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Naruto mostl likely wins. I am not sure if Carnage ofVenom can damage him.
4 tails Naruto doesn’t have any skin his weird colour/texureness is his blood mixing with chakra, if one of the symbiotes can get close enough undetected they might be able to bond with his blood.
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Or they might burn away, no idea.
4 tails was when he sucked in all that Chakra and spit it out in that giant beam thing to “kill” Oruchimaru right?
They also said that’s the point where he loses his intelligence.
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With that said, current Venom is pretty tough.
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Last i remember seeing Carnage, he got taken to orbit & ripped in 2 by Sentry. (Which he still survived btw)
Levels a forest with the sheer pressure of his chakra when he goes Four Tails
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sends a large wave of snakes flying with a shockwave from the wave of his hand
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Chakra arms
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the chakra burns on contact
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doubling to hit Orochimaru cutting him in half which he only survives due to his regen
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Charging the Tailed Beast Bomb
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Firing it pt 1
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notice the size of the Rashoumon Gates
“Levels a forest with the sheer pressure of his chakra when he goes Four Tails”
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He doesn’t level anywhere near the entire forest.
He makes a small crater (couple of meters in radius at most).
Unless the anime is hideously inaccurate.
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“the chakra burns on contact”
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Pretty sure Venom’s more durable than Orochimaru.
Also, isn’t Orochimarus snake scales thingy really prone to shredding & burns? He actually seems less durable than a normal human when he does that stuff.
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“Charging the Tailed Beast Bomb”
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^ took about 5-10 minutes in the anime
“took about 5-10 minutes in the anime”
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Yeah but going super saiyan takes like a week in the anime too. Anime time frames are not really great compared to manga because they need to pad shit.
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How many Saiyans does it take to changea lightbulb
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ONE, but it takes 3 episodes
Firing the TBB pt 2
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Orochimaru’s sword of Kusanagi couldn’t pierce him
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Question would we be able to scale up feats from Naruto’s previous uses of lesser tailed forms? Or at least would the feats be relative to a degree on destructive capacity?
@Ragnorke
according to Kabuto only a few minutes transpired from three tailed Naruto’s launching away of Orochimaru to the no selling of Orochimaru’s sword
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and as LadyRamkin said anime’s are really bad about padding things out. There’s a reason I chose to go with the manga over it.
Jiraiya was nearly killed by Four Tailed Naruto
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“Yeah but going super saiyan takes like a week in the anime too. Anime time frames are not really great compared to manga because they need to pad shit.”
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Nonetheless, it needs to be charged, and aimed.
You put those 2 things together… Against enemies that can keep up with spiderman… And it means you’re going to miss.
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“Orochimaru’s sword of Kusanagi couldn’t pierce him”
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What feats does that sword have?
And for the record, i remember it causing a small crack in Narutos skin.
Again, not sure how accurate the anime is supposed to be.
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“Question would we be able to scale up feats from Naruto’s previous uses of lesser tailed forms?”
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Feel free to scale them. I don’t see why not.
Here’s Carnage:
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unaffected by 2 missiles to the face,
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Unaffected by a watchtower to the face.
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Unaffected by automatic machine gun fire from an entire police squad.
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Venom tangoing with classic Hulk,
Not only taking direct punches, but also holding the Hulk down with his “symbiote web”
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Takes a punch from Spiderman without flinching
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Tangos with Ghost Rider, the dude that ripped Mephistos heart out
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Speedblitzing Spiderman,
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Can turn invisible
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Takes hits from Juggs
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“And for the record, i remember it causing a small crack in Narutos skin.
Again, not sure how accurate the anime is supposed to be.”
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there’s no crack in the manga.
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And building sized blasts are hard to dodge.
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One Tailed Naruto creates a large trench with a swing
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When Naruto went 3 Tails Sai described the air/pressure wave coming off him as hurting
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and was causing damage to the bridge
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chakra shockwave
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blast caused by 3 Tailed Naruto
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Carnage and venom both have a form of spider sense…. right???? or was it that they dont trigger spider sense…. or both?
“And building sized blasts are hard to dodge.”
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Not for people that move at Mach 2, have precog, and can swing around with web.
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Also, i still don’t see why we’re assuming that would kill either Carnage or Venom to begin with.
They’ve tanked building busting explosions without flinching.
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“blast caused by 3 Tailed Naruto”
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Seems the size of a few trees… Honestly not too impressive.
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How fast is Naruto at this stage of the series?
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“Carnage and venom both have a form of spider sense…. right???? or was it that they dont trigger spider sense…. or both?”
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Venom has a spidersense for sure. The symbiote “learnt” it after being bonded to Peter.
I can’t say for sure regarding Carnage.
So, Cosmic Carnage? As in Carnage with the Power Cosmic? Yea, I think Carnage solos.
“Last i remember seeing Carnage, he got taken to orbit & ripped in 2 by Sentry. (Which he still survived btw)”
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He has cuased some trouble for ironman iirc. And more recently fought Nova, the new one.
“And more recently fought Nova, the new one.”
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Can you post it?
Considering that dude pulled Kluh into Orbit… Who was MEANT to be stronger than Hulk. (but all of his showings are meh)
@Ragnorke
it mostly consisted of the powers barely working Nova owning Carnage when it was working the symbiote making a point of trying to steal the helmet when it wasn’t, and after using a siren concert and another sound source to hurt the Symbiote tied him up where Carnage….admitted he only did this so he could kill Nova and no one would remember he was ever nice.
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As for Naruto’s speed solidly supersonic, not sure exactly to what degree but pretty much every ninja is at least low end supersonic or higher by this stage.
“Can you post it?”
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Wasn’t much of a fight really. Basically what Jake said.
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Still saying Cosmic Carnage solos.
I’m just curious but was that only based on the image? (the note I mean) because it wouldn’t be the first time an image was selected more because it looked good than relevance to incarnation..or actual character involved…
how exactly are carnage and venom going to put down the four tails?
@Jake
“As for Naruto’s speed solidly supersonic, ”
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So he’s a bit faster than Carnage/Venom.
But does he have as much mobility in his 4 tails form? he seems pretty static throughout his showing.
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@CH1
“Still saying Cosmic Carnage solos.”
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OP hasn’t said Cosmic Carnage. I don’t see why we should assume that.
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@Brosky
“how exactly are carnage and venom going to put down the four tails?”
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How exactly is four tails going to put down Venom/Carnage?
They’ve been unscratched from bigger hits than anything 4 tails has dished out, aside from maybe the Chakra Canon thing.. Which they would easily dodge.
And even if they do get “killed”, the symbiote keeps them alive and simply regenerates.
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Naruto on the other hand is causing himself constant harm in the 4 tails form, and is losing Blood & Chakra if i’m not mistaken.
If this is to be a fight of endurace, Naruto will not win.
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Also, how durable is he…? I know he tanked Orochimarus sword, but what other feats does that sword have?
Venom has taken on almost every Earth based Brick and put up a good fight.
“from bigger hits than anything 4 tails has dished out”
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Except when the Carnage Symbiote seemed to have a serious aversion to every energy attack Nova used. seems their energy weapon durability is lower than anything else.
“Except when the Carnage Symbiote seemed to have a serious aversion to every energy attack Nova used. seems their energy weapon durability is lower than anything else.”
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I honestly don’t know the context of that fight or how depowered Nova was at the time…
But… Under normal circumstances… Nova >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any incarnation of Naruto.