Link Vs Dragonborn

Link Vs Dragonborn

Suggested by Nsl98

Link (Legend of Zelda) goes up against Dragonborn (Skyrim)

Link and the Dragonborn encounter each other ar the Grand Canyon.

Link is Hyrule Warriors.

Who will win?

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91 Comments on "Link Vs Dragonborn"

  1. Ciridae Hunter April 3, 2015 at 1:14 am -      #1

    Will the Dragonborn be able to use the shout to summon Durnehviir? What gear and what spells will the Dragonborn be able to use?

    Speed will be the winning factor for Link unless runes and the atronach/summons are amped.

  2. Commander Cross April 3, 2015 at 2:20 am -      #2

    Is this fight a Fight between Blademasters?

    Also what class is The Playable Dragonborn for a fight like this?

    Yes, specified Incarnations do matter for a fight like this the last time I checked.

    Are HW!-Link’s Weapons at Maximum Power and all that jazz?

  3. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 7:57 am -      #3

    Link is Hyrule warriors? I assume you mean standard Link and not Child Link. Is this a swords fight? If not, Can The dragon born Survive a moon falling on him. (more like a meteor than a moon, but whatever)

  4. Ragnorke April 3, 2015 at 8:12 am -      #4

    “Also what class is The Playable Dragonborn for a fight like this?”

    Since when did Skyrim have a class specific system?
    Dragonborn at full potential has access to everything, although most things are drowned in gameplay mechanics.

  5. GrandMaster April 3, 2015 at 9:38 am -      #5

    Anything stopping the Dragonborn from ripping Link’s soul out with a Soul Tear?

  6. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 9:54 am -      #6

    What is a soul year?

    How does he use it?

    How long does it take to use?

    How exactly does it do that?
    – – –
    Any of those things could potentially stop it being effective

  7. Nsl98 April 3, 2015 at 10:17 am -      #7

    Yes, it was intended to be the Dragonborn with everything.
    —-
    @Ramkin
    Link has his Hyrule Warriors gear. The small moon is a viable option here.

  8. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 10:21 am -      #8

    “Link has his Hyrule Warriors gear.”

    It’s just that There are now two different Links in Hyrule warriors

    There is the normal Link, whom i assume you mean, and there is now a DLC child Link, with different, (arguable better) gear.

    Which weapons does Link have? Can he take them all via hammer space? One of Adult links weapons is Epona, and a great fairy does he have access to either of them?

  9. Nsl98 April 3, 2015 at 10:29 am -      #9

    What makes Child Link better than regular Link?

    I thought that its been established for a while now that Link does, in fact, have hammerspace.

    @Rookie
    Awesome pics

  10. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 10:33 am -      #10

    “What makes Child Link better than regular Link?”

    Child Link can has all of the same physical feats, and resistance charms as Adult link, but he also has the fierce deity mask



    Watch till about 1 minute 20.
    Then jump to 2:54 for some speed.
    – – –
    “I thought that its been established for a while now that Link does, in fact, have hammerspace.”

    Hyrule warriors Link can only take one weapon in to battle at a time, which i think argues against that particular incarnation having hammerspace.

  11. Nsl98 April 3, 2015 at 10:50 am -      #11

    First, Child Link is freaking awesome.

    Second, I’ll stick with regular.

    Third, I guess that makes HW Link more “realistic” in regards to his hammerspace.

  12. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 10:54 am -      #12

    “First, Child Link is freaking awesome.”

    Amen, brother
    – – –
    “Second, I’ll stick with regular.”

    Fair enough
    – – –
    “Third, I guess that makes HW Link more “realistic” in regards to his hammerspace.”

    So, which weapon are you gonna give him, or are you just gonna stick with the master sword? If you like i can post a list of his weapons and what they do?

  13. Nsl98 April 3, 2015 at 11:00 am -      #13

    Well, wouldn’t he still have access to all his weapons? He’d just have to take the time to pull them out and ready them.
    —-
    And a video could be useful.

  14. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 11:11 am -      #14

    “Well, wouldn’t he still have access to all his weapons? He’d just have to take the time to pull them out and ready them.”

    In hyrule warriors Every character has some minor hammer space for their bow, bombs, boomerang and hookshot.

    But the main weapon they take into the battle they have to stick with for the entire battle they cant just pull it out of the air.

    Those are also the weakest versions of all those weapons with each having another two tiers higher than that.

  15. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 11:15 am -      #15

    “And a video could be useful.”

    The comment with the Vids is awaiting moderation.

  16. Commander Farsight April 3, 2015 at 12:01 pm -      #16

    Does Link have a counter to being slowed to a crawl? Or bring Mind controlled? Both of these only take DB long enough to day three words.

  17. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 12:16 pm -      #17

    uh……………………………………………………. no?

  18. Ragnorke April 3, 2015 at 12:19 pm -      #18

    “Both of these only take DB long enough to day three words.”

    1 word actually.
    3 words is to empower the effect. Usually just to make it last longer.
    And that’s just dragon shouts.

    As far as spells are concerned, it just takes a flick of his wrist.

    In fact, he can simultaneously cast a spell AND use a shout.
    Actually he can use 2 spells & a shout.

  19. Ragnorke April 3, 2015 at 12:21 pm -      #19

    Feel free to take a look at Legend of Zelda vs The Elderscrolls debate.
    Actually no, that debate dragged on for far too long.

    Yea Dragonborn > a dozen Links.

  20. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 12:23 pm -      #20

    So, Dragon born wins via full body, (time?) slow, and/or mind control?

  21. Friendlysociopath April 3, 2015 at 12:25 pm -      #21

    The comment with the Vids is awaiting moderation.

    The magic number is 5- exceed that and you’re automatically put into moderation.

    So this is Dragonborn with full spells, armor, and shouts? That’s… pretty nasty.

  22. Ragnorke April 3, 2015 at 12:36 pm -      #22

    “So, Dragon born wins via full body, (time?) slow, and/or mind control?”

    Tbh the spells in Elderscrolls can get pretty hax.
    And so can the Dragon Shouts.

    Having a character that can do them both simultaneously is quite ridiculous.
    Anyone that doesn’t instantly speedblitz him is gunna have a very hard time.

  23. Klondike Bar April 3, 2015 at 12:36 pm -      #23

    honestly composite dragonborn is like “you could destroy the world well lol. I have 100% damage resist.” The only thing that the dragonborn does not have going for him I think is speed.

    Also something I saw before that I was not sure if it ever was disproved was that the enchantment loop is a canon skyrim thing.

    Is this a stormcloak Dragonborn who hates elves?

  24. Friendlysociopath April 3, 2015 at 12:36 pm -      #24

    I’m with Rag, that ES vs LoZ was a hassle.

    I mean, Hyrule Warriors Link is obviously much stronger than normal Link- but Link was and will always be a (this isn’t an insult) dirty fighter who gets by with hax and special equipment.

    Just a pure Mage DB alone (love being a mage) would be impossible for Link to close in on to kill.
    Force fields, invisibility, magical traps, streams of frost to slow him down, missiles powerful enough to hurl a several ton giant/mammoth/dragon across the landscape etc.

  25. Ragnorke April 3, 2015 at 12:38 pm -      #25

    “honestly composite dragonborn is like “you could destroy the world well lol. I have 100% damage resist.”

    ^ now that’s a game mechanic. Which we do not accept on BankGambling.

    However, he can become Ethreal… Which is basically 100% damage resist… Unless the enemy can attack Ethreal targets.
    Dragonborn can’t do anything else while in that state though.

  26. Klondike Bar April 3, 2015 at 12:44 pm -      #26

    I know that it is a game mechanic, and that they can not be used. I was just stating how ridiculous the Dragonborn can get. Even though it is a game mechanic it still means that damage resist will exist. I know that Link will still do damage and stuff I was just saying that he is op. And I am slightly buthurt about the Db.

    Dragonborn can’t do anything else while in that state though

    He is able to charge a spell before releasing it.

  27. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 12:46 pm -      #27

    Is there anyway to make this not a stomp? or is this match just dead now?

  28. Friendlysociopath April 3, 2015 at 12:48 pm -      #28

    Is there anyway to make this not a stomp?

    Different version of Link would make it debatable at least.

    or is this match just dead now?

    You win some you lose some; let’s just see if NS wants to buff Link’s incarnation.

    By the way, the Grand Canyon is very enclosed space- DB is entirely able to spread magical firepower to fill whatever area they’re in.

  29. Klondike Bar April 3, 2015 at 12:49 pm -      #29

    The only way would be to limit what the DB has on him and to specifically say what powers he has. Otherwise really I have no idea what you can do.

  30. Ragnorke April 3, 2015 at 12:51 pm -      #30

    There’s a lot you can do with Dragonborn i think.

    Give him certain equipment forexample, ban the rest.

    Limit (or remove) his use of spells.
    OR Limit (or remove) his use of shouts.

    ^ specifically the Alteration ones imo.

    I think that’s as fair as it can get… But then… Link just drops moons…

    Edit: Yea pretty much what Klondike said.

  31. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 12:52 pm -      #31

    “Different version of Link would make it debatable at least.”

    This version of link has the best combat feats.

    And i don’t think any Link has resistance to mind control…. Unless you take Agahnim not mind controlling Link in AlttP as some kind of resistance feat, but it’s more likely PIS

  32. Klondike Bar April 3, 2015 at 12:54 pm -      #32

    DB for the stompile award?
    +1
    /saarcasm

  33. Friendlysociopath April 3, 2015 at 1:02 pm -      #33

    DB for the stompile award?

    Have we introduced you to Master Chief vs Superman?

    This version of link has the best combat feats.

    But the least hax, the thing that Link thrives on as a character. At least that’s how it seems to me.

    Could just call composite Link and have the best of both worlds but… I always thought Composite Link was a bit of a cop-out.

  34. Klondike Bar April 3, 2015 at 1:05 pm -      #34

    (Have we introduced you to Master Chief vs Superman)

    ………………………………….huh…………………….
    Goodness gracious! why?! That much stompage is not good for anyone!

  35. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 1:06 pm -      #35

    Yeah, I like Links dirty fighting style, I think it makes it interesting, that the ‘one of a kind’, foretold hero of legends will sneak up behind you steal your favourite item then punch you in the dick with it.

    Has a kind of ruthless efficiency to it, he literally (in most cases) has no time for your shit.

  36. Nsl98 April 3, 2015 at 1:40 pm -      #36

    I, Nsl98, open the vast netherreaches of FP portals, into Negative Zero’s lost mind, and summon the dreaded foe…..👹

    Composite Link is in play, gentlemen.

  37. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 1:47 pm -      #37

    ………….. Composite Link Still doesn’t have any resistance to mind control. How ever he doe has ‘Spell’, which is a massive area of effect Polymorph spell. Is the dragon born immune/resistant to ploymorph?

    I am assumeing that you are including Hyrule warriors Link in that composite?

    If you give Composite Link like, 5 minuets preptime then i think he can take it. Though that is roughly the amount of time i played Skyrim before i decided i disliked it and never played it again. So my knowledge about the dragon born is.. Lacking, to say the least

  38. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 1:54 pm -      #38

    Though as far as I am concerned the ‘cane of Pacci solos.

  39. Klondike Bar April 3, 2015 at 1:59 pm -      #39

    (I, Nsl98, open the vast netherreaches of FP portals, into Negative Zero’s lost mind, and summon the dreaded foe…..👹)

    He was one of the few to be banhammered right?
    If so que the screaming that should happen.

    (Is the dragon born immune/resistant to ploymorph?)

    If that transforms him into a different creature than he is actualy show haveing zero resistance.

  40. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 2:01 pm -      #40

    “If that transforms him into a different creature than he is actualy show haveing negative-zero resistance.”

    …….Forgive me, as many here will attest i am rather dense, but Wut?

  41. Klondike Bar April 3, 2015 at 2:06 pm -      #41

    Oh no. That is just me. I can think of the stupidest puns ever. I mean that in the game the dragonborn can not resist morphing into a different creature. I just added negative-zeros name for the pun.
    /sad-ashamed-face.

  42. Nsl98 April 3, 2015 at 2:06 pm -      #42

    @Ramkin
    He has zero showing of polymorph Rez.

  43. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 2:08 pm -      #43

    So… Link stomps Via polymorph?

  44. Limbo Lowk April 3, 2015 at 2:08 pm -      #44

    So, I found a video of how good time slow is.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=1emnxCSWYFA
    You’re as about as fast as an arrow.

  45. Klondike Bar April 3, 2015 at 2:09 pm -      #45

    He is actually morphed into a cow, horse, and cow in the college of winterhold and his following dialog shows how he was unable to resist it.

  46. Ragnorke April 3, 2015 at 2:10 pm -      #46

    Negative Zero was… a Zelda/Nintendo Debater.
    Lets just say he refused to let LoZ vs TES die.
    I think it lasted over 2,000 posts?
    He was quite literally the only person consistently defending LoZ (OriginalA helped out here & there when Facts were needed though), and all his arguments were either already countered, or filled with Game-Mechanics.

    He eventually got banned for harassing another BankGamblingr.
    Which was actually kinda sad considering the night before the ban hammer went down Xornell, CH1, NZ, & i were having a pretty enjoyable chat.

    I’m still not sure if he was a Troll or not.
    Go ahead and read the debate to see what i mean.

  47. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 2:12 pm -      #47

    Really? Well, Link with the Pegasus boots is faster than an arrow. Plus Pegaus seeds and the bunny hood he should be much much faster. He can also fight with Ganondorf whom is an arrow timer.
    – – –
    “He is actually morphed into a cow, horse, and cow in the college of winterhold and his following dialog shows how he was unable to resist it.”

    So he is boned then.
    – – –
    Maybe make the match a best of 3, but with composite link for each time line, each starting at the skyward sword link and then gaining feats up the timeline and for their respective splits?
    – – –
    Then again decline time line Link has Spell

    And adult timeline Link has time stops
    so….

  48. Klondike Bar April 3, 2015 at 2:19 pm -      #48

    yea I read the thread were he was banned and to me it seemed somewhat harsh. I usually did not read the Loz or TES threads but more recently I have been. I am not really sure if he was really a troll or not either. The only two people that I have really branded that were FisherKing and this guy who kept wanking goku.

  49. Nsl98 April 3, 2015 at 2:23 pm -      #49

    @Rag
    On the subject of NZ, just go to Link vs Samurai Jack, or Sora, or really any Link thread around 2010-11 to see how he was when it came to Link.
    ——
    Is Link fast enough to use his polymorph before DB shouts him to death?
    ——
    We can go with the 3 separate round thing , one for each timeline.

  50. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 2:23 pm -      #50

    ” and this guy who kept wanking goku”

    If that beef cake came your way are you saying you wouldn’t wank him?


    – – –
    “Is Link fast enough to use his polymorph before DB shouts him to death?”

    As far as i can tell, he says a word and instant polymorph of entire area, At the very least that is mutually assured destruction.

  51. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 2:28 pm -      #51

    “We can go with the 3 separate round thing , one for each timeline.”

    Again though, Link stomps at least one via instant activate time stops.

    They kind of tie each other out in another once,

    All we would really have to debate is Dragon born vs Child timeline link, which i think he would stomp via match start shout. (Dragonborn not link)

    which makes this a tie. one each and then a draw.

  52. Klondike Bar April 3, 2015 at 2:30 pm -      #52

    I know that Goku is strong and such but he started comparing him to galactus and stuff. I actualy think Goku is a powerful foe same with a navy seal. However one is so much stronger than the other.

    (As far as i can tell, he says a >word –
    My GOD! Link is Dragonborn!

  53. Ragnorke April 3, 2015 at 2:35 pm -      #53

    Become Ethreal:
    DB becomes ehtreal (obviously), his stamina becomes unlimited, and he can charge up spells.
    Also, Cloak spells (which cover him in an elemental aura) continue damaging nearby enemies.
    He can also regenerate life in this state.
    He can also use Conjuration spells (summons) while in this state.

    Storm Call:
    Lightning starts striking people around the DB.
    Works as long as he’s outdoors.

    Bend Will:
    It bends a motherfuckers will.

    Call of Valor:
    Allows DB to summon a spirit of an ancient hero.
    The call is said to reach through Space & Time.
    So it should be usable in this match.
    And yea, they can just be summoned again when killed.

    Cyclone:
    Creates a Cyclone.
    It can throw a retard up to a hundred feet up in the air.

    Disarm:
    Throws a dudes weapon away from them.

    Drain Vitality:
    Steals Health, Stamina, & Magicka from a poor sucker.

    Ice Form:
    Turns a guy into ice. Pretty straight forward.
    Works on everything aside from Mammoths & Dragons, likely caus of their fucking enormous size.
    It freezes human sized peeps for 20-30 seconds.

    Soul Tear:
    Rips a dudes soul out.
    It doesn’t kill you instantly though… For some reason…
    But if it lands a killing blow, the dudes spirit follows you around as your bitch.

    Slow Time:
    Already covered.

    Whirldwind Sprint:
    DB dashes forward really fast.
    I think it’s like 5-10 meters in a second.

    Elemental Fury:
    Makes DB ignore the weight of his weapon.
    He can be holding the heaviest fucking warhammer on the planet, and still strike at the same speed his fists would regularly be moving at.

    There’s another shout similar to Elemental Fury which makes your allies attack faster.
    Which could be used with his “Call of Valor” Spirit Bitch.

    ^ All of those can be done with 1 word. Usually single Syllable.
    And those are just his Dragon Shouts. He can use any of these while simultaneously casting spells or whacking you in the face with a weapon.

  54. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 2:37 pm -      #54

    Assuming that any of these matches last more than a second?

  55. Ragnorke April 3, 2015 at 2:38 pm -      #55

    Oh, and Dragonborn has this Over Powered thing he can use once a day:

    elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Aspect

  56. Commander Cross April 3, 2015 at 2:40 pm -      #56

    @Ragnorke at #46

    I.D.G.A.S(I DON’T GIVE A SHIT!) For What Fallen Angels may say differently on this, he’s THE ONLY NON-TROLL to get hit with a Banhammer, in the same kind of way Jesus Christ got Crucified for Our Sins. 👿
    (Or the Sins of Our Ancestors but the Main Gist applies.)

    He should never have been banned in the first place, anyone who wants to say different may be my guest, pay Michigan a visit and go look for Mystical of RagnarokDebaters’ Ex, I’m sure he’d love to have Tea and Crumpets with you all as far as Ex-Spouses are concerned. 😀

    I blame the Crisis that went behind-my-back from last year for that, more than you’d know, because now I have to bear The Wrath of God Almighty Hiimself Looming over me.

    The Harassment Claim is a Lie at this point, just like how Half of the C.I.A would have framed Martin Luther King Junior as some kind of War-monger since Half of their Membership back at his day were so bloody corrupt!

    The Lord God Himself is still angry at me, His Son in Lord Jesus Christ might forgive me, but I doubt The Lord Senior Himself will do that at the moment, if at all.

    If anyone else on-site wants to die for our sins next up, feel free to be our guests and get in-line, I’ll wind up watching it befall you eventually. :'(
    —-

    @LadyRamkin at #47

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but Symbolically speaking isn’t Ganondorf The Closest thing The Legend of Zelda has(thus far) to an Anti-Christ Variant by chance, due to the Dark Secrets with how he was Born-from-Cosmic-Black-Magic due to a Curse at the end of Skyward Sword by chance?

    I can’t recall for the life of me if The Dragonborn had anything close to a flat-out Anti-Christ variant he had to fight against, I can fathom Dark Messiahs in general, but saying every Dark Messiah is an Anti-Christ Variant(or the closest thing to one) in the making is some kind of fallacy in itself to be sure.

    ——

    @Klondite Bar at #48

    God and Christ YES!!!
    FINALLY SOMEONE GETS THE MEMO around those parts. T_T
    I’d have offered to give you a hug but you might hurt me if I do so now.

    Anyway, this fight will likely end with ‘Everyone Dies, The End’ written all over it unless we have them go ahead and kill some Thalmor in the Crossfire.

  57. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 2:40 pm -      #57

    Assuming that any of these matches last more than a second

    “Correct me if I’m wrong, but Symbolically speaking isn’t Ganondorf The Closest thing The Legend of Zelda has(thus far) to an Anti-Christ Variant by chance,”
    – – –
    uh… Ganondorf is the reincarnation of the hatred of a demon… if.. that is what you mean.

    Forgive my bluntness, but i don’t really see how that’s relevant?

  58. Mea quidem sententia April 3, 2015 at 2:43 pm -      #58

    Man, I want to play Skyrim again! Anyway, being about as fast as an arrow means that if we agree with the average speed of an arrow is 200 mi/h, then Dragonborn will appear as though he’s traveling about 200 mi/h.

  59. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 2:46 pm -      #59

    “Man, I want to play Skyrim again! Anyway, being about as fast as an arrow means that if we agree with the average speed of an arrow is 200mi/h”

    Well, Ganondorf is an arrow timer, in…. one of the timeliness… and is the same guy in all 3. And Link can sword fight him one on one, So that really shouldn’t be an issue.

    Nobody has really addressed the issues bought up in post #51

  60. Friendlysociopath April 3, 2015 at 2:55 pm -      #60

    Again though, Link stomps at least one via instant activate time stops.

    Alright, LoZ ignorance speaking- which Link is that? The one who uses magic spells? Because those aren’t *instant*. There is a delay- only a second or so mind you, but not instant.
    Instant = no delay between action and effect; at least, that’s the way I see it.

    If it’s the one who has to be given those orbs by another sentient character to use- not sure he has those even in composite form.

  61. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 2:57 pm -      #61

    “If it’s the one who has to be given those orbs by another sentient character to use- not sure he has those even in composite form.”

    Yep, that one, I think you start the battle with one orb, but I haven’t fought that boss in years.

  62. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 3:04 pm -      #62

    Okay, so, he gets the orbs from the fairy of courage. BUT the fairies of courage, power and wisdom, are equable “items” that provide buffs in game. So i have no idea whether they are present or not.

  63. Ciridae Hunter April 3, 2015 at 3:13 pm -      #63

    DB wins by paralysis and Wabbajack (try imagining Link as a Mudcrab)

    Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack!!!

    …Just kidding.

  64. Alpha or Omega April 3, 2015 at 3:17 pm -      #64

    @Friendly
    “If it’s the one who has to be given those orbs by another sentient character to use- not sure he has those even in composite form.”
    /
    The Link in question is WindWaker/PhantomHourglass Link. One of the Links that aren’t mary sues.
    The orbs can be stored in his sword, He can keep it. He just doesn’t have someone to recharge it.

  65. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 3:18 pm -      #65

    Wouldn’t he start with at least one? via the optimal efficiency rule?

  66. Mea quidem sententia April 3, 2015 at 3:43 pm -      #66

    @LadyRamkin Post #59
    The point is DB will look like he’s running 200 mi/h, which Ganondorf has never demonstrated. Also, if we assume Ganondorf dodged an arrow from 10 meters away at 89 m/s (200 mi/h), then he’s only demonstrating a reaction time of 111 milliseconds at that distance.

    Should Link get closer, that reaction time is not going to behave the same. Ganondorf will have less time to react. Not only will DB be faster than an arrow, but Link’s perception of DB’s attacks will appear faster as well.

  67. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 4:02 pm -      #67

    Well, Ganon can dodge the arrow at point blank range….

    And link in can easily out strip an arrow. without messing with time.

  68. Mea quidem sententia April 3, 2015 at 4:16 pm -      #68

    @LadyRamkin Post #67
    Prove it.

  69. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 4:22 pm -      #69

    “Prove it.”

    okay….

    Does anybody know where i can find a video walkthrough of Four swords? And a videp walkthrough by somebody who has never played Twilight princess / windwaker?

    Otherwise this is going to take me a while.

    I suppose a lets play would be beteer…

  70. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 4:26 pm -      #70



    That is as close as i can get for the ganon bit in such a short amount of time, now looking for the arrow thing

    Though finding it is gonna be hard… i am gonna have to find a lets playof four swords and hope that they captured the pegasus boots out running the arrow…..

  71. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 5:03 pm -      #71

    I have a great idea, can sombody post me their camera so i can just film myself doing it and upload it to the internet?

  72. Mea quidem sententia April 3, 2015 at 5:30 pm -      #72

    Ah, game play that doesn’t involve the player firing an arrow, but rather two NPCs. That’ll do. Ganondorf is 7’6″ according to Hyrule Historia, so that’s the height I’ll use. His height in the video is 134 pixels tall.

    At 24:51 we can see the tip of the light arrow from Ganondorf. The distance is 341 px., which would be equal to 229.03 inches, or pretty much 20 feet.

    200 mi/h is 293.33 ft/s. The amount of time it would take for Ganondorf to get out of the way would be 68.18 milliseconds. Ganondorf jumps out of the way as the arrow is half way there, so I’d suspect that an additional amount of time should be added. This would mean Ganondorf’s reaction time is 102.27 milliseconds.

  73. Alpha or Omega April 3, 2015 at 5:33 pm -      #73

    “Wouldn’t he start with at least one? via the optimal efficiency rule?”
    /
    He would have all three of the orbs, not one.

  74. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 5:37 pm -      #74

    “He would have all three of the orbs, not one.”

    Can’t he carry 9?
    – – –
    @Mea quidem sententia
    He can do it when she is much closer too…

    Still having trouble finding a damn video though.

  75. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 5:51 pm -      #75

    Still fairly new to this whole… fourum…. chat….. thing….

    But when you leave, are you supposed to tell people? Is that like standard etiquette, or do you just be like, “im off for now” or what? Just seems weird to me that you would just leave from a conversation you are having without saying anything.

  76. Ciridae Hunter April 3, 2015 at 6:46 pm -      #76

    If you know about something that will prevent chatting (work, sleep, etc.) then it is courteous to let someone know so they don’t feel insulted or default to “he/she didn’t respond so I win” logic.

    On the flip side, maybe a device like a phone or laptop dies or the power goes out due to a storm or some shit so they can’t help not responding, so always think about that when waiting for a response, keeping comments curt to avoid unintended offense.

  77. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 7:19 pm -      #77

    So, the conversation here has dipped a bit and it’s quite late here and i am considering going to bed. Im just not sure if i should just say when i leave in case somebody want’s to direct somthing at me, or if i should just go. Just leaving feels really weird to me.

  78. Neon Lord April 3, 2015 at 7:27 pm -      #78

    “In fact, he can simultaneously cast a spell AND use a shout.”

    I’ve played enough Skyrim to know you can’t shout and cast at the same time. You can do it one straight after the other though so there isn’t really much difference.

  79. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 7:30 pm -      #79

    “I’ve played enough Skyrim to know you can’t shout and cast at the same time.”

    Wouldn’t that be game mechanic? Or is there a reason he can’t shout while using spells?

  80. Ciridae Hunter April 3, 2015 at 7:50 pm -      #80

    Just say it’s late and you need to sleep and it should be fine.

    With regards to multitasking attacks there are some problems. For instance, say the Dragonborn is casting Fireball but is also swinging away with a Dragonbone Sword-now, suppose the target of his/her aggression is Rashim Najara, a Khajiti Conjurer who is laying down a series of atronach and lightning bolts while swiftly evading attacks like the cat bastard he is; the Dragonborn fires the spell, but no sooner is the attack loosed when the sword hits the spell, setting it off before it can get near Rashim. Now he Dragonborn is on fire and Rashim is mocking the hero’s stupidity.

    Some multitasking is fine, like blocking with a shield and swinging an axe, but spells and shouts require focus (especially shouts, since a wrong syllable could ruin a shout) that would be absent in a heated duel with a speed-demon like Link

  81. LadyRamkin April 3, 2015 at 8:06 pm -      #81

    It’s late and i need sleep, Night all.

  82. Ragnorke April 3, 2015 at 10:16 pm -      #82

    “I’ve played enough Skyrim to know you can’t shout and cast at the same time. ”

    Game mechanic.
    Spell casting, which takes nothing more than hand gestures, uses Magicka.
    Thu’um, which takes nothing more than speaking, uses your “Dragon Soul”.
    Totally unrelated, and totally don’t interfere with each other.

    There’s also a “Cool Down” between the Dragonborns shouts.
    Although canonically using Thu’um is literally nothing more than speaking in Dragon tongue, and the dragons don’t follow that Cooldown.
    So that’s also a game-mechanic.

    “Some multitasking is fine,”

    I’m not saying it’s always a fantastic idea. Only that it’s an option.
    Some Shouts & Spells would syngergise fantastically together.

    “that would be absent in a heated duel with a speed-demon like Link”

    Never knew Link was too fast…

  83. Neon Lord April 3, 2015 at 10:34 pm -      #83

    “Game mechanic.
    Spell casting, which takes nothing more than hand gestures, uses Magicka.
    Thu’um, which takes nothing more than speaking, uses your “Dragon Soul”.
    Totally unrelated, and totally don’t interfere with each other.”

    Except both probably need a lot of concentration. Otherwise they wouldn’t have bothered with that mechanic.

  84. Ragnorke April 3, 2015 at 10:46 pm -      #84

    “Except both probably need a lot of concentration. Otherwise they wouldn’t have bothered with that mechanic.”

    Elderscrolls is notorious for mechanics which make no logical sense though… i don’t see why this is any different.

    I honestly have no memory of Thu’m requiring any concentration whatsoever.

    They greybeards spend months-years practicing words, because they aren’t dragons.
    They literally just tell you the word once, you say it, and boom.. Thu’um.
    After that, you go around the world, finding more words, and the second you say them… BAM More Thu’um.

    If anything, it’s a major plot point that Dragon Shouts come as naturally to the DB as speaking is to Dragons.

    It can be argued that spells need concentration,
    But that doesn’t stop DB from smashing & cutting everyone around with his weapon while charging up his spells.

  85. Friendlysociopath April 3, 2015 at 11:11 pm -      #85

    Spell casting, which takes nothing more than hand gestures, uses Magicka.
    It can be argued that spells need concentration,

    In any other universe I would disagree, but ES really does show magic is ludicrously easy to pick up and even use by the locals.

    That was one thing I liked about Morrowind- picking a fight with someone was a gamble of “Are they going to murder me with magic if I do so?”

    Except both probably need a lot of concentration. Otherwise they wouldn’t have bothered with that mechanic.

    While I’m tempted to agree, ES lore states learning magic is apparently quite simple and easy. Combine that with spells actually never requiring words and I see no real reason you cannot use both at once.

    Never knew Link was too fast…

    I think we’re dealing with the Pegasai Boots outrunning arrows again.

  86. Aelfinn April 4, 2015 at 12:03 am -      #86

    Composite Link is, IIRC, about 900 mph. He’s got Pegasus boots, the Bunny Hood, and the Pegasus Seed.
    =
    “That was one thing I liked about Morrowind- picking a fight with someone was a gamble of “Are they going to murder me with magic if I do so?””

    I miss levitation…and being able to kill anyone…and all the other crazy shit you could do.

  87. Batz April 4, 2015 at 12:06 am -      #87

    Not sure if it’s been posted yet, but Warriors Link can actually USE the Triforce of Courage in combat.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaCzlwKrS9Q
    (34:26)
    He creates a glyph of the Triforce that calls down bolts of holy energy in a space roughly equal to the size of a Keep. The glyph deactivates if he captures the keep it’s in, or if he is knocked unconscious, indicating that he might not need to actively focus on it.

  88. LadyRamkin April 10, 2015 at 6:35 pm -      #88

    So, IF Hyrule warriors was canon (which it isn’t) It would have to take place between ocarina of time and wind waker.

    This conclusion is drawn solely from the scene where Impa travels to the era of the hero of time. She directly mentions the hero of time. Which she would not be able to do if she were in the child timeline since nobody knows he existed.

    Impa also mentions that Hyrule seems very similar to her Hyrule. Which means that it cannot happen after windwaker since Hyrule is flooded and new Hyrule is nothing like old Hyrule.

    The history of the Decline timeline is fairly well documented. So it could take place after The adventure of link. Or between Links awakening and The Legend of Zelda (game 1). But Hero of time link, is referred to as the Legendary hero, and in that time line he was defeated so it is unlikely.

    This means that as part of that games plot, Cia opened portals through Space, her timeline, and other timelines.

    This also means that another Link, After separating Ganondorfs soul in to four pieces, also managed to do this.

    During the game Ganondorf, without any triforce pieces, Resurrects Girahim and Zant (Who is from a different timeline entirely) and summons them to him.

    I think it is resurrection because after he summons them he says “Follow my every command, or else perish again.” Which indicates, to me, that they were dead before he summoned them.

    And he doesn’t even bat an eye lid while doing it.

    I don’t know if any of this is really important, but i just got my copy of Hyrule warriors and am super excited.

  89. Alpha or Omega April 10, 2015 at 7:51 pm -      #89

    Actually, Hyrule Warriors take place in a different universe that somehow connects to the main timeline. As directly said by Aonuma, 1 of the 2 word of gods.
    /
    Aonuma: “Maybe if you force it in somewhere, but that’s not something we want to do. The universe of Hyrule Warriors really is sort of a different universe and it is connected to the timeline of the Zelda series, but it is connected to several different games throughout the series. If you try and force this into it here [Aonuma places his hands in the air indicating different levels of the timeline], then…that information might not be complete. We really don’t want to put it in the timeline because it has links to the different parts of the timeline.”
    /
    So it’s alternate canon.

  90. GabrielusPrime May 4, 2015 at 10:40 pm -      #90

    Like the original Gundam series, and Gundam Wing, Gundam 00, and so on?

  91. Alpha or Omega May 5, 2015 at 3:50 pm -      #91

    Yeah, if we’re talking about the way Western countries see Gundam as.

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