Kharn the Betrayer Vs Stitch

Kharn the Betrayer Vs Stitch

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Kharn the Betrayer (Warhammer 40 000) goes up against Stitch (Lilo & Stitch)

Factpile’s favorite red headed stepchild looked at Lilo funny. He now has a ballistic Stitch headed his way. Does he survive? Or does the alien monstrosit- uh, I mean.. Dog.. get a new squeak toy?

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87 Comments on "Kharn the Betrayer Vs Stitch"

  1. Commander Cross April 4, 2015 at 7:42 am -      #1

    This match is a Nominee of the Month Award Winner for ‘Most Witty Pun Thus Far,’

    ‘Factpile’s Favorite Red-Headed Step-Child,’ actually.

    Initial bets are on Stitch if Stitch is Armed to the Teeth, otherwise this fight’s likely gonna take a while.

    Stitch is an interesting Space Alien, I’ve yet to see him in CTF-related regards more often though.

  2. LadyRamkin April 4, 2015 at 7:44 am -      #2

    Stitch Has caught and thrown back plasma fire before

    Stitch has survived a gas/petrol thing truck exploding at point blank and remained completely unaffected.

    Stitch can lift objects 3000 times his size.

    Stitch can squeeze himself through air tight gaps.

    Stitch has survived crashing a spaceship from orbit with no sign of harm whatsoever

    Stich has been hit by multiple trucks and was only knocked out for a little while with no permanent damage

    Stitch can think faster than super computer, how that translates into reflexes i don’t know.

    Stitch can play the guitar like a boss.

  3. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 8:33 am -      #3

    So some speed feats, all within the first 10 minutes of the movie:

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=R8KXC99hx1A

    —–
    3:50 hops from side to side away from shots that look like space Gatling Guns

    4:06 dodging more plasma rounds

    4:12 can apparently crawl faster than the shots fired

    4:35 is able to weave and maneuver his way through countless ships firing at him in space.
    ——-
    m.youtube.com/watch?v=ch9pNdrB_oE

    19:00, chucks Dark End into space, and then she comes crashing down.

  4. LadyRamkin April 4, 2015 at 8:53 am -      #4

    There’s an anime? When did this happen???

  5. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 9:10 am -      #5

    @Lady
    Apparently sometime 2009-2010. He got a typical power boost in the finale, which made him stronger and allowed him a shield that could tank Attacks hurting him before his upgrade.
    —–
    How strong is Kharn? Stitch was freakishly durable even before his power boost.

  6. Friendlysociopath April 4, 2015 at 11:26 am -      #6

    How strong is Kharn?

    Should be somewhere in the wall-busting to car-flipping range AFAIK. He’s strong with his armor but it’s relatively focused and realistic strength.

    “Factpile’s favorite red-headed stepchild”

    ^This, this was so good

  7. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 11:29 am -      #7

    Not enough to hurt Stitch then.

  8. Tarbel April 4, 2015 at 12:36 pm -      #8

    Hey, what happened to those Warhammer fans? I remember when typical space marines were able to lift a million pounds~=400+ tons, dodge highly supersonic rounds, and chew through steel bars with their teeth.

  9. LadyRamkin April 4, 2015 at 12:42 pm -      #9

    Pimpmage knows about 40k

  10. pimpmage April 4, 2015 at 1:04 pm -      #10

    I really don’t think kharn has any way of actually hurting stitch. Kharn should have better reaction times and movement speed, though it’s been awhile since I’ve seen the movie. I don’t remember how fast stitch can actually move. Kharn’s ax sure as hell wouldn’t damage stitch, his only chance would probably be his plasma pistol.

  11. pimpmage April 4, 2015 at 1:33 pm -      #11

    @tarbel
    When did people ever say they lift millions of pounds? Also, with that dodging supersonic rounds bit, that is still fairly accurate.

  12. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 2:12 pm -      #12

    Stitch can move faster than the plasma rounds shot at him in the movies and the tv shows. Don’t know how they compare to 40K, but I posted a vid with the shots in them, if anyone is interested.
    —-
    In the animated series, he had some FTE feats too. (Faster than eyesight). He’s got minuscule amounts of toonforce going for him.

  13. Friendlysociopath April 4, 2015 at 2:26 pm -      #13

    but I posted a vid with the shots in them, if anyone is interested.

    Taken down
    That said, I know he catches and juggles plasma rounds fired at him without much of an issue before throwing them back- doesn’t one of his cousins shoot lava?

  14. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 2:29 pm -      #14

    One shoots Fire, one shoots lava. Take your pick.
    —-
    Guess I’ll refind the movie again.

  15. Friendlysociopath April 4, 2015 at 4:02 pm -      #15

    Suppose I’ll just throw Jumba’s initial explanation of experiment 626 out here:
    “He is bulletproof, fireproof, shockproof, and can think faster than [a] super computer. He can see in the dark and can move objects 3,000 times his size. His only instinct – to destroy everything he touches!””

    It also says Stitch drove a tanker of gasoline into a volcano and came out “a little singed”. Combined with him being able to catch plasma bolts- I’m guessing plasma isn’t going to hinder him that much.

    Btw, the wiki says that Stitch! anime isn’t canon. So we’re back to being able to lift 3,000 times his own weight.

  16. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 4:11 pm -      #16

    @Friendly
    Oh. Still pretty strong. Enough to hurt Kharn? Or is it more than enough?

  17. Jake_Uzumaki April 4, 2015 at 4:20 pm -      #17

    In the finale of the anime when he gained his double power (activating his second reactor) he was able to throw Dark End, who up to that point had been casually trashing Stitch and some of the stronger experiments like Ace at the same time, into orbit/upper atmosphere…through a spaceship.

    I wonder if Stitch vs MoS Supes could be good.

  18. pimpmage April 4, 2015 at 4:55 pm -      #18

    So does stitch have any standard equipment? I know he uses a few guns in the movie. If not, all stitch can do is try to grapple kharn. I doubt kharn could really even grapple stitch because he can fit his body through impossible spaces. Kharn could just keep dodging and try to nail him with plasma.

  19. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 4:58 pm -      #19

    He doesn’t use his guns enough for them to count as standard equipment.
    ——
    How strong is 40K plasma? Stitch has caught plasma and thrown it back. He’s also just flat out dodged it.

  20. pimpmage April 4, 2015 at 5:29 pm -      #20

    I have read a book that mentioned a IG trooper with a plasma gun that slagged a tank with a single shot. And a SM plasma pistol would probably do about the same thing based on size alone. Keep in mind, this is 40k level tank armor too. Plasma can slag even terminator armor. I can get quotes on that too.

  21. LadyRamkin April 4, 2015 at 5:32 pm -      #21

    “Plasma can slag even terminator armor.”

    Is there a fluff reason why terminator armour would melt at a higher temperature than normal armour?

  22. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 5:48 pm -      #22

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=CNdnW9sbYHc
    —–
    1:31:27: driving an oil tanker into an active volcano and getting blasted out of it.

  23. LadyRamkin April 4, 2015 at 5:59 pm -      #23

    How do his feet reach the pedals.

    Even if he put a brick on the accelerator he couldn’t reach that speed without using the clutch.

  24. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 6:01 pm -      #24

    Because Disney, Ramkin.
    —–
    About a minute before the scene I’m talking about in post 22, Stitch reacts to and dodges Gantu’s space ship cannon.

  25. LadyRamkin April 4, 2015 at 6:04 pm -      #25

    “Because Disney, Ramkin”

  26. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 6:15 pm -      #26

    Heh, funny,
    —–
    Anyway, Stitch might just win through attrition. There’s really nothing Kharn can do to hurt him, even disregarding anime feats.

  27. LadyRamkin April 4, 2015 at 6:16 pm -      #27

    Maybe we should now have a whole months worth of matches with stitch in them…. that would be fun…

  28. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 6:27 pm -      #28

    I’ve suggested a few, Stitch has some pretty good feats…for a Disney character, at least.

  29. Jake_Uzumaki April 4, 2015 at 6:56 pm -      #29

    Stitch is probably one of Disney’s strongest characters physically (pretty sure Disney Herc is the flat out physically strongest) probably the top ten or so considering he did toss someone into the upper atmosphere which is probably his craziest strength feat.

    His primary problem is just he has few speed feats. He’s durable as fuck and strong, but he can’t keep up with a lot of the people actually in his ballpark and his strength has a disturbingly specific limit (like literally even a piece of paper or a bird landing on top of something thats exactly the max weight he lifts is too much I’m pretty sure Gantu actually used a feather to do it once)

  30. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 7:08 pm -      #30

    Does thinking faster than a supercomputer translate into RT? Plus his numerous feats with dodging plasma should help us with determining reactions.

  31. Jake_Uzumaki April 4, 2015 at 7:35 pm -      #31

    Maybe I’m not sure, on his mental capabilities….I wonder if he could dismantle Kharn’s armor/gear.

  32. pimpmage April 4, 2015 at 7:59 pm -      #32

    Dodging plasma plasma from one universe doesn’t translate to all universes though. If I remember right, the plasma gun thing from the movie was easily trackable with our eyes. Much slower than a bullet.

  33. Neon Lord April 4, 2015 at 8:52 pm -      #33

    “Is there a fluff reason why terminator armour would melt at a higher temperature than normal armour?”

    Terminator Armour was originally based off industrial armour that was able to do maintenance inside fusion reactors i.e. inside plasma chambers. That’s pretty damn heat-resistant.

    How hot is Stitch-universe plasma?

  34. Friendlysociopath April 4, 2015 at 9:03 pm -      #34

    How hot is Stitch-universe plasma?

    Pretty sure it melts through almost everything it hits; you can see the… big whale guy shooting straight through his own ship with his hand blaster.

  35. LadyRamkin April 4, 2015 at 9:04 pm -      #35

    “Terminator Armour was originally based off industrial armour that was able to do maintenance inside fusion reactors i.e. inside plasma chambers. That’s pretty damn heat-resistant.”

    Cool

  36. pimpmage April 4, 2015 at 9:14 pm -      #36

    Are you sure that stuff was plasma? It made me think of like acidic goo. Though it’s been awhile since I saw the movie, I could be wrong.

  37. Ordo11 April 4, 2015 at 9:38 pm -      #37

    Wheeelllll they say that jumbo uses plasma cannon, to briefly imobilivpze him to try and capture him.

  38. Jake_Uzumaki April 4, 2015 at 9:42 pm -      #38

    It’s plasma, works much like blaster bolts in Star Wars and plasma blasts in 40K its magnetically sealed until it hits the target. Just where it can vary in color in Star Wars and is, as far as I know always blue in 40K, its green in Stitchverse. Stitch is somehow able to manhandle it without breaking that field. I guess something to do with his biology, maybe his body has a naturally high magnetic field that allows him to essentially use his hands the way a Jedi uses a lightsaber, maybe he’s just incredibly gentle enough to not break the field, I honestly don’t know how he does it.

  39. Ordo11 April 4, 2015 at 9:50 pm -      #39

    Yeah stitch verse is weird, then again its disney.

  40. pimpmage April 4, 2015 at 9:52 pm -      #40

    Is there any definitive proof anywhere that mentions if it’s actually plasma? Does the show have plasma weaponry?

  41. LadyRamkin April 4, 2015 at 10:12 pm -      #41


    – – –
    For plasma quote

  42. Friendlysociopath April 4, 2015 at 10:32 pm -      #42

    @12:00 on Ramkin’s video Jumba talks about how a plasma gun should be enough to stun him. Not sure if that’s the part he wanted but they do say it there.

  43. LadyRamkin April 4, 2015 at 10:38 pm -      #43

    Does it not just link there? Every time i look at the vid it starts at 11:53…

  44. pimpmage April 4, 2015 at 10:41 pm -      #44

    Ok, so just to clear some stuff up since nobody has asked, I have never seen any quotes showing how fast 40k plasma is shot. Those weapons are very rarely ever shown in novels, my guess is because the results plasma gives are never as satisfying to read compared to someone getting blown to pieces by bolt rounds.

  45. Friendlysociopath April 4, 2015 at 10:43 pm -      #45

    Does it not just link there? Every time i look at the vid it starts at 11:53…

    It says that- them jumps to 5:44 for some reason.

    Guess someone should point out Gantu shakes the ground with every step he takes- and Stitch manhandles him without an issue.

  46. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 10:45 pm -      #46

    Stitch also blitzes him and stuff before Gantu can even react, in like, every episode of the regular TV series.

  47. Ragnorke April 4, 2015 at 10:53 pm -      #47

    Not sure how many of you guys read comics… But did anyone read the New Avengers issue where Star Brand killed a fucking Beyonder? *Spoilers*

    Just read it.
    My mind’s blown.

    Oh, Hyperion & Thor 616 got killed too.

    Seems like a good time to bring back… The Sentry… But what do i know *Whistles away*

  48. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 10:55 pm -      #48

    Thor is…dead? Like, Wolvie levels of dead? He’s not coming back?
    —-
    Also, is there some place online I can find these comics? Don’t really feel like going to a store..

  49. Jake_Uzumaki April 4, 2015 at 11:03 pm -      #49

    youtu.be/CNdnW9sbYHc?t=695
    11:55 Jumba says a plasma cannon might stun him (the only gun we ever see him use being the cannon in question)

    All the weapons in the series seem to be of the same series/make, just being variations. Which include ones at the very start during his escape with apparently blue plasma (though could have just been the lighting in the scene)

    Also during the Lilo adopting him scene he’s able to hear Pleakly whispering from quite a ways away through a closed door and wall. Pretty impressive hearing feat though the scenario doesn’t really put them at a great distance where that could be in play.

  50. Tarbel April 4, 2015 at 11:04 pm -      #50

    I guess I remembered space marines wrong. I do remember specifically 1 million pounds for lifting strength for something, guess not space marines.

    How much does Stitch weigh? I hear he has a iron-titanium skeleton or something, so he might weigh pretty heavy.
    He’s still probably at least 40lbs which equates to at least 120,000 lbs ~= 53 tons. I found some thread where I guy said Stitch was 120lbs meaning 360,000 lbs lifting strength ~=153 tons

    However, Kharn seems to be pretty damn strong/durable if this respect thread is accurate:
    www.comicvine.com/profile/strider92/blog/kharn-the-betrayer-respect-thread/93467/

    But far more relevant is Kharn’s speed compared to Stitch. I don’t think Stitch has too many feats of speed while Kharn has gone as far as taking down a 30 Khornate Berzerkers who are basically cyborg enhanced bloodlusted space marines with much more experience than the average space marine who fight using just melee weapons. So Kharn has essentially fought 30 confirmed experienced bullet timers all at once and came out on top, and this is after having killed over 2000 other opponents.

  51. Neon Lord April 4, 2015 at 11:04 pm -      #51

    “Ok, so just to clear some stuff up since nobody has asked, I have never seen any quotes showing how fast 40k plasma is shot”

    I can’t remember where I saw it since it was so long ago, but I remember plasma rounds reaching their target near-instantaneously. I know of one quote that says “before he can shout a warning” after it fires and then it hits. I would think bullet-speed for 40k plasma is a fair estimation.

  52. Ragnorke April 4, 2015 at 11:08 pm -      #52

    “Thor is…dead? Like, Wolvie levels of dead? He’s not coming back?”

    Well, “Thor Corp” is gunna come out soon(?) which is a series involving every incarnation of “Thor” ever, from across the Multiverse. Like thousands of them, all in a group (or against each other)
    But yea, Thor 616 (mainstream comic universe) is now dead.

    The Remaining Avengers (Cap, Thor, Hyperion, Starbrand, Hawkeye, etc..) got caught by the Beyonders in this point between universes.
    And they got butt fucked.
    Starbrand exploded after getting stabbed, and killed a handful of Beyonders, but Thor & Hyperion are dead now.
    So… No more Avengers i suppose.

    The illuminati (Ironman, Black Panther, Black Bolt, etc…) are still going around destroying planets, delaying the end of the universe.
    Although the rest of the heroes on earth consider them villains now.

    The Cabal (Thanos, Namor, Terrax, etc…) are also still destroying planets, since Namor got kicked out of the illuminati.

    The Watcher’s dead.

    All the Celestial’s are dead.

    The Living Tribunal is dead.

    All the cosmic cubes are gone.

    Eternity is dead, Infinity is dead, Galactus is shitting himself although still alive i think(?)

    The infinity gem & all the infinity stones are destroyed.

    Franklin Richards “died”, although he still exists in the future time-line. i think that was a different universe.

    Dr Doom (Rabum Alal) is working with Owen Reece (Molecule Man) to stop the Beyonders.
    They built a base of operations in this place beyond the multiverse.

    Dr Strange is now in charge of the Black Priests, who are trying to stop both Doom & The Beyonders.

    Marvel’s in a serious shitstorm right now.

  53. Ragnorke April 4, 2015 at 11:09 pm -      #53

    Totally off topic… Sorry guys…

    Was just hoping for one of the comic readers :3

  54. Jake_Uzumaki April 4, 2015 at 11:11 pm -      #54

    “Thor is…dead? Like, Wolvie levels of dead? He’s not coming back?”

    The last panels were him and Hyperion charging into a hoard of millions of Beyonders.

    That said some preview images for Secret Wars appear to show him still alive and kicking….but the context of the images is completely unknown. Could be flashbacks.
    Plus Future Thor back in the god butcher storyline referenced the plot of the Thor Secret Wars comic…..all the Thor’s forming a space cop department…..so….make of that what you will.

  55. Jake_Uzumaki April 4, 2015 at 11:14 pm -      #55

    “Marvel’s in a serious shitstorm right now.”

    And yet still better than Braniac apparently doing the same thing in DC…..complete with a strange version of Battleworld made up of various cities from across the DC multiverse……….

  56. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 11:20 pm -      #56

    Is it just me, or is Marvel on its way to some reboot event? It seems like they’re setting it up perfectly…
    —-
    As long as Spidey doesn’t die, I’m good.

  57. Jake_Uzumaki April 4, 2015 at 11:21 pm -      #57

    oh god just saw this…… i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Convergence01.jpg
    d….did they just….steal what Marvel is doing right now? Heroes having to decide if their world is worth destroying another? I mean….I knew it was a similar idea already but….this? what the hell!

  58. Jake_Uzumaki April 4, 2015 at 11:26 pm -      #58

    @Nsl98
    From what I’ve heard its a soft reboot, they are getting rid of some universes, altering the history of some characters, and merging various universe and timelines. I don’t know how accurate that is but still.

  59. Friendlysociopath April 4, 2015 at 11:29 pm -      #59

    d….did they just….steal what Marvel is doing right now?

    To be fair, it’s not like that’s a new idea. But they do seem to be doing it in a similar fashion at a similar time.

  60. Nsl98 April 4, 2015 at 11:30 pm -      #60

    @Jake
    Oh, OK. So like, modernizing some characters or something? Hopefully they’ll do a better job then they did with Ultimate.

  61. Ragnorke April 4, 2015 at 11:46 pm -      #61

    So.. This Star Brand thing kinda came out of nowhere.

    He’s the only known character to have killed a Beyonder right?

    @Nsl
    “Oh, OK. So like, modernizing some characters or something? Hopefully they’ll do a better job then they did with Ultimate.”

    Ultimate was always a spin-off universe, one of many.
    There’s “millions” of alternate realities.
    This event has been destroying them all.

    It’s basically going to fuse Marvels shit storm of a Multiverse into a more focused one.
    They’re copying what DC did. Though in a much more interesting and epic way.
    So i find it rather comedic how DC is now copying Marvels worlds colliding thing.

    The build up for this has been going on for years.
    I believe the Beyonders were mentioned some time during the original Infinity Gauntlet series, and were only mentioned a handful of times over the course of 50 years.
    I find it incredible Marvel actually included them to a major story line, and didn’t just forget about them as one of the many mentioned “Omnipotents”

  62. Aelfinn April 4, 2015 at 11:52 pm -      #62

    We should remember that Space Marines’ vary in feats…
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsvCLG1QZjs

    Because it’s Games Workshop, and they don’t give a shit about canon.

  63. Ragnorke April 4, 2015 at 11:56 pm -      #63

    And of course… I don’t mean to brag…

    But i TOTALLY called it.

    I said The Beyonders were responsible for killing Living Tribunal and starting this mess, almost a year before the Beyonders were first shown.
    And waayyyyyy before proof of Beyonders killing Living Tribunal was released.

    I’m secretly Jonathan hickman.
    Or Jack Kirby.
    Or… Stanley.

  64. Jake_Uzumaki April 5, 2015 at 12:00 am -      #64

    @Ragnorke
    yeah the build up has been going on for a very long time, I like the way their doing it so far and I’m willing to see where this goes.

    I doubt Thor’s staying dead, but if he were too, charging an army of nigh omni’s is a hell of a way to go.

    @Friendly
    true, its just that tagline being released….right in the middle of Marvel doing that exact idea.

  65. Karen Starr April 5, 2015 at 12:11 am -      #65

    I actually have issue 0 of convergence. It’s more Brainiac/Brainiacs have a vast collection of different versions of assorted DC cities from different worlds. The N52 Braniac being the main one that is currently on his way to take N52 Metropolis to add to his collection.

  66. Ordo11 April 5, 2015 at 12:12 am -      #66

    So has stitch won or is this still a debate, also…fascinating.

  67. Karen Starr April 5, 2015 at 12:16 am -      #67

    It was a whim buy for me though, I was mostly picking up the last two issues of Thor, and the newest Secret Six

  68. Ragnorke April 5, 2015 at 1:00 am -      #68

    I liked the Hyperion/Thor bromance.
    Better than 99% of Marvels “relationships”.

    pbs.twimg.com/media/CBXRE3gWcAAKAZd.jpg:large


    *sheds a single manly tear*

  69. Nsl98 April 5, 2015 at 1:20 am -      #69

    @Rag
    m.youtube.com/watch?v=EJVt8kUAm9Q

  70. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 5, 2015 at 2:04 am -      #70

    “The Remaining Avengers (Cap, Thor, Hyperion, Starbrand, Hawkeye, etc..) got caught by the Beyonders in this point between universes.
    And they got butt fucked.”

    Huh? Thought it was just Ex Nihli, Abyss, Nightmask, Starbrand, Thor, and Hyperion.
    =
    “The illuminati (Ironman, Black Panther, Black Bolt, etc…) are still going around destroying planets, delaying the end of the universe.
    Although the rest of the heroes on earth consider them villains now.”

    Thought that was resolved by now.
    =
    “The Cabal (Thanos, Namor, Terrax, etc…) are also still destroying planets, since Namor got kicked out of the illuminati.”

    Weren’t they stranded on Ultimate Earth?
    =
    “Franklin Richards “died”, although he still exists in the future time-line. i think that was a different universe.”

    Future time thing? From Original Sin?
    =
    “oh god just saw this…… i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Convergence01.jpg
    d….did they just….steal what Marvel is doing right now? Heroes having to decide if their world is worth destroying another? I mean….I knew it was a similar idea already but….this? what the hell!”

    To be fair, Marvel and DC rip each other off all the time… I mean Marvel literally has 5ish different Supes and two different JL’s for example. Not really fair to complain when both companies do it all the time to each other.
    =
    “To be fair, it’s not like that’s a new idea. But they do seem to be doing it in a similar fashion at a similar time.”

    Which is weird, or is that just me? Canon cross multiversal crossover universe please? No? I can dream can’t I…
    =
    “So.. This Star Brand thing kinda came out of nowhere.”

    Are you caught up on Time Runs Out?
    =
    “He’s the only known character to have killed a Beyonder right?”

    AFAIK, yes.

  71. Ragnorke April 5, 2015 at 12:25 pm -      #71

    “Huh? Thought it was just Ex Nihli, Abyss, Nightmask, Starbrand, Thor, and Hyperion.”

    I meant it was a Team of Avengers, and just went on to name some characters that are still considered “Avengers”.
    Since a lot of characters have split up and so on.

    “Thought that was resolved by now.”

    Was it?
    I recall Kang & Ironlad telling Captain America to let the Illuminati continue doing what they’re doing… But i dunno if Cap resolved it with them or not.

    “Future time thing? From Original Sin?”

    The time gem shinanegins.
    Frank was alive 4,000(?) years in the future, after the Ultron invasion was completed.

    “Which is weird, or is that just me? Canon cross multiversal crossover universe please? No? I can dream can’t I…”

    Justice League x Avengers was a similar story actually…
    And it’s canon too. (Lobo makes a reference to letting Wolverine win, in a later DC issue. Marvel has it listed in a couple of their annual collectors edition things. And both sides have made references to “the egg” which started the event)
    Only three issues though, with literally no build up to it.
    Ending is disappointing too.

    “Are you caught up on Time Runs Out?”

    Don’t think i’m up to date with it.
    I’m positive i skipped through a lot too.
    Just started with Uncanny Inhumans #0, seems really good.

    Btw, did you read XMen Legacy last year?
    This happened:
    www.turboimagehost.com/p/17778919/X-Men_-_Legacy_v2_024-014.jpg.html
    www.turboimagehost.com/p/17778920/X-Men_-_Legacy_v2_024-015.jpg.html
    Charles Xaviers son is the “weaver”, who created all the threads of space/time.

  72. CH1C4N0444 is allergic to bullets April 5, 2015 at 2:54 pm -      #72

    “I meant it was a Team of Avengers, and just went on to name some characters that are still considered “Avengers”.
    Since a lot of characters have split up and so on.”

    Alright, just wondering.
    =
    “Was it?
    I recall Kang & Ironlad telling Captain America to let the Illuminati continue doing what they’re doing… But i dunno if Cap resolved it with them or not.”

    O, yea. You’re way behind then.
    =
    “The time gem shinanegins.
    Frank was alive 4,000(?) years in the future, after the Ultron invasion was completed.”

    Yea, Original Sin then.
    =
    “Justice League x Avengers was a similar story actually…”

    I was more thinking along the lines of this:

    marvel.wikia.com/Earth-7642

    Only as opposed to the occasional crossover it would be a more frequently visited universe, like Ultimate, 2099, Supremeverse, or Earth 2.
    =
    “Don’t think i’m up to date with it.
    I’m positive i skipped through a lot too.”

    Might be why you didn’t know it was resolved. Yea, it’s been resolved, although now the Galactic Council and Earth are having a fisticuffs of sorts.
    Just started with Uncanny Inhumans #0, seems really good.”
    =
    “Btw, did you read XMen Legacy last year?
    This happened:
    www.turboimagehost.com/p/17778919/X-Men_-_Legacy_v2_024-014.jpg.html
    www.turboimagehost.com/p/17778920/X-Men_-_Legacy_v2_024-015.jpg.html
    Charles Xaviers son is the “weaver”, who created all the threads of space/time.”

    Huh, wow. Don’t follow X-Men so this is surprising to me.

  73. Sauroposeidon April 5, 2015 at 7:15 pm -      #73

    I see I’m late to the party, but I thought I’d mention that I’ve never seen the anime, and hadn’t thought to include it in this debate. It’s primarily the stuff that was made stateside, or was intended to be at least, for Sitch’s feats.

  74. Nsl98 April 5, 2015 at 8:09 pm -      #74

    Oh, so the 4 movies and the American TV Series?

    Guess that eliminates the orbit feat.

  75. Friendlysociopath April 5, 2015 at 8:19 pm -      #75

    Guess that eliminates the orbit feat.

    He’s still strong enough to pick up and throw Gantu without any stress whatsoever. How this translates into striking strength is… somewhat debatable. If he can lift 53 tons as Tarbel gave as a low-end; exactly how much striking strength would that be? He might be able to punch something into orbit just via calcs.

  76. Nsl98 April 5, 2015 at 8:40 pm -      #76

    So how would Kharn handle Stitch repeatedly ramming into him and throwing his plasma back at him?
    —-
    I’m inclined to still side with Stitch even discounting anime feats.

  77. pimpmage April 5, 2015 at 8:53 pm -      #77

    “So how would Kharn handle Stitch repeatedly ramming into him and throwing his plasma back at him?”

    You still assume stitch has the reflexes and movement speed to keep up with kharn. You are so wrong.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7NgrljaDhY

    Early in this scene, you can see stitch get pierced with a needle. This tells me kharns ax would actually wound him well enough.

    Also, there seems to be a second movie, called: Lilo & Stitch 2: Stitch Has a Glitch.

  78. Nsl98 April 5, 2015 at 9:36 pm -      #78

    There are four movies and an entire tv series. And an anime. But that’s not canon.
    —–
    So, the fact that it could be an alien space needle means nothing? Plus, he gets blasted out of a volcano, falls into the ground at terminal velocity, and bounces off of mountains later on in that same movie.

  79. Ordo11 April 5, 2015 at 10:58 pm -      #79

    stitch is also restrained in that scene so he can’t dodge. Also that needle was probably designed specifically to pierce stitches hide.

  80. pimpmage April 5, 2015 at 11:25 pm -      #80

    “stitch is also restrained in that scene so he can’t dodge. Also that needle was probably designed specifically to pierce stitches hide.”

    Dodge? He is slower than a bullet. By a LARGE margin. Also, about that needle bit, they were not the ones that created him. Stitch was created by illegal cloning tech, nothing the authorities would have known so many detail of, enough to make a specific needle for. That sounds like a stupid excuse.

  81. Neon Lord April 6, 2015 at 5:09 am -      #81

    “So, the fact that it could be an alien space needle means nothing? Plus, he gets blasted out of a volcano, falls into the ground at terminal velocity, and bounces off of mountains later on in that same movie.”

    A needle is a penetrative force, like a Chainaxe. Everything you described are showings of blunt trauma, which is different.

  82. Friendlysociopath April 6, 2015 at 8:10 am -      #82

    A needle is a penetrative force, like a Chainaxe. Everything you described are showings of blunt trauma, which is different.

    Well Jumba did say Stitch was bulletproof- wouldn’t that mean Stitch would break a normal needle?

  83. Nsl98 April 6, 2015 at 8:43 am -      #83

    Yeah, it’s like the Hulk with Adamantium.
    —–
    I mean, they are in space with lots of technology to draw from. And they had Stitch imprisoned for a few hours already, logic would assume that they had a way already planned out to deal with illegal experiments.
    ——
    Considering they evenade a law against the whole genetic experimentation thing.

  84. pimpmage April 6, 2015 at 9:55 am -      #84

    If jumba said stitch was bullet proof, that does jack shit against kharn. His armor would be pretty much invulnerable to any of our planet’s weaponry maybe just sort of tank shells or fighter jets. And kharns ax is able to chop space marines to pieces for days on end.

    In short, kharn’s ax>>>>>>a bullet.

  85. Sauroposeidon April 6, 2015 at 11:42 am -      #85

    There’s really no point in discussing the needle. We know so little about it that it’s pointless to try and figure anything out from it. There are likely other scenes that could be used.

  86. pimpmage April 6, 2015 at 12:14 pm -      #86

    Apparently, there should be like 3 movies after the first. And since they are movies, they would most likely all be canon. I have never heard of them before now though. Plenty of stuff to pull feats from.

  87. Ordo11 April 7, 2015 at 1:27 am -      #87

    There are more movies!! WTF!!!!! Caps means screams BTW!!!!

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