All Characters in all Fiction ever Vs God

All characters in all fiction ever Vs God

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Darkseid, Galactus, Superman, all of WH40k and the Chaos Gods, Dr Who, the Timelords, Q, all of the Star Wars Galactic Empire, all Pokemon, Luke Skywalker, Godzilla, every character ever written ever will go up against God. Yes. That one. He that is. The Alpha and the Omega. Creator of Everything and Judge at the End of All Time. The Omniscient. The Omnipotent. The Transcendent and The Immanent. The Divine. A being possessed of perfect, infinite, divine power subject only to its own Sovereign Will.

What transpires?

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451 Comments on "All Characters in all Fiction ever Vs God"

  1. Friendlysociopath July 29, 2015 at 12:05 am -      #1

    I’ve been meaning to ask about this every time I saw it on the calendar- what’s the point of this match?

  2. AbsoluteZero July 29, 2015 at 12:05 am -      #2

    Lucifer Morningstar declares, “Fuck this noise, not again.” tears a hole in the fabric of the debate and exits through it, and leaves everyone else to be annhilated.

  3. hellboy147 July 29, 2015 at 12:21 am -      #3

    God Solos

  4. AbsoluteZero July 29, 2015 at 12:28 am -      #4

    This really does seem like an utterly pointless matchup. It’s possibly the ultimate roflstomp.

  5. Soulerous July 29, 2015 at 12:29 am -      #5

    what’s the point of this match?” -Good question.

  6. Alpha or Omega July 29, 2015 at 12:33 am -      #6

    Really unnecessary and pointless.

  7. sadot06 July 29, 2015 at 12:43 am -      #7

    At best, this ends in a stalemate because characters in fiction have become God or there was a specific character that is God. Which one are we talking about anyway? The One Above All? The Source? Christian God? Christian God? Can a true omni be killed if multiple omin’s are working together?

    God makes most of the characters disappear with a thought so this is basically about all the mulitversal and omni characters against this God.

  8. Commander Cross July 29, 2015 at 12:44 am -      #8

    Deadlock-Or-Deletion: The Smackdown!!!
    This don’t look like either a fair or square fight, really.
    Something tells me that sending a Tag Team of Jesus Christ(at his most powerful, but he’s NOT ‘Grandpa God Himself’ for obvious reasons) and (The Original!-)Composite Merlin with neither having PIS would have been a fairer fight, really.
    Combat-wise, Even the likes of Jesus/Yaysus Christ(The Aeon Christ/The Chief Cornerstone/The Lord Junior) and (The Original!-)Merlin combined can’t expect to do Jack$hit against The Big-G Man/The Lord Senior/The Supreme Monad/’Grandpa God’ Himself.
    The best they can do is work to talk ‘Grandpa God’ out of this, and hope He Listens.

    I can note this in regards to Gaia Online and If this match is viewed as Payback:

    Naruto and his world gets Godsmacked by ‘Grandpa God Almighty’ Himself, no one cares how much Paolini or Kishimoto wanna say otherwise, if his world can’t get past both Jesus Christ + (Original!-) Merlin at the same time, that world should either just beg-for-mercy or delete itself from existence.
    Gaia Online will not save them this time.
    The rest of the Power Six ought to just stay out of it if they value their existences, Evacuations are allowed but anything else is a BIG NO.

    If ‘Grandpa God’ sends the following to do this, Jesus Christ/The Aeon Christ alone deadlocks just The Dresden Files alone at the very least since he’s (Original!-) Merlin’s Equal in Supernatural Might, and The Butcher Side can only deadlock with ‘Junior’s Dad’/Creator in The Big-G Man or they die horribly, sadly speaking.

    Super Robot Wars either Stalemates or Embraces Deletion, same thing with Tenchi Muyo or Gurren Lagann to say nada on Saint Seiya.

    The Potter-world and Dot Hack have only two real options, ‘Leave the Premises and Evacuate, or Kneel and Submit,’ anything else beyond this ends with deletion sadly speaking since all the Magic in both worlds requires Divine Access Keys to be welcome. T_T

    If anyone be so reasonable as to read the quote on this Link below from The Quran(the least mutilated of the 3 ‘best-known’ Abrahamic Texts), you learn to see why having no Divinities permit Magical use is a horrid idea.

    Without The Big-G Man Himself interfering, all the other worlds better hope to go by ‘Combat-by-Champion’ and hope to the Mega-verse it’s not a HAX-STOMP in The Heavens’ Favors.

    I’d go on with this post with more understatements, but all you’d need to hear from me are this:
    One, ‘Grandpa God either gets Deadlocked, Reasoned With or Everyone Else gets Deleted, and Two with two key words starting, Xeiro Flora WILL NOT BE HAPPY ABOUT IT!!!’

    That’s all I wanna say in this post thanks ever so much, Heavenly Peace And Mercy Be With Us All instead of Deletion. 😀

  9. Nobunaga Jin July 29, 2015 at 12:45 am -      #9

    Was this made because of the “The Presence” page on the BankGambling wiki?

    Also…uh…Hm…maybe…Probably not, but what about SCP-682? So far, that one seems to be the most likely to survive the longest.

  10. Alpha or Omega July 29, 2015 at 12:47 am -      #10

    Technically, there won’t be a stalemate because of the way an omnipotent is.
    It’s a mess on both sides.
    Urgh

  11. Ninja Lowk July 29, 2015 at 12:58 am -      #11

    So it finally happened.
    The answer of course is Batman. I don’t know who will win or what will happen but my answer is batman. Arkham Knight was really fun by the way.

  12. Ciridae Hunter July 29, 2015 at 1:27 am -      #12

    God is a sadist, so he’ll do a Sephiroth and make it seem like the allies are winning, then he’ll kill them while killing countless of his own followers for giggles.

  13. Alpha or Omega July 29, 2015 at 1:36 am -      #13

    It may not seem like it, but this match is going to escalate.

  14. Ninja Lowk July 29, 2015 at 1:40 am -      #14

    “It may not seem like it, but this match is going to escalate.”

    Well now your just jinxing it.

  15. Ciridae Hunter July 29, 2015 at 1:41 am -      #15

    It looks more like a theist trap than anything else; I would normally rise to the bait, but it usually leads to zealotry so I’m going to sit this one out.

    “The answer of course is Batman”

    LoL, that is a good comment

  16. Alpha or Omega July 29, 2015 at 1:48 am -      #16

    I believe there’s a difference between jinxing it and foreseeing a storm brewed by mankind.

  17. AbsoluteZero July 29, 2015 at 1:52 am -      #17

    Let’s have a look at the feats.

    God is omnipotent, omniscient and omni everything really. Including omnisexual.

    HOWEVER. Can we trust that? We only have knowledge of the breadth of God’s power, from God. Thus, can we trust that God isn’t lying about his/her/it/sglee/sgler, abilities.

    Let’s have a look at the facts.

    Satan/Iblis/Lucifer/The Devil/Samael.

    The Devil still exists, even while God does nothing. This implies that either God allows The Devil to exist, or is incapable of defeating the Devil. Seeing as the Devil was created by God and fell from grace, The Devil should be completely under God’s dominion. The only explanation is that God allows The Devil to operate. But, God is stated numerous times in having cursed the devil, and even locking the Devil away to await judgement. Which is the purpose of Judgement Day.

    In fact, God isn’t even the one who explictly fights The Devil on judgement day. That duty is handed off to the Archangel Michael (Who exists in most all religions that trace their roots back to judaism) implying that God needs a warrior defender.

    If we look at the various texts that outline God, we’re looking at a really biased picture. While they may outline God’s feats and abilities, we really have to trust Word Of God in order to have a real ability to gauge them. Can we be -sure- that God created all things? Only God can tell us. Word of God says that’s what happened, but can we trust Word of God? God frequently leads people down the wrong path for shits and giggles.

    God claims to have made all of creation in seven days. But, according to physics, this is impossible. It took billions of years for creation to properly condense, and the process is going today. Ergo, God is a liar.

  18. Ciridae Hunter July 29, 2015 at 2:05 am -      #18

    “God claims to have made all of creation in seven days.”

    But then some could claim “what does an immortal, undying being consider a day to be?” What is a day for a being that can’t age, can’t grow older or younger and can’t die? A fly only lives for a day, but how does a fly look at its lifespan?

    Perhaps the Archangels (including the fallen angels) were simply channels for God to physically manifest his will? People should be punished by God for their sins, thus he creates a channel to punish sinners by making Lucifer. Gabriel is his will and his messenger, Michael is his wrath and his power, and so on. That is the most logical conclusion for why the Angels are so different; Judgement Day could simply be the reforming of the One Being by bringing together all of the powers of God.

    Like I said, this is a theist trap; keep in mind the different views, then disregard them for your own views-ready, go!

  19. AbsoluteZero July 29, 2015 at 2:08 am -      #19

    I have no religious views. I’m just trying to make the most circular argument possible. For instance..

    We can only trust word of God for feats, but we can’t trust word of God because it’s word of God.

  20. Commander Cross July 29, 2015 at 2:29 am -      #20

    @Ciradae Hunter at #12

    You myth-take ‘Grandpa God’ for The Gnostic Demiurge, The Devil’s Confirmed Equal in Power I’m afraid.

    ‘Grandpa God’ is closer to ‘The Truth’ from Full Metal Alchemist(or was it the other way around?) and ‘The Truth’ has more in common with ‘Grandpa God’s Worst rather than at his Best when you first see ‘The Truth’ really.

    If you want a Sadistic God, either look at The Gnostic Demiurge or look at The Godhand’s Boss from Berserk whom I will not name aloud because that’s going to Walking Spoiler territory.
    All I’ll say on that bit is that Father from Full Metal Alchemist is what happens when you combine elements of The Gnostic Demiurge and The Abrahamic Devil together in fact, far from the only example to name but he’s the most obvious we’d know of.

    @AbsoluteZero at #17

    ‘Grandpa God’ allowed Both The Abrahamic Devil AND The Gnostic Demiurge to exist on the root cause of ‘If there is No Evil, How Can One Understand What Is Good?’
    the last time I checked.

    A better-suited question to ask is the Angels’ own Divine case of ‘The Chicken or The Egg’ question, in which case instead ‘Did The Eldest Angels Exist BEFORE ‘Grandpa God’ Himself Did, or is it the Other Way Around?’
    Keep in mind that question I just copied is a loaded question Even by ‘Chicken and Egg Variants’ standards in fact, and only a chosen few would ever be allowed to know the truth without their minds turning to Ectoplasm or worse.

    —-

    @Everyone Else

    Let’s go with showings according to Krishna’s Past Times if anyone has copies of that tome on them, and according to The Gnostic Texts like the Nag Hammadi or The Codex Askewianus and even take notes from Monadology based on what they said about The Supreme Monad shall we?

    Also yes, these things from the above-noted Texts are ACTUAL CANON, they’re required to have a hope in understanding how ‘Grandpa God’ operates and aren’t as easy to screw with as is The Christian Bible, not even by The Devil’s or The Gnostic Demiurge’s hands.

    You wanna add stuff from the 3 ‘best-known’ Abrahamic Religions to the mix?
    Deadlock or Deletion and in this case, not much of a contest either way as the alternate to Deadlock that isn’t Submission or Escape is too atrocious to contemplate.

    On the Two Fronts between Cosmic and Mortality, It should also be noted that The Abrahamic Devil and The Gnostic Demiurge are the most offensively guilty of tampering with The Christian Bible in spite of Jesus Christ’s best efforts on the Cosmic Side, and King James and Half of the Catholic Church are Mortal Humanity’s Biggest Offenders known.
    ‘Thou Shalt Not Suffer A Witch To Live?’(King James version of The Christian Bible)
    Seriously if there was a ‘Benevolent Spirit’ under the message, it’s been badly tampered with by Malice and Hate at the King James Version, and that’s from the second half of The Exodus after Moses got his people out of Old Egypt.
    (The Named Offenders I’ve listed out have had some hand in this, no doubt.)

    Oh there’s no doubt that there may be others out there who are responsible for screwing with The Christian Bible worse-for-wear but since we don’t have an in-depth list, attempting to hunt the rest of the in-depth list down is a moot point at best.
    Better to sort out what we CAN DO to fix this problem and how we want to get it done, which no one’s agreed on the specifics of it yet.
    The above-noted offenders I’ve listed are the only offenders we know of, so far.

  21. Ciridae Hunter July 29, 2015 at 2:42 am -      #21

    King James is what happens when fame and self-image are the most important part of a practitioner of Faith’s views. I imagine Tom Cruise would be the same if he had a religious influence (or if anyone likes him).

  22. andrew July 29, 2015 at 4:27 am -      #22

    you are aware that one of those fictional characters is on both sides of the battle, right?

  23. Kitten Lord July 29, 2015 at 4:34 am -      #23

    Not sure who this God character is but I think Kain solos, I am sure we all agree God would not be able to get through Kains durability!

  24. AbsoluteZero July 29, 2015 at 4:37 am -      #24

    Honestly Kitten. I think you’re joking. But I had to re-read that a few times to be sure.

  25. Kitten Lord July 29, 2015 at 4:44 am -      #25

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  26. Nsl98 July 29, 2015 at 7:04 am -      #26

    God stomps, pointless match up is pointless.

  27. Blaze July 29, 2015 at 8:01 am -      #27

    The panzer elite will solo! (oh blaze you are such funny).I wonder does god have power over things that are nearly gods,like ascended beings from stargate?(its just for this fight)And other (fictional) gods will be able to fight in this battle?i mean like the titans from warcraft,aedra and daedra from TES.But i think this match is pointless becoz it could be that god delete everybodys existence,or akatosh deleting time ….This is pointless someone wil surely BFR the other side

  28. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 9:21 am -      #28

    I don’t wanna be “that guy” But team 1 is ALL fictional characters. Which, when you get right down to it, would mean that the entirety of team 2 is also in team 1.

    Which means that it is impossible for team 2 to “roflstomp” since it would have to beat itself…

    God as presented in team 2 has also been written into multiple different fictions meaning that team one not only has team 2 on their team, but hundreds of different incarnations of team 2.

    Since omnipotence is omnipotence that really does not mean anything, but there is no possible way for team 2 to win.

    Team one wins eventually due to batman.

  29. AbsoluteZero July 29, 2015 at 9:25 am -      #29

    “Team one wins eventually due to batman.”

    ..but isn’t Batman team two?

  30. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 9:28 am -      #30

    If he is, superman is gonna have a bad time.

  31. Klondike Bar July 29, 2015 at 9:29 am -      #31

    Team one is fictional characters they don’t get batman. Don’t be silly. Unless. Are you saying he is not real? NOooooooooooooooooooooo. Who will protect gotham during the night whyyy? You monster. You destroyed my innocence curse you for all time Lady Ramkin!

    Damit ninjad. You ruind my sad speech Absolute zero. Curse you too.

  32. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 9:32 am -      #32

    Hey calm down, Batman is legit, It’s just that when his story was chronicled it got a little exaggerated, hence he counts a fictional character for the purposes of debate.

    Just like sherlock holmes and Son Goku

  33. Klondike Bar July 29, 2015 at 9:35 am -      #33

    Hooray. Batman forever! But wait Lady Ramkin. This means that if team two asks for help from real world then they have batman as well. If batman fights himself…. Run for your lives!!!!!! Team three is comeing in!

  34. AbsoluteZero July 29, 2015 at 9:36 am -      #34

    Absolute Zero: Ruining Speeches 2015.

  35. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 9:37 am -      #35

    Well, both teams have at least one omnipotent so they essentially both have infinite batman’s

  36. Kitten Lord July 29, 2015 at 9:40 am -      #36

    Why not debate this thread like any other? get the feats for this “god”, if its the christan god, he created everything in 7 days, but did he not take a whole day to make earth? Did he not also have to rest?

    That is only a creation feat. What feats do other godlike beings have in other universes?

    Also MO could come up. What if one omnipotent being has the MO to more likely destroy another?

  37. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 9:48 am -      #37

    Word of god… lol… says that god is omnipotent…. Which…. in this particular case…. could be interoperated simply as god boasting. And not as an actual factual statement.

    Also, god has a distinct weakness to iron chariots, and is apparently powerless against them, so a single tank should do the job really.

  38. Kitten Lord July 29, 2015 at 9:51 am -      #38

    Could mean all sorts of things. Omnipotent also has a definition which only means “great power”, not necessarily unlimited.

    Having unlimited power and knowing what to do with it in a fight is also arguable.

  39. pimpmage July 29, 2015 at 9:52 am -      #39

    STTGL beats god. These mechs create big bangs in seconds. god took a week. Taking time to do something outright means you are not omnipotent. For a mech to do the same thing millions of times faster, mech trumps god.

  40. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 9:56 am -      #40

    “Taking time to do something outright means you are not omnipotent”

    Well, it might not have necessarily required time, he was just like, let there be light and poof there it was. He did wait between creating specific things. but me might not have needed too.

    That day of rest does not look god for him though
    – – –
    “Having unlimited power and knowing what to do with it”

    Also stated to be omniscient…. by himself…. wait… pretty much every feat we have for god is what he says he did… Did he provide any proof? Are we too just take his word for it? why? He cant lie? how do we know that, oh right HE TOLD US?

  41. pimpmage July 29, 2015 at 10:05 am -      #41

    GEoM stalemates god because he also claimed omnipotence.

  42. Nsl98 July 29, 2015 at 10:08 am -      #42

    @Ramkin
    That day of rest does not look god for him though

    That day of rest was to show humanity the day they had to rest and worship God. It’s the day that they were supposed to take a break from worldy labors.

    Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.
    -Leviticus 23:3

    He was setting a precedent for mankind.

  43. pimpmage July 29, 2015 at 10:12 am -      #43

    That is an interpretation nsl. He still took time to accomplish something and then rested.

  44. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 10:13 am -      #44

    Also, which creation account are we going with?

    skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/accounts.html

    Do we just assume that the second one retcons the first one? The second one is the iconic one that everyone quotes.

    OH SNAP, what if BOTH ACCOUNTS ARE ACCURATE. And the bible is actually a mishmash telling of two separate timelines. And all the inconsistency and hypocrisy can simply be attributed to different things happening in different timelines!!!!

  45. Nsl98 July 29, 2015 at 10:15 am -      #45

    How is it interpretation if it’s written in the Bible? I literally quoted it for you.

  46. Kitten Lord July 29, 2015 at 10:17 am -      #46

    @Lady

    “Also stated to be omniscient”

    So he knows “everything”. Even knowing everything, what is your “next” action after knowing everything? would not knowing everything confuse the situation unless you could argue that includes knowing what to do….

    But he did not seem to just use his omnipotence to instantly create “everything”, no need of 7 days if you can do it in seconds.

    “pretty much every feat we have for god is what he says he did… Did he provide any proof? Are we too just take his word for it? why? He cant lie? how do we know that, oh right HE TOLD US?”

    True though.

  47. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 10:19 am -      #47

    “How is it interpretation if it’s written in the Bible? I literally quoted it for you.”

    It is said that god rested and that the seventh day should be holy, it is your interpretation that he rested BECAUSE he wanted to show people that the seventh day should be holy.

    I would also like to point out that not all Christians believe the same thing and they have the same holy book, so they must all be interoperating it differently.

    Which means that we can not for the purposes of debate pick one interpretation and say that it is true because we have no idea, we have to look at the bible from and outside perspective and then determine feats as we go.

  48. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 10:24 am -      #48

    “no need of 7 days”

    Well… he made the sun and the moon on the fourth day. which means that until that point “days” as we know them did not actually exist.
    – – –
    I also find it mildly amusing that in this day and age we do not consider the creation of the entire universe in 7 days all that impressive.
    “He had to rest? What a loser”

  49. Kara Zor-El July 29, 2015 at 10:28 am -      #49

    But God is part of a work of Fiction… is God on both teams?

  50. pimpmage July 29, 2015 at 10:40 am -      #50

    Yup.

  51. Nsl98 July 29, 2015 at 10:43 am -      #51

    @Ramkin
    it is your interpretation that he rested BECAUSE he wanted to show people that the seventh day should be holy.

    Nope.

    And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work he had made.
    -Genesis 2:3

    Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the Lord that sanctify them.
    -Ezekiel 20:12

  52. Commander Cross July 29, 2015 at 11:01 am -      #52

    What I know is concrete is that ‘Grandpa God’ isn’t a Religion in of Himself, or at least isn’t MEANT to be a Religion onto Himself contrary to popular belief.
    Anyone else saying otherwise is some kind of deceiver the last I checked?

    Also, who’s to say that a Single Full Hour in the Heavens won’t register as a Few Hundred Years’ worth?
    Or am I mistaking that for a single moment in The Heavens, which a Moment to us is 90 Seconds while a Moment to them is ‘Still a lot of Years’ or something?

    @LadyRamkin at #44

    I’d propose we go with the accounts noted in Krishna’s Past Times or the Various Gnostic Texts personally, generally less migraine-inducing and the only ‘surefire’ way for a True Fantasy Kitchen Sink regard is The Apocalypse Itself, which the Catholic Church also tampered with The Books of Revelations for in some way or another.
    Plus if we go with those two sets of accounts, there’s a lot less Horse$hit to worry about unless all those versions of all those Abrahamic Texts take place in Several Timelines.
    Which to be fair I’m in utter support of multiple timelines almost as much as (Original!-)Merlin(Christ’s Equal-in-Power-yet-Senior-in-Age.) happens to be, but it makes me wonder how messed up our Timelines are when we think about it.

    With who knows how many ‘Realities’ to each of them are active.

    Then again, MOST Fallen Angels I’d know of would just sit this matter out unless they’re getting others evacuated out of the way, but then again even the Non-Malicious Ones are often Wild Cards of some type or another.

    NO I don’t know if we have too many Witch Princesses out there nowadays to make sense out of matters, but even then a ‘Normal’ Witchling’s meant to be a Priestess(and the occasional Priest King with Priest Princes being scarce) in their own right, and a Witch Princess is basically a Princess of Priestesses with more liberties than a High Priestess in spite of usually having Equal or Greater Supernatural Power.

    Yeah, someone’s having an aching brain reading all that, I know it’s not me.

    May I remind you that it’s likely that Humanity as we know it is a Fictitious Work in everyone else’s eyes, and that Adam and Eve were likely Spacenoids all along who bred with Earthbound Denizens?

    @Nsl98 at #51

    The last time I checked, there’s Some kind of Context to World-Crafting and Sanctifying for those days, and those Days in the Heavens are different from what we’d call Days In-Planet actually.

  53. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 11:12 am -      #53

    @Kara
    “But God is part of a work of Fiction… is God on both teams?”

    I already said that in #28

  54. Ragnorke July 29, 2015 at 11:13 am -      #54

    I’d like to point out that the Match Description specifically mentioned an OMNIPOTENT God.
    Whether it took the Christian god 7 days to make Earth & rest is irrelevant.

    Omnipotent means omnipotent. It means existing as everything & nothing, controlling everything, having no beginning or end, unlimited power.

    You literally can’t top omnipotence. If you do, the being wasn’t actually omnipotent.

  55. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 11:17 am -      #55

    “I’d like to point out that the Match Description specifically mentioned an OMNIPOTENT God.”

    Well if we can’t use feats to support god, and he is just given omnipotence via the match description then this entire match is a farce.

    It may as well be “All fictional characters vs…. Arnold (Hey Arnold) but Arnold is omnipotent.

  56. Kara Zor-El July 29, 2015 at 11:17 am -      #56

    @TawdryBumpkin (Sowwie xD)
    _
    I just skimmed a few of the posts as this seems like a cluster fuck thread. My bad.

  57. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 11:19 am -      #57

    @Kara Zor-El
    HEY! LISTEN! You better WATCH OUT, because I aint taking this bumpkin stuff anymore.

  58. pimpmage July 29, 2015 at 12:02 pm -      #58

    “I’d like to point out that the Match Description specifically mentioned an OMNIPOTENT God”

    I think you misunderstood the match description rag. He listed off titles of this god. And god self proclaimed himself to be these things. This does not mean he is these things. OP didn’t specifically grant it omnipotence. It’s a self proclaimed title.

    I honestly think this is a match OP made to get his religious dick hard. He seemed like he enjoyed listing of titles. God gets stomped by actual gods here.

  59. Spectral Observer July 29, 2015 at 12:44 pm -      #59

    Damn. Someone really nailed it with this match.

  60. pimpmage July 29, 2015 at 12:56 pm -      #60

    I hope this thread does not get resurrected from the dead.

  61. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 1:08 pm -      #61

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  62. Friendlysociopath July 29, 2015 at 1:21 pm -      #62

    He listed off titles of this god.

    “A being possessed of perfect, infinite, divine power subject only to its own Sovereign Will.”

    He makes it pretty clear it’s an Omnipotent in this debate- that’s not God’s words.

    Omnipotents vs Omnipotents can’t happen- that’s why we ban the things in universal matches.
    That said, I’m personally not dealing with this match anymore.

  63. pimpmage July 29, 2015 at 1:29 pm -      #63

    “That one. He that is. The Alpha and the Omega. Creator of Everything and Judge at the End of All Time. The Omniscient. The Omnipotent. The Transcendent and The Immanent. The Divine. A being possessed of perfect, infinite, divine power subject only to its own Sovereign Will.”

    The titles exist before and after the omnipotent bit. It’s a title. Once that is self proclaimed and subjective.

  64. erickyboo July 29, 2015 at 2:09 pm -      #64

    Abandon match! I repeat! Abandon Match! Call in a nuke!

    i.imgur.com/rlneTFy.gif

  65. Ninja Lowk July 29, 2015 at 2:31 pm -      #65

    “..but isn’t Batman team two?”

    Lol, If we are going by titles
    media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2015/07/batmannewgod-144509.jpg
    Then yes.

  66. Mea quidem sententia July 29, 2015 at 2:47 pm -      #66

    Yahweh can be killed by other gods. We see other gods being judged and sentenced to death in Psalm 82. Yahweh stands in the midst of other gods in the divine council and judges them for their injustice. These are sons of the Most High, who in Ugaritic literature would have been the chief god.

    So these sons of God are sentenced to death. This is theocide. So Yahweh can be killed, but that probably relies on the power of another god. This is the more accurate representation of the Judeo-Christian god. The belief in God changed over time so he had omni-powers. This seems to have occurred during the post-Exilic period.

    Well, a more accurate picture of Yahweh is that he was a son of El, the chief god in Canaanite pantheon and was a war god and storm god who competed with Ba’al.

  67. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 2:49 pm -      #67

    soooooooooo…
    +1 for team 1? I can live with that.

  68. TrialofFire July 29, 2015 at 2:50 pm -      #68

    Lobo and Arm-Fall-Off Boy riding Magikarp solo.

  69. TrialofFire July 29, 2015 at 3:06 pm -      #69

    Wait, if this is every fictional character ever, with no limits whatsoever, then can’t I create an omnipotent Anti-God, who has the power to kill Omnipotent God? Boom. He’s fictional and written, so he goes on Team One. Solos God. Done.

    Unless there’s some copyright publishing thingy, but even then I’m sure someone can find a legitimate fictional ‘character’that works like this.

  70. Aelfinn July 29, 2015 at 3:08 pm -      #70

    I would like to point out that the Bible says God is all-powerful, and the Bible says the Bible is always correct. While I’m not religious, that’s literally dealing with absolute canon. Shit, there was a big conference hundreds of years ago that decided what parts were canon.

    Of course, there are fictions on side 1 with omnipotent beings so….stalemate. The number of omnipotent beings doesn’t even matter, as an omnipotent being can create infinite copies of themselves that are also omnipotent. So either you get a stalemate, or something happens that the human mind can’t comprehend, as every omnipotent being has to “win” at the same time.

  71. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 3:16 pm -      #71

    “I would like to point out that the Bible says God is all-powerful, and the Bible says the Bible is always correct. ”

    I would like some quotes on that.

    So far we have a high end reality warper, that can definitely tire.

  72. Ragnorke July 29, 2015 at 3:21 pm -      #72

    @Lady
    “So far we have a high end reality warper, that can definitely tire.”

    According to who…?
    I still don’t see where in the match description anyone said we’re using the Christian god.
    So why are people assuming that?

    All we’re told is that we’re using an all-powerful, limitless, omnipotent God.
    Whether you consider those titles or not doesn’t really matter, it’s ALL we know about this God.

  73. Ciridae Hunter July 29, 2015 at 3:22 pm -      #73

    “The Bible says the Bible is always right”

    But that’s like a narcissist saying they are perfect-that’s only one opinion-and maybe a cult if we look at the semi-recent suicides involving self-centered prophets to support it. It’s like me saying “I am all-knowing and I am right because I say so”. Fun to say, but not a valid argument to make

  74. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 3:25 pm -      #74

    The OP says:
    “Yes. That one.”

    Which would mean a widely know and popular god. So probably one from a monotheistic religions. And since christianity judaism and islam are the most prominent monotheistic religions and they all have the same god, it seems fair to use that one,

    And if we don’t use that one, then the debate can not continue. So we may as well until the Match suggester clarifies.

  75. Ciridae Hunter July 29, 2015 at 3:26 pm -      #75

    We’re obviously using a monotheistic God and not a being like Zeus since in the match description says “that one” and not “that hodgepodge assembly”. Allah is the same as God, the only difference being the interpretations of the stories and replacing the white-washing with brown-washing

  76. Soulerous July 29, 2015 at 3:37 pm -      #76

    I’m not getting into the details of this discussion, a lot of which I disagree with. The match is a stalemate because there are true omnipotents on each side.

  77. Nsl98 July 29, 2015 at 3:41 pm -      #77

    God is all powerful:
    But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
    -Matthew 19:26

    Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are of God.
    -Romans 13:1

    And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is to come.
    -Revelation 4:8

    Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite.
    -Psalms 147:5

    The Bible is correct:
    If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken.
    -John 10:35

    Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
    – 2 Timothy 2:15

  78. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 3:41 pm -      #78

    “because there are true omnipotents on each side.”

    We could conclusively call this a stalemate as soon as it is proven team b contains a true omnipotent.

    No proof or quotes have been provided to back that assertion yet, even though it has been assumed by pretty much everyone else.

    Quotes of omnipotence or team 1 roflysststomp’s

  79. Around999People July 29, 2015 at 3:45 pm -      #79

    I actually love this match. I don’t get why some people were saying that God ROFLstomps. Omnipotence can’t beat omnipotence.

    ~~

    On that note, since any fictional character ever is allowed I’d love to mention my Void, er, The Void.
    I created him as a game ender, basically eh ‘accidently’ created The God of Creation (pretty much the christian god), and he’s hunting him down. The Void’s infinity itself, and he exists and doesn’t exist at the same time, so, if God were to snap his fingers and erase him from existence nothing happens, and nothing happens if he makes him exist. Basically, The Void just noms the multi-verse since that’s what he wants to do, he was the first, and he will be the last.

    ~~

    No hate please ;~; I fail at the description here >

  80. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 3:48 pm -      #80

    “But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.”

    Proof that jesus is not just hyping his dad? Kids do it all the time.
    “My dad would beat your dad”
    – – –
    “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are of God.”

    God judges souls, that does not mean omnipotence.
    – – –
    “And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is to come.”

    The fuck is this?
    – – –
    “Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite.”

    So very powerful and potentially omniscient not omnipotent
    – – –
    “If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken.”

    That is an if statement, that is all i got from it
    – – –
    “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”

    Okay…. i need a translator. Anybody?

  81. Commander Cross July 29, 2015 at 3:48 pm -      #81

    I take it that nobody around here is studying from the Gnostics nor are they looking up Krishna’s Past Times by all means?
    They have the most accurate displays of The Big-G Man Himself as far as I recall, The Quran may or may not take 2nd place next those by virtue of being the least Tampered with out of all the 3 ‘best-known’ Abrahamic Texts.

    @Mea Quidem Sententia at #66

    I’ll have to ask this:
    What Version of The Christian Bible did you cite PSALM 82 from, exactly?
    It makes a Hell of a Difference to say the least, between the fact The Christian Bible gets mutilated most often on all sides in spite of the best efforts of a few groups to make amends, and we’re better off looking at showings of the God Krishna from The Mahabharata or The Supreme Monad from Monadology, as shown in Angelfire.com according to Leibniz himself.

    Those generally have The Best-Known Showings so far.

    By doing the above, we’ll have far grander context to what ‘Junior’/Jesus Christ is saying about his ‘Dad’/Creator more or less, and his ‘Dad’/Creator has been Creating stuff far longer than ‘Junior’/Christ had.
    Which given the fact that (The Original!-)Merlin is Christ’s Senior in terms of Age-wise regards and his Equal in Power but is still less powerful than Christ’s ‘Dad’/Creator, this is saying a lot.
    Like I said, Total Composite!-(Original!-)Merlin tag-teamed with Jesus Christ is a fairer fight than this Outside of ‘Deadlock or Die’ the last I checked.

    @Ciradae Hunter at #21

    Peace be with whatever Witchlings ended up getting killed for not meeting King James’ personal standards in some ways and/or not bearing him any sons. T_T

    There’s some Subtext that says that when The Big-G Man Himself permits someone to study Sorcery, He might even go so far as to Train them Personally to compensate for lost time if no better options exist.
    There’s likely quotes from The Quran on why you gotta make sure Purebred Divine-type Immortals are Passing you the Permits, my gut hunch says the fact the Permits are needed has a lot to do with an Upsurge of Dark Lords without the Permits.

  82. Soulerous July 29, 2015 at 3:49 pm -      #82

    We could conclusively call this a stalemate as soon as it is proven team b contains a true omnipotent.
    -We already know it does. The battle scenario says so, and battle scenarios reign supreme.

  83. Nsl98 July 29, 2015 at 3:52 pm -      #83

    No proof or quotes have been provided to back that assertion yet, even though it has been assumed by pretty much everyone else.

    Or you just can’t read…

    I’ll post them again:
    Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite.
    -Psalms 147:5

    And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
    -Revelations 19:6

  84. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 3:55 pm -      #84

    “Or you just can’t read…”

    1) I never stated that i could read,

    2) Your comment was not loaded on my screen while i was typing, Surely that has happened to you before

    3) Don’t be a douche, it doesn’t suit you.
    – – –
    “Psalms 147:5”

    Covered that in post #80, maybe YOU can’t read
    – – –
    “-Revelations 19:6”

    biblehub.com/revelation/19-6.htm

    You picked the one version of that where is read as omnipotent and not almighty

  85. TrialofFire July 29, 2015 at 4:00 pm -      #85

    “Quotes of omnipotence or Team 1 roflstomps.”

    —–

    How’s this:

    Yes. That one. He that is. The Alpha and the Omega. Creator of Everything and Judge at the End of All Time. The Omniscient. The Omnipotent. The Transcendent and The Immanent. The Divine. A being possessed of perfect, infinite, divine power subject only to its own Sovereign Will.
    – OP.

  86. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 4:02 pm -      #86

    @TrialofFire
    To me that reads alot more like an announcer at a wrestling match, attempting to create hype than it does as an actual attribution of feats by the OP

  87. Nsl98 July 29, 2015 at 4:03 pm -      #87

    3) Don’t be a douche, it doesn’t suit you.

    You’re right, sorry.

    The eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
    -Proverbs 15:3

    Bye bye every evil character:
    1.Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered: let them also that hate him flee before him.
    2.As smoke is driven away, so drive them away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God.

    -Psalm 68:1-2

  88. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 4:05 pm -      #88

    “The eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.”

    More evidence for hyper awareness/omniscience than omnipotence.
    – – –
    Either team 1 wins, OR team 1 ties with Team b.

    Those are the only two options, which one is true is decided entirely by whether or not Team b has an omnipotent.

    So until that is proved conclusively team 1 is winning.

  89. Soulerous July 29, 2015 at 4:07 pm -      #89

    To me that reads alot more like an announcer at a wrestling match, attempting to create hype than it does as an actual attribution of feats by the OP
    ~
    Batlle Scenarios Reign Supreme. Rule 1 of BankGambling. However it sounds, it says God is that certain way: “A being possessed of perfect, infinite, divine power subject only to its own Sovereign Will.”

  90. Nsl98 July 29, 2015 at 4:08 pm -      #90

    @Ramkin
    You picked the one version of that where is read as omnipotent and not almighty

    I don’t own every version of the Bible ever. I use the King James because that’s the one I’ve had since I got baptized and its the one my religion uses.

    Covered that in post #80, maybe YOU can’t read

    I admit it was uncalled for, I was “casting the first stone”, if you will. Sorry.

  91. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 4:10 pm -      #91

    “Sorry.”

    Im sorry i snapped back.

    Bring it in for a bro hug,
    memecrunch.com/meme/1HJJF/bro-hug/image.png

  92. Ciridae Hunter July 29, 2015 at 4:11 pm -      #92

    I thought only the sinless can cast the first stone; by acting like the Waffle of Douche-bury Commons, you break the commandment “Love Thy Neighbor”, making you a sinner.

  93. TrialofFire July 29, 2015 at 4:12 pm -      #93

    @LadyRamkin

    This is the incarnation of God that OP stated. An Omnipotent God. A being possessed of perfect, infinite, divine power subject only to its own Sovereign Will. That’s who is in the match.

  94. LadyRamkin July 29, 2015 at 4:13 pm -      #94

    “However it sounds, it says God is that certain way”

    Yeah, but how it is intended to be read is important. It is either a description OR deliberate hyperbole. But since the debate completely stops if we go with description, we should just assume hyperbole (I dont know what that actually means… but i assume i am using it right) until the OP clarifies, otherwise this match just dies.

  95. Kara Zor-El July 29, 2015 at 4:14 pm -      #95

    “To me that reads alot more like an announcer at a wrestling match”
    _
    You’re right! It’s obviously the one and only Hulkster! Huuuuulkamaaaaania Brother!

  96. Nsl98 July 29, 2015 at 4:15 pm -      #96

    @Hunter
    I thought only the sinless can cast the first stone; by acting like the Waffle of Douche-bury Commons, you break the commandment “Love Thy Neighbor”, making you a sinner.

    It’s kind of both. I judged Ramkin harshly, while at the same time not being loving.

    @Ramkin
    Bring it in for a bro hug,

    s1357.photobucket.com/user/thetweedledumb18/media/friendshipfeels_zpsea2d49c3.gif.html

  97. Ragnorke July 29, 2015 at 4:18 pm -      #97

    @Ramkin
    “The OP says:
    “Yes. That one.”
    Which would mean a widely know and popular god.”

    God: the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.
    Has nothing to do with Christianity. This is just an assumption on your part.
    “Yes. That one.” could just refer to the definition i posted, as in, supreme creator of the universe.

    “And since christianity judaism and islam are the most prominent monotheistic religions and they all have the same god, it seems fair to use that one,”

    That doesn’t seem fair at all actually. Not that i’m very passionate about this, but you’re using a very specific incarnation of the title “God” despite there being thousands if not millions out there.

    The only thing OP has told us for sure is that: A being possessed of perfect, infinite, divine power subject only to its own Sovereign Will.
    ^ He said this AFTER he was done describing him with titles.

    And the only thing we know from the most commonly used definition of the word is that God is the supreme creator of everything.

    Anything else is an assumption on your part.

    “And if we don’t use that one, then the debate can not continue”

    Who says we need to continue?
    It ends in a stalemate if team 1 has a true omnipotence.
    It ends in a win for God if team 1 doesn’t have a true omnipotence.
    Pretty straight forward.

    “We could conclusively call this a stalemate as soon as it is proven team b contains a true omnipotent.”

    You mean aside from the OPs various titles calling him that, and various DESCRIPTIONS (which were entirely seperate from titles) calling him that too?
    Also, the “they’re just titles” argument is not proven. It’s just an assumption by you.
    I for one haven’t really heard the term “Omnipotence” used as a title before. It has a pretty specific meaning.

    If anything, you need to provide quotes & proof that team 1 has a true omnipotence, since i personally don’t know of any fiction where it’s proven.
    Creators of universes doesn’t really translate to “all powerful omnipotence”.
    A character which exists everywhere & nowhere, is everything & nothing, no limits, infinite power, supreme source of all… etc etc,

    “To me that reads alot more like an announcer at a wrestling match, attempting to create hype than it does as an actual attribution of feats by the OP”

    Which is something you totally can’t prove…
    And until you do, we take it literally.

  98. Monochrome July 29, 2015 at 4:19 pm -      #98

    Are we really arguing this? Because all I see is a rather exaggerated joke match. As in the ultimate Draw that will never have a victor. Can we like I don’t know close this one out early? I mean I don’t mind I find this hilarious because it says all fiction (Didn’t say we can’t use Fanfiction *Fanfic writers everywhere shudder with glee*) But really it’s a silly idea and I must say J you are either a troll without peer or really silly because in the end TFS Mr.Popo solos because Pecking Order.

  99. TrialofFire July 29, 2015 at 4:25 pm -      #99

    @Ragnorke

    *Inserts thank you gif*

  100. Epicazeroth July 29, 2015 at 4:27 pm -      #100

    @Rag: Azathoth might be truly omnipotent. Also apparently Kami Tenchi from Tenchi Muyo.

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