Captain America Vs Captain Commando

Captain America Vs Captain Commando

Suggested by Alpha or Omega

Captain America (Marvel) goes up against Captain Commando (Capcom)

Captain America, with the serum, faces Captain Commando.

Who will win?

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77 Comments on "Captain America Vs Captain Commando"

  1. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 9, 2015 at 4:12 am -      #1

    Never heard of Cpt C, so I’m going with CA out of pure ignorance. Feel free to prove me wrong FPers.

  2. Envoy April 9, 2015 at 10:38 am -      #2

    CAPTAIN FIYA!

  3. Ragnorke April 9, 2015 at 12:03 pm -      #3

    Cap takes this.

    Hehe.

  4. Commander Cross April 9, 2015 at 12:32 pm -      #4

    @Ragnorke at #03

    I too second how initial bets are with the Good Captain on this one.

    Also, two of Percy’s enemies have
    Debuted in this fight, Mind having a look sometime at it and read from the posts so far?

    We now return to our Scheduled Captain beating up Captain like the Boss Captain he is!

  5. Nobunaga Jin April 9, 2015 at 2:16 pm -      #5

    I’m not really sure if the former Capcom mascot takes this. I mean, his fire and electricity would just bounce off the shield. I have no idea of how strong his “Captain protector” is, other than it can handle a LOT of heat.

    I read that his gauntlets multiply his strength 48 times, but I don’t know if that would be as strong as Captain America. The only thing that I can think of that might stun Cap America would be the captain collider, but I don’t know if that would be enough.

  6. Alpha or Omega April 9, 2015 at 3:51 pm -      #6

    Reaction times.
    Dodges bullets
    www.udonentertainment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/CaptainCommandoVol1-Preview-9.jpg
    www.udonentertainment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/CaptainCommandoVol1-Preview-10.jpg
    /
    www.udonentertainment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/CaptainCommando_Vol2_interiors-31.jpg
    www.udonentertainment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/CaptainCommando_Vol2_interiors-32.jpg
    Saved a woman from a bullet

  7. Alpha or Omega April 9, 2015 at 4:01 pm -      #7

    Equipment
    flyers.arcade-museum.com/flyers_video/capcom/10002906.jpg
    /
    Captain Protector
    “Made of super-tough captain ceramic, stands up to trillions of degree heat”.
    Captain Goggles
    “The wearer can identify a criminal’s face at a distance of 2 km, by comparing with database”
    Captain Gauntlet
    “It can smash a thick iron plate. Multiplies Captain’s power 48 times.”
    Captain Boots
    “They make it possible to take a 100 meter fall with no damage”
    /
    His equipment includes the “energy glove” which acts as a flamethrower and adds flame/electric attacks.
    His “energy glove” can conduct electricity through the ground, and it has enough to kill people on contact.

  8. Tarbel April 10, 2015 at 5:45 pm -      #8

    Does Captain Commando dodge a bullet fired from behind?

    About the gauntlets, I’m not sure what they mean by multiplying Captain’s power. They seem to be only extending up to his fore arms, so I don’t think it would increase the amount he could bench press or something by that much. In that case, it might just mean striking strength, but I have no idea, and a feat would be better in clarifying his ability.


    Overall, if Captain Commando is a peak human that’s enhanced by equipment, then he’s most likely vulnerable to attacks by Captain America and his shield. I’d give this to Captain America.

  9. Alpha or Omega April 10, 2015 at 7:44 pm -      #9

    @Tarbel
    “Does Captain Commando dodge a bullet fired from behind?”
    /
    No, but can Captain America reach a person before a bullet does?
    Cap. Com. out-“leaped” the bullet in the second panel of the 4th scan after it was fired to save the woman. He was about one or two meters from the mutant and between the woman and the mutant.
    However, the woman was about a few meters from the fight.
    Of course, I’m eye-balling the distance, but Captain Commando was within melee range. So the one or two meters is a close estimate for the range between him and the mutant at least
    /
    “They seem to be only extending up to his fore arms, so I don’t think it would increase the amount he could bench press or something by that much. In that case, it might just mean striking strength, but I have no idea, and a feat would be better in clarifying his ability.”
    /
    Either way, striking or lifting, the gauntlet makes him strong if it’s multiplied by 48.
    /
    “Overall, if Captain Commando is a peak human that’s enhanced by equipment, then he’s most likely vulnerable to attacks by Captain America and his shield. I’d give this to Captain America.”
    /
    I don’t think it will be that easy.
    Yes, Captain America has a mighty shield that disperses all forms of energy, but Captain Commando has a glove that can conduct enough electricity to the ground to kill people.
    Granted, Captain America is “Marvel peakhuman”(which might as well be superhuman sometimes), but he will still be stunned by electricity that can kill people.

  10. Jake_Uzumaki April 10, 2015 at 8:04 pm -      #10

    “No, but can Captain America reach a person before a bullet does?”

    actually, yes. Red Skull firing 3 bullets at a man across the room. Cap moves from next to Red Skull to directly in front of the man after the bullets leave the chamber.
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/4037497-manuver.jpg

    Throwing his shield fast enough to intercept bullets
    i.imgur.com/zngloNp.jpg

    throwing his shield fast and hard enough to catch up to an ICBM, destroy the restraint around Falcons arm at the end of the missile,and pass the missile
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101999/3031676-captainamerica%28v3%29%2327p08.jpg?hc_location=ufi
    img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130427161719/deadliestfiction/images/6/60/Captain_America_throws_hsi_shield.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101999/3031678-captainamerica%28v3%29%2327p10.jpg?hc_location=ufi

    throwing the shield hard enough to go through a truck the long way
    2.bp.blogspot.com/-L9fGeMRKeSY/UaApjsZsCqI/AAAAAAAAA94/QzLywMHpAak/s1600/captain-america-shield-throw-truck.jpg?hc_location=ufi

    Throwing a large chunk of concrete and rebar a good distance at a machine gun nest on the roof of a two story building.
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116123/3763733-cap+throwing+concrete+30+feet.jpg?hc_location=ufi

  11. Jake_Uzumaki April 10, 2015 at 8:05 pm -      #11

    damn, comments in moderation. Anyway here’s the part with a reply to one of your questions Alpha

    ” “No, but can Captain America reach a person before a bullet does?”

    actually, yes. Red Skull firing 3 bullets at a man across the room. Cap moves from next to Red Skull to directly in front of the man after the bullets leave the chamber.
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/4037497-manuver.jpg “

  12. Jake_Uzumaki April 10, 2015 at 8:13 pm -      #12

    Nerve strike on a werewolf
    i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb410/raykongs/Capusesnervestrikesonwerewolf_zps8f39842e.jpg~original

    beating someone who “cataloged every fighting style in the world”
    i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb410/raykongs/CapHTH_zps3852c853.jpg~original

  13. Alpha or Omega April 10, 2015 at 8:31 pm -      #13

    “actually, yes. Red Skull firing 3 bullets at a man across the room. Cap moves from next to Red Skull to directly in front of the man after the bullets leave the chamber.”
    /
    That feat is more impressive than Captain Commando’s.
    /
    “Nerve strike on a werewolf”
    /
    Is that the only nerve wh strike he knows?
    Captain Commando can simply block it.

  14. Jake_Uzumaki April 10, 2015 at 8:46 pm -      #14

    Well guess we can chalk up a slight speed/reflex edge to Cap.
    Possibly strength whenever my post comes out of moderation.

    No, its not the only one, just the first scan I had on hand. I was debating for Cap on another site and had those right there.

  15. Jake_Uzumaki April 10, 2015 at 9:04 pm -      #15

    fighting a superhuman mutant super soldier made by Zola, looks like he literally kicks a hole in its stomach. And this is after gutting himself to remove the Zola virus from his body and stitching it back up with no real recovery time.
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11113/111131355/4078794-1337295827-40724.jpg

    afformentioned self gutting
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124784/3348916-captain+america+v7+005-019.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124784/3348917-captain+america+v7+005-020.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124784/3348918-captain+america+v7+005-021.jpg

  16. Alpha or Omega April 10, 2015 at 9:07 pm -      #16

    What does Captain America have in defense against the electric glove?
    /
    I’ll give Cap A the advantage in hand to hand, martial arts, and all that.
    Though, I’m not saying Captain Commando is unskilled though.

  17. Nsl98 April 10, 2015 at 9:19 pm -      #17

    The mighty shield should work against CC’s glove, no?

  18. Alpha or Omega April 10, 2015 at 9:22 pm -      #18

    www.udonentertainment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/CaptainCommandoVol1-Preview-6.jpg
    www.udonentertainment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/CaptainCommandoVol1-Preview-7.jpg
    Right after leaving an afterimage, speed blitz these scum.
    /
    After this.
    www.udonentertainment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/CaptainCommandoVol1-Preview-8.jpg
    Breaks a sword by simply blocking.

  19. Jake_Uzumaki April 10, 2015 at 9:23 pm -      #19

    looks like he’s resisting some sort of taser device?
    i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww213/benoit_le/comics_vo/marvel/captain_america31.jpg~original

    splitting a mutants head with the shield
    2.bp.blogspot.com/-PK5vwXQyEnk/UsmQYXDOjJI/AAAAAAABfLA/EIY0vnmGDyA/s1600/-005+copy.jpg
    3.bp.blogspot.com/-mjIcpyFaaBk/UsmQZEwKhcI/AAAAAAABfLM/HFhP4fmkzcE/s1600/-006+copy.jpg

    taking down a dragon with a lesser shield
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111121459/3360220-avprime3legioncps015.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111121459/3360230-avprime3legioncps016.jpg

  20. Alpha or Omega April 10, 2015 at 9:31 pm -      #20

    “The mighty shield should work against CC’s glove, no?”
    /
    The fire burst which is practically a flamethrower?
    Yes.
    The electricity burst which can be conducted through the ground?
    Only if he stands on his shield, which would be pretty funny to see.
    /
    Captain Commando:”You’re finished! Captain Corridor!”
    *Insert static noise*
    Cap.Com.: “The battle is done, I am the number one Capt-”
    *Sees Rogers on the shield with troll face*
    Cap. Com. “Godd@mit Rogers”
    /
    www.udonentertainment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/CaptainCommando_Vol2_interiors-29.jpg
    www.udonentertainment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/CaptainCommando_Vol2_interiors-30.jpg
    More bullet dodging and knocks the mutant back.
    /
    Energy glove
    www.udonentertainment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/CaptainCommando_Vol2_interiors-35.jpg
    www.udonentertainment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/CaptainCommando_Vol2_interiors-36.jpg
    Uses electricity to flash blind the reporter and kill the mutant.

  21. Jake_Uzumaki April 10, 2015 at 9:32 pm -      #21

    taking down a helicopter
    1.bp.blogspot.com/-UROWYcJCqKM/UaAk0Ue0IUI/AAAAAAAAA9o/e5n-mwpnRvg/s1600/captain-america-shield-strike.jpg

    cracking concrete by smacking someone into it
    img506.imageshack.us/img506/9247/caf0603li3.jpg

    lifting a electric pole
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/103165/2265784-captain_america_616_pg_49.jpg

    throws the shield accurately enough, while dodging a bullet, to nail Bucky in the back just hard enough to knock him down.
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/103165/2265633-ca14016zs1.jpg

    shatters a concrete pillar by punching someone into it
    i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz22/PinkSith/Kiehls/CAKielhs_zpsa5d172db.jpg

  22. Alpha or Omega April 10, 2015 at 9:38 pm -      #22

    “looks like he’s resisting some sort of taser device?”
    /
    Not exactly the same thing as Commando’s electricity burst from his energy gloves.
    Taser’s are non-lethal while Commando’s can kill people and burn them.
    /
    Edit:I think Captain America is the physically superior one here.

  23. Jake_Uzumaki April 10, 2015 at 9:40 pm -      #23

    manually closing a missile silo door, sliding down and blocking the thruster
    www.universomarvel.com.aq/capitanamerica/capitan_america-misil-1.jpg
    www.universomarvel.com.aq/capitanamerica/capitan_america-misil-2.jpg
    www.universomarvel.com.aq/capitanamerica/capitan_america-misil-3.jpg
    www.universomarvel.com.aq/capitanamerica/capitan_america-misil-4.jpg
    www.universomarvel.com.aq/capitanamerica/capitan_america-misil-5.jpg

  24. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 10, 2015 at 9:43 pm -      #24

    Sorry for the distraction, but anyone see MCU’s DD?

  25. Jake_Uzumaki April 10, 2015 at 9:45 pm -      #25

    leaping out of an airplane. without a parachute
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/1/16715/3697913-6294060603-36314.jpg

    see’s a surface to air missile launched at night in a storm, repeats the leaping from the plane feat, while throwing the shield accurately enough to hit two HYDRA agents, and crushes the car with his landing.
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/1/16715/3697907-1199316887-20234.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/16715/3697908-0616010965-20234.jpg

  26. Jake_Uzumaki April 10, 2015 at 9:46 pm -      #26

    “I think Captain America is the physically superior one here.”

    and you haven’t seen the stuff that’s in moderation yet lol.

  27. Alpha or Omega April 10, 2015 at 10:12 pm -      #27

    @CH1
    “Sorry for the distraction, but anyone see MCU’s DD?”
    /
    Yes. Love the kevlar look of his new suit. Makes him look like he took an inspiration from Captain America and Ant Man. Also it looks better than the Ben Affleck Daredevil and the other costume shown in the new trailers.
    Are the black eyes part of his costume or some CGI on him?
    And, where did he get the costume?
    /
    @Jake
    Captain America would win in a melee, but I think Captain Commando’s “Captain Corridor” would be a possible game changer.
    Edit: And your moderated comments are out.

  28. Jake_Uzumaki April 10, 2015 at 10:16 pm -      #28

    just saw them come out, I’m pretty sure the ICBM thing is probably his craziest throwing feat in his history.

  29. Alpha or Omega April 10, 2015 at 10:33 pm -      #29

    Out of curiosity and semi-relevant to the debate, which is better?
    Ceramic or kevlar armor?

  30. Limbo Lowk April 10, 2015 at 10:43 pm -      #30

    “Only if he stands on his shield, which would be pretty funny to see.”

    The shield block energy attacks but seems to conduct electricity just fine. Iirc that what they used on Tony when he was in a coma.

  31. Friendlysociopath April 10, 2015 at 10:59 pm -      #31

    Ceramic or kevlar armor?

    Isn’t Ceramic armor the stuff they use on tanks?

  32. Alpha or Omega April 10, 2015 at 11:10 pm -      #32

    @Lowk
    That sucks for Captain America. It will be a shocker to him.
    /
    @FS
    “Isn’t Ceramic armor the stuff they use on tanks?”
    /
    I was under the impression that there’s more ceramic on tanks than armor for people.

  33. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 10, 2015 at 11:16 pm -      #33

    “Yes. Love the kevlar look of his new suit. Makes him look like he took an inspiration from Captain America and Ant Man. Also it looks better than the Ben Affleck Daredevil and the other costume shown in the new trailers.
    Are the black eyes part of his costume or some CGI on him?
    And, where did he get the costume?”

    So worth the watch I take it? IGN gave it a bunch of great reviews.

  34. Alpha or Omega April 10, 2015 at 11:19 pm -      #34

    I was referring to the trailer where we see Matt Murdock to Daredevil with make shift costume and then finally the iconic red Daredevil costume with a redesign.
    Haven’t seen it. Sorry, misunderstood your comment.

  35. Nsl98 April 10, 2015 at 11:27 pm -      #35

    Off Topic:
    Look who I found! First comment:
    www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/71599452?page=2
    ——
    And Daredevil is an amazing show. I almost like it more than Arrow, which is prolly its main competition for live action vigilante show.
    ——–

  36. Tarbel April 10, 2015 at 11:47 pm -      #36

    www.udonentertainment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/CaptainCommandoVol1-Preview-10.jpg
    I was referring to the top right of this scan. It goes bang from behind it looks like. But the enemy was in front of him so I guess it was just confusing sound effect placement.


    I think CC and CA are very close in combat ability, but CA, being only about peak human in durability, won’t be able to take hits as well as CA can. CA is also known to be a brilliant strategist in combat and can throw his shield at different angles to bounce unpredictably with perfect accuracy. I don’t know how tactical CC is in combat, but CA has at least a decade’s worth of experience which I feel, along with the durability issue, would get him the win.

  37. Jake_Uzumaki April 10, 2015 at 11:57 pm -      #37

    Anchor’s are generally quite heavy aren’t they?
    i.imgur.com/dBpHLc6.jpg

    so did some research since I saw this feat, it was originally from a cancelled series Astonishing Captain America which was later published as Legendary Captain America in 2013.
    Captain America vs Tiger Tank
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131355/4067849-7722269732-36618.jpg

  38. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 11, 2015 at 12:07 am -      #38

    “Haven’t seen it. Sorry, misunderstood your comment.”

    Damn… :(
    =
    “Off Topic:
    Look who I found! First comment:”

    O nos…
    =
    “Anchor’s are generally quite heavy aren’t they?”

    www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/anchorguide.htm
    =
    So, anyone see Vegeta’s SSG Form?

  39. Jake_Uzumaki April 11, 2015 at 12:08 am -      #39

    survives Gambit turning his armor into a bomb.
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/2532/2347825-avx_zone_007.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/45351/3330120-2465189-avx_zone_008.jpg

    humiliates USAgent, a 10 tonner, with pressure points.
    i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb410/raykongs/CappressurepointUSAgent1_zpsd873b266.jpg
    i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb410/raykongs/CappressurepointUSAgent2_zpsf22e0947.jpg

  40. Nsl98 April 11, 2015 at 12:08 am -      #40

    More speed:
    i.imgur.com/WxKgJWZ.jpg
    i.imgur.com/tg9j2Df.png
    —-
    Pretty accurate with his shield:

    i.imgur.com/8X2Hf8m.jpg

  41. Jake_Uzumaki April 11, 2015 at 12:13 am -      #41

    “So, anyone see Vegeta’s SSG Form?”

    yes

  42. Jake_Uzumaki April 11, 2015 at 12:15 am -      #42

    turning a lighter on and off with the shield
    i.imgur.com/KMzohnI.jpg

  43. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 11, 2015 at 12:33 am -      #43

    “yes”

    Scans? please? I know he’s supposed to have blue hair, but don’t know much beyond that.

  44. Limbo Lowk April 11, 2015 at 12:51 am -      #44

    ““So, anyone see Vegeta’s SSG Form?”

    yes”

    I saw a blue haired vegeta smiling and thought it was fake. Not cuz of the hair mind you but because vegeta doesn’t smile, he smirks.

  45. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 11, 2015 at 1:11 am -      #45

    “I saw a blue haired vegeta smiling and thought it was fake. Not cuz of the hair mind you but because vegeta doesn’t smile, he smirks.”

    Still want to see it, haven’t seen any confirmed pics, least not that I know of… And I haven’t seen anything that looks even remotely official.

  46. Jake_Uzumaki April 11, 2015 at 1:27 am -      #46

    Well there’s these official figures
    orig08.deviantart.net/d27d/f/2015/088/b/1/saiyan_beyond_god_forms___by_sonichedgehog2-d8nlokp.jpg

    I’ll see if I can find anything though.

  47. Jake_Uzumaki April 11, 2015 at 1:29 am -      #47

    oh here’s an official image of Goku’s “Saiyan Beyond god” form as its called
    i.imgur.com/cteIm0E.jpg

  48. Jake_Uzumaki April 11, 2015 at 1:38 am -      #48

    my bad its “Super Saiyan god Super Saiyan” as its the combination of SS1 and god ki

  49. Limbo Lowk April 11, 2015 at 1:39 am -      #49

    Black to yellow to red to blue. Can’t wait for the super sayian rainbow form in the next movie.

  50. Jake_Uzumaki April 11, 2015 at 1:43 am -      #50

    apparently the blue coloring comes from mastering the god ki.
    So the red haired form is unstable SSg, blue is mastered SSgSS

  51. Jake_Uzumaki April 11, 2015 at 1:45 am -      #51

    You know what, I want to suggest a match……..
    Super Saiyan god Super Saiyan Goku vs Super Saiyan 4 Goku

  52. Limbo Lowk April 11, 2015 at 1:57 am -      #52

    “Super Saiyan god Super Saiyan”

    Nope, I reject this. Nobody is going to call it that. I’ll stick with beyond.
    ===
    “Super Saiyan god Super Saiyan Goku”

    Seriously, look how ridiculous that looks written out. Even abbreviated its a mouthful… Actually I hope they do say it in the movie just for the possible tfs content as a result.

  53. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 11, 2015 at 2:03 am -      #53

    @Jake Doesn’t look as bad as I thought it would. Really doesn’t.
    =
    “Super Saiyan god Super Saiyan Goku vs Super Saiyan 4 Goku”

    I’d say SSGSS Goku stomps since he’s supposed to be(at least I remember hearing that)stronger than Vegito, who should be around the same strength as Gogeta and SS4 Gogeta>SS4 Goku…

    Gross… Too much powerscaling.

    SSGSS Goku vs Super Vegito and SS4 Gogeta?

    What’d be a good match up for a team of DB consisting of NBA Laker Frieza, Whis, Bills, SSGSS Goku & Vegeta, Super Vegito, SS4 Gogeta, and SS4 Goku and Vegeta and SS3 Goktenks or Mystic Gohan?

  54. Jake_Uzumaki April 11, 2015 at 2:09 am -      #54

    Superman 😛

  55. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 11, 2015 at 2:11 am -      #55

    @Jake I don’t want it to be stahmp 😛

  56. Alpha or Omega April 11, 2015 at 8:04 pm -      #56

    Yeah, I’ll give this to America.
    Commando’s only chance will be to use the Captain Corridor to blind the American, if not hit him, then follow up with several electrical attacks to C.A.
    However, America’s shield throw can be thrown at practically every spot where it will bounce back and hit Commando even if he dodges.
    Combine this with America being slightly faster, slightly better reaction, and physically stronger with known combat skills, Captain America wins this.
    /
    Now I’m planning a team up of these two.
    Capcom and Marvel.
    /
    Goddang saiyans hijacking this thread.

  57. Friendlysociopath April 11, 2015 at 8:13 pm -      #57

    What’d be a good match up for a team of DB consisting of NBA Laker Frieza, Whis, Bills, SSGSS Goku & Vegeta, Super Vegito, SS4 Gogeta, and SS4 Goku and Vegeta and SS3 Goktenks or Mystic Gohan?

    …All of them at once? I don’t think a fiction exists that would make that an even match one way or the other- wanna throw the main cast of Disgaea at them?

  58. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 11, 2015 at 9:23 pm -      #58

    “Goddang saiyans hijacking this thread.”

    Sorry…

    I am CH1C4N0444, Derailer of Threads, Allergic to Bullets, and Lifter of Facts.
    =
    “…All of them at once?”

    Preferably, I figured after those guize it just drops off dramatically… Actually, haven’t seen GT, but I think maybe Omega Shenron was up there too? Maybe better than Gotenks and Mystic Gohan?
    =
    “I don’t think a fiction exists that would make that an even match one way or the other- ”

    I’m assuming maybe a ragtag team of characters that get thrown together from multiple verses could? Not necessarily all from one verse. Or maybe a few real powerful/haxor characters.
    =
    “wanna throw the main cast of Disgaea at them?”

    Don’t the lowest tier of Disgaea characters blow stars up for fun and/or accident? And fly thousands or millions of times FTL?

  59. Friendlysociopath April 11, 2015 at 9:59 pm -      #59

    Don’t the lowest tier of Disgaea characters blow stars up for fun and/or accident? And fly thousands or millions of times FTL?

    My bad, forgot how hard Disgaea powerscales, only Fist-users are 50,000xFTL, everyone else is just… regular FTL.

    Spear knocks a guy to the moon, around it, and back in a few seconds
    Axe I think just jumps straight up through the moon then comes back down
    Bow and Gun both have moves where they jump into outer-space to fire at the planet

    I’m assuming maybe a ragtag team of characters that get thrown together from multiple verses could?

    That would probably be your better bet; might want to not use hax though- DBZ is pretty much the epitome of “I’m gonna punch it really hard” as a solution.
    Anyone played Xenoverse?
    Trunks: “Piccolo is being controlled by that demon! How do we help him?”
    Kai of Time: “Give him a smoking hot blow to the face.”

  60. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 11, 2015 at 10:14 pm -      #60

    “That would probably be your better bet;”

    Figured as such. I never thought any one verse would have anything on that level.
    =
    “Trunks: “Piccolo is being controlled by that demon! How do we help him?”
    Kai of Time: “Give him a smoking hot blow to the face.””

    Good.

  61. Jake_Uzumaki April 11, 2015 at 10:31 pm -      #61

    Hmmm, a DBZ buster team. Give me some time.

  62. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 11, 2015 at 10:38 pm -      #62

    @Jake Less buster, more fair match up, because throw Supes and Hyperion at them and you have a DB buster duo right there.

  63. Friendlysociopath April 11, 2015 at 10:45 pm -      #63

    Figured as such. I never thought any one verse would have anything on that level.

    Well, not without grossly surpassing it, no. Most of the time when you get to star-level you don’t really stop there- your cast also would be at least FTL at that level of destruction.

    To be clear- what level are those at? It seems like every DBZ match devolves into “Goku never actually planet-busted”.
    As far as I understand it:
    Bills can starbust
    Frieza can planet-bust
    and everyone else has claims and powerscaling that don’t necessarily work?

  64. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 11, 2015 at 11:02 pm -      #64

    “To be clear- what level are those at?”

    Moon-Star busting range.
    =
    “Goku never actually planet-busted”.

    He hasn’t, should have the power to do so.
    =
    “Bills can starbust”

    We have one quote from a guidebook(which I’ve used before, but to be honest, have no clue how reliable it is. Considering Cell’s statement is taken seriously by one of them), a summary for the next movie, from a trailer, and one mention of power from one of the movies. So, haven’t seen it yet, but seems that way.
    =
    “and everyone else has claims and powerscaling that don’t necessarily work?”

    Pretty much… I mean, we’ve seen examples of powerscaling not working exactly the way fans of the show make it seem like they work, etc.

  65. KalaDellexe April 12, 2015 at 12:43 am -      #65

    Slightly off topic, but speaking of Daredevil, he might be interesting for a match here. I’m at the tail end of episode six now, and he already has some very impressive feats with his combat prowess and his senses. Maybe him versus Dark Knight Trilogy Batman would be a good match?

    On topic, I know pretty little about either of these combatants (most of my knowledge about CA is from the movies and a tiny amount of research), but CA’s shield throwing feats look to be incredibly powerful showings. If Commando can’t reliably dodge the shield he’s going to be in a mess of trouble. And also, CA’d be able to bring the same forces to bear in straight up melee, right? If anything his shield strikes would be more powerful because they aren’t constantly losing energy to drag.

  66. Rookie April 12, 2015 at 1:15 am -      #66

    @Friendlysociopath

    “everyone else is just… regular FTL.”

    Not sure. Laharl destroyed every star in sight and later 2 million ships, while at the same time he saved all crew from this ship in less than 2 minutes when he was around level 80 or less. Everyone above that level is faster than him. Level 300 for example can kick his ass with no problem.

  67. Jake_Uzumaki April 12, 2015 at 1:35 am -      #67

    Well Vegeta was killed by a planet buster despite SSgSS so….

    And Frieza’s new form which is supposed to be more powerful than any other villain up to Buu…was barely stronger than his full power form originally was so make of that what you will.
    And Beerus who apparently has blown up stars is supposed to be massively more powerful than gold Frieza SSgSS Goku or SSgSS Vegeta…granted that doesn’t necessarily mean anything but still seems hard to believe that with such a massive gap from Cell to Beerus that the destructive capacity wouldn’t be even close to the same ballpark. It just seems weird for planet busting to still be relevant and lethal to the protagonists at a point where characters are more powerful than Cell by a supposedly large degree

  68. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 12, 2015 at 2:47 am -      #68

    “It just seems weird for planet busting to still be relevant and lethal to the protagonists at a point where characters are more powerful than Cell by a supposedly large degree”

    Could just mean their output is higher than how much they can tank. Which would support the idea that not all their blasts are at full power all the time.

  69. Jake_Uzumaki April 12, 2015 at 10:15 am -      #69

    It just seems almost like too much of a gap. They’ve always been glass cannons there was never doubt, I mean yeah maybe Goku and Vegeta will hit that point at this rate, but their still apparently massively weaker than Beerus. Which makes sense due to Revival of F putting the actual numerical power increase of Frieza to be able to one shot current Gohan to be….rather pathetic. (his level went up 300,000….thats it. and yes I know, Power Levels are Bullshit, but still they made the point of saying golden Frieza has a power level of 1,300,000 not me) which kind of puts a giant question mark over all the supposed massive increase in power post Frieza saga….I mean unless Gohan just got that freaking weak since Buu saga it makes no sense. I mean if power had increased as much as we’d been led to believe by all the “he’s so much stronger than x comments”
    Hell apparently Majinn Buu is a “do not fuck with” entity for Frieza’s race because his dad outright told him there are two people you never fuck with, Beerus god of destruction and Majinn Buu.
    But now only a 300,000 increase in his vaunted power level puts him at “slap Buu around as long as I don’t get distracted like a dumbass” levels?
    I know Scouters are useless but Frieza’s showing off not hiding his power so there can’t be THAT many orders of magnitude of disparity?
    Or is DBZ character durability really so shitty that so long as it would kill anyone it hits it kills them? Is their durability actually only mildly superhuman?

  70. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 12, 2015 at 11:57 am -      #70

    ” which kind of puts a giant question mark over all the supposed massive increase in power post Frieza saga….”

    Well, we have no idea what makes power level increase. We also don’t know how much harder power levels are to increase the at the higher levels, etc. PL are too undefined and unexplained to really go off of them. For all we know a powerlevel difference of 3 to 4 is only about twice as strong while a power level of 1,000,000 to 1,000,001 is about 200 times stronger, so on so forth, just as an example.

    And we also don’t know how much an increase of PL does to physical and ki stats. Maybe from 100 to 110 means now your stronger, faster, still same durability, and same ki output. Plus is it the same across the board for everyone?
    =
    “Hell apparently Majinn Buu is a “do not fuck with” entity for Frieza’s race because his dad outright told him there are two people you never fuck with, Beerus god of destruction and Majinn Buu.”

    ???
    =
    “I know Scouters are useless but Frieza’s showing off not hiding his power so there can’t be THAT many orders of magnitude of disparity?”

    Yea, I’ve always thought that was a possibility. It’s not that surprising since PL are so undefined scales of power.
    =
    ” Is their durability actually only mildly superhuman?”

    I know Vegeta and Nappa survived a city busting ki blast when they got on Earth. And Piccolo should be able to spam moon busting ki blasts(he did it pretty casually same way BRB has in the passed).so that’s also a possibility.

  71. Friendlysociopath April 12, 2015 at 1:29 pm -      #71

    But now only a 300,000 increase in his vaunted power level puts him at “slap Buu around as long as I don’t get distracted like a dumbass” levels?

    Didn’t Buu expel his eviler side or something? I’d imagine that weakening him for combat at least.

    ” Is their durability actually only mildly superhuman?”

    “Mildly” superhuman? Don’t they routinely get punched through mountains and survive blasts that level cities?

    And Piccolo should be able to spam moon busting ki blasts


    I guess you could call CIS that the good guys really don’t want to go around destroying planets when they fight.

  72. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm -      #72

    “I guess you could call CIS that the good guys really don’t want to go around destroying planets when they fight.”

    Well, what I mean is that he just did it, no warning, and no real mention of it later. As opposed to every time the Earth gets threatened it’s like: “Hai guize, guess wut. I’m pewing da world!” And everyone freaks out and looses their shit over it and dies. Or runs away to another dimension.

  73. Jake_Uzumaki April 12, 2015 at 3:57 pm -      #73

    “Didn’t Buu expel his eviler side or something? ”

    He’s apparently more powerful than Ultimate SS Gohan, who was able to kick around base Super Buu.

  74. Nomad May 13, 2015 at 8:06 pm -      #74

    “The shield block energy attacks but seems to conduct electricity just fine. Iirc that what they used on Tony when he was in a coma.”

    I can’t find the scan but Thor unleashed a ton of lighting onto the shield and it didn’t electrocute Captain America.

    This was a really cool match idea. We need more Commando on this site.

  75. Jake_Uzumaki May 13, 2015 at 8:52 pm -      #75

    its after Caps shield was fixed/healed of its vibranium cancer, Cap had Tony put it through a ton of tests and the final one was seeing if Thor could wreck it the penultimate final test of if the shield was indestructible again, after it had already been shot by a intercontinental missile and been through everything Tony could think of. Also says something for Thor that Cap’s final “is my shield totally indestructible” test is him.
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/45351/2228759-capagainstthorue6.jpg

  76. Jake_Uzumaki May 13, 2015 at 9:02 pm -      #76

    also found this but I’m unsure if Ronan is using generic cosmic energy or lightning, I could believe either photo2.ask.fm/555/181/759/-249996991-1sfmb5n-i2p271afgea7c6k/original/172.jpg

  77. Limbo Lowk May 14, 2015 at 12:20 am -      #77

    “The shield block energy attacks but seems to conduct electricity just fine. Iirc that what they used on Tony when he was in a coma.”

    No worries Lowk, Lowks got you back
    i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff425/superbot400/Iron%20Man/Imagebot/Intelligence%20%20Extermis/Tactical%20Smarts/Plans/Invincible_Iron_Man_021_017.jpg
    static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/43640/1315538-invincible_iron_man_021_pg_20.jpg
    dawnguard.freeiz.com/comics/invincible-iron-man/21/halaman/Invincible_Iron_Man_021_019_020.jpg
    And the synopsis of the event “the power of Thor’s lightning, conducted through vibranium, the ultra-strong metal of Cap’s shield.”
    www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/6342/prv4173_pg2.jpg

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