What If…Dante and Alucard Switched Worlds?

What if Dante and Alucard switched worlds

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What if Dante (Devil May Cry) and Alucard (Hellsing) switched worlds?

TFS abridged version of Alucard.

What will happen?

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46 Comments on "What If…Dante and Alucard Switched Worlds?"

  1. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 17, 2015 at 3:56 am -      #1

    The DMCverse learns what fucking the fear turkey looks like.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HVvgfFsU4k

    #TheCrimsonFuckr

  2. pimpmage April 17, 2015 at 4:07 am -      #2

    Alucard got a FP award against dante in the past. This tells me alucard could easily replace dante. But I dunno the other way around. How would dante fare against the likes of Walter?

  3. TheSorrow April 17, 2015 at 6:20 am -      #3

    Hmm I can’t decide which version of Alucard is more sadistic. TFS Alucard is a lot more willing to crack jokes at his opponents torment, while the Ultimate version is more likely to mock them for being weak.

    As for Dante, he’s too much of a Mary Sue character for me to think of anything entertaining about what he would do.

  4. wingedlion April 17, 2015 at 8:28 am -      #4

    “This tells me alucard could easily replace dante.”

    Eh… it doesn’t necessarily work that way. Characters can beat other characters for entirely different reasons based on their unique abilities.
    That being said, is there any way that Alucard can take on Mundus? I don’t recall him being able to fly, so he could just end up falling in an shadowy abyss.

    “How would dante fare against the likes of Walter?”

    He should be alright by simply using quicksilver. I don’t recall Walter or anyone in Hellsing for that matter having any resistances against time manipulation.

  5. Amm0vamp1r3 April 17, 2015 at 9:45 am -      #5

    Dante’s mother would have to explain how she gave birth to a half demon and a vampire for one

    But jokes aside. They should be fine in each other’s worlds no one in Hellsing should be too difficult for Dante to handle but the story would be difference because Seras would not become a vampire, which would probably lead to the death of integra Hellsing

    As for Alucard he would be dropped in around DmC 3 correct (this isn’t the to reboot DmC right?) which from what I remember had nothing that would be too difficulty for Alucard but he would gain some nifty powers via drinking the blood of his fallen enemies. The only problem would be that horse but it’s only a slow not a time stop and since Alucard can teleport he should be fine. Then he uses the powers he’s gained from there to progress through DMC and finally kill everything that needs killing

    Well that’s how i see it going down

  6. Friendlysociopath April 17, 2015 at 10:05 am -      #6

    TFS Alucard? Oh lord, Lady and Trish are in for something hilarious then.
    Alucard shouldn’t have an issue with just about anything in Dante’s world- with the exception of Mundus. Although without an amulet Vergil and him are never going to meet… and Vergil will never meed Mundus… curse that plot for requiring Dante so much!

    Dante… pretty sure he’d be okay in Alucard’s world- at least until the vampire army. Dante doesn’t get the “lol fuck your army” card that Alucard can pull.

  7. Limbo Lowk April 17, 2015 at 3:55 pm -      #7

    Dante would actually be able to get a job that continually pays for his pizza and strawberry sundae addiction.

    Nero and every other hero Dante has worked with would quit becasue as funny as TFS alucard is I doubt anybody could actually stand working alongside him unless forced to. Those poor demon and cultist.

  8. wingedlion April 17, 2015 at 4:12 pm -      #8

    “curse that plot for requiring Dante so much!”

    Speaking of plot requirements, iirc the entire point of Millenium’s goal was to finally kill Alucard. What are they going to do now that he’s gone? I don’t recall them having any other reason for doing the things they did besides wanting Alucard dead.

  9. Chuck inglish April 18, 2015 at 11:30 am -      #9

    Dante murders everyone just as alucard did. Hell, he even murders alucard

  10. Alpha or Omega April 18, 2015 at 3:49 pm -      #10

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuD2ZJ2yOxE
    LoL
    Trollucard annoys Vergil a lot, though Vergil and Trollucard could gain respect for each other after trading blows.
    I could see Trollucard and Vergil give each other lethal blows, but not outright kill each other.
    Vergil would be annoyed, yes, but he might respect Alucard the same way he respects Dante.
    Despite not looking like it, Vergil is able to make quips or witty lines when Dante makes quips or witty lines with/against Vergil.
    He can return some lines back against Alucard.
    /
    DMC3 Doesn’t occur, which in turn, makes sure DMC1 not occur as easily, which kinda makes sure that DMC4 doesn’t happen easily.
    Trish won’t be created, Trollucard and Vergil take out Mundus and TheSavior in case it ever happens for some odd reason
    /
    In case DMC4 happens.
    Nero would be more annoyed at Trollucard than Dante since TFS Alucard is more troll than Dante.
    Nero wouldn’t be able to put up with his and may blow off Trollucard’s head.
    Maybe Trollucard may make some quips about his arm and his girlfriend which would get Nero angry a lot.
    Not sure if Nero would respect Trollucard.
    Maybe it would have taken longer than it did in DMC4 with Dante.
    /
    Lady would try to kill him 24/7 because of his attitude.
    Alucard would give her so much sexual harassment.
    Not sure if she would change her view of demons without Dante.
    /
    Basically, Deadpool is to the Marvel universe the same way Trollucard is to the Devil May Cry universe.
    /
    Dante might be hired by Hellsing.
    Though, not sure what would happen from there.
    Uh, I do know that 1/5 of the money they earn/Integra’s fortune would go to pizza.
    /
    TFS Integra would give Dante a lot of complaints about the pizza.
    /
    TFS Seras Victoria would be dead without Alucard…Maybe Dante would save her before she gets majorly wounded.
    She won’t be a vampire though, which kinda makes her unimportant.
    /
    Hmm, Millenium.
    I’m pretty sure that the crazy vampire Nazis would still attack the world due to being crazy vampire Nazis. Nevermind the TFS fat dude just wants to invade for the lols.
    Other than that, I’m pretty sure Dante would survive. He can hold his own against everyone if not beat some of them.
    Schrodinger is going to be a problem tho.

  11. Riverlia April 19, 2015 at 6:46 am -      #11

    Alucard and Dante himself should do rather well. The same cannot be said about other characters.
    They both have the power to survive anything the other verse throw at them, but not the personality/tool needed to save other. For example, Alucard simply won’t die, but he’s not going to help people like Trish or Lady, and cannot get the power of Sparda/Trish to seal Mundus. This most likely result in the world going to hell spectacularly.
    —-
    Similarly, I doubt Dante can split into a whole army to clean up the vampire Nazies. Not to mention Seras remaining human (At least Dante should be able to save her with time stop) mean they lost a powerful combatant, and it’s hard to tell how various battle she was involved in will turn out.

  12. Chuck inglish April 19, 2015 at 3:08 pm -      #12

    “Similarly, I doubt Dante can split into a whole army to clean up the vampire Nazies. Not to mention Seras remaining human (At least Dante should be able to save her with time stop) mean they lost a powerful combatant, and it’s hard to tell how various battle she was involved in will turn out.”
    ====
    How can he not? Unlimited ammo and an arsenal of destructive weapons and various time controlling powers and Dante is more than capable of tearing through the nazi army
    ==

  13. pimpmage April 19, 2015 at 3:16 pm -      #13

    There are tons of casual bullet timers that Alucard beats beats single handedly… Literally. He only goes all out maybe once in the series. The likes of dandy man, the elder Valentine brother, Walter, and the captain could easily give dante trouble.

  14. Chuck inglish April 19, 2015 at 3:40 pm -      #14

    “Literally. He only goes all out maybe once in the series.”
    ===
    Same could be said about Dante
    ==
    ” The likes of dandy man, the elder Valentine brother, Walter, and the captain could easily give dante trouble.”
    ===
    No, I don’t see any of them even registering as even a threat to Dante. Hell, even Nero one shots them. Their feats just don’t measure up to be even considered a threat to Dante

  15. pimpmage April 19, 2015 at 3:56 pm -      #15

    I sense potential wank here… Maybe you should show us his feats. Also, keep in mind, Alucard won a FPA against dante already.

  16. Chuck inglish April 19, 2015 at 4:11 pm -      #16

    ” Maybe you should show us his feats.”
    ===
    Dante’s respect thread
    www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=464182&pagenumber=14
    ===
    “Alucard won a FPA against dante already.”
    ===
    FPA award means nothing damte outclasses. Alucard only won because of his immortality schrodinger powers

  17. pimpmage April 19, 2015 at 4:16 pm -      #17

    You realize regenerating
    Powers don’t win matches right? Alucard must have had to actually beat dante 9 times out of 10 to get the fpa award.. Which means dante most definitely does not outclass Alucard. I will check the respect thread out some time tonight.

  18. Chuck inglish April 19, 2015 at 4:21 pm -      #18

    “You realize regenerating
    Powers don’t win matches right?””
    ===
    Outlasting the opponent does though which is why even wolverine was able to get an fp award against dante

  19. pimpmage April 19, 2015 at 4:23 pm -      #19

    Was that the case with that Alucard vs dante match though? I might skim through it later also.

  20. Chuck inglish April 19, 2015 at 4:37 pm -      #20

    “Was that the case with that Alucard vs dante match though?.”
    ===
    Yes

  21. pimpmage April 19, 2015 at 5:03 pm -      #21

    Well, I’m gonna reread it anyway. So there is no point in lying.

  22. pimpmage April 19, 2015 at 7:33 pm -      #22

    “Chuck inglish April 22, 2012 at 12:55 pm – #1523
    I just found a feat for alucard that puts his reactions at Mach 40+ so now I agree that regualr alucard could beat Dante.”

    It seems even you changed your mind after people got tired of your debating. Remember rip van? She is one opponent dante would have to face to fill alucard’s shoes. As YOU have calced, though I haven’t seen anyone else double check your work yet, seems to put dante to shame.

    “Chuck inglish April 22, 2012 at 1:02 pm – #1526
    Here’s the calcs
    In several panels (www.mangareader.net/205-13756-14/hellsing/chapter-31.html) the bullet is shown to circle around the probably 20+ meters long airplane.
    Now, given the fact that the airplane is not catching up to the lower parts of the “string” while diving down at Mach 2.8, and the trail is actually passing by, turning and flying past the airplane again, we’ll have to pick what timeframe we’re using for the comparison.
    Given the page I linked, circling the plane in an average radius of about 20 meters about 4 times seems possible before the plane moves 1 meter.
    Roughly mach 3 = 1000 meters per second, so it would take the aircraft 0.001 seconds to cover this distance.
    2 * PI * 20 times 4 = ~500 meters
    Which leads to 500,000 meters per second.
    That’s a ridiculous number though so I’ll change it up to low end, with 10 meters instead of 1 meter and one circulation instead of 4, which is definitely far below what we’re seeing on panel.
    That gives us 12500 meters per second, or over mach 40. Lowest low of the lowest ends.”

  23. Friendlysociopath April 19, 2015 at 8:41 pm -      #23

    Alucard with Schrodinger is only a few small steps from Godhood. He could just appear in Dante’s memories and rip them apart- rendering Dante comatose or worse.

    And how would Dante outlast Alucard? Dante ages, Alucard doesn’t; and Alucard’s regen is superior by miles.

    I see the girl who does mental tricks as being a slight issue for Dante; Walter might pose a decent problem as well if I remember that right.

  24. TheSorrow April 19, 2015 at 8:54 pm -      #24

    We’ve been over this more times than I care to count with Chuck, but he is a hardcore fanboy. So trying to appeal to any sense of logic when DMC is a subject at all is futile. You will be here all week long trying to convince him.

  25. Alpha or Omega April 19, 2015 at 8:55 pm -      #25

    Some of those in the respect thread were brought into this site.
    -Dante didn’t hit blitz.
    -Dante’s hand is too small to produce heat from drag and his fist is different than a railgun anyway(note that even if that was true, he should have hit the ground in less amount of time)
    -The bullet from Lady penetrated him as seen from the blood in his head and the blood he wiped on the wall.
    -The rainfall one was discussed. There are two scenes that show it differently.
    -The Savior feat is legit though.
    /
    Now, there others that weren’t mentioned or addressed here. Maybe. I don’t remember all of the Dante debates.
    -The one where Dante and Lady have a shoot off. That looks fine, well, the reaction time of 0.00025 seconds seems fine. I don’t know he got a melee speed of mach 12 when he wasn’t moving close to 400 m/s, let alone 4083 m/s.
    If that wasn’t it, I don’t know how he got reaction time of 0.00025 seconds to make mach 12 “melee speed”
    -The one where he says that he destroys a roof without touching it. IIRC, it was from the anime and the demon was touching the roof. Nevermind that if the roof was destroyed without the demon touching the roof, light would be shining down from outside. Though, the Savior feat should make him able to do that anyway.
    -Some of the other calcs I cannot judge since its from anime, and I cannot watch since I’m a few months young under the requirement. Goddang it. Youtube plz.
    /
    This one has nothing to do with Dante, but Vergil.
    He assumes that the monsters have a speed of 15m/s and also assumes that the scene is slowed down. Only one part where he pulls out his sword was slowed down and it went back to normal speed. The monsters weren’t even going 15m/s.
    /
    This one has nothing to do with Dante.
    The one with Nero where he says the gun shoots bullets with speeds at 600-630 m/s.
    He got those figures from a S&W so it’s already an assumption that it’s going at those speeds.
    Nevermind that on Rahl vs Ryu Hayabusa vs Raiden vs Dante, I corrected and calculated those bullets to be mach 1.01 from a guy who miscalculated those bullets to be mach 10.
    /
    Though, some of it looks legit though.

  26. wingedlion April 19, 2015 at 9:13 pm -      #26

    “There are tons of casual bullet timers that Alucard beats beats single handedly… Literally. He only goes all out maybe once in the series. The likes of dandy man, the elder Valentine brother, Walter, and the captain could easily give dante trouble.”

    None of these people have an answer to Quicksilver. That’s not to mention the fact that Dante can duplicate himself, meaning they would potentially have to fight two of him. Then there’s the fact that Dante’s bullets are powerful enough to blow up large monsters, so they probably wouldn’t be able to block his bullets.
    So they shouldn’t be a problem.

  27. Alpha or Omega April 19, 2015 at 9:35 pm -      #27

    Guys, this is a what-if, not a versus.
    /
    “None of these people have an answer to Quicksilver.”
    /
    While that is true, this is a what if. Not a vs match.
    Dante doesn’t know where the crazy vampire nazis are and neither did Alucard.
    The nazis aren’t going to face Dante head on. In fact, most of them aren’t going to face Dante. They are going to distract Dante with Rip Van Wrinkle on the carrier ship and while he’s stuck on the ship, the nazis are going to invade London.
    /
    Without Seras being vampirized, Hellsing HQ would be killed by the attack of nazis.
    I’m not sure Integra would be saved with out Seras.
    This means Dante would have to do more work than Alucard did.
    /
    Sure, Dante would still be alive, but the stuff that happened during Hellsing would still be as devastating to the world , if not more devastating.

  28. wingedlion April 19, 2015 at 9:41 pm -      #28

    @AoO
    “While that is true, this is a what if. Not a vs match.”

    Oh no i understand that. I was just responding to Pimpmage’s response about the difficulty Dante would have with his opponents.
    His actual actions in Hellsing are a completely different matter entirely.

    EDIT: Also, does anyone know how to tell what matches are coming up in the future?

  29. Limbo Lowk April 19, 2015 at 9:51 pm -      #29

    “Dante with Rip Van Wrinkle on the carrier ship and while he’s stuck on the ship, the nazis are going to invade London.”

    Why would he stuck on the ship? Dante can fly.

  30. Alpha or Omega April 19, 2015 at 9:55 pm -      #30

    “Why would he stuck on the ship? Dante can fly.”
    /
    Only with devil trigger though.
    Kinda wasteful.
    Ehh, that still leaves Hellsing being destroyed. He may or may not be able to save Integra.

  31. Friendlysociopath April 19, 2015 at 9:58 pm -      #31

    Why would he stuck on the ship? Dante can fly

    …Any feats of him doing that for a long distance at a high speed? I sure as hell do not remember Dante ever flying with any large amount of speed.

  32. Limbo Lowk April 19, 2015 at 10:31 pm -      #32

    Only with devil trigger though.
    Kinda wasteful.
    ===
    “Any feats of him doing that for a long distance at a high speed?”

    the mundus fight did show he could fly long distance. Was superfast or superslow so at least he wouldn’t be stuck.

  33. Limbo Lowk April 19, 2015 at 11:00 pm -      #33

    My stuff just keep on deleting itself for some reason.

    “Only with devil trigger though.
    Kinda wasteful.”

    Depends on the situation. And I doubt he’s going to want to sit in the middle of the ocean for long.
    ===
    Also How fast could alucard run. Shouldn’t he or dante be capable of running across the water at highspeeds?

  34. wingedlion April 19, 2015 at 11:40 pm -      #34

    There’s also this scene (at 18:29).

  35. Alpha or Omega April 20, 2015 at 12:04 am -      #35

    @Lowk
    “Depends on the situation. And I doubt he’s going to want to sit in the middle of the ocean for long.”
    /
    If he can make it, sure, just without Devil Trigger, it’s going to be harder.
    /
    “Also How fast could alucard run. Shouldn’t he or dante be capable of running across the water at highspeeds?”
    /
    I think that depends on the fiction you’re in or if that’s an ability you have.

  36. pimpmage April 20, 2015 at 12:10 am -      #36

    “Depends on the situation. And I doubt he’s going to want to sit in the middle of the ocean for long.”

    Dante would have never made it to that ship to begin with. Rip van was aboard, shooting down jet fighters and missiles. She even shot down and pierced that fighter alucard was piloting. The anime mentioned it going mach 10. That ship was hit more than a dozen times through and through with a single bullet from rip. Dante will not survive that.

  37. pimpmage April 20, 2015 at 12:25 am -      #37

    “Also How fast could alucard run.”

    Alucard can fly. Though I haven’t seen a top speed. In the first or second episode, he casually floats up the the roof of a second story house to mentor whatserface on how to aim through a vampire’s eyes. It shows him being able to levitate, but heck, he seems to not care for physics in the slightest. In that episode where he fights the dandy man, he is standing on a wall, then just walks up the wall to the top of the apartment building, maybe a dozen stories up.

  38. wingedlion April 20, 2015 at 12:26 am -      #38

    “The anime mentioned it going mach 10.”

    I don’t recall this. Can you show me?
    Also, is there any actual proof that it is?
    Furthermore, did the manga say it?
    Finally, Dante could just simply use Quicksilver to slow the bullet down.

  39. pimpmage April 20, 2015 at 12:50 am -      #39

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=90nPfR_AFpQ

    1:30 for the ship speed mention. The ship in question is has a real world equivalent. Though classified, its supposed to go mach 3+.

    “Furthermore, did the manga say it?”

    Manga says mach 2.8. Though some other guy is saying mach 3 when its on the edge of the stratosphere. A few pages later, the plane takes a nose dive straight towards the carrier. If anything, a nosedive from an altitude of 85000(?) would make the ship travel even faster.

    Here are the manga scans of the bullet in action. Keep a close eye on the white lines around the ship moving at mach 3 while still flying around the ship several times over in each panel. It flies through the ship dozens of times as it keeps up.

    i18.mangareader.net/hellsing/31/hellsing-318136.jpg
    i34.mangareader.net/hellsing/31/hellsing-318137.jpg
    i9.mangareader.net/hellsing/31/hellsing-318138.jpg

  40. pimpmage April 20, 2015 at 12:54 am -      #40

    As for how the anime portrays the bullet being shot, here it is:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=90nPfR_AFpQ
    2:46-3:00

  41. wingedlion April 20, 2015 at 8:17 am -      #41

    @Pimpmage
    Mach 2 is a far cry from mach 10, though it’s still impressive.
    Still, as i said earlier, why can’t Dante just use Quicksilver to slow the bullets down?
    Dante can also protect himself from the bullet by simply using his Dreadnaught form.

  42. pimpmage April 20, 2015 at 2:02 pm -      #42

    The bullet is going much faster than mach 3… Just keeping up with the plane means it’s going that fast. But the bullet is flying circles around the plane and flying through it several times a second.

  43. Alpha or Omega April 20, 2015 at 3:52 pm -      #43

    @pimpmage.
    That calculation doesn’t feel right.
    Its basing it on the trail the bullet makes, but it’s in a manga so the line could simply could mean the motion. I don’t feel comfortable with that calc, but its a manga, so I could be wrong.
    /
    wingedlion is still right abut quicksilver though.
    It makes the user go as fast as lightning thanks to a combination of time slow and speeding up.
    “Time-controlling style in which the player can move at lightning quick speeds.”
    Of course, you can argue that “lightning quick speeds” is just a hyperbole as that’s what it;s usually used as. I don’t remember the stance on it though.
    If Dante with quicksilver goes at those speeds, the “mach 10″ bullets will look slow.

  44. pimpmage April 20, 2015 at 4:19 pm -      #44

    Honestly, lightning quick is one of the most overused hyperbole ever. 40k uses them all the time, but people like xornell dismiss them every time unless showings actually back then up. Like the horus vs geom fight. Author mentions supernovas of energy between the clashing pair. Ship and surrounding space is still intact regardless.

  45. wingedlion April 20, 2015 at 7:44 pm -      #45

    “Of course, you can argue that “lightning quick speeds” is just a hyperbole as that’s what it;s usually used as. I don’t remember the stance on it though.”

    Not gonna lie, that does sound like a hyperbole.
    With that being said though, Tarbel did a calc on how much Quicksilver slows time down, and the result was that it made time 310 times slower. Here it is:

    “Tarbel August 16, 2012 at 10:24 am – #162
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItTtRm6sZks

    Rocks are about 50 feet high.
    They drop to Dante in about 2 seconds
    according to this:
    www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/airplane/mofall.html
    that sounds about right.

    So to calculate its speed when it drops just over Dante’s head:
    50 feet – 6 feet (Dante height) = 44 feet.
    44 feet = 12.192 meters

    Formula for finding time:
    X(distance) = .5 * a * t^2
    =
    sqrt ( 2X/a ) = t
    2*12.192 = 24.384
    24.384/9.81 =
    2.485626911314984709480122324159
    sqrt of answer = 1.5765871086987184
    *An estimate based off the height of the rocks, differs from video’s time slightly*
    It takes 1.58 seconds for the rocks to fall to Dante’s head.

    V = a * t
    9.81 * 1.58 = 15.4998
    Rocks were at 15.5 m/s while over Dante’s head.

    To make the lowest end estimate possible, I’ll say the rocks were falling at 5 cm per second after quicksilver was activated. It’s actually much closer to 2 cm per second.
    15.5 m/s changed to .05 m/s
    =
    310

    Now for 2 cm per second.
    15.5 m/s changed to .02 m/s
    =
    775


    Lowest end speed decrease from Dante’s quicksilver = 310X slower
    Middle = 775X slower
    Max = 1650X slower

    Of course if you use the time it took the rocks to fall from the video (2-3 seconds) this time slow would be much more, around 2000-3000X slower.
    This proves that Dante is indeed apparently hypersonic when quicksilver is in use, although it’s actually a limited radius time slow.”

  46. TheSorrow April 21, 2015 at 5:24 am -      #46

    I’m glad at least someone had the honesty to include the part about Quicksilver only having a limited radius. I was afraid I’d have to bring that part up again.

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