Saitama and Kaguya Vs Superman

Saitama and Kaguya Vs Superman

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One day Saitama (Onepunch Man) and Kaguya (Naruto) appeared in Metropolis and Superman (DC) was sent to capture them.

New 52 version of Superman.

Can he do it?

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62 Comments on "Saitama and Kaguya Vs Superman"

  1. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 7, 2015 at 12:36 am -      #1

    Don’t think Kaguya is fast enough to keep up. Although Saitama might be. Not entirely up to date with Onepunch Man. Thinking Supes takes this.

  2. Aelfinn April 7, 2015 at 12:40 am -      #2

    New 52 Superman is at least lightspeed (if not billions of times FTL) and can bench press the Earth for five days straight. I believe he also moved Brainiac’s ship, which was bigger than Earth, but that may have been with MMH’s help. Either way, from what I know of Saitama and Kaguya, they don’t measure up. I could be wrong, though.

  3. sadot06 April 7, 2015 at 12:46 am -      #3

    I don’t know anything about One Punch Man but Kaguya shouldn’t even be in this match. She’s hilariously below Superman in every way physical way. If Saitama is OP enough to hold his own against Supes the only thing Kaguya could do is send Superman to another dimension, assuming he doesn’t punch her head off.

  4. pimpmage April 7, 2015 at 12:46 am -      #4

    www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/2atp17/respect_one_punch_man/

    This thread has really good scans readily available and sorted.

  5. TheSorrow April 7, 2015 at 1:07 am -      #5

    The best speed/strength feat Saitama has so far is him jumping from the Moon, back to Earth in a few seconds.

  6. Aelfinn April 7, 2015 at 1:15 am -      #6

    “The best speed/strength feat Saitama has so far is him jumping from the Moon, back to Earth in a few seconds.”

    That puts him at approximately one-quarter the speed of light, assuming it happened in five seconds.

  7. pimpmage April 7, 2015 at 1:38 am -      #7

    “That puts him at approximately one-quarter the speed of light, assuming it happened in five seconds.”

    This is the moon jump bit.
    imgur.com/a/RQzdw

    Also, this is saitama punching a beam, and the resulting shock wave is half the earth in distance.
    imgur.com/a/TZqcR

  8. TheSorrow April 7, 2015 at 2:24 am -      #8

    Hopefully the anime will shed some light on how quick Saitama is.

  9. pimpmage April 7, 2015 at 3:31 am -      #9

    So, I haven’t read the anime yet, and I had some questions. Is the one punch bit kinda like heavy reality warping? Like every fight he is in, he wins with one punch? Sounds like an ongoing thing to me. Plot could possibly scale up saitama’s strength to beat superman?

  10. Rookie April 7, 2015 at 3:36 am -      #10

    @pimpmage

    “So, I haven’t read the anime yet, and I had some questions. Is the one punch bit kinda like heavy reality warping? Like every fight he is in, he wins with one punch? Sounds like an ongoing thing to me. Plot could possibly scale up saitama’s strength to beat superman?”

    Saitama have a fight with Boros, who conquered universe and Boros did survived Saitama’s attack:
    img.bato.to/comics/2014/03/01/o/read5311c7b2a6b67/img000011.jpg
    img.bato.to/comics/2014/03/01/o/read5311c7b2a6b67/img000012.jpg

    img.bato.to/comics/2014/07/15/o/read53c4efb468d03/img000011.png
    img.bato.to/comics/2014/07/15/o/read53c4efb468d03/img000012.png
    Although right before his death Boros later stated that Saitama wasn’t even close to go all out against him and hold back a lot.

  11. Numinous One April 7, 2015 at 4:03 am -      #11

    “Hopefully the anime will shed some light on how quick Saitama is.”

    Personally I’m more interested in seeing Lightspeed Flash in the redraw.
    Murata has just upscaled pretty much every encounter from ONE.

  12. Limbo Lowk April 7, 2015 at 4:36 am -      #12

    Going with Supes for now. If all he has to do is capture them then speed plus phantom zone projector should help.

  13. Friendlysociopath April 7, 2015 at 6:45 am -      #13

    Pretty sure Saitama isn’t fast enough here; Superman is capable of exceeding even Ludicrous Speed.

  14. Sylar121 April 7, 2015 at 8:30 am -      #14

    perhaps this match would be better if it was changed to man of steel supes ?

  15. Jake_Uzumaki April 7, 2015 at 10:36 am -      #15

    Man of Steel Supes makes it a curbstomp the other way.

  16. Amm0vamp1r3 April 7, 2015 at 11:39 am -      #16

    my money is on supes in the hilarious stomp

  17. Jake_Uzumaki April 7, 2015 at 12:03 pm -      #17

    Well I guess we could go with the ridiculous NLF that Saitama can full force one punch anyone…..or we could not do that.
    That said if his only way to win is capture….that’ll be a problem since Kaguya can just go to another dimension rendering him incapable of capturing her. Its more of a kick in the nuts spite victory than a real win but it’d be something I guess.

  18. sadot06 April 7, 2015 at 12:06 pm -      #18

    Maybe if it was like an animated incarnation of Supes. Like Justice League Unlimited. But as of now he stomps. Unless Saitama got more ludicrous feats. The main issue is his speed. He may very well be able to do some damage since he did punch an attack that can destroy the earth’s surface, but he isn’t nearly fast enough to catch N52 Supes.

  19. Rookie April 7, 2015 at 12:11 pm -      #19

    So team 1 are too weak… I hoped that this could be a challenge for Superman. Oh well, I can live with another Superman victory. Will do more research and find someone else for him to fight.

  20. Jake_Uzumaki April 7, 2015 at 12:12 pm -      #20

    Only way I can see team Kaguya killing him is if she’s already got the Infinite Tsukinomi working and the god tree is munching down on the life force of the DC Earth minus Superman for some reason….
    Because then….Superman will end up doing something very stupid. He’s going to try to stop the tree.
    The same way he stops the Doomsday cloud.
    He’s going to use his Super Flare to try and burn away the tree fail miserably and get one shot killed.

    That is the absolutely only scenario I can see this ending in a dead Superman.
    Unless her Ash Killing Bone can get past Superman’s durability, which I doubt even if it was able to get past the lol nope 159 teratons defense of Naruto.
    And I guess there is TSB’s but…I’m wary of saying a TSB thrown through a palm sized portal could work…it does destroy at the atomic level but…I am wary of claiming it could hurt Superman.

    So yeah. If Superman just has to kill them he stomps most likely.
    If Superman has to capture, Kaguya can spite him and sit in one of her dimensions taking pot shots every so often.
    The only way Superman dies is if an extremely specific set of circumstances happens because if those happen Superman will be Superman and try and save the poor people getting rooted and in desperation use his idiotically useless new power and become a normal squishy human.

  21. Rookie April 7, 2015 at 12:15 pm -      #21

    @Jake_Uzumaki

    “So yeah. If Superman just has to kill them he stomps most likely.”

    This is why I used Superman with “morals on” and capture mission))).

  22. Jake_Uzumaki April 7, 2015 at 12:18 pm -      #22

    @Sadot
    JLU probably gets stomped too since Naruto ended up stomping him. Might actually be worse here since Kaguya can put out more firepower.

    Also..I guess if nothing else Toneri’s planetary life wiping attack makes Kaguya’s ability to destroy a planet/planet sized dimension more reasonable. So..yay?
    ————
    But yeah, this is a stomp no matter how this is cut. Just depends what you’d find more entertaining.

  23. Jake_Uzumaki April 7, 2015 at 12:21 pm -      #23

    “This is why I used Superman with “morals on” and capture mission”

    Well spite win for Kaguya possible then I guess. Or would it be more of a spite draw? I’d be happy with a draw with Superman its cheap and all but…eh its not a curbstomp at least.

  24. TheSorrow April 7, 2015 at 12:46 pm -      #24

    Personally I’m more interested in seeing Lightspeed Flash in the redraw.
    Murata has just upscaled pretty much every encounter from ONE.


    I am looking forward to the entire encounter of the S-Class vs Boros vs Saitama. That is sure to have some amazing feats.

  25. Rookie April 7, 2015 at 1:17 pm -      #25

    @TheSorrow

    “I am looking forward to the entire encounter of the S-Class vs Boros vs Saitama. That is sure to have some amazing feats.”

    Maybe Garou instead of Boros? Boros never fought agaginst S-class heroes.

  26. pimpmage April 7, 2015 at 3:06 pm -      #26

    imgur.com/a/7g4xq

    Supposedly light speed slashes being dodged and grabbed by saitama. I would argue they are actually light speed since the attacker seems extremely convinced he was capable of attacking that fast.

  27. TheSorrow April 7, 2015 at 3:19 pm -      #27

    Maybe Garou instead of Boros? Boros never fought agaginst S-class heroes.

    Right, I got my names mixed up.

  28. Rookie April 7, 2015 at 3:19 pm -      #28

    @pimpmage

    “Supposedly light speed slashes being dodged and grabbed by saitama. I would argue they are actually light speed since the attacker seems extremely convinced he was capable of attacking that fast.”

    Genos was dodging lasers just fine (they even called them lasers)
    img.bato.to/comics/2014/10/19/o/read54443d88b0985/img000001.png
    img.bato.to/comics/2014/10/19/o/read54443d88b0985/img000002.png
    but he could not see Sonics movements.
    img.bato.to/comics/2015/02/21/o/read54e877b18fbfb/img000006.png When Sonic increased in speed in his battle against Saitama this happened:
    img.bato.to/comics/2015/03/29/o/read551872fd22196/img000008.png
    Not to mention that in Genos vs Saitama fight, Genos was fighting against Saitama afterimage all along, while Saitama was messing around.

  29. pimpmage April 7, 2015 at 3:25 pm -      #29

    Does anyone have a link to the manga available in the us?

  30. TheSorrow April 7, 2015 at 3:26 pm -      #30

    Light Speed Slashes only quantifiable feat is when he first engaged Garou in combat. www.mangahere.co/manga/onepunch_man_one/c084/5.html

    In 1/10000th of a second, he managed to throw around 19-20 punches, indicated by the swinging arcs in the frame.

  31. Rookie April 7, 2015 at 3:28 pm -      #31

    @pimpmage

    “Does anyone have a link to the manga available in the us?”

    Is this one works?
    bato.to/comic/_/comics/onepunch-man-r7139

  32. TheSorrow April 7, 2015 at 3:57 pm -      #32

    Oh forgot mention, Light Speed Slash managed to close a distance of about 3-4 meters as well as throw 19-20 punches in 1/10000th of a second.

  33. Limbo Lowk April 7, 2015 at 4:59 pm -      #33

    Would she be able to escape the Phantom zone? Isn’t it like an outside of space and time deal where you can feel or something like that?

  34. Jake_Uzumaki April 7, 2015 at 5:37 pm -      #34

    Well I would think so, I mean Doomsday was able to teleport out.
    Would Superman try that right off the bat though?

  35. Friendlysociopath April 7, 2015 at 6:44 pm -      #35

    Would Superman try that right off the bat though?

    Depends, are we counting BFR (with possible return) as ‘capturing’?

  36. Tarbel April 7, 2015 at 6:46 pm -      #36

    I like this site for OPM: view.thespectrum.net/series/one-punch-man.html?ch=Chapter+001&page=1

    BTW, I don’t think Light Speed Slash is actually light speed, he may just be very confident in the speed of his attacks so that no one can distinguish whether it is light speed or not anyway.
    Moving 3-4 meters in 1/10,000 of a second is 30,000 m/s-40,000 m/s and throwing 19-20 punches in 1/10,000th of a second is an attack speed of 190,000-200,000 punches per second.


    On the other hand, Saitama has quite easily withstood an attack that has sent him flying at relativistic speeds to the moon. view.thespectrum.net/series/one-punch-man.html?ch=Chapter+046&page=13
    view.thespectrum.net/series/one-punch-man.html?ch=Chapter+046&page=14
    view.thespectrum.net/series/one-punch-man.html?ch=Chapter+046&page=15

    Also, his jump back to Earth from the moon is relativistic, and probably created one of the largest craters on the moon as a side effect: view.thespectrum.net/series/one-punch-man.html?ch=Chapter+047&page=4


    Keeping in mind that Saitama wasn’t even serious for nearly the entire fight, I would presume he could continuously operate at that level, at the very least fighting very consistently at a fraction of the relativistic speed that he’d shown during the leap (the exact speed during the moon leap ranging from [5sec] .25c to 1.28c [1sec ] where seconds are the amount of time to reach Earth from the moon). So, roughly, Saitama’s consistent serious fighting speed (possibly) could be between 1/10th of between 0.25c and 1.28c ~= between Mach 22,000 and Mach 113,000 as a somewhat conservative approximation.

    I’d say the main question is how much do the combatants care about the Earth?



    EDIT: Good point, I forgot about BFR. Superman, probably very easily, wins by that method, at least against Saitama.

  37. Jake_Uzumaki April 7, 2015 at 7:01 pm -      #37

    Well Kaguya probably wouldn’t give a rats ass about a planet she’s not from…though she might want to use the inhabitants as cannon fodder by turning them into Zetsu’s. If she’s pushed she might decide to destroy the planet but I don’t know.
    Superman’s in character so of course he’d give his life to protect the planet.
    Saitama…..no clue.

    “Depends, are we counting BFR (with possible return) as ‘capturing’?”

    Well most authorities in DC universe would count that (considering how they treated the Joker for decades) but if she can get out then was she ever really captured?
    I would think being caught in the context of this match would be more like catching a Pokemon ie unless explicitly released with permission they can’t be uncaught. Otherwise it turns into a constant cycle of capture escape repeat. I mean I guess you could stretch the definition by saying she was caught in said endless cycle?
    So permanent or at extremely long period incapacitation. Phantom Zone BFR would work for Saitama but I don’t think it would work for Kaguya.

  38. Nobunaga Jin April 7, 2015 at 9:03 pm -      #38

    Wait, I’m confused. Which superman are we talking about, and are we using the redrawn One-Punch Man feats or the original that still seems to be continuing?

    Also, I’d like to point out that One-Punch man hasn’t really shown his full strength at any point. Not even in the original when he faces a guy whose limiter was removed as well.

  39. Nobunaga Jin April 7, 2015 at 9:18 pm -      #39

    I hate to double post, but I began to reread onepunch man again, and the editing timer ran out. See what you did? You made me want to reread the badassery of Onepunch Man. I just stopped reading the thing two months ago, and now I’m back to where o was. XD

  40. Jake_Uzumaki April 7, 2015 at 9:24 pm -      #40

    New 52 Superman.

  41. Nobunaga Jin April 7, 2015 at 9:29 pm -      #41

    Okay…but which version of Saitama? I mean, I would assume the original is the same as the redrawn version, since the redrawn version is literally what it is: a redrawing of the original comic, but just in case others don’t think the same way, which one are we using?

  42. Jake_Uzumaki April 7, 2015 at 9:38 pm -      #42

    not sure you’d have to ask Rookie

  43. Nobunaga Jin April 7, 2015 at 9:47 pm -      #43

    Well, I hope Rookie shows up to clarify, but the original’s feats involves fighting a guy who beat the crap out of a hero who can move at the speed of light, as well as several other heroes with varied powers. I guess I have to mention that the speed of light hero ran up to the villain in 00:00’00″01 seconds, and was beaten down by said Villain by 00:00’00″02 seconds.

    I don’t know if that helps or anything, but Saitama seemed to have ended his fight with that villain by overpowering the guy and saying that he was bored.

  44. Nobunaga Jin April 7, 2015 at 9:57 pm -      #44

    My apologies. The villain did not beat the crap out of the light speed hero in that time, but he blocked every single of the man’s attacks in that time. Still beat the crap out of the Speedster though.

  45. Rookie April 7, 2015 at 11:43 pm -      #45

    @Nobunaga Jin

    “Okay…but which version of Saitama? ”

    Composite.

  46. TheSorrow April 8, 2015 at 2:07 am -      #46

    I guess I have to mention that the speed of light hero ran up to the villain in 00:00’00″01 seconds, and was beaten down by said Villain by 00:00’00″02 seconds.

    It’s already been mentioned previously.

  47. Nobunaga Jin April 8, 2015 at 2:42 am -      #47

    Okay then. I didn’t need to mention it. I am curious, however, about the BFR. Does superman normally carry the phantom zone projector around?

  48. Limbo Lowk April 8, 2015 at 5:14 am -      #48

    @Nobunaga
    No but he often goes for it when dealing with being his tier that can’t be contained.
    ===
    @Rookie
    Does knockout count as capture? I’m sure once thats over star labs could probably find a way to contain them.

  49. Rookie April 8, 2015 at 8:55 am -      #49

    @Limbo Lowk

    “Does knockout count as capture? ”

    Yes.

  50. Rookie April 11, 2015 at 6:05 pm -      #50

    This is funny:
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123129/2930345-2269550-49.png
    Why can’t writers ever think?
    Oh well more points for superhuman Batman.

  51. Limbo Lowk April 11, 2015 at 6:10 pm -      #51

    Bats had been injected with a new form of venom. So he was legitimately super. Venom apparently is a lot stronger in n52.
    Edit: still a bit of pis involved.

  52. Rookie April 11, 2015 at 6:14 pm -      #52

    @Limbo Lowk

    “Bats had been injected with a new form of venom. So he was legitimately super. Venom apparently is a lot stronger in n52.”

    Batman was fighting against Bane and did not from a backhand hit or other hits. Bane used same Venom. Either Superman durability is a shit or Batman is a superhuman. Because even if you boost Batman’s power by 300% it still not enough to scratch Superman.
    The real reason of course is that writer is an idiot, but feat is a feat, New 52 Batman’s power now clearly superhuman.

  53. Jake_Uzumaki April 11, 2015 at 6:41 pm -      #53

    From the way Batman was talking like a crazy person I think he was ODing on Venom, which does just that. The real feat is his brain not being mush after taking that much venom.
    That said Superman is bad about letting himself get hurt by people that shouldn’t be able to hurt him. Plus it was dark, this Superman seems to take the solar battery part stupidly literal, put him in nighttime with a storm over him + expending his reserves by using his powers + him never going all out on humans whether they have powers or not + Batman apparently ODing on Venom + Plot and you have a perfect storm of Superman not being at full capacity in the comic

  54. Alpha or Omega April 11, 2015 at 6:47 pm -      #54

    And this is how you wrongly use powerscaling.

  55. Limbo Lowk April 11, 2015 at 7:18 pm -      #55

    “Because even if you boost Batman’s power by 300% it still not enough to scratch Superman.”

    I don’t think HE technically scratched him. Think of it this way, whats harder your teeth or the fleshy bit that covers them. When they get bashed together what do you think can cut what?

  56. Numinous One April 11, 2015 at 8:00 pm -      #56

    “I guess I have to mention that the speed of light hero ran up to the villain in 00:00’00″01 seconds, and was beaten down by said Villain by 00:00’00″02 seconds.”

    Ohh, is this where the 1/10000 of a second comes from then.
    That’s not right.
    Hours : Minutes ‘ Seconds ” Centiseconds
    This feat is happening in 1/100th of a second.

    And I have just downgraded a favourite series of mine.
    Well done.

  57. Limbo Lowk April 11, 2015 at 8:16 pm -      #57

    “And I have just downgraded a favorite series of mine.
    Well done.”

    Sucks when you have to do that.

  58. TheSorrow April 11, 2015 at 10:20 pm -      #58

    God dammit I was afraid that might have been the case.

    Ah well, at least Saitama has proven to move at relativistic speeds.

  59. TheSorrow April 11, 2015 at 10:27 pm -      #59

    Ordinarily I look at time in this format 00:00:00 and it struck me as odd that the author would use hours and and minutes as a way to convey just how fast Lightspeed was moving. So I just assumed it was seconds, centiseconds, milliseconds, and so on.

  60. Ragnorke May 3, 2015 at 7:33 am -      #60

    Just wanted to point out that New52 Superman doesn’t have FTL reaction times or combat speed.

    He’s only done it in space in a relatively straight line, and Superman achieves speeds like that by bending space/time around him.
    He can’t do it on a planet.

  61. Rookie May 3, 2015 at 7:36 am -      #61

    @Ragnorke

    “Just wanted to point out that New52 Superman doesn’t have FTL reaction times or combat speed.”

    Then Saitama have a chance IMO. Saitama’s durability feats are similar to Superman’s feats, only Saitama was never hurt by anyone, nor was even close to being hurt so far.

  62. Limbo Lowk May 3, 2015 at 1:52 pm -      #62

    Huh, its a rare occasion when I need to show superman speed feats. Normally he doesn’t have to worry about collateral in matches.

    Speeds in, scan everything, saves Hiro and then batman within the space of A millisecond
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125391/4308780-bcbatman—superman-006-%282014%29-%282-covers%29-%28digital%29-%28nahga-empire%29-03.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125391/4308781-bcbatman—superman-006-%282014%29-%282-covers%29-%28digital%29-%28nahga-empire%29-04.jpg

    Catches a barrage of bullets while passing at superspeed
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125391/4343019-20.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125391/4343020-21.jpg

    From metropolis to Preston to solve a hostage situation
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/12/125391/4306994-all-star-western-027-%282014%29-%28digital%29-%28nahga-empire%29-007.jpg

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