially considering i posted over 3 dozen scans regarding it, and he tried to dismiss them all by saying Hyperbole.

    But could you look through all the scans i posted? and add any others that you may have that i missed?
    Not that it’s likely to change Malenfants mind, but it’ll help give information to the more reasonable people.

  32. Kitten Lord May 10, 2015 at 4:37 pm -      #32

    Rag mind looking through my math in the kain vs symbiotes thread?

  33. Limbo Lowk May 10, 2015 at 4:56 pm -      #33

    “And obviously Spiderman can still be hit. His Spider sense as far as I know just warns him of impending danger. It’s not like a Jedi.”

    Spider Sense lets him know if someone is watching him when he is changing clothes, fight blind, track things, tell from which direction thing are coming from
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7604/1135180-spidersense23wb.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7604/1135181-spidersense15ul.jpg
    goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/met4-15-2f.jpg
    and… know when women are sunbathing? Wait what
    img42.imageshack.us/img42/1707/67285126.jpg

    Anyway here he describes what it’s like
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/3582634-spider+sense+3.jpg

    Like I said before generally the simplest way to get past it is with attacks he can’t dodge. Thing coming from various directions isn’t enough, you need something where the danger is pretty much everywhere. Like say a collapsing.
    Or do what Colossus did, wide area of effect like a thunderclap.
    Of course he still has defenses like webshields but They have tanked explosions and pulled trucks before so you’d have to really blast them hard.

  34. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 10, 2015 at 5:00 pm -      #34

    @Rag I’ve been reading it… While I can see why someone could dismiss a feat because the effects aren’t there(although I completely disagree as you already know. Hell, me and Aelfinn have butted heads over it before), I don’t see how you can disagree with feats that have visual distances being crossed in a very clearly short amount of time.

    I was going to look for some feats, but I’m running out of time(work… UGH).

    I recommend using feats that have absolutely NO distances being told or time being mentioned. Like the Silver Surfer one of him crossing galaxies or he ones of Sentry moving the distances of celestial bodies. If you haven’t noticed(or maybe I missed them)those are the ones he hasn’t acknowledged or responded to. I was looking for Nova crossing the galaxy, Supes w/DD virus and RL SG crossing the galaxy, Stardust(might’ve been a different herald)going from Andromeda to Milky Way(while the distance is somewhat mentioned, it’s clear it’s crossing galaxy wide distances), Supes going to Cryptun, erg Krypton(if you don’t get the refernce, please ask, it’s pretty funny)which is in Andromeda, just things like that where there is NO basis for it not being FTL.

  35. sadot06 May 10, 2015 at 6:30 pm -      #35

    Iron Man make sense, but Cyclops? X Men must have had some inconsistent writing since the days of those scans because Wolverine and Captain America have reacted to them.

  36. Kitten Lord May 10, 2015 at 6:33 pm -      #36

    Nothing wrong with Captain America and Wolverine dodging it either….

  37. Ragnorke May 10, 2015 at 6:39 pm -      #37

    ” but Cyclops? X Men must have had some inconsistent writing since the days of those scans because Wolverine and Captain America have reacted to them.”

    Well they would have aim-dodged it then.
    They do have superhuman reaction times after all, and i’d say they know Cyclops well enough to predict him.

  38. Friendlysociopath May 10, 2015 at 8:25 pm -      #38

    I keep forgetting to say “projectiles” when mentioning Spiderman being able to dodge lightspeed stuff, my bad.

    Still, I don’t think Lee is anywhere near fast enough to hit him; and if he did I’m reasonably sure it wouldn’t immediately KO Spiderman considering he’s taken shots from the Hulk before.
    (Not saying they didn’t hurt him, but they didn’t destroy him)

  39. MatthiasTheWanderer May 10, 2015 at 8:54 pm -      #39

    “Still, I don’t think Lee is anywhere near fast enough to hit him; and if he did I’m reasonably sure it wouldn’t immediately KO Spiderman considering he’s taken shots from the Hulk before.
    (Not saying they didn’t hurt him, but they didn’t destroy him)”

    Umm, you’re obviously not familiar with with what Lee is capable of. Lee is exponentially faster than characters that regularly beat Spidey into a bloody mess. If the Green Goblin can tag him, Lee can most DEFINITELY hit him. Honestly, as much as I love the guy, I’m kind of worried about Pete here. Most speedsters in comics tend to have PIS coming out their ears to avoid having them roflstomp everyone else. (If Flash or Quicksilver consistently acted like they had reaction times on par with their running speeds, well… see X-Men: DoFP.)
    Naruto characters, on the other hand, tend to have reaction speeds that are, if anything, ABOVE their physical speeds, especially taijutsu specialists. Also consider that, at his earliest fight, he had enough brute strength to pummel a stone floor into a rubble field, and this fight is tilting seriously in his favor.

  40. Nsl98 May 10, 2015 at 9:43 pm -      #40

    For reference:

    i181.photobucket.com/albums/x296/acewasp23/hulkan11spider-man.jpg


    i181.photobucket.com/albums/x296/acewasp23/amazingspider-man381.jpg

    Hulk has also chucked stuff at Spidey, and he catches it:
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142634/3673178-1640679219-feat2.jpg

  41. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 11, 2015 at 3:39 am -      #41

    “Iron Man make sense, but Cyclops? X Men must have had some inconsistent writing since the days of those scans because Wolverine and Captain America have reacted to them.”

    Well, I’ve seen Cap react to both, so not really that uncommon.
    =
    @Rag Kinda hoping you would’ve asked where that Cryptun came from…

  42. Ragnorke May 11, 2015 at 9:29 am -      #42

    “Kinda hoping you would’ve asked where that Cryptun came from…”

    Beyonder vs Molecule Man i think? :3

  43. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 11, 2015 at 9:53 am -      #43

    Yup, in one of their fights they destroyed a planet called Cryptun, which had one lone survivor escape. Which, coincidentally, happened to be in Andromeda, back before they said Krypton was there.

  44. Friendlysociopath May 11, 2015 at 10:21 am -      #44

    Also consider that, at his earliest fight, he had enough brute strength to pummel a stone floor into a rubble field, and this fight is tilting seriously in his favor.

    If Spiderman’s webbing can hold the Hulk- it can hold Lee. Nothing Lee has done makes me think he is someone Spiderman is unable to at least be around the same level.
    And Spiderman is no slouch when it comes to strength either.
    www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1304849/

    Most speedsters in comics tend to have PIS coming out their ears to avoid having them roflstomp everyone else.

    Like say Spiderman? Who casually hops around at Supersonic speeds?
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111115653/3543902-0405805293-Amazi.jpg

    Or so fast a targeting computer can’t track him?
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/134553/3542838-screen+shot+2014-01-01+at+2.06.00+pm.png

    Or can outruns bullets?
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/134553/2888274-screen_shot_2013_02_22_at_9.57.01_pm.png

  45. Friendlysociopath May 11, 2015 at 10:55 am -      #45

    Eh, don’t want to double-post but I have too many tabs open.

    Fast enough to dodge all avengers attacking at once
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11121/111213103/4441644-2584545754-ramos.jpg

    Webbing shield can tank hits from Thor
    puu.sh/gwmzV/83dabebb88.jpg
    and sentinel lasers
    media.animevice.com/uploads/0/7572/198729-feat43speedequipmentcn2.jpg_super.jpeg

    and Spiderman can tank being hit by the Hulk
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111112612/3220454-7117096376-31889.png
    without much of an issue
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111226671/4544978-6917943003-spide.jpg

  46. Nsl98 May 11, 2015 at 11:33 am -      #46

    More strength:
    www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploads/MattReed/2011-03-11_124508_asm33-2.jpg

    goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/asm365-3.jpg

    Slinging a tank around:
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/118094/2445996-feat15strength2dr8.jpg

    Explains how he uses agility in battle:
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72463/2046382-feat37agilityspeedmx2.jpg

  47. MatthiasTheWanderer May 11, 2015 at 10:55 pm -      #47

    “If Spiderman’s webbing can hold the Hulk- it can hold Lee. Nothing Lee has done makes me think he is someone Spiderman is unable to at least be around the same level.
    And Spiderman is no slouch when it comes to strength either.
    www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1304849/”

    First, that’s assuming he can hit him with enough of it to hold him for more than a fraction of a second, because that webbing has also been torn with casual ease by MUCH weaker characters than Hulk. Second, I was more referring to the fact that hits from end series Lee will shatter bone and pulp internal organs. Also, where exactly is the Hulk in that shot?

    “Like say Spiderman? Who casually hops around at Supersonic speeds?
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111115653/3543902-0405805293-Amazi.jpg”

    Hyperbole. Obscenely obvious hyperbole. I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry that any serious fan would try and present that as actual evidence.

    “Or so fast a targeting computer can’t track him?
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/134553/3542838-screen+shot+2014-01-01+at+2.06.00+pm.png”

    Which doesn’t denote movement speed so much as how quickly and randomly he can change direction to fool a computer whose specs have not been specified.

    “Or can outruns bullets?
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/134553/2888274-screen_shot_2013_02_22_at_9.57.01_pm.png”

    This one is interesting, but I want to see an expanded scan, because those are curving in that shot, and therefore obviously not normal bullets.

    “Fast enough to dodge all avengers attacking at once
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11121/111213103/4441644-2584545754-ramos.jpg”

    Okay, first off, that’s not Peter, which puts the feats validity at least slightly in question. Second, while definitely impressive, that’s a reaction time feat, not speed, and he has precog.

    “Webbing shield can tank hits from Thor
    puu.sh/gwmzV/83dabebb88.jpg
    and sentinel lasers
    media.animevice.com/uploads/0/7572/198729-feat43speedequipmentcn2.jpg_super.jpeg”

    Well that’s great, but first, what’s the situation, because I can think of very few where Thor would be using his full strength against another hero who has, at best, limited invulnerability, and second, he has to have time to put it up, and unless he wants to limit his mobility, only covers one direction at a time.

    “and Spiderman can tank being hit by the Hulk
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111112612/3220454-7117096376-31889.png
    without much of an issue
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111226671/4544978-6917943003-spide.jpg”

    Nobody’s saying that his ability to take punishment isn’t impressive, I just doubt his ability to take as much as Lee can dish out in even his earliest fights in the series.

  48. Limbo Lowk May 12, 2015 at 1:18 am -      #48

    “Hyperbole. Obscenely obvious hyperbole.”

    Seemed to be missing the flair of marvel hyperbole. Looks like it was just stating how much time had passed. Some writer however probably didn’t realize how fast that would make him. Then again I’ve seen a scan of him blitzing guys while a bullet has only made it a few feet after he has move from the guy who fired it.
    ===
    “Okay, first off, that’s not Peter, which puts the feats validity at least slightly in question.”

    One, still his body. Two, Only thing Otto really had going for him was prep and lack of a no kill rule. Doesn’t really help his speed.
    ===
    “I just doubt his ability to take as much as Lee can dish out in even his earliest fights in the series.”

    “Also consider that, at his earliest fight, he had enough brute strength to pummel a stone floor into a rubble field, and this fight is tilting seriously in his favor.”

    Well endurance aside the guy isn’t exactly delicate

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/141134/3957783-venom4a+spiderjerk+hit+by+a+bus.jpg

    arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/spidermanmorlunb11.jpg?w=590&h=933

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11112/111124673/3723367-3653232934-spide.jpg

    The fact that he doesn’t go splat against some of these things is in some part due to his durability. It isn’t enough to no sell some things but that where his endurance comes in.
    Still kind of leaning towards Lee though.
    ===
    “This one is interesting, but I want to see an expanded scan, because those are curving in that shot, and therefore obviously not normal bullets.”

    Apparently they are tracking bullets
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/13/134553/2888270-screen_shot_2013_02_22_at_9.56.15_pm.png
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/13/134553/2888271-screen_shot_2013_02_22_at_9.56.22_pm.png

  49. Friendlysociopath May 12, 2015 at 1:47 am -      #49

    Hyperbole. Obscenely obvious hyperbole.

    Uh-huh, evidence for that? Because unlike vague hyperbole that was extremely specific as to how far he went in a set time.

    “I just doubt his ability to take as much as Lee can dish out in even his earliest fights in the series.”

    He fights Hulk, often.
    And gets hit by Hulk, often.
    Lee does not hit harder than the Hulk; even baseline Hulk is far stronger than most of what Lee can do. Lee is not going to take down Spiderman that easily.

    Let’s see, what other scans do I have laying around?

    Here’s Spiderman shattering Doc Ock’s Carbanadium arms.
    imgur.com/a/3ngDx#1

    Carbanadium is comparable to Adamantium btw
    i.imgur.com/KuW8J9x.jpg

    So if he hits Lee it’s going to hurt like a mother- and he will hit Lee because not only can he deal with lightning-speed attacks (yeah yeah, projectiles)
    but he can fight someone who can see the future- and while he doesn’t win, he can fight them to a draw
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125203/3905586-5039571937-35060.jpg

    he has to have time to put it up

    He spins his webbing shields quickly enough to block bullets and sentinel lasers- pretty sure he can deal with Lee’s speed; if he can react to things that go lightspeed, he can at least be on equal ground with a hypersonic ninja.

  50. Alpha or Omega May 12, 2015 at 1:55 am -      #50

    “He fights Hulk, often.
    And gets hit by Hulk, often.
    Lee does not hit harder than the Hulk; even baseline Hulk is far stronger than most of what Lee can do. Lee is not going to take down Spiderman that easily.”
    /
    To be fair, no matter how angry he is, it’s not like Hulk is trying to kill someone. IIRC, he only killed one person directly, but that was on accident.
    Also want to point out that from the feats show that Spiderman at best tanked a blow that put only a man sized crater into the wall.
    Not exactly what Rock Lee does.

  51. Limbo Lowk May 12, 2015 at 2:11 am -      #51

    Manages to walk away from a hit that knocks him through a building
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    He’s not invincible but his body can take a hit. Whether he keeps going is normally where the pain tolerance comes in.

  52. Limbo Lowk May 12, 2015 at 2:27 am -      #52

    Also Morlun, the guy that was knocking spiderman through wall and flinging cars like nothing. He broke through an adamantium net
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/8/80103/2289112-morlun_ripping_adamantium.png

  53. sadot06 May 12, 2015 at 3:45 am -      #53

    Regardless, Lee split an asteroid in half with a punch, Spiderman’s body isn’t taking that.

  54. Limbo Lowk May 12, 2015 at 4:21 am -      #54

    “Regardless, Lee split an asteroid in half with a punch, Spiderman’s body isn’t taking that.”

    Oh most definitely. I was arguing from the early rock lee stuff comment.

  55. MatthiasTheWanderer May 12, 2015 at 4:24 am -      #55

    “Apparently they are tracking bullets”
    So he has time to speak a full sentence between the time they turn around and the time he has to dodge them? Outrunning bullets feat has just been severely neutered.

    Lets all keep in mind that while he has an OBSCENELY high pain tolerance and heroic willpower that would make a Green Lantern jealous, he’s only moderately tougher, physically, than a baseline human, and most of that is attributed to super strength. He doesn’t actually have any kind of invulnerability as an actual, stated part of his powerset. People keep posting scans of him taking hits from Thor and the Hulk, and yeah, it’s impressive, but those guys are not trying to kill him. These aren’t the same blows that level buildings that he’s getting hit with, and, on the subject, HE GETS HIT BY THE HULK. As powerful as he is, the Hulk is leagues below Lees non weighted speeds, and that’s not even touching the gates. If we’re putting them in a flat-out death match, Spidey’s getting blitzed. Yes he has limited precog, and yes, he’s agile, but once he takes a single hit, which he will, Lee is going to combo him into paste.

  56. Ragnorke May 12, 2015 at 4:32 am -      #56

    “He doesn’t actually have any kind of invulnerability as an actual, stated part of his powerset. ”

    Having Super Human Strength goes directly hand in hand with Super Human Durability.
    Unless you have evidence of Spidermans hands breaking every time he punches something? Or his back breaking every time he lifts something heavy?

    “These aren’t the same blows that level buildings that he’s getting hit with,”

    Spidermans fight with Firestorm actually leveled buildings as an after effect of their battle.
    But i personally call PiS on that.

    “HE GETS HIT BY THE HULK”

    mlpforums.com/uploads/post_images/img-2444648-2-svsh.jpg
    He seems to do rather well imo.

    Lets not forget Hulk has hit people like Hyperion, Gladiator, Thor, etc etc who are all Faster than light if they want to be.
    It’s just PiS.

    ” If we’re putting them in a flat-out death match, Spidey’s getting blitzed. ”

    What’s his actual calced speed? And post the calc too if you don’t mind.
    Numbers settle things much better than assumptions.

  57. Limbo Lowk May 12, 2015 at 5:10 am -      #57

    “Lets all keep in mind that while he has an OBSCENELY high pain tolerance and heroic willpower that would make a Green Lantern jealous, he’s only moderately tougher, physically, than a baseline human, and most of that is attributed to super strength.”

    Super strength aside,Some of the stuff he has been hit or crush by would make someone only moderately tougher then a human go splat. A hit strong enough to send you flying through a building, being beaten on by Rhino(80 tonner); having super strength alone wouldn’t have helped his body not become a broken bloody smear on the walls or streets.
    You don’t have to have some kind of invulnerability to be super humanly durable.

  58. Kitten Lord May 12, 2015 at 6:42 am -      #58

    @Friendly

    “Lee does not hit harder than the Hulk; even baseline Hulk is far stronger than most of what Lee can do.”

    be careful of this sort of thing, the scan I see above shows Hulk just knocking spiderman up against a rock wall, which clearly damages it but just be aware scaling hulk at his peak and trying to apply to his every strike on spiderman would give you erroneous numbers.

    List all the scenes hulk has hit spiderman and force and pressure can no doubt be found from those scenes.

    “Carbanadium is comparable to Adamantium btw”

    This sounds impressive though, does Carbanadium actually have feats? has it never been broken by anyone other than spiderman who may not be that strong as a general rule?

  59. Ragnorke May 12, 2015 at 6:53 am -      #59

    “List all the scenes hulk has hit spiderman and force and pressure can no doubt be found from those scenes.”

    No, it cannot, because it doesn’t take Super Durability into consideration.
    That’s why power-scaling isn’t really reliable.

    If you want to calc someones Force or Pressure, you should do it by calculating the Force or Pressure he applies to an object or area.
    A feat, rather than a fight.

    I repeat my example from the Vampire thread,
    Characters with Super Strength go all out against each other ALL the time, yet they do NOT send each other to different galaxies with their punches like they “should” be.

    Don’t tell me they were holding back during every single fight. Don’t be silly.

    “be careful of this sort of thing, the scan I see above shows Hulk just knocking spiderman up against a rock wall,”

    Hulk also probably wasn’t going all out here.
    I know he’s meant to be a rage monster and what not, but Bruce has enough control to stop himself from severely hurting allies and other Avengers.

  60. Kitten Lord May 12, 2015 at 7:15 am -      #60

    @Rag

    “Characters with Super Strength go all out against each other ALL the time”

    “Hulk also probably wasn’t going all out here.”

    You contradicted yourself here. We cannot just assume every superhuman fight is at peak, especially when clues from their force in the environment say otherwise. For example force is often actually shown, like when being smashed through buildings.

    The feats and fights have to be taken into consideration. If a superhero is fighting in space with other similar powerful beings of his level then its reasonable to say they are likely going all out….likely.

    However, if there are reasons, like you brought up concerning maybe fighting allies or generally good characters then it has to be considered they may not be trying to kill. Thats another thing, someone trying to kill is going to be making more effort than someone just trying to maim, or someone who is just fighting to defend themselves or others. Just a lot of suggestions here, many if not all could determine what a superhuman is outputing.

    I still stand by the environment and effects of their strikes giving us the best example. If someone throws a struck X distance, we can estimate the force he used, and finally the force/pressure on impact with his foe.

  61. Nsl98 May 12, 2015 at 9:29 am -      #61

    Vs an angered Rhino:

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  62. Ragnorke May 12, 2015 at 11:45 am -      #62

    @Kitten
    ” We cannot just assume every superhuman fight is at peak, ”

    In the comics themselves, most fights are NOT at peak.
    In BankGambling debates, we assume characters ARE at peak. (It’s actually part of the rules)

    “especially when clues from their force in the environment say otherwise. For example force is often actually shown, like when being smashed through buildings.”

    A 10,000N Force would break a wall, and a 100,000N Force would also break the wall, so would a 1,000,000N Force.
    I don’t agree with being any more hyper specific than that.
    As in: “The force wasn’t 100,000N because the wall didn’t break in the exact same way as it should have irl!”
    You can’t expect that much detail out of artists & writers.

    So if a wall was broken by a pissed off hulk going almost all out, we can’t assume he was JUST hitting hard enough to break that wall.
    Not that i’m debating for or against any particular Spiderman or Hulk fight. But i can say for certain Hulk does NOT go pissed off all out against Peter.
    I’m simply debating theory with you.

    “someone trying to kill is going to be making more effort than someone just trying to maim, or someone who is just fighting to defend themselves or others.”

    I never disagreed.
    If anything, i agreed with this in my last post.

    ” If someone throws a struck X distance, we can estimate the force he used,”

    True, only if the truck was allowed to travel it’s entire distance without being interfered.
    You have no way of knowing how far x would have truly been otherwise.

    But once again, this doesn’t determine a characters maximum power during that fight.
    It just means he throw it with a certain strength & a certain angle to hit a certain target.

    “and finally the force/pressure on impact with his foe.”

    Makes sense.
    But now you’re discussing Throwing an object. This wasn’t what was brought up before.
    Throwing an object is a much more accurate method of measuring Strength of a strike than breaking a wall.

  63. Friendlysociopath May 12, 2015 at 12:39 pm -      #63

    Spidey’s getting blitzed.

    I feel like you’re ignoring him being able to dodge lightning and fight someone who can see the future- that was without his Spider-sense too- he’s not getting blitzed by Lee.

    be careful of this sort of thing

    Hulk’s the more famous example, Sipderman regularly tangles with people who punch him through buildings- he’s very durable.

    So he has time to speak a full sentence between the time they turn around and the time he has to dodge them?

    He’s Spiderman- it’s a stated power of his that he can make witty remarks no matter the situation.

    Regardless, Lee split an asteroid in half with a punch, Spiderman’s body isn’t taking that.

    Just to nitpick, Lee required an entire team of ninja to help him do that; it’s not a solo feat.
    It’s a great feat of power, but it was assisted in both getting to the asteroid and then the team made a cut in it for Lee to hit- not nearly the same as Lee just breaking it in half on his own power with no help.

  64. MatthiasTheWanderer May 12, 2015 at 12:50 pm -      #64

    “He’s Spiderman- it’s a stated power of his that he can make witty remarks no matter the situation.”


    Fair enough.

  65. Nsl98 May 12, 2015 at 12:59 pm -      #65

    Spidey’s getting blitzed.

    And what feat of speed does Lee have that makes him get past the Spider-Sense?

    Also worth noting that he dodges sniper fire without SS:
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125392/3030026-tasm+637017.jpg

  66. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets May 12, 2015 at 1:39 pm -      #66

    “Lets not forget Hulk has hit people like Hyperion, Gladiator, Thor, etc etc who are all Faster than light if they want to be.
    It’s just PiS.”

    Besides fights, what FTL feats does Hulk actually have? I can think of two, maybe three FTL feats and a few LS feats, and catching IF’s fist(although the microsecond thing might’ve been after he caught it).
    =
    “I know he’s meant to be a rage monster and what not, but Bruce has enough control to stop himself from severely hurting allies and other Avengers.”

    Hulk does in fact hold back. Cho himself(one of the smartest men in the world)has stated that every encounter with the Hulk had Hulk calculating the route without the least amount of property damage.
    =
    “We cannot just assume every superhuman fight is at peak, especially when clues from their force in the environment say otherwise.”

    And we can’t use examples from the environment as an actual measure of their force either.

    For example, Sentry holding back does this:

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/1371770-14_vssentry4.jpg

    They were putting so much energy from a subatomic levels that you could see it on IM’s shoulder later on.

    Yet, Sentry going all out you get this:

    i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh020.jpg

    You just gotta understand the characters levels on both sides. Hulk going all out on Spidey? Just doesn’t make sense on either side. Hulk punching Red She Hulk going all out? Does make sense.
    =
    Just my 2₵.

  67. Kitten Lord May 12, 2015 at 3:28 pm -      #67

    @Rag

    “In BankGambling debates, we assume characters ARE at peak. ”

    As long as their in the match sure, if spiderman is in the match then he fights at peak, that says nothing about how we gauge feats he has in comics concerning characters not in the match.

    I think your misunderstanding me here. I was referring to when gauging comics on panel, not how hard characters fight in the match.

    “You can’t expect that much detail out of artists & writers.”

    Well it depends, if a wall does not smash down into atoms fair enough but if a superhuman throws a truck and it flies 10 meters, we know how much force it takes to move a truck, we do not assume any more.

    Its the same with them hitting walls, objects and each other.

    “But once again, this doesn’t determine a characters maximum power during that fight.
    It just means he throw it with a certain strength & a certain angle to hit a certain target.”

    Well my point was it determines that attack. If superman throws a truck, piece of debris and it flies into building which collapses, he did not throw it with the force it takes for him to smash up a planet, that is my point. Back to the truck example, if someone throws a vehicle, we know the force used could not be greater than the force the vehicle can take.

    “Throwing an object is a much more accurate method of measuring Strength of a strike than breaking a wall.”

    That was a very obvious example. If you break a wall down, and the wall falls over like its been hit by a car, thats the equivalent force it was hit by, regardless of whether it was superman, pre-retcon beyonder of daffy duck who hit it. The wall falling over was hit with the same force.

    Its not beyond writers, as we have seen in any major superhero fight to show larger scales of damage if they want the scene to imply the character is using that much force.

    @bullets

    “For example, Sentry holding back does this:”

    This is a specific example where it actually says what sentry does when holding back. If we did not know what force he was outputing however in a scan, and the only result of his blows was to break a car in half for example, we cannot say it was world busting.

    I doubt this happened with sentry himself but its an example for any superhero. Do not powerscale durability is all I am saying from blows that may not be at max power.

  68. Friendlysociopath May 12, 2015 at 3:36 pm -      #68

    Hulk going all out on Spidey?

    I’m not saying he goes all-out, just that Spiderman can take the hits without too much of an issue. I do believe Lee would severely harm him if he hit him (emphasis on the ‘if’ btw)
    but turn him to paste? One shot him? Nah, Spiderman is absurdly strong despite his street-level ranking- and can continue to fight despite being borderline dead.

    I think he gets hit by Thor’s hammer once too, don’t think it was Thor using it at the time though and don’t remember it clearly.

  69. Ragnorke May 12, 2015 at 3:45 pm -      #69

    @Kitten
    “Its not beyond writers, as we have seen in any major superhero fight to show larger scales of damage if they want the scene to imply the character is using that much force.”

    In Thor and Sentrys fight during siege, they literally tried to kill each other.
    And infact it ended with Thor killing Sentry.
    Characters that are unscratched by Supernovas, were trying to KILL each other.
    Yet the shown “damage” around them was a few craters. Maybe a small town level of destruction.

    So what you said here isn’t even remotely true.

    “Its the same with them hitting walls, objects and each other.”

    Okay so let me get this straight…
    If Thor & Sentry had only broken walls during their fight where they tried to kill each other… You would assume they were attacking each other with only wall busting power…?

    “Well my point was it determines that attack.”

    It determines the power behind THAT attack. Nothing more.
    It still doesn’t determine anything to do with the rest of the fight, as in when the characters are actually punching each OTHER.

    “. If you break a wall down, and the wall falls over like its been hit by a car, thats the equivalent force it was hit by, regardless of whether it was superman, pre-retcon beyonder of daffy duck who hit it. The wall falling over was hit with the same force.”

    I heavily disagree with this. You’re expecting too much of the artists.
    Once again, i give you the Sentry/Thor fight as an example.

    Having a wall break just proves the hit was AT LEAST strong enough to break a wall.
    It doesn’t give us an estimate of the hit. It doesn’t give us an average of the hit. It just gives us the minimum.
    The rest of our knowledge regarding those characters, and the context of the rest of the fight, gives us a much better representation of what their power truly is during the fight.

  70. Kitten Lord May 12, 2015 at 4:00 pm -      #70

    @Rag

    “In Thor and Sentrys fight during siege, they literally tried to kill each other.
    And infact it ended with Thor killing Sentry.
    Characters that are unscratched by Supernovas, were trying to KILL each other.
    Yet the shown “damage” around them was a few craters. Maybe a small town level of destruction”

    This is interesting. not relevent to this thread but I would like to see those scans. The fact those small, town level craters were present does not mean we can ignore them though. Clearly, at some point the characters did that level of damage.

    “You would assume they were attacking each other with only wall busting power…?”

    Sure, if Thor grabbed sentry and smashed him into a tank, and the tank got a hole in it no bigger than you may see from a high yield weapon hitting it then why would I assume they were swinging around planet busting force?

    “It determines the power behind THAT attack. Nothing more.
    It still doesn’t determine anything to do with the rest of the fight, as in when the characters are actually punching each OTHER.”

    I disagree, if their punching eachother and knocking eachother through cars or squashing cars, but are not doing any more damage than that then power scaling from other showings is dishonest and ignoring what the writer is showing you in this fight.

    “I heavily disagree with this. You’re expecting too much of the artists.”

    not at all, they have shown and described planets busting before, how could you argue its “too much” for the artist?

    “Having a wall break just proves the hit was AT LEAST strong enough to break a wall.”

    well like I said, it depends on the characters. If a superhero punches a wall, and a few bricks get knocked about then hes not hitting with much force. I have seen some pretty complicated scenes of destruction in marvel writing, even as simple as Spiderman causing bits of a plane to crumble or “peeling” of metal on a train car as he holds it.

    So its not beyond them at all.

    Also didnt you argue we should argue from the point of view of the characters and the fiction, not the whims of writers when i suggested carnage may not have been given dialogue in the other thread because it was irrelevant and the writer may not have wanted to bother himself? same thing to a degree.

    You argued sentry must be fast because otherwise carnage would have spoken, therefore I argue that at the very least a huge piece of land should be shattered if a character is outputing planet smashing forces.

  71. Ragnorke May 12, 2015 at 4:48 pm -      #71

    @Kitten
    ” The fact those small, town level craters were present does not mean we can ignore them though. Clearly, at some point the characters did that level of damage.”

    Or, they did way more damage, but the damage was focused at EACH OTHER, and the craters were simply after shocks.

    i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsInitiative01Siege1.jpg

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    “Sure, if Thor grabbed sentry and smashed him into a tank, and the tank got a hole in it no bigger than you may see from a high yield weapon hitting it then why would I assume they were swinging around planet busting force?”

    For the same reason we know Thor & Sentry were hitting each other with planet busting forces despite causing no more damage than a few small craters to their surrounding environment.
    We assume their bodies just absorb most of the impact force.
    Super Durability is a canon super power, whether you like to think of it as one or not.

    “if their punching eachother and knocking eachother through cars or squashing cars, but are not doing any more damage than that then power scaling from other showings is dishonest and ignoring what the writer is showing you in this fight.”

    The writer is showing us a fight between 2 characters who are focused on each other. Not the environment.
    You can’t ignore what we’re told & shown about these characters over and over throughout their history (that they’re casual planet busters), and assume that none of that was true for this one fight.
    Specially when both are bloodlusted and make clear mentions of not holding back.

    The context of the fight is more relevant than the side effects shown in the art.
    You’re border-line making the same argument that Malenfant was making now. That they couldn’t have been doing something (Which is a fictional superpower mind you) just because the art doesn’t perfectly show it as it should have irl.

    We know for an absolute fact both characters were unleashing planet busting attacks on one ANOTHER.
    The fact that the environment doesn’t properly display it doesn’t change anything.

    “not at all, they have shown and described planets busting before, how could you argue its “too much” for the artist?”

    Because all those “planet busting” showings are in cosmic comics, which have a different art style and a different theme all together.
    You seem to not understand that here.

    “I have seen some pretty complicated scenes of destruction in marvel writing, even as simple as Spiderman causing bits of a plane to crumble or “peeling” of metal on a train car as he holds it.”

    Sometimes the artists out-do themselves, sometimes they don’t take that much detail into consideration.
    I hope you know that the artists & writers for comics are NOT the same people.
    And sometimes little details can be missed, or even something that the writer didn’t bother taking into consideration, such as: “I want that one wall in that one building in that one scan COMPLETELY OBLITERATED” “show some destruction. Broken walls and stuff around them.”

    In the end of the day, the reason we assume comic characters are still FTL despite them not visually showing the effects of relative speeds, is because the CONTEXT overrides detail.

    But i do agree with what you said about it depending on the character or situation.
    We shouldn’t make it a general rule one way or the other.

    “Also didnt you argue we should argue from the point of view of the characters and the fiction, not the whims of writers when i suggested carnage may not have been given dialogue in the other thread because it was irrelevant and the writer may not have wanted to bother himself?”

    Yea, and the CHARACTERS were not holding back. We know that from the context.
    The writer failed to prioritize the side effects of the destruction around them, big whoop, it doesn’t change what the characters were doing at the time.

    Thor actually got AMPED for this fight, because his full power under regular circumstances wasn’t enough.
    So we know Thor is going BEYOND all out for this fight.

  72. Kitten Lord May 12, 2015 at 5:19 pm -      #72

    @Rag

    “Or, they did way more damage, but the damage was focused at EACH OTHER, and the craters were simply after shocks.”

    Not so sure about that but I do not know why you think it was not a lot of force even by looking at the environment there was a green field and a city at the beginning but by the end it looks like a huge bomb has just gone off and the city is rubble.

    “Super Durability is a canon super power,”

    Have you got a definition of the power in marvel stateing it means that it absorbs all or most energy per strike because that does not make sense. Durability ,as in the characters ability to soak damage is not necessarily anything to do with what their being thrown into. Its clear by that scene Thor came down onto sentry and the force created a bomb sized crater. This makes it fairly easy enough to understand the force, since real bombs can do damage like that.

    “The writer is showing us a fight between 2 characters who are focused on each other. Not the environment.”

    Their showing us a lot of things including damage to the environment. They did not draw a field, a city and its inhabitants getting “leveled” for you to ignore it.

    “You can’t ignore what we’re told & shown about these characters over and over throughout their history (that they’re casual planet busters), and assume that none of that was true for this one fight.
    Specially when both are bloodlusted and make clear mentions of not holding back.”

    The fact their casual planet busters does not change the fact that they choose for whatever reason (I can give you some obvious ones) that they may not output that force in a fight whether their holding back or not.

    “You’re border-line making the same argument that Malenfant was making now. ”

    No because Malenfant did not care what the narrators and characters said at all. Your making the same mistake on the other hand concerning the artwork and what the characters are doing, you cannot ignore the artwork since its just as much part of the event as the narration.

    Its why your reading a comic and not a book….

    “We know for an absolute fact both characters were unleashing planet busting attacks on one ANOTHER.”

    No you dont, you know for a fact they have outputted X amount of power in circumstances previously, not that they are in this fight.

    “Because all those “planet busting” showings are in cosmic comics, which have a different art style and a different theme all together.”

    Your going to have to explain this in more detail and what your point was by this statement. If by cosmic comics you mean their in space then that is obvious….

    “And sometimes little details can be missed, or even something that the writer didn’t bother taking into consideration,”

    Whether that is the case or not, the comic stands as it is in canon, which is as shown that they made a crater in your example, we cannot determine what was done behind the scenes at all scan per scan, we can only point out that they definitely can make a lot of damage shown and in this case decided that these craters were proportional to the feats in question.

    “The writer failed to prioritize the side effects of the destruction around them, big whoop, it doesn’t change what the characters were doing at the time.”

    But according to you we should not consider the writers, we debate characters as characters, fiction and events in it as fiction right? You cannot have “we argue carnage as a character and the writers not wanting to do something is not a valid point” and then use what a writer or artist may or may not have wanted in this example against me.

    Thats a double standard.

    Also who knows whether they prioritized , but we know they made it part of the scan that Thor/Sentry made building sized holes in the ground….

    “Thor actually got AMPED for this fight, because his full power under regular circumstances wasn’t enough.
    So we know Thor is going BEYOND all out for this fight”

    We do not know Thor going all out means he would bust this potentially peaceful/innocentl planet (not sure what the planet is tbh, is that Earth?), it looks like Thor was outputting most of the damage in those scans.

    Also, Thor and Sentry are light speed fighters right? Then how come, if their going all out, full speed, full strength etc a couple of humans and their camera can record it? Same with the other heroes just standing by and watching, clearly more factors that show us that their not exactly exerting everything they have shown but may be outputting all their combat prowess still if not the same force.

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Raiders of the Lost Ark - This is an amazing read on the thought process between George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and Lawrence Kasdan as they talk through the concepts of this amazing film. It's practically peering into the thought process of some of the most influential film makers of our day. And amazingly, shows how creative Lucas was.

Help Out Nepal

Finally a good reason to support Destiny.

Modern Gaming

Sad but true.

Curiosity Rover Spotted by Mars Orbiter on Mount Sharp

Humanity is the invading alien now...

Nope

No way I go here alone

17 Rare Star Wars Pictures

To see them, click here

Comic Con 2013 Cosplay Gallery

Just a ton of pictures of cosplayers from the 2013 Comic Con event

Ancient Aliens Map

If you ever watched the show "Ancient Aliens" and wanted a quick reference to where all the locations they mention are at, this is the site for you!

Fictional Universes Database

Soon to be shut down by Google, but here is a great starting point for Fictional Universes

99 Star Wars Pics

Some are cool, some are a bit absurd, but they are all based on Star Wars

Alternate Movie Posters

Something a bit distinct - Check them out

Epic Swiss Army Knife

Not Really...

Future Me

Write yourself an email letter to the future - Future Me

Neil Degrasse Tyson

Star Talk Radio - As always, keep looking up!