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I’m fairly sure Ruby could blitz him. Rather easily too.
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Ed’s best bet is playing defence, but that won’t win a fight.
Probably Ruby, Sniper Rifle gives her a tremendous range advantage over Ed and she’s shown multiple times she can just fire it and move at the same times.
…Yeah. Ed hasn’t got a chance Vs her speed. Hell, even just the shock wave of her passing him might do some damage all on it’s own.
Gonna go with Ruby on this. I think he’s likely to tank some of her attacks, and if this ever were animated we’d get some pretty cool visuals.. but unless he somehow takes her by surprise with something unexpected she will most likely defeat him after about a minute or two.
@Sauroposeidon
“Gonna go with Ruby on this. I think he’s likely to tank some of her attacks, and if this ever were animated we’d get some pretty cool visuals.. but unless he somehow takes her by surprise with something unexpected she will most likely defeat him after about a minute or two.”
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Aside from her being nice enough to only aim at the metal bits… Exactly how is he going to “tank some of her attacks”? Much less “for a minute or two”?. -_-
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She can pretty much take his head clean off whenever she feels like it.
I’m seeing Ruby (politely) just beating up Edward until he surrenders. She’s too nice to just cut him in half and he’s no threat to her, and she’ll figure it out pretty quickly too.
Ed will likely realize he can’t beat her without much of an issue, he was more or less fully aware of how badly Wrath would beat him if he tried to fight him on equal terms. (Come to think of it, does Ed beat any Homunculous on his own? (Not counting Pride)
I’m going to agree with the consensus that the young lady with super speed who swings around a fifty cal sniper rifle scythe takes this. At least Ruby wins her first match.
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@Friendly
well he beat the first Greed, but that was more because of knowledge of alchemy and the human body than power.
“Aside from her being nice enough to only aim at the metal bits… Exactly how is he going to “tank some of her attacks”? Much less “for a minute or two”?. -_-”
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Because he can opt to try to block with his metal bits.
Because he can opt to try to block with his metal bits.
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I mean… making a wall of dirt, stone, or metal would be immeasurably better than just hoping that she hits his arm or leg. The rifle bit isn’t the problem; he can make cover- his problem is going to be when she gets tired of shooting at him.
@Sauro: Well, he can try. I don’t know that he’s fast enough. Hell, I don’t even think his Alchemy is fast enough. Though I’m only around 10-15 episodes in (I’m assuming Anime!Ed and Manga!Ed are roughly equal) so it’s possible he’s faster by the end.
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Also RWBY is supposed to resume in August, right?
Here’s hoping it’s as good without Monty. T_T
@Epic
uhm that depends, which Anime? FullMetal Alchemist, or FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood, the former….went off the rails and I think had some different abilities, the latter is pretty much shot for shot the manga.
@Sauroposeidon
“Because he can opt to try to block with his metal bits.”
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…-_-
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That’s nice for him.
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He’d fail. Horribly.
@Shgon
Posting playlists posts the entire playlist
@Friendlysociopath
“Posting playlists posts the entire playlist”
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Well… Can’t say the feat wasn’t, somewhere, in there at least. 😳
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Meant this vid though. 😆
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I don’t know if you ever do competitive gaming or real life martial arts.. but as a guy who always rolls tank, and as someone who’s always been bigger and slower than his opponents in real life, I’ve learned that it takes almost no time to block compared to an attack. It’s not like I’m unfamiliar with Ruby. It’s that if I had metal bits, assuming they can tank her attack, I could block her attacks for a time. Up until she gets clever with them anyways. It’s extraordinarily easy to turtle it up. Now, I don’t think I, or even Edward would be able to put up any kind of effective offense, since that opens you up. At best he may be able to counter a couple of times but there’s no promise of landing a hit.
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Her speed is a nice feature she has, but it’s not THAT great. Not compared to her intelligence and ability to plot new strategies in the heat of battle. She’s repeatedly shown the ability to rapidly recognize the strengths and weaknesses of her foes, and to employ pre-planned strategies against them (such as her fight with Roman in the robot) or to make new ones up entirely (the time they killed the giant Nevermore).
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This is why I think Edward will survive for a short period, but she’ll eventually defeat him. Again, assuming his metal parts can tank her attacks. If they can’t.. well, then he goes down pretty much immediately.
@Sauroposeidon
“I don’t know if you ever do competitive gaming or real life martial arts.. but as a guy who always rolls tank, and as someone who’s always been bigger and slower than his opponents in real life, I’ve learned that it takes almost no time to block compared to an attack. It’s not like I’m unfamiliar with Ruby. It’s that if I had metal bits, assuming they can tank her attack, I could block her attacks for a time. Up until she gets clever with them anyways. It’s extraordinarily easy to turtle it up. Now, I don’t think I, or even Edward would be able to put up any kind of effective offense, since that opens you up. At best he may be able to counter a couple of times but there’s no promise of landing a hit.”
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Uh… No. -_-
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Try to block all you like, it’s not going to work Vs a bullet timer. Which she is. At beast she fails to notice that his arm/leg is metal so thinks nothing of hitting them, but her next blow will cut him clean in two before he can do a bloody thing about it. Super speed is part of the basic Aura package in RWBY, and she got speed as her Semblance.
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youtu.be/PzPZ6joXq5Y?t=6m17s
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At about 9:10, I’m not kidding, she could beat him up just be running past him a few times.
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Speed wise Ed is at best a peak human.
While Ruby high speed sushi slicing Ed would be hilarious.
Can Ed do anything if Ruby just shoots him? Her gun is, to put it lightly, well above any guns in FMA in muzzle velocity and caliber. Besides being called a High Caliber Sniper Scythe it was based on the Barrett M82 originally which comes in .50 and .416 meaning it has a muzzle velocity of between over three thousand to over two thousand feet per second…..
I mean…unless they start quite a bit away from each other would anything stop her from just pumping him full of high caliber sniper rounds?
What’s the typical starting distance for these fights?
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I’m not saying she will just shoot him, but should she decide to is there anything Ed can do about it?
I’m not saying she will just shoot him, but should she decide to is there anything Ed can do about it?
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He should be able to throw up a wall of whatever element is in the ground; dirt, stone, concrete, steel etc. in the time it takes her to deploy her weapon.
Although, that’s if he notices it’s a gun- the Crescent Rose doesn’t really look like a gun most of the time.
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Pretty sure Ed has at least reacted to being shot at by doing exactly that.
@Friendly
Well he’s done it to anti-personel rounds, has he ever done it to anti-material rounds? Did they even have anti-material rounds in FMA?
Did they even have anti-material rounds in FMA?
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What?
Anti-material rounds, the kind of rounds militaries in the real world use when they want to shoot through a light armored vehicle like its tissue paper, or when they want to turn concrete/brick/cinderblock cover into dust and shrapnel.
Ruby’s Crescent Rose fires either a .50 BMG caliber or .416 Barrett caliber round. The kind of round that will…well here’s a .50 cal vs Ballistics Gel. Ed does not want to be shot by this gun scythe, there’s not going to be any “oh well at least it didn’t hit me in the heart” unless she misses or only hits his limbs…he’s basically fucked.
Anti-material rounds, the kind of rounds militaries in the real world use when they want to shoot through a light armored vehicle like its tissue paper, or when they want to turn concrete/brick/cinderblock cover into dust and shrapnel.
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I want to say his walls should be able to tank that… I know FMA has sniper rifles, damned if I know what kind though. They do have tanks and mortars, so they’re at least familiar with the idea of armor.
Though the Tanks were relatively new so I don’t know if Amestris had said “hey, lets make a sniper rifle that can shoot through those armored vehicles we just made” yet.
Seems like the tanks would have to have seen major widespread use in wars from multiple sides before that happened, and as far as we know Amestris is the only nation that’s even started making tanks.
I’m looking around for images, I found this image of Riza with one
vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/fma/images/d/d4/Sniper2.png/revision/latest?cb=20141225201843
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That rifle looks very similar to the Karabiner 98k Sniper variant used by Germans in WW1 which fires the 7.92×57mm Mauser, an anti-personnel round.
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Ruby can travel at at least the speed of sound, and I wouldn’t be surprised if she was some measure of highly hypersonic. Mind you, this was just from the food-fight scene.
“Ruby can travel at at least the speed of sound, and I wouldn’t be surprised if she was some measure of highly hypersonic.”
So does it seem like putting her up against the manga version of ProtoMan.EXE would be a decent match?
Also she has gravity bullets right? Does Ed have a way to deal with those?
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www.mangahere.co/manga/megaman_nt_warrior/v02/c001/8.html
Scan where Chaud mentions ProtoMan’s speed
gravity bullets? I don’t recall that.
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I’m not sure if she can handle a Megaman character. Though good fight would probably be someone like Samurai Jack, or Guts…maybe Kirito’s avatar forms since he does block a 50 cal from close range with a lightsaber….similar badass humans that can do things no human should be able to.
@Aelfinn: Where did you get the idea that Ruby is supersonic?
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@Batz: Weiss can increase gravity. Ruby might be able to shoot through one of Weiss’ runes to make it happen, but it hasn’t yet.
“Can Ed do anything if Ruby just shoots him?”
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I don’t think her bullets are that strong. Despite her love for weapons, she’s still kind of a newbie. Compare her .50 calibur round’s punch to CoCo’s minigun, which is likely firing something closer to 7-9mm. I can’t quantify how strong they are, but they’re not doing stuff that real life .50 cal rounds should do.. like rip your entire god damn arm off with a single hit.
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“Ruby can travel at at least the speed of sound, and I wouldn’t be surprised if she was some measure of highly hypersonic. Mind you, this was just from the food-fight scene.”
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I don’t think she’s hypersonic. I don’t think she’s ever made a sonic boom.
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“At about 9:10, I’m not kidding, she could beat him up just be running past him a few times”
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I don’t know if you understand what running is, or if you don’t understand what she’s doing there, which wasn’t running.. but she’s never hurt anyone by running past them to my memory.
“Where did you get the idea that Ruby is supersonic?”
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Two reasons: her simply landing caused a massive crater to appear in the wall behind her (and she didn’t even touch it). The only thing that could have cause this is a shockwave of air, which by its very definition is supersonic. The second reason is that, through sheer speed, she created a vacuum wherein all the food in the room followed her. Again, the only possible thing that could cause this is her going supersonic, as that’s what happens when you go supersonic: a small vacuum opens behind you. It’s why a bull-whip cracks. The sound of the air rushing back in to the vacuum creates the cracking sound. To create a vacuum THAT big would require a LOT of speed.
Ah. For some reason I had thought that her Cross Clips used Gravity Dust.
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Limiting it to Pre-Dark Power ProtoMan might help even it out, because there’s no way she can beat Muramasa Style or Epilogue ProtoMan.
Hmm, I had thought that Ruby might be a bit much for Ed to handle, but I figured that it’s practically BankGambling tradition to have a character getting their debut to kick the shit out of a more well known one.
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Ah well, maybe I’ll suggest one with Teams JNPR and RWBY vs the Homunculae.
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Would that be more even?
So I take it Ruby won? What with the superspeed and the sniper scythe?
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Let’s Who’s next yang, wiess, the whole gang?…. Oh, well that, okay. I geuss that could work. I mean one of them beat a guy to death with his own skull and her daughter is pretty quick. Meh.
“Two reasons: ”
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Did you consider the third reason, that it’s a cartoon fueled by the rule of cool?
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“So I take it Ruby won?”
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Yeah we’re currently sitting on Ruby winning this one.
@Sauroposeidon
“Did you consider the third reason, that it’s a cartoon fueled by the rule of cool?”
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…Have you considered that your blatantly just ignoring facts based solely on the fact you don’t like them?
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Go troll elsewhere.
Ah well, maybe I’ll suggest one with Teams JNPR and RWBY vs the Homunculae.
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That seems decently cool- numbers might be a bit wonky though aren’t they?
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Ruby moves fast enough that people can’t follow it and think she’s teleporting; and her ‘power’ is all about speed- that’s her thing.
I wonder how Teams RWBY, JNPR and CFVY would do in the AoT verse/if they’d contribute anything to the humans defending the walls.
As for the bullet timing thing here…
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youtu.be/ImKCt7BD4U4
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Has Blake(slower then Ruby) blocking bullets with her weapons at about the 1:53ish range.
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Mind, all the vol 1 trailers are both canon and set before the main story even started.
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Might feat hunt through Vol 2 some other time, don’t have enough time to at the moment.
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No idea what about that post might of cause such, but it will show eventually.
@Jake: Probably. I mean, CoCo bifurcated three Giant Nevermores. I’d say each team could probably take down a Titan each; depending on the type it might not take that much.
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@Aelfinn: Ah, I didn’t actually know that a sonic boom was a small vacuum.
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@Sauro: You’re forgetting that all the characters and their enemies are blatantly superhuman.
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She’s not technically running, sure. It’s an expression.
“…Have you considered that your blatantly just ignoring facts based solely on the fact you don’t like them?”
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I’m just sayin’, Monty did shit because it was cool, and he didn’t really care about things like logic.. I just don’t think she’s intended to be super sonic. Not yet anyways.
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“I wonder how Teams RWBY, JNPR and CFVY would do in the AoT verse/if they’d contribute anything to the humans defending the walls.”
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Titans would be treated like Grim if Beacon was around, but would not be considered more dangerous than them. It helps that they all have automatic weapons. Even Nora. Who has A GRENADE LAUNCHER. And they’ve never seen the likes of CoCo’s purse.. which would shred entire armies of Titans..
“@Sauro: You’re forgetting that all the characters and their enemies are blatantly superhuman.”
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No. I just don’t think her .50 cals are quite military grade yet. This is based primarily on a comparison of her .50 rifle to CoCo’s gun, which shouldn’t be firing bigger rounds than it but is doing much more damage. By the time she’s in second year I’m sure she’ll have modified her rounds to be stronger.. but right now I don’t think they’re up to that level yet.
I wonder how Teams RWBY, JNPR and CFVY would do in the AoT verse/if they’d contribute anything to the humans defending the walls.
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They’d likely not have issues with most Titans; small smidgen of doubt for the special ones but otherwise they should be quite capable of taking them down once they figure out the neck thing.
@Sauro: “This is based primarily on a comparison of her .50 rifle to CoCo’s gun”
Didn’t you literally just say RWBY is based on Rule of Cool? And then you immediately try to apply logic.
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Also, don’t forget Vevet’s weapon. Which is apparently so awesome the invasion of Vale wasn’t a worthy occasion to use it.
“Didn’t you literally just say RWBY is based on Rule of Cool? And then you immediately try to apply logic.”
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There is logic on occasion. First year students don’t tend to be as good or as strong or as well equipped as second year students. If all tech were equal then Ruby’s gun should be stronger than CoCo’s, but it’s not. I attribute this to her crafting skill. Of course, it could be CoCo’s aura enhances her attacks too, and she just has better control over it. Either way, I don’t feel like Ruby’s .50 cal has shown to be as strong as real life ones yet.
” Ah, I didn’t actually know that a sonic boom was a small vacuum.”
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I believe a sonic boom is just the air itself going supersonic, but I know for a fact that I have at least heard the vacuum explanation for the bullwhip. The wiki page of sonic booms, though, mentions the negative pressure that exists behind the supersonic object, so that’s a thing.
@Sauroposeidon
“Either way, I don’t feel like Ruby’s .50 cal has shown to be as strong as real life ones yet.”
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Maybe it’s my lack of gun knowledge, but are .50 cals know for blasting off half a human-sized midriff? Her’s does at about 1:18 in the “Red” trailer, and note: it hit the far edge of said midriff. she then does only slightly less to another right after.
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Also, like I posted earlier, Blake blocks point blank automatic gunfire in her trailer. Given that Aura doesn’t come with precog, that means bullet timing.
@Shgon: Yang casually punches cars 50 feet into Grimm. At base level power (AFAIK).
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Hell, basically everybody blocks point-blank gunfire. Or dodges it. Or tanks it.
@Epicazeroth
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I know, I just haven’t had the time to hunt through the show for other speed feats, so been leaving them for later. The trailers have some good ones, and don’t take too long to load and watch, so their pretty good for a little quick feat hunting. 😆
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And yeah, there’s at least a chance Ruby could just rip his metal bits clean off with her bare hands thanks to her aura, but it’s not really her style, so didn’t see much point in mentioning it… Yet. 😛
@Shgon: She might just kick him; she does that a lot. How durable is Ed? Because Ruby’s default attack (against a single opponent) is to blitz and strike repeatedly.
I think its more than a bit obvious, as pointed out by just about everyone above this comment, that Ruby wins.
Honestly, I haven’t seen many episodes of FMA or RWBY respectively, but as far as I can tell, Elric’s out of his league no matter what.