Angela Vs She-Thor

Angela Vs She-Thor

Suggested by CH1C4N0444

Angela (first time here) will go up agaginst She-Thor, first time here (Marvel).

Scenario: Thor has been looking for the Odinson to help him in his battle against the Frost Giants. In her search she finds the Odinson lies beaten and broken at Angela’s feat. Not knowing that this is Malikeith’s trickery at work she decides to strike at Angela in fury. At the same time Angela sees Odin and attacks him for having her banished from Heven.

Who will win this battle of the goddesses?

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133 Comments on "Angela Vs She-Thor"

  1. Rookie April 12, 2015 at 1:06 am -      #1

    I think that new Thor will win. If I remeber right, she was stated to be better at everything and more powerful than original Thor.

  2. Nsl98 April 12, 2015 at 1:16 am -      #2

    Angela fights the GotG:
    m.imgur.com/a/bnVWC

    Blitzing Soldiers:
    m.imgur.com/a/QvbdF

    She-Thor should still be packing a lot of firepower though. “All the power of Thor” and all that jazz.

  3. Limbo Lowk April 12, 2015 at 1:39 am -      #3

    Wonder Woman solos.
    ===
    ” If I remeber right, she was stated to be better at everything and more powerful than original Thor.”

    Pretty sure she just had better control.

  4. Jake_Uzumaki April 12, 2015 at 1:40 am -      #4

    she’s more skilled with Mjolnir somehow but we haven’t seen anything to say she’s more powerful.

  5. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 12, 2015 at 2:34 am -      #5

    Sweet, this got posted! Thanks Rookie!

  6. TheSorrow April 12, 2015 at 2:39 am -      #6

    I will never get why they call her Thor, it’s not really a title. You would think they would be creative enough to give her an original name.

  7. Limbo Lowk April 12, 2015 at 3:23 am -      #7

    “I will never get why they call her Thor, it’s not really a title.”

    Didn’t they call other stand-ins for Thor, Thor? At least until they eventually got their own names later?
    ===
    “You would think they would be creative enough to give her an original name.”

    He asked of the people who came up with such gems as She-Hulk and Thor Girl.
    The way I see it she needed a secret identity and we do kind of use names of gods or other things in mythology as code names for stuff. In this case myth just happens to be real for them.

  8. Karen Starr April 12, 2015 at 3:40 am -      #8

    Thor also gave her the right to use the name.

  9. TheSorrow April 12, 2015 at 4:21 am -      #9

    I’m not really talking about plot wise though, I’m just saying the creators dropped the ball on what could have been a more distinct character. As for She-Hulk, that can be considered a title merely because it describes what they are. Which is a hulk.

  10. Jake_Uzumaki April 12, 2015 at 9:25 am -      #10

    There’s a reason the Thor corps was a thing though, all Thor stand ins get called Thor

  11. Ragnorke April 12, 2015 at 12:37 pm -      #11

    ” I’m just saying the creators dropped the ball on what could have been a more distinct character. ”

    It was a publicity stunt.
    They were advertising that Thor is now a chick, and it was spreading like wild fire all over the internet.
    Everyone that had never touched a comic before in their lives suddenly began talking about it.
    Granted most of those people were stupid and thought Thor Odinson literally became a woman… *facepalm*

    If they introduced her as a distinct character with a distinct name, she wouldn’t have grasped the attention that she did.
    Many characters have wielding Mjolnir before, but none of them made the news like “She Thor”.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Marvel purposely publicized it in a way to make non-comic readers think Thor Odinson became a chick.
    There was quite a bit of propaganda surrounding it.
    And ya know.. There’s no such thing as bad publicity blah blah blah

  12. TheSorrow April 12, 2015 at 1:30 pm -      #12

    Oh I’ve seen the controversy. Mainly revolving around particular page involving a villain’s remark on feminism. That was just full of cringe.

  13. Epicazeroth April 12, 2015 at 1:37 pm -      #13

    @Sorrow: What, when Absorbing Man told her off? He did have a point, which I won’t get into here (at least not unless I can make a longer post that has more relevant stuff).

  14. TheSorrow April 12, 2015 at 1:58 pm -      #14

    Oh I’m sure he did, but Marvel was trying to appease feminists by having his jaw broken over the remark.

  15. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 12, 2015 at 3:30 pm -      #15

    “Wonder Woman solos.”

    Think I might’ve suggested a match between her and Supergirl against these too.
    =
    “I will never get why they call her Thor,”

    Same reason Donald Blake, Eric Masterson, Dargo Ktor, and Cecil McAdams have all been known as Thor, despite being mere mortals.
    =
    ” it’s not really a title.”

    While I agree, Marvel seems to be handling it as if it is, and making Thor treat it as one as well.
    =
    “Granted most of those people were stupid and thought Thor Odinson literally became a woman…”

    Thor Odinsdottir, has a nice ring to it… *vomits* No, no it doesn’t.
    =
    Speaking of Thor, him and Hyperion have some of the most luscious locks right nao.

    1.bp.blogspot.com/-bmZeGwg0lq4/VRMCyofuJXI/AAAAAAAJGxg/npII3bqUFjk/s1600/p20_22%2Bcopy.jpg

    Totes jelly. Although, I like the look he’s been sporting in Angela and Thor’s current series a bit more than that… Just a bit.

    2.bp.blogspot.com/-unnio_madvo/VSVxaJ8W1ZI/AAAAAAAKJ24/5rHsZquaGXs/s1600/p8_12%2Bcopy.jpg

    2.bp.blogspot.com/-DbD6a29ggNU/VMucN-ceJVI/AAAAAAAHu1M/n6Zs2wC5uwE/s1600/p39_12%2Bcopy.jpg

    Gotta love them luscious locks man.

  16. Ragnorke April 12, 2015 at 4:06 pm -      #16

    “Speaking of Thor, him and Hyperion have some of the most luscious locks right nao”

    Yea that page specifically was incredible. :’)

  17. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 12, 2015 at 4:11 pm -      #17

    @Rag That’s why I picked it 😉 Beards are great n all, especially when they’re as glorious as the one’s those two are sporting, but IMO it’s all about the luscious locks.

    What’s your opinion on the match? Before I derail my own match any further lol.

  18. Aelfinn April 12, 2015 at 4:15 pm -      #18

    “Oh I’m sure he did, but Marvel was trying to appease feminists by having his jaw broken over the remark.”

    I just read that comic page. I agree, that was heavy-handed as fuck. However, Absorbing Man didn’t really have a point besides “Thor shouldn’t be a girl”, and….
    you know what, fuck it. I’m not going to change anyone’s mind and BankGambling doesn’t need another feminist debate.
    =
    =
    Anyway, I…think Thor takes this. There is the whole problem with power-scaling, but what I’ve seen of Angela doesn’t really put her past anything we shouldn’t expect of Thor.

  19. Rookie April 12, 2015 at 4:23 pm -      #19

    @Aelfinn

    “Anyway, I…think Thor takes this. There is the whole problem with power-scaling, but what I’ve seen of Angela doesn’t really put her past anything we shouldn’t expect of Thor.”

    But Angela managed to beat Thor once:

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  20. Aelfinn April 12, 2015 at 4:31 pm -      #20

    “But Angela managed to beat Thor once:”

    Oh…well then. That changes a lot. Is there any alternate explanation for this, or can an argument for PIS be made? Even if she fights evenly with Thor at some other point, the Thor in this fight is inexperienced with her powers. Unless something new comes up, I might have to reverse my position.

  21. Rookie April 12, 2015 at 4:36 pm -      #21

    @Aelfinn

    “Is there any alternate explanation for this, or can an argument for PIS be made?”

    Apparently she speedblitzed him during entire fight (which is weird, since she should’t even be even close to lighting timing, judging by her previous feats, much less FTL) and he wasn’t even able to land a hit on her. In his next fight against her he did everything he could in order not to fight her in melee and instead barely managed to beat her with long-range lighting.
    She got major upgrade in stats thanks to that fight against Thor.
    Dunno if she got any lowball feats recently, since this fight against Thor was not that long ago.

  22. Karen Starr April 12, 2015 at 4:53 pm -      #22

    The absorbing man thing I don’t think was a feminism thing, more a jab at everyone that proceeded to bitch and moan about Thor being female. Of course that is my take on it,a nd everyone is going to see it in their own way.

  23. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 12, 2015 at 4:56 pm -      #23

    ” Is there any alternate explanation for this, or can an argument for PIS be made?”

    She hasn’t really had any feats of her own besides “Angela fought X” so I wouldn’t say so.
    =
    ” Even if she fights evenly with Thor at some other point, the Thor in this fight is inexperienced with her powers.”

    Like Jake and Rookie already said, she’s better at them than Thor was, for reasons.
    =
    “Apparently she speedblitzed him during entire fight”

    IIRC Thor was tortured and starved for days beforehand.
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    “Dunno if she got any lowball feats recently, since this fight against Thor was not that long ago.”

    Angela vs Odinson(which is how I’ll refer to him for now to avoid confusion between him and Fem Thor)happened again in Angela’s last comic(came out last week). It didn’t really end with a win, but they were fighting evenly in it.

  24. Aelfinn April 12, 2015 at 5:07 pm -      #24

    “Apparently she speedblitzed him during entire fight (which is weird, since she should’t even be even close to lighting timing, judging by her previous feats, much less FTL)”

    Thor’s only gone FTL when he throws his hammer in a straight line, and only when he needs to cross inter-planetary distances, so it makes sense in that way. He’s got a few low-ball showings himself (for example, Captain America says that Thor has bad reaction times).
    =
    “Like Jake and Rookie already said, she’s better at them than Thor was, for reasons.”

    Hmmm, I’m dumb.

  25. Karen Starr April 12, 2015 at 5:19 pm -      #25

    It’s more that the hammer seems to behave and do things differently with her. Like she does things with the hammer that Odinson never has. Which the writer himself said would happen in interviews, she definitely has a natural affinity with her powers though, but I feel like part of that is the hammer itself seems to be aiding her in how best to do things. I could be reading too much into some of her dialogue though.

  26. Ragnorke April 12, 2015 at 5:25 pm -      #26

    She Thor broke an adamantium enchanted door did she not?
    Thors never broken adamantium AFAIK, and i know he has tried to before.
    Thor being a dude that can shake stars.

    The Angela fight doesn’t give us much in terms of Angelas power… But it does tell us she’s skilled & fast enough to beat a Thor who isn’t really going all out.

    I’m still team She Thor.
    Feats > Fights imo.
    Too many people have beaten Thor, but not many of them have feats above him.
    Angela hasn’t done too many impressive things aside from that fight.

  27. TheSorrow April 12, 2015 at 5:32 pm -      #27

    The absorbing man thing I don’t think was a feminism thing, more a jab at everyone that proceeded to bitch and moan about Thor being female.

    He flat out said “Feminists are ruining everything”. I mean you can’t any less subtle than that unless they had Absorbing Man make a “women belong in the kitchen” joke.

  28. Aelfinn April 12, 2015 at 5:42 pm -      #28

    “She Thor broke an adamantium enchanted door did she not?
    Thors never broken adamantium AFAIK, and i know he has tried to before.
    Thor being a dude that can shake stars.”


    Yeah, but the Hulk generally fucks around with adamantium even though he’s also generally shown as equal to (if not weaker) than Thor. Adamantium scaling probably isn’t for the best.

  29. Jake_Uzumaki April 12, 2015 at 5:57 pm -      #29

    @Ragnorke
    she didn’t break it, she peeled it open, and it was Vibranium plated with Adamantium, and we don’t know which Adamantium it was. Marvel is really bad about just saying Adamantium and then later on saying “no it was something less than real adamantium”

    Angela’s first fight with Thor was after he was exhausted from trashing Heven and getting blasted by magic energy shooting tanks. And the second fight where he blasted her with lightning repeatedly was after being strung up starved and torture interrogated…..and is actually impressive on his part since he pulled a storm into a dimension that didn’t even know what rain was and blew up a huge building with lightning. Pretty impressive for being strung up in a dungeon for days and without his hammer.

    In Angela’s most recent issue Thor with just Jarnbjorn was matching her…though its arguable both were pulling their punches since they were fighting over their baby sister.

  30. Jake_Uzumaki April 12, 2015 at 5:59 pm -      #30

    “Yeah, but the Hulk generally fucks around with adamantium”

    Only recent incident is highly questionable, and pretty much any old showings for both him and Thor both were retconned to lesser forms of adamantium, Thor has snapped cables of “adamantium” Hulk crushed a statue of “adamantium”
    all later retconned to secondary adamantium.

  31. Jake_Uzumaki April 12, 2015 at 6:09 pm -      #31

    Fem-Thor vs Thor, they are pretty much evenly matched and the fight is comparable to Angela’s latest duel with Thor though I think the Thor’s were swinging a little harder.

    4.bp.blogspot.com/-1LDJL_9WYDg/VMucU6vhwkI/AAAAAAAHu3E/B9xUiMcLvyU/s1600/p39_7%2Bcopy.jpg
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    1.bp.blogspot.com/-eRoEjEtV0u0/VMucM-63BYI/AAAAAAAHu08/-rUtsY3cL1g/s1600/p39_10%2Bcopy.jpg

    And next issue she’s going to fight the Destroyer powered by Cul Borson brother of Odin.

  32. Jake_Uzumaki April 12, 2015 at 6:13 pm -      #32

    is frozen and eaten by a Frost giant and blows up his head from the inside with her Spiral lightning and trashes his buddies with a chunk of his skull, looks like part of his jaw
    2.bp.blogspot.com/-xacXgWuEK4o/VIpzfHQxzSI/AAAAAAAGba8/owbxPG6iIT8/s1600/p54_6%2Bcopy.jpg
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  33. Ragnorke April 12, 2015 at 6:20 pm -      #33

    @Aelfinn
    “Yeah, but the Hulk generally fucks around with adamantium”

    Does he…?
    Genuine question, caus i don’t think he’s ever done more than dent it.

    @Jake
    ” and it was Vibranium plated with Adamantium”

    Isn’t Vibranium > Adamantium?
    Cap’s shield is Vibranium isn’t it, and that consistently blocks Thors hits.

    “Only recent incident is highly questionable, ”

    Ah right, the Ultron one right?
    It was an old none-functioning Ultron, and he broke off an arm from one of the joints.
    Imagine 2 different pieces of Adamantium glued together, hulk basically broke off the glue.
    Granted the joint itself COULD have been adamantium too, but it would be a relatively small piece.

  34. Jake_Uzumaki April 12, 2015 at 6:23 pm -      #34

    breaking a hole through the floor of Aggers flying fortress
    1.bp.blogspot.com/-UAa-K6_SwSA/VIpzZcBMd_I/AAAAAAAGbZ0/MbLnF8ngzC0/s1600/p54_14%2Bcopy.jpg
    4.bp.blogspot.com/-p_uM5deB2Lc/VIpzaNrHmOI/AAAAAAAGbZs/YEicKXb35ns/s1600/p54_15%2Bcopy.jpg

    The door feat
    2.bp.blogspot.com/-pgdgngmyTto/VGTH-29hr4I/AAAAAAAF6Tc/t01lAMACpiU/s1600/p29_17.jpg
    “these walls have a vibranium core with adamantium plating”

    1.bp.blogspot.com/-G_wgY1vhUPs/VIpzbHyJDJI/AAAAAAAGbZ4/WVY5q1lCL54/s1600/p54_16%2Bcopy.jpg
    4.bp.blogspot.com/-I8jEB5w8voA/VIpzbtOu_CI/AAAAAAAGbaE/Y6uXfKRxjWY/s1600/p54_17%2Bcopy.jpg

  35. Jake_Uzumaki April 12, 2015 at 6:30 pm -      #35

    Vibranium isn’t as durable as Adamantium by itself, Caps shield is Vibranium+Steel+a mystery metal that never has been revealed.
    and while it consistently blocks Thor’s hits….
    there was that time Thor went a little crazy
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    he did dent the hell out of it compared to what most people do with it, Odinforce Thor yes but hard to say how much that boosted his physical strength sadly.

    “Ah right, the Ultron one right?”

    yeah that one, people say it was him breaking adamantium but Ultron notoriously doesn’t use adamantium for his interior parts because its too rigid a metal for the interior, either that or he uses a molecular destabilizer on the interior parts and sometimes a combination.
    Plus at times Doc Green seems like he’s one of the weaker forms of Hulk..

  36. Jake_Uzumaki April 12, 2015 at 6:33 pm -      #36

    but overall on the vibranium vs adamantium front…
    Vibranium has more hax
    Adamantium has more durability
    buut
    there is another thing, Antarctic Vibranium which destabalizes metals on a molecular metal allowing it to cut through even legit primary adamantium…in addition to the hax of Wakandan Vibraniums cancel out kinetic juice ability. Black Panther’s claws are made of Antarctic Vibranium.
    ————
    also here’s what we see of Angela and male Thor’s most recent fight
    3.bp.blogspot.com/-_bSlOu2c9Ws/VSVxaha47EI/AAAAAAAKJ3A/pSKjS8BtHTo/s1600/p8_14%2Bcopy.jpg
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  37. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 12, 2015 at 7:37 pm -      #37

    “Yeah, but the Hulk generally fucks around with adamantium

    Does he…?
    Genuine question, caus i don’t think he’s ever done more than dent it.”

    Like Jake said, all instances of either really doing anything to adamantium end up being retconned to it being a lesser adamantium.

  38. Epicazeroth April 12, 2015 at 10:07 pm -      #38

    Not relevant to the fight, but: Eventually Chris Hemsworth is going to stop being Thor. I personally don’t think they’ll want to permanently write Thor out of their universe. Does anyone think it’s likely they’d adapt one of the storylines where Thor is someone other than the Odinson? Masterson, or Fem!Thor?

    Also, Daredevil is fucking amazing.
    =
    I think I read somewhere Thor has a rule where he never goes all-out on Earth. That could be why he can’t break legit Adamantium.

  39. Karen Starr April 12, 2015 at 10:18 pm -      #39

    Yes Daredevil is amazing

  40. Jake_Uzumaki April 12, 2015 at 10:33 pm -      #40

    @Epic
    yes, he has said that no matter who he fights on earth no matter how powerful he’ll never use more than 1/3 of his strength

  41. Ragnorke April 12, 2015 at 11:47 pm -      #41

    “Eventually Chris Hemsworth is going to stop being Thor. I personally don’t think they’ll want to permanently write Thor out of their universe. Does anyone think it’s likely they’d adapt one of the storylines where Thor is someone other than the Odinson? Masterson, or Fem!Thor?”

    Wouldn’t it just be for a little while, to make things like the Civil War possible?
    Meanwhile i don’t think he’d need a temporary replacement… But if they do decide to have one, i vote Beta Ray Bill.

    Isn’t his next movie going to include Surtur?
    That fits perfectly into Beta Ray Bills backstory.

  42. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 13, 2015 at 2:31 am -      #42

    “yes, he has said that no matter who he fights on earth no matter how powerful he’ll never use more than 1/3 of his strength”

    Really curious to see a scan of this.
    =
    “Wouldn’t it just be for a little while, to make things like the Civil War possible?”

    I think he means once the current group of Avengers gets too old to continue playing their characters they’ll need to have someone fill in for Thor.

  43. Jake_Uzumaki April 13, 2015 at 7:55 am -      #43

    @CH1C4N0444
    Cap saying Thor told him he only uses 1/3 his strength
    oi60.tinypic.com/28cd7go.jpg

    In the past Thor has admitted that sometimes he forgets just how much he holds back when he’s on Earth
    i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorRestraint01a149.jpg

    Even against a foe like Gog the godslayer, Thor sometimes has to remind himself that his full force on Earth and his full force against godly enemies are two different things. Striking Gog and saying he barely flinches at Mjolnirs full force, and then immediately putting Gog on his ass with another stronger blow
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    That’s why Thor’s cosmic and Asgard based stories are usually where he gets his best feats because on Earth he’s not only trying to not crack it like an egg, but not slaughter mortals left and right, and making an effort not to show up the rest of the Avengers.
    Of course there was also the time he decided to show Tony how much he holds back normally by smacking him around like a baseball and leave him on the ground in broken armor unable to fly…..and later at a funeral of a mutal hero friend crack the armor by very lightly tapping it.
    —–
    more recently Fem Thor has shown she actually has no idea how to fully restrain herself
    2.bp.blogspot.com/-Vi5IyOSZ4kM/VO4CB-0qmbI/AAAAAAAIKA4/Orw9Z2HEQZk/s1600/p30_13%2Bcopy.jpg
    so she basically has two speeds full throttle and barely using effort.

  44. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 13, 2015 at 10:22 am -      #44

    @Jake Huh, always knew he held back, just never knew how much. Makes me wonder though if he’s ever made exceptions, like against Sentry, Thanos, or Hulk(Sentry for bringing down Asgard and Hulk because of the comment he made to Roxxon and because he’s hit him so hard he passed out afterwards).

  45. Ragnorke April 13, 2015 at 10:45 am -      #45

    ” Huh, always knew he held back, just never knew how much. Makes me wonder though if he’s ever made exceptions, like against Sentry, Thanos, or Hulk”

    He fought Sentry in space, twice, and got his ass handed to him both times.
    He beat Sentry on Earth due to the amp by the Norn Stones.

    Considering Thor didn’t care much for Earth during the Seige story line, i don’t think he’d hold back.
    He just witnessed his brother ripped in half, and his entire home destroyed, by an Earthling.

    Thanos & Thor have also fought in space i think,
    Wasn’t Thanos tanking hits from a warriors madness / power gem Thor?

    As for Hulk, yea, i’m certain Thor holds back against him.

  46. Jake_Uzumaki April 13, 2015 at 11:32 am -      #46

    Sentry and Thanos are the only exceptions that he’s fought on Earth, maybe Galactus…..outside of Earth there’s plenty of times he’s gone all out, Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill when Thor went a little crazy, Gorr.
    Generally when Thor cuts loose a planets going to die unless he actively stops it.

    Now it wasn’t really him in a fight…..but he did nearly split the entire earth having sex with a wind goddess once because he got too into it.

    @Ragnorke
    yeah, Thor had warrior madness and the power gem and smacked Thanos in the face and all it did was make Thanos smile. Thanos actually got bored with the fist fight after a while.

    He’s pretty much said the only reason he doesn’t win against Hulk is because he doesn’t want to kill Banner. And I believe there’s a good reason Thor wasn’t around for World War Hulk…

  47. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 13, 2015 at 2:13 pm -      #47

    “Thanos & Thor have also fought in space i think,”

    During Infinity they didn’t, which is when I was thinking of.
    =
    “As for Hulk, yea, i’m certain Thor holds back against him.”

    I figured, just two instances made me wonder.
    =
    “He’s pretty much said the only reason he doesn’t win against Hulk is because he doesn’t want to kill Banner”

    “And I believe there’s a good reason Thor wasn’t around for World War Hulk…”

    Marvel did a What If exactly on that. They just talked it out.

  48. Epicazeroth April 13, 2015 at 2:28 pm -      #48

    @Jake: “but he did nearly split the entire earth having sex with a wind goddess”
    …Uhmm… Oohhh kaayyyyy…….
    ===
    @Rag: Wouldn’t it be prohibitively expensive to make a movie starring BRB? I don’t think technology has quite gotten to that level. I would anticipate that they’d do Masterson or another “human” Thor, but I’d really like them to just do Fem!Thor.

  49. Ragnorke April 13, 2015 at 4:29 pm -      #49

    “Wouldn’t it be prohibitively expensive to make a movie starring BRB? I don’t think technology has quite gotten to that level”

    If movies like Avatar & The Hobbit can be made, which consist of more CGI than actual props, i’d say technology is good enough.

    Heck even Marvel has a movie starring a CGI Tree & Raccoon.
    I don’t see why a dude with a horse-like face would be that difficult.

    Speaking of which, i’d say BRB would fit in quite well with the Cinematic Guardians of the Galaxy.
    Thor is a bit too… Normal…

  50. Jake_Uzumaki April 13, 2015 at 4:33 pm -      #50

    “…Uhmm… Oohhh kaayyyyy…….”

    its crazy, but it happened.

    “I don’t think technology has quite gotten to that level.”

    what level? full cgi main character in a live action film?
    ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNzAyMTQ3ODg0Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwODk0Njg2._V1_.jpg
    wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/screencrush.com/442/files/2012/09/avatar-sequels-china.jpg
    www.lesclairvoyants.net/wp-content/uploads/groot_mcu.jpg

  51. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 13, 2015 at 7:48 pm -      #51

    “He’s pretty much said the only reason he doesn’t win against Hulk is because he doesn’t want to kill Banner. ”

    Where’d this come from?
    =
    “Wouldn’t it be prohibitively expensive to make a movie starring BRB?”

    ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-05/enhanced/webdr07/10/23/anigif_enhanced-buzz-3916-1399779769-15.gif

    ” I would anticipate that they’d do Masterson or another “human” Thor, but I’d really like them to just do Fem!Thor.”

    She’s pretty new though, not sure if they’d do that. That being said, I do like the idea of two Thor’s running around like what’s happening at the moment.
    =
    “Speaking of which, i’d say BRB would fit in quite well with the Cinematic Guardians of the Galaxy.”

    TBH I’d prefer Richard Rider or Quasar to be in it than BRB.
    =
    So, General Census seems to think Thor would win?

  52. Jake_Uzumaki April 13, 2015 at 8:27 pm -      #52

    @CH1C4N0444
    his clash with Norse god amped Hulk in Fear Itself, when he punted Nul Hulk into orbit after he said “to be continued Banner”
    not Hulk, Banner, implying he was saying he could never beat Banner due to his friendship (which says something about how close he is to Banner when he said he liked Ben Grimm after killing him). This is also important to keep in mind when you consider Thor once nearly killed Hulk with a single strike, and in a timeline he later used the Odinforce to undo killed Hulk after being stripped of the Odinforce (killing Thing again then as well interestingly enough when they ganged up on him)
    The implication seems to be that Thor couldn’t give fewer fucks about Hulk and that he holds back because of Banner

  53. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 13, 2015 at 8:39 pm -      #53

    ” implying he was saying he could never beat Banner due to his friendship (which says something about how close he is to Banner when he said he liked Ben Grimm after killing him).”

    Don’t really think anything was being implied there. Think you’re reading too much into it.
    =
    “This is also important to keep in mind when you consider Thor once nearly killed Hulk with a single strike,”

    Don’t recall this either.
    =
    “and in a timeline he later used the Odinforce to undo killed Hulk after being stripped of the Odinforce (killing Thing again then as well interestingly enough when they ganged up on him)”

    Like you said though, alternate timeline and it was OF Thor. Actually, wasn’t that RKT?

  54. Jake_Uzumaki April 13, 2015 at 8:58 pm -      #54

    “Like you said though, alternate timeline and it was OF Thor.”

    He didn’t have the Odinforce when he did it

    “Don’t recall this either.”
    i.imgur.com/tmktisG.jpg

    “Don’t really think anything was being implied there”

    he ko’d Hulk into orbit (Hulk was out for a few seconds before crashing back to earth) and the “can’t beat you” came after he was threatening to kill Hulk.

  55. Sauroposeidon April 13, 2015 at 8:59 pm -      #55

    “I wouldn’t be surprised if Marvel purposely publicized it in a way to make non-comic readers think Thor Odinson became a chick.”

    This is how it was advertised to me. Everything about She-Thor seems botched so far. She comes off to me as a mary sue mouth piece for social justice.

    Of course, the Absorbing Man fight didn’t help. At all. I don’t know who they have writing for her but when you end up proving everyone who had worries about what this would become pretty much right.. you need to go. You don’t get to be a god and a role model and then use that power to just break the bones of people who say shit you don’t agree with. I’m all for good anti-heroes but let’s be honest here, they’re not writing her as one.

    Considering the path they’re taking with her, even though logically she should be inferior to normal Thor, she’s probably better in every way because she’s a mary sue. So, the mary sue wins.

  56. Epicazeroth April 13, 2015 at 9:16 pm -      #56

    @Rag: “If movies like Avatar & The Hobbit can be made”
    But BRB has no way to interject humans into the mix. I suppose it could be done, but it would still be really expensive if your main character is 100% CGI. Though, if they have his mouth not move, they could use practical effects…
    ===
    @Sauro: Well, she also can’t control her powers as well as Odinson. That’s not really a “Mary Sue” type trait (though it does make her seem a bit more broken). And didn’t she break Creel’s jaw because A) he was actively engaged in a crime; B) he’s a douche? And his argument was that she should be making her own name, not using Thor’s name. You can definitely form an argument that she’s a bad role model, but I don’t think you could argue she’s not good enough to call herself “Thor”.

  57. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 13, 2015 at 9:36 pm -      #57

    “He didn’t have the Odinforce when he did it”

    Could’ve sworn it was RKT or OFT who did that.
    =
    i.imgur.com/tmktisG.jpg”

    O, I have seen that scan. Huh, kewl, thanks.
    =
    “he ko’d Hulk into orbit (Hulk was out for a few seconds before crashing back to earth)”
    -http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11121/111213429/4498362-1215730320-241me.jpg

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/89462/1971191-fi_5_oroboros_cps_031.jpg

    You can see him talking while out in space, although Thor does pass out after hitting him that hard. Also, never noticed that Thor turns blue right before hitting him.

  58. Ragnorke April 13, 2015 at 9:42 pm -      #58

    @CH1
    “TBH I’d prefer Richard Rider or Quasar to be in it than BRB.”

    Richard Rider’s almost a guarantee already isn’t he?
    With the Nova Corps and all, i’d be surprised if they DON’T include him eventually.
    That’s part of the reason i said BRB would fit into the team well.. Caus of the whole annihilators friendship between BRB & Nova.
    Also, the annihilators have teamed up with GotG several times.

    @Epic
    “But BRB has no way to interject humans into the mix.”

    They could take the horse head down a notch i suppose. It would make it more appealing to the general audience that don’t read comics.
    I mean, make it a tad bit more flat and all.

    ” but it would still be really expensive if your main character is 100% CGI.”

    Groot, Rocket Raccoon, Hulk… Ultron..?
    Don’t see why BRB would be more expensive than any of them.

  59. Jake_Uzumaki April 13, 2015 at 9:43 pm -      #59

    @Sauro
    I haven’t really seen any feats that actually put her superior to Thor, she seems only as strong, fast, durable, only real difference is gal-pal power as opposed to bro power and her lightning swirls

    @CH1C4N0444
    It was 616 RKT but Strange knocked him back to base level then Hulk and Thing jumped him while he only had one arm, he proceeded to kill both.

    He doesn’t start talking till he starts reentry. In the first panel he’s unconcious.

    @Ragnorke
    I would love the Annihilators to be in the film.

  60. Ragnorke April 13, 2015 at 9:44 pm -      #60

    “You can see him talking while out in space”

    His first speech bubble is empty.. And his eyes were closed…
    Pretty sure that implies he was knocked out. For a little bit at least.

  61. Limbo Lowk April 13, 2015 at 9:59 pm -      #61

    “You don’t get to be a god and a role model and then use that power to just break the bones of people who say shit you don’t agree with.”

    You can when your a superhero and the guy your fighting is waist deep in criminal activity.
    ===
    “even though logically she should be inferior to normal Thor, she’s probably better in every way because she’s a mary sue.”

    So far the only thing she is good at seems mostly on mjolnir’s part. Because mjolnir is a strong independent hammer dat don’t need no man holdin her down.
    Other then that she seem the same as any other person who has had the hammer… Except for Loki, he actually beat a bloodlusted Thor when he wasn’t on earth.

  62. Jake_Uzumaki April 13, 2015 at 10:23 pm -      #62

    @Lowk
    granted Loki is also probably the most well suited temp Thor to take on Thor in the history of temp Thor’s,

  63. Friendlysociopath April 13, 2015 at 10:29 pm -      #63

    but it would still be really expensive if your main character is 100% CGI

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2sxSmtqDig

    His first speech bubble is empty.

    Or that could just be the vacuum of space actually being a vacuum, equally possible; words don’t start appearing till he starts re-entering the atmosphere.

    You don’t get to be a god and a role model and then use that power to just break the bones of people who say shit you don’t agree with.

    Pretty sure the first rule of Godhood goes something along the lines of “Nobody can tell me what to do”.

    even though logically she should be inferior to normal Thor

    Err, why?

  64. Ragnorke April 13, 2015 at 11:19 pm -      #64

    @Limbo
    “Except for Loki, he actually beat a bloodlusted Thor when he wasn’t on earth.”

    Well you need to consider that Loki IS still an ice giant, raised by Odin who taught him magic & energy projection.
    Being granted the powers of Thor on top of that, along with a badass weapon… It makes sense that he should be beating Thor (who doesn’t have Mjolnir)

    @Friendly
    “Or that could just be the vacuum of space actually being a vacuum,”

    Eh, his mouth & eyes were still closed.

    “Err, why?”

    Well, i don’t know her origin yet, but if she’s a human than she should be inferior to Thor Odinson.
    Mjolnir’s a strong weapon, weight of a star and all that jazz, and it also has an enchantment that gives the wielder Thors power (Making them the “god of thunder”)
    But it doesn’t give you the godly heritage that a real god has. Or it shouldn’t anyways. And it’s never stated that it does… So i’m going to assume it doesn’t.
    Things like the God Blast, or getting more powerful as people pray to you, etc etc…

  65. Jake_Uzumaki April 13, 2015 at 11:50 pm -      #65

    @Friendly
    “could just be the vacuum of space actually being a vacuum,”

    In a universe where Thor has casual conversations in the vacuum of space with no comm devices every time he goes into space?
    And Silver Surfer
    and pretty much everyone who goes into space without a space suit?

  66. Jake_Uzumaki April 13, 2015 at 11:52 pm -      #66

    @Ragnorke
    its always boosted at least strength to the same level (although its hard to tell which scans are from Masterson, and which are just from when Thor was sporting a beard and had polio)

  67. Ragnorke April 14, 2015 at 12:37 am -      #67

    Yea i’m pretty sure Hulk has had conversations in places without atmosphere before too.

  68. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 14, 2015 at 1:25 am -      #68

    “It was 616 RKT but Strange knocked him back to base level then Hulk and Thing jumped him while he only had one arm, he proceeded to kill both.”

    *shrugs* Still an alternate timeline.
    =
    “Eh, his mouth & eyes were still closed.”

    You can see his teeth, his mouth wasn’t closed.
    =
    “In a universe where Thor has casual conversations in the vacuum of space with no comm devices every time he goes into space?
    And Silver Surfer
    and pretty much everyone who goes into space without a space suit?”

    So, just because it doesn’t always work the way it should means it never works the way it should?
    =
    “Yea i’m pretty sure Hulk has had conversations in places without atmosphere before too.”

    Why put a text bubble in the first place if he was passed out? It’d make more sense if they wanted to show he was passed out they wouldn’t of had it there in the first place.

  69. Jake_Uzumaki April 14, 2015 at 9:37 am -      #69

    “Still an alternate timeline.”

    Except for the part where it became an alternate timeline after 616 Thor got the Odinforce back and rewound time.

    “So, just because it doesn’t always work the way it should means it never works the way it should?”

    When it never works that way for Thor, Hulk, Sentry, Silver Surfer, any of the other Heralds, any of the other gods we’ve seen go into space at various times, Beta Ray Bill, Drax the Destroyer pre-Nerf (haven’t seen him in space much post nerf), all the Captain Marvels, Quasar, and the list keeps going and going….
    I’d say that’s precedent for it not working that way close to 90% he time if not more.
    The rule seems to be “if you don’t need a space suit to not die you can talk just fine”

  70. Jake_Uzumaki April 14, 2015 at 9:51 am -      #70

    “Why put a text bubble in the first place if he was passed out?”

    I don’t know, why did this artist give Mephisto vampire fangs?
    3.bp.blogspot.com/-ettq5SgQ57g/VO4CG1BTPsI/AAAAAAAIKCA/TBud5fNoOSk/s1600/p30_22%2Bcopy.jpg

    Why does this artist draw Thor with a big bushy Santa style beard at the end of New Avengers 31
    3.bp.blogspot.com/-64y31oou7Zc/VQB5ichyUgI/AAAAAAAIcww/fMXBLYm5dwU/s1600/p14_22%2Bcopy.jpg
    but then his beards back to being neatly trimmed at the start of New Avengers 32
    3.bp.blogspot.com/-RXsz_EPDvVY/VRMC0SzyT8I/AAAAAAAJGxw/i1zmM7jY5sM/s1600/p20_4%2Bcopy.jpg
    ?
    Also why do the Beyonders in 31 look humanoid but in 32 they look like the lost Decepticons?
    3.bp.blogspot.com/-HbkS6l5aQWk/VRMC2a2F06I/AAAAAAAJGyY/MoVR302FRA4/s1600/p20_8%2Bcopy.jpg

  71. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 14, 2015 at 12:10 pm -      #71

    “Except for the part where it became an alternate timeline after 616 Thor got the Odinforce back and rewound time.”

    marvel.com/universe/Glossary:A#alternate_future

    marvel.wikia.com/Earth-3515

    If it’s the future it’s no longer 616.
    =
    “I’d say that’s precedent for it not working that way close to 90% he time if not more.”

    I’d agree, but that shouldn’t mean the one time they try to actually follow the rules we should dismiss it.
    =
    “I don’t know, why did this artist give Mephisto vampire fangs?

    Why does this artist draw Thor with a big bushy Santa style beard at the end of New Avengers 31 but then his beards back to being neatly trimmed at the start of New Avengers 32?

    Also why do the Beyonders in 31 look humanoid but in 32 they look like the lost Decepticons?”

    How are any of those similar to the text bubble? Those are all ways they choose to draw the characters at the time. It wouldn’t cause any confusion if they choose to draw them slightly different or take away things or add things. The whole thing here is that the text bubble makes no sense if he was passed out since they could just as easily not have put one and made it clear he was passed out, adding it just causes confusion to whether he was or wasn’t, otherwise we wouldn’t be debating about it.

  72. Ragnorke April 14, 2015 at 1:12 pm -      #72

    @CH
    Do you remember the Infinity revelations? The Thanos and Adam Warlock duo arc?
    They found interdimensional artifacts that made them nigh omnipotent… And this was after the living tribunals death.

    Could it be related to the Beyonders?
    And do you think Adam will have any part in the upcoming story?

    I swear if Secret War ends without seeing Adam or Sentry, I’m going to go ape shit.

  73. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 14, 2015 at 1:42 pm -      #73

    “Do you remember the Infinity revelations? The Thanos and Adam Warlock duo arc?”

    Yes, I do. Funny you mention Warlock, the Beyonders’ first appearance happened with him actually.
    =
    “They found interdimensional artifacts that made them nigh omnipotent… And this was after the living tribunals death.”

    Wasn’t he in the story?
    =
    “Could it be related to the Beyonders?”

    Could be, don’t recall it having them mentioned, but I do remember the wiki saying it had to do with them. Normally I’d just say there’s no proof for it, but that’s what I said about the Beyonders killing LT and it turned out that way. Although, it seems weird to just throw that story in there and never go anywhere with it.
    =
    “And do you think Adam will have any part in the upcoming story?”

    He should, seems weird to include Thanos and not Warlock. The two of them are almost like Superman and Lex Luthor, can’t really have one without the other.
    =
    “I swear if Secret War ends without seeing Adam or Sentry, I’m going to go ape shit.”

    I can see Warlock, even Magus in Secret Wars. Not so sure about Sentry though. Again, does seem pointless to be like “Hey, guize, he’s back!” And never do anything with him. Maybe him and Wonder Man will come back together in Uncanny Avengers? Since he’s out of commission as well.
    =
    @Rag Seen any of Daredevil? Surprisingly brutal for Disney and Marvel usual live action content.

  74. Ragnorke April 14, 2015 at 3:37 pm -      #74

    “Yes, I do. Funny you mention Warlock, the Beyonders’ first appearance happened with him actually.”

    Wait what? Wasn’t their first appearance with Hank Pym?
    And their first mention was by The Beyonder, after his first retcon.
    The first character from Marvel to meet them was The High Evolutionary, when he finally opened a portal to Beyond, and he went crazy trying to comprehend their reality.

    “Wasn’t he in the story?”

    I didn’t read the whole thing, only parts… So i had no idea.
    The time-line was after “Infinity”… Which was after the Incursions started… Right?
    So shouldn’t LT have been dead by then?

    But i guess LT lived in a plane above our reality and our comprehension of time & space.
    So that doesn’t matter too much.

    “Could be, don’t recall it having them mentioned, but I do remember the wiki saying it had to do with them. ”

    The wiki mentioned the Beyonders?
    The Marvel wiki just says it was created by beings more powerful than LT.
    But yea, the Beyonder & the Beyonders are the only beings in Marvel history to have bested LT.
    Oh and the heart of the universe.

    ” but that’s what I said about the Beyonders killing LT and it turned out that way.”

    Since the Beyonder has always been the only person above the living tribunal… Once he said he had creators, i just assumed it was logical for them to be above LT too.
    Tbh in my mind they were just going to be one of the many nigh-omnis that Marvel mentions and then forgets about.
    I’m really glad they finally brought them.

    “Although, it seems weird to just throw that story in there and never go anywhere with it.”

    Exactly!

    “The two of them are almost like Superman and Lex Luthor, ”

    Well… Except they actually respect each other.

    ” Not so sure about Sentry though. Again, does seem pointless to be like “Hey, guize, he’s back!” And never do anything with him. ”

    He was already back though, in uncanny avengers, which takes place far before the current events doesn’t it?
    He flew away with a Celestial, who are all dead now… So he’s still just flying around technically.
    With the entire multiverse going to shit, and all of Marvels big guns dying, it seems silly to just have him singing & whistling to himself while lifting a Celestial across galaxies.

    “Maybe him and Wonder Man will come back together in Uncanny Avengers? Since he’s out of commission as well.”

    Lol :’)
    Hasn’t Wonderman always disliked Sentry?
    I recall him saying multiple times he’s just as strong, yet he always gets shrugged off.

    During the Ultron fight in Dark Avengers, Sentry said he’d take on Ultron.
    Wonder Man was like “I can help! i’m just as strong as…”
    And as he was speaking, he got cut off by Osborn who told him to back off.
    He musta felt like such a bitch.

  75. Ragnorke April 14, 2015 at 3:39 pm -      #75

    “Seen any of Daredevil? Surprisingly brutal for Disney and Marvel usual live action content.”

    Nope, but i’d really like to. I was just watching the GoT leaks.
    Yea the trailer looked really gritty. I love how most Marvel fans bitched about everything in DC being dark & lacking comedy, yet here they are all loving Daredevil.
    *sigh*

  76. Ragnorke April 14, 2015 at 3:47 pm -      #76

    So, i was excited to read that Sentry would be in Secret Wars 2015.
    But then i realized, this guy is actually a thing..

    www.comicvine.com/earth-sentry/4005-23000/

    What the actual fuck Marvel.
    Thanks for fucking with my heart.

  77. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 14, 2015 at 4:05 pm -      #77

    “Wait what? Wasn’t their first appearance with Hank Pym?”

    My bad, I meant mention. It was in Marvel Two In One with Adam Warlock.
    =
    “And their first mention was by The Beyonder, after his first retcon.”

    marvel.wikia.com/Marvel_Two-In-One_Vol_1_63

    Haven’t seen Beyonder mention them, to be honest.
    =
    “The first character from Marvel to meet them was The High Evolutionary, when he finally opened a portal to Beyond, and he went crazy trying to comprehend their reality.”

    It was during the Evolutionary War, but they plucked his planet and put it on display or something. Then he mentions how that made him go crazy. I think. Only skimmed through the comics to see their mention, didn’t read it heavily.
    =
    “The time-line was after “Infinity”… Which was after the Incursions started… Right?”

    Incursions were happening before Infinity IIRC. One of the scans I posted in Hulk vs Godzilla vs Deadweight was from before Infinity when Cap used the IG to push back the other universe.
    =
    “So shouldn’t LT have been dead by then?”

    I think it took place before then. Maybe? Don’t know when he placed it, but yea, the story opens up with him in it. I just started rereading it, just to see where he was, first page he’s there.
    =
    “The wiki mentioned the Beyonders?”

    I remember you posting a link to it mentioning them a while ago, could’ve changed since then. Least I thought you did.
    =
    “But yea, the Beyonder & the Beyonders are the only beings in Marvel history to have bested LT.”

    It’s funny you mention that, I recall a scan were LT passed judgement on the Beyonder and stripped him of his omnipotence in all universes except the one he came from, or something along those lines.
    =
    “Since the Beyonder has always been the only person above the living tribunal… Once he said he had creators, i just assumed it was logical for them to be above LT too.”

    Where’s he say that?

    Although, to be fair, we have nukes that are multiple times more dangerous we are, but I see what you mean.
    =
    “Tbh in my mind they were just going to be one of the many nigh-omnis that Marvel mentions and then forgets about.
    I’m really glad they finally brought them.”

    I think Hickman just thought it’d be better to bring back some hardly mentioned being than it would to just make something up on the spot. In this case he did both, although Rabum Alal being Dr. Doom makes me wonder how powerful he is now since he can somehow compete with the Beyonders and Black Priests.
    =
    “Well… Except they actually respect each other.”

    Batman and Superman than. You get the point.
    =
    “He was already back though, in uncanny avengers, which takes place far before the current events doesn’t it?”

    Yes, but he flew off into space with a rotting(do they rot)…with a dead husk of a Celestial.
    =
    “With the entire multiverse going to shit, and all of Marvels big guns dying, it seems silly to just have him singing & whistling to himself while lifting a Celestial across galaxies.”

    Yea, I don’t know what they want to do with him. They really should bring him back, seeing how Earth’s currently in danger. With Nightmask, Ex Nihilo and the Ex Nihili, Abyss, Starbrand, Hyperion, and Thor all dead Marvel’s last flying big gun is Blue Marvel and Fem Thor. So, they’re going to be the only real threats against the Galactic Council(considering the rest of Earth’s big guns are the Hulk, Juggernaut, and Herc, who can’t fly they’re going to be more or less useless in a space battle). Although, Drax and Angela are helping out Earth, right? So, maybe not too screwed…

    *recalls last Drax vs Gladiator encounter and last GotG vs Gladiator encounter* Yea, maybe not…
    =
    “Hasn’t Wonderman always disliked Sentry?
    I recall him saying multiple times he’s just as strong, yet he always gets shrugged off.”

    Don’t know if they disliked each other, but I know he has said he was just as strong on a few occasions.

    That being said, Cap has mentioned it before as well, I’ll have to find the scan again though. Maybe I posted it somewhere? Probably not… Too lazy to search for it on here.
    =
    “Nope, but i’d really like to.”

    Yea, it’s pretty good. I’d recommend it for sure.
    =
    ” I was just watching the GoT leaks.”

    :O
    =
    “Yea the trailer looked really gritty. I love how most Marvel fans bitched about everything in DC being dark & lacking comedy, yet here they are all loving Daredevil.
    *sigh*”

    To be fair, that’s all DC’s done lately though. Marvel’s just barely trying dark and gritty for their live action, while DC’s never done anything but dark and gritty. Except with Flash and sometimes Arrow, sometimes. I think a good variety of both wouldn’t hurt either company.

  78. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 14, 2015 at 4:08 pm -      #78

    “So, i was excited to read that Sentry would be in Secret Wars 2015.
    But then i realized, this guy is actually a thing..”

    marvel.wikia.com/John_Foster_%28Earth-982%29

    Maybe not, he’s from an alternate Earth, and far less popular than Sentry. Doubt he’d be in it.

  79. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 14, 2015 at 4:12 pm -      #79

    Nevermind…

    You can see Earth Sentry here…

    i.imgur.com/FUNX0c1.jpg

  80. Ragnorke April 14, 2015 at 4:36 pm -      #80

    “I think it took place before then. Maybe? Don’t know when he placed it, ”

    Jim Starlin, the writer of the novel, said it takes place just after Infinity.

    “I recall a scan were LT passed judgement on the Beyonder and stripped him of his omnipotence in all universes except the one he came from, or something along those lines.”

    After retcon?
    Original Beyonder was on an equal footing, if not above.
    “He was originally described as millions of times more powerful than the entire multiverse.”

    “Where’s he say that?”

    During Secret Wars 3 (unofficial title), Beyonder runs into Kubik and Shaper of Worlds, two other creations of the Beyonders.
    Here’s a quote from comicvines description of the event, i can’t find the actual scans.
    “Finally the Shaper and Kubik explained the origin of the Beyonder’s and the Molecule Man’s power. There is another dimension, where a race of incredibly powerful beings known as the Beyonders (plural) live and watch our universe.”

    “Although, to be fair, we have nukes that are multiple times more dangerous we are, but I see what you mean.”

    During the conversation, the Beyonders are referred to as more powerful i think. Or at least implied to be.

  81. Ragnorke April 14, 2015 at 4:41 pm -      #81

    For the record, all feats from Secret Wars 1 & 2 are no longer 100% canon…
    The retcon of Beyonder made it so that the events in those arcs were illusions. It was his mind trying to comprehend cosmic awareness.
    So he was never really as powerful as he thought he was, and many of those events never really happened.

    Since it’s impossible to say what’s real and what isn’t, i guess no Secret Wars feats can be used on BankGambling.

    However, even after the retcon he did still fight Kubik to a stand still.
    And Kubik held the entire universe in his hands, and was about to crush it.
    So still very powerful.

  82. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 14, 2015 at 4:58 pm -      #82

    Jim Starlin, the writer of the novel, said it takes place just after Infinity.”

    Hmmm, no clue, but the LT was there.
    =
    After retcon?”

    Not sure, I’ll have to find the scan again.
    =
    “During Secret Wars 3″

    ? You mean the upcoming Secret Wars?
    =

  83. Epicazeroth April 14, 2015 at 5:10 pm -      #83

    @Rag: “Don’t see why BRB would be more expensive than any of them.”
    Because BRB (if he’s the protagonist) would be in like 90% of the shots. Though, after watching Avatar and GotG again, I do think it would be doable.

    “He was originally described as millions of times more powerful than the entire multiverse.”
    How can you be more powerful than a place?
    ===
    Is Secret Wars good? Should I try to read it (maybe try to pick up the “collected”-type hardcover edition)?

  84. Sauroposeidon April 14, 2015 at 5:23 pm -      #84

    “And didn’t she break Creel’s jaw because”

    Because he said a disparaging remark about feminists. That is the only reason she punched him. It was a direct reflex to his words. She added his crimes after as an afterthought. Not only did they not rank higher than him saying something anti-feminist, they didn’t even register in her head as a possible reason until after it had happened.

    I honestly don’t care who Thor is. You don’t get weirder than Bill. I care more that from what I’ve seen, her actions were something the writer felt was justified. It was a funny jab as far as they were concerned. It’s sort of a common trait for SJW’s to be rather sociopathic towards people who don’t agree with them, though, I’ve noticed.

    I still think she’s dumb. Lack of control is not a serious issue unless it limits her ability to defeat the enemy.. which, although I’m not a comic reader so I may be wrong, doesn’t seem to be the case.

  85. Limbo Lowk April 14, 2015 at 5:39 pm -      #85

    “Lack of control is not a serious issue unless it limits her ability to defeat the enemy”

    It means her methods are more limited. If she knew of/control of all the powers she probably would’ve been able to simply banish ultron insted of getting beat and turned into a robo slave like everyone else. Plus she has a variation of the 30 sec rule where too long from the hammer results in losing the powers of Thor.
    So far all she really has is the basics, superhuman stats, lightning, flight; maybe with a tad more guile from her personally to top it off.

  86. Limbo Lowk April 14, 2015 at 5:43 pm -      #86

    Angela probably doesn’t know about the lose power thing does she?

  87. Ragnorke April 14, 2015 at 6:14 pm -      #87

    @CH
    “? You mean the upcoming Secret Wars?”

    It’s not actually called secret wars 3, it’s an unofficial title to the story arc.
    It involves Beyonder, Dr. Doom, Shaper of Worlds, Kubik, and a bunch of universal mumbo jumbo. And it took place a little while after Secret Wars 2.
    Thus the unofficial title. Anyways never mind that.

    Not sure if it’s before or after the Adam Warlock / High Evolutionary events.

    @Epic
    “How can you be more powerful than a place?”

    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/104794/2036490-letter.jpeg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/104794/1943407-clash.jpeg

    “Is Secret Wars good? Should I try to read it (maybe try to pick up the “collected”-type hardcover edition)?”

    There’s Currently Secret Wars, Secret Wars 2, Final Battle, Secret Wars “3”, & the build up comics to Secret Wars 2015.
    They pretty much all follow the story of the Beyonder, and all his ups and downs.

    If you liked the Infinity Gauntlet, i think you’ll like Secret Wars.
    It involves a lot more of the known characters, rather than the obscure cosmic ones (although they do all get involved later too)

    There’s a TON of Dc. Doom in it too btw.
    Heck it seems pretty obvious that he would have been Rabum Alal now that i think about it. I just never considered the possibility of it being a character we were already introduced to.

  88. Epicazeroth April 14, 2015 at 7:11 pm -      #88

    @Rag: Which one is the Battleworld part? Or is that the whole thing?

  89. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 14, 2015 at 7:58 pm -      #89

    “It’s not actually called secret wars 3, it’s an unofficial title to the story arc.”

    Do you recall the official title? I’m curious to read the issues now.
    =
    “There’s Currently Secret Wars, Secret Wars 2, Final Battle, Secret Wars “3”, & the build up comics to Secret Wars 2015.
    They pretty much all follow the story of the Beyonder, and all his ups and downs.”

    Never heard of the last two.
    =
    “Which one is the Battleworld part? Or is that the whole thing?”

    IIRC Battleworld was the planet the Beyonder built to have everyone battle it out. And that’s the name of the upcoming world made from scraps of the multiverse.

  90. Ragnorke April 14, 2015 at 8:54 pm -      #90

    @Epic
    “Which one is the Battleworld part? Or is that the whole thing?”

    Secret Wars 1, and Secret Wars 2015 seems to go back to that.

    Although Secret Wars 1’s battleworld was just made from random parts of random planets.
    Whereas Secret Wars 2015’s battleworld looks like it’s made up from random parts of Earth from across alternate realities & time-lines.

    Secret Wars 2 is relatively boring.
    The Beyonder tries living among humans, loses his powers, gets his powers back, gets his powers stolen, it just goes on and on.

    The Final Battle is technically a continuation of Secret Wars 2, but they might as well be their own separate story arcs.
    Kinda like Infinity & Infinity Revelations.
    It revolves a lot more around Owen Reece (Molecule Man) and his.. err… Relation… With The Beyonder.
    Has a pretty epic ending.

    @CH
    “Never heard of the last two.”

    The reason i can’t find the name of the Kubik/Shaper issues is because it wasn’t a novel, major story arc, or even a miniseries… and thus has no recognizable name.
    It was just a random adventure which happened to be heavily tied in to the ending of Secret Wars 2.
    It’s very likely it was a Fantastic Four one.

    Here’s something though:
    i.imgur.com/h5I7lCo.jpg

  91. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 14, 2015 at 11:24 pm -      #91

    “The Final Battle is technically a continuation of Secret Wars 2, but they might as well be their own separate story arcs.”

    Do you know what issues are involved? Never heard of it either.
    =
    “The reason i can’t find the name of the Kubik/Shaper issues is because it wasn’t a novel, major story arc, or even a miniseries… and thus has no recognizable name.
    It was just a random adventure which happened to be heavily tied in to the ending of Secret Wars 2.
    It’s very likely it was a Fantastic Four one.”

    So I take it you have no idea what issues were involved then?
    =
    “Here’s something though:”

    Huh weird, doesn’t seem like one of the issues listed under Beyonders appearance on the wiki. Could be, and I just don’t recognize it.

  92. Ragnorke April 15, 2015 at 12:01 am -      #92

    FOUND THEM!
    The “Secret War 3″ ones.

    Fantastic Four vol 1_319
    img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080725010325/marveldatabase/images/b/b7/Fantastic_Four_Vol_1_319.jpg
    Kubik & Shaper show up in this one.

    There’s also FF vol 1_27
    Which is split into 2 stories, first half is FF bullshit on earth.
    Second half is Molecule Man trying to hunt down the Beyonder in the cosmos. LT, Eternity, and all the big dogs are in it.

  93. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 15, 2015 at 2:11 am -      #93

    “Fantastic Four vol 1_319″

    Huh, I figured there’d be more than just that.
    =
    “There’s also FF vol 1_27″

    Hmmm, is this part of the Final Battle, Secret Wars 1 & 2 as well?

  94. Ragnorke April 15, 2015 at 9:00 am -      #94

    “Huh, I figured there’d be more than just that.”

    There’s certainly more.
    I just needed to look through Kubiks rather limited appearances to narrow down the Series & Issue number.
    Kubik doesn’t play a huge role in it though, since it’s mostly Doom & Beyonder.
    I’d say it’s another couple issues before and a couple more after 1_319.

    “Hmmm, is this part of the Final Battle, Secret Wars 1 & 2 as well?”

    It’s part of the build up to Final Battles climax i believe.
    Which was the fight between full powered Molecule Man & full powered Beyonder.

  95. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 15, 2015 at 2:16 pm -      #95

    There’s certainly more”

    Just looked, there looks like it’s only one other issue that’s involved and it’s before. The next one doesn’t mention the Beyonder and seems like it’s just Hulk vs Thing.

    Also, Secret Wars 3 was the name if that specific issue, so not entirely unofficial, I guess.
    =
    “It’s part of the build up to Final Battles climax i believe.”

    Haven’t seen any mention of Final Battle as an event, am I missing something?

    Also, it’s FF Vol 1 Annual #27, just for clarification. If you look for it without specifing annual you’ll get something completely different.

  96. Ragnorke April 15, 2015 at 4:28 pm -      #96

    “Just looked, there looks like it’s only one other issue that’s involved and it’s before. The next one doesn’t mention the Beyonder and seems like it’s just Hulk vs Thing.”

    Hmm.. Are you sure there aren’t other tie-in issues from other comic series?
    I guess it’d be pretty hard to find, considering Marvels old comic arcs were a mess when it came to organization.
    But I thought there were more than just two.

    “Also, Secret Wars 3 was the name if that specific issue, so not entirely unofficial, I guess.”

    Oh! good to know.

    “Haven’t seen any mention of Final Battle as an event, am I missing something?”

    Must’v just been a single tie in issue then. Same way “Secret Wars 3″ was.
    It’s either towards the end of SW2 or shortly after.
    I’ll try and find it.

  97. Jake_Uzumaki April 15, 2015 at 5:20 pm -      #97

    So Fem Thor was kind of getting her shit kicked in by the Destroyer powered by Cul. Credit where credits due she wasn’t giving up, but she was covered in blood, and between her and the Destroyer only one of them can bleed.

  98. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 15, 2015 at 5:50 pm -      #98

    “Hmm.. Are you sure there aren’t other tie-in issues from other comic series?”

    It didn’t mention anything of it being a part of a series, so I guess not.

    marvel.wikia.com/Fantastic_Four_Vol_1_319

    There’s the wiki, maybe you can find something I missed.
    =
    “But I thought there were more than just two.”

    Like I said those two were the only ones that seemed relevant. The next issue just involves Hulk vs the Thing.
    =
    “Must’v just been a single tie in issue then. Same way “Secret Wars 3″ was.
    It’s either towards the end of SW2 or shortly after.”

    Seems like it. Definitely interested in looking for those comics now. Especially the Annual.
    =
    “I’ll try and find it.”

    Thanks!
    =
    “between her and the Destroyer only one of them can bleed.”

    Can’t really blame her though. Cul is a Skyfather level being, and considering those guys tend to bust galaxies on accident, makes sense that she’d loose. .

  99. Ragnorke April 15, 2015 at 6:06 pm -      #99

    “Cul is a Skyfather level being, and considering those guys tend to bust galaxies on accident, makes sense that she’d loose.”

    I’m kinda curious though, are all Sky Fathers casual “galaxy busters”?
    I mean, i can only recall 1 feat..

    It was caused by an all out Odin (who was using his Odinsword and full destroyer armor) & Surtur trading blows.
    And considering it was meant to be a fight to the death, i’d imagine both of them were pushing themselves above and beyond what they’d usually be capable of.

  100. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 15, 2015 at 6:08 pm -      #100

    Mildly relevant, but on the Fem Thor’s wiki the notes it has a list of possible candidates that Fem Thor could be, and it’s a list made by Odinson. The one’s that haven’t been excluded yet are; Tarene, Roz Solomon, Amora, Tana Nile, and Loki. Tana Nile is dead IIRC, and while Loki is a trickster, I don’t see him being a woman, again. Tarene and Amora are the only two left that can survive being out in space and are both already blonde.

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